[00:25] sigh... wth am I doing up... [01:12] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (Granada spam) [01:12] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (izmeh spam (was Granada)) [01:32] In #ubuntu, Seveas said: !ops | tobmalf is a bot or just repeating things others said. Annoying anyway [01:33] banned [01:46] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (chi/gralco continued offtopic) [01:46] * Pici takes the ops button away from seveas [01:47] hahahahha [01:48] In #ubuntu-offtopic, eboyjr said: !instantrimshot is Ba Dun Tssh! http://instantrimshot.com/ [02:26] Greetings, I would like to ask to get unbanned from the #ubuntu-offtopic channel [02:26] Jordan_U, this about amdpenguin? [02:29] none of the linux filesystems can even compete with NTFS [02:29] bazhang yes, that's why I joined but he seems like he might not be a troll [02:29] no time to 'mediate with amdpenguin [02:29] well, i think hes stating something, maybe its true, i dont know [02:29] Jordan_U, yet to be seen [02:30] well, he dont seem worse like me [02:30] worse than [02:32] smallfoot-, you will have to talk with the operator who banned you ( Hobbsee in this case) and they are afk; please come back in a while or /query them yourself [02:32] smallfoot-, best to part now and contact at a later time as there is no idle rule in this channel. [02:33] okie [02:34] oh, okie [02:39] at any rate, amdpenguin is now in 0t [02:51] * nickrud wonders about an auto ban for #ubuntu for anyone who spends more than a half hour in -offtopic [02:52] hey [02:54] ok, maybe not a half hour but some reasonable algorithm [02:58] sorry to panic and run; have to work (sunday am here) [03:21] nickrud, only if you want -ot to become another support channel [03:21] elkbuntu I can wish, can't I ;p [03:22] sure, and i can burst your bubble, cant i :Þ [03:22] * nickrud thinks there is some relationship between annoying people and their activity on -offtopic, just putting an algorithm to it .... [03:22] I disagree [03:23] Most of the annoying people in #ubuntu have never set foot in -ot [03:23] * nickrud is a most subtle troll [03:23] i agree with pici [03:28] @btlogin [03:29] * Hobbsee sighs at limcore. [03:29] the useless troll that he is. [03:29] what did he do now? [03:29] he was prattling in -bugs earlier [03:30] http://rafb.net/p/Crrcud66.html [03:30] gotta love the way he comes across. [03:32] hahahaha [03:32] * Pici sighs [03:32] he is, of course, in the leagues with That Other Group. [03:33] so it's not really surprising. but still. [03:33] laughing at him makes you feel better than sighing at him, btw [03:33] oh, sure [03:33] plus, he deserves no pitty ;) [03:33] * elkbuntu hits the t k for doubling [03:33] * elkbuntu gives up [03:34] Heres two separate occasions of limcore from my logs, I was only present for the second one. [03:34] it's actually awkward typing between a normal laptop and an eeepc. the layouts change [03:34] http://rafb.net/p/owxCap48.html [03:35] i love how he obfuscates bitch but leaves the f word there in all its glory [03:35] I know ;) [03:42] * Pici sighs @ bullgard4 [03:44] aww man. awn requires a crapload of gnome stuff :( [03:45] What about cairo dock? [03:47] i dont think that's in debian repos :( [03:47] ah [03:51] * elkbuntu raises an eyebrow. even freaking compiz has freaking gnome deps [03:52] ah, only the compiz metapackage [04:11] nhaines, Bodsda, how can we help you? [04:11] hi Pici, i suggested we come here because nhaines seems to have a problem with me, i didnt want to clog up the main channel with a dispute [04:12] Hello, Pici. [04:12] nhaines: hello [04:12] In #ubuntu, I notice that Bodsda was giving curt and redundant replies to people who were asking questions and not having luck with the first suggestions they tried. [04:13] curt? [04:13] In the first instance when one visitor said he still had trouble, Bodsda's reply was to "please try some of the solutions you've already been given" and I suggested that we should give him the benefit of the doubt that he'd unsuccessfully