[00:00] <BluesKaj> so you want your mom to run the browsers from linux ?
[00:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[00:00] <Githzerai> ubuntu: You need to reinstall grub, as u switched your partitions ;)
[00:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want to slowly get her out of windows
[00:01] <BluesKaj> Firefox runs in linux , but dunno about safari
[00:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> i know, but i want to be able to run the firefox from windows from here
[00:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> because i have saved sessions on my firefox
[00:02] <BluesKaj> why ? ...I don't get it , sorry
[00:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> and she likes having her addies on a scroll list, she cant be bothered typing them
[00:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have my saved passwords, tabs, websites, on my firefox on linux
[00:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> she's got ehr addresses on the navigation bar on the firefox from windows
[00:03] <ubuntu> this is my -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27365/
[00:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> i was going to tell her to switch to konqueror but i myself cant open my hotmail on konqueror
[00:03] <ubuntu> my menu.lst
[00:03] <ubuntu> is it true?
[00:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> i downloaded epiphany but that doesnt have a bar that saves addresses unless you start typing them
[00:04] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  copy the URLs into a text file , copy them over to linux then copy and paste them individually to the addressbar in Firefox then bookmark the site, when it loads , that'a lla can suggest to you
[00:04] <Githzerai> ubuntu: Reinstall grub ;)
[00:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> how abotu fixing konquror?
[00:04] <ubuntu> how?
[00:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i can open my hotmail messages
[00:04] <Githzerai> ubuntu: Or put disks back as they were.
[00:04] <Githzerai> !grub
[00:05] <Githzerai> ubuntu: first link
[00:05] <BluesKaj> CostaRicanQuaker:  firefox has a linux version ...dunno what you mean
[00:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes but i want to use konqueror too
[00:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i fix it, i cant open hotmail emails in it
[00:05] <BluesKaj> then do the same with konq
[00:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think its common or something
[00:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> but it doesnt open when one clicks on the emails
[00:07] <BluesKaj> sorry dunno about hotmail ...didn't think many linux users bother with it anymore
[00:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> BluesKaj: what do you use?
[00:08] <MrKennie> I thought hotmail worked with firefox?
[00:08] <BluesKaj> kmail, gmail and my ISP provided email pop3 server
[00:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes but not with konqueror
[00:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> kmail?
[00:08] <MrKennie> I don't use it but I seem to recall it works
[00:08] <MrKennie> probably not much you can do about that I'm afraid
[00:08] <MrKennie> complain to msn
[00:09] <BluesKaj> yes , it's included in the kontact app in the kmenu/internet
[00:10] <sebastian_> how do i install kmail?
[00:10] <sebastian_> od i have to be on kde?
[00:10] <sebastian_> or can i get it from gnome?
[00:10] <MrKennie> kubuntu should have it already
[00:10] <sebastian_> can i also check it from a windows computer? like an internet cafe?
[00:11] <MrKennie> check what?
[00:11] <sebastian_> my email
[00:11] <MrKennie> oh
[00:11] <MrKennie> kmail is an email client like outlook
[00:11] <MrKennie> outlook express even
[00:12] <MrKennie> gmail is google mail which you can use with a regular email client
[00:12] <sebastian_> i know ive got a gmail account
[00:12] <MrKennie> or you can use any decent browser
[00:12] <compilerwriter> kmail can be backended into kontact and then you will have something more like outlook.
[00:12] <sebastian_> hmm, can i install my gmail on kmail?
[00:12] <sebastian_> as in.....can i open my gmail from kmail?
[00:13] <Dragnslcr> Yes, GMail support POP/IMAP clients
[00:13] <MrKennie> sebastian_: sure, nto sure if it's changed lately but you will not to enable pop access in your gmail account
[00:13] <sebastian_> pop=?
[00:13] <MrKennie> protocol that msot email clients support, you will see it in your gmail preferences
[00:14] <sebastian_> what is its use?
[00:14] <sebastian_> i mean, do i use it generally? i have gmail already but uisually i open from the browser
[00:14] <MrKennie> yea, you can do that but you can also use an email program tosend and receive mail using your gmail account
[00:14] <sebastian_> can i download kazekahase from the terminal by typing sudo aptitude install kazekahase?
[00:15] <MrKennie> not sure what that is, sorry
[00:16] <sebastian_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase
[00:17] <BluesKaj> sebastian_:  you can configure your gmail to forward emails to another email account if you wish, look in the options page on gmail
[00:17] <sebastian_> i know that
[00:17] <MrKennie> sebastian_: looks like that program is available
[00:18] <sebastian_> i do that for my hotmail, i get them forwarded to the hotmail account
[00:18] <sebastian_> MrKennie: is there a way to check if a prog is available from the terminal without getting it
[00:18] <MrKennie> try apt-cache search <thing>
[00:18] <Dragnslcr> !info kazekahase
[00:18] <sebastian_> but what would i miss out if i install gmail on kmail? that pop thing
[00:18] <MrKennie> eg. apt-cache search kazekahase
[00:18] <BluesKaj> you can get gmail forwarded to yahoo, hotmail, your ISP provided email or whatever
[00:19] <brahman> #kubuntu-es
[00:19] <MrKennie> $ apt-cache search kazehakase
[00:19] <MrKennie> kazehakase - gecko based web browser using GTK
[00:20] <sebastian_> i got nothing MrKennie
[00:20] <Dragnslcr> Helps if I copy/paste the correct spelling
[00:20] <Dragnslcr> !info Kazehakase
[00:20] <sebastian_> great
[00:22] <MrKennie> :)
[00:22] <sebastian_> MrKennie: E: Couldn't find package kazekahase
[00:22] <sebastian_> sebastian@sebastian:~$
[00:22] <sebastian_> what do i do now
[00:22] <MrKennie>  kazehakase
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> You have to spell it correctly
[00:23] <sebastian_> has anyone actually tried it?
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> You should probably use Adept. It can filter on partial names
[00:23] <sebastian_> or is icecat better?
[00:23] <MrKennie> not I
[00:23] <sebastian_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat
[00:23] <MrKennie> sebastian_: best thing is to try them yourself
[00:24] <MrKennie> different tastes etc.
[00:24] <sebastian_> !icecat
[00:24] <MrKennie> sebastian_: nothing stopping you from removing anything you don't like.
[00:24] <sebastian_> how do i look for this on the repositories
[00:24] <sebastian_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat
[00:25] <MrKennie> may not be there
[00:25] <sebastian_> what do i do then?
[00:25] <MrKennie> if you open adept package manager it will search as you type
[00:26] <sebastian_> wasnt it synaptic?
[00:26] <MrKennie> depends
[00:26] <MrKennie> adept is default in kubuntu, synpatic is default in ubuntu
[00:27] <MrKennie> even still you can install either if you wish
[00:27] <Githzerai> !info icecat
[00:27] <sebastian_> what does that mean?
[00:27] <MrKennie> what?
[00:27] <sebastian_> how do i know which release i'm on?
[00:29] <Githzerai> sebastian_: lsb_release -a
[00:30] <sebastian_> No LSB modules are available.
