[02:10] I want to setup a diskless wireless system and it appears it is possible booting with a USB key or CD. What I haven't figured out is can I get the wireless encryption to work without too much trouble. I have a PCI device which uses ath_pci. Does the Mythbuntu build client image include support for WPA and entering the encryption key? [02:22] cp_: From what I looked at, it's rather difficult getting a wireless diskless setup working, it's probably best to just boot it using the LiveC [02:22] CD [02:24] hello === MythbuntuGuest29 is now known as red6 [02:25] after the last round of updates my remote stopped working, any pointers? [03:21] hi, i have 3 machines: all mythbuntu 8.04 [03:21] 1) master backend / frontend with hvr950 tuner [03:21] 2) secondary backend / frontend with pchdtv5500 tuner [03:21] 3) a laptop that is just a frontend. [03:21] master works fine as standalone [03:21] the other backend's tuner seems to work during channel scan but not otherwise. [03:21] both remote frontends can browse the masters recorded shows, [03:22] even seeing the full-motion preview but when i try to watch anything, [03:22] or watch live tv, the frontend either crashes (laptop) [03:22] or just returns to the menu after a brief pause. [03:22] is this a common problem? [03:22] how can i force the use of the pchdtv5500? [03:22] some log excerpts at: [03:22] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26990/ [03:22] thanks. [03:45] can somebody help a setup problem? [03:47] I have set up frontend and back end, and in the status menu I still get 'tuner1' unavailable, and 'tuner2 unavailable', and 'no guide data available' [03:52] obiter: i'm here asking a similar question [03:52] so i'm not sure i can help but [03:52] did you set up a "source" for guide data in mythtv-setup? [03:53] yeah I think so [03:53] then you have to connect that "source" to a tuner. [03:54] its saying 'tuner unavailable' though [03:55] I don't know how to be sure the tuner is installed correctly [03:55] you can try a totally different app, like tvtime [03:55] I think the driver comes with ubuntu, it's a dvico fusion card [03:56] i have two other tuners and for each i had to build and/or install a kernel module. [03:57] but i don't ahve any experience with your tuner. [03:57] but I can't find either how to check that basic fact, and if it is automatically installed, how to check that its detected properly [03:59] tvtime doesn't appear to support dvico fusion cards [03:59] i think you need to search for what kernel module goes with your tuner. [03:59] then you can use lsmod to see if it's loaded, [03:59] or modprobe to load it. [03:59] I'm very inexperienced with all this [03:59] how would I search for what kernal module goes with my card? [04:00] i'm about a month ahead of you:) [04:01] i'd search google for mythbuntu OR mythtv and whatever keywords you think would narrow in on your tuner. [04:02] yeah I've been at it over the last few days [04:02] its kind of hard to follow, and there's not much specific information [04:02] I thought dvico was pretty common [04:04] they may be common but i've no experience. [04:04] looks like they have a few models, which is your's? [04:04] actually I'm not sure ... its dual though [04:05] if it autodetects, that's not an issue [04:06] isn't there some equivalent to the windows device manager dialog? [04:06] what os are you using, mythbuntu 8.04 (hardy)? [04:06] yes [04:07] well, the one from the 8.04 synaptic packet manager [04:07] package [04:08] so that's xfce or xubuntu if you want to search for stuff about it. [04:08] what, i lost you. [04:08] you installed ubuntu then added myth? [04:08] I just found it in the package manager that comes with ubuntu [04:09] so I guess 'yes' :-) [04:09] it seems like a lot of people are getting it installed without these issues [04:09] so i think you have gnome which does have something like windoze divice manager, i think, i'll go look if you want... [04:09] yeah gnome [04:10] its got something for third party drivers [04:10] proprietary ones [04:10] but I can't find a way to see the ordinary ones [04:10] well, my advice is NOT to add myth as you have, but to start with mythbuntu instead of ubuntu, because it sets a lot up for you. [04:10] but you still have to work out the tuner, even then. [04:11] It will work in installing from Ubuntu fine. [04:11] does mythbuntu have all the regular ubuntu stuff as well? [04:12] do you know how to determine if the tvtuner card has installed hads? [04:12] It's just a different installation, the same package repositories