[00:00] <bomber> then install (hd0) it seems to be doing something and when i reboot i still only get xp
[00:04] <j978> idk... have you tried "grub-instlal device"?
[00:04] <adoc> bomber: what is the number of your partition where grub is installed ?
[00:04] <j978> *grub-install
[00:05] <cellfish> hey there,  quick question : the default installation of kubuntu uses 3.5 or 4.0 of kde... then, how can one switch from one to the other?
[00:05] <j978> cellfish: you can have both installed
[00:05] <adoc> j978: no, that's when you are running the right partition, not in his case
[00:05] <cellfish> j978: does it give you a choice at the very beginning?
[00:05] <j978> i think you can choose at kdm?
[00:06] <j978> from the lists of desktops installed you can login into any of them
[00:06] <gata> #kubuntu es
[00:06] <gata> #kubuntu-es
[00:07] <cellfish> ah good .. i'm sorry, i'm still a little new to linux even though i've been playing with linux since like 1994 with slackware lol
[00:07] <j978> it has gotten way easier :)
[00:07] <cellfish> i'm also wondering about blu-ray and hd-dvd. i know both are drm-friendly and technically against linux philosophy but is there any progress (that does not require ripping) to make eiother of the formats playable by default in linux?
[00:07] <bomber> my grub is on hd0,1
[00:07] <adoc> bomber: you have to open a grub shell, and then type the following 3 commands
[00:08] <cellfish> j978: yeah, i had a blast with ubuntu 8.04. i was practically in tears going back to windows. i was ONLY missing the blu-ray / hd-dvd playability.
[00:08] <j978> uhm i have no idea about bluray... my computer is almost from 1994 :P
[00:08] <adoc> device (hd0) /dev/sda     (or /dev/hda , depending on your system)
[00:08] <adoc> root (hd0,1)
[00:08] <cellfish> j978: blessed be linux for running on that 5$ puter of yours :)
[00:09] <adoc> setup (hd0)
[00:09] <j978> yup yup :P
[00:09] <adoc> and there you are :-)
[00:09] <bomber> ok lemme try
[00:11] <bomber> im getting file not found on device (hd0) /dev/hda
[00:11] <crimsun> bomber: /dev/sda
[00:11] <bomber> that seems to work
[00:11] <crimsun> (due to libata transition that started in edgy)
[00:12] <bomber> well it says succeeded.... but it did before too... lemme reboot... thanks
[00:13] <YeppBoy> I have an MP3 player with a few protected files and I have no idea what media player for Kubuntu supports DRM
[00:14] <crimsun> none, really.
[00:16] <YeppBoy> at least my Zen is UMS
[00:17] <bomber_> i forget the nick of the person why helped but i love you man
[00:18] <bomber_> i been wrestling this for at least 5 hours
[00:18] <bomber_> none of the online instructions tell it like that
[00:19] <Dr_willis> like what?
[00:19]  * Dr_willis missed the whole problem. :P
[00:19] <bomber_> the device line is the one absent from online instructions
[00:19] <bomber_> getting grub back on a sata drive
[00:20] <Dr_willis> grub is the kind of tool - it pays to go to the grub homepage. and read its manual/docs :)
[00:20] <Dr_willis> It can do some amazing things
[00:20] <adoc> bomber: you're welcome ;-)
[00:20]  * bomber_ dcc sends a case of beer to adoc
[00:21] <adoc> bomber: hehe, thanks
[00:21] <bomber_> i definitely wrote that down
[00:22] <adoc> bomber: that's also what I did the last time I crashed my grub, and that's why I was able to explain you so easily
[00:23] <bomber_> i was almost ready to surrender and reinstall kubuntu
[00:24] <dick-richardson> it's probably already been asked a ton, but how do you enable the cube effect with kwin4?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> i didemnt think kde4 had the cube
[00:31] <j978> i think it's a Compiz-only effect, something similar in kwin4 is the Cover Switch effect
[00:34] <v6lur> hi all. what was that command for searching, which package a certain file is in?
[00:35] <Pici> v6lur: If you have the package installed, you can use dpkg -S /path/to/file
[00:35] <adoc> v6lur: install the package "apt-file", and then "apt-file search PATERN"
[00:35] <v6lur> ah, thanks a lot
[00:37] <adoc> v6lur: apt-file works even if the package is not installed, it just need to be in one of the repositories
[00:39] <bomber_> im not sure anyone help with this one but I tried to run nortons partition magic on my system thinking i could ghost the windows install to make it easier next time i mess it up and need to reinstall it
[00:40] <bomber_> and it said it was fixing the partition table for my usb terrabyte drive and it messed it up instead
[00:40] <bomber_> linux still reads it properly but windows thinks it has no free space now and its got like 390 gigs left
[00:41] <bomber_> i only have 1/2 of it partitioned
[00:41] <bomber_> so the other 1/2 is still unudsed
[00:41] <bomber_> unused
[00:42] <AndrewMohawk> what app can i use to sniff dns traffic?
[00:42] <crimsun> tcpdump
[00:43] <bomber_> basically changed the ending an beginning cylinders so its not reading correctly
[00:43] <crimsun> also, ethereal/wireshark, etc.
[00:44] <rodolinux> I was wondering if anyone here can help me with the Beryl thing
[00:44] <j978> wasn't there an option to apt-get to allow --reinstall of older packages? can't find it in the manpage
[00:44] <rodolinux> I managed to install it and now I have 2 windows, when I change it for 6 lets say, to have a cube, its  stuck on 2
[00:44] <rodolinux> i can change it to any number but its always stuck on 2
[00:45] <rodolinux> it flips but its not a cube
[00:45] <oobe> rodolinux, just uninstall it
[00:46] <rodolinux> ?
[00:47] <Odd-rationale> rodolinux: are you trying to setup compiz-fusion on kde3?
[00:47] <adoc> rodolinux: the number of desktop you set for kde has nothing to do with the number of desktop in beryl
[00:47] <rodolinux> oh really?
[00:48] <rodolinux> i am in kde
[00:48] <rodolinux>  and installing beryl
[00:48] <Odd-rationale> !beryl
[00:49] <rodolinux> !beryl
[00:49] <rodolinux> ok
[00:49] <adoc> rodolinux: use CompizConfig to select the number of desktop you want
[00:49] <Odd-rationale> rodolinux: as you can see, compiz-fusion is reccommended over beryl...
[00:50] <oobe> !silly-3d-thing-that-serves-no-purpose
[00:50] <j978> !but-it-looks-nice
[00:50] <oobe> true
[00:51] <Odd-rationale> compiz doesn't play nicely with kde, though...
[00:51] <oobe> i never tried it cause i didnt want to mess my system up i have everything i want need tuned so when it comes to stufff like that i can go without
[00:57] <BARBEESHA> hey guys
[00:57] <BARBEESHA> i just want to let you all know
[00:57] <BARBEESHA> that sometimes
[00:57] <BARBEESHA> i like to rick roll my self just for the fun of it :)
[01:00] <AndrewMohawk> what would be the easiest way to create a packet on demand?
[01:00] <AndrewMohawk> python lib?
[01:00] <AndrewMohawk> i just wanna be like python coolpacketsender.py UDP 53 1.2.3.4
[01:01] <crimsun> AndrewMohawk: scapy.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> I belive there are some packet test/sending tools in the repos. But im not sure of your specific needs
[01:01] <Dr_willis> !info scapy
[01:02] <Dr_willis> !info sing
[01:05] <asobi> is there a way to turn screensave on/off with a key?
[01:07] <Dr_willis> i belive ive seen some sort of 'hotspot/corner' thing somewhere... :) that coule let you disable it by moving the mouse to the topleft
[01:07] <Dr_willis> that may of been a kde4 thing
[01:07] <asobi> using kde3
[01:08] <Dr_willis> might of been a compiz thing.   since i dong use kde4
[01:24] <kdavid> hello I just installed or tried to install Compiz fusion and now my sound does not work I have KDE 3.5.9
[01:25] <BluesKaj> !compiz | kdavid
[01:25] <k350> Hi, How can I clean up after an installation. So I dont have a lot of unneccesary files that takes up space?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> k350: depends on which install you have
[01:27] <BluesKaj> prolly just a bare bones one...most are
[01:28] <k350> BluesKaj: I installed kde-core kdm and xorg
[01:28] <kdavid> Blueskaj thanks but I already went that route through Kmenu etc and it did not install all the way.. I will check out the compiz-fusion site hopefully someone is there.
[01:28] <k350> it taked up 5xx MB
[01:29] <BluesKaj> most linux OS.s don't include unecessary files
[01:30] <BluesKaj> k350 , open adept and leave the search box blank ...check what's installed
[01:31] <BluesKaj> WB genii :)
[01:32] <genii> BluesKaj: Hiya :)
[01:32] <compilerwriter> Is there a way to configure Konversation to automatically connect to two servers when I fire it up.
[01:34] <compilerwriter> weather
[01:34] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter:  in the edit server dialog check the "Connectat start up" box
[01:34] <BluesKaj> in each server youhave listed
[01:35] <dan__> hi
[01:36] <dan__> Im looking for some help with ubuntu 8.04 and ati
[01:36] <BluesKaj> hi dan__...lotsa canucks logging on tonight
[01:37] <dan__> any one?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> what's the prob?
[01:38] <dan__> every time i install the ati drivers i get the white screen of death
[01:38] <dan__> after the login page
[01:39] <compilerwriter> Thanks BluesKaj
[01:39] <dan__> i have looked all over the net and cant find a fix
[01:39]  * compilerwriter fills BluesKaj's glass with Grand Marnier
[01:40] <BluesKaj> dan_, is the default restricted driver available for you ati graphics card ?
[01:40] <BluesKaj> thx compilerwriter :)
[01:40] <dan__> does any one know if a fix?
[01:42] <genii> dan__: Did you use the instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Manual_Method_.28installing_Catalyst_8.6.29 ?
[01:43] <dan__> thanks all take a look at it and hope that i donrt have to reinstall ubuntu
[01:43] <BluesKaj> dan__:  I took the drastic step of reverting to gutsy ...my ati is functioning like it should now , albeit no FF3 or latest google-earth but at least they work.
[01:43] <hagabaka> how can I install an older version of a package using aptitude or adept?
[01:44] <BluesKaj> hagabaka:  temporarily change your sources that hold the older OS version
[01:44] <Dr_willis> !pin
[01:44] <BluesKaj> to
[01:46] <dan__> thanks
[01:46] <dan__> hope it works
[01:48] <compilerwriter> Now that I have gotten that annoying little detail sorted on to my real question.  Is it possible to utilize a usb drive as a boot drive for the purposes of a second operating system?
[01:49] <SebNaitsabes> second operating system
[01:49] <SebNaitsabes> do you want to be able to run more than one OS at the same time?
[01:49] <SebNaitsabes> compilerwriter?
[01:50] <compilerwriter> No I wish to be able to boot to more than one OS, but I don't want to repartition my one little hard drive.
[01:50] <SebNaitsabes> :)
[01:50] <SebNaitsabes> you don't need to partiton anyway
[01:50] <SebNaitsabes> anything
[01:50] <SebNaitsabes> heard of virtual machines?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> compilerwriter,  yes. should be possible..
[01:50] <genii> compilerwriter: Yes. The proces is fairly well documented for a number of different linux distributions at the pendrivelinux website
[01:50] <SebNaitsabes> you got Kubuntu installed?
[01:51] <SebNaitsabes> you can run  other OS's inside your  Kubuntu host OS as virtual machines :)
[01:51]  * genii hands Dr_willis a coffee
[01:51] <SebNaitsabes> and use both at same time
[01:51] <compilerwriter> Yes I have kubuntu installed.  I would like to use a usb drive to try out Ibex.
[01:51] <ncfi1013_> ok i got amarok to "see' my ipod now i need help with getting amarok to sync my ipod. can anybody tell me a VERY SIMPLE way to do this?
[01:51] <SebNaitsabes> you can do the USB thing yes or
[01:51] <SebNaitsabes> you could try out Ibex in a virtual machine :)
[01:53] <compilerwriter> I already have one virtual machine going.  What is the pendrive website?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux.com
[01:54] <genii> compilerwriter: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/   on the right side down on the page are a number of different tutorials for different OSs and so on
[01:54] <compilerwriter> Thanks genii
[01:54]  * compilerwriter pours genii some Cognac
[01:55] <genii> compilerwriter: Heh, thanks but I'm on the beer tonight :)
[01:56] <sensae> I can't connect to my WPA-encrypted network. It detects it's WPA, accepts the key, but fails when trying to DHCP. My router sends a DHCP lease, the system just won't accept it
[02:04] <kdavid> Just a quick question how do I make it so I have 4 desktops? Right now I have two and when I try to make it 4 it does not do it.
[02:04] <Dr_willis> using compiz? if so  You must use the ccsm tool to set the # of desktops
[02:05] <kdavid> yes I am using compiz
[02:06] <kdavid> where is the ccsm tool?
[02:06] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[02:08] <kdavid> Is this the same as the comizconfig settings manager?
[02:08] <ncfi1013_> amarok can see ipod. amarok cant sync ipod becuz media is not playable for ipod but the same media is playable for ipod in windows
[02:08] <kdavid> I already have this
[02:10] <Dr_willis> I dont mess with compiz much. i run ccsm with 'ccsm' from the command line.  the general tab - has the settings for the # of desktops somewhere in there.
[02:11] <kdavid> ok dr I will look into it thanks
[02:11] <Dr_willis>  Help in #compiz-fusion
[02:16]  * bobJR Tнгoшıп Tuпes :  Yiruma - 07 When The Love Falls
[02:17] <bobJR> sorry wrong room
[02:17] <bobJR> lol
[02:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:17]  * Dr_willis jamms to Pat Boon - In a Metal Mood.
[02:28] <ubuntu> hey
[02:30] <dthacker> ubuntu: quit pm'ing me
[02:31] <keplenk> hi
[02:31] <keplenk> where can I get help with video resolution issues? Is there a channel I can go to?
[02:52] <flaccid> !fixres | keplenk
[02:57] <peterbuldge> is anybody else having a problem with msn not working with kopete anymore? In kopete-kde3 the messenger crashes when an msn account connects and in kopete-kde4 msn accounts wonn't ever connect at all. Is this a known issue and are there any solutions?
