=== zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [04:28] hello, i have a problem with wifi network key saving when using a regular user. when I reboot the system and log in the the regular user it keeps on prompting for the network key. how do I allow a regular user to access wifi without the need to reenter network key on every reboot? === adam is now known as maxamillion === gaurdro_ is now known as gaurdro === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [07:59] hello all [08:00] Hello! :) [08:20] Hello [08:21] hi Applerust [08:21] How goes it? [08:21] Applerust: that's my line [08:22] haha, not this time I guess :) [08:22] * TheSheep hacks a wiki parser [08:22] I joined you all in search of some help. I kinda need someone to hold my hand a bit with an xbuntu installation on my laptop. [08:23] Up for dealing out some advice? [08:23] I can answer questions but no hand-holding [08:23] Fair enough. Let me fetch my laptop. [08:27] I have returned [08:28] I have installed Xbuntu completely on the laptop as far as I know. If I let it load normally I get an Xbuntu logo with a progress bar below it that gets hung up. Seems as if the computer is frozen. [08:28] 2 lights blink on the laptop and continue blinking into eternity. [08:29] so.. I tried another boot method. [08:29] recovery mode [08:29] which is attempting to load now. [08:30] I get an error: [08:30] the blinking leds sound like a kernel panic [08:31] Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt [08:31] heh [08:31] I must be talking to the right person. [08:31] how old is that laptopt? [08:31] good call [08:32] hmm, I dont know for sure. its a dell. inspiron 5100. [08:32] had win xp on it but I decided I want to learn linux better. [08:32] xbuntu runs off of the cd if I run it that way. [08:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459157 <-- looks familiar? [08:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237852 [08:35] is where I was [08:35] ok ill try to remove the wireless card. [08:36] I gotta run to work, be back in an hour [08:36] Thanks for your help. [08:43] hi [08:44] hey [08:44] hey [08:44] hows it going? [08:44] ??? [08:44] ? [08:44] How are you? [08:45] good. u? [08:45] decent. [08:51] Hello y'all, anyone else experiencing issues with the screensaver in xubuntu? [08:52] microwaver, I imagine [08:52] microwaver, whats your problem? [08:52] Sorry, im completely new. trying to get one of my wireless cards to work in xbuntu atm. [08:53] 1 of them freeze the computer and the other just does nothing. [08:53] cody-somerville, well, it just doesn't do what I tell it too :) in applications > settings > settings manager > screensaver I set it on 3 minutes. it just does the 10 minutes standard blank screen; even tho I disabled all of that in powersave menu [08:54] cool :) lol [08:54] microwaver, Can you give me the output of ~/.dmrc ? [08:55] cody-somerville, just cat ~/.dmcr ? [08:55] ~/.dmrc [08:56] No such file or directory [08:56] but when I cat it I get this : [08:56] [Desktop] [08:56] Session=default [08:57] Right [08:57] So, I need you to logout [08:57] and click session [08:57] and select xfce [08:57] and then log back in [08:57] i'm in xfce [08:57] Select yes to make it your default [08:57] I don't have any other desktop installed [08:57] I know [08:57] And thats why you're experiencing this bug [08:57] ok [08:57] let's see then [08:57] see you in 2 sec [08:58] okay :) [09:00] I feel kinda overwhelmed. Way too used to windows. [09:01] when I ran xbuntu off the cd the wireless card worked automatically. now if I plug the one that worked in the computer freezes. kind of at a loss. [09:01] after the installation that is. [09:02] Applerust, I can try giving you a hand later but I need to get to bed [09:04] Ok, goodnight. [09:05] cody-somerville, thanks for the help, it did just what I wanted [09:05] microwaver, np :] [09:06] Hello, does anyone here have compiz installed and may be able to help me out a little bit please? [09:06] so Applerust what's your problem? [09:06] thats a broad question for me :) [09:07] but at the moment id say its the inability to do anything for myself concerning this wireless card situation. [09:07] I have 2 wireless cards. 1 is a linksys and 1 is an old netgear. they both work just not on this laptop with xbuntu. [09:07] Applerust, so your problem is : make the cards work on xubuntu. [09:07] however the netgear one did work when I had xbuntu running off of the cd earlier before I actually installed it. [09:08] so a driver issue [09:08] yeah [09:08] do you have any restricted driver running? [09:08] if it was a driver issue then why did it work off the cd before I installed it? [09:08] I dont know. the only linux system I have ever used was damn small linux and I have forgotten most of that. [09:08] cd can have diff driver than distro sometimes I noticed it earlier or sometimes have more by default [09:09] well I installed it off the same cd as it was running on. [09:09] it screwed up in autodetection? [09:09] the netgear freezes the computer and the linksys just does