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| Kano | hi, could somebody merge 2.6.26 final? | 08:04 |
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| Liou | How can I know what symbols were exported by the kernel | 08:58 |
| Kano | usally when you see an error then they are not exported ;) | 09:00 |
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| Kano | hi BenC , did you see 2.6.26 final? | 15:26 |
| BenC | No, I'm completely oblivious to what goes on in the kernel world | 15:28 |
| Kano | then you know what i am waiting for already ;) | 15:29 |
| BenC | then you know that I'm not rushing just for you :) | 15:29 |
| Kano | well for all others too ;) | 15:30 |
| emma | Good morning, I would like to bring a certain kernel specific problem to the attention of someone with the expertise to elevate it to prominence. | 15:31 |
| emma | I myself have zero skills but I am friends with dozens of ubuntu users and many of them have begun to experience the same bug. Anecdotally I think it may be a problem that is making people migrate away from using Ubuntu. | 15:32 |
| amitk | emma: is there a bug number? | 15:33 |
| emma | Yes, I'll post it right now. | 15:33 |
| emma | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/228624 | 15:34 |
| emma | People with this bug apparently can no longer use their optical drives which leaves them thinking Ubuntu is not a viable option for them. Usually they have a lot of regret for reaching that point, and they are concerned that this bug is unnoticed. | 15:36 |
| emma | I really appreciate you taking a look. Thanks so much. | 15:36 |
| ln- | 12:36 < amitk> ln-: If you want JustWorks (TM), you have to either help during beta testing or get a s | 15:41 |
| ln- | upport contract. It is unrealistic to expect that a distribution will hit all your target usecases. | 15:41 |
| amitk | ln-: Testing early certainly helps. It is kinda hard to buy and test on all the hardware available out there :) On the other hand, sometimes it might be only a Ubuntu problem that needs to be looked into | 15:45 |
| amitk | emma: all_generic_ide=1 seems tosolve the problem for many, have you tried that? | 15:46 |
| emma | amitk: This isn't a problem that I personally have right now. But I will pass that along to the several people I know who have been talking about it. | 15:48 |
| amitk | emma: it also helps to know if this worked on other distros for them | 15:49 |
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| emma | I will find out and report back to you. | 15:52 |
| danutzu | hello | 15:55 |
| danutzu | please | 15:55 |
| danutzu | help me | 15:55 |
| ln- | please express yourself with fewer newlines. | 15:55 |
| danutzu | my pidgin is closing when I'm joining the yahoo chat | 15:56 |
| danutzu | pleaseeee!!!!! | 15:56 |
| ln- | danutzu: what part of the kernel is responsible for yahoo chat, what do you think? | 15:57 |
| danutzu | I donw know man | 15:57 |
| danutzu | :| | 15:57 |
| danutzu | just help me to make pidgin yahoo to work | 15:58 |
| danutzu | please | 15:58 |
| danutzu | when I right my yahoo id and password an then when I push the save button the yahoo pidgin doesn't login :| he close himself:| | 15:59 |
| danutzu | please just tell me how do I make-it work | 15:59 |
| mjg59 | danutzu: #ubuntu is a better place to ask this | 16:00 |
| danutzu | good | 16:01 |
| danutzu | thx | 16:01 |
| zbrown | amitk: hi :) | 16:24 |
| amitk | zbrown: hi | 16:25 |
| zbrown | I'm the person thats had issues with the dvd drive | 16:25 |
| zbrown | well one of many | 16:25 |
| amitk | ogasawara: hey, do you think 228624 should go onto the recommended list? | 16:30 |
| ogasawara | amitk: I was going to put it on there but it's not technically tested against intrepid yet | 16:31 |
| amitk | zbrown: ^ would you be bold enough to install the intrepid kernel? | 16:33 |
| zbrown | I was going to test with intrepid yesterday but the installer hung up twice on me | 16:33 |
| zbrown | amitk: on top of Gutsy? | 16:33 |
| zbrown | or does it really matter what release it is? | 16:33 |
| amitk | zbrown: on top of Gutsy isn't tested, but we're running the kernel on Hardy | 16:33 |
| zbrown | well Hardy isn't on the laptop anymore | 16:33 |
| Kano | BenC: is there a tag missing? | 16:34 |
| amitk | zbrown: it can matter... udev, hal, etc. | 16:34 |
| zbrown | amitk: would it work via installing Wubi? | 16:35 |
| zbrown | I have a windows partition on here | 16:35 |
| zbrown | I'm not willing to blow away gutsy and put hardy back on to test, its my only computer as I'm travelling for the summer | 16:36 |
| zbrown | but if wubi would work | 16:36 |
| amitk | zbrown: wubi install would work, install hardy and upgrade to a intrepid kernel | 16:48 |
| zbrown | amitk: hmmm ok, I'll see wwhat I can do | 16:48 |
| zbrown | amitk: hmmm is wubi going to fight with the standard grub boot loader? | 16:48 |
| zbrown | or am I just going to go through two boot loaders? | 16:48 |
| cking | zbrown: I believe it should be OK. | 16:49 |
| zbrown | ok | 16:50 |
| cking | zbrown: as long as you have enough space on your Windows NTFS partition it should be fairly straight forward | 16:50 |
| zbrown | cking: I've got plenty it looks like | 16:51 |