[00:30] <sebastian_> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[00:30] <sebastian_> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.1
[00:30] <sebastian_> Release:        8.04
[00:30] <sebastian_> Codename:       hardy
[00:30] <sebastian_> hmmm wait...that makes no sense
[00:30] <sebastian_> how do i check what kernel i'm on?
[00:30] <sebastian_> the version of the kernel
[00:30] <MrKennie> try not to paste in here
[00:30] <sebastian_> oh yeah i forgot pastebin
[00:30] <MrKennie> uname -a
[00:30] <sebastian_> Linux sebastian 2.6.15-52-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jun 9 17:24:46 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linu
[00:30] <sebastian_> this doesnt make much sense does it
[00:31] <MrKennie> upgraded lately?
[00:31] <sebastian_> yeah
[00:31] <sebastian_> but i cant boot from the 8.04 kernel
[00:31] <sebastian_> it gives me some busy box ash error
[00:31] <sebastian_> so i boot up from the old kernel
[00:32] <sebastian_> so, can i get gnu icecat on hardy?
[00:32] <MrKennie> you know which version it was?
[00:32] <sebastian_> dapper i think
[00:32] <MrKennie> I mean the hardy kernel
[00:33] <sebastian_> nope, but its newer a one
[00:33] <MrKennie> you can probably get icecat installed but you may need to compile yourself. Check the website for info.
[00:33] <MrKennie> icecat website that is
[00:34] <sebastian_> compile myself?
[00:35] <iCEifer> hello, how can I change the size of the icons/text in KDE 4? everything is so massive on the taskbar/system tray
[00:36] <sebastian_> MrKennie: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ what do i do?
[00:36] <Githzerai> iCEifer: Resize panel. Btw #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[00:37] <iCEifer> Githzerai, right click and choose resize?
[00:37] <Githzerai> iCEifer: Panel settings
[00:38] <iCEifer> Githzerai, is that under system settings?
[00:39] <Githzerai> iCEifer: Panel, right click, panell settings....
[00:40] <iCEifer> Githzerai, thanx, much better :)
[00:40] <Githzerai> iCEifer: np ;)
[00:57] <Agent_bob> anyone familear with xargs ?
[00:57] <Agent_bob> how to terminate with \n ?
[01:01] <sebastian_> !es
[01:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> to get rid of konqueror its sudo aptitude remove konqueror-brwoser ?
[01:28] <TrinJ> Anybody there who can help a newbie with getting OpenGL with a Nvidia 7300GT
[01:28] <TrinJ> ?
[01:30] <hoti> hi
[01:31] <hoti> what is this software ?
[01:31] <Pici> hoti: Kubuntu?
[01:31] <Pici> !kubuntu
[01:41] <Githzerai> TrinJ: sudo jockey-kde
[01:47] <XJman> Does Kubuntu work well as a media server? I'm not familiar with setting one up, but I have TB's of movies and music I wan't to have accessable from multiple computers.
[01:52] <Githzerai> XJman: Well most of servers today use some sort of BSD or GNU/Linux, so I think that answers your question. As for Kubuntu in particular, for presonal use no beter or worse than any other distro....
[01:52] <Githzerai> XJman: Speaking of media server that is....
[01:54] <XJman> Githzerai: Thanks
[01:54] <Jucato> Kubuntu forms the base of LinuxMCE
[01:54] <Jucato> http://www.linuxmce.org/
[02:00] <TrinJ> Dithzerai: what does that do
[02:01] <richard> ah y a juanma por la ayuda con el firefox
[02:01] <TrinJ> Githzerai: sorry about that.  " What does jockey do?
[02:02] <Githzerai> TrinJ: Installs and enables restricted drivers, such as nvidia in kubuntu
[02:04] <TrinJ> Githzerai: will try that now, there's info on it that is info jockey no info comes up and I don't know how to gwt into man pages yet.
[02:05] <Githzerai> !info jockey-kde | TrinJ
[02:07] <TrinJ> Githzerai: it says: -su: jockey-kde: command not found
[02:08] <Githzerai> TrinJ: You are using Kubuntu ? ;) sudo jockey-kde must work...
[02:14] <amelie> hi
[02:14] <amelie> i everyone
[02:15] <amelie> hi everyone, i need help
[02:15] <Githzerai> amelie: hi
[02:15] <amelie> can anyone tell me how do i play dvd movies on kubuntu or dreamlinux?
[02:16] <amelie> i tried with all player available, gxine, mplayer, and always give me errors. I tried download libdvdcss2 and coulnd't install it
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> !dvd
[02:18] <amelie> i tried sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh  the response was "command not found"
[02:18] <amelie> any other suggestions?
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I haven't tried it myself
[02:20] <Githzerai> amelie: Try using tip from above. medibuntu repo does improve media abilities of kubuntu. never had any problem with dvd playback ;)
[02:21] <amelie> !medibuntu
[02:21] <amelie> i don't know how to get it
[02:24] <Githzerai> amelie: See http://www.medibuntu.org It is easier than u think. if any problems please feel free to ask for further advice. ;)
[02:31] <kkathman> anyone remember that "bubble" game in kde??  I thought bubble was in the name in fact?
[02:32] <Githzerai> kkathman: what bubble game ?
[02:32] <kkathman> Githzerai:  I forget - thats what Im trying to find out - you would aim a certain color bubble at another and try to clear the board
[02:32] <jeisma> can anyone help me with my kdm theme manager?
[02:33] <jeisma> whenever i install a new theme, it doesn't show up unless i check a preference that says show old theme
[02:33] <Githzerai> kkathman: same-game
[02:33] <jeisma> and it won't let me use any themes i download from kde-look.org
[02:33] <kkathman> I remember now - frozen bubble
[02:34] <Githzerai> kkathman: Hm, that is not a KDE game :)
[02:34] <Dr_willis_> kfrozenbubble :P
[02:34] <kkathman> Githzerai:  really?? I thought it was
[02:34] <kkathman> it was fun though
[02:35] <Githzerai> kkathman: Well it was kind of missleading clue ;) Good game though
[02:36] <kkathman> sorry Githzerai I guess I just remember playing it in kubuntu
[02:37] <Githzerai> kkathman: Will u ever learn when I'm joking and when not ? :) ;)
[02:41] <kkathman> Githzerai:  I guess not hehe :)
[02:50] <TrinJ> Hi can somebody please help: I have downloaded Nvidia drivers, on may to installing OpenGL and the Beryl or Looking Glass.  How do I innstall it, lpease gelp!sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-171.06.01-pkg1.run
[02:51] <TrinJ> does not do it or I am doing it in the wrong place I don't know.
[02:57] <jeisma> when i configure my kdm files, i get this message at the end:
[02:57] <jeisma> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:58] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[02:58] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey.. can anyone read me?