nothing. [09:10] as for the restricted driver.. the hardware drivers list is completely empty. [09:10] what model of linksys card? [09:10] wusb54gsc [09:12] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764311&highlight=wireless+connection+linksys+wireless-g [09:12] basically the same problem here. [09:12] what's in the file /var/log/syslog after you plug in your device [09:12] sec I will plug it in [09:13] it says new device added [09:13] it sees it [09:13] sadly I am used to doing this for fedora just recently tried xubunto myself [09:14] so since it sees it.. then what? [09:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368931 [09:14] should have some help there perhaps if you read their steps [09:15] ok reading it now. [09:15] page 2 had their solution [09:16] top of it [09:17] I'm typically good at figuring out hardware problems but I can't do something most consider easy...changing desktop themes >.< [09:18] when I was told ubuntu was like a mix between windows and dos.. they should have said its pretty like windows but almost everything is done like dos :) [09:18] I read it.. Im gonna try it now if I can find the right stuff. [09:19] kk [09:19] yep hopefully it does I've loved fedora before [09:19] just recently preffered simpler installer of xbunto myself [09:20] XP for my games and cs3 and xbunto for...everything else [09:21] cs3? [09:21] photoshop? [09:21] yep [09:21] and illustrator [09:21] I have that [09:21] good stuff [09:21] I use xp pro as well on my main machine. [09:22] I input the code in the terminal. [09:22] it says my cpp and gcc are already the newest versions. [09:22] everything else unavailable. [09:23] hmm well trying to think....perhaps it's trying to use wrong dirver is what I'm thinking [09:23] I had that happen once before [09:23] what is make of other card perhaps better luck with that one? [09:24] netgear 802.11b model ma401 [09:26] how do I check the driver for the usb linksys card I have in already? [09:26] I dont even have the option for a wireless network under network. [09:27] WindowsMD, how do you emulate your photoshop and illustrator, Vbox? [09:28] I don't emulate it.... [09:28] I have a particition set for xp [09:28] much simpler [09:29] 'participation set' ? [09:29] partition [09:29] yep aka I boot into xp for that part [09:29] and for your other one [09:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/95817 [09:29] so he has an option upon boot up to choose which OS he wants. [09:29] bug report [09:29] Launchpad bug 95817 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Hardy's Kernel Panics With Netgear MA401 PCMCIA Wireless Installed ( Gutsy and Feisty as well )" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:30] right.. thats why the lights were blinking and the computer froze. [09:30] yep [09:30] yeah i got that [09:30] but never heard of participation set :p [09:31] used to dualboot as well. but now since I've got this laptop my desktop = XP. laptop xubuntu [09:31] yeah I use a tower and my old laptop used to be a fedora machine [09:32] what version of xubunto u using? [09:32] apple [09:33] man.. I read a lot of those posts about this problem.. I see no solution in sight. the search continues.. be back in a few after I read more. [09:33] applerust what version? [09:33] latest? [09:34] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/problem-wwusb54gsc-in-ubuntu-8.04-639797/ [09:34] this looks promising [09:34] for your other card [09:35] version of? xbuntu? [09:36] yep [09:36] newest I think.. I downloaded it and burned the image today. [09:36] there may be some updates.. I guess I could plug it in and try it. [09:37] yeah but check that last link I sent [09:37] it's for the other card [09:37] k, checking [09:37] could be ndis prob [09:38] I used to do linux searches for people as a chacha guide and stilll occassionally do when I login [09:41] so that work? [09:41] hard wired in atm. just updated. [09:41] kk [09:41] try what link said all? [09:41] was a small update [09:41] not yet still reading. [09:42] small makes big differences usually though ^.^ I know of windows updates that did less than small linux ones . [09:42] I guess I should actually try to download the driver first of all.. lol [09:42] I dont update windows at all ever.. [09:42] ever [09:42] sp 2 is enough for me [09:43] I have to...windows is too dumb to read my audio/gfx chipset automatically unlike latest xubunto I used wubi installer [09:45] imho wubi is one of best moves of whole community that kind of installer...it'll def encourage Vista users to come over...when they can't get their printers to work... [09:46] hello? [09:46] ok, I found out the problem. [09:47] the other wireless card required the amount of power an USB 2.0 slot would give. [09:47] what was it? [09:47] this is an older laptop.. [09:47] oh [09:47] I used an older wireless card from my wifes crap computer. [09:47] works fine [09:47] ahh [09:48] glad that worked for you then [09:48] so I could have done any amount of software fixes I wanted... none of it would have worked :) [09:48] I do appreciate