[00:00] apachelogger: upstream changed it to kdeplasma-addons. Does this change anything? [00:00] not kdeplasma-applets [00:04] JontheEchidna: just checking things out [00:04] aight [00:07] vorian: any way I can help with 4.1 packaging? [00:15] sure [00:15] JontheEchidna: I'll be back in <30 min [00:16] Daskreech: [19:15:10] bettio * r832562 workspace/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/analog-clock/ (4 files): Analog clock isn't anymore a containment. [00:17] :-( [00:18] What am I going to put in my grandfather case? [00:58] JontheEchidna: you about? [00:58] yup [00:59] had to reset the router [01:09] ryanakca: ping [01:09] santiago-ve: pong [01:09] * santiago-ve waves to everyone [01:10] Hmm... has anybody seen mhb around lately? [01:11] ryanakca: i just saw the Kubuntu Website Changed... [01:11] and well.. you know i've been waiting for help on it ;) [01:11] * ryanakca nods [01:11] you know i just was passing by... to remind ya :p [01:11] santiago-ve: hehe, see my post on the planet about helping out... I'm currently working on a list of things to do :) [01:13] *coug*that's how i noticed*coug* Yeah :D sure ill look at it [01:13] santiago-ve: cheers :) [01:13] ryanakca: He's been about a bit, but said something at UDS about finding a girlfriend this summer. [01:14] ScottK: ah, ok. [01:18] Should kpovmodeler still suggest khelpcenter-kde4? [01:20] argh, no [01:20] ok, I'll fix that too [01:21] JontheEchidna: make sure to add (>= 4:4.0.83) [01:22] whoops [01:22] khelpcenter4 [01:22] JontheEchidna: ^ [01:22] k [01:23] vorian: also change kdelibs4-dev to (>= 4:4.0.83)? [01:23] currently (>= 4:4.0.4) [01:24] it should be 4:4.0.98 [01:24] check on ubuntupackages to see if it's available yet [01:25] huh [01:27] vorian: what's ubuntupackages? [01:27] packages.ubuntu.com [01:29] * JontheEchidna can't find kde4libs there [01:29] but LP says it was uploaded 13 hours ago [01:32] keep it as is [01:33] vorian: 4.0.4 for kdelibs5-dev an no specification for khelpcenter4 [01:34] nixternal: Wheee Qt Gnome :) [01:34] * JontheEchidna waits for Qt Vista [01:35] JontheEchidna: Sweet! :) [01:38] vorian: do you have an example bug report I could use for new upstream version? [01:39] sure [01:39] bug 248542 [01:39] Launchpad bug 248542 in kcoloredit "update extragear/kcoloredit to 4.0.98" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248542 [01:41] hey vorian [01:41] aloha [01:41] So [01:41] kdepim builds fine [01:41] yeah, i noticed that this morning when I woke up [01:42] * vorian was not going to stay up to watch it build [01:43] SOmeone needs to file a give-back bug [01:45] vorian: adding a replaces for kpovmodeler-kde4 [01:45] yes [01:46] * NCommander looks at the more qualified person for that ;-) [01:48] NCommander: I think there is new upstream in the wings [01:48] Watch it FTBFS on the buildd and build find with sbuild/pbuilder [01:48] vorian, on the plus side, I'm going to attack the KDE issues on SPARC [01:49] coolio [01:49] * NCommander wonders how much the sparc port is used [01:52] vorian: kde4libs 4.0.98 has been built, so I'm going ahead and putting in the (>= 4:4.0.98) for that [01:52] roger [02:02] vorian: won't build in pbuilder [02:02] ug [02:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/27382/ [02:03] JontheEchidna: let me take a closer look in a bit [02:04] vorian: I'll mosey on over to skanlite in the meantime [02:04] excellent! [02:09] !info kopete-cryptography intrepid [02:09] Package kopete-cryptography does not exist in intrepid [02:09] nooooo [02:10] Need a package synced? [02:11] !info libksane-dev [02:11] libksane-dev (source: libksane): a KDE 4 interface for the Sane library (development version). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.0-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 4 kB, installed size 88 kB [02:11] !info libksane-dev intrepid [02:11] erm [02:11] libksane-dev (source: kdegraphics): scanner library for KDE 4 (development). In component main, is extra. Version 4:4.0.83-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 8 kB, installed size 116 kB [02:15] Xand3r did a good job on skanlite for beta2 [02:22] vorian: skanlite builds [02:23] wonderful [02:23] it's revu time [02:24] kdegraphics thinks that kpovmodler is part of the source, but it is not.... [02:24] nixternal: ^ [02:24] JontheEchidna: one moment :) [02:34] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=skanlite [02:35] nod [02:40] I don't think I'll have time tonight to deal with kpovmodeler [02:40] * JontheEchidna has to go in ~20 mins [02:40] shucks [02:41] JontheEchidna: skanlite looks good :) [02:41] kewl [02:43] !find sdl_ttf [02:43] Package/file sdl_ttf does not exist in hardy [02:44] damn [02:46] Anyone happen to know what package sdl_ttf is in? [02:47] Duh! never mind [02:48] * NCommander can't figure out how to get binfmts with sparc32plus to work [02:50] vorian: Did you test this new guidance-power-manager release? [03:04] * JontheEchidna out [03:06] vorian: Here's the bug report number for povmodeler in case the packager needs it 248565 [03:06] or should I just quickly up what I've got to revu? [03:08] * JontheEchidna has to go [03:08] be back tomorrow [03:51] hmm kdemultimedia doesn't specify the upstream bug tracker; I can't seem to find how to set it [03:55] ScottK: sorry, for the delay. Tested normal, no errors. clean install, clean purge x2 [03:55] * vorian needs to change hilight colors [03:55] vorian: OK. [04:09] vorian: Where did you get the new upstream tarball for guidance-power-manager? [04:10] ScottK: from JR [04:10] OK. Where can I get it? [04:11] :) [04:17] Jucato: ping [04:24] Wow. kio-gopher - That's a blast from the past. [04:26] i never had the honor of using gopher [04:26] honour* [04:26] bleh [04:27] Do you know how it got named? [04:27] nope [04:28] I'm interested though :) [04:28] It was invented at the University of Minnesota. [04:28] ah.... [04:28] Go look up what their sports mascot is. [04:28] * Hobbsee doens't know what gopher actually is... [04:28] I'm in a Big-10 state [04:29] it's like a big fat squirl [04:29] and is terrrrrible at football (american) [04:30] hmmm, kopete-crypto passed revu [04:30] must have been rejected in new [04:35] Urgh. [04:36] guidance-power-manager pulls in some gstreamer plugins. No doubt due to some misguided recommends somewhere. [04:36] hmmm [04:44] vorian: Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. Uploaded. [04:46] It's python-kde4 that drags in the gstreamer stuff. [04:46] ScottK: no problemo [04:46] that's weird [04:51] Jucato: Helo [04:56] vorian: Note that I fixed a few other things while I was there ... [04:57] thank you [05:02] http://manchicken.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=1 [05:02] w00t! [05:04] Ha ha [05:06] ahhhh! [05:07] (not about manchicken's pics) [05:14] heh [05:31] yuriy: ...oh. dear. [05:31] but the first sequence fails. you need to get *both* sequences [05:36] ...wow, new website. [05:36] who do i poke with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ to get it fixed? [05:37] (advertising testing releases over finished releases, especially to those who have no idea what kubuntu is, probably isn't the wisest idea in the world) [05:39] It's the KDE Way [05:39] not to mention that there's no real indication of what it is there [05:39] people are just going to think it's a program you run on windows. [05:39] expect an installer of a copule of megs, and wonder why it's taking so l ong to come down [05:40] That is a very large Intrepid [05:50] Hobbsee: I have the same complaint about the site [05:59] Hobbsee: ryanakca is the primary architect. === fabo_ is now known as fabo [08:43] JontheEchidna: no, forget about it [09:13] morning [09:13] testers needed for network manager [09:13] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main [09:13] (or hardy) [09:33] hey Riddell [09:33] morning [09:33] where did you upload to yesterday? [09:34] kubuntu-members-kde4, but they didn't appear anywhere :( [09:34] hm [09:34] maybe soyuz was hungry again ;-) [09:34] without e-mail its hard to tell what's going wrong [09:35] however I'm setting up Kontact now [09:37] oh, it crashed [09:37] Oo [09:37] never did that for me [09:44] 989 new message [09:45] almost as many as I had [09:46] vorian: plasmoid-system-status crashes plasma for me [09:46] * apachelogger thinks it's quite awkward that plasmoids can crash plasma at all [09:55] ryanakca: did you reply to that russia not in asia