tried them. [04:14] Later, he seemed to be triggering Ubottu tips when people were still giving rather specific steps they'd taken to try and resolve an issue. [04:14] all of the commands suggested to him were solutions to his problem, he didnt say if his problem had changed, we didnt even know if he executed the correct command [04:14] I suggested this was less then helpful. Bodsda's reply was [04:14] 20:01 < Bodsda> nhaines, i know it is helpful, whats your point? [04:15] nhaines, i fail to see how a factoid about compiling things is irrelevant to someone trying to compile something [04:15] 220:04 < Bodsda> nhaines, im being constructive, a little scrolling reveals im being more constructive then yourself, so get off my case [04:15] Bodsda: that person had already give the specific steps she'd used to try and compile the source. [04:16] yes, the specific steps that person took were not the recommended ones, i (ubottu) gave the person the correct steps, and you hassled me again [04:16] In any event, Bodsda suggested we should meet here to discuss the event and here we are. [04:16] I'm looking at my logs, one moment [04:17] I know that Bodsda is not necessarily bound by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct but I felt that a little more tact might be called for. [04:17] I have signed the CoC [04:18] and i have respectfully obliged the rules of this channel for a long time. I was trying to help, and you were hassling me unfairly, as far as i am concerned [04:18] I disagree that requests to soften one's tone is "hassling". [04:19] nhaines, hassling was the continuation of your posts [04:20] I think Pici will be able to determine my tone from his logs. [04:20] hopefully he'll understand my frustration [04:20] okay [04:25] I've misused the bot before, thinking that I'm answering someone's question, when really I might have missed some information that was already given. Bodsda, I think you should be more careful of doing this in the future. nhaines, If you feel that someone else in the channel is not helping properly, it might be best to call an op's attention to it (not with the ! ops trigger, unless its an emergency) to prevent such things from getting out of hand in # [04:26] Pici: I didn't feel Bodsda's behavior was out-of-line in such a way to involve ops. I just felt in two instances that his tone was not constructive. [04:27] Which is why I welcomed a jump to this channel. But I will remember this channel in the future should I see unacceptable behavior from others. [04:28] i dont believe i misused the bot, but thats not the issue, my main problem was being intrrupted while i was trying to help someone [04:29] This is probably a good time to say that while it looked to me like Bodsda was dismissing krsnadasa's problem with ubottu, he did go on to try and assist her. [04:30] help comes in many forms, and all is welcome [04:30] nalioth: very well put. [04:30] if you see something you don't agree with, approach an op via PM and discuss . . . [04:31] if all help is welcome, why was i accused of misusing the bot? [04:31] Bodsda: it happens [04:31] Thank you, nalioth. [04:31] nalioth, what does? [04:32] Bodsda: false accusations [04:33] oh, ok [04:34] Bodsda, nhaines: are you two good now? [04:34] i have no problems ;~) [04:34] Pici: Yes. [04:34] Glad to hear it [04:34] Bodsda: I hope you understand that I wasn't trying to harass you and I'm really, really sorry if you felt like it. [04:35] Bodsda: #ubuntu certainly needs all the helpers we can get. :) [04:35] How you felt is as important as what I meant, so I apologize. [04:35] nhaines, apologies for being a bit rash, quite tired here. Glad things are sorted. Thanks Pici and nalioth [04:36] Thanks for the friendly ears, Pici and nalioth. I appreciate it. [04:36] y'all be good [04:37] cya guys ;~) [04:37] Take care. :) [06:06] someone is apparently onjoin PM spamming #ubuntu... [06:07] nickrud, should have thought of simply /part & rejoin myself... brain not up to speed... [06:07] hm, i didn't 'get it [06:08] no