your help however. [09:48] wish you would've told me older labtop to start lol [09:48] it's alright [09:48] tyvm [09:48] I had no idea it wasnt a 2.0 slot.. [09:49] I thought 2.0 had been around longer than they had I guess. [09:49] oh I could've had you run a test to check that lol [09:49] so now I need to learn linux in general. [09:49] Im wondering why it isnt slightly more user friendly than it is? loads more people would switch to it if it was. [09:50] well I haven't had to touch terminal very much at all thanks to synaptic package manager [09:50] windows 3.1 is more user friendly. [09:50] synaptic package manager.. explain please. [09:50] haha [09:50] I say something funny? [09:51] you know windows add/remove programs...if it could find programs and dl them and install them for you...it would be same [09:51] Ooo sweet! [09:51] and you don't have to touch terminal xd [09:51] looks like I just found my first thing to download. [09:51] it's built in [09:51] Oo [09:51] check under applications system [09:51] now you see how new I am? :) [09:52] frankly could've been more user friendly of name....like program finder [09:52] or something along those lines [09:52] hey guys, I have to agree, synaptic is one of the things I fell in love with ubuntu on first sight :) [09:52] I used to run Suse for few years, but then tried ubuntu and I`m still on it... [09:53] well until they make it work with direct X 9 I got keep switching xd [09:53] Im checking it out now. [09:53] but have to admit suse improved its pack. management as well especially with new 11.0 [09:53] I'm prob switching back to fedora later [09:54] yum apt-get =P [09:54] SPM.. this is sick! [09:55] yepppers....I don't need synaptic.... [09:55] it just makes life a bit easier [09:55] but you want it? [09:55] k [09:56] I prefer better documentation of fedora [09:56] plus I do like their interface a bit better [09:56] fedora was one I looked into getting. my friend suggested ubuntu over fedora for me to start on. [09:56] yeah [09:56] ubunto=more user friendly [09:56] strange thing is, I found lot's of usefull doc's on gentoo wiki that worked for my ubuntu problems :P [09:57] yeah gentoo is another great one [09:57] I dont plan on having any problems :) [09:57] lol [09:57] yep, so anything real basic you need to know and that? [09:58] btw did you already install amarak=wmp [09:58] any suggestions on apps I might need/want for typical use? [09:58] well for music amarak [09:58] amarak, no I have no idea what that is. [09:58] windows media player basically [09:59] gotcha [09:59] abiword=m$ word [09:59] though I just use google docs [09:59] I saw abiword. I was going to ask about that one. [09:59] k then. [09:59] firefox comes already on there.. which I like loads. [10:00] google docs I think is superior to any office prog really [10:00] u familiar with that web based app of theirs? [10:00] amarok rocks [10:00] you could also use openoffice :) [10:01] I have used open office on xp. I hated it. it was bug city. [10:01] I never had real issues with it in xp [10:01] I have heard of google docs [10:01] google docs rock you replace word, excel, and ppt [10:01] Ill give it a try. [10:01] yeah I sold my soul to google a long time ago [10:02] thunderbird=outlook [10:02] I dont use outlook. I use yahoo and gmail [10:02] you are already using pidgin I presume? [10:02] ahh [10:02] yes [10:03] pidgin is great [10:03] I use it on xp as well xd [10:03] same [10:03] I did start with trillian but then switched over due to superior logging abilities [10:04] ohh I used good ol trillian way back when it was free when it first came out. [10:04] used to love it. [10:04] well you already have movie player right? [10:04] hmm [10:04] so how do I actually install things from SPM? [10:05] I have winamp on my main machine. I use that for multimedia. [10:05] you right click and it'll be on option or check box then hit apply [10:05] I use wmp 11 [10:05] I use an external for all my music [10:05] that's only reason I use it [10:05] hmm [10:05] I have already tried right clicking. it comes up with options.. but [10:05] mark for installation is greyed out. [10:06] maybe because it is already installed? [10:06] and I didnt know it? [10:06] I guess green means I have it and white means I dont. [10:06] lol [10:06] how mutch did they give you in place? [10:06] a good bit [10:07] hardly anything I can think you'll need that isn't pre-installed unless amarak or movie player wasn't [10:07] I wont use the laptop for movies or music. except maybe youtube or something like that [10:08] ahh and give google docs a try [10:08] hmm, new question. [10:08] though I never had issues with it on fedora [10:08] yeah I have google docs open on this machine. [10:08] openoffice [10:09] I see a few things in the spm list with the ubuntu symbol beside them that are not installed. [10:09] firmware and kernel sources. [10:09] these would be good to have I assume? [10:09] well I'd read description and what I'd use is...an old rule I use for windows machines [10:09] if it ain't broke don't fix it [10:10] fair enough. I