[02:58] <jeisma> im trying to configure and install kdm theme manager
[02:58] <spiel_mit_feuer> ive been trying to find a large linux chatroom online.. and previously all i had was the yahoo room
[02:58] <maduser> first find the paths it is lookig for
[02:58] <maduser> find the paths that kdm is looking for
[02:59] <spiel_mit_feuer> so.. if anyone can confirm they can read me.. that would be great
[02:59] <maduser> spiel_mit_feuer: I don't see you
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> spiel_mit_feuer,  :)
[03:00] <Dr_willis_> Tyechnically this is a large Kubuntu chatroom. :) theres also ##linux, and #ubuntu
[03:01] <spiel_mit_feuer> ok...
[03:01] <spiel_mit_feuer> so.. i installed linux a few days ago.. working great
[03:01] <maduser> which one?
[03:01] <spiel_mit_feuer> well.. ive used linux before, i was just never able to break myself away from windows.. but i think this time i have
[03:01] <Dr_willis_> theres also Kubuntu specific rooms in other languages. if english is not your first language.
[03:01] <blauzahl> there's even #kde-chat :D  <---advertising
[03:01] <spiel_mit_feuer> im using ubuntu i installed a base command line system of, then installed kde-core so i can fine tune the system by only installing the apps i use
[03:02] <maduser> oh
[03:02] <spiel_mit_feuer> its all working great so far.. im enjoying KDE, got some programs that seem to work fine
[03:02] <spiel_mit_feuer> audacious makes a perfect replacement to the winamp i was so used to
[03:03] <Walzmyn> Is there a place where I can see the schedual for packages going into the repos?
[03:03] <cagc> !!!
[03:04] <spiel_mit_feuer> at this point.. my missing windows is growing lesser and lesser each day.. and i only have a couple slight problems with linux im sure i can fix in time
[03:04] <cEr0> ¿hay alguién que hable español?
[03:05] <maduser> cEr0: si poco
[03:05] <cEr0> ohh
[03:05] <spiel_mit_feuer> biggest problem is my audio.. it works, fully installed.. problem is i cannot adjust the output volume since im using the spdif format for my surround sound.. what i need to do, is somehow emulate an analog 5.1 output with a master volume i can then route to the spdif output giving me volume control
[03:05] <spiel_mit_feuer> i believe i need to configure an alsa plugin known as softvol if i can figure out how to set that up correctly
[03:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> so does anyone know of any larger irc chat clients i could go to?
[03:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried linux first when slackware 9.0 was current
[03:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> and i have to say.. linux has certainly come a very long way since then
[03:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> the new kernal, upgraded desktops, more software, its as easy as windows now
[03:10] <BluesKaj> spiel_mit_feuer: larger irc chat clients ?
[03:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> chat rooms i meant
[03:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> theres a ton of people logged in, but i dont see many talking?
[03:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> heh.. im making my own theme :-D cant do that with windows
[03:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> well.. not as cool anyway
[03:11] <Pici> spiel_mit_feuer: #kubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu
[03:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, some ppl just auto-join but seldom participate ...dunno why
[03:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> im not sure where to go.. technically im using ubuntu.. which i installed to the command line only to install kde
[03:12] <compilerwriter> Spiel do you really like to play with fire?
[03:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> heh.. sometimes
[03:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> anyone ever see the "gentoo ice" skin for xmms that used to come with gentoo installations?
[03:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> it was a very beautiful xmms skin.. and i was thinking of using some pieces of that to create an entire KDE desktop theme around
[03:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> im finding pidgin (gaim) has come a long way too.. theres only one feature gaim needs to make it absolutely perfect for me.. tabbed accounts
[03:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> if a different account could be placed in individual tabs within the main list.. that would be great
[03:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> i have to say though.. the #1 thing about linux i like different about windows, able to install /home on another partition
[03:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> if i change distros, i dont lose my important stuff or configurations :D
[03:16] <Pici> spiel_mit_feuer: This channel is really just for support issues, if you want to chat you'd probably be more interested in #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> i do have 2 support issues
[03:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> its with my audio
[03:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> the audio works, but due to an inherant problem with the spdif format, i cannot change the volume, so the volume is always maximum
[03:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> i can turn it down via my surround sound receiver, but next song, its back to max volume
[03:17] <compilerwriter> That could be bloody annoying
[03:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> oh it is
[03:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> its never the major issues that turn someone away from something, its the annoying ones
[03:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think i found a solution of how to fix this.. via an alsa plugin script thing, but im not sure how to set it up to work how i need it to
[03:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> somehow its possible to emulate an analog 5.1 signal with master volume control and then route it through my spdif output
[03:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> theres a plugin called softvol i was looking into, and it seems to be what i need, i just cant set it up right
[03:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> so if anyone knows how to set up a softvol plugin script for alsa, let me know
[03:21] <BluesKaj> spiel_mit_feuer:  I use the spdif out to my receiver as well, but i haven't encountered any intermittent volume increases. i have my alsamixer ctrls set to 71% max.
[03:21] <spiel_mit_feuer> do your alsamixer controls actually control the volume?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> yes
[03:22] <spiel_mit_feuer> even with windows XP this was an issue, so its not linux
[03:22] <BluesKaj> sounds like your souncard has a prob then
[03:23] <spiel_mit_feuer> well.. this is a laptop, so im sure it doesnt come with all the features of a higher end third party audio controller
[03:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> if i set audacious to take over volume controls it works fine.. so what i need is like a master software volume control that can replace kmix
[03:25] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: set the master channel to pcm or similar in kmix?
[03:25] <flaccid> right click kmix and select master channel
[03:26] <spiel_mit_feuer> ive already tried it.. kmix will only allow me to adjust hardware volume
[03:26] <flaccid> and that is not adequate?
[03:27] <spiel_mit_feuer> flaccid, it doesnt change the volume at all though
[03:27] <flaccid> thats weird
[03:27] <spiel_mit_feuer> not master, not pcm, not digital, nothing.. since spdif doesnt have a volume control while im running through the surround sound i cannot adjust the volume
[03:28] <spiel_mit_feuer> so i was wondering how to set up sort of a software master volume control with my spdif via softvol
[03:28] <flaccid> that is probably how its meant to be as its digital line level out
[03:28] <flaccid> still, if you have digital/spdif fader in kmix/alsamixer then it should control it
[03:29] <spiel_mit_feuer> its not a linux issue.. since it didnt work in windows either
[03:29] <spiel_mit_feuer> not XP that is
[03:29] <spiel_mit_feuer> in vista.. vista had a sound mixer that adjusted software volume which worked fine
[03:29] <flaccid> ok then BluesKaj is probably right on the money
[03:30] <flaccid> still there is quite a lot on google about spidf volume and alsa etc.
[03:30] <spiel_mit_feuer> nothing ive found was useful though
[03:30] <calcmandan> Running Kubuntu 8.04.1 fully updated.  Have been running Star Trek Armada II via Wine 1.0 the last month or so.  No issues outside of the game's memory leaks.  Well, a day has passed since I've been getting an error msg stating i"m out of memory, to increase swap file size.  I don't know where this came from.  I have over 1.5gb of ram available and 5gb of swap.  Is there a setting that's affecting this?
[03:30] <spiel_mit_feuer> the closest thing ive found is the softvol plugin for alsa but i dont know how to configure it properly
[03:31] <flaccid> calcmandan: maybe try #wine and google
[03:32] <calcmandan> flaccid: i've tried #winehq.