[02:58] <keplenk> thanks for the reply
[02:58] <keplenk> ill check it out.  I just reformatted again.  I think I messed up the xorg.conf and didn't back up
[02:59] <flaccid> keplenk: generally you should check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the problem and if you need help with the problem you can show it to us
[02:59] <keplenk> ahh ok.  After I reformat I'll just paste it here
[02:59] <flaccid> peterbuldge: both kopete versions atm shouldn't have a problem connecting. i use both for testing.
[02:59] <flaccid> keplenk: cool just put it in a pastebin
[02:59] <keplenk> thanks again guys
[02:59] <keplenk> okish
[03:00] <keplenk> :)
[03:00] <flaccid> np
[03:00] <peterbuldge> then how can I find out what the issue on my system is annd fix it?
[03:00] <flaccid> peterbuldge: well it sounds like networking. you can run kopete from konsole and then see what errors there are if any
[03:08] <keplenk> hey guys, format just completed (PC in my other room). My video card is Nvidia Geforce 4200ti / monitor is Dell UltraScan P780.  SHould I install the nvidia restricted drivers first?
[03:08] <keplenk> before configuring the xconf/
[03:08] <keplenk> ?
[03:09] <keplenk> or doing anything ... lol .. really new to kubuntu.  I know some ubuntu though (but it is installed in my newer PC, I didn't have problems with video thats why im clueless now with my old pc)
[03:09] <maarth> first install and then xconf
[03:09] <keplenk> alright
[03:10] <flaccid> keplenk: you do not need to configure xorg.conf just use the hardware drivers manager to enabled the restricted driver.
[03:12] <buckethead> What would be a good program for viewing a large number of image thumbnails? Dolphin is too slow.
[03:13] <keplenk> alright flaccid
[03:13] <keplenk> earlier .. i've installed nvidia-settings from the adept search
[03:14] <keplenk> as in earlier before I reformatted again
[03:14] <flaccid> !enter | keplenk
[03:14] <flaccid> keplenk: yeah the correct way is not with adept but rather with hardware drivers manager
[03:16] <flaccid> can someone test knemo for me if they are connected to an encrypted wireless network?
[03:17] <buckethead> What are they looking for?
[03:18] <flaccid> buckethead: huh?
[03:22] <ubuntu> Buenas
[03:24] <buckethead> flaccid: For KNemo.. Do you want me to futz with it? I'm on KDE4.
[03:26] <aciel_> Hi folks. I got no sound in kubuntu 8.04 kde4. I had it working before, but then my hard drive died. I suspect the problem is related to the presence of an onboard soundcard in addition to my Audigy, but even plugging one channel of speakers into each card gives no audio. thoughts?
[03:26] <flaccid> buckethead: oh just that on the wireless tab it says on mine Encryption: off, yet i am connected to WPA2 AP
[03:29] <buckethead> Ah. Fun.
[03:29] <buckethead> Give me a mo.
[03:31] <BluesKaj> aciel_:  dunno for sure but you could try this : lspci | grep audio , the choose which soundcard you want to set as the default with this :asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"  ..including the quotes
[03:33] <bob3213243_>  Hey I am trying to use a windows computer to access my ubuntu computer at the house without using a CLI, I would like it to have a simple gui of some sorts. I have ssh and samba setup and running on the kubuntu computer.
[03:33] <aciel_> BluesKaj: yeah, i tried that. unfortunately, no luck.
[03:34] <BluesKaj> aciel_:  ok then you may need to go into the BIOS peripherals and delete or make one soundcard the default.
[03:34] <aciel_> BluesKaj: Tried this, too. I've got onboard audio controller (ac97) disabled right now.
[03:35] <aciel_> BluesKaj: also, i tried changing the IRQ of the audigy, and that didn't help.
[03:36] <BluesKaj> aciel_:  well that's all i can help you with...maybe one of the other guys knows a fix
[03:36] <keplenk> Hey Flaccid.  I just installed the restricted drivers from nvidia.  What should be my next step?  After installing, I tried to go to the resolution setting.  Unfortunately, I'm still on the same boat.  I can't choose higher resolution.  Thank you
[03:36] <aciel_> BluesKaj: thanks anyway. there a more appropriate place to ask? #alsa or somesuch?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> keplenk:  maybe configuring the monitor will help
[03:37] <BluesKaj> aciel_:  yeah , give the  #alsa  crew some thing to do :)
[03:38] <BluesKaj> err something
[03:38] <flaccid> keplenk: show the log
[03:38] <flaccid> !samba | bob3213243_
[03:39] <scopecreep> is there an easy way to make konversation use firefox? im not seeing browser in the settings
[03:39] <bob3213243_> flaccid I have samba setup how to dial in over the WAN? I haven't seen anything that makes it simple and clean.
[03:40] <flaccid> bob3213243_: you do not expose samba over the internet generally. its a bad security practice.
[03:41] <flaccid> scopecreep: its in the behaviour | general tab
[03:41] <bob3213243_> flaccid how do I dial into my kubuntu box via windows?>
[03:42] <keplenk> This is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/m11a6dc6a
[03:42] <flaccid> bob3213243_: the secure way is to install openssh-server on the ubuntu box and use WinSCP in windows. all you do is allow/forward port 22 from your router/firewall to the ubuntu box
[03:43] <flaccid> bob3213243_: can you pastebin your xorg.conf as well please and just give me 5mins
[03:44] <keplenk> Hey Flaccid, If you need my xorg.conf > here it is http://pastebin.com/m42eb72dc
[03:44] <bob3213243_> yes, I need to switch computers  brb
[03:53] <esterichia_coli> como me paso al canal de kubuntu en español por fabor alguien ayuda
[03:53] <Jucato> !es | esterichia_coli
[03:53] <esterichia_coli> grasias ubottu
[03:54] <esterichia_coli> miles de grasias ya me estoy pasando al canal en español grasias grasias
[03:55] <esterichia_coli> pero como ago para desconectarme de este canal??
[03:57] <BluesKaj> !it | tsunami_
[03:57]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[03:59] <flaccid> keplenk: there is a detection problem with the crt for the resolution, give me a few more mins to look into
[04:03] <sparr> how can i make my alsa mixer settings persist across reboots?
[04:05] <flaccid> sparr: i thought they should already. perhaps google can help?
[04:05] <keplenk> thank you flaccid
[04:09] <buckethead> flaccid: I'm not seeing my encryption either. Strange.
[04:09] <flaccid> must be a bug buckethead. btw i love your kfc bucket :)
[04:10] <flaccid> keplenk: um how many monitors are plugged and what make/models are they?
[04:10] <buckethead> Haha!
[04:10] <flaccid> yes i am a buckethead fan :o
[04:12] <buckethead> I've got this huge head.. too bad nothing is in it.
[04:12] <keplenk> I only have 1 monitor.  The model of my monitor is Dell/Trinitron UltraScan P780 / videocard is Geforce 4200ti 4x AGP 128mb
[04:12] <buckethead> Heres a crazy question.. How do I print from Kubuntu to smb? I can see the printer on the server with smbclient but I can't add the printer?
[04:13]  * Tw|sT patiently waits for Gparted to finish it's jobs.
[04:13] <Tw|sT> gotta love using linux based tools to fix Windows servers
[04:13] <Tw|sT> heh
[04:14] <flaccid> keplenk: ok
[04:14] <flaccid> buckethead: why can you not add the printer? what is the error
[04:15] <Tw|sT> buckethead: which particular OS is hosting the SMB printer?
[04:16] <flaccid> keplenk: i'd say our issue is like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/111894 and that being said, i'll edit the xorg.conf for you manually.  which resolution you need?
[04:16] <DeFi> kde4 is... noisy!!!
[04:17] <flaccid> keplenk: as per http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/p780/En/spec.htm i'd probably go VESA, 1280 x 1024	 80.0	 75.0	 135.0	
[04:17] <flaccid> +/+
[04:18] <buckethead> Never mind. When setting the IP address to .192 one should not spell it .129.
[04:18] <buckethead> That tends to fail.
[04:18] <flaccid> hehe
[04:22] <keplenk> sorry for the late reply flaccid.  My other PC is in the other room and I have to run and back.  Anyway, the resolution I desire is 1280x1024@60hz or 75
[04:24] <flaccid> ok keplenk
[04:24] <keplenk> :)
[04:35] <flaccid> yay for low bandwidth
[04:38] <mr---t-> what?
[04:39] <flaccid> i got d/c because ran out of bandwidth/hammered the pipe
[04:39] <flaccid> keplenk: backup your existing xorg.conf and try this one: http://pastebin.com/m5d1229cd
[04:41] <flaccid> Jucato: can i bug you for your favourite styles/appearance etc. for kde3 ?
[04:43] <flaccid> let me know how you go keplenk
[04:45] <keplenk> ok, flaccid.  Just got the message.  I'll go to the Kubuntu PC. Be right back ASAP. Thanks again
[04:45] <flaccid> np
[04:55]  * Secutor is back.
[05:13] <Squall> espanol
[05:15] <KLeox> Buenasss
[05:17] <KLeox> Sobre que trata este canal?
[05:18] <flaccid> !es
[05:21] <KLeox> ok
[05:22] <flaccid> keplenk: how you go?
[05:23] <keplenk> I'm still workign on it.  I just had lunch.  By the way, how do you edit files in Kubuntu? I'm used to ubuntu by just typing sudo gedit /blablabla.  When I try this is kubuntu it gives me an error. Ofcourse, I tried/installed kedit instead.
[05:27] <flaccid> keplenk: you do not use sudo for gui apps. in kde you use kdesudo. also the text editor usually preferred is kate. so kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:27] <ahmos> Hi. can i ask what is the most powerful firewall program
[05:27] <flaccid> ahmos: thats debatable. iptables is a respected linux firewall
[05:28] <ahmos> thank u alot ;)
[05:34] <keplenk> ohhh.  Thank you flaccid.  I'm sorry for being such a noob. Anyway, I've tried it.  I've copied the one in pastebin and overwritten the exisitng xorg.conf that I have.  I verified that it was saved and it was.  Rebooted but I still have the 640x480 screen resolution.  I then went to display settings and I still have to option to increase the resolution.
[05:34] <flaccid> keplenk: show new log please in pastebin
[05:34] <flaccid> np ahmos
[05:36] <keplenk> Hmm.  I was wrong.  I rebooted for the 2nd time and now I can't even go to the desktop.  I see the kubuntu splash screen, then goes to a non-gui terminal like text and it is asking me for my password.  However, when I type my password, it just goes to the same thing.
[05:36] <flaccid> keplenk: you can also run krandrtray and see if you can dynamically change the resolution
[05:36] <ahmos> flaccid: sorry but is kmyfirewall is good
[05:37] <ahmos> ?
[05:37] <flaccid> ahmos: yes its a frontend to iptables iirc
[05:37] <ahmos> ok ;) u r so kind
[05:37] <flaccid> keplenk: goto ctrl+alt+f2 and login and then cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the problem
[05:37] <flaccid> ahmos: coolio
[05:37] <flaccid> !u | ahmos
[05:39] <ahmos> ok you are so kind :D
[05:41] <keplenk> @flaccid: cat says that Fatal server error: no screens found then a bunch of other information.  I'm just going to restore my backedup xorg.conf
[05:42] <flaccid> keplenk: you need to read above that to see why it has no screens found. if you do that we can fix up the problem
[05:43] <flaccid> restoring to your old xorg.conf is not going to fix this EDID problem. at all...
[05:43] <keplenk> ahhh ok.  Is there a way to save that information in a text file?  How can I do that?
[05:44] <flaccid> keplenk: its already in a text file :)
[05:45] <keplenk> hahaha. OMG .. where can I get that? lol
[05:45] <flaccid> keplenk: its /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:46] <flaccid> keplenk: if you have the universe repos enabled you could do this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:46] <keplenk> alright.  Let me just grab that.  Hold on please.
[05:46] <flaccid> np keplenk. if we just put some effort in here we could come out winners
[05:46] <flaccid> i've also been known to do typos..
[05:50] <jwlinson> hey all
[05:50] <flaccid> !hi
[05:56] <scott_> I've got a question about KDE4 integration on Kubuntu.
[05:56] <flaccid> !kde4 | scott_
[05:57] <scott_> thank you, I've been thinking of installing alongside my 3.5, but I was wondering, when 4.1 is finalized, will kubuntu automatically update to it
[05:58] <flaccid> scott_: wrong channel to ask see above
[05:59] <scott_> oh thanks you can tell I'm a newb
[06:00] <flaccid> np
[06:03] <keplenk> hey flaccid, sorry for the delay.  Here is my Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/d691629a5
[06:03] <flaccid> thanks
[06:05] <flaccid> keplenk: do you know how to use a cli text editor like pico or joe?
[06:06] <keplenk> I'm sorry but I don't.  If it is easy.  I can learn it right away
[06:09] <flaccid> keplenk: run this sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:10] <keplenk> ok
[06:10] <flaccid> then goto the bottom of the file with the arrows and put a blank line at the bottom. close and save by using ctrl+x. once that is done run sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart . if it fails to again. then edit it again and add an EndSection to the bottom of the file
[06:23] <keplenk> hi flaccid, what if there is already an exisiting blank line in the bottom?  SHould I add another blank line?  Also, there is an "EndSection" in the bottom.  SHould i put EndSection, then a blank line, then Endsection again?  I just realized that pico is like nano :)
[06:24] <flaccid> keplenk: yeah pico is from nano. if thats the case add another endsection and just keep 1 blank line at the bottom. i've had this before and i think it must be a bug..
[06:25] <keplenk> ahh alright.  Let me try it.  I'll let you know :)  Hope this works.  I have to go to work soon :(  But its ok, I can still come back
[06:25] <flaccid> but once the config file can be parsed you have a good chance of the xorg.conf being right and if not we can look at the error/warning if there is one
[06:25] <flaccid> cool
[06:34] <keplenk> hey flaccid.  It still didn't work.  I have to go to work now.  THanks for your great help! I really apprciate it a lot.  I hope you'll still be here later.  I got a feeling, were almost there. :)  Thanks again
[06:34] <flaccid> keplenk: yeah i should be here then cya then
[06:34] <flaccid> you could quickly check log now :p
[06:35] <keplenk> :) yeah .. before I go, ill do that .. ill actually save the log file for later
[06:35] <keplenk> :)
[06:35] <keplenk> bye
[06:37] <bob3213243_> Okay, I have yet to have someone help with me setting up accessing my my ubuntu box from windows vista.