therefore the same software. [04:12] try system->preferences->hardwareInformation [04:12] What do you mean by "installed"? [04:13] You could also try lspci or lshw [04:13] hi hads, thanks. [04:14] well its physically there, but I don't know how to determine if the drivers are loaded for it [04:14] I think dvico fusion drivers come with ubuntu, but I can't find information about it except referenences in forums [04:14] If you've got a video device (/dev/video0) then something is loaded. [04:15] obiter: this looks relavent: [04:15] http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/FAQBeforeBuy.aspx?act=RD&id=26&pg=0&CATID=8&SCATID=37 [04:15] I don't have that menu option harmony, it probably is a package [04:16] yeah, i may have added it. [04:16] try lspci in the terminal as hads suggested, if it's a pci tuner. [04:17] or lsusb if it's usb. [04:17] no such file in dev hads [04:17] I guess that's bad [04:18] hey all what should the settings be for dvd player command [04:18] it dosnt work when i make it the same as the default player [04:18] so i changed the %s to %d and then i get what looks like scrambled tv but it dosnt have audio or movement [04:18] any idea's [04:20] obiter: that package is hal-device-manager [04:22] ok ... I've been searching the packagae manager :) [04:23] I'm installing various things [04:27] installed that .. now trying to find it [04:28] where are settings for internal player [04:28] it plays the movie but no audio [04:28] for playing dvd's etc [04:29] i get audio from playing movies that are on the hd already.. [04:34] aaah ... I've got 'dvico corporation unknown device' [04:36] in 'pci devices' [04:37] obiter: bingo! is it one of their current tuners?: [04:37] http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/ [04:38] its a year or so old [04:41] why do i get no audio with Internal player [04:43] its a dvb T dual express [04:43] on a new install, I get "No UPnP Backends Found" then it takes me to database config. I have not come up with the info to make it happy. when I get to the finish of db setup, I return to "No UPnP...... and it starts over again [04:44] anyone know why internal player has sound issues? [04:44] first time using mythbuntu btw [04:44] obiter: good, now see if mythtv.org has a page about getting its driver installed. [04:46] it's somewhere under this area: [04:46] http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1 [04:46] yeah I'm there [04:57] hmm ... my dvico fusion is not shown [04:57] they have hdtv5 [05:01] yeah, i don't see your exact card there either. this seems to be the closest: [05:01] http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#DViCO [05:01] but search the net for "dvico fusion dual express mythtv" [05:01] found: [05:01] http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/944948.html [05:01] the 3rd post there looks like it might help. [05:05] it looks like it [05:05] it seems pretty intimidating though [05:05] cloning [05:07] I am really lost here, I have been reading forums, and googling. all I can figure is to wipe and reinstall. I hate thinking this. I have use linux too many years to apply the microsoft fix and re-install. I want to know what is broken whether I broke it or not [05:08] I sympathise crxdvr, but I'm pretty much out of my depth [05:09] obiter: i don't know about those steps, [05:09] but i had to clone a source tree to build the kernel module for my usb tuner, [05:09] and it was no big deal, i just followed the steps exactly. [05:09] but beware if ubuntu wants to upgrade your kernel [05:09] becuase you may have to re-make your tuner module. [05:10] crxdvr: Just disable UPnP that should work. [05:10] crxdvr: me three! there are often more experts here, might check back later. [05:11] that kind of thing terrifies me :-) [05:12] how do i disable upnp [05:13] mythfrontend -d [05:13] mythfrontend --help will tell you that. [05:15] obiter: yes, well you have to understand what you're doing, [05:15] eg: http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=175 [05:15] mythfrontend -d does the same thing trying to start a backend does. [05:17] hmmm some progress [05:19] heh ... I read that [05:19] its a bit scary [05:22] obiter: i've never seen a intentionally malicious how-to [05:22] but, yeah, you've got to look up each command so you know... [05:24] all I really need is to receive broadcast [05:24] I don't care about all the extra features of mythtv [05:26] changed server entry to LOCALHOST, this changed the error to "cannot log into database" so I changed the user from mythtv to root