[02:10] <cp__> I want to setup a diskless wireless system and it appears it is possible booting with a USB key or CD.  What I haven't figured out is can I get the wireless encryption to work without too much trouble.  I have a PCI device which uses ath_pci.  Does the Mythbuntu build client image include support for WPA and entering the encryption key?
[02:22] <Frans-Willem> cp_: From what I looked at, it's rather difficult getting a wireless diskless setup working, it's probably best to just boot it using the LiveC
[02:22] <Frans-Willem> CD
[02:24] <MythbuntuGuest29> hello
[02:25] <red6> after the last round of updates my remote stopped working, any pointers?
[03:21] <harmony3264> hi, i have 3 machines:  all mythbuntu 8.04
[03:21] <harmony3264> 1) master backend / frontend with hvr950 tuner
[03:21] <harmony3264> 2) secondary backend / frontend with pchdtv5500 tuner
[03:21] <harmony3264> 3) a laptop that is just a frontend.
[03:21] <harmony3264> master works fine as standalone
[03:21] <harmony3264> the other backend's tuner seems to work during channel scan but not otherwise.
[03:21] <harmony3264> both remote frontends can browse the masters recorded shows,
[03:22] <harmony3264> even seeing the full-motion preview but when i try to watch anything,
[03:22] <harmony3264> or watch live tv, the frontend either crashes (laptop)
[03:22] <harmony3264> or just returns to the menu after a brief pause.
[03:22] <harmony3264> is this a common problem?
[03:22] <harmony3264> how can i force the use of the pchdtv5500?
[03:22] <harmony3264> some log excerpts at:
[03:22] <harmony3264> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26990/
[03:22] <harmony3264> thanks.
[03:45] <obiter> can somebody help a setup problem?
[03:47] <obiter> I have set up frontend and back end, and in the status menu I still get 'tuner1' unavailable, and 'tuner2 unavailable', and 'no guide data available'
[03:52] <harmony3264> obiter:  i'm here asking a similar question
[03:52] <harmony3264> so i'm not sure i can help but
[03:52] <harmony3264> did you set up a "source" for guide data in mythtv-setup?
[03:53] <obiter> yeah I think so
[03:53] <harmony3264> then you have to connect that "source" to a tuner.
[03:54] <obiter> its saying 'tuner unavailable' though
[03:55] <obiter> I don't know how to be sure the tuner is installed correctly
[03:55] <harmony3264> you can try a totally different app, like tvtime
[03:55] <obiter> I think the driver comes with ubuntu, it's a dvico fusion card
[03:56] <harmony3264> i have two other tuners and for each i had to build and/or install a kernel module.
[03:57] <harmony3264> but i don't ahve any experience with your tuner.
[03:57] <obiter> but I can't find either how to check that basic fact, and if it is automatically installed, how to check that its detected properly
[03:59] <obiter> tvtime doesn't appear to support dvico fusion cards
[03:59] <harmony3264> i think you need to search for what kernel module goes with your tuner.
[03:59] <harmony3264> then you can use lsmod to see if it's loaded,
[03:59] <harmony3264> or modprobe to load it.
[03:59] <obiter> I'm very inexperienced with all this
[03:59] <obiter> how would I search for what kernal module goes with my card?
[04:00] <harmony3264> i'm about a month ahead of you:)
[04:01] <harmony3264> i'd search google for mythbuntu OR mythtv and whatever keywords you think would narrow in on your tuner.
[04:02] <obiter> yeah I've been at it over the last few days
[04:02] <obiter> its kind of hard to follow, and there's not much specific information
[04:02] <obiter> I thought dvico was pretty common
[04:04] <harmony3264> they may be common but i've no experience.
[04:04] <harmony3264> looks like they have a few models, which is your's?
[04:04] <obiter> actually I'm not sure ... its dual <something> though
[04:05] <obiter> if it autodetects, that's not an issue
[04:06] <obiter> isn't there some equivalent to the windows device manager dialog?
[04:06] <harmony3264> what os are you using, mythbuntu 8.04 (hardy)?
[04:06] <obiter> yes
[04:07] <obiter> well, the one from the 8.04 synaptic packet manager
[04:07] <obiter> package
[04:08] <harmony3264> so that's xfce or xubuntu if you want to search for stuff about it.
[04:08] <harmony3264> what, i lost you.
[04:08] <harmony3264> you installed ubuntu then added myth?
[04:08] <obiter> I just found it in the package manager that comes with ubuntu
[04:09] <obiter> so I guess 'yes' :-)
[04:09] <obiter> it seems like a lot of people are getting it installed without these issues
[04:09] <harmony3264> so i think you have gnome which does have something like windoze divice manager, i think, i'll go look if you want...
[04:09] <obiter> yeah gnome
[04:10] <obiter> its got something for third party drivers
[04:10] <obiter> proprietary ones
[04:10] <obiter> but I can't find a way to see the ordinary ones
[04:10] <harmony3264> well, my advice is NOT to add myth as you have, but to start with mythbuntu instead of ubuntu, because it sets a lot up for you.
[04:10] <harmony3264> but you still have to work out the tuner, even then.
[04:11] <hads> It will work in installing from Ubuntu fine.
[04:11] <obiter> does mythbuntu have all the regular ubuntu stuff as well?
[04:12] <obiter> do you know how to determine if the tvtuner card has installed hads?