[06:37] <flaccid> bob3213243_: i did help you already. whats the problem?
[06:37] <flaccid> [12:42] <flaccid> bob3213243_: the secure way is to install openssh-server on the ubuntu box and use WinSCP in windows. all you do is allow/forward port 22 from your router/firewall to the ubuntu box
[06:39] <bob3213243_> I am trying to find a super clean and simple way to connect to that computer. I was able to connect with putty and VNC viewer without an issue but it's too complicated to be usable for the people I am setting it up for.
[06:41] <flaccid> bob3213243_: the above is a simple way. if you have the ssh server set up (which requires 1 command, but looks like you have done it already). WinSCP is extremely easy.
[06:42] <bob3213243_> okay let me give that a shot. the PuTTy/vnc work around is pretty messy.
[06:43] <flaccid> yeah this is the right way to do it securely over the internet without the need for using smb/samba over VPN..
[06:50] <Squall> hola
[06:50] <Squall> hay alguien
[06:50] <Squall> ??
[06:51] <genii> !es | Squall
[07:00] <nxvl> hi
[07:00] <nxvl> someone aroung?
[07:00] <nxvl> around
[07:01] <nxvl> i'm having a problem with kdenlive
[07:01] <nxvl> i can't run it
[07:01] <nxvl> it says: Unable to start Dr. Konqi
[07:01] <flaccid> !enter | nxvl
[07:02] <nxvl> when someone report problem to me i prefer multiple lines questions than one bug block
[07:02] <nxvl> :D
[07:02] <nxvl> problems*
[07:03] <flaccid> nxvl: unfortunately its not about your preferences
[07:03] <flaccid> nxvl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenlive/+bug/223260
[07:03] <nxvl> nope
[07:04] <nxvl> Bug #243167
[07:08] <flaccid> nope?
[07:08] <flaccid> well either way it appears to be a bug right?
[07:08] <nxvl> yep
[07:09] <nxvl> as well as Bug #232167
[07:09] <flaccid> joyful :(
[07:29] <DamienG> Can anyone tell me the name of a good video editing program?
[07:34] <nirupama> hi all
[07:34] <nirupama> have a doubt on ubuntu working on hp comapq
[07:34] <nirupama> my system does not shutdown
[07:39] <genii> nirupama: Is it an older machine?
[07:40] <genii> Some bios require te kernel option of acpi=force to make them turn off properly
[07:43] <nirupama> genii, no
[07:43] <nirupama> a new one
[07:44] <nirupama> where apm is not available
[07:44] <genii> nirupama: What model please
[07:44] <nirupama> genii, hp compaq dc7800p convertable minitower
[07:47] <Assurbanipal> goodmorning guys
[07:48] <Assurbanipal> i have problems installing oxygen openoffice... can someone plz help me?
[07:48] <absbs> what is the difference between kubuntu and kubuntu remix?
[07:49] <Assurbanipal> absbs, the version of KDE on it
[07:49] <absbs> is the remix the latest one?
[07:50] <absbs> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[07:50] <Assurbanipal> absbs, the remix carries newer kde version (4.0)
[07:50] <absbs> ahh ok
[07:50] <absbs> great thanks
[07:50] <Assurbanipal> absbs, no prob
[07:50] <Assurbanipal> i have problems installing oxygen openoffice... can someone plz help me?
[07:50] <absbs> if i have an imac do i use 64bit AMD and Intel computers or standard personal computer
[07:51] <nirupama> genii, ?
[07:51] <nirupama> genii, any help
[07:51] <genii> nirupama: Still looking
[07:52] <nirupama> genii, ok
[07:55] <Assurbanipal> i have problems installing oxygen openoffice... can someone plz help me?
[07:57] <genii> nirupama: I am finding a reference to kernel option   pci=nommconf         specifically regarding that model on the page http://scientificlinux.mirror.ac.za/52/x86_64/SL.documentation/RELEASE-NOTES-U2-x86_64-en.html
[08:01] <se7en> someone know what the problem here is irssi:warning SSL handshake failed: unknown protocol
[08:02] <flaccid> what did google say se7en?
[08:02] <Assurbanipal> i have problems installing oxygen openoffice... can someone plz help me?
[08:02] <se7en> not much flaccid
[08:04] <flaccid> http://forums.unrealircd.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5487 se7en could be server problem with the 443 port/tls config
[08:08] <genii> Assurbanipal: Are you using the .deb file from their sourceforge page?
[08:10] <Assurbanipal> genii, yes.... download them all.then i trieed to install the deb files but got an error
[08:10] <Assurbanipal> it said it was conflicting with openoffice
[08:10] <Assurbanipal> so i removed all openoffice files ...
[08:10] <Assurbanipal> and did the install
[08:11] <genii> Assurbanipal: And then some other more interesting error?
[08:11] <Assurbanipal> got no errors.. but when it finished nothing seemed to be installed on my system
[08:11] <Assurbanipal> the office folder was empty
[08:11] <Assurbanipal> and the autoupdater was notifying me to do an update on the openoffice files
[08:12] <Assurbanipal> i did it... and now i got the oo 2.4 that i had before... with a crappy look...
[08:12] <Assurbanipal> it looks like **
[08:12] <Assurbanipal> there are no icons on the toolbars, only text...
[08:12] <Assurbanipal> don't know what to do..
[08:12] <flaccid> !enter | Assurbanipal
[08:13] <Assurbanipal> sorry guys
[08:13] <genii> Assurbanipal: When you use a non-standard package that you don't want to get overwritten, you should use with it apt pinning to make sure it stays
[08:13] <genii> !pinning
[08:14] <Assurbanipal> ok.... but what should i do now?
[08:15] <nirupama> genii, any luck
[08:15] <Assurbanipal> i don't know what happened with the oxygen instalation... and the oo2.4 looks ugly and not ergonomical this way it is now..
[08:16] <genii> Assurbanipal: I would first ask yourself if the change of appearance in OpenOffice is worth the headache of installing a nonstandard package ;)  But if you are stubborn and wish to proceed, uninstall again OO from standard repo, install the oxygen one, then use the apt pinning method the bot describes to make sure it doesn't get overwritten by updates.
[08:17] <genii> nirupama: Documentation on that model of cimputer together with linux seems extremely sparse to come by
[08:17] <Assurbanipal> but after i installed oxygen nothing worked...
[08:17] <nirupama> genii, ok
[08:17] <nirupama> genii, I see fedora is working
[08:17] <Assurbanipal> will it be the same again?
[08:17] <nirupama> genii, why not ubuntu
[08:18] <genii> nirupama: No idea
[08:18] <Assurbanipal> and i think there are lot of improvements of oo in oxygen (beter ms 0ffice compability, faster and more)
[08:18] <genii> nirupama: Although RedHat has some insider information on systems which use it's OS on their servers, so perhaps thats why
[08:19] <nirupama> genii, I installed debian and on top of that i installed fc7 kernel
[08:20] <nirupama> genii, which worked without any issues and the system got shutdown
[08:20] <genii> Assurbanipal: Remember that the menu items which you find in (K)ubuntu after installing something are part of the packages. Non-standard package may not make one and you occasionally have to run the thing from cli
[08:21] <Assurbanipal> genii, cli? what is that?
[08:21] <genii> Assurbanipal: cli=command line
[08:21] <ahmed> hey guys, I am having a problem with kdesudo after compiling and installing kde from svn .. is this expected?
[08:22] <Assurbanipal> genii, i will go through uninstalling oo and trying to install oxygen with the pinning thing... will u be here in case i face more probs?
[08:22] <genii> Assurbanipal: Also please remember that installing packages which are not included in the standard repositories means that no one here is obligated to assist you when you have difficulties with them
[08:23] <genii> Assurbanipal: I'll be here another hour or so
[08:24] <Assurbanipal> genii, i understand that...i thank u for all your effort!
[08:25] <genii> nirupama: I'm finding two kernel options in reference to this model of HP...         the one I mentioned already which is pci-nommconf      and also iommu=calgary        which apparently has something to do with acpi which seems to be at issue here
[08:25] <Assurbanipal> genii, i think i will just install the standard oo... i hope it will be working this time
[08:26] <nirupama> genii, so what should be done
[08:26] <genii> Assurbanipal: You may want to use the --purge option when removing a package so that it's configuration files also get removed. This is useful if it was messed up somehow and you need to reinstall it
[08:26] <Assurbanipal> ok!!
[08:27] <genii> nirupama: You could experiment to see if either or both of these kernel options works to resolve your shutdown issue by putting them in the kernel load line of grub
[08:28] <nirupama> genii, let me check
[08:30] <Assurbanipal> genii, it didn't work... i still get that old Java-like look
[08:31] <genii> Assurbanipal: Remember that openoffice normally is not a QT app but a GTK one as well
[08:32] <Assurbanipal> genii, how can i get back to the original style of oo?
[08:36] <genii> Assurbanipal: I would suggest to:  sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org           then also remove ~/.openoffice*             then to reinstall openoffice.org
[08:36] <nicobrain> good morning
[08:37] <genii> Assurbanipal: openoffice.org-kde                 probably can't hurt as well
[08:38] <nicobrain> i have a fresh install of kubuntu and the shortcuts in konquerors leftside are away, but only in the user-account
[08:38] <ubuntu_> ciao
[08:38] <nicobrain> any idea why?
[08:38] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:39] <genii> !hi | ubuntu_
[08:39] <ubuntu_> I have a problem with grub, i haven't initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic into /boot
[08:40] <nicobrain> has nobody an idea?
[08:40] <Assurbanipal> genii, how do i remove ~/.openoffice* ?
[08:40] <ubuntu_> so when I restart pc I don't see anything and kubuntu doesn't start
[08:41] <ubuntu_> how must I do?
[08:41] <genii> Assurbanipal:  rm -R ~/.openoffice*         should do it
[08:41] <bobJR> i know this is a offtopic question but ive been tryin to go to kde look and deviant art and can't find a wallpaper thats good any other good ideas
[08:41] <nirupama> genii, it worked :)
[08:42] <pritam> hi folks
[08:42] <pritam> can anyone help me with this error pls
[08:42] <nicobrain> bobJR: http://deviantart.com
[08:42] <genii> ubuntu_: At grub load hit ESC then choose the last kernel before that. Then if it boots successfully reinstall the linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic  which should regenerate the initrd
[08:42] <bobJR> thanks
[08:42] <genii> nirupama: Good :) Glad to have assisted
[08:43] <pritam> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[08:43] <pritam> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:43] <nicobrain> the shortcuts in konquerors leftside are away
[08:44] <ubuntu_> thanks genii
[08:44] <pritam> I am using Kununtu 6.06 LTS Release Dapper Drake
[08:44] <ubuntu_> :)
[08:44] <ubuntu_> I'll do it
[08:44] <Assurbanipal> genii, thanks man, i m back to its original view but only after installing openoffice.org-kde.
[08:45] <genii> nicobrain: View..Split View   then choose left/right or top/bottom
[08:45] <genii> Assurbanipal: Good :)
[08:45] <Assurbanipal> genii, but i cannot understand why all this happens
[08:45] <nicobrain> genii: no, the navigation on the left side is away
[08:45] <genii> Assurbanipal: QT apps are for KDE and GTK apps are for Gnome... OO is natively a GTK app so it looks ugly normally in KDE without some messing around
[08:46] <Assurbanipal> genii, i meant with the oxygen installation
[08:47] <genii> Assurbanipal: The deb file was for a Gnome install, since as I have stated a few time OO is natively a GTK app. If you had no Gnome install no menu itms would ever appear for you. And if run from command then look ugly since using the GTK and not KDE styles
[08:48] <genii> pritam: And did you as suggested run: sudo apt-get update         ?
[08:48] <Assurbanipal> genii, i c.. so there is no possible for it to run smoothly in KDE.
[08:49] <genii> Assurbanipal: If the openoffice.org-kde works with it, maybe. Otherwise just regular Ubuntu
[08:50] <pritam> ?
[08:50] <genii> nicobrain: Did you do something odd like run: sudo konqueror            while in the regular users account?
[08:51] <genii> pritam:You said, in part the error told you: "[03:43] <pritam> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems"           So... di you follow it's suggestion and execute from Konsole the command: sudo apt-get update                   to update it's list of packages etc?
[08:52] <nicobrain> genii: in su-mode the navigation is complete....its only in user account
[08:52] <jussio1> morning jono
[08:53] <genii> nicobrain: If you executed even once sudo konqueror    or else ran it as root from su for instance within the users directory then that explains it.
[08:53] <nicobrain> genii: oh....sry, my english is very bad.... :D what mean you?
[08:53] <jono> hey
[08:53] <nicobrain> genii: screenshot in normal user account: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5205/bildschirmphoto1kx6.png
[08:55] <genii> nicobrain: sudo chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) `ls -a ~/`
[08:56] <genii> pritam: Any joy yet?
[08:57] <nicobrain> genii: i get in the console only an ">" and its waiting for more?
[08:57] <genii> nicobrain: Thats fine. Now see if konqueror runs as expected as normal user
[08:57] <ahmed> guys: I have a question .. I have two different kde installations .. I want a way to switch between them quickly .. how can I do that?
[08:57] <flaccid> ahmed: session from kdm
[08:58]  * genii hands flaccid a coffee
[08:58] <nicobrain> genii: you mean i must start konqueror over the console? it doesnt start
[08:58] <ahmed> flaccid: but now I have the desktop in front of me .. how can I return to kdm?
[08:58] <flaccid> ta
[08:58] <flaccid> ahmed: logout.
[08:58] <nicobrain> genii: no error msg.....nothing
[08:58] <genii> nicobrain: No, start it from gui way as it should normally be started
[08:59] <nicobrain> genii: over the gui i cant start that
[08:59] <ahmed> flaccid: this is the problem .. it seems that logout is broken .. it gives me a black screen, sometimes strange flashy screen with colors and waits for some minutes before restarting
[08:59] <genii> nicobrain: no messages when executing a command on command-line is A GOOD THING and not to be worried over
[08:59] <genii> !doesnothing
[08:59] <genii> Hmm
[09:00] <flaccid> ahmed: thats quite possibly one of the nasty bugs that exist. not much you can do. i have to reboot up to 5 times a day
[09:00] <nicobrain> genii: stop........ :D.....it fix it :D :D
[09:00] <ubuntu_> sorry, I'm again here :S
[09:00] <ahmed> flaccid: a kubuntu issue you mean?
