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smallfoot- | anyone running alpha2 without any problems whatsoever? | 00:55 |
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smallfoot- | anyone experience that alpha2 work better than 8.04 stable? | 00:55 |
teamcobra | not quite yet ;p ;p | 00:55 |
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alexur1 | When i run update-manager -d to get 8.10 it tries to upgrade to 8.04 which im already on so then it fails. when i click upgrade in update manager it shows the release notes for 8.04 | 01:26 |
alexur1 | but update manager is saying 8.10 is available | 01:26 |
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ASULutzy | There's no more compiz-config-settings-manager in Intrepid? | 02:45 |
RAOF | Seems to work here. | 02:47 |
ASULutzy | Ah, there's a simple-ccsm | 02:47 |
ASULutzy | Oh I'm just dumb, compizconfig-settings-manager... I thought it used to have hyphens between each... | 02:49 |
ASULutzy | Now if only enabling compiz didn't make my machine explode... | 02:51 |
DanaG | I once tried Compiz on a system with a 32-meg GeForce [called-a-4-but-is-really-a-2] Go, with only 256 megs of system RAM. | 02:56 |
DanaG | Needless to say... it didn't work too well. | 02:56 |
DanaG | I am in [your] video driver, eatingz all yer RAM. | 02:57 |
DanaG | (I refuse to type like a moron, "ur".) | 02:57 |
DanaG | Oh yeah, I keep seeing references to "NV50" -- what the heck is NV50? | 02:59 |
DanaG | I know I have a G73... but NV-what? I haven't a **** clue. | 02:59 |
RAOF | Heh. | 03:01 |
RAOF | nv5x == G80/90 == GeForce 8/9 | 03:01 |
RAOF | nv4x == Geforce 6/7. | 03:02 |
RAOF | nv3x == Geforce 4. | 03:02 |
ASULutzy | Yikes that's really bad... Doing compiz --replace makes my machine fail pretty hard... Keyboard stopped responding and had to vulcan nerve pinch it. | 03:02 |
RAOF | nvidia numbering sucks. | 03:02 |
ASULutzy | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5380848 someone in the channel said this was already a known bug but didn't provide a link... Just wanted to make sure. (This is a regression, as compiz worked in Hardy and in Intrepid alpha 1, the person in the channel said this was a problem with mesa and not with compiz, but again just wanted to make sure) | 03:03 |
RAOF | If it's all white, that's mesa. Or, I think, the intel drivers in particular. | 03:05 |
ASULutzy | Yea, it goes white, and then if I run compiz --replace from a terminal I can push ctrl+c to get it to go back to metacity, but then my keyboard stops responding... Pushing caps lock still toggles the light, but no apps respond to my keyboard anymore and I have to nerve pinch it | 03:07 |
ASULutzy | RAOF: This is a known regression/bug? | 03:07 |
RAOF | Yes. | 03:08 |
ASULutzy | RAOF: Thanks... I hope the people in charge of the intel driver don't change it too much... I'm bummed because compiz doesn't work anymore, but the S-video on my laptop finally works... It's always something ;) | 03:10 |
jonpackard | Could anyone with an NVidia card please help me confirm this bug? It affects Alpha1 and Alpha2 using the nv driver. Bug 245383. | 03:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 245383 in xserver-xorg-video-nv "Screen flickers when loading applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245383 | 03:28 |
Sonicadvance1 | With the latest kernel, the Usb input struct has changed which makes the xpad360 module not compile correctlyl. Anyone have any information on this? | 03:29 |
Sonicadvance | woops, restarted my desktop | 03:37 |
Shoopuf | If I have a question about the new Ibex theme "NewWave" would this be the place to ask about it? | 03:56 |