spam. I think neo the user is just pming. [06:08] ah, there we are [06:08] he is well known [06:08] [15:08] WELCOME TO #UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [06:08] oh, so because he's nto a bot, he's allowed to do it? [06:09] this sounds like another of the $she_who_cannot_be_named sagas coming [06:09] Hobbsee, PM spam is still PM spam [06:09] chronic ban-evader [06:09] no, we needed evidence, which you gathered, thank you very much. Please act :) [06:09] yoinked. [06:09] if bazhang's right, it wont' do much though [06:09] * Hobbsee waits for the abuse [06:10] I PM'd Neo, he's claiming to have Tourette's... gah. [06:10] one of his nicks (in ban evasion) was bazhang_sucks [06:10] * nickrud flogs Hobbsee with a wet noodle [06:10] Madpilot: yeah, i just got that [06:10] another was dont_ban_me [06:10] and he cant' help it [06:10] heh [06:10] the debbil made me do it [06:10] Hobbsee, yes, poor creature [06:10] :) [06:11] involuntary vocalization and typing are not neurally tied I wouldn't think [06:11] such clear typing at that [06:13] that noodle didn't seem to have much effect, I guess I'll up it to pm'ing a message from emma [06:13] heh [06:14] but what will The Auditor think? [06:15] * nickrud shakes in his boots. He likes emma and hobbsee, perfectly willing to tweak each [06:16] hah [06:16] * Hobbsee tweaks nickrud [06:16] OUCH [07:17] In Ubottu, Pers3ux said: What is linux? [08:12] someone mind un-muting rodserling in -ot? [08:18] * SNuxoll pokes the ops [09:08] ompaul, has wols been behaving? [09:09] yeap [09:09] my typo he was helping someone [09:09] and then there was a netsplit [09:09] wanted to see if he was still there [09:09] his forced holiday must have done something good [09:18] err, now that you guys are here I'll ask again, anyone mind unmuting rodserling in -ot ? [09:19] * SNuxoll is suprised no one yelled at him for idling [09:21] * TheSheep yells at SNuxoll for idling [09:22] SNuxoll, what was he muted for? [09:23] elkbuntu: it was a joke [09:23] elkbuntu: however whoever muted him forgot to undo it [09:23] SNuxoll, when was this? i've not been paying attention to -ot [09:23] elkbuntu: 2 days ago IIRC, lemme grep my logs [09:24] also, is rodserling incapable of coming here to ask himself? [09:24] elkbuntu: rodserling's not that intelligent :P [09:24] ompaul is the one who muted him [09:25] probably for the best. it's bad enough putting up with him in -ot, let alone letting him here [09:25] elkbuntu: yeah [09:25] 14:10 < ompaul> totally ..... /me looks on as rodserling disparages his fellow humans and considers things [09:25] 14:11 -!- mode/#ubuntu-offtopic [+b %*!*@unaffiliated/rodserling] by ompaul [09:27] @btlogin [09:29] it doesnt look like a joke to me. it looks like ompaul getting sick of rodserling's disparaging behaviour towards others. i'll let ompaul decide when he returns [09:29] ok then, I'll take my leave now === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [09:54] ... [09:56] i know, i also apparantly missed the memo outlining that when we get exasperated and mute people so they cant be painful, we're only joking. [09:56] oh nvermind me [09:57] but we like minding you. makes us feel important ;) [10:00] then mind that I'll never drink alcoholic beverages again? [10:00] please? [10:05] ok [10:05] * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti [10:05] not so tight [10:16] moi [10:17] hrghrhgrhh [10:17] mornings... [10:17] hrghrghrh [10:17] * Myrtti tries not to die today [10:18] kids... [10:19] * Myrtti turns audible bell off from her irssi windows [11:08] DistroJockey called the ops in #ubuntu (eXxXtreme) [11:08] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (remove me from this list if you take away ops privileges kthxbye) [11:11] hmmm [11:12] !ops ~= / Seveas/ / [11:12] I'll remember that Myrtti [11:12] :'( [11:13] ~=? [11:13] * Myrtti shrugs [11:13] how odd. [11:15] it's perl [11:16] @login [11:16] ikonia: The operation succeeded. [11:36] * Mez hands Myrtti some painkillers [11:37] * jussi01 smiles at Mez [11:37] oh, I've got no headache [11:37] I'd jump off the balcony if I did have [11:38] * Mez glares [11:38] I can barely live with the nausea [11:38] * Myrtti turns audible bell off from her irssi windows <-- that made me assume you had [11:38] and you have nausea because... [11:38] no, it just grinds my ears [11:39] Tm_T: "papa don't preach" [11:39] Flannel, Perl is =~ [11:39] !