[09:00] <nicobrain> genii: thanks ;)
[09:00] <flaccid> ahmed: they don't actually know what exactly is causing it as people have this issue on different set of variables
[09:00] <genii> nicobrain: Good. Now NEVER again do sudo for graphical apps, only kdesu
[09:01] <nicobrain> genii: that was the error? ok, thanks, have a nice day ;)
[09:01] <genii> nicobrain: You too :)
[09:01] <h2i> hey, after installing knights and the crafty engine using adept, knights doesn't recognize crafty
[09:02] <h2i> can someone please help
[09:02] <ahmed> genii: in fact kdesu is broken on kde 4.1 latest svn
[09:03] <genii> ahmed: By chance, are you using a kvm switch on the monitor?
[09:03] <ahmed> genii: or is that kdesudo I am not sure
[09:03] <genii> kdesudo
[09:03] <genii> kdesu is still fine
[09:03] <h2i> if someone knows where the bug pages lie for it, that would be helpful
[09:03] <ahmed> genii: what is a kvm switch?
[09:03] <genii> ahmed: A kvm switch is a box you plug for instance two computers in so they can share a monitor/keyboard/mouse
[09:04] <ubuntu_> I have restarted pc but I can't press ESC in grub because I see flashing screen, however I have reinstalled linux-image so now I have initrd into /boot
[09:04] <ahmed> genii: no I don't have such an arrangement .. but kdesudo says I entered wrong password in spite of me entering the correct one!!
[09:05] <ubuntu_> but kubuntu doesn't start because grub doesn't work
[09:05] <flaccid> ahmed: are you using your own user password? its not the root account if thats what you are trying. you can also check /var/log/auth.log for the problem
[09:06] <ahmed> flaccid: I though that ubuntu has no 'root' account .. and that it uses 'sudo' correct?
[09:06] <flaccid> yep correct. was just checking...
[09:07] <ahmed> flaccid: so I expect that when kdesudo appears to me, I enter my user password .. as normal .. it is mostly working in kde 4.1 beta 2 but with the other kde-svn session it does not
[09:08] <genii> ubuntu_: Good :)
[09:08] <flaccid> perhaps its a bug
[09:09] <ahmed> flaccid: in fact, it says please enter root's password, instead of enter your password .. however this is mind-boggling knowing the fact that there is no root password in ubuntu!!
[09:10] <ubuntu_> so genii how can I do?
[09:10] <flaccid> ahmed: use kdesudo not kdesu maybe they made kdesu do a real su..
[09:10] <flaccid> hmm even though man kdesu says otherwise hmm
[09:11] <genii> ubuntu_: You are booted now to a previous kernel?
[09:11] <ahmed> flaccid: I can't file a bug report because it is the latest kde from svn compiled by me so maybe some stuff freaked out ;
[09:13] <flaccid> ahmed: ah this is also the wrong channel for anything kde4..
[09:14] <pritam> is this a channel to seek help regarding Kubuntu ?
[09:14] <ubuntu_> can I past menu.lst? (I am newbe)
[09:14] <ahmed> flaccid: well at #kde they said contact #kubuntu .. because kdesudo is ubuntu-specific :D
[09:14] <ahmed> pritam: yes
[09:15] <pritam> thank you
[09:16] <pritam> my issue is that whenever i try to do  apt-get install -f gives me error that says E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.E: Unable to correct dependencies
[09:16] <flaccid> ahmed: yeah the right channel is likely #kubuntu-kde4 :) not here which is kde3 until ibex released
[09:16] <ubuntu_> this is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/27232/
[09:16] <pritam> i searched for this error mssg on google and tried different work arounds but nothign seem to solve this
[09:16] <ubuntu_> is it true?
[09:17] <ahmed> flaccid: oh thanks ;)
[09:17] <flaccid> np
[09:17] <genii> pritam: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a                             firstly
[09:19] <pritam> i tried this and gives me the following errors, Errors were encountered while processing:libgcc1 ibwxgtk2.4-python libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libstdc++6
[09:22] <azer_> hi guys
[09:23] <azer_> how can i change default file browser on kubuntu desktop?
[09:23] <genii> pritam: try a: sudo apt-get update                       first then again with: sudo dpkg --configure -a             and see if same error or no
[09:23] <azer_> i want to use konqueror as default file browser
[09:23] <pritam> ok let me try
[09:23] <flaccid> azer_: do it in system settings | default applications | file assocations on a file extension basis.
[09:24] <sbucat> hello is ther some way to set oss volume ?
[09:24] <sbucat> because kmix doesn't manage oss mix
[09:25] <azer_> flaccid: thank you
[09:25] <flaccid> np
 I tried "sudo apt-get update" as per your suggestion and i get these errors, W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv, W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release: Unknown error executing gpgv W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release: Unknown error executing g
[09:26] <pritam> get update to correct these problems.
[09:27] <genii> pritam: I'd suggest using a different repository for the time being.
[09:29] <pritam> ?
[09:30] <Brave> Hi
[09:34] <genii> pritam: For instance to change in.archive.ubuntu.com to another repository name, since the one in India may be experiencing problems right now
[09:34] <azer_> I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu hardy. i loved kde3 but, firefox doesn't open. i killed all firefox processes but it doesn't solve the problem
[09:35] <flaccid> azer_: run it from konsole and report the output/errors
[09:38] <azer_> flaccid: i try to run, it just waits on console, doesn't print any text..
[09:47] <genii> azer_: If you manually killed the firefox processes, you may also want to rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock
[09:49] <azer_> genii: finally i open it but after waiting 10 minutes and it can't use it because it's so slow..
[09:51] <flaccid> azer_: thats no good
[09:51] <Simeon_H> my Intel 82810E is giving broken graphics with 3d programs on hardy
[09:52] <azer_> flaccid: how can i solve this?
[09:52] <genii> Likely if you got to Kubuntu from regular ubuntu it is loading all the gtk libraries it requires to run firefox.
[09:52] <flaccid> azer_: i got no idea what the problem could be
 pritam: For instance to change in.archive.ubuntu.com to another repository name, since the one in India may be experiencing problems right now. how do i do this
[09:53] <Simeon_H> anyone got any ideas how to fix that?
[09:56] <genii> pritam: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list             to edit the list of repositories. Change the "in" part of "in.archive.ubuntu.com" in all instances there to some other country code that may be near you, or else just change "in.archive.ubuntu.com" to only "archive.ubuntu.com"
[09:57] <genii> Simeon_H: Is it using the driver named "intel" or the driver named "i810" ?
[09:57] <Simeon_H> i810
[10:01] <genii> Simeon_H: I would suggest to use the other and see if any improvement
[10:01] <flaccid> !fixres | Simeon_H intel still has a lot of issues too
[10:10] <txMike> hi all. how do I register my nick?
[10:13] <genii> !register | txMike
[10:14] <ubuntu_> hi...
[10:15]  * genii sips his coffee
[10:15] <ubuntu_> I don't succeeded in doing grub
[10:16] <ubuntu_> :(
[10:17]  * genii hands Jucato a coffee
[10:17] <ubuntu_> when I reboot system I have flash screen and I can't choose anything
[10:17] <Jucato> um.. thanks :)
[10:17] <txMike> got it
[10:17] <ubuntu_> I think it is a menu.lst problem
[10:18] <genii> ubuntu_: No, if there is no initrd for the kernel then the problem is not in the menu.lst file, but in the fact that initrd does not exist
[10:18] <genii> ubuntu_: Are you now on the live cd?
[10:18] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:19] <ubuntu_> now I'm mounting partition
[10:19] <genii> ubuntu_: OK. What directory is it mounted to?
[10:19] <ubuntu_> my kubuntu installation
[10:20] <ubuntu_> ok! I do it
[10:21]  * genii washes down some Advils with his coffee
[10:21] <ubuntu_> what can I do to understand to you the problem?
[10:22] <genii> ubuntu_: I understand already the problem. The difficulty is in how to diret you in repairing it
[10:23] <ubuntu_> before I have done apt-get install linux-2.6 ... - generic and so I have got initrd in /boot
[10:24] <ubuntu_> this is ls /boot -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27240/
[10:26] <ubuntu_> and this is my menu.lst -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27241/
[10:29] <genii> ubuntu_: I would suggest that mounting the old / and if separate partition also the old /boot someplace to livecd filesystem, then to prepare for chroot there, then chroot there and issue the update-grub command
[10:30] <snypermann> where are the bookmarks in ubuntu?
[10:30] <genii> snypermann: The firefox bookmarks?
[10:30] <snypermann> yep
[10:31] <snypermann> place, folder
[10:31] <genii> snypermann: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[10:31] <ubuntu_> upgate-grub doesn't rewrite my menu.lst?
[10:32] <snypermann> is it in 1 file? or are there many files?
[10:32] <genii> ubuntu_: Yes, it DOES rewrite the menu.lst. Thats the point of it
[10:32] <genii> snypermann: 1 file as an html
[10:32] <snypermann> genii: thanks
[10:32] <genii> snypermann: np
[10:33] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:33] <snypermann> genii: what is ~?
[10:33] <ubuntu_> now I'm rebooting system
[10:33] <ubuntu_> I hope to solve this problem :s
[10:34] <genii> snypermann: np=No Problem
[10:34] <ubuntu_> thanks for all genii
[10:34] <genii> snypermann: Sorry... ~   means the path to your home directory, wherever that is
[10:35] <snypermann> genii: no i meen this: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html
[10:36] <snypermann> genii: is ~ the root?
[10:36] <snypermann> ah
[10:36] <snypermann> ok
[10:36] <genii> snypermann: ~ gets substituted by whatever your home directory is. So username of "user" then gets ~ replaced by:  /home/user
[10:36] <snypermann> genii: thanks
[10:47] <ubuntu_> nothing
[10:47] <ubuntu_> :(
[10:47] <ubuntu_> perhaps it is resoltion problem?
[10:48] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: what is the problem?
[10:49] <ubuntu_> when I reboot system I can't access to my kubuntu because I have a problem with grub
[10:50] <ubuntu_> I have a flash screen and I can't choose nothing :(
[10:52] <JoshOvki> ok, and you have run  sudo update-grub   ?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:52] <JoshOvki> ok, had you changed anything in your grub settings?
[10:53] <ubuntu_> no, If you want I can past it, ok?
[10:53] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: yeh can you pastebin it for me
[10:54] <ubuntu_> ok one moment so I mount partition
[10:55] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27244/
[10:56] <ubuntu_> ok it is menu.lst
[10:57] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: but a    #    next to    splashimage=(hd0,5)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
[10:58] <wesley> !adeptfix
[10:59] <ubuntu_> Should I delete this row?
[10:59] <ubuntu_> and after update-grub?
[10:59] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: i would just comment it out for now
[10:59] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:00] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: yeh, run update-grub and then see if anything changed in the file
[11:00] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:01] <ubuntu_> So now should I reboot system?
[11:01] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_:  yes :) hopefully it will work
[11:01] <sbucat> oss emulation ?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> :s :d thanks
[11:02] <sbucat> anyone knows this silly problem?
[11:02] <sbucat> kmix doesn't manage oss -.-''
 pritam: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list             to edit the list of repositories. Change the "in" part of "in.archive.ubuntu.com" in all instances there to some other country code that may be near you, or else just change "in.archive.ubuntu.com" to only "archive.ubuntu.com" I tried following your suggestion but i keep geting this message when i save the changes to the sources.list file which reads "The document could not be saved, as i
[11:04] <pritam> file:///etc/apt/sources.list."  "Check that you have write access to file or that enough disk space is available"
[11:04] <pritam> how can i be able to save the file
[11:05] <genii> pritam: the "kdesu" part of the instruction I gave was somewhat important in this regard as it opens up the editor kate with admin rights so that it can save to there

[11:06] <genii> pritam: the "kdesu" part of the instruction I gave was somewhat important in this regard as it opens up the editor kate with admin rights so that it can save to there
[11:07] <genii> eg: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list                  <-- is all one command there
[11:08]  * djwisdom thinks genii is really exhibiting the true spirit of volunteer effort. helpdesk support pro bono
[11:09] <genii> djwisdom: I work for coffee ;)
[11:10]  * djwisdom thinks: why am i not surprised with that? :P
[11:10]  * JoshOvki hopes he hasnt broken ubuntu_  grub
[11:10] <pritam> hey <genii> why do u think i must be getting this error when editing the sources.list "Check that you have write access to file or that enough disk space is available"
[11:10] <pritam> i am logged in as root
[11:11] <genii> pritam: If on as root then likely the hd is running out of room. What does command:   df -h     report?
[11:12] <genii> (as % of disk space used there)
[11:14] <pritam> the free discspace shows 49% in use
[11:14] <ubuntu_> no it didn't work
[11:14] <ubuntu_> :(
[11:15] <JoshOvki> pritam: and your 100% sure your root?
[11:15] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_:  ok in that case, i expect it has something to do with your raid
[11:16] <JoshOvki> pritam: and your 100% sure your root?
[11:16] <pritam> yeah
[11:16] <genii> pritam: Close kate then, and try purely from command line. So if on as root (eg you have a # next to your command prompt) then:   nano /etc/apt/sources.list             and change it that way. When done ctrl-x then Y when prompted to save, then Enter when asked for filename to save as.
[11:17] <ubuntu_> mmm I don't think this is the problem
[11:18] <genii> ubuntu_: Remember that the initrd must contain the raid drivers your kernel needs if your / is on a raided system, which your menu.lst indicates that this is the case
[11:19] <ubuntu_> ok I have already installed Kubuntu on raid and I had have no problem with grub...
[11:19] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: is that the full menu.lst  you pastebinned?
[11:19] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:20] <ubuntu_> I think the probleme is there
[11:20] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: and me, you seem to be missing a part from the top!
[11:21] <ocs> hi. i can't see anymore the bar on the bottom ... what should i do in order to restore it ?
[11:21] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27251/
[11:22] <JoshOvki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27252/
[11:22] <JoshOvki> change it to that
[11:23] <ubuntu_> ok one moment
[11:25] <ocs>  I don't see anymore the bar (with applications ) on the bottom of the screen. how can i restore it? thnks
[11:25] <ubuntu_> I should do update-grub, is it true?