Shoopuf | With the NewWave theme I noticed that sometimes the "title bar" flashes to white then back to the original dark-gray color. | 03:57 |
RAOF | That sounds like a long-standing nvidia bug with compiz. Is it? | 03:58 |
Shoopuf | RAOF: Sounds about right, I *am* using both Nvidia and Compiz-Fusion. :X | 04:00 |
Shoopuf | RAOF: Should I file a bug report? :P | 04:03 |
RAOF | Shoopuf: No, it's (a) known, and (b) nvidia's problem. | 04:06 |
Shoopuf | ok :) thanks for the answers RAOF... | 04:07 |
smallfoot- | make so i can rename device volume label on partition - http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3985/labelab6.png | 04:56 |
teethdood | off topic, but I'm running wires for a gigabit network. Should I get cat5e or be safe and get cat6? | 05:18 |
fr500 | cat6 | 05:25 |
teethdood | ok I'm gonna need to take out another business loan then | 05:27 |
fr500 | is firefox crashing when saving files for anyone else? | 05:50 |
nekostar | hey does the 8.10 kubuntu have the kde4? | 05:50 |
RAOF | Yes. | 05:51 |
nekostar | fr500 change your theme | 05:51 |
fr500 | nekostar: firefox theme? | 05:52 |
nekostar | gnome theme | 05:52 |
s3a | can i do good bug reports (other than kernel stuff since its a vm) in virtualbox-ose by mounting the .iso of the 8.10 alpha2? | 06:17 |
jonpackard | s3a: Yes! Ubuntu needs to run in VMs too! If it doesn't we need to know about it. =) | 06:20 |
jonpackard | also.. I think you'll find a lot of people bug test in VMs.. snapshots are extremely handy | 06:20 |
s3a | k, good :), cuz to be honest i want to contribute but dont want to 1)boot in an unstable environment 2)waste discs | 06:21 |
s3a | wats the latest? | 06:22 |
s3a | alpha2? | 06:22 |
jonpackard | yep | 06:22 |
s3a | k, wait | 06:22 |
s3a | im searching for it | 06:22 |
s3a | k, i got it | 06:22 |
s3a | i think | 06:22 |
jonpackard | i had problems with the 2.6.26-3-generic kernel in virtualbox.. see bug 246067.. the kernel from Alpha1 (2.6.26-3-generic) worked fine for the most part | 06:24 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel 2.6.26.3-generic" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246067 | 06:24 |
s3a | omg live cd isnt out yet | 06:24 |
s3a | its coming in alpha3 | 06:24 |
s3a | and im just curious since im studying python atm, can i develop the ubuntu OS with python or only apps for it? | 06:25 |
jonpackard | lots of programs are written in python.. mother front ends for user programs | 06:25 |
jonpackard | er mostly.. not mother | 06:25 |
jonpackard | i think it's time for me to go to bed LOL | 06:26 |
s3a | lol | 06:26 |
s3a | i no the feeling cuz recently i mistook the firefox logo for a heart | 06:26 |
jonpackard | most of the system is written in C/C++ | 06:26 |
s3a | o that suks then for me cuz im not planning to go there yet | 06:27 |
s3a | cuz its harder | 06:27 |
jonpackard | python is awesome though =) | 06:27 |
s3a | ya its good so far for me :) | 06:27 |
s3a | anyway, i have to get back to downloading the alpha 2 and studying python | 06:27 |
Sonicadvance | C/C++ isn't really hard. :P | 06:27 |
s3a | well i guess ill worry about that next summer vacation | 06:29 |
s3a | i rely want a quad core | 06:29 |
s3a | lol but thats another topic | 06:29 |
Sonicadvance | Go with Intel unless AMD pulls something out of nowhere | 06:30 |
s3a | ya i no im planning to get a q6600 but ill get it next year by then octa cores should make that cpu soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cheap | 06:30 |
teethdood | interesting how 2 years ago AMD was kicking Intel's ass | 06:30 |
s3a | and intels octas will have hyper threading | 06:31 |
Sonicadvance | Yes, but the Core 2 architecture wastes AMD | 06:31 |
s3a | well actually | 06:31 |
s3a | if amd had much higher clock speeds | 06:31 |