and got through the setup [05:26] but when I select watch tv I get nothing, it stays at the same menu [05:27] yeah that's what I get [05:27] its because it can't find my tv tuner card, I think [05:28] which I found out by looking in info on that same screen [05:28] it finds my card just fine [05:28] I can even scan the channels [05:29] in the setup [05:29] stop gloating :-) [05:29] by "scan the channels" I do not mean I ever get a picture [05:30] I refer to the populate channels, portion of setup. [05:31] I only have a hauppauge tuner card (it has a wintv sticker but is not detected as a pvr-*50, just as a V4L Analog capture card) [05:34] crxdvr: i got a pvr250 working for a friend, it was pretty straightforward if i remember right. [05:35] her machine's still here if you want me to check anything on it for you. [05:35] yes but mine is apparently not a pvr-*50 as I stated above [05:35] sorry, i thought you said it wasn't detected as such. [05:35] I am looking through the frontendlog now [05:36] i think the backend manages the tuner so you might want to look at the backend log. [05:36] well that is what I said, I dont know what it is, i am not the orig owner. I got it w/o a box and no info [05:37] so it might be a pvr250? [05:38] or a 150 [05:39] lspci does show it as a bt878 capture card [05:40] now the mythbackend log does state that perm is denied on a *.nuv file when watch TV is started [05:41] yeah, it seems like perm probs are very common during setup. [05:46] I am gonna do something very silly, I am going to make the dir in question a+rw since it is only ~/.mythtv it wont eat the whole system if it is a bad bad idea, but I can try to see a different error at least [05:50] hads: are you still around? [05:50] I wonder what the most trouble free hdtv card for mythbuntu is? [05:51] obiter: i read it was the pchdtv5500 so i bought one, [05:51] and can't get it to do anything other than detect some channels during setup scan. [05:51] heh [05:52] it has official open source linux drivers (but no windows support). [05:52] I'd be happy to get one that was officially recommended for ubuntu [05:53] like I said before, I only to simple tv watching ... no streaming required, no recording, don't care about the remote control even [05:53] ubuntu doesn't really do much i think, [05:53] it's really myth support, or v4l, that's needed. [05:54] i think xine can do that. [05:54] or something like xinehd, or maybe mplayer? [05:55] or xawTv [05:56] harmony3264: Yes? [05:57] BTW permissions problems on mythbuntu seem to be commonly caused by putting the recordings directory inside your home directory. [05:59] hads: yeah, that's exactly how i shot myself in the foot, my first time out. [06:00] hads: could you glance at my logs?: [06:00] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26990/ [06:01] well it's different [06:01] harmony3264: it seemsthat it does allow me to choose a pvr-*50 card [06:02] i think the 150 and 250 use the same driver. [06:02] and now it spends some time in the blank screen b4 returning to the menu [06:03] harmony3264: Looks like your slave BE doesn't have the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ directory [06:04] And yes the PVR150/250/350/500 all use the ivtv driver [06:04] I get alot of "invalid arguments" in mythbackend.log [06:05] hads: thanks, but it is already there owner/group both mythtv. [06:06] I see "Not IVTV Driver?" in the log just after HW Tuner 1->1 [06:07] so mythbuntu did not install an ivtv driver for my wintv card? [06:08] hads: it's empty, i want the recordings to go in ~/Data/mythtv/recordings, [06:08] which is also there, also owner/group mythtv, also empty. [06:09] Then it looks like you're slave isn't setup properly as it's trying to use /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ [06:11] hads: yeah, if you mean that frontend log line that starts with RingBuf, [06:11] is it trying to open the master recordings locally? [06:11] where is that in the setup? [06:13] Not sure, I don't use slave backends here, in mythtv-setup somewhere. [06:13] I see the ivtv driver loaded, all looks good in dmesg [06:14] hads: ok, thanks. [06:18] installing xawtv now [06:19] I wish xdtv was in buntu, it looked promising [06:21] kdetv is scanning channels and getting the vbi info too [06:21] dont know if it will give me a picture yet though [06:22] WOW a picture [06:22] no sound yet [06:22] but you're half way there! [06:22] at least I know know the mythtv issue is fixable [06:32] xawtx has a pic too [06:32] no sound still [06:36] well, I set arts to use alsa