[04:12] <hads> It's just a different installation, the same package repositories therefore the same software.
[04:12] <harmony3264> try system->preferences->hardwareInformation
[04:12] <hads> What do you mean by "installed"?
[04:13] <hads> You could also try lspci or lshw
[04:13] <harmony3264> hi hads, thanks.
[04:14] <obiter> well its physically there, but I don't know how to determine if the drivers are loaded for it
[04:14] <obiter> I think dvico fusion drivers come with ubuntu, but I can't find information about it except referenences in forums
[04:14] <hads> If you've got a video device (/dev/video0) then something is loaded.
[04:15] <harmony3264> obiter:  this looks relavent:
[04:15] <harmony3264> http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/FAQBeforeBuy.aspx?act=RD&id=26&pg=0&CATID=8&SCATID=37
[04:15] <obiter> I don't have that menu option harmony, it probably is a package
[04:16] <harmony3264> yeah, i may have added it.
[04:16] <harmony3264> try lspci in the terminal as hads suggested, if it's a pci tuner.
[04:17] <harmony3264> or lsusb if it's usb.
[04:17] <obiter> no such file in dev hads
[04:17] <obiter> I guess that's bad
[04:18] <Nostahl> hey all what should the settings be for dvd player command
[04:18] <Nostahl> it dosnt work when i make it the same as the default player
[04:18] <Nostahl> so i changed the %s to %d and then i get what looks like scrambled tv but it dosnt have audio or movement
[04:18] <Nostahl> any idea's
[04:20] <harmony3264> obiter:  that package is hal-device-manager
[04:22] <obiter> ok ... I've been searching the packagae manager :)
[04:23] <obiter> I'm installing various things
[04:27] <obiter> installed that .. now trying to find it
[04:28] <Nostahl> where are settings for internal player
[04:28] <Nostahl> it plays the movie but no audio
[04:28] <Nostahl> for playing dvd's etc
[04:29] <Nostahl> i get audio from playing movies that are on the hd already..
[04:34] <obiter> aaah ... I've got 'dvico corporation unknown device'
[04:36] <obiter> in 'pci devices'
[04:37] <harmony3264> obiter:  bingo!  is it one of their current tuners?:
[04:37] <harmony3264> http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/
[04:38] <obiter> its a year or so old
[04:41] <Nostahl> why do i get no audio with Internal player
[04:43] <obiter> its a dvb T dual express
[04:43] <crxdvr> on a new install, I get "No UPnP Backends Found"  then it takes me to database config. I have not come up with the info to make it happy. when I get to the finish of db setup, I return to "No UPnP......   and it starts over again
[04:44] <Nostahl> anyone know why internal player has sound issues?
[04:44] <crxdvr> first time using mythbuntu btw
[04:44] <harmony3264> obiter:  good, now see if mythtv.org has a page about getting its driver installed.
[04:46] <harmony3264> it's somewhere under this area:
[04:46] <harmony3264> http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1
[04:46] <obiter> yeah I'm there
[04:57] <obiter> hmm ... my dvico fusion is not shown
[04:57] <obiter> they have hdtv5
[05:01] <harmony3264> yeah, i don't see your exact card there either.  this seems to be the closest:
[05:01] <harmony3264> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#DViCO
[05:01] <harmony3264> but search the net for "dvico fusion dual express mythtv"
[05:01] <harmony3264> found:
[05:01] <harmony3264> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/944948.html
[05:01] <harmony3264> the 3rd post there looks like it might help.
[05:05] <obiter> it looks like it
[05:05] <obiter> it seems pretty intimidating though
[05:05] <obiter> cloning
[05:07] <crxdvr> I am really lost here, I have been reading forums, and googling. all I can figure is to wipe and reinstall. I hate thinking this. I have use linux too many years to apply the microsoft fix and re-install. I want to know what is broken whether I broke it or not
[05:08] <obiter> I sympathise crxdvr, but I'm pretty much out of my depth
[05:09] <harmony3264> obiter:  i don't know about those steps,
[05:09] <harmony3264> but i had to clone a source tree to build the kernel module for my usb tuner,
[05:09] <harmony3264> and it was no big deal, i just followed the steps exactly.
[05:09] <harmony3264> but beware if ubuntu wants to upgrade your kernel
[05:09] <harmony3264> becuase you may have to re-make your tuner module.
[05:10] <hads> crxdvr: Just disable UPnP that should work.
[05:10] <harmony3264> crxdvr:  me three!  there are often more experts here, might check back later.
[05:11] <obiter> that kind of thing terrifies me :-)
[05:12] <crxdvr> how do i disable upnp
[05:13] <hads> mythfrontend -d
[05:13] <hads> mythfrontend --help will tell you that.
[05:15] <harmony3264> obiter:  yes, well you have to understand what you're doing,
[05:15] <harmony3264> eg:  http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=175
[05:15] <crxdvr> mythfrontend -d  does the same thing trying to start a backend does.
[05:17] <crxdvr> hmmm some progress
[05:19] <obiter> heh ... I read that
[05:19] <obiter> its a bit scary
[05:22] <harmony3264> obiter:  i've never seen a intentionally malicious how-to
[05:22] <harmony3264> but, yeah, you've got to look up each command so you know...