s3a | and under 64 bit | 06:31 |
s3a | it would beat core 2 quads of the same clock frequency | 06:31 |
s3a | but there isnt no super high clocked amd x4 so thats not the case | 06:32 |
s3a | i read that | 06:32 |
Sonicadvance | a Intel quad compiles the linux kernel in about 1/4 the time my phenom does | 06:32 |
s3a | and btw is there a .torrent for the alpha2? | 06:32 |
s3a | Sonicadvance: are u a 64 bit user? | 06:33 |
jonpackard | s3a: So the stipulation there is that a Phenom X4 CPU at Clockspeed X is equal to a Core 2 Quad at clock speed X? | 06:33 |
Sonicadvance | yes | 06:33 |
s3a | jonpackard: no | 06:33 |
s3a | jonpackard: im not sure honestly but all i no is in the high clock frequencies thats wen amd will win but they dont have any high clocked x4s so its not a real life statement im making | 06:33 |
s3a | well its not my statement anyway | 06:34 |
s3a | its this site's | 06:34 |
Sonicadvance | I've never heard about this news | 06:34 |
jonpackard | ahh i see.. it's all theoretical that if all the clock speeds jumped up a few notches the Phenom would start to whup arse :) | 06:34 |
s3a | ya it would win against a intel at high clock but not at low clocks wen they both have same clock, it must have to do with some kind of memory stuff or multiplications or wtv, i dont wanna say more in case i say wrong things | 06:35 |
jonpackard | I like AMD.. I hope they can pull ahead of the core 2 quads soon.. pehaps the Phenom X3 can beat a Core 2 Duo in the same price range.. not everybody can afford a Core 2 Quad =) | 06:36 |
Sonicadvance | might as well as go with a Phenom X4 since it's not much more expensive | 06:41 |
s3a | jonpackard: well u cant say that about the q6600 | 06:41 |
s3a | q600 is 209$ canadian last time i checked | 06:42 |
s3a | and im downloading the alpha2 torrent on my laptop it should be done by tomorrow | 06:42 |
tanath | my upgrade to intrepid failed because of this: postalias: fatal: open /etc/aliases: Permission denied | 07:22 |
tanath | upgrading postfix | 07:23 |
tanath | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64 2006-03-17 16:40 /etc/aliases | 07:23 |
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Hondo_Kitsune | So... this is the channel for 8.10 | 10:30 |
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ramvi | I'm customizing the livecd with the help of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization . I try to start gnome to do changes from there, with /etc/init.d/gdm start (howto in the comments), but what is the username and the password? | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | ubuntu, iirc | 12:52 |
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chattan | I can't login in Ubuntu 8.10 alpha 2 which i use VMware install, any1 help me ,thanks a lot | 13:42 |
coz_ | hey guys | 16:26 |
coz_ | tried intrepid but kept getting error that greeter is crashing | 16:26 |
Hobbsee | yes, it keeps doing that. | 16:26 |
coz_ | Hobbsee, oh my.. well I guess I will try again next week then :) | 16:27 |
coz_ | is autodetec for wacom tablets planned for intrepid?? | 16:28 |
coz_ | autodetect | 16:29 |
jacob | aside from the current mesa/compiz incompatibility, does anyone notice some really strange 3D/accelerated 2D behavior, such as the framebuffer being stuck to the screen? | 16:33 |
coz_ | jacob, mm I havent even been able to boot into intrepid yet :) | 16:38 |
jacob | coz_: did you install from the alpha image(s)? you might want to drop to recovery mode and apply all updates | 16:38 |
coz_ | jacob, i did that as well and still no boot however I was just testing last night so its no big deal at this point | 16:39 |
jacob | coz_: i *thought* i saw that was fixed, but it might be still happening, idk :P | 16:39 |