| zbrown | 40 gigs, with only 5 used | 16:51 |
| cking | zbrown: Cool. I think 4-6 GB free is plenty | 16:51 |
| zbrown | now if anl.gov would just be a faster mirror | 16:51 |
| cking | :) | 16:51 |
| zbrown | I dunno why it picks anl.gov over usc.edu | 16:52 |
| zbrown | I'm in LA... usc.edu is maybe 10 miles from me lol | 16:52 |
| zbrown | I'm not sure how far Google SMO is from usc | 16:52 |
| ogasawara | zbrown: after you've tested care to post another comment to the bug report | 16:54 |
| zbrown | sure | 16:54 |
| zbrown | good thing this wasn't yeseterday :) | 16:54 |
| zbrown | I was especially pissed yesterday | 16:55 |
| amitk | zbrown: yesterday was sunday :) | 17:00 |
| zbrown | indeed | 17:00 |
| zbrown | ogasawara: whats your preferred method for me to upgrde the kernel? | 17:27 |
| zbrown | upgrade the entire system or just go download the kernel? | 17:27 |
| ogasawara | zbrown: I'd try just upgrading the kernel | 17:28 |
| zbrown | ok | 17:30 |
| zbrown | hmmm apparently medibuntu is down for once | 17:42 |
| zbrown | curses | 17:42 |
| zbrown | ogasawara: same problem | 17:44 |
| zbrown | cking: and same problem | 17:44 |
| zbrown | cking: ogasawara: I've updated the bug with my results from dmesg | 17:47 |
| michi666 | hi all, can anybody help my with usb driver programming? | 18:08 |
| amitk | michi666: this isn't the right channel for it. You shoul d try kerneljanitor or kernelnewbies.org or usb-devel | 18:14 |
| ajonat | Hi! when i do fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules-generic, i get that the target doesn't exist (binary-modules-generic).. what am I doing wrong? I'm compiling from hardy's git btw | 18:19 |
| ajonat | I'm following the KernelMaintaince and Kernel/Compile guides | 18:20 |
| ajonat | I've succesfully compiled binary-generic and binary-headers but binary-modules-generic doesn't seem to exist.. | 18:22 |
| amitk | ajonat: what arch do you have installed? | 18:23 |
| Kano | ajonat: time debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic | 18:23 |
| Kano | well use fakeroot ;) | 18:23 |
| ajonat | Kano, gonna try that :) | 18:24 |
| ajonat | Kano, that builds the image, headers and modules? | 18:24 |
| Kano | thats for lum | 18:24 |
| Kano | time debian/rules binary-debs flavours=generic skipabi=true skipmodule=true | 18:25 |
| Kano | time debian/rules binary-headers | 18:25 |
| Kano | thats for the kernel | 18:25 |
| ajonat | Kano, ok, thank you! | 18:25 |
| Kano | i use the skip overrides because i dislike stops when it is basically done ;) | 18:26 |
| ajonat | oh, and one more question? what does NOEXTRAS mean? | 18:26 |
| ajonat | can't find it in the docs | 18:27 |
| Kano | dont know what you mean,but to compile lum you have to install the kernel headers you compiled first | 18:29 |
| zbrown | Any likelihood of you guys updating the Madwifi drivers in Hardy? The current ones are too old to support the Atheros 5212 chipset properly | 18:35 |
| zbrown | can scan, but can't connect | 18:35 |
| amitk | zbrown: file a bug and QA will consider it for the next SRU | 18:38 |
| zbrown | amitk: hmmm ok, I think there's a big bug thats got several Ahteros chipsets listed as not working and wanting a madwifi update | 18:39 |
| zbrown | amitk: should I file an individual one for atherose 5212? | 18:39 |
| zbrown | I already posted to that bug saying that 5212 wasn't working either | 18:39 |
| amitk | zbrown: adding to that is fine | 18:41 |
| zbrown | amitk: ok, done then | 18:42 |
| zbrown | amitk: 122703 <-- thast the bug number | 18:43 |
| amitk | zbrown: it is unlikely to get fixed until madwifi.org releases a new version. It is hard to include directly from trunk while ensuring no regressions. | 18:47 |
| zbrown | hmmm | 18:47 |
| zbrown | amitk: thats doubtful to happen as they've mainly focused on ath5k which fails to build all together | 18:47 |
| zbrown | on Hardy | 18:48 |
| zbrown | or Gutsy | 18:48 |
| zbrown | (atherose 5212 is also broken in Feisty and Gutsy) | 18:48 |
| amitk | rtg: ^^^ | 18:48 |
| zbrown | I have Gutsy on the laptop now and had to build my own drivers | 18:48 |
| zbrown | and a friend has the same laptop as I still running Feisty and he had to build madwifi himself as well | 18:49 |
| zbrown | amitk: "ath5k is a relatively new and emerging driver and does not depend on the HAL. It is intended to replace MadWifi in the long run and exceed it feature-wise. ath5k is where most of our development resources are spent on now." <-- from the madwifi site | 18:49 |
| zbrown | honestly something needs to change | 18:49 |
| zbrown | otherwise you're killing about 5 or 6 releases of atheros chipsets since ath5k isn't in the kernel | 18:50 |
| zbrown | and won't build with it | 18:50 |
| === BenC changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.26-4.10 (based on 2.6.26 final) | Latest news: Please test last-good-boot, now in intrepid (grub/module-init-tools) | Next meeting: July 22, 16:00 UTC | Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com | ||
| pwnguin | http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/127218.html dave jones SMASH | 20:21 |
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