[05:24] <obiter> all I really need is to receive broadcast
[05:24] <obiter> I don't care about all the extra features of mythtv
[05:26] <crxdvr> changed server entry to LOCALHOST, this changed the error to "cannot log into database" so I changed the user from mythtv to root  and got through the setup
[05:26] <crxdvr> but when I select watch tv I get nothing, it stays at the same menu
[05:27] <obiter> yeah that's what I get
[05:27] <obiter> its because it can't find my tv tuner card, I think
[05:28] <obiter> which I found out by looking in info on that same screen
[05:28] <crxdvr> it finds my card just fine
[05:28] <crxdvr> I can even scan the channels
[05:29] <crxdvr> in the setup
[05:29] <obiter> stop gloating :-)
[05:29] <crxdvr> by "scan the channels" I do not mean I ever get a picture
[05:30] <crxdvr> I refer to the populate channels, portion of setup.
[05:31] <crxdvr> I only have a hauppauge tuner card (it has a wintv sticker but is not detected as a pvr-*50, just as a V4L Analog capture card)
[05:34] <harmony3264> crxdvr:  i got a pvr250 working for a friend, it was pretty straightforward if i remember right.
[05:35] <harmony3264> her machine's still here if you want me to check anything on it for you.
[05:35] <crxdvr> yes but mine is apparently not a pvr-*50  as I stated above
[05:35] <harmony3264> sorry, i thought you said it wasn't detected as such.
[05:35] <crxdvr> I am looking through the frontendlog now
[05:36] <harmony3264> i think the backend manages the tuner so you might want to look at the backend log.
[05:36] <crxdvr> well that is what I said, I dont know what it is, i am not the orig owner. I got it w/o a box and no info
[05:37] <harmony3264> so it might be a pvr250?
[05:38] <crxdvr> or a 150
[05:39] <crxdvr> lspci does show it as a bt878 capture card
[05:40] <crxdvr> now the mythbackend log does state that perm is denied on a *.nuv file when watch TV is started
[05:41] <harmony3264> yeah, it seems like perm probs are very common during setup.
[05:46] <crxdvr> I am gonna do something very silly, I am going to make the dir in question a+rw  since it is only ~/.mythtv it wont eat the whole system if it is a bad bad idea, but I can try to see a different error at least
[05:50] <harmony3264> hads:  are you still around?
[05:50] <obiter> I wonder what the most trouble free hdtv card for mythbuntu is?
[05:51] <harmony3264> obiter:  i read it was the pchdtv5500 so i bought one,
[05:51] <harmony3264> and can't get it to do anything other than detect some channels during setup scan.
[05:51] <obiter> heh
[05:52] <harmony3264> it has official open source linux drivers (but no windows support).
[05:52] <obiter> I'd be happy to get one that was officially recommended for ubuntu
[05:53] <obiter> like I said before, I only to simple tv watching ... no streaming required, no recording, don't care about the remote control even
[05:53] <harmony3264> ubuntu doesn't really do much i think,
[05:53] <harmony3264> it's really myth support, or v4l, that's needed.
[05:54] <harmony3264> i think xine can do that.
[05:54] <harmony3264> or something like xinehd, or maybe mplayer?
[05:55] <harmony3264> or xawTv
[05:56] <hads> harmony3264: Yes?
[05:57] <hads> BTW permissions problems on mythbuntu seem to be commonly caused by putting the recordings directory inside your home directory.
[05:59] <harmony3264> hads:  yeah, that's exactly how i shot myself in the foot, my first time out.
[06:00] <harmony3264> hads:  could you glance at my logs?:
[06:00] <harmony3264> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26990/
[06:01] <crxdvr> well it's different
[06:01] <crxdvr> harmony3264: it seemsthat it does allow me to choose a pvr-*50 card
[06:02] <harmony3264> i think the 150 and 250 use the same driver.
[06:02] <crxdvr> and now it spends some time in the blank screen b4 returning to the menu
[06:03] <hads> harmony3264: Looks like your slave BE doesn't have the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ directory
[06:04] <hads> And yes the PVR150/250/350/500 all use the ivtv driver
[06:04] <crxdvr> I get alot of "invalid arguments" in mythbackend.log
[06:05] <harmony3264> hads:  thanks, but it is already there owner/group both mythtv.
[06:06] <crxdvr> I see "Not IVTV Driver?" in the log just after HW Tuner 1->1
[06:07] <crxdvr> so mythbuntu did not install an ivtv driver for my wintv card?
[06:08] <harmony3264> hads: it's empty, i want the recordings to go in ~/Data/mythtv/recordings,
[06:08] <harmony3264> which is also there, also owner/group mythtv, also empty.
[06:09] <hads> Then it looks like you're slave isn't setup properly as it's trying to use /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/
[06:11] <harmony3264> hads:  yeah, if you mean that frontend log line that starts with RingBuf,
[06:11] <harmony3264> is it trying to open the master recordings locally?
[06:11] <harmony3264> where is that in the setup?
[06:13] <hads> Not sure, I don't use slave backends here, in mythtv-setup somewhere.
[06:13] <crxdvr> I see the ivtv driver loaded, all looks good in dmesg
[06:14] <harmony3264> hads:  ok, thanks.
[06:18] <crxdvr> installing xawtv now
[06:19] <crxdvr> I wish xdtv was in buntu, it looked promising
[06:21] <crxdvr> kdetv is scanning channels and getting the vbi info too
[06:21] <crxdvr> dont know if it will give me a picture yet though
[06:22] <crxdvr> WOW a picture
[06:22] <crxdvr> no sound yet
[06:22] <harmony3264> but you're half way there!