coz_ | jacob, here the greeter keeps crashing so.. | 16:39 |
jacob | coz_: i'm guessing it has to do with bug 245888 | 16:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 245888 in mesa "Intrepid, on latest updates (mesa updates - 7.1~rc1-0ubuntu1), compiz no longer works and gives white screen on login" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245888 | 16:41 |
coz_ | reading | 16:41 |
coz_ | jacob, no surprising :) alpha can be a pain sometimes | 16:43 |
coz_ | :) | 16:43 |
jacob | aye | 16:44 |
jacob | for whatever reason i decided to run nautilus as root yesterday and somehow managed to spawn gnome-session.... bad idea. | 16:44 |
coz_ | o0 | 16:44 |
jacob | ended up with / chmod'd 700... couldn't login or execute anything | 16:44 |
jacob | gave the visual effect of rm dash rf slash, the dialogs lost their font rendering and everything was boxes :P | 16:45 |
coz_ | well during these interums between versions I am running austrumi, a slackware based OS that runs in memory, it also has a minimal compiz fusion,,,it tides me over until things start working again :) | 16:46 |
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jacob | :P i'm just running an intrepid/hardy dual boot | 16:46 |
coz_ | jacob, ah yeah i should have done that actually but I have dual boot with xp so right now i can only run austrumi because grub is gone at this point | 16:47 |
towolf | hi ppl, i dist-upgraded to intrepid and now many devices are listed twice or more in the diverse gnome applets: battery, NICs, audio cards | 17:09 |
towolf | how come, why is hal reporting the devices more than once? | 17:09 |
gnomefreak | if thats his only issue hhould be extreamly happy | 18:41 |
pheeror | Has .26 made it to intrepid yet? | 19:54 |
* pheeror would have to start up his laptop to find out himself | 19:54 | |
seisen | yes it has | 19:55 |
seisen | 2.6.26.3 | 19:55 |
pheeror | eh | 19:55 |
pheeror | it's probably 2.6.26-3 | 19:56 |
seisen | probably | 19:57 |
pheeror | and it's still based on rc, no problem though | 19:58 |
Calvin | would someone please tell me about using ubuntu, does it take over your computer and what are the advantages of using ubuntu? | 21:21 |
lamalex_2 | Ubuntu does not teach patience unfortunately :( | 21:24 |
sioux | hi :-) | 21:32 |
jbroome | lamalex_2: are you kidding, have you been in #ubuntu? :) | 21:33 |
sioux | developers.... intrepid will be delivered with last saa7134 driver? | 21:34 |
sioux | hardy still use a old state of saa7134... many new board are been added | 21:36 |
daekdroom | sioux: Is saa7134 part of linux kernel? If so, it'll deliver the lastest. | 21:38 |
lamalex_2 | jbroome: NEVER. | 21:39 |
sioux | 2.6.25 yes | 21:39 |
daekdroom | Ubuntu Intrepid is using 2.6.26rc(x) | 21:40 |
daekdroom | I think rc9 | 21:40 |
sioux | here i had reconfigure a custom kernel | 21:40 |
sioux | i use hadry with 2.6.25.6 | 21:41 |
daekdroom | Hardy doesn't get updates like from a module version to other one when Final is released. | 21:41 |
daekdroom | That's why it doesn't deliver the lastest saa7134 | 21:41 |
sioux | also gspcav1 should be nice | 21:43 |
sioux | but that is not part of linux kernel | 21:44 |
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coz_ | I try to boot and get stopped at (initramfs) is it expecting me to do something? | 23:03 |
daekdroom | coz_, I think that means your system is broken | 23:12 |
coz_ | daekdroom, :) yes it appears that is true what I have been doing is simply typing "exit" then it looks for files for boot and then of course I get greeter crashing still :) | 23:14 |
coz_ | oops | 23:14 |
coz_ | daekdroom, yes I type "exit" then it proceeds | 23:14 |
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