[00:00] <crimsun> asac: RE: 245122, both libnspr4 and libnss3 have epochs, so you'll need to adjust the versioned C+R
[02:00] <ScottK> We had discussed getting the patch in mozilla Bug 440840 in after mozilla had approved it.  They have now.
[02:01] <ScottK> asac: ^^^
[02:01]  * nxvl waves
[02:07] <ogra> ScottK, what did the libflashsupport package in backports contain ? it should have only been a transitional package (if flash 10 even has it as dependency which i dont think and which shouldnt be)
[02:10] <ogra> (it shouldnt be installed alongside flash10 )
[02:29] <crimsun> ogra: it wasn't transitional; it contains a conflicts with hardy's flashplugin-nonfree to force being removed with Flash 10 betas
[10:45] <asac> crimsun: indeed. how could i have missed that :(
[10:48] <Bubulle> hello, is that a good place to discuss the proposed-updates branch of Ubuntu?
[10:50] <Bubulle> A new firefox package was pushed to Hardy proposed-updates last night. Unfortunately, I discovered it removed french localized firefox3 without notice. Updates should not remove components unless it is replaced by very same fonctionnality.
[10:51] <laga> Bubulle: i suggest you look at the changelog of that firefox. there should be a bug report number in there for the last upload. go to that bug report and post a comment there
[10:51] <asac> Bubulle: you shouldn thave run dist-upgrade
[10:52] <asac> err, sorry. which version does your language-pack-XX have?
[10:53] <Bubulle> just regular update pulled it from proposed-updates. I now I did enable the proposed branch to test new versions without jumping to the ubuntu devel branch. I just like to make it know that, sometimes it can break things :)
[10:54] <Bubulle> language-pack-fr 1:8.04+20080527
[10:55] <asac> too bad
[10:55] <asac> Bubulle: i thought the language pack bump was done long time ago
[10:55] <asac> Bubulle: get your lang pack from https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-langpack/+archive
[10:56] <asac> ffox obviously will have to wait for that getting uploade
[10:56] <Bubulle> The firefox upgrade that pulled out french localization is 3.01+build1+nobinonly-Ubuntu0.8.04.1
[10:56] <asac> i am aware of that
[10:56] <asac> thats all ok. its just that the langpacks were forgotten to be uploaded
[10:56]  * wgrant would like to point out that -proposed is permitted to break things - that's the point.
[10:57] <asac> right.
[10:57]  * Bubulle agree
[10:57] <asac> well. at least temporarily ;)
[10:58] <asac> ArneGoetje: can you please get the langpacks updates in as soon as possible?
[10:59] <Bubulle> I know about the proposed-updates risks of breaking things. I know I may help with feedback on purose as well :)
[11:04] <asac> Bubulle: thats fine. thanks for the update
[11:04] <asac> if you want to get lang packs now use the langpack PPA i posted above
[11:06] <Bubulle> asac, just did it. As it is installed outside of repos, will it update next time?
[11:08] <asac> Bubulle: should work.
[11:08] <Bubulle> got version 20080708, and should I upgrade language-pack-xx-base to match?
[11:09] <asac> Bubulle: shouldnt hurt
[11:10] <Bubulle> Got back french locale on my Firefox. Many thanks for the tip.
[12:25] <emgent> heya
[18:40] <Rocket2DMn> question for you all, i'm triaging bug 248163 but before i go through and mark it as triaged/critical, i need to know that i'm not missing something very obvious
[18:40] <Rocket2DMn> has this been intentionally removed?  if so, what is its replacement?
[18:41]  * ScottK-laptop has a hard time imagining a missing menu item being critical regardless.
[18:41] <Rocket2DMn> i understand, but it won't load from terminal either, running network-admin doesnt work
[18:42] <ScottK-laptop> Then at the very least the bug needs a better title.
[18:42] <Rocket2DMn> so there is only the applet for configuring the network
[18:42] <Rocket2DMn> i agree, i didnt file the bug report though
[18:42] <nxvl> hi
[18:42] <nxvl> is there any build admin here?