[06:22] <crxdvr> at least I know know the mythtv issue is fixable
[06:32] <crxdvr> xawtx has a pic too
[06:32] <crxdvr> no sound still
[06:36] <crxdvr> well, I set arts to use alsa and restarted(grr I hate arts) I now have sound in kdetv, not in xawtv yet
[06:51] <crxdvr> ok now mythtv gives me sound
[06:52] <crxdvr> but no pic
[06:52] <crxdvr> I drop back to desktop
[06:52] <harmony3264> hah.  still, you're on the verge i think...
[06:55] <crxdvr> I cant get it to stop playing tv either
[06:55] <crxdvr> well tv-sound
[06:55] <harmony3264> what if you restart alsa?
[06:56] <crxdvr> I changed my card to v4l analog instead of pvr-*50
[06:56] <crxdvr> I will now change it back
[06:58] <crxdvr> nope, still returns to menu
[06:58] <crxdvr> I opened one of the apps that can use the card, then closed it, that killed the audio track
[06:59] <crxdvr> well I have an ati aiw in the box too. I will try pulling it tomorrow, it isnt supported in myth anyway
[06:59] <crxdvr> I bet it is confusing myth
[07:00] <crxdvr> though the other apps can see it
[07:00] <crxdvr> if not use it
[14:00] <aclose> i'm new to using Ubuntu (MythBuntu) with MythTv.
[14:00] <aclose> where are the myth directories?
[14:00] <aclose> tv, video, etc?
[14:00] <aclose> i'm used to them being under /myth
[14:00] <aclose> i'm guessing they're just located elsewhere in this distro..?
[14:24] <aclose72_> good morning
[14:24] <aclose72_> anybody home?
[14:54] <aclose72_> are recordings and videos typically stored in /var/lib/mythtv ?
[14:55] <darthanubis> yes
[15:06] <aclose72_> thx darthanubis :)
[15:06] <darthanubis> np
[15:06] <aclose72_> i'm seting up storage groups on a separate disk
[15:07] <darthanubis> I have too
[15:07] <aclose72_> should i mount that disk under /var/lib/mythtv as well?
[15:07] <darthanubis> first thing I do
[15:07] <darthanubis> I would not
[15:07] <darthanubis> I have my myth partition mounted to my /home/me/ partititon
[15:07] <aclose72_> there isn't much detail on the wiki regarding setting up storage groups
[15:07] <aclose72_> ok
[15:07] <darthanubis> its easy
[15:08] <aclose72_> you wouldn't happen to have a pointer to some docs, would you? :)
[15:08] <darthanubis> I give myth its own partiton so I don't have to work about the / being full ever
[15:08] <darthanubis> only the original mythtv wiki
[15:09] <aclose72_> ok, that's what i was afraid of :}
[15:09] <aclose72_> no worries
[15:09] <darthanubis> what do you need help with?
[15:09] <aclose72_> new machine, new distro, fresh install
[15:09] <darthanubis> Just follow the storage directions and your all set
[15:09] <darthanubis> ah
[15:09] <aclose72_> i'll give it a shot
[15:09] <aclose72_> thx
[15:09] <darthanubis> your adventurous
[15:10] <aclose72_> or stupid ;)
[15:10] <darthanubis> I'm woke and here. I'll help you the best I can
[15:10] <aclose72_> great, much appreciated
[15:10] <darthanubis> But the original Mythtv docs are best.
[15:10] <aclose72_> that's mainly where i've been looking
[15:10] <darthanubis> I just built a new box
[15:11] <darthanubis> and so this is a clean install I'm working on
[15:11] <aclose72_> yeah, i currently have a myth setup running KnoppMyth
[15:11] <aclose72_> have been pretty happy with it
[15:11] <aclose72_> but am moving to digital and HD
[15:11] <aclose72_> more RAM, lot's more processor
[15:11] <aclose72_> hopefully HDMI out
[15:16] <aclose72_> darthanubis, any particular reason you chose /home/me as your mount point for your storage?
[15:16] <aclose72_> would something like /media/storage1 be ok?
[15:16] <darthanubis> sure
[15:16] <darthanubis> its all up to you
[15:16] <darthanubis> I just found it easier to keep it close to me
[15:16] <darthanubis> ;)
[15:17] <aclose72_> i wasn't sure if there was a performance issue or something to do with mismounting...
[15:17] <aclose72_> ok
[15:17] <darthanubis> the mount point matters not
[15:17] <aclose72_> my system disk ( / ) is a 320GB drive and storage will be soley on a 500GB drive
[15:18] <aclose72_> so space shouldnt be an issue (immediately)
[15:18] <aclose72_> but just wasn't sure what would happen if the stroage disk didn't mount correctly
[15:20] <darthanubis> your fine
[15:20] <darthanubis> 500gb is plenty
[15:31] <aclose72_> yeah, my current setup has one disk at 300GB
[15:31] <aclose72_> but it's SD only
[15:48] <aclose72_> darthanubis, you wouldn't happen to have an HDHR, would you? :)
[15:49] <darthanubis> nope
[15:49] <aclose72_> following the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki gets me several channels after scanning.