live by that with my car. [10:11] yeppers [10:11] I assume most windows programs will not run on ubuntu. [10:11] what apps you got in mind? [10:12] games mainly [10:12] no direct x games will run unless you use wine.... [10:12] and gl with that [10:12] anything special I should do for flash support? [10:13] well I found the browser itself is extremely helpful [10:13] I do'nt have any real flash erros here [10:13] firefox did a good job on that [10:13] yep [10:13] plus adobe worked with em this time I think [10:13] which probably helped [10:14] ok.. so in SPM almost everything on the list is already on my machine. will all of those programs automatically update or is that something I will do manually? [10:14] well I think most apps will check for new versions automatically [10:14] great [10:15] or you just bring up the manager and it'll check for ya [10:16] and something hilarious for ya...my old gateway keyboard with a sub sideport gets better detection in xubunto [10:17] strange [10:17] I think linux beats xp for usb support [10:17] ok.. heres one. [10:17] I just tried to play a flash movie. its giving me an option of 3 things to install. [10:18] adobe flash (which I am used to) swfdec, and gnash swf [10:18] I assume go with adobe? [10:18] yeppers [10:18] also go with default you think typically [10:18] like if you go to runescape or another java based site [10:18] I went with gnash, no problems there as well. [10:19] use sun [10:19] sun java is what I am used to. [10:19] I am used to anything standard for windows. [10:20] yep I figured [10:20] hmm flashplugin-nonfree [10:20] if you were a mac user you'd probably have no reason to try it xd [10:21] I assume I need this as well. Hey guys.. sorry for all the questions. [10:21] I'm still considering buying a mac as my new system but I'm not sure of the parallels software if it is good for game performance [10:21] I read something somewhere on the forums about not downloading the flashplugin-nonfree for some reason. any truth to this? [10:22] Macs are basically PCs now anyway. [10:22] go with whatever is cost effective. [10:22] yeah but for game support :) [10:23] well frankly that's why you buy a win xp machine to dual boot xd [10:23] what game do you have in mind that will run on mac that wont run on a pc? [10:23] fruity loops is a game...practically [10:23] but it's mac only [10:23] fruity loops.. the program for making music? [10:23] yeah [10:23] that is not for mac only. [10:24] I have used it on a pc many times. [10:24] had loads and loads of sound samples. lost them all from my dog using my cds as chew toys. [10:25] lol [10:25] actually now that I think about it.. I doubt fruit loops started on Macs.. it was probably on PCs first. [10:26] yeah, but imovie is prob a good example of a practical toy [10:28] not familiar with that [10:28] it's part of apple's exclusive ilife suite [10:29] I used that before...though i must admit windows movie maker in vista is decent, though vista itself isn't, and apple's program is superior for movie editing to both of them [10:29] err adobe's [10:29] I am so ignorant with anything related to Linux. (I hate vista) [10:30] I installed the flash plugin. do I need to restart my laptop or something? it still says I need to download the flash player to view flash movies. [10:30] so crossover fixes game support? [10:30] crossover? [10:30] now you got my interest [10:30] will it run guild wars? [10:31] guild wars any good? [10:31] decent [10:31] good enough till d3 [10:31] compare it to WoW? [10:31] same or better without monthly fee [10:31] ahh I am so rdy for sc2 [10:31] same [10:31] maybe ill try guild wars then. [10:31] I'm ready for Diablo 3 /) [10:32] I hope d3 and sc2 have full opengl support [10:32] .tar.gz .rpm or YUM? [10:32] any ideas? [10:32] hmm micro would it be rpm? [10:32] SC2 looks amazing so far. I heard with D3 that you have to go to another planet. [10:32] I'm too used to yum with fedora I'm tempted to say that [10:33] they'd better announce some more classes on dia3 [10:33] well I guess I am about to DL adobeflashplayer YUM then. [10:33] well I don't mind my necros being gone [10:34] Ive heard of .tar.gz but never rpm or yum [10:34] I think it goes without saying pally gonna be coming back [10:34] I just would use package manager and what ff said [10:34] and use the one built in through that [10:35] ff? [10:35] firefox [10:36] well its not working. in firefox. [10:36] and I dont see anything flash related in package manager. [10:36] I have flashplugin-nonfree [10:36] says so in package manager [10:37] yeah I'd uninstall the addon in firefox [10:37] and did you try refreshing the page? [10:37] yes I did multiple times. no luck [10:37] uninstall it in firefox.. hmm ok [10:37] I have no idea how to do that either. [10:38] prefs in firefox for lin are under edit...why it's movied from tools I dunno [10:39] that's one of my few complaints about linux version of firefox [10:39] edit pref is pretty standard though. [10:39] and then you go to manage add ons at bottom [10:39] nothing under applications. [10:39]