[11:25] <JoshOvki> yup
[11:26] <genii> No, manually editing the menu.lst does there what update-grub does automatically
[11:26] <JoshOvki> acctualy, im not sure if its necisery
[11:26] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:26] <ubuntu_> I didn't do it...now I reboot and I'll hope!
[11:26] <ubuntu_> ok?
[11:27] <JoshOvki> yes
[11:27] <JoshOvki> goodluck
[11:27]  * genii hands out more coffee and Advils
[11:28] <kunixos> what's a good ogg player?
[11:28]  * djwisdom watching clock until ubuntu_ gets back on channel...
[11:28] <JoshOvki> djwisdom: aprox 14mins
[11:29] <RancidZA> anyone been having problems with 8.04 (KDE3) and the openGL screensavers?
[11:30] <RancidZA> mine seems to crash every now and again when i try unlock from the ss
 i tried changing the the URL in the sources list file to archive,ubuntu and did sudo apt-get update but still i keep getting the same error
[11:34] <pritam> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[11:34] <pritam> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:34] <pritam> libgcc1: Depends: gcc-4.1-base (= 4.1.1-21) but it is not installable
[11:34] <flaccid> pritam: try going to Adept | manage repos and disabled all the repos which are enabled and then apply, then go back to manage repos and enabled them again (this will refresh the keys)
[11:34] <pritam> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.5 is installed
[11:35] <flaccid> !pastebin | pritam
[11:35] <pritam> sure i will try this
[11:35] <flaccid> pritam: sorry i mean disabled them, apply then go back enabled them again, apply.
[11:35] <flaccid> cool
[11:36] <ubuntu_> ok now the problem is another (next hop! :D): it doesn't select right device...
[11:38] <JoshOvki> ubuntu what do you want it defaulting to?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[11:38] <JoshOvki> whats he defaulting to now?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> vista is installed only for game :D
[11:39] <JoshOvki> sp/he/it
[11:39] <guest23232> can anyone tell me how kubuntu is a better OS instead of ubuntu for lower spec PCs
[11:39] <ubuntu_> excuse me but I don't understand
[11:39] <genii> pritam: The url should be:    archive.ubuntu.com            and not archive,ubuntu
[11:40] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: what is it currently going to by default?
[11:41] <ubuntu_> dev/mapper/isw....Raid06 here there is /
[11:41] <JoshOvki> you said it doesnt select the right device, im guessing you mean it doesnt go to the right OS?
[11:41] <ubuntu_> dev/mapper/isw....Raid05 here there is swap
[11:41] <ubuntu_> dev/mapper/isw....Raid01 here there is vista
[11:42] <ubuntu_> these are what did you know?
[11:43] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: what do you mean " it doesn't select right device..." because i think i have my wires crossed
[11:44] <pritam> yeah <genii> i have changed the url to be archive.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <pritam> i tried the work around suggested by <flacid> but i still keep getting this message which i have pasted in the pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu.com/27254/
[11:44] <ubuntu_> it says: "reboot and select proper boot device..."
[11:45] <pritam> i am struggling since past one week since i installed kubuntu
[11:45] <pritam> :(
[11:47] <ubuntu_> excure but my english is very bad and I'm a beginner of linux :s I'm a disaster man :D
[11:47] <JoshOvki> ubuntu_: interesting, run   sudo update-grub    again see if that will correct it
[11:48] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27255/
[11:49] <JoshOvki> ive never installed linux with a raid, so im not 100% on how it identifys the device
[11:49] <flaccid> !raid
[11:50] <ubuntu_> ok I had to mapped raid with dmraid
[11:50] <ubuntu_> so I have partition in dev/mapper/isw...
[11:51] <genii> pritam: Please pastebin the contents of your sources.list file
[11:51] <ubuntu_> for grub I had to mapped device(hd0) to dev/mapper/isw...Raid06
[11:51] <pritam> one moment pls <genii>
[11:52] <ubuntu_> I have followed these how to
[11:52] <ubuntu_> expecially FakeRaidHowto
 the contents of the sources.list file are pasted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/27256/
[11:54] <genii> pritam: Reading
 thanx for your patience !!
[11:54] <pritam> :D
[11:55] <SPhcT> hei
[11:55] <ubuntu_> in menu.lst is written
[11:55] <ubuntu_> # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
[11:55] <ubuntu_> # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
[11:55] <SPhcT> how i can instal skype on kubuntu?
 Add this deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free  to the sources.list in adept package manager
[11:57] <pritam> do  apt-get update
[11:57] <ubuntu_> I have delete this row...does it work or isn't it the problem?
[11:57] <genii> pritam: For now please put a # at beginning of line 1 to comment it out and then remove the dapper-backports from lines 30 and 31. Then save and try again the apt-get update
[11:57] <pritam> you will find skype in the package list , choose to install , but i cannot assure that skype will work coz it hasn;t worked for me, i am able to install it , it also shows up in the start-up menu and when u start this the skype icon will try to load for sometime but eventually the application does not start
[11:59] <genii> pritam: Put # in front of lines 30 and 31 that is
[11:59] <pritam> ok
 I did the changes you suggested and then saved the sources.list file and tried to apt-get update and here is what happens http://paste.ubuntu.com/27257/
[12:02] <genii> pritam: Reading
[12:04] <genii> pritam: I'm thinking the persistent gpg error may mean either: Your gpg key on the system is bad/corrupt or the gpgv program itself may have corruption
[12:05] <flaccid> stilll getting same thing after re-enabling repos in adept?
[12:05] <genii> pritam: I would suggest first to try:  apt-get install --reinstall gpgv
[12:05] <pritam> yeah <flacid>
[12:05] <flaccid> dang
[12:06] <SPhcT> pritam what is comand in terminal to add skype?
[12:06] <genii> pritam: If gpsgv can reinstall try update again to see if error remains or change
[12:07] <pritam> sudo apt-get install skype
 i get this message that says E: Couldn't find package gpgv
[12:07] <genii> Hmm
[12:07] <genii> !info gpgv dapper
[12:08] <flaccid> genii: i think that function not work with dat bot
[12:08] <genii> flaccid: Yes, it does :)
[12:08] <flaccid> well it wasn't about 2 weeks ago
[12:08] <genii> !info gpgv feisty
[12:08] <flaccid> hmm
[12:09] <flaccid> ah well thats a good thing
[12:09] <genii> pritam: Looks like gpgv was installed from dapper-backports in your case :/
[12:09] <pritam> should i try this "!info gpgv dapper"
[12:09] <flaccid> !info gpgv-udeb dapper
[12:10] <mooper> Thunderbird is already running, but not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Thunderbird process, or restart your system.
[12:10] <flaccid> ubottu: it doesn't. how about this then? http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/gpgv-udeb
[12:10] <mooper> Im getting this error when I try to start thunderbird. I have just rebooted
[12:10] <pritam> it said "-su: !info: event not found"
[12:10] <genii> pritam: So to un-comment the dapper-backports lines (30 and 31), issue again the apt-get update and then try the apt-get install --reinstall gpgv                 once more
[12:11] <pritam> ok <genii>
[12:11] <flaccid> there is no gpgv in dapper*
[12:12] <flaccid> and i don't know if gpgv-udeb  is the same thing
[12:12] <ubuntu_> no it wasn't a savedefault problem
[12:13] <genii> flaccid: The backported apps don't show as native packages to a distribution in the !info packagename dist       synatx
[12:14] <flaccid> genii: is that the same as packages.ubuntu.com : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gpgv&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
 gave this error again "E: Couldn't find package gpgv"
[12:14] <flaccid> you can search dapper-backports on that and no result returned
[12:14] <ubuntu_> i'm despairing :(
[12:15] <genii> pritam: OK. Try to issue apt-get with a switch that will try to ignore gpg. This is like: apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated
[12:15] <mooper> where can I get thunderbird support?
[12:15] <genii> flaccid: He installed it from someplace onto his dapper box
[12:16] <pritam> even when doing "apt-get update" it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/27259/
[12:16] <genii> pritam: OK. Try to issue apt-get with a switch that will try to ignore gpg. This is like: apt-get update --allow-unauthenticated
[12:16] <genii> pritam: Incidentally when you pop in and out like that is hard to time sending messages :)
[12:16] <kunixos> mooper: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
 trying now
[12:17] <kunixos> i'm converting my mp3 library to ogg and amarok won't recognize the files. what gives?
[12:18] <genii> kunixos: The ogg files or the mp3 files?
[12:18] <kunixos> won't recognize the mp3 files
[12:18] <kunixos> nvm the ogg files
[12:18] <pritam> sorry for my NUB'ness<genii> still the same message
[12:18] <kunixos> sorry late
[12:18] <pritam> :P
[12:18] <ubuntu_> device (hd0) must be to set to / partition o to vista partition?
[12:18] <Githzerai> pritam: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gpgv&searchon=names&suite=dapper&section=all
[12:19] <kunixos> i was using rhythmbox and it was doing the same thing. won't recognize the ogg files i've created
[12:19] <genii> pritam: OK, 1 minute
[12:20] <zeus> zdravo svima
[12:20] <zeus> kako ide :)
[12:22] <flaccid> pritam: where did you get gpgv from?
 i have no idea, this issue has been existent since the week i installed Kubuntu two weeks back, i downloaded an ISO image and installed it and thats it
 should i install the package from the link you suggested
[12:24] <flaccid> pritam: why did you install dapper and not hardy?
[12:24] <genii> pritam: Hmm. What does lsb_release -c      report? Dapper?
[12:25] <flaccid> genii: im thinking that maybe gpgv was in the apt package in dapper so gpgv should be removed hmm
[12:26] <pritam> guy i really think that i made a mistake, i was flattered by the tag Kubuntu rmx
[12:26] <flaccid> actually i take that back
[12:26] <flaccid> pritam: ah you mixed up packages etc.
[12:27] <flaccid> actually do i misunderstand you?
[12:27] <Githzerai> pritam: Link just shows that there actually is that package in dapper repo, so I guess your sources are not well set. You should be able to install it  with command from above.
[12:28] <pritam> yeah <flaccid> i guess so i mixed up
[12:29] <pritam> do you guys suggest that i uninstall and reinstall Kubuntu ?
[12:29] <flaccid> i'm not 100% sure what you have done. pritam can you pastebin this lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep -i gpg; cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <pritam> or try Hardy instead
[12:30] <flaccid> i'll let you know once i inspect that pastebin
[12:30] <genii> pritam: It might be simplest to download the Hardy cd and install from that
[12:30] <flaccid> well what genii suggests is easiest especially if you don't have to backup data
[12:32] <genii> I have a last-ditch effort which is to get new keys manually: gpg - -recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5              then: gpg - -export –armor 40976EAF437D05B5 | apt-key add -
 this is what it reports when i tried your suggestion http://paste.ubuntu.com/27261/
[12:32] <flaccid> pritam: thanks. try genii's suggestion and i'll standby
[12:33] <pritam> thanx for your help flaccid
[12:33] <flaccid> genii has put in more effort etc..
[12:33] <genii> Hmm. Something odd about the sources.list
[12:33] <devilzripper> hi
[12:34] <devilzripper> can somebody help me one second
 i tried this and gives me Codename: Dapper
[12:34] <genii> !ask
[12:34] <genii> pritam: OK, so it is not a case then of mixed-up distribution and sources.list
[12:35] <devilzripper> can someone give me the command to install a program
 i also tried to add the new keys manually
[12:36] <pritam> and i got this mssg  "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."
[12:36] <kalel> ciao
[12:36] <kalel> !it
[12:37] <flaccid> genii: got any idea what? they were re-added so i guess the entries are correct. they look correct i gues..
[12:38] <genii> pritam: At this point I'd say just to install the Hardy distribution. And I say grudgingly since I normally am stubborn about trying to resolve issues
[12:38] <genii> flaccid: I'm outta tricks :)
[12:39] <flaccid> did we search launchpad/google with the error ?
[12:40] <devilzripper> so this question was not question. Can somebody told me as i can install licq
[12:40] <pa11ule1> (rock)
[12:41] <genii> flaccid: Some of the sources.list entries have /dapper with no trailing slash and some have /dapper/ with trailing slash in the url. But it should really not be picky that way
[12:41] <genii> !info licq
[12:42] <genii> devilzripper: Add/Remove programs then search for licq   Then install it
[12:42] <devilzripper> okay
[12:43] <flaccid> hmm yeah. pritam install hardy which is going to help you a lot as well. dapper is old as now and doesn't get non security updates
[12:43] <pritam> ok flaccid
[12:43] <genii> flaccid: Actually it's still supported til 2011 on server
[12:44] <pritam> i was under the impression that dapper was somethingnew
[12:45] <genii> pritam: Dapper is the Ubuntu long-term-support release of June 2006 which is 3 years on desktop version and 5 years on server version
[12:45] <flaccid> genii: with LTS commercial support yeah
[12:45] <Pici> pritam: Dapper was released in 2006.  The Ubuntu version numbers are year.month
[12:46] <genii> pritam: The new long-term-support version of April 2009 codenamed Hardy also has this, 3 years on desktop version and 5 years on server version
[12:46] <flaccid> lts is a disadvantage as it ages for non canonical support users (to which it is its only benefit)
[12:46] <Pici> April 2008 **
[12:46]  * genii blushes
[12:46] <genii> Pici Yes, I got ahead of myself :)
[12:46] <flaccid> there is no practical reason to use dapper unless you do paid support in a commercial environment..
[12:47] <pritam> anywayz thank you genii and flacid for your support
[12:47] <pritam> :D
[12:48] <flaccid> np
[12:48]  * genii works for coffee
[12:48] <flaccid> genii you must be peakin hard now. how many coffees is that?
[12:48] <genii> flaccid: Well it's 7:50am now and I had 9 since midnight
[12:49] <pritam> genii which one do i download from this linkhttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[12:49] <flaccid> dang thats worse than me y0. i had about 6 today in total
[12:50] <pritam> Kubuntu 8.04 - Supported until October 2009
[12:50] <genii> pritam: Actually it's much preferred if you get the cd by torrent if possible
[12:51] <genii> pritam: KDE version of ubuntu has less support than the regular version due to changes happening from kde3 to kde4
[12:51] <genii> pritam: But yes, if you download from there either is fine, that or the remix
[12:52] <genii> pritam: The first one has kde3 the second has kde4
[12:53] <flaccid> less commercial support, yes :)
[12:55] <devilzripper> so i've got another problem: I would like to start the flash player installer but when i click on the shell script, nothing happens
[12:55] <flaccid> devilzripper: you need to run it from konsole
[12:55] <[free]> re
[12:55] <devilzripper> ok and how to make this?