[15:49] <aclose72_> but they don't allow me to actually record or watch tv
[15:49] <aclose72_> oh well.  i'll muddle through that one :)
[15:50] <darthanubis> don't use the "scan for channels"
[15:50] <darthanubis> use the "fetch channel lineup"
[15:50] <aclose72_> yeah, i'm using the scan built in to the HDHR
[15:50] <darthanubis> where you put in your schedules direct account info
[15:50] <darthanubis> use fetch instead
[15:51] <darthanubis> remove all channels you added
[15:51] <aclose72_> k, i'll give that a try
[15:51] <darthanubis> and fetch them instead
[16:00] <aclose72_> fetch doesn't seem to do anything
[16:10] <tafkaz_73> hi everyone. i get a "cannot mount volume" popup window everytime i insert a dvd
[16:10] <tafkaz_73> using latest mythtv in ubuntu-hardy (gnome)
[16:10] <tafkaz_73> i can klick ok on the message and the watch my dvd
[16:10] <aclose72_> have you used your dvd player before?
[16:10] <tafkaz_73> so the message is basically just unnecessary
[16:11] <tafkaz_73> sorry ?
[16:11] <aclose72_> just wondering whether or not you had configured your dvd player before or if this was the first time you were attempting to use it
[16:11] <tafkaz_73> but its odd because i have to get my keyboard to get rid of the mesasge
[16:12] <tafkaz_73> no i used it before
[16:12] <tafkaz_73> i have this problem just after i installed a fresh hardy
[16:12] <tafkaz_73> before i had hardy updated from gutsy without this prob
[16:13] <tafkaz_73> i just would like to know if i can get gnome not to give me this message anymore
[16:13] <aclose72_> i would assume so, but don't have an answer for you :)
[16:14] <tafkaz_73> too bad
[16:15] <aclose72_> any reason you're running gnome instead of something a little lighter weight?
[16:15] <aclose72_> just curious
[16:16] <tafkaz_73> dunno.....i guess its just cause i am used to it
[16:17] <tafkaz_73> starts pretty fast here
[16:17] <aclose72_> were you running gnome under gutsy?
[16:17] <tafkaz_73> i am not too much into xfce
[16:17] <tafkaz_73> yup
[16:17] <aclose72_> just wondering whether gnome is doing .. ok :)
[16:18] <tafkaz_73> i have installed mythbuntu on another machine (for a friend) and it worx ok
[16:18] <tafkaz_73> but i didnt find it that much faster
[16:18] <aclose72_> :) frustrating
[16:18] <aclose72_> i'm in the middle of a reinstall right now
[16:18] <aclose72_> first time didn't quite work out
[16:19] <aclose72_> not sure what i did wrong
[16:19] <tafkaz_73> first time mythtv install ?
[16:19] <aclose72_> not exactly :)
[16:19] <aclose72_> i've been running KnoppMyth on another box
[16:20] <aclose72_> decided to give MythBuntu a go since Ubuntu seems to be a great distro
[16:20] <aclose72_> my issues are more 'user error' than distro related i'm sure :)
[16:20] <tafkaz_73> i dont know....i think the 8.04 is a bit buggy
[16:20] <aclose72_> i'm not much of a linux guru ;)
[16:20] <aclose72_> i've heard a bit of that :)
[16:20] <tafkaz_73> i liked the combination of gutsy and myth much betrter
[16:21] <tafkaz_73> i switched to hardy to be able to install the weekly builds again...:-)
[16:22] <aclose72_> are you running Ubuntu with Myth installed?  or the MythBuntu distro?
[16:22] <tafkaz_73> first
[16:22] <aclose72_> which i guess is basically the same...
[16:22] <tafkaz_73> kind of
[16:22] <aclose72_> i haven't tried that route yet
[16:22] <tafkaz_73> i installed mythbuntu on that other machine....
[16:22] <aclose72_> still working through the preconfigured distros
[16:22] <tafkaz_73> didnt think it was much easier
[16:23] <aclose72_> not quite brave enough to get linux tweaked and then attempt Myth
[16:23] <aclose72_> someday :)
[16:23] <tafkaz_73> there's still lots of steps to take after an installation of mythbuntu to get everything working
[16:23] <tafkaz_73> dont think its much different
[16:23] <darthanubis> Hardy is no more "buggy" for me than anything else.
[16:24] <darthanubis> aclose72_, use the mythbuntu command center to setup things
[16:25] <tafkaz_73> darthanubis, are you saying everything can be setup from there ?
[16:25] <aclose72_> yeah, have been
[16:25] <aclose72_> it's pretty nice
[16:25] <darthanubis> yes
[16:25] <tafkaz_73> i dont think exactly everything can be done
[16:26] <aclose72_> no, but it's a pretty good start
[16:26] <darthanubis> it allows the backend to be setup
[16:26] <tafkaz_73> you are right there
[16:26] <darthanubis> anything not there is in the frontend obviuosly
[16:26] <darthanubis> I have to actually mention this?
[16:27] <aclose72_> darthanubis, i'm walking through the mythtv-setup right now
[16:27] <tafkaz_73> but when you try to get your imon running for example...
[16:27] <darthanubis> imon?
[16:27] <tafkaz_73> the lcd remote combination i had on my silverstone case
[16:28] <tafkaz_73> ron frazier helped me there
[16:28] <aclose72_> looking at the storage groups tab, is that where i'd list the mount points i set during the disk partitioning?
[16:28] <darthanubis> mcc took care of my remote effortlessly
[16:28] <tafkaz_73> never got that working from there...