[18:42]  * ScottK-laptop is a Kubuntu user/dev so has no actual opinion on Gnome problems.
[18:45] <Rocket2DMn> i guess i can mark it as High importance if you think Critical is too much.  Having network control seems critical to me though, but you're the devs in here
[18:46] <Rocket2DMn> can somebody please help me confirm that this is actually a bug and wasn't done on purpose?  it just seems a rather large problem to be an accident
[18:47] <ScottK-laptop> There is still a way to do it, right (via the applet)?
[18:49] <Rocket2DMn> nm-applet is still there
[18:50] <ScottK-laptop> I'd say High at most since there's still A way to do it.
[18:50] <Rocket2DMn> alright, Triaged/High it is
[18:52] <Rocket2DMn> ok thanks ScottK , it is done
[19:09] <hunger> Could somebody please look into getting the fix from https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/cmake/+bug/239451 into intrepid?
[19:09] <hunger> Thanks!
[19:25] <nxvl> pitti: around?
[19:26] <nxvl> pitti: we have a little doubt in pbuilder's FTBFS issue
[19:26] <nxvl> pitti: and you make help
[19:26] <nxvl> geser and i have investigated on the source of the problem
[19:27] <nxvl> and it's that texlive-xetex (main) depends on dvipdfmx (universe) which make it fail to build
[19:27] <nxvl> also i have researched
[19:27] <nxvl> and the why of this dependency is described here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430373
[19:28] <nxvl> so i think moving to recommends will be enought for fixing the issue, but also a MIR may be what it's needed
[19:28] <nxvl> pitti: what do you think?
[19:29] <ScottK-laptop> nxvl: If you move it to recommends, it still needs a MIR.
[19:30] <nxvl> i hate the install-recommends-by-default change
[19:30] <nxvl> it such a PITA
[19:35] <nxvl> it will need a MIR for tetex-base too
[19:35] <geser> isn't tetex gone?
[19:36] <geser> nxvl: if I looked correctly all (build-)dependencies are already in main
[19:37] <nxvl> geser: i'm talking about dvipdfmx dependencies
[19:38] <geser> nxvl: me too
[19:38] <jcristau> nxvl: texlive-base-bin is in main
[19:41]  * nxvl rechecks
[19:42] <nxvl> mm weird, now it says it is
[19:43] <nxvl> ok, so we just need a MIR for dvipdfmx
[19:43]  * nxvl starts writing
[19:43] <geser> thanks
[19:49] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: where is the MIR writing doc?
[19:49] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: did you have it on hand?
[19:49] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.
[19:49]  * nxvl HUGS ScottK-laptop 
[19:50] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: can you give me the link please :D
[19:50] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.  Was getting.
[19:50] <geser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess
[19:50]  * ScottK-laptop hands nxvl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess
[19:50] <ScottK-laptop> ;-)
[19:50] <nxvl> :D
[19:51] <nxvl> geser: thank you!
[19:51] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: you too!
[19:52] <ScottK-laptop> nxvl: After you get that one done, please do some on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain
[19:54] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: yes, it's on my ToDo
[19:55] <nxvl> ScottK-laptop: and about to reach the top
[19:55] <ScottK-laptop> Great.
[20:17] <pitti> nxvl: dvipdfmx appears in component-mismatches; right, it just needs an MIR
[20:19]  * ScottK-laptop waves at pitti.
[20:19] <nxvl> pitti: :D
[20:19] <nxvl> pitti: thank you
[20:29] <pitti> hey ScottK, greetings from London
[20:31] <stgraber> hey pitti, how's London ?
[20:44] <pitti> stgraber: sunny, surprisingly :)
[20:44] <pitti> it was raining heavily in Dresden when I left
[20:44] <ScottK-laptop> Doesn't it always rain in Dresden?
[20:44] <pitti> now I'm VOIPing a bit and catch up with some mail
[20:45] <pitti> ScottK-laptop: no, that was London :)
[20:45] <ScottK-laptop> See you later.
[20:46] <stgraber> pitti: also raining here so I wondered if London would then be in some kind of storm :) As they get worse weather most of the time.