[03:32] <BluesKaj> spiel_mit_feuer: maybe there's an optional volume ctrl setting , like there used to be on old tape decks etc , fixed volume setting  or dynamic on your soundcard software
[03:32] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: this may help http://www.terdmonk.com/Using+ALSA's+softvol+plugin+and+max_dB and there is lots more on google about this stuff
[03:33] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[03:34] <_2> who is on right now ?
[03:34] <maduser> nobody
[03:34] <_2> maduser that's bad.
[03:35] <maduser> course
[03:35] <spiel_mit_feuer> ive seen many scripts like those.. but none ive been able to get working propery for my situation
[03:35] <_2> i need a command that will work like "read" the bash builtin    anyone know of anything like that ?
[03:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[03:36] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think that script you sent might help
[03:37] <flaccid> _2: um, read ?
[03:37] <spiel_mit_feuer> this pulseaudio is a software layer between the hardware and the apps
[03:38] <_2> flaccid yeah i need a read alternative
[03:39] <flaccid> _2: fair enough. ##bash might be a better place for help
[03:39] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: yeah pulsaudio is a sound server and might be a good option for you
[03:39] <_2> flaccid unix shells don't allow -t and -n options on their "read" builtin.  so i'm looking for an alternative.
[03:39] <flaccid> !pulseaudio | spiel_mit_feuer
[03:39] <_2> flaccid and they get in a huff if you ask for non-bash help in there.
[03:40] <_2> besides i already did ask in there.
[03:41] <flaccid> this isn't really a scripting channel, maybe goto a channel with the same name as the shell you want it for
[03:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> so would that help me ubottu?
[03:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[03:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> wel i installed pulseaudio
[03:41] <flaccid> ubottu is just a bot
[03:41] <_2> flaccid heh care to join me in #dash  :)
[03:42] <flaccid> _2: eek nah im a c, tsch or bash guy
[03:42] <_2> -:- [Users(#dash:2)]
[03:42] <_2> [ _2        ] [@ChanServ  ]
[03:42] <_2> :)
[03:43] <hfbljeksf> Can you guys help me?, i have no upload speed?
[03:44] <flaccid> hfbljeksf: do you have any idea why? maybe its a problem with your network/connection
[03:44] <_2> band-narrowness ?
[03:44] <hfbljeksf> flaccid, if i go into windows i have one....
[03:44] <hfbljeksf> i am on speedtest.net btw
[03:45] <flaccid> well if you can connect to the internet, browse www and use irc, you have an upload speed..
[03:48] <_2> speedtest.net  hehheh
[03:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm.. wel i have 2 default sound systems on my computer.. analog, for 2 speaker, and digital.. it seems like its trying to use analog, how should i set it to use the digita?
[03:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> digital
[03:50] <jon_> will loading a kernel from system update affect your system if youve already got one?
[03:50] <_2> jon_ ?
[03:50] <_2> if youve already got one?  <<<  explain ?
[03:51] <_2> but short answer is,  yes.
[03:51] <Nihilam> Had a quick question - At some point during my upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04, my console (not Konsole, the non-gui version) began to display all the ncurses-based program's colors far dimmer than they should be. Under Konsole, they're fine. I'm sure I'm missing something, but I can't figure out what.
[03:51] <abgeanpr> hi
[03:52] <abgeanpr> had a quick question for you guys
[03:52] <abgeanpr> wanted to check as to how you can get KDE4 package going on kubuntu 8.X
[03:52] <abgeanpr> ??
[03:52] <abgeanpr> 'cause all sites point to srcs to be compile
[03:52] <spiel_mit_feuer> better yet
[03:53] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i find out the name linux recognizes my audio card?
[03:53] <_2> Nihilam ummm reinstall console-data & console-tools maybe
[03:53] <abgeanpr> and that requires bunch of depend'cs
[03:53] <flaccid> !enter | abgeanpr
[03:53] <abgeanpr> ???
[03:53] <Nihilam> spiel: lspci?
[03:53] <flaccid> !kde4 | abgeanpr
[03:53] <_2> spiel_mit_feuer cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:54] <jon_> _2: my wireless card stopped working the day after i installed a bunch of updates from system update
[03:54] <flaccid> jon_: driver for the wireless may of been kernel dependent, but it could be a few things
[03:54] <jon_> _2 they had a kernel and some header files, which i didnt need so i didnt see why they suggested i install it, but i didnt think it would matter
[03:54] <_2> jon_ did you have to compie a driver for your card ?   if so you'll have to rebuild it
[03:55] <jon_> _2 do i need to worry about doing away with extra kernels?
[03:55] <flaccid> yeah re-install/compile of driver might do the trick. you can also select the old kernel from grub and boot with that to see if it is the problem
[03:56] <_2> jon_ worry ?  no.     but it's a relatively good idea to keep an old (known to work well) kernel around,
[03:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> hey
[03:56] <abgeanpr> but 8.0.41 says the it has kernel 3.0
[03:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i change my keyboard layout to spanish?
[03:56] <abgeanpr> so any ideas?
[03:56] <spiel_mit_feuer> so.. whats listed when i type aplay -l isnt the name?
[03:56] <jon_> how can i tell what all kernels i have and get rid of any extras?
[03:56] <flaccid> abgeanpr: i dont understand what you are saying
[03:57] <jon_> because i think i may have 2 of the same one
[03:57] <abgeanpr> primarily i have kubuntu 8.0.4.x running ; so does it mean it is 4.x KDE ?
[03:57] <_2> jon_ ls /lib/modules
[03:57] <_2> jon_ dpkg -l | grep 'ii linux'
[03:58] <_2> sorry two spaces.
[03:58] <_2> jon_ dpkg -l | grep 'ii  linux'
[03:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: how do i change the keyboard layout on kde?
[03:58] <jon_> _2 is 4 too many?
[03:58] <abgeanpr> thanks jon_ in advance
[03:58] <abgeanpr> but I am not sure how to get KDE 4 installed
[03:59] <EnMasse187> hey
[03:59] <_2> jon_ that's entirely your decision.  i presently have 3 installed on this box
[03:59] <EnMasse187> abgeanpr
[03:59] <jon_> _2 thanks for your help
[03:59] <EnMasse187> listen to nike
[03:59] <EnMasse187> JUST DO IT :)
[04:00] <abgeanpr> well the first question would be Ubuntu 8.04.1 is listed in /etc/issue
[04:00] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: besides keyboard & mouse in system settings, i have no idea
[04:00] <abgeanpr> but how to look at KDE 4 as a confirmation ?
[04:00] <rodolinux> can anyone tell me what is the command to open an installation .tar.gz
[04:00] <abgeanpr> tar -xvzf
[04:00] <flaccid> abgeanpr: read what ubottu showed you which is this: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.5.php
[04:00] <abgeanpr> should do it
[04:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: i am there but i dont see the layout option
[04:01] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: neither do i
[04:01] <Nihilam> So, does anyone know what might cause a discrepancy between the colors Konsole shows and those the console displays? The color thing affects everything from nethack to my own projects, to the man pages.