e-mail? [09:57] vorian: works now [09:57] JontheEchidna: revued am4rok ... please send upstream a mail containing [10:56:51] amaroK has been Amarok since June 2006. Wake up :) [09:57] ryanakca: oh yes, I see you did [10:05] ryanakca: how about the rss feed one? [10:05] "Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification." hmm, not especially informative [10:10] JontheEchidna: quickaccess revued [10:42] apachelogger: I'm uploading the rest of 4.0.98 to intrepid now [10:42] ok, cool [10:49] Hmmm... how can I start the kde4 kcontrol equivalent from the commandline? Plasma does no longer start since I played with the gui settings:-( [10:49] systemsettings [11:01] JontheEchidna: wifi uploaded to new [11:19] Riddell: all of extragear is uploaded except kopete-crypto and kpovmodler [11:21] apachelogger: what caused the crash? [11:23] vorian: to intrepid? [11:23] Riddell: yes [11:23] excellent, top stuff vorian [11:23] arby and JontheEchidna helped out a lot [11:24] you all rock [11:24] Launchpad is so annoying! [11:24] hehe [11:26] vorian: incomplete rc1 in intrepid ;-) [11:26] hehe [11:27] I see where kopete-crypto passed revu, why did it not make it past new [11:27] we were wondering about that as well [11:27] also, kpovmodler thinks it's still part of kdegraphics, but it's not in the binary [11:27] but I think we didn't really find the answer :S [11:27] hmmm [11:27] that [11:27] is odd [11:27] vorian: how does kpovmodler think that? [11:28] apt-get source kpovmodler [11:28] kpovmodeler 4? [11:29] there is a -kde4 version, but I thought we were moving away from that [11:29] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=kpovmodeler [11:29] either way, kpovmodeler shouldn't be in kdegraphics anymore... :/ [11:30] hmmmmmmm [11:30] Jucato: is not [11:30] @@@tobereplacedbydesktopbase@@@ [11:30] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpovmodeler [11:31] ahhh, FTBFS [11:31] vorian: please merge the https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kpovmodeler-kde4 changelog in when you update it [11:31] I will [11:31] :) [11:31] Riddell: kdeplasma-addons/kdeplasmoids is extragear-plasma? [11:32] it was in a previous life [11:32] Riddell: can you remove it from intrepid right away or shall I file a bug for the removal? [11:33] kdm is broken for me [11:33] hm [11:34] oh [11:34] * apachelogger headdesks [11:34] forgot to fix that [11:34] * vorian hands apachelogger some coffee [11:34] cheers :) [11:35] ah, plasssma [11:39] vorian: what is the kdm error? [11:40] apachelogger: I can do it [11:47] apachelogger: 10:30:11 < vorian> @@@tobereplacedbydesktopbase@@@ [11:48] Oo [11:48] vorian: that should actually be fixed [11:48] ah [11:48] i still had it after updating this morning [11:48] there is the patch [11:54] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debdiffs/kdebase-workspace_4.0.98-0ubuntu1_to_ubuntu2.debdiff [11:54] resolving vorian's kdm problem [11:54] ta [11:58] ok [11:59] vorian: Riddell: I started playing with kopete-crypto this morning. I'll try to finish it when I get home tonight. [11:59] mornin' [11:59] Arby: great [12:00] morning nixternal [12:00] apachelogger: Which problem is vorian having with kdm? That it works only once? [12:01] Arby: excellent :) [12:01] vorian: thanks for tidying up my mistakes last night :) [12:01] hehe [12:02] * Arby looks sheepish [12:02] hunger: no, debian patches the theme configuration to be configurable through /etc/defaults/ [12:02] somehow this breaks with rc1 [12:05] alrighty, kpovmodeler is away! [12:05] all we need now is kopete-crypto [12:05] * vorian leaves for work [12:21] http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/todo.html [12:22] Xand3r: what about digikam and mailody? [12:22] apachelogger: mailody is ready [12:23] long time ago [12:23] a already said this [12:23] Xand3r: ScottK doesn't think so [12:23] apachelogger: digikam, you wanted to tell me hw to creat an watch file [12:23] apachelogger: ? [12:25] Xand3r: http://aplg.kollide.net/uscan.html [12:26] apachelogger: ok this with the changelog is a fault, but "-kde4" has to stay, cause its unstabel [12:26] aye [12:26] Xand3r: watch consits basically of 2 lines [12:26] 1. the version [12:26] which is currently [12:26] so every watch file has to include version=3 [12:26] 2. the regexp fro the tarball url [12:27] kk [12:27] i will see [12:27] i am right with my kde4 statment? [12:27] [13:26:13] aye [12:27] [13:26:13] aye [12:27] too much aye [12:27] Good morning [12:28] so for watch, lets say the upstream URL is ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/amarok/1.83/src/amarok-1.83.tar.bz2 [12:28] in regexp that would be ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/amarok/([\d\.]