[20:51] <hunger> pitti: Could you sync cmake from debian/unstable? The ubuntu deb is missing a rather important binary (ccmake) which is in the debian package.
[20:52] <hunger> pitti: See bug #239451
[21:07] <pitti> hunger: that cmake is in intrepid, so the bug should be fixed?
[21:07]  * pitti checks
[21:10] <pitti> ah, it's not, pending in Debian
[21:10] <pitti> hunger: so we should sync when it's fixed in Debian
[21:10]  * pitti -> off, cu tomorrow
[21:16] <hunger> pitti: Just got the debian sources from cmake 2.6.0-4 and build them: The generated deb does contain ccmake.
[21:16] <hunger> pitti: That is why I suggested syncing it.
[21:18] <hunger> pitti: It does not contain cmake-gui... but that is a different matter;-)
[21:29] <ScottK> hunger: The bug is still marked pending in Debian, not fixed.
[21:30]  * hunger checks the bugtracker.
[21:31] <hunger> ScottK: I do have the deb installed and I definitely have ccmake!
[21:31] <ScottK> Odd.
[21:31] <hunger> ScottK: With "the deb" I am referring to the debian sources version 2.6.0-4.
[21:31]  * ScottK just checked the bug tracker.
[21:33] <hunger> ScottK: Well, the debian bugtracker says that the source builds do work fine... seems to be a problem with the buildsystem?
[21:33] <ScottK> Note that 2.6.0-4 was uploaded to Debian before that bug was filed.
[21:34] <ScottK> And debian/changelog in -4 has nothging to do with it.
[21:34] <hunger> ScottK: Seems like the dependencies are broken... My ccmake is linked against libncurses while the build-dep is libncursesw...
[21:35] <hunger> I guess I just happen to have some working ncurses around when doing debuild:-)
[21:35] <ScottK> This is mentioned in that bug too. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481392#15
[21:36]  * hunger grumbles that the debian maintainer is not moving... last entry in that bug is may 24th.
[21:36] <hunger> cmake is essential for kde4 work:-(
[21:48] <Nafallo> meeh
[21:48] <Nafallo> I read coke rather than cmake :-P
[21:48]  * laga hands Nafallo some pepsi
[21:48]  * Nafallo gives the pepsi backs to laga and asks for some coke instead
[21:48] <Nafallo> :-)
[21:50] <cody-somerville> Nafallo, a coke or some coke? : P
[21:51] <laga> some coke, of course. 330ml is a common serving size here
[21:53] <cody-somerville> laga, odd, they measure it in grams here :P lol
[21:54] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: are there a difference? :-)
[21:54] <Nafallo> dooh
[21:54]  * cody-somerville fails.
[21:54] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: some cans of coke ;-)
[21:54] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: http://www.kitti.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/failed-please-die.jpg ? ;-)
[21:55] <cody-somerville> lol
[21:55] <Nafallo> I need to print that one in A4 or something and put up on some wall somewhere :-)
[21:55] <cody-somerville> In other news, I think you should see this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4
[21:56] <johanbr> Reminds me of the time I was standing in the soft drink aisle at Safeway and my friend proudly proclaimed "I'm a coke addict." :)
[21:56]  * Nafallo clives
[22:02] <Nafallo> lol. funny add :-P
[22:02] <Nafallo> ad even
[22:13] <cody-somerville> Nafallo, This one impressed me: http://youtube.com/watch?v=PLHjT5-XM9o
[22:13] <cody-somerville> Nafallo, There seems to be a number of nice linux commercials/ads on youtube.
[22:14] <Nafallo> I can imagine :-)
[22:17] <Nafallo> wow. that one is awesome.
[22:17] <Nafallo> I need to facebook that one.
[22:18] <cody-somerville> :)
[22:37] <__stress___> ﻿I ﻿ accidentally deleted some of my /home/"user" config files and now when I type "sudo any_command" and "tab" the command so that it can be auto-completed it does not complete....otherwise when I just type the comand and tab it, it auto-copletes...what can I do?