[04:01] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: google and #kde
[04:01] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: i think its in regional and accessibility
[04:02] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i restart the sound?
[04:02] <flaccid> sorry Regional & Language > Keyboard Layout CostaRicanQuaker
[04:02] <spiel_mit_feuer> its etc/init.d something
[04:02] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: maybe sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> ñ¿!
[04:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: thank you
[04:03] <spiel_mit_feuer> maybe
[04:03] <flaccid> np
[04:03] <spiel_mit_feuer> ill try that
[04:03] <spiel_mit_feuer> yes.. that worked flaccid
[04:04] <_2> also useful  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2807b74a
[04:05] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: what worked sorry?
[04:06] <spiel_mit_feuer> aah
[04:06] <spiel_mit_feuer> the alsa-utils restart
[04:06] <flaccid> ok
[04:06] <spiel_mit_feuer> but.. still no luck with the volume control
[04:06] <flaccid> try pulseaudio
[04:07] <spiel_mit_feuer> i did
[04:07] <spiel_mit_feuer> i should be able to get something to work in the .asoundrc plugin script
[04:07] <flaccid> well you should be able to do it with pulseaudio, but i've never used it so i would'nt have a clue
[04:07] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats hw 0,0?
[04:07] <flaccid> thats the hardware location on the card for the channels
[04:08] <_2> not to be confused with 0x00
[04:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> aaah
[04:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> this is really annoying
[04:16] <pulaski> hello, has anyone tried the new application in Hardy called "Prism for Google Talk"
[04:17] <tsunami> como es para pasarse al canal español
[04:17] <flaccid> !es | tsunami
[04:21] <mm_202> Hey guys, Ive had this problem on multiple computers & laptops, the multimedia volume keys dont control the proper sound channel.  Where can I change that?
[04:22] <flaccid> mm_202: im not sure if it will affect, but maybe right click kmix and select master channel
[04:23] <mm_202> Hi flaccid, Ive tried that, it only affects the KMix application.
[04:23] <flaccid> mm_202: do you know which app is controlling the multimedia keys function?
[04:23] <mm_202> nfi
[04:24] <mm_202> I should of googled around first, but I figured that this was a very common problem (since Ive had it on 4 different computers / laptops, etc).
[04:26] <spiel_mit_feuer> well i figured out the device i want to use is called hw 0,1 i think
[04:27]  * _2 wonders why a laptop is not a computer...
[04:28] <mm_202> _2: I made the distinction to show that its not only some specific PCI / on-board USB audio-device having the problem.
[04:28] <_2> spiel_mit_feuer man asoundconf    might help you.
[04:31] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[04:31] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think im having issues because my devices are listed as root?
[04:33] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i change the file permissions for my audio devices?
[04:34] <dr_Willis> Normally a user is a member of specific groups that allows them to use specific devices.
[04:34] <dr_Willis> what device are you refering to specifically?
[04:34] <spiel_mit_feuer> my audio deviced
[04:34] <spiel_mit_feuer> hw:0,1
[04:35] <Nihilam> Is there a kubuntu console-specific channel?
[04:35] <dr_Willis> what /dev/XXXXX item?
[04:36] <dr_Willis> kubuntu console specific - would be a bit missnomer. the 'console' and 'command  line' should be identical in ubuntu/kubuntu, and very similer to most other disrtos.
[04:38] <flaccid> its probably the audio group you need to be a member of
[04:38] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i change that?
[04:39] <dr_Willis> audio:x:29:pulse,willis
[04:40] <flaccid> change what?
[04:40] <dr_Willis> is what my /etc/group shows for my user.
[04:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> become member of the audio group
[04:41] <shosho> shosho
[04:41] <dr_Willis> check your /etc/group file to see if your user is a member or audio first.. it may not be the issue
[04:42] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: check which groups you are in quickly with the groups command. and then kuser is probably the easiest way to add yourself to the group if not already
[04:42] <shosho> hesham
[04:42] <spiel_mit_feuer> what would it be called in /etc/group
[04:42] <dr_Willis> audio:x:29:pulse,willis
[04:42] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: or User Management in system settings
[04:43] <dr_Willis> the groupname is 'audio'
[04:43] <flaccid> best to not edit /etc/passwd and /etc/group manually...
[04:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> there is no group name audio
[04:44] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: how did you conclude that? which ubuntu version is this?
[04:44] <spiel_mit_feuer> 8.04
[04:44] <spiel_mit_feuer> i typed nano /etc/group
[04:44] <spiel_mit_feuer> no audio group
[04:44] <_2> user{add,del}  group{add,del}
[04:44] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: paste output of groups command from konsole of desired user please
[04:45] <Nihilam> Willis: Which barely answers my question. I've great interest in the proper naming of things, but at the moment I'd like to know if you (or anyone) knows of a, preferably linux derived, console-specific channel.
[04:45] <dr_Willis> Theres the #bash channel Nihilam  that proberly is the closest you will fine.
[04:45] <dr_Willis> !channels
[04:45] <flaccid> Nihilam: i don't know of anything console/terminal specific, but there is shell channels like ##bash
[04:46] <Nihilam> Ok, thank you. And again for that link.
[04:46] <spiel_mit_feuer> which command would that be flaccid?
[04:46] <_2> Nihilam ##bash #dash and the generic ##linux
[04:47] <flaccid> spiel_mit_feuer: groups
[04:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> aah.. here it does say audio
[04:48] <flaccid> yes the default user is in a variety of groups including this one
[04:49] <flaccid> i don't see why you would need to change perms on anything for audio
[04:50] <spiel_mit_feuer> i don
[04:50] <spiel_mit_feuer> dont
[04:50] <spiel_mit_feuer> its not the problem
[04:58] <_2> i just noticed that if you ssh someone@someip su - someone    you don't get the normal output.   what's up with su ?
[04:59] <_2> stdin: is not a tty
[04:59] <_2> stdin: is not a tty
[05:03] <spiel_mit_feuer> im back
[05:06] <aidan_> wtf is this
[05:06] <flaccid> aidan_: Kubuntu Support chat channel
[05:06] <aidan_> oh
[05:06] <aidan_> nvm
[05:06] <purpleposeidon> Argh, how to fix?  PING 127.0.0.1 ..... 100% packet loss
[05:06] <aidan_> im new
[05:07] <puskom> jklnl n
[05:07] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: do you get the same thing with ping localhost ?
[05:07] <purpleposeidon> yes
[05:08] <flaccid> did you do something, because that is a little strange
[05:08] <purpleposeidon> flaccid: Does it start with 'sudo dhclient'?
[05:08] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: huh?
[05:08] <purpleposeidon> possibly. This is a fairly fsckd, ah, system.
[05:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> im getting close to fixing this i think
[05:09] <purpleposeidon> I have 196 packages that I need to update. :P
[05:09] <purpleposeidon> But it was working at one point.
[05:09] <purpleposeidon> And I do remember localhost being broken, and I fixed it somehow.