*)/src/amarok-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 [12:28] morning JontheEchidna [12:28] * JontheEchidna just finished reading backlog [12:29] Xand3r: the ([\d\.]*) portion is any amount of digits with dots [12:29] ARgh, more upstream licensing issues :( [12:30] Xand3r: so as in teh example it can be 1.83 or 1.8.8 or 1.8.8.8.8.8.8 [12:30] but not 1.8-alpha1 for example [12:30] the (.*) portion can be anything [12:31] the line gets finished with debian uupdate [12:31] for some reason I really don't know :P [12:31] Xand3r: then you have special features where for example you can query a normal web page for a certain URL [12:31] http://quassel-irc.org/downloads \ [12:31] /system/files/quassel-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 debian uupdate [12:32] first is the web page [12:32] then whitespace, or in this case \ whitespaces in order to linebreak, and after that the regexp URL to find on that web page [12:33] so uscan will download the /downloads page and parse it for the regexp [12:33] <\sh> apachelogger: plans to backport 4.0.89 to hardy? [12:34] Xand3r: best thing is to play a bit with it ... and run it with --debug to get fair amount of information [12:34] \sh: Riddell is on it [12:36] <\sh> cooll...thx riddell :) [12:36] apachelogger: wht is bad with that change log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/27467/ [12:37] Xand3r: you shall drop the ppa portion [12:38] Xand3r: so your entry is the very first one [12:38] apachelogger: but then it is like i am the orignal meintainer [12:38] but i am not [12:38] so i have to refer to the source [12:39] <\sh> apachelogger: btw...when you are on it, please use the latest snapshot of pyqt4 from riverbank, it fixes the missing QFormLayout in pyuic4 [12:39] Xand3r: tell ScottK, not me [12:40] \sh: why is it not fixed in rc1 :P [12:40] <\sh> apachelogger: because I just read it today ,-) [12:41] well well [12:41] they got one release to polish up bindings [12:41] that is gonna be quite some work I guess ;-) [12:42] ScottK: are you there? [12:45] Xand3r: Briefly. [12:46] woo, kdelibs and kdebase are hitting the ppa [12:47] <\sh> apachelogger: it's pyqt4 not pykde4 ;) [12:47] ah [12:47] good point [12:47] ScottK: ok, thx, with mailody, why i have to drop the ppa referenc in the changelog? it were build for the ppa, there i got the source, why i have to remove the reference? [12:48] Xand3r: You can make a comment in Debian copyright if you want to credit someone else for the packaging. [12:48] ScottK: and i cant drop the "-kde4" cause it is unstabel [12:48] Xand3r: PPA isn't part of Ubuntu. [12:48] I don't think we want both KDE3 and KDE4 mailody in Intrepid. [12:48] ScottK: and? i have packeged after wards for ubuntu [12:48] Xand3r: We don't typically put unofficial stuff in debian/changelog. [12:49] The bigger question is the KDE3/4 question and do we want two packages. [12:49] i think Riddell hade told me to do so but i cant remember [12:49] Xand3r: I'd suggest ask Riddell. I'm pretty sure we just want a KDE4 version. [12:50] nope [12:50] only kde4 very it makes sense [12:50] Debian won't want a KDE4 version until after Lenny, so we'd be ahead of them for a while. [12:50] and mailody will most likely not be as usable as the kde3 version for intrepid [12:50] so we are including -kde4 for now [12:50] ah [12:50] Xand3r: Do it as an upgrade to the existing mailody package (with debian/changelog and other packaging from it) [12:50] gotta go [12:50] *shopping* [12:51] \o/ [12:51] * ScottK needs to go for $WORK. [12:51] * ScottK will be away for ~10 hours or so. [12:51] Xand3r: Ask Riddell. [12:53] ScottK: ok, have fun, i will ask Riddell, thx for help [12:53] Riddell: for intrepid mailody kde4 version, have i to create an separate package