[12:55] <flaccid> !flash | devilzripper hopefully you read that
[12:56] <flaccid> devilzripper: any reason why you don't install it the normal way?
[12:56] <devilzripper> how do you see normal?
[12:56] <devilzripper> from the windows app?
[12:57] <flaccid> windows app?
[12:57] <flaccid> devilzripper: did you read the above URL ?
[12:57] <devilzripper> i read it now sec
[12:57]  * genii breaks out another bottle of Advil
[12:57] <genii> ;)
[12:58] <flaccid> hehe
[12:58] <flaccid> devilzripper: it doesn't mention hardy steps but they are the same as  feisty
[12:58] <devilzripper> ok thank you i try this...
[12:59] <genii> Hmm
[13:00] <flaccid> can someone confirm a dud page here (no login form) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserPreferences?action=login ?
[13:01] <flaccid> are they trying to implement OpenID relying party or something?
[13:01] <flaccid> oh sorry, the button did not come through in konqueror hmm. anyone else have that?
[13:03] <flaccid> ok refresh did the trick. must be my low bandwidth.
[13:03] <genii> flaccid: Took a while here on Firefox as well
[13:03] <flaccid> hmm not programmed very well
[13:04] <jussi01> flaccid: worked perfect on konq here...
[13:04] <eightmillion> does anyone know how to use custom colors for the taskbar text?
[13:05] <flaccid> jussi01: worked well in Opera. took a while in konq. probably my bandwidth atm. thanks for testing
[13:06] <flaccid> hmm it just lost my session ah well.
[13:07] <flaccid> lol im just trying to update the flash page to specify hardy instructions
[13:07] <flaccid> session dropped again. is /community a dif system or something?
[13:08] <flaccid> it keeps dropping. im unable to update a page
[13:10] <flaccid> jussi01: does the www team have an irc channel?
[13:10] <jpds> flaccid: -> #ubuntu-website
[13:10] <flaccid> thanks jpds
[13:18]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[13:19] <flaccid> omg
[13:19]  * genii blinks
[13:19] <genii> flaccid: ?
[13:19]  * flaccid notices the ambulance service
[13:20] <seisen> O.o
[13:24] <vrijmetse> hi
[13:24] <vrijmetse> anyone here?
[13:24] <flaccid> there is ~313 users
[13:24] <vrijmetse> who can help me out here?
[13:25] <flaccid> anybody that can and wants to
[13:25] <vrijmetse> I just installed ubuntu 8.04.1 desktop in my old laptop
[13:25] <vrijmetse> I inserted the ubuntu cd and restart it
[13:26] <vrijmetse> then it asks me about the language..I choose english
[13:26] <vrijmetse> then I got stuck at the command line
[13:26] <vrijmetse> at "ubuntu@ubuntu"
[13:26] <vrijmetse> what happen with the gui?
[13:26] <dr_Willis> gee ya could of summerized that a little smaller. :)
[13:27] <vrijmetse> how can I go there ? .. ok I guess thats my problem
[13:27] <flaccid> vrijmetse: not sure. but if you installed it then why are you still booting the cd ?
[13:27] <dr_Willis> sounds like the video card is not configured correctly. What is your video card?
[13:27] <flaccid> !enter | vrijmetse
[13:27] <dr_Willis> Or do you mean to say you are 'trying to install the os, and the install cd boots to the command line" ?
[13:27] <White_Pelican> I have a problem with flash in firefox, where should I ask about it?
[13:27] <vrijmetse> hmm. Its acer laptop 1350
[13:28] <vrijmetse> yes yes.. After I chose the "english" language then it goes to the ubuntu loading screen and ends at the command line
[13:28] <flaccid> vrijmetse: don't boot the cd. take it out.
[13:28] <vrijmetse> the loading screen went like for 3 mins. So I dont think it's installed, anyway let me try
[13:30] <flaccid> vrijmetse: the loading screen cannot load if its not installed, unless you are booting the livecd still which is what it sounds like.
[13:30] <vrijmetse> ok I just rebooted it
[13:31] <White_Pelican> is someone going to answer my question?
[13:31] <vrijmetse> Now I can see 4 options. "Normal", Safe Graphic, Verbose and Demo Mode however none is working
[13:31] <flaccid> White_Pelican: sorry. you can ask here and if not #ubuntu
[13:32] <White_Pelican> ty flaccid
[13:32] <flaccid> vrijmetse: sounds like you are still trying to boot the live cd
[13:33] <vrijmetse> Maybe because It extracted some files to my D:\ drive? Coz last time I choose I cant boot from CD
[13:33] <White_Pelican> here's my issue. I installed kubuntu on my box. I then installed the non free flash, it worked fine, then there was an upgrade to non free flash. now flash no longer works
[13:34] <flaccid> White_Pelican: run firefox from konsole then goto the flash test page then pastebin the whole output from konsole for us
[13:34] <White_Pelican> hmmm, forgive my ignorance but what is the flash test page?
[13:34] <vrijmetse> Now I am going in to windows and try to delete the files in my D:\ drive and I'll reboot again with my CD
[13:35] <flaccid> White_Pelican: google returns it usually first result. http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[13:35] <White_Pelican> ty
[13:35] <flaccid> np
[13:35] <vrijmetse> in mean while can you tell me in brief wahts the different between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[13:36] <Riddell> muesli: ping
[13:36] <flaccid> vrijmetse: not sure how that will help. it doesn't look like its booting off your hard disk. you should make sure its set to do so in bios..
[13:36] <Pici> vrijmetse: Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has Gnome.
[13:39] <White_Pelican> flaccid, here it is http://pastebin.com/m18d14ebc
[13:40] <flaccid> White_Pelican: did you copy that output after going to a website with flash in it. i see no plugin loading
[13:40] <White_Pelican> yes I did
[13:40] <White_Pelican> I went to the test page
[13:40] <White_Pelican> it thinks I don't have flash installed
[13:40] <vrijmetse> I took out my ubuntu cd and reboot but I still can choose to go to windows or ubuntu
[13:41] <vrijmetse> So now I am formating my D:\ coz Im pretty sure the cd extracted some files to it. Be back when I get more progress
[13:41] <White_Pelican> plus, I did about:plugins in firefox and flash is there
[13:43] <flaccid> White_Pelican: which firefox version?
[13:43] <White_Pelican> 3.0
[13:43] <flaccid> vrijmetse: you never let us know grub is working. you have totally confused me.
[13:44] <flaccid> White_Pelican: hardy?
[13:44] <White_Pelican> here is the ooutput from about:plugins regarding flash http://pastebin.com/m397c45b8
[13:44] <vrijmetse> sorry, I am not familiar with linux :/
[13:44] <White_Pelican> yes, hardy
[13:45] <flaccid> White_Pelican: um thats weird. may i suggest #ubuntu and #firefox for help. because this is a non K app you won't find too much help here - plug is in your about:plugins which is a bit crazy. its like the plugin wrapper is not loading at all or something
[13:51] <White_Pelican> flaccid, would it help to uninstall flash then reinstall it?
[13:52] <vrijmetse> White_Pelican : you just want to install flash player?
[13:52] <vrijmetse> why dont you use apt-get install flash
[13:52] <White_Pelican> I installed it and it was working and now it's now, vrijmetse
[13:52] <flaccid> White_Pelican: i doubt it. flash is only 1 file and in your pastebin there is no indication of the plugin wrapper loading. nor do i know how its meant to work in fx3...but the bottom entries could be related. you need better help really
[13:52] <White_Pelican> not*
[13:53] <flaccid> vrijmetse: no such package
[13:53] <vrijmetse> well he got to find the exact name ..
[13:53] <flaccid> White_Pelican: my guess is that the plugin wrapper package was removed or something. but i can't find any doco on how firefox handles flash and loads it.
[13:54] <White_Pelican> thanks anyway for your help
[13:54] <flaccid> vrijmetse: he already has flashplugin-nonfree installed
[13:54] <flaccid> np
[13:54] <vrijmetse> reinstall
[13:54] <White_Pelican> I'll try
[14:00] <vrijmetse> flaccid. Now I am in grub
[14:00] <vrijmetse> what should I do next?
[14:01] <flaccid> vrijmetse: what entries are there?
[14:02] <flaccid> vrijmetse: what entries are there?
[14:02] <vrijmetse> sorry I got disconected. What should I do next after I get into grub
[14:02] <vrijmetse> nothing. It's like a command line
[14:02] <vrijmetse> it shows "grub>"
[14:03] <flaccid> it goes straight to the grub prompt ?
[14:03] <vrijmetse> yep
[14:03] <flaccid> well thats not good
[14:03] <flaccid> so far sounds like your installation failed in at least 1 major way
[14:04] <vrijmetse> how to undone or repair it
[14:05] <flaccid> vrijmetse: re-install it i'd recommend and make sure the installation is successful
[14:06] <vrijmetse> so I just reboot with the cd again?
[14:07] <flaccid> vrijmetse: reboot and re-install yes unless you need to backup data first from those partitions you used which are non-windows
[14:08] <ubuntu_> hi...i have a problem with grub
[14:08] <vrijmetse> there is only windows system here.
[14:08] <ubuntu_> can anybody help me?
[14:09] <vrijmetse> you can just say it. Anyone who knows and wants to help will reply to you
[14:09] <ubuntu_> grub says: "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device"
[14:09] <vrijmetse> oh god. Now it goes back to "ubuntu@ubuntu" prompt
[14:10] <flaccid> ubuntu_: thats not grub. there is no grub if you get that
[14:10] <flaccid> vrijmetse: reinstall and make sure you do it correctly
[14:10] <ubuntu_> ah ok
[14:10] <flaccid> !grubfix | ubuntu_
[14:10] <flaccid> !fixgrub | ubuntu_
[14:10] <vrijmetse> well I rebooted my pc and it shows the ubuntu option
[14:11] <vrijmetse> I chose "install ubuntu" and here I am
[14:15] <flaccid> vrijmetse: if you havnt initiated a re-install i'd be keen to see what find /boot/grub/stage1 returns in your grub prompt
[14:17] <vrijmetse> its unrecognized command
[14:25] <ubuntu_> grub> device (hd0) /dev/mapper/isw_cgjgeejbec_Raid0
[14:25] <ubuntu_> grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:25] <ubuntu_>  (hd0,5)
[14:25] <ubuntu_> grub> root(hd0,5)
[14:25] <ubuntu_> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[14:25] <ubuntu_> why?
[14:29] <flaccid> ubuntu_: you need a space in there root (hd0,5)
[14:29] <flaccid> well i think thats the case
[14:29] <ubuntu_> ok it work
[14:30] <ubuntu_> now reboot...
[14:31] <flaccid> that doesn't save but heh okies
[14:46] <ubuntu> now I have error 5 in grub :s
[14:48] <flaccid> ubuntu: 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt  This error is returned if the sanity checks on the integrity of the partition table fail. This is a bad sign. : http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html
[14:49] <ubuntu> it's true but I have no problem with partition...
[14:50] <ubuntu> what should I do?
[14:52] <flaccid> panic or reinstall. thats all i can offer in this situation over the web
[14:53] <ubuntu> reinstall what, I just do it...I have only a problem with grub I want solve it!
[14:56] <flaccid> this suggest problem is with partition, not grub. read it again: This error is returned if the sanity checks on the integrity of the partition table fail. i guesss you could try livecd and fsck the partitions/filesystems but im not sure
[14:56] <neoneurone> hi all, why HDD are recognized as SDsomething under Ubuntu ? whereas under other systems they used to be called as HDsomething
[14:56] <flaccid> neoneurone: linux logical names.
[14:57] <ubuntu> but i have just mounted partition from livecd
[14:57] <flaccid> ubuntu: then fsck it
[14:58] <genii> neoneurone: Because it uses a scsi layer for all storage now
[14:58] <ubuntu> what is the right command of fsck? I'm newbe
[14:58] <ubuntu> :s
[15:00] <ubuntu> is it fsck /dev/mapper/iswRaid06?
[15:00] <flaccid> genii: fsck /dev/sda where sda is your hard disk device
[15:00] <flaccid> oops wrong person
[15:00] <genii> hehe
[15:00] <ubuntu> ok....partition must be mounted?
[15:00] <flaccid> ubuntu: ^^ and lots more on google about this and also man fsck
[15:00]  * genii slips flaccid an extra-caffeinated coffee
[15:01] <flaccid> ubuntu: better to do it unmounted so you can easily do write mode
[15:01] <genii> ubuntu: It's better NOT to have it mounted for fsck operation
[15:01] <ubuntu> ok thanks to all
[15:01]  * flaccid goes to open another bottle of red
[15:03] <neoneurone> flaccid, genii ok thank you. My kubuntu installation didn't start because I specified a /dev/hdsomething as root device instead of /dev/sdsomething.
[15:04] <genii> neoneurone: Now you know :)
[15:04] <neoneurone> ^^
[15:05] <neoneurone> what is the UUID line in /etc/fstab ? How can I obtain 1 to mount another partition of my hard disk ?
[15:06] <flaccid> neoneurone: you don't need one for fstab but if you want you can use ...
[15:06] <flaccid> !uuid
[15:19] <ubuntu> i have done fsck but problem permains
[15:20] <flaccid> try google i guess. its a bad problem and not one that i personally have knowledge about ie. grub 5
[15:22] <ubuntu> do you think I should reinstall all?
[15:23] <neoneurone> flaccid, thanks man. I got the uuid thanks to blkid.
[15:49] <kitty_> hy all
[15:50] <kitty_> could someone tell me please how do I use yahoo on ubuntu??? please
[16:11] <sunru> hi
[16:12] <sunru> how would you upgrade to kde4?
[16:13] <Tm_T> !kde4
[16:13] <Tm_T> nah
[16:13] <Tm_T> sunru: by installing kubuntu-kde4-desktop or similar I guess
[16:14] <sunru> using apt?
[16:16] <Tm_T> sunru: apt with any frontend you like
[16:47] <adrien> Bonjour le monde
[16:47] <adrien> français en tout cas --'
[16:48] <adrien> il y a un channe français ??