[05:09] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: pastebin cat /etc/network/interfaces; ifconfig; cat /etc/hosts; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[05:10] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: well we don't know what you have done and sounds like you are in middle of update/upgrade or something as well
[05:10] <purpleposeidon> oh, well look at that, "iface nonet loopback" is commented out
[05:10] <flaccid> that is likely the problem
[05:10] <purpleposeidon> you still want those other files?
[05:11] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: not yet. this is all you need in that file: http://pastebin.com/f6b041c7a
[05:13] <purpleposeidon> Right, if I disapear suddenly and don't come back it's probably your fault.
[05:13] <purpleposeidon> hmm, but what command do I run
[05:14]  * purpleposeidon goes for init.d/networking
[05:14] <purpleposeidon> nope
[05:14]  * flaccid yawns
[05:14] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:14] <purpleposeidon> yep.
[05:15] <flaccid> cool
[05:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[05:15] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think i might not have the softvol plugin installed
[05:15] <purpleposeidon> localhost/127.0.0.1 both fail
[05:16] <purpleposeidon> sudo dhclient lo
[05:16] <purpleposeidon> works
[05:17] <_2> i think i'm ready to learn how to setup "dhcp".   anyone want to instruct ?
[05:19] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: this has nothing to do with dhclient. pastebin the stuff i mentioned before
[05:20] <purpleposeidon> errr 'kay
[05:20] <_2> guess not...  ;/
[05:23] <flaccid> _2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dhcp&titlesearch=Titles
[05:23] <flaccid> 1st result is all you need most likely
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27407/
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> doh
[05:24] <purpleposeidon> well, maybe not, /me reads
[05:25] <purpleposeidon> oh, that was for _2. :]
[05:25] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: i don't know what you have done. only other thing i can think of is firewall filtering but i doubt you have set one up..
[05:25] <purpleposeidon> well, it works right now
[05:26] <flaccid> purpleposeidon: ok well its fixed then. you can also reload loopback with sudo /etc/init.d/loopback restart (fyi)
[05:26] <purpleposeidon> hmm
[05:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> Riddell: you up?
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> im back
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> guess what?
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> flaccid?
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> i got it working
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> :-D
[05:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> i now have.... volume control
[05:43] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker how went the upgrade ?
[05:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> which upgrade?
[05:43] <_2> oh.  that bad ?
[05:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> DistroJockey?
[05:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> well, here's the deal, when i look up on...let me show you
[05:44] <_2> the dapper to hardy upgrade you tried the other day
[05:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> how did oyu check which release you were on
[05:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> on the terminal
[05:45] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker lsb_release -a
[05:45] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker can compare the kernel version too   uname -a
[05:45] <spiel_mit_feuer> itll take me a couple days to sort through me entire list of music to come up with a good playlist... but its good for now.. yay
[05:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> -2: Release:        8.04
[05:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> Codename:       hardy
[05:46] <_2> kool
[05:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> however: Linux sebastian 2.6.15-52-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jun 9 17:24:46 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> ^this is not good
[05:47] <_2> hmmm running an older kernel.  i see
[05:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> when i boot up i have to boot up from the old kernel because the new one will give me some error that says busybox, ash something
[05:48] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker ah the initramfs.img not able to mount the root fs     probably because they change to using scsi emulation by default
[05:48] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker what does   cat /proc/cmdline   tell us ?
[05:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i check how much space is used on a partition?
[05:49]  * CostaRicanQuaker loves _2
[05:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> _2: root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[05:50] <_2> ummm hmmm and the newer setup is trying to mount /dev/hda2   but using scsi emulation the device changed to /dev/sda2   ...  not sure what is the easiest way to fix that....
[05:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> i also had to remount the partition
[05:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> the um...thing, you know...yeah, that, had to be remounted
[05:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> ntsf
[05:51] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker you could edit the cmdline in grub at boot time and test just changing hda to sda   and see if it boots that way.
[05:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> _2: what if it doesnt?
[05:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> can i do it from the shell?
[05:53] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker if you want to experiment with that.   the  [esc] key will let you select the newer kernel and hit [e] to edit it.  then select the kernel line and hit [e] to edit the line   change the h to an s and hit [enter] then hit [b]    note. that's a one time edit.  it's not sticky  if it works you'll have to edit the menu.lst to have it permanant
[05:53] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker that's all at the grub menu prompt  ^
[05:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> hmmm
[05:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> further explain please i know esc gets me to the choose which operative system you want to pick, first is the new kernel
[05:56] <_2> it is also possable (we hope this is not the case) that your initramfs.img for the new kernel will have to be rebuilt.    depending on whether or not that ^ test works out or not.       also if it spits you out in that busybox shell again do this   ls /dev   and take note of what is in there.  specificly   sd things.
[05:57] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker yes.  [esc]  then the [e] key lets you make temperory changes to the selection.
[05:57] <_2> the [b] key boots it.
[05:58] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker the directional keys will allow you to possition the cursor where you want it and the del and backspace whould both work also.
[05:59] <_2> whould <<  heh  that's a hybird could/should/would word
[05:59]  * CostaRicanQuaker is scared shiftless of smucking up everyhing
[06:00] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker nothing you do in that grub prompt is permanant.
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...let me just read this a couple more times
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> and dont go
[06:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> i might even write this down
[06:01] <_2> copy / paste > textfile...
[06:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> no printer,
[06:01] <_2> make exact copy.   then you can hold _2 accountable if you break something....
[06:02] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> aha!
[06:02]  * CostaRicanQuaker sends himself email with everything
[06:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: ok i am going to do that
[06:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i just type e and that lets me edit it?
[06:04] <Agent_bob> yep
[06:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[06:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: DO NOT LEAVE PLEASE
[06:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob:
[06:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> which was i suposed to edit the new kernel or the old kernel? io mean the hardy kernel or the dapper kernel? i did the first e on the new kernel
[06:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> there it had three lists ubuntu disks kernel and something else so i went to kernel
[06:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> and typed e again
[06:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> then there was this
[06:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> D54587E4f loop=/ubuntu/disks/roo.tdosl ro quiet splash
[06:12] <Gr3y_> any alsa experts in here?
[06:12] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker the new kernel listed,   and when you hit   e the first time it will show the title; the kernel; and maybe some other lines.   select the "kernel" line and hit e again.
[06:13] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker wait.    are you running that from a "wubi" install ?
[06:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> what? no...i did install wubi at one point but no...i deleted that...that-s from when the kernel upgraded the other day
[06:15] <Agent_bob> well that line looks like it's looking for linux in ntfs space.    the   loop=/ubuntu/disks/roo.tdosl   portion you specified that is...       anyway it should have something like     root=/dev/hda2    and you change the  hda to sda  and go.
[06:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: so what do i do now?
[06:16] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker pastebin your  /boot/grub/menu.lst   and i'll see if i can make heads or tails of what you are saying/seeing
[06:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> haha
[06:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> got
[06:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> it
[06:17] <Gr3y_> the issue i'm having is that i installed a video card with an HDMI port, and now alsa wants to use that as it's primary output. but i'm piping into my tv via the onboard sound, how can I tell alsa to ignore the videocard so all my stuff works?