[16:28] <tafkaz_73> but maybe my hardware was to exotic
[16:29] <darthanubis> aclose72_, yes
[16:29] <aclose72_> thx :)
[16:35] <aclose72_> well, here goes
[16:35] <aclose72_> rebooting :)
[17:24] <tafkaz_73> seems like i resolved the "cannot mount volume" issue by changing the appropriate fstab line
[17:24] <tafkaz_73> i now have /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom   auto user,noauto          0       0
[17:29] <tafkaz_73> no not really....as soon as i change the way mythfrontend should handle dvds the gnome message is there again
[17:29] <tafkaz_73> i can live with this now...but mybe its some mythtv bug
[18:22] <jimboprobs> Hi. I'm trying to get Mythbuntu running on a PAL TV. Myth GUI works fine but when I go to "watch TV" the screen rolls as if the freq or res is wrong. I have to restart X to get it back. It's reporting 60Hz in the configuration screens, which I thought should maybe be 50Hz, but there's no way of changing it at 60Hz is the only option in the drop downs.
[18:57] <aclose72_> i'm actually able to tune channels this time around :)
[18:58] <aclose72_> but there are a bunch of garbage music only channels that the HDHR picked up that crash the frontend
[18:58] <aclose72_> i'll see if i can get rid of them through mythweb
[18:59] <MythbuntuGuest98> any one else who have problems with lirc with it87 on the latest mythbuntu 8.04?
[19:01] <MythbuntuGuest98> i have a asus digimatrix the lirc modules loads and I can see raw code when testing the remote with irrecord
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest98> sorry I mean mode2
[19:04] <MythbuntuGuest98> with irw I see nothing at all...  and I'm using the provided lirc digimatrix conf file
[19:10] <aclose72_> hmm, i apparently don't have access to mysql through mythweb
[19:10] <aclose72_> i don't see anything in mythtv-setup that deals with mythweb
[19:10] <aclose72_> any idea where those settings would be?
[19:37] <aclose72_> when going through my initial install i set my mythweb user to mythweb
[19:38] <aclose72_> would that mean i need a mythweb user added to my db to actually use mythweb? :)
[19:38] <aclose72_> my mysql.txt file only shows the user mythtv
[19:39] <Trimble_Epic> hi!
[19:40] <aclose72_> hi
[19:40] <Trimble_Epic> :)
[19:40] <Trimble_Epic> I want to use VLC with my myth... for mythvideo.  I have some video files that won't play right, but vlc plays them fine on my windows box
[19:40] <MK> hey i think i have everything setup but when i click on "watch tv" nothing happens, screen flashes very quickly and resumes normal menu operation. are there any common problems like this i can check for?
[19:41] <Trimble_Epic> make sure your tv card is configured right
[19:41] <Trimble_Epic> i think it pops back that fast when i can't find the tv card
[19:42] <aclose72_> Trimble, i'm pretty sure you can configure VLC to be your player of choice for video
[19:42] <aclose72_> look under settings on the frontend
[19:42] <Trimble_Epic> i think so too, aclose72_ ...
[19:42] <aclose72_> MK, have you already set up your video sources and inputs?
[19:42] <Trimble_Epic> So, i'm reading the mythtv.org wiki, and it says vlc has a config file at #~/.vlc/vlcrc
[19:42] <aclose72_> and run mythfilldatabase
[19:42] <Trimble_Epic> but I can't find it
[19:43] <aclose72_> it's probably not there cause you haven't used/created it :)
[19:43] <Trimble_Epic> do i need to create it from scratch?  or should vlc create it?
[19:43] <aclose72_> if you try invoking VLS from the cli as mythtv it will probably add the .vlc file
[19:43] <aclose72_> i think vlc will create it the first time you use it
[19:44] <MK> aclose72_, I have gone through the video sources and inputs, not 100% sure they are correct but i believe so. i have run mythfilldatabase (asks after save) if that is correct
[19:44] <Trimble_Epic> hmm.. i'm using putty to log into my myth as my own user.. could the config file be created under the mythtv user?
[19:44] <Trimble_Epic> or does mythbuntu make a mythtv user?
[19:44] <Trimble_Epic> idont rmemeber
[19:45] <MK> aclose72_, I have video source using EIT
[19:45] <aclose72_> mythbuntu does make a mythtv user
[19:45] <Trimble_Epic> i can't speel either :P
[19:45] <aclose72_> :)
[19:45] <aclose72_> MK, i know absolutely nothing about EIT, sorry
[19:45] <Trimble_Epic> so, could the vlcrc file be in the mythtv user's home dir?
[19:45] <aclose72_> possbly
[19:45] <Trimble_Epic> i need to figure out how to find the mythtv user's home idr
[19:45] <Trimble_Epic> dir
[19:45] <aclose72_> but i'm guessing not until you actually use VLC
[19:45] <MK> aclose72_, I think it's just to use the real time channel listings instead of pulling them down from a website?
[19:45] <Trimble_Epic> i think i've run vlc on this box before
[19:46] <aclose72_> MK, XML data i believe
[19:46] <aclose72_> not quite sure where it comes from :)
[19:46] <MK> aclose72_, is there a way to manually run mythfilldatabase?