and restarted(grr I hate arts) I now have sound in kdetv, not in xawtv yet [06:51] ok now mythtv gives me sound [06:52] but no pic [06:52] I drop back to desktop [06:52] hah. still, you're on the verge i think... [06:55] I cant get it to stop playing tv either [06:55] well tv-sound [06:55] what if you restart alsa? [06:56] I changed my card to v4l analog instead of pvr-*50 [06:56] I will now change it back [06:58] nope, still returns to menu [06:58] I opened one of the apps that can use the card, then closed it, that killed the audio track [06:59] well I have an ati aiw in the box too. I will try pulling it tomorrow, it isnt supported in myth anyway [06:59] I bet it is confusing myth [07:00] though the other apps can see it [07:00] if not use it [14:00] i'm new to using Ubuntu (MythBuntu) with MythTv. [14:00] where are the myth directories? [14:00] tv, video, etc? [14:00] i'm used to them being under /myth [14:00] i'm guessing they're just located elsewhere in this distro..? [14:24] good morning [14:24] anybody home? [14:54] are recordings and videos typically stored in /var/lib/mythtv ? [14:55] yes [15:06] thx darthanubis :) [15:06] np [15:06] i'm seting up storage groups on a separate disk [15:07] I have too [15:07] should i mount that disk under /var/lib/mythtv as well? [15:07] first thing I do [15:07] I would not [15:07] I have my myth partition mounted to my /home/me/ partititon [15:07] there isn't much detail on the wiki regarding setting up storage groups [15:07] ok [15:07] its easy [15:08] you wouldn't happen to have a pointer to some docs, would you? :) [15:08] I give myth its own partiton so I don't have to work about the / being full ever [15:08] only the original mythtv wiki [15:09] ok, that's what i was afraid of :} [15:09] no worries [15:09] what do you need help with? [15:09] new machine, new distro, fresh install [15:09] Just follow the storage directions and your all set [15:09] ah [15:09] i'll give it a shot [15:09] thx [15:09] your adventurous [15:10] or stupid ;) [15:10] I'm woke and here. I'll help you the best I can [15:10] great, much appreciated [15:10] But the original Mythtv docs are best. [15:10] that's mainly where i've been looking [15:10] I just built a new box [15:11] and so this is a clean install I'm working on [15:11] yeah, i currently have a myth setup running KnoppMyth [15:11] have been pretty happy with it [15:11] but am moving to digital and HD [15:11] more RAM, lot's more processor [15:11] hopefully HDMI out [15:16] darthanubis, any particular reason you chose /home/me as your mount point for your storage? [15:16] would something like /media/storage1 be ok? [15:16] sure [15:16] its all up to you [15:16] I just found it easier to keep it close to me [15:16] ;) [15:17] i wasn't sure if there was a performance issue or something to do with mismounting... [15:17] ok [15:17] the mount point matters not [15:17] my system disk ( / ) is a 320GB drive and storage will be soley on a 500GB drive [15:18] so space shouldnt be an issue (immediately) [15:18] but just wasn't sure what would happen if the stroage disk didn't mount correctly [15:20] your fine [15:20] 500gb is plenty [15:31] yeah, my current setup has one disk at 300GB [15:31] but it's SD only [15:48] darthanubis, you wouldn't happen to have an HDHR, would you? :) [15:49] nope [15:49] following the instructions on the Ubuntu wiki gets me several channels after scanning. [15:49] but they don't allow me to actually record or watch tv [15:49] oh well. i'll muddle through that one :) [15:50] don't use the "scan for channels" [15:50] use the "fetch channel lineup" [15:50] yeah, i'm using the scan built in to the HDHR [15:50] where you put in your schedules direct account info [15:50] use fetch instead [15:51] remove all channels you added [15:51] k, i'll give that a try [15:51] and fetch them instead [16:00] fetch doesn't seem to do anything [16:10] hi everyone. i get a "cannot mount volume" popup window everytime i insert a dvd [16:10] using latest mythtv in ubuntu-hardy (gnome) [16:10] i can klick ok on the message and the watch my dvd [16:10] have you used your dvd player before? [16:10] so the message is basically just unnecessary [16:11] sorry ? [16:11] just wondering whether or not you had configured your dvd player before or if this was the first time you were attempting to use it [16:11] but its odd because i have to get my keyboard to get rid of the mesasge [16:12] no i used it before [16:12] i have this problem just after i installed a fresh hardy [16:12] before i had hardy updated from gutsy without this prob [16:13] i just would like to know if i can get gnome not to give me this message anymore [16:13] i would assume so, but don't have an answer for you :) [16:14] too bad [16:15] any reason you're running gnome instead of something a little lighter weight? [16:15] just curious [16:16] dunno.....i guess its just cause i am used to it [16:17] starts pretty fast here [16:17] were you running gnome under gutsy? [16:17] i am not too much into xfce [16:17] yup [16:17] just wondering whether gnome is doing .. ok :) [16:18] i have installed mythbuntu on another machine (for a friend) and it worx ok [16:18] but i didnt find it that much faster [16:18] :) frustrating [16:18] i'm in the middle of a reinstall right now [16:18] first time didn't quite work out [16:19] not sure what i did wrong [16:19] first time mythtv install ? [16:19] not exactly :) [16:19] i've been running KnoppMyth on another box [16:20] decided to give MythBuntu a go since Ubuntu seems to be a great distro [16:20] my issues are more 'user error' than distro related i'm sure :) [16:20] i dont know....i think the 8.04 is a bit buggy [16:20] i'm not much of a linux guru ;) [16:20] i've heard a bit of that :) [16:20] i liked the combination of gutsy and myth much betrter [16:21] i switched to hardy to be able to install the weekly builds again...:-) [16:22] are you running Ubuntu with Myth installed? or the MythBuntu distro? [16:22] first [16:22] which i guess is basically the same... [16:22] kind of [16:22] i haven't tried that route yet [16:22] i installed mythbuntu on that other machine.... [16:22] still working through the preconfigured distros [16:22] didnt think it was much easier [16:23] not quite brave enough to get linux tweaked and then attempt Myth [16:23] someday :) [16:23] there's still lots of steps to take after an installation of mythbuntu to get everything working [16:23] dont think its much different [16:23] Hardy is no more "buggy" for me than anything else. [16:24] aclose72_, use the mythbuntu command center to setup things [16:25] darthanubis, are you saying everything can be setup from there ? [16:25] yeah, have been [16:25] it's pretty nice [16:25] yes [16:25] i dont think exactly everything can be done [16:26] no, but it's a pretty good start [16:26] it allows the backend to be setup [16:26] you are right there [16:26] anything not there is in the frontend obviuosly [16:26] I have to actually mention this? [16:27] darthanubis, i'm walking through the mythtv-setup right now [16:27] but when you try to get your imon running for example... [16:27] imon? [16:27] the lcd remote combination i had on my silverstone case [16:28] ron frazier helped me there [16:28] looking at the storage groups tab, is that where i'd list the mount points i set during the disk partitioning? [16:28] mcc took care of my remote effortlessly [16:28] never got that working from there... [16:28] but maybe my hardware was to exotic [16:29] aclose72_, yes [16:29] thx :) [16:35] well, here goes [16:35] rebooting :) [17:24] seems like i resolved the "cannot mount volume" issue by changing the appropriate fstab line [17:24] i now have /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom auto user,noauto 0 0 [17:29] no not really....as soon as i change the way mythfrontend should handle dvds the gnome message is there again [17:29] i can live with this now...but mybe its some mythtv bug [18:22] Hi. I'm trying to get Mythbuntu running on a PAL TV. Myth GUI works fine but when I go to "watch TV" the screen rolls as if the freq or res is wrong. I have to restart X to get it back. It's reporting 60Hz in the configuration screens, which I thought should maybe be 50Hz, but there's no way of changing it at 60Hz is the only option in the drop downs. [18:57] i'm actually able to tune channels this time around :) [18:58] but there are a bunch of garbage music only channels that the HDHR picked up that crash the frontend [18:58] i'll see if i can get rid of them through mythweb [18:59] any one else who have problems with lirc with it87 on the latest mythbuntu 8.04? [19:01] i have a asus digimatrix the lirc modules loads and I can see raw code when testing the remote with irrecord [19:02] sorry I mean mode2 [19:04] with irw I see nothing at all... and I'm using the provided lirc digimatrix conf file [19:10] hmm, i apparently don't have access to mysql through mythweb [19:10] i don't see anything in mythtv-setup that deals with mythweb [19:10] any idea where those settings would be? [19:37] when going through my initial install i set my mythweb user to mythweb [19:38]