[06:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: which command for that:?
[06:18] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker you have a GUI ?   konqueror could let you view the contents of that file.
[06:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> but from the terminal
[06:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> what command do i type?
[06:18] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker ok.    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> !pastebin
[06:19] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker i don't need the comments so   maybe.     grep -v '^#' /boot/grub/menu.lst      would be more to our liking
[06:20] <Agent_bob> it's much shorter
[06:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27412/
[06:24] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker ok you are using UUID throughout and they are the same fs descriptor.  so that's not the issue.     i guess you will have to rebuild the initramfs image.
[06:25] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: sure
[06:25] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-386  2.6.24-19-386   # and watch for error messages.
[06:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait
[06:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> i will have to reboot it seems agent bob
[06:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> i did something odd on xfce...apparently
[06:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[06:28] <Agent_bob> ya don't reboot for that     </rolls_eyes>
[06:29]  * mr---t- reboot in linux ha ha
[06:30] <Agent_bob> mr---t- see,  see!  the old "reboot will fix anything" mentality rears it's ugly head in our free OS ....
[06:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob:
[06:35] <mr---t-> Agent_bob:  yes
[06:35] <Agent_bob> yes
[06:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i type in the terminal again?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-386  2.6.24-19-386   # and watch for error messages.
[06:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: nothing happened
[06:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-386  2.6.24-19-386 ?
[06:37] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker ok  good.  in linux "no error means no error"
[06:37] <Agent_bob> it should have asked for password tho
[06:37] <kubuntu> holaaaaaa ??'??'''''?????????????
[06:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes
[06:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> it did
[06:38] <Agent_bob> ok you can reboot into the new kernel now.     "we hope"
[06:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[06:38] <Agent_bob> at least that's the way to test it.
[06:39] <kubuntu> como estan todossss
[06:39] <Agent_bob> !es | kubuntu
[06:39] <Agent_bob> !en | kubuntu
[06:42] <kubuntu> ummm okkk .
[06:46]  * mr---t- will reboot just for the fun of it
[06:47] <spiel_mit_feuer> wheres the ubuntu off topic room?
[06:47] <Agent_bob> i reboot every day.
[06:48]  * mr---t- me too
[06:48] <flaccid> !ot | spiel_mit_feuer
[06:49] <flaccid> or maybe you want #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> how do i get there?
[06:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey flaccid.. i got my audio worked out
[06:49] <flaccid> like /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:49] <flaccid> yeah congrats. i have to walk the dogs now i'll bbl
[06:49] <spiel_mit_feuer> managed to get the pcm output routed to the spdif and the pcm output volume now works to control mine
[06:50]  * Agent_bob was starting to wonder about CostaRicanQuaker
[06:50] <flaccid> nice job
[06:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: this is not good...it did work sure, but thatñs a completely empty gnome, no moutned partition, no programs, no xfce and kde
[06:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do?
[06:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> i had to reboot in the old kernel again
[06:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> because this ubuntu didnt have xchat
[06:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> sure it's hardy but...
[06:51] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker hmmm   should have "irssi" a text based irc client
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt see it...it was definetly hardy heron
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> and new
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> but...waht do i do?
[06:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> i mean...how do i get rid of a kernel and import everything to the othe
[06:51] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker BUT !    it should have been the same system basicly
[06:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> should?
[06:52] <Agent_bob> yeah should.
[06:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> it wasnt, the taskbar was up, when i have it at the bottom
[06:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> and there was no option to boot from xubuntu or kubuntu like on here
[06:53]  * Agent_bob thinks boot is a misnomer there
[06:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> er...
[06:53] <Agent_bob> you don't boot a desktop environment.  you boot an operating system.   i.e.  linux   then you start the DE on top of that OS
[06:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> you know what i mean
[06:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> log
[06:55] <Agent_bob> yeah.  anyway.     starting a new kernel should not change the configurations of a linux system.   that's not how it works.
[06:55] <Agent_bob> let me revisit that menu.lst   stand by.
[06:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> mine or yours?
[06:56] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker right now you are running   2.6.15-52-386    "uname -r"
[06:56] <Agent_bob> ?
[06:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me see
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> yep
[06:59] <Agent_bob> there is nothing about that other kernel that should change things for you.      only thing that comes to my mind is that the other kernel might not have some module loading properly, and thus causing a failed mount of your home dir   that would explain diferent look and feel of the gui  but the system underneeth should be the same.
[07:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> but how come the settings are different, like the programs from kde arent there
[07:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> and the wallpaper, the desktop environment
[07:00] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker you know how to get to and from a console to gui right ?
[07:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> alt +ctrl+f1?
[07:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> and f7?
[07:01] <Agent_bob> yes
[07:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> so...
[07:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> waht do i do?
[07:04] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker boot the new kernel drop to a console and login then type " irssi -n kostaRicanQuaker -c irc.freenode.net "   /join #kubuntu   and lets have a look at what is going on there.
[07:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok wait
[07:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[07:07] <Agent_bob> woops i took my other me out too...
[07:07] <Agent_bob> oh well,  i dont need a clone
[07:09] <Agent_bob> oh krap.  i didn't mention to him to use alt+# to switch windows in irssi...   maybe i should hide now o.O
[07:10] <ericjones> how do i get java working in konqueror?
[07:10] <ericjones> !java
[07:10] <ericjones> I can never get java working.
[07:11] <Agent_bob>  sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:11] <ericjones> I have java installed. I just can't seem to get it working in the browser.
[07:11] <ericjones> I can use java in firefox Agent_bob.
[07:12] <Agent_bob> enabled globaly in konq's settings ?
[07:12] <ericjones> Yes sir
[07:12]  * Agent_bob <shrugs>   idk
[07:13] <ericjones> Agent_bob: does it have to be version 6? I have 5 because it's the only version that works with some sites I visit, such as pogo.com.
[07:13] <Agent_bob> i never use it, other than javascript in webbrowser every now an then.
[07:13] <Agent_bob> ericjones no.  5 should work
[07:14] <ericjones> Ok, thank you. Is there some other place I could look or ask?
[07:15] <Agent_bob> ericjones you can try here when others are active.   and you can ask in ##linux any time.   but that doesn't mean you'll get an answer.
[07:15] <ericjones> Agent_bob: thanks. i appreciate the help. I'm content to use firefox since I managed to get the qt/gtk issue worked out that makes it so ugly after first install. I just wanted to give it a try.
[07:16] <Agent_bob> ericjones repost your question here every half hour or so.   and you'll get someone that can answer it.
[07:16] <Agent_bob> !patience
[07:16] <ericjones> Agent_bob: will do. thanks again.
[07:16] <Agent_bob> welcome.
[07:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: didnt work
[07:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> i just downloaded xchat on this thing
[07:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> it-s not only stripped down from programs but much slower
[07:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> which is odd as it's just gnome
[07:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> so I'm on the gui
[07:23] <Agent_bob> ok lets look at the mount table and process table.    pastebin the output of   " pstree "   and    " cat /etc/fstab /proc/mounts "
[07:24] <Agent_bob> that will tell us what if anything is not mounted where it should be.