[19:46] <aclose72_> it's magic ;)
[19:46] <aclose72_> yeh > mythfilldatabase
[19:46] <MK> haha
[19:46] <aclose72_> if you're logged in as mythtv from the console you can just run 'mythfilledatabase'
[19:47] <MK> aclose72_, One more question, is there a place to setup where you watch tv? I have a wintv card input and want to watch tv on the lcd monitor attached to my ATI card. Is this default or is it trying to send output somewhere else?
[19:48] <aclose72_> what do you have connected to your mythbox now in terms of monitors/screens?
[19:48] <aclose72_> just he lcd?
[19:48] <MK> just lcd
[19:48] <aclose72_> k
[19:48] <aclose72_> everything should go there by default
[19:49] <MK> hmm
[19:49] <aclose72_> do you have mythfrontend up and running?
[19:49] <aclose72_> if you see a terminal or desktop, i'm guessing not :)
[19:49] <MK> i go in and out of the frontend, it is running atm
[19:49] <aclose72_> if you're in terminal right now you can type 'mythfrontend &'
[19:50] <aclose72_> ok
[19:50] <aclose72_> i guess i'm not following you then
[19:50] <aclose72_> you have mythfrontend running, what's the prob? :)
[19:51] <MK> well when i select "Watch tv" nothing happens
[19:51] <aclose72_> ok
[19:51] <aclose72_> did you already go through mythtv-setup?
[19:51] <aclose72_> you've added your capture cards
[19:51] <aclose72_> created video sources
[19:52] <aclose72_> added those video sources to your capture cards?
[19:52] <Trimble_Epic> vlc
[19:52] <Trimble_Epic> oops
[19:52] <MK> i believe so, i have a captured card entry and setup a video source
[19:52] <aclose72_> :)
[19:53] <aclose72_> did you assign the video source to the capture card you set up?
[19:53] <MK> default input for capture card is Television (shouldbe i believe), its got the bt878 driver...
[19:53] <MK> i created a video source called "cable"
[19:53] <MK> not much in that one
[19:53] <MK> hmm i didnt set an input i dont think
[19:54] <MK> for input "Television" there was no entry just selected video source to "cable" that souund right?
[19:54] <aclose72_> in the mythtv-setup screen there are five main sections that you'll see
[19:54] <MK> i think i found it, its scanning channels now
[19:54] <MK> adding channels
[19:54] <aclose72_> ok :)
[19:54] <aclose72_> sorry i'm not very clear
[19:54] <MK> signal strength 0% atm though
[19:55] <MK> i'll see what it does before spamming the channel get back to you :)
[19:58] <MK> aclose72_, Thanks for your help! I needed to scan channels :)
[19:58] <aclose72_> good, glad you're working :)
[20:00] <MK> aclose72_, quick question, how do i find the default keys to change channels with keyboard? Home shopping network is quite boring..
[20:00] <aclose72_> heh
[20:00] <aclose72_> that's all you get ;)
[20:00] <MK> haha
[20:00] <aclose72_> you should be able to use your up/down arrow keys to scroll through the channels
[20:00] <aclose72_> hit enter when you find a channel you want to actually switch to
[20:01] <MK> ok that worked, but i must have other issues it keeps locking up
[20:01] <aclose72_> it may be trying to tune a channel you don't really get
[20:01] <aclose72_> or that's encrypted, or just weak signal...
[20:02] <aclose72_> when you try going up or down do you see other chanel options?
[20:02] <darthanubis> aclose72_, how'd it go?
[20:03] <MK> aclose72_, I'm using a very very old wintv card, maybe it is to weak? I only get about 3 seconds before it locks up. I can change channels but then it locks up
[20:04] <MK> they are basic channels
[20:05] <aclose72_> sorry MK, connection issues
[20:06] <aclose72_> did you get my last statement
[20:06] <MK> aclose72_, np, no i did not
[20:06] <aclose72_> are you able to scroll through channels in the OSD before actually seleting one?
[20:07] <aclose72_> or does it immediately go to the next channel when you hit the up/down arrow?
[20:07] <aclose72_> somewhere in setup there is a way to view channels in the OSD instead of going directly to them
[20:08] <MK> ok let me look for that i think it goes on its own
[20:08] <aclose72_> if you're set up that way, you can look through the channels before actually jumping to one
[20:08] <MK> yea goes right away
[20:08] <aclose72_> i have a bunch of music channels tht show up but don't tune
[20:08] <aclose72_> they give me the same prob you're hving
[20:09] <aclose72_> once you've figured out what you can tune, you can clean up your list of channels through mythweb
[20:09] <aclose72_> which is what 'm attempting to do right now :)
[20:11] <MK> hmm looks like i had that on before, it is now changing when i up arrow
[20:12] <aclose72_> you may be able to get to those settings through the front end...
[20:12] <aclose72_> let me see if i can find it
[20:12] <MK> i found it, but it locks up both ways =/ hmmm
[20:13] <aclose72_> if you jump back into mythtv-setup there is a channel editor
[20:13] <aclose72_> you can look through that and see what channels you scanned
[20:13] <aclose72_> and how many there are
[20:14] <aclose72_> this might be more help than i've been:  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/EIT
[20:14] <MK> ooo lemme look
[20:26] <aclose72_> ok, i know mythweb is installed because i selected it as an option
[20:27] <aclose72_> and i can 'kinda' get to the mythweb page from a browser
[20:27] <aclose72_> but i'm not seeing an httpd.conf file in /etc/apache2
[20:28] <aclose72_> looking at the ubuntu help wiki, that's where it's supposed to be, isn't it? :)
[20:39] <aclose72_> find shows that i don't have an httpd.conf file on the filesystem
[20:39] <aclose72_> is that possible and i'm still able to have apache running?