[16:48] <coon> hi
[16:49] <Jucato> !fr | adrien
[16:50] <dinho> E ai rapaziada
[16:51] <Jucato> !br | dinho
[16:53] <dinho> Eu estou usando o kurumin ng com o kubuntu
[16:53] <dinho> como eu tenho ajuda em portugues
[16:54] <dinho> gostaria de algumas dicas para montar lanhouse com o kubuntu ou o Kurumin ng
[16:55] <Jucato> !br | dinho
[16:56] <dinho> #ubuntu-br - gostaria de algumas dicas para montar lanhouse com o kubuntu ou o Kurumin ng
[16:57] <dinho> #ubuntu-br - tanto para servidores como para clientes
[16:58] <dinho> #kubuntu -
[16:58] <dinho> #kubuntu-br -
[17:02] <jussi01> dinho: use         /join #ubuntu-br
[17:03] <thomas__> Hi. When I boot my computer, it starts in console mode. I have to "sudo kdm" to get to kdm. Anyway to bypass the console mode altogether? Thanks!
[17:09] <matthew_> behöver hjälp
[17:09] <pag> !sv | matthew_
[17:10] <matthew_> thx
[17:12] <coon> hello
[17:13] <coon> is there anyone who might be able to help me with a compiz question
[17:13] <rickest> coon: there's no way to know until you ask.  don't ask to ask, just ask
[17:14] <coon> ight thx
[17:14] <coon> i installed compiz-fusion and got all the effects working and the cube but it is only 2 sided i had 8 sides and i cant remember how to get other sides
[17:15] <Avenhawk> hi @ all
[17:15] <pag> coon, ccsm -> general settings  (iirc)
[17:15] <pag> hello Avenhawk
[17:16] <cryingtux> hello
[17:16] <andy> xine can't initialize my audio drivers, whats wrong? this has happened to me before
[17:16] <Avenhawk> can i ask a question i have a problem with GnomeICU ?!
[17:16] <cryingtux> i wanna install kubuntu 8.04 and i have few questions
[17:16] <pag> !ask
[17:18] <Avenhawk> ok =) so i have the problem that i am get online with skype , amsn and this irc but my GnomeICU dont connect to the provider of the service what can be the reason ??
[17:19] <coon> ok imon the ccsm general tab and i dont see where i set the number of desktops
[17:19] <coon> sorry im a noob still but am learning lol
[17:19] <pag> Avenhawk, are you sure username &/ password is right? It also might be a bug in software.. TBH I personally am not familiar with software in question :\
[17:20] <pag> coon, I think it was a setting called 'horzontal space' or something similiar.. not sure though - it's a while since I used compiz
[17:21] <andy> my audio drivers somehw cant be initialized, how do i fix this?
[17:21] <cryingtux> enabling universe and multiuniverse repos is recommended?
[17:21] <Avenhawk> hmm....can the login name and pw to old ??? i dont think so , but i used this infos 2 years ago maybe the provider of icq has delete my account ?? because its not a problem with the other chatprogs only with gnomeICU
[17:22] <coon> awsome thx that worked
[17:22] <pag> cryingtux, afaik it's both reccomended and done by default :-)
[17:23] <cryingtux> pag: i checked adept pm and they were not enabled so i asked , also how about medibuntu repos?
[17:23] <pag> Avenhawk, try connecting to ICQ with either Kopete or Pidgin (you should have either by default) if it still doesn't work, then it's probably with your account.
[17:23] <joe_> so what's better kde or gnome?
[17:24] <coon> kde in my opinion
[17:24] <pag> cryingtux, I'm not sure about reccommendations with Medibuntu - personally I liked it
[17:24] <joe_> kool, thnkx
[17:24] <pag> !best | joe_
[17:24] <cryingtux> pag : thanks
[17:25] <pag> cryingtux, yw :)
[17:25] <Avenhawk> ok many thanks for the moment i test it an tell you again
[17:25] <cryingtux> i wanna get the non-free drivers for my nvidia card, how about that please?
[17:25] <rickest> coon: general options, desktop size, 'horizontal virtual size'
[17:25] <coon> thx i found it
[17:25] <coon> awsome
[17:26] <pag> cryingtux, both Ubuntu and Kubuntu come with 'restricted drivers manager' so it's just a mouse-click away now-a-days
[17:26] <cryingtux> there is a package, im forgetting the name which gets the latest of the nvidia drivers
[17:27] <pag> cryingtux, I can't remember the name either, but yes - you can do it that way too (it's not that simple, but it works too)
[17:27] <andy> my audio drivers somehw cant be initialized, how do i fix this?
[17:27] <cryingtux> it will automatically check your card and get the drivers for you
[17:28] <coon> invideo accelerated graphics driver(latest cards)
[17:28] <cryingtux> i guess it is called envy ?
[17:28] <pag> cryingtux, oh no - don't touch that
[17:28] <cryingtux> pag: oh
[17:29] <pag> cryingtux, ubuntu integrates necessary tools, which work much better than envy - envy will only get you in problems after every kernel update
[17:29] <cryingtux> is envy not from ubuntu?
[17:29] <ikonia> cryingtux: no
[17:29] <cryingtux> oh
[17:30] <cryingtux> so im safe, i want a clean ubuntu system, i dont want tricky packages indeed
[17:31] <andy> my audio drivers somehw cant be initialized, how do i fix this?
[17:32] <pag> andy, does the error occur right after boot?
[17:32] <andy> im not sure i just noticed when i tried to play a movie on youtube
[17:32] <cryingtux> pag : i had resolution /display problem with my nvidia geforce fx 5600 card , is there any fix for that?
[17:33] <bal1sac> hie...
[17:33] <bal1sac> i installed kubuntu
[17:33] <bal1sac> its kewl ;)
[17:34] <pag> cryingtux, hard to say.. iirc I have the same card and I never had a single problem.
[17:34] <Avenhawk> hey pag i am back and so what i can tell you ? only my number has been written wrong i typed in correctly and now it runs on Gnome ICU and Pidgin , very thanks angain for the help now i very happy ...=) it works
[17:34] <eagles0513875> hey all
[17:35] <ballsac> why internets not work on kubuntu
[17:35] <pag> Avenhawk, yw :-)
[17:35] <ballsac> hie
[17:35] <pag> ballsac, try killing knetworkmanager'
[17:35] <ballsac> WHY KUBUNTU DOESNT WORK!?
[17:36] <ballsac> ok fine lemme try
[17:36] <ballsac> how to kill
[17:36] <ballsac> process manager or sumth.
[17:36] <ballsac> ?
[17:36] <Tm_T> !enter
[17:36] <Tm_T> !patience
[17:36] <ballsac> what?
[17:36] <ballsac> haha Tm_T is a bot
[17:36] <Tm_T> !helpme
[17:36] <jussi01> ballsac: no
[17:36] <pag> ballsac, alt+f2 and type " killall knetworkmanager " (without the quotes)
[17:36] <ballsac> ok done
[17:36] <eagles0513875> ballsac: Tm_T isnt a bot ubottu is a bot
[17:36] <ballsac> how wat
[17:37] <jussi01> ubottu is a bot
[17:37] <ballsac> eagles0513875 k lol
[17:37] <ballsac> no wait the bot ubottu (not real person) confirmed it
[17:37] <eagles0513875> jussi01: gotta love people who talk to the bot
[17:37] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:37] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: O_o u rnt a bot
[17:37] <eagles0513875> u just copied that from ubottu's saying lol
[17:37] <ballsac> Tm_T can't type normal sentence = bot.
[17:37] <eagles0513875> ive been in here long enough to know whose a bot and who isnt
[17:37] <Tm_T> I am not? phew, I was getting claustrophobic
[17:38] <Avenhawk> rfol tv
[17:38] <ballsac> how to become OP in this room
[17:38] <Avenhawk> copying from a bot is like get virus from vista =)^
[17:38] <ballsac> i am linux expart
[17:39] <jussi01> ballsac: be a good helper, and if and when we need more we will see.
[17:39] <ballsac> ok anyone need help expart here !
[17:39] <ballsac> any kubuntu ques? i have answer
[17:40] <Avenhawk> does somebody knowes a good site on the i-net where i can get a great Amiga Theme for my ubuntu but dont tell me the gnomelookorg ^
[17:40] <ballsac> I KNOW THE ANSWER
[17:40] <Tm_T> ballsac: stop
[17:40] <jussi01> ballsac: you are not helping
[17:40] <ballsac> but im telling him the answer
[17:40] <Jucato> ballsac: do NOT type in all caps. that is considered shouting and rude
[17:40] <jussi01> !guidelines | ballsac
[17:41] <ballsac> ok here is answer: open internet program and type http://www.google.com then type amige theme
[17:41] <ballsac> ur done!
[17:42] <Avenhawk> wow so intelligent i was too...but its really hard to find , i dont need only the bars or icons i need the slash and gdm and bootscreen to ^
[17:43] <ballsac> Avenhawk: yeh.. ur quite dum. :)
[17:43] <Jucato> ballsac: enough
[17:43] <jussi01> ballsac: enough
[17:43] <ballsac> awww.. i was just getting warmed up jussi01
[17:43] <ballsac> dont ban damnit im stopping
[17:44] <pag> Avenhawk, if you use gnome, you could also try art.gnome.org ... (btw #ubuntu might know answers to gnome-specific questions better than we do here)
[17:45] <ballsac> Avenhawk: or try www.google.com  I heard it's real good
[17:45] <ballsac> oops...
[17:45] <Jucato> aw.. :(
[17:45]  * JoshOvki takes spade off ballsac
[17:45] <Avenhawk> ah ok sry my fault this is my first week on ubuntu , or linux i try for years to get warm with linux or such distribution , i am an old dos and windows user =) but thanks for the nice that everbody helps who can =)
[17:46] <andy> im not sure i just noticed when i tried to play a movie on youtube
[17:46] <andy> my audio drivers somehw cant be initialized, how do i fix this?
[17:46] <pag> andy, are you using firefox?
[17:47] <andy> yes
[17:48] <pag> andy, try playing someting else (like music with amarok)
[17:48] <andy> but when i play something on amarok or kaffeinne i get an error message that the audio drivers can't be initialized
[17:48] <Avenhawk> andy did you have the right codecs installed to do that
[17:49] <Kharza> andy: That happens for me too when I try to play youtube and amarok at the same time
[17:49] <Avenhawk> its the demuxer from the mixer in oss and alsa you need another mixer from direct bind on hardware but dont ask me to get this where =)
[17:50] <Kharza> andy: I don't know how to fix it, but to prevent it from happening stop you're music before opening youtube(or flash in general) videos, and close the tabs they are on before using amarok again
[17:50] <Avenhawk> i had the prob too when i use skype and want to hear mp3 on amarok or banshee
[17:50] <andy> Avenhawk i think so normaly i dont have any problems of that kind
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[17:51] <andy> Kharza i wasnt playing both of them at the same time first i tried playing a video on youtube and when i noticed the sound didnt work i tried amarok and kaffeine
[17:53] <Avenhawk> i think he usses the same mixer thats the problem by that , when you can tell him use another mixer he can do it i think , but its only a think^
[17:53] <timo_> I'm trying to install Jahshaka from source on Kubuntu kde
[17:53] <timo_> when I type ./configure, I get: ./configure: 57: qmake: not found
[17:54] <timo_> but I already installed the build-essentials package
[17:54] <timo_> can somebody help me install Jahshaka plz?
[17:55] <pag> timo_, iirc qmake isn't part of build-essentials – you'll have to install it seperatly
, ok, and where can i find it
[17:55] <pag> timo_, sudo apt-get install qmake  ?
 couldn't find packet qmake
[17:57] <bobo> can anyone help me convert a mp3 file to wave or tell me a program that will
[17:57] <emilsedgh> bobo: soundkonverter
[17:57] <pag> timo_, erm.. dunno then.. is Jahshaka qt3 or qt4 software?
[17:59] <timo_> pag, good question, i'll look that up....
[18:00] <andy> sooo, anyone have any ideas of what my problem is?
[18:02] <oobe> does anyone else have a problem where crontab just wont work
[18:02] <and1_> zgj,
[18:02] <oobe> i need help AFAIK im doing everything right
[18:02] <oobe> 5 * * * *       /usr/bin/wirelesstest
[18:03] <oobe> that should work right
[18:03] <andy> ok so my audio only doesnt work when firefox is running
[18:03] <timo_> pag, i'm installing qt4 now... see if it works
[18:05] <andy> so my audio doesn't work when firefox 3 is running, is there any way i can fix this or is something just wrong with firefox? (wich would surptise me)
[18:05] <timo_> YES, it works now :) thanks pag!
[18:07] <Avenhawk> so guys , nice afternoon and a good night sleep well an thanks for the help again ^(pag)
[18:19] <bobo> i still need a codec or something i cant get this thing to convert at all
[18:19] <bobo> mp3 to wav
[18:20] <bobo> help please
[18:21] <alanx> bobo: I just had try an app, but works in window$
[18:22] <Betus> use the scanner as my epson printer cx5600?
[18:23] <alanx> it names AoA Audio Extractor, its free, and can help you!
[18:30] <cryingtux> does  http://www.medibuntu.org/ and the packages from it are down atm?
[18:31] <oobe> cryingtux, it looks that way
[18:32] <cryingtux> relief, i thought my repos are messed up somehow
[18:34] <onur_> hey
[18:34] <Malix> hiya. I have a tiny problem with firefox 3. for some reason it is and stays as 3.0b5 no matter what I do. I have purge removed firefox and installed from repositories. I only use the ubuntu & medibuntu repositories
[18:34] <Malix> so what gives? o_O
[18:35] <Malix> and sorry to barge in like this and making questions out of the blue =)
[18:36] <onur_> anyone knows about a sound problems for T61p whit ubuntu 8.04
[18:39] <jussi01> !info firefox-3
[18:39] <jussi01> !find firefox
[18:40] <Malix> !info firefox-3.0
[18:40] <jussi01> !info firefox-3.0
[18:40] <jussi01> hehe
[18:40] <Malix> thats the package I'm getting from the repository, but still when I launch the app, it is 3.0b5
[18:41] <Malix> it says so in the titlebar and help->about
[18:41] <hellhound> how do i instal kde4?  I have kubuntu 8.04.1
[18:43] <oobe> sudo apt-get install kde4
[18:44] <mdik> may it be, that there is only apache2 left, no apache 1.3 anymore in the reps?
[18:44] <Malix> isnt there like kubuntu-kde4desktop package in apt?
[18:44] <hellhound> oobe: thank you .  will that install all the kde4 packages?