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> !pastebin
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont get why gnome is so slow
[07:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> it looks like it has some added eyecandy too...like the cube switch between desktops
[07:27] <Agent_bob> ah enabled effects will slow down the system and change the look/feel
[07:28] <ubuntu_> hi
[07:28] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_
[07:28] <ubuntu_> I have a problem with grub
[07:28] <Agent_bob> me too.
[07:28] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:28] <ubuntu_> :'(
[07:28] <ubuntu_> ahah
[07:28] <Agent_bob> but we can probably solve yours
[07:29] <ubuntu_> I have read all guide
[07:29]  * CostaRicanQuaker taps fingers on desktop while firefox opens pastebin 
[07:29] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ just spell out what the issue is.
[07:30] <ubuntu_> but there is anything I missi
[07:30] <ubuntu_> I have 3 hd
[07:30] <ubuntu_> one of them is partitionated with swap and /
[07:30] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: dillo is a very fast browser. Or you can upgrade to firefox3
[07:31] <ubuntu_> another for /home
[07:31] <ubuntu_> the third nothing
[07:31] <Agent_bob> how big is /
[07:31] <ubuntu_> 240 Gb
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> or there's w3m, which is terminal based. (But it's annoying, I prefer lynx)
[07:31] <Agent_bob> that could be the problem
[07:32] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon elinks
[07:32] <ubuntu_> is / bigger?
[07:34] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: gotcha, installing
[07:34] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ yeah i'm not sure how large of an fs grub can mount     it may not support > 100g    but a simple solution would be to add a small boot partition some place and mount it to /mnt  copy the content of /boot  remount /mnt to /boot then reinstall grub
[07:35] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon the default config for elinks has black on white which i dont like  but it's easily changed
[07:36] <ubuntu_> ok....one moment...I have no windows system on other partition, but when I have installed Kubuntu I have done logical partitio, so I have no primary partition...is this the problem?
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: Really? I'm seeing white-text-on-black
[07:36] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon good.  they changed it   lol
[07:36] <Agent_bob> i was hoping they would
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> It's black-and-white. :/
[07:37] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ no.  linux doesn't much care where it lives as long as the filesystem supports full posix attributes
[07:37] <ubuntu_> ok...
[07:37] <vbgunz> anyone know of a good bookmark manager that can merge firefox and konqueror book marks into one? remove duplicates?
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> (Thought: Default name for irc clients on livecd's should be "ubuntu-installer"...)
[07:38] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ may i ask why you gave / 200+g of space and also have a seperate /home  ?
[07:38] <Agent_bob> my / takes about 5g
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> ubuntu_   / really doesn't need to be that big for generic home use
[07:39] <ubuntu_> i have 2 hd of 250Gb
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: this had already happened, here-s what i did i just turned off the visual effects and lost: the buttons to minimize, maximize and close, the title bars on windows and i cant get windows to swtich as clicking on the task bar wont do anything
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> ah. It'd be nice to have /home across two hard drives...
[07:39] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ but making / too big may have just caused you an issue... ;/
[07:40] <ubuntu_> mmm ok
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> so waht do i do? someone had told me to do something like rf whtever...
[07:40] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon i can think of two ways to do that
[07:40] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: Do tell. Let me guess... LVM and raid?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> ok lets look at the mount table and process table.    pastebin the output of   " pstree "   and    " cat /etc/fstab /proc/mounts "
[07:40] <ubuntu_> how should it be big?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker   ^
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes?
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> i cant
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> i cant move to windows etc
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> somethign happened to the config
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> no minimize buttons, no way of moving windows or switching windows
[07:41] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ oh i doubt that you would fill 20g root partition before you buy new hardware.
[07:42] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker cant  "alt+tab"   cant alt+[left_mouse]  drag the window ?
[07:42] <CostaRicanQuaker> this had happened to me with kde and someone helped me erlier
[07:42] <ubuntu_> I can do / 100gb? is it true?
[07:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: nope
[07:43] <ubuntu_> Haven't I any problem in the future?
[07:43] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: alt-f1; login; export DISPLAY=:0; kwin &; alt-f7 ?
[07:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> someone had told me to type something like rm or
[07:43] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ search for file system size limitations in grub.  i really don't know what the max partition size is for grub.
[07:43] <purpleposeidon> Though I don't know what your whole problem is
[07:44] <purpleposeidon> max partition size in grub? o_O
[07:44] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon yes how large of an fs can grub mount to load it's files  ?
[07:44] <ubuntu_> however this isn't the problem...because before I have grub on a partition of 300Gb...
[07:45] <ubuntu_> I think it is a problem of menu.lst
[07:45] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon he just tried / > 250g
[07:45] <purpleposeidon> No idea....
[07:45] <purpleposeidon> but yeah, 250g / is really wasteful
[07:46] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ you had a working grub with   the boot file in a 300g partition ?
[07:46] <aib> i have a 64 bit system. why is /lib/ld-linux.so.2 a symlink to /usr/lib32/ld-linux.so.2, which is a 32 bit library?!
[07:46] <ubuntu_> before I had raid
[07:47] <ubuntu_> so...it was so big
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> i cant type that command into the terminal
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> because i cant find a way to type ;
[07:48] <ubuntu_> why, if now I set root=/dev/sda6 and I'll restart system grub doesn't work and after sda6 isn't my / partition but is sdb6 or sdc6?
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> as the layout for f1 seems to be in english
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i cant get that sign with my keyboard
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> nor paste
[07:48] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: Really? I would think the function keys would be pretty, uh, standard
[07:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh wait i found it
[07:49] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: Okay, wait
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> the program kwin
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> isnot currently installed
[07:50] <purpleposeidon> pressing ctrl-alt-f7 should bring you back to your normal screen.
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> you can install it by sudo...etc
[07:50] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: Oh, uhm, metacity then?
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> whats the command?
[07:51] <purpleposeidon> export DISPLAY=:0; metacity
[07:51] <purpleposeidon> if you use gnome
[07:51] <ubuntu_> in grub I must set device (hd??) ?
[07:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> cool
[07:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> everything's back to normal
[07:51] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon note.  he was using the system without issue until reboot into newer kernel.
[07:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: now what?
[07:51] <purpleposeidon> oh, I see. That's interesting.
[07:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> oh yeah
[07:51] <CostaRicanQuaker> hold on
[07:52] <ubuntu_> if my / is on sda6 I'll set device (hd0), is it right?
[07:52] <purpleposeidon> It usually keeps the old kernels on the list.
[07:52] <purpleposeidon> and if not, I think there's a backup of menu.lst
[07:52] <stevecarolinian> I getting java script errors when tryin to check my hotmail email.  Anyone know what I can do to remedy this?
[07:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27425/
[07:53] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ probably (hd0,1)   maybe  (hd0,0)  even.
[07:53] <ubuntu_> no...error 15: file not found
[07:53] <ubuntu_> :s
[07:53] <purpleposeidon> ubuntu_: Is there not a /boot/grub/menu.