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> aclose72_, thomas@ovit:~$ locate httpd.conf
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> /etc/phpmyadmin/lighttpd.conf
[20:45] <tgm4883_laptop> thomas@ovit:~$
[20:46] <aclose72_> thx
[20:46] <aclose72_> i haven't had any luck with locate
[20:46] <aclose72_> locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[20:47] <aclose72_> i'm guessing the db hasn't been populated since this is a new install
[20:50] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, maybe you should restate the original problem so I know what i'm dealing with
[20:50] <aclose72_> :)
[20:51] <aclose72_> in attempting to run mythweb i get a database access denied error message
[20:51] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[20:51] <aclose72_> looking at the mythtv wiki for setting up mythweb, i dn't see some of the files referenced
[20:51] <aclose72_> but it is installed and running, hence the msg
[20:52] <tgm4883_laptop> sec, I'm pretty sure I know the issue, just checking with someone who helped me fix it
[20:52] <aclose72_> You are most likely receiving this message because you
[20:52] <aclose72_> have failed to configure mythweb's database login info.
[20:52] <aclose72_> Please see INSTALL for instructions.
[20:54] <Trimble_Epic> i really s hould get around to fixing my myth's TV stuff.. right now i've been usingit ONLY for mythtvideo :(
[20:55] <aclose72_> i'm about 50/50
[20:55] <aclose72_> i do have a working mythbox that records some tv :)
[20:55] <aclose72_> mostly for my son
[20:56] <aclose72_> i get to watch a lot more Thomas the Train and Bob the Builder than i normally would ;)
[20:57] <Trimble_Epic> im no longer thrilled with mythvideo's brower system.. i have far too many videos online
[20:57] <tgm4883_laptop> aclose72_, ok, this is what you need to do
[20:57] <tgm4883_laptop> first, get your db passwork from mysql.txt
[20:58] <tgm4883_laptop> should be in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[20:58] <tgm4883_laptop> then do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common'
[20:58] <aclose72_> looks like it was encrypted, but i know what i thought i set it to :)
[20:58] <tgm4883_laptop> and stick that password in there
[20:59] <tgm4883_laptop> it's not encrypted
[20:59] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik it's not, it's just random
[20:59] <tgm4883_laptop> and the user should be mythtv
[20:59] <tgm4883_laptop> after than then sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[21:00] <aclose72_> cool, i'll give that a try
[21:00] <aclose72_> thanks tgm :)
[21:11] <aclose72> tgm, it's working now
[21:11] <aclose72> i installed updates and it must've reset whatever i screwed up :)
[21:11] <aclose72> thanks for your help
[21:14] <aclose72> anybody know where i go to find out what the xmltvid's are for my area?
[21:17] <tgm4883_laptop> schedules direct
[21:22] <aclose72> thx again tgm :)
[21:27] <aclose72> i guess it's a good thing i only get 10 channels :)
[21:35] <aclose72> sweet, i've actually got data now
[21:35] <aclose72> i'll have to save this config off somewhere for next time :)
[21:51] <acc-_> this is pretty much off-topic
[21:51] <acc-_> but when i get kicked off or dropped, how do i get back in with the same nick?
[21:52] <acc-_> for some reason the nick i registered with is still 'in use' on other servers
[21:52] <acc-_> and when i try to identify with NickServ i doesn't seem to matter
[21:59] <tgm4883_laptop> acc-_, I believe it is
[21:59] <tgm4883_laptop>  /nickserv ghost nick
[22:23] <Cr3ol> hello noob here... anyone point me in the right direction? new install and I want to be able to access my existing video files from myth. I already mounted the drive onto the backend/frontend server. Now what?
[22:25] <rhpot1991> Cr3ol: tell mythvideo to look at them
[22:26] <rhpot1991> setup>media settins>video settins>general
[22:31] <Cr3ol> sweet! that is what I was looking for. Thanks rhpot1991
[22:31] <rhpot1991> np
[22:31] <rhpot1991> you have to go into the video manager under setup and let it scan that directory before you can watch them too
[22:33] <Cr3ol> i was able to browse right into them and play but i'll have it scan anyway to see the difference thks again
[23:17] <Cr3ol> is there anything special that needs to be done to watch dvds? Mine have very poor quality
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop> Cr3ol, unfortunatly Mythbuntu (nor MythTV) can increase the quality of your DVD's.  In order to get better quality DVD's I suggest you peruse websites such as rottentomatoes.com in order to find a better quality DVD.  You may also find better quality DVD's look for DVD's that have won some sort of award.  Lastly if you are truely unhappy with the quality of DVD's you may find yourself writing letters to movie studios d
[23:34] <tgm4883_laptop> emanding that they don't waste money on DVD's such as Gigli and The Hottie and the nottie
[23:37] <teprrr> tgm4883_laptop, erm, can't you set some filters for mplayer/xine to use?
[23:38] <tgm4883_laptop> teprrr, there is no filter than I know of that will correct bad plots and poor acting
[23:38] <teprrr> tgm4883_laptop, I think I've seen even some article about that
[23:38] <teprrr> mhh.