[18:44] <oobe> yes the whole thing
[18:45] <Malix> KDE 4 is available on the Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix CD, or with apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop.
[18:45] <Malix> straight copypaste from kubuntu.org ;)
[18:45] <hellhound> thank you all
[18:51] <bobo> is there any way i can get the clock to read normal (not military)
[18:59] <savetheWorld> Hi, Can you use apt-get to upgrade just one application?
[19:02] <MementoMori> hi
[19:03] <MementoMori> which is a good chan for asking a kernel question?
[19:03] <joseph> !kernel
[19:03] <joseph> !linus
[19:03] <joseph> !linux
[19:03] <joseph> MementoMori: those links should help.
[19:04] <MementoMori> joseph: I'm not so sure. I'm looking for a struct in kernel headers I cant find
[19:05] <MementoMori> joseph: so I need to ask to someone who knows quite well kernel source
[19:06] <joseph> try ##kernel then
[19:06] <MementoMori> thx
[19:06] <joseph> np
[19:08] <stefano> "CIAO"
[19:08] <stefano> !list
[19:09] <jussi01> stefano: can we help you?
[19:18] <gnumm> how do i set konqueror as default file manager?
[19:18] <gnumm> in kubuntu hardy kde3
[19:19] <pag> !dolphin | gnumm
[19:19] <gnumm> thank you
[19:22] <Roflocopter> News UBUNTU : ubuntu will become closed source. Read this : http://www.ubuntu.on.nimp.org/news-23-54.html
[19:23] <gnumm> Roflocopter: idiot
[19:23] <Pici> !ops | Roflocopter
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> how can I mount something with exec rather than noexec please??
[20:06] <dwidmann_> ActionParsnip: open up the fstab (kdesudo kate /etc/fstab), on the line for that partition, in the options part (usually something like defaults ro rw relatime and other options are listed), just add a comma followed by exec and see if that does it for ya
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann_: thing is Im just mounting it using cli but if fstab is the only way to make it run then i guess i gotta
[20:07] <dwidmann_> ActionParsnip: fstab is just nicer .... if you're just using the cli you can probably do "-o exec"
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann_ ahh, as i sued -o loop
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> *used
[20:08] <dwidmann_> ActionParsnip: you may need to keep that, but you'll want a second -o for the exec probably
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> ahhhh i see
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> cheers man
[20:41] <psycholic> are most sata hd's hot swapable?
[20:42] <Pici> No
[20:42] <Pici> psycholic: at least I dont think so, ##hardware would know better than I though
[20:43] <psycholic> hmm ok beter shut down then
[20:43] <psycholic> thats where i'm going now
[20:50] <Dashkal> Trying to play with kde4 in Xephyr on hardy.  Installed from the ppa.  What do I use in place of kde3's startkde?
[21:02] <Gerrit> Hi
[21:08] <Gerrit> On kubuntu, I have installed libsdl-net1.2-dev (1.2.5-7), but I need at least SDL_net-1.2.7 (as well as dev). This does not seem to be available in repositories and installing a version from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/ by hand leads to dependency problems. How can I solve this?
[21:10] <Haza> Evening folks. How might i unlock my Adept DB?
[21:10] <Haza> This has happened a couple of times and it seems to be an ongoing issue
[21:12] <Haza> Any help with that magical command would be appreciated :D
[21:13] <evan__>  hey i installed mohaa via loki installer and it works a little bit ... its in possible for me to modify settings in game
[21:18] <jussi01> !aptfix | Haza
[21:19] <Haza> Cheers mate
[21:19] <evan__>  hey i installed mohaa via loki installer and it works a little bit ... its in possible for me to modify settings in game
[21:24] <Flibberdy> Hi, I just installed kubuntu 8.04 on an Acer Aspire 5110, but I can't get either of the network interfaces to work
[21:25] <jose> hola
[21:25] <Flibberdy> anyone got any tips? the wired NIC is an RTL8139D and the wireless is an atheros thing, i'm focusing on the wired for the moment
[21:26] <Flibberdy> when i plug the wired nic into my router knetworkmanager detects that i've plugged it in, but it just won't communicate with my router's dhcp
[21:30] <sourcemaker> how can I remove startup scripts in ubuntu?
[21:30] <sourcemaker> i did purge sendmail... but the startup script /etc/init.d/sendmail still remains...
[21:31] <rickest> sourcemaker: you mean leave the programs installed but not have them autostart when booting?
[21:32] <sourcemaker> rickest: no... I did "apt-get purge sendmail"... but when I reboot my server... I receive the error message sendmail not probaply installed...
[21:32] <psyco> Hey can anyone help me solve this?
[21:32] <psyco> http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6756/audiohk0.jpg
[21:32] <psyco> I have no sound at all on my computer, it was workijng before though.
[21:32] <sourcemaker> rickest: there is a /etc/init.d/sendmail.. which has not been removed...
[21:33] <rickest> sourcemaker: rc-update.d sendmail remove
[21:33] <rickest> er, update-rc.d   sorry
[21:33] <sourcemaker> rickest: thanks
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[21:44] <dbneeley> Is anyone else having problems with the Kubuntu login screen having unusable, HUGE text?
[21:44] <dbneeley> Oh, yes...Kubuntu 8.04 on an HP DV5000 series laptop with Intel graphics
[21:49] <josa> is the resolution too little = hueg text?
[21:50] <dbneeley> Resolution was fine for everything else...just huge text. This changed about three versions ago.
[21:50] <kdavid> I am trying to watch dvd movies on Kubuntu 8.04 but noting seems to work what do I do?
[21:52] <mkquist> kdavid: have u installed the proper codecs?
[21:52] <psyco> can anyone post a screen of their  >System settings>Sound and Multimedia>Sound System "General and Hardware" tabs?
[21:52] <Ermenegild> dbneeley: uhm i think you can manually set the font of kdm in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[21:53] <kdavid> I did try to instal some but they do not seem to be working
[21:53] <dbneeley> Thanks, Ermenegild, I'll try that. If I can find why the Intel HDA sound works from the Live CD but not when installed on the hard drive, those two changes will make things fine!
[21:54] <dbneeley> Of course, I'm trying OpenSUSE 11 and everything works fine with that...but not in any *buntu variant.
[21:54] <Ermenegild> sounds like different kernel versions/configs from the LiveCD and the installed one
[21:54] <kdavid> I installed mplayer and it does nothing for the dvd's
[21:55] <dbneeley> kdavid, what codecs have you installed?
[21:55] <mkquist> kdavid: but have u installe the proper codecs, not just a player, it needs to know how to decode the files...
[21:55] <maarika> hi. problem with hardy: no video files show any 'video'
[21:55] <Ermenegild> i think they had a tarball with codecs in the mplayer homepage...
[21:55] <mkquist> kdavid: http://www.medibuntu.org/ check here
[21:55] <maarika> tried kaffeine, mplayer
[21:56] <maarika> w32codecs are installed
[21:56] <dbneeley> The medibuntu repository should be added to your repository list, then you can select what you want and install it automagically.
[21:57] <kdavid> I don't remember them exactly but I loaded w64codecs & libdvdcss2
[22:10] <maarika> anyone?
[22:17] <abc__> hi
[22:18] <abc__> hello vipio
[22:21] <Vipio> hi
[22:23] <mzanfardino> I have configured my session manager to start with an empty session.  I have added a symlink in .kde/Autostart which points to kmix.  When I log in, kmix starts (as expected) but does does with the mixer window open (which is not expected).  How can I configure kmix to not start with the mixer window open?
[22:29] <mzanfardino> wow... no love with kmix and session manager eh?
[22:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> mzanfardino: if you have it open when you logout (even just in the notification area), and have it remember opened applications, it should start up every time
[22:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> might want to check for any options for kmix to see if there's a way to start it either minimized or minimized to the notification area
[22:35] <shaffy> can someone tell me why my swap isn't be used?  also, when i hibernate my system and restart, it has to reboot fresh, rather than resume.
[22:40] <F-u-z-z-Y> Hi there, I'm trying to install Songbird. I've downloaded the .tar.gz file, extracted it. but now what?
[22:41] <minhaaj> i can't install my icons
[22:41] <minhaaj> it won't work. i tried to paste the extracted folder into .icon and to install by themes too but it won't work
[22:41] <Guest11003> hi
[22:42] <kdepepo> hi, which version of kubuntu has kde4 in "universe" ?
[22:44] <Guest11003> hi, wich is the name of the program in kubuntu, to modify the list of the programs in the start session
[22:44] <kdepepo> ah, kde4 channel :)
[22:44] <mzanfardino> Daisuke_Laptop: the issue I'm running into is that I've configured the session manager to start empty and kmix is launching via my symlink.  I make sure that kmix is closed and running minimized when I shut down, so i would expect that the next time it launches it would open minimized.  I guess what I'm looking for is where to configure kmix to open minimized...
[22:45] <mzanfardino> anyway, I'll keep digging
[22:53] <i__> ubuntu: administration-> preference -> session . How can j do the same with kubuntu? thanks
[22:55] <jimmy51_home> what app can i use to capture video from a USB webcam?
[22:56] <jimmy51_home> !webcam
[22:59] <White_Pelican> in konqueror, you can right click inside a folder and create a link to an application, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that in Dolphin. can someone help?
[23:09] <ubuntu> hello
[23:11] <ImLiz> Hello everyone, Can anyone tell me how to get to maintenance mode in kubuntu dapper drake???
[23:16] <Pigeon``> Hi, i'm using pidgin and i want libnotify to work :O
[23:17] <Pigeon``> i installed it, when i go in plugins, i see it but just can't 'check' it
[23:19] <ImLiz> Does anyone know how to get to maintenance mode? I've tried searching for it to no avail :(
[23:20] <Githzerai> ImLiz: Maintenance mode?
[23:23] <ImLiz> Githzeral: yes using a terminal
[23:24] <ImLiz> fsck did a run on my desktop and told me to run fsck manually in maintenance mode, but don't know how to get there.
[23:25] <Githzerai> ImLiz: In grub, second option ;)
[23:25]  * JoshOvki needs to type faster than Githzerai
[23:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> what program do i need to have access to the files on the linux partition from windows xp?
[23:27] <ImLiz> so maintenance is the same as recovery mode?
[23:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i take the mounted partition icon out of the desktop, it wont let me delete it
[23:28] <Githzerai> ImLiz: I guess, that's why I asked ;)
[23:28] <Githzerai> ImLiz: Must be :)
[23:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[23:28] <ImLiz> Githzerai: lol ok thx I'll try it there
[23:29] <ImLiz> Githzerai: also do u know if this command "mount -o -n remount,rw /" is written correctly?
[23:29] <Githzerai> ImLiz: nope, missing arguments for options ;)
[23:30] <ImLiz> it was the command fsck gave me but not sure if the spaces are in the right place
[23:30] <ImLiz> it said run without -a or -p.. something like that
[23:31] <Githzerai> ImLiz: say something like this : sudo mount -t <fstype> -o <option argument> /mount/device   /mount/point
[23:32] <Pigeon``> anyone know how to make pidgin-libnotify popup work?
[23:34] <nzk> Does anybody know of any applications that show the time remaining to a certain date?
[23:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i run firefox from wine?
[23:36] <ImLiz> Githzerai: ok, I'll try to make sense out of that lol
[23:38] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker: why would you use wine ?
[23:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> because the firefox i want to open
[23:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> is from the mounted windows partition
[23:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> on my mom's folder
[23:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> so, ohw do i do it?
[23:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> and how do i get hotmail to work well on konqueror
[23:40] <BluesKaj> did you try the open with dialog /
[23:41] <ubuntu> hi
[23:41] <ubuntu> do anybody help me to configure grub?
[23:41] <BluesKaj> did you just reinstall windows or linux ?
[23:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> nope
[23:42] <ubuntu> I have just installed linux, I have only linux
[23:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do you mean with dialog?
[23:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> is that soem other browser BlueskaJ?
[23:43] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  no , if you open the folder with firefox it may auto-select wine
[23:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> well the icon has a lock
[23:44] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , what error ?
[23:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> and it sys .ink
[23:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me try that
[23:44] <ubuntu> I have restarted system but kubuntu doesn't work
[23:45] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  if the icon has a lock then you need permission to open it.
[23:45] <ubuntu> now I have configurated grub
[23:45] <Githzerai> ubuntu: What error output?
[23:45] <ubuntu> nothing
[23:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> BluesKaj: how do i get that?
[23:46] <Githzerai> ubuntu: Can't be nothing :) ;) *Must* be error otput. ;)
[23:46] <ubuntu> one moment I try to restart now...
[23:46] <BluesKaj> your windows password, CostaRicanQuaker
[23:46] <ubuntu> wait only a moment
[23:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> BluesKaj: i dont have one....and it doesnt ask me for it when i click on it
[23:47] <aldo> hello
[23:48] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  what happens when you click on it, any message at all ?
[23:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> nothing
[23:48] <BluesKaj> your mother must want to keep the folder secure
[23:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> er...no, she doesnt  know much about computers or anything
[23:49] <aldo> alguem me ajud
[23:49] <aldo> ajuda
[23:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> what i did is created this folder for her with links to the browsers
[23:50] <_CrashMaster_> !iso
[23:52] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker: are you sure "anyuser" browse the windows partition ?
[23:52] <BluesKaj> can browse
[23:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[23:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> no admin on it
[23:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> furthermore wheni open wine it lists only notepad as an openable program
[23:53] <ubuntu> nothing
[23:53] <ubuntu> it shows only a dash
[23:54] <ubuntu> I think problem is partition
[23:55] <Githzerai> ubuntu: Press ctrl+alt+f2 @ that point
[23:55] <BluesKaj> did you install wine as a seperate pkg or are you using the app in system settings, which i havent had much luck with ...I prefer to install it seperately
[23:55] <ubuntu> and after?
[23:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm opening it from the app menu
[23:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> i do remember having downloaded it though
[23:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> what can i do though?
[23:56] <Githzerai> ubuntu: Well? Any output ?
[23:57] <ubuntu> no
[23:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> BluesKaj: so what should i do?
[23:58] <ubuntu> before I restarted system / is on sda6...now is on sdb6
[23:58] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  are you pasting URL links in that folder ?
[23:58] <tsunami> español
[23:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> BluesKaj: they're links to the browsers, namely safari and firefox
[23:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> so my mom only ahs to open her folder and click on them
[23:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> to load the browsers