or its the update of mailody kde3? [12:54] Scared him off. [12:54] ;-) [12:55] See you all later. [12:57] apachelogger: now that libs are in the ppa, is there anything in extragear that needs to be backported like skanlite? [12:59] * Xand3r is eating [13:01] oh right, he went shopping [13:12] rar [13:14] hi, Is there a kubuntu 64 support channel? [13:14] mooperd: #kubuntu [13:15] gnomefreak: doh [13:15] mooperd: im not the one that asked ;) [13:16] gnomefreak: perhaps you can guide me to some good advice about getting dual head working on my ATI card? [13:17] mooperd: nope dual monitors still doesnt make sence to me unless i need it in an office and that still dont really need it [13:17] sense [13:17] #kubuntu or #kde4(i think is kubuntu's kde4 channel but dont remember the name of it [13:17] trust me man, I need it [13:17] they should be ablet o help [13:17] ta [13:18] #kubuntu-kde4 [13:19] debian is adding kde4.1 in lenny :( [13:20] last i heard that was very unstable but still havent played with it [13:20] and they are not adding gnome 2.22 because it is not stable and relies on new things [13:25] umm how unstable is 4.1? (iirc this is not a point release for 4.0) [13:26] gnomefreak: beta2 is very stable for me.. rc1 should be in the repos very soon though [13:27] gribelu: how different is it from 4.0? [13:27] Different [13:27] thats how i spelled it ;) [13:27] I wasn't going at ya for spelling :P [13:27] cant be too diffferent could it? [13:27] JontheEchidna: i know [13:27] oh, lol. [13:28] gnomefreak: much better imho .. more complete and stable [13:28] plasma artwork is nicer [13:28] cool [13:28] Panel configuration is way easier [13:28] 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been :) [13:28] You can grab extra plasma themes from the desktop settings dialog [13:29] comic strip actually loads xkcd [13:29] i havent played with plasma yet maybe i should later [13:29] crap im late [13:29] bbl [13:29] There's a few new plasmoids in the ever-name-changing extra plsmoids module [13:29] Dolphin got tabs [13:29] along with little frames around image previews [13:32] ...among other things === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [13:39] apachelogger: what o have to do? Riddell is gone? === jr_ is now known as Riddell [13:49] hey, how can i run a watch file, only seeing what would hapen, but it change nothing? [13:50] Riddell: emm, could you help me with the mailody name? [13:53] Xand3r: mailody-kde4 ? [13:56] Riddell: ja [14:09] Riddell: the question is, have i to replace the kde3 version or make a mailody-kde4? [14:10] Xand3r: in debian/control for the binary package it should have Conflicts: mailody [14:11] Riddell: so i have to name the kde4 version mailody-kde4 with conflicts to mailody? [14:15] Xand3r: yes [14:16] Riddell: ok, thx === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter [14:26] * jussi01 thinks about reporting a bug... just got to figure out if its really a bug, or my stupidity [14:32] http://rafb.net/p/rtGElb32.html - I'm getting this error with apt, does anyone have an Idea how I can fix it? [14:33] is anyone actively working on filesharing for kubuntu? [14:33] mooperd: uninstall with --force, then --reinstall the package containing that libGL [14:34] hi robinp, nobody is working on it currently, it's something I'd like to do but I don't have the time [14:35] ok, im just playing around at the moment with AFP, I guess at some stage im going to have to have a good look at how it all fits in... [14:35] robinp: what's AFP? [14:35] Riddell: apple file protocol [14:36] sebas, uhm E: Command line option --force is not understood [14:36] hmm, sounds non-standard [14:37] Riddell: its what macs use for filesharing (yes they can do smb as well, but there are things about afp that are better - for example advertising/browsing) [14:37] sebas, with --force-yes I still get the same error [14:41] robinp: seems to be a bit legacy, webdav is the way forward in my opinion [14:43] i try to make a watch file for digicam [14:43] thats the download link [14:43] http://downloads.sourceforge.net/digikam/digikam-0.10.0-beta1.tar.bz2 [14:43] and thats the watchfile line http://downloads.sourceforge.net/digikam/digikam-(.*)\.tar\.bz2 debian uupdate [14:43]