-ops [11:39] ops aliases: kops, op, calltheops, call the ops - added by Seveas on 2006-07-29 12:54:12 - last edited by Myrtti on 2008-07-13 13:12:43 [11:39] Tm_T: http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2661780706/ [11:40] * Mez has cold pizza - anyone want some [11:40] Myrtti: nah, just remind you who's to blame ;-P [11:40] Mez: me! [11:40] yes please [11:40] come and get it before I leave for another city then :P [11:41] Myrtti: who's Jussi K? not me I'm sure :-P [11:42] Mez: where are you ? [11:42] Reading, UK [11:42] my boss/superiour/senior project manager [12:00] * Myrtti curls up in a corner of the bathroom floor and whimpers quietly [12:01] Myrtti: this looks nom nom :D http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2646034465/in/photostream/ [12:01] it does [12:02] * jussi01 is hungry... someone come and cook for me? [12:29] * Mez hands you his cold pizza [12:30] * Myrtti looks at the pizza enviously and curls back up [12:32] I'll never drink again. [12:34] you said that last ti,e [12:34] time * [12:34] make it real this time. [12:34] this time I'm serious [12:35] * Mez shall not proffer you wine this time next week then ? [12:35] I hereby grant licence to people of this channel attending LRL to smack me on my fingers if I'm sighted drinking an alcoholic beverage at LRL [12:35] Mez: yeah, I'll drink soda instead [12:35] s/wine/wine spritzer/ [12:36] I know I'll prolly get smacked on my fingers a lot [12:36] Myrtti, dont worry, I'll sneak a bottle of vodka into the hotel ;) [12:36] thingy called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [12:36] or get you drunk before we get to wolves [12:36] but atleast I'll remember to drink more water in the process of getting drunk [12:37] SNuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu (AKIIIN-ist - onjoin/onpart spamming) [12:37] OK, he is. [12:38] yep - /cycle always works [12:38] * Mez thinks he might set up a bot to cycle every 20 mins and report onjoin spam [12:39] I think I could do that with an irssi :-P [12:39] Mez: PS: I thought staff said not to remove such bots :) [12:39] ♥ irssi [12:41] akiiin-ist will not be a problem now folks [12:41] Gary: :D [12:42] jpds: it's handy to be able to prove it, but the bot was in other channels too, so it is now dealt with [12:42] Gary: Yes. [12:44] bet akiiinist is related to neo_the_user somehow [12:45] hum, basically all I'd need to have to report onjoin spammers is an irssi with timer.pl and forward.pl [12:47] jpds, oh.. crap yeah [12:47] oops [12:55] * Myrtti hums [13:01] "where do we need bot software when irssi can do everything and the scripts are written in PERL." [13:02] :-P [13:03] * Myrtti notes she now has four irssis running for different purposes [13:09] Note to self - swallow water in mouth before sneezing [13:11] * Mez gets a cloth [13:26] In #ubuntu-bd, ashabadi said: ubot3: who is who?/ [13:33] ... [13:36] * Myrtti huggles her irssis [13:36] as in... multiple? [13:36] 15:03 * Myrtti notes she now has four irssis running for different purposes [13:37] ehrm. okay. your insanity :-P [13:37] one to IRC, one to bitlbee, one to do auto-opping for few channels and keep the channels alive, one to do that /cycle thing [13:39] well... I *am* an irssi fangirl [13:39] what can I say... [13:40] * Dave2 pats his xchat, hides. [13:40] ygh [13:41] Dave2, XCHAT? [13:41] last time I met you you bitched at me SOOOOOOOO much for using xchat [13:41] if only you'd understand Finnish [13:41] no, no I didn't [13:41] http://irssi.org/themefiles/roses.png is so funny :-D [13:41] or for not using irssi [13:42] one or the other [13:42] I like it for its UI only. I find scripting it to be somewhat painful compared to irssi, and do send it through an irssi instance (irssi-proxy). [13:43] (And when I'm not on a personal machine I'll ssh in and use irssi, but I just find it hard to use as my primary client - I compulsively hold alt+a to keep my activity indicators clean, and with >680 windows open, this is tough to do.) [13:45] ? [13:45] >680... [13:45] * Dave2 does a /win list [13:45] I currently have 699 windows open [13:46] Dave2 has quite (Excess Flood) [13:46] s/quite/quit/ [13:46] gah [13:46] * Mez should get back to packing [13:46] 699 is nothing to return. I once accidentally did a /who that returned everyone on the network. All 45,000 of 'em. [13:47] x_hunter is spamming in #ubuntu by /msg [13:47] http://pastebin.ca/1070832 [13:47] Ward1983: He has been removed. [13:47] !staff ^^ [13:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about staff ^^ [13:47] * ompaul fowns [13:47] !staff ^^ [13:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about staff ^^ [13:47] jpds, ah ok hes still /msging though... [13:47] lol [13:47] !staff | ^^ [13:47] ompaul: multifail [13:47] ^^: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :) [13:47] doh [13:47] * ompaul is not awake [13:47] thanx for the fast response :) [13:47] thanks mez [13:47] Ward1983: messaging you? [13:48] * Mez hands ompaul some proplus [13:48] Not in any channels currently, so can't really verify [13:48] PriceChild, see pm [13:48] or pastebin [13:48] http://pastebin.ca/1070832 [13:48] PriceChild, not at the moment anymore since i just ignore him but i m pretty sure it was after the kick / ban [13:48] ok thanks [13:48] thanx for your time, byebye [14:19] uu edge has the new icons [14:26] http://pricechild.co.uk/Screenshot-Firefox-Update.png erm.... [14:27] luls [14:27] they're the language packs [14:27] But I prefer to ignore that :) [14:28] PriceChild: I had that as well. [14:29] PriceChild: it does something funky right after, and then it just works again [14:29] Nafallo: it reverts to standard english (the updates from proposed break localisations) if you check tools > addons > languages, you can see they are disabled [14:30] oooh [14:30] awesome! [14:31] * Nafallo wish the message could have stated that it was languages that was breaking, rather than the world [14:32] * Myrtti snugs her epiphany [14:46] sigh... may I have a non IRC based rant? [14:47] atleast in /query Myrtti if nowhere else [14:48] #?#"&N %#####& Joost, why is it so #?"%#?"" hard to come out with a linux client? [14:48] [14:50] * Myrtti wanders to search good music videos in youtube, then remembers she doesn't have flash anymore [14:51] HO---- HUM! [15:03] * Dave2 hands Myrtti a copy of swfdec. [15:03] (again.) [15:03] * Dave2 then hides in the corner. [15:03] sorry, tried compiling it yesterday too many times [15:03] compiling? packages! [15:04] swfdec-mozilla [15:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXi7bHnEWSE ♥ youtube-dl [15:08] * Dave2 hands Myrtti a copy of clive [15:09] clive \o/ [15:16] HOLY HELL [15:16] :-o [15:17] * Myrtti squeals in excitement [15:19] ? [15:21] IT WORKS [15:21] http://youtube.com/watch?v=oghj7y4hluU ♥ [15:22] 386 ? [15:23] now I'll just have to test if that crashes my x [15:27] hi is there an administrator around... need to get something done that only an admin can do [15:27] eh? [15:27] lazertek_: what's up? [15:28] PriceChild need to get my username changed [15:28] PriceChild: on the forum [15:29] this is hardly the forum for that [15:29] lazertek_: #ubuntuforums would be the place to ask this questino on irc in the future. Please post a request in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48 [15:29] lazertek_: but... we don't usually do them and you should have a *very* good reason. [15:29] PriceChild: thanks [15:29] PriceChild: i do have a good enough reason [15:30] lazertek_: see the second half of http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=48 [15:35] PriceChild: if your username on the forum gives out your personal info and makes vulnerable is a valid reason for the username to be changed right? [15:36] It would probably be considered. [15:36] I'm just a mod, I don't do those bits. [15:37] * PriceChild fails to see how the registration form could be missinterpreted [15:38] I guess you could think you're meant to put your real name in the 'User Name' field.. but that's about it. [15:39] but if you read the text above it asks you to enter your 'desired username' [15:44] i noticed that but I created this account a while ago and didn't realize people will be able to track me down using just that at that time... Some people I know noticed those posts were mine and were able to get to my personal info on the web... Lucily those were people I knew but this keeps me vulnerable to other people i dont know and those who i wouldnt want to know... and im sure this is a concern of forums too [15:50] lazertek_: mind PMing me about what personal info is on there? I believe I'm looking at the profile in question but fail to see anything you need an admin to remove.. [15:51] (not the actual info, but what kind) [15:59] lazertek_: anything else we can help you with? [16:01] Myrtti: thanks but thats all i needed for now [16:03] !idle [16:03] Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [16:07] lazertek_: please see the above [16:13] o/ [16:14] and yeah, I have to bring my Pasila DVD to LRL [16:15] !idle > lazertek_ [16:15] lazertek_, please see my private message [16:15] you definitely need to see the episode which explains Phil Collins hangover [16:16] that episode fortunately has english captions in it [16:50] hmm [16:52] mmmm.... [16:53] * Pici wonders what trouble Myrtti is causing with clones [18:12] Pici: /lastlog marmelaati in #ubuntu [18:13] Myrtti, perhaps don't have that quit message [18:13] ;-) [18:13] :-P [18:13] we know who is it [18:14] but really, irssi is magnificent [18:14] Myrtti, iyho [18:14] ;-) [18:14] iyho? [18:14] * ompaul goes away for the evening most likely will not be back [18:14] in your humble opinion ;-) [18:14] * ompaul runs [18:15] lol [18:15] very humble [18:15] :-P [18:15] anyway cheers [18:19] * jussi01 is making pancakes :D [18:25] Myrtti: Clever... [18:26] Myrtti: All the clones are you? [18:26] xob.kapsi.fi? [18:26] Yes [18:26] heck no? [18:26] kapsi is the biggest non-profit shell provider in Finland [18:27] Oh, the only reason I noticed was because of the clones message in -ops-monitor [18:27] http://www.kapsi.fi/english.html [18:28] I know [18:30] myrtti@xob:~$ uptime 20:30:37 up 51 days, 2:22, 414 users, load average: 0.50, 0.29, 0.19 [18:56] there *should* be a way to add domains to the bots to ignore [18:57] I find it hilarious that the bots warn about multiple connections from canonical, for instance. [18:57] :-D [18:58] "noooo, there are multiple connections from canonical, they must be taking the channel ovah!" [18:58] I always do a pretend /shakes fist at them when I see it [19:40] tsk tsk tsk, those canonical people, they must be up to no good [19:48] I think this is the true story, and there are some 5th columnists among us: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/CthulhubuntuLogo.png [20:40] jussi01: http://dy.fi/9k [20:46] awwww [20:47] Myrtti: your cavies seem to have a medical problem [21:12] nalioth: oh? [21:13] Myrtti: did you just post pix of them? [21:14] no? [21:16] sorry. humor depends on timing. [21:16] yup [21:16] hedgies = cavies with medical problems [21:16] oh well [21:17] you can't always win [21:17] not even every time [21:17] In ubottu, flowy said: gdm is installed [21:17] whose hedgehogs are they, anyway? [21:20] "Tanja Köykkä [21:20] s" [21:27] Starting new job tomorrow. Will only be on in evenings from now on for the forseeable future. [21:27] Play nice Myrtti. [21:27] * Myrtti whimpers [21:27] can't tease at all? [21:27] * Myrtti blinks innocently [22:03] PriceChild: Where are you working? [22:04] birmingham, near the university [22:28] PriceChild: wow, you will have next EuroPython really close :) [23:12] . . . [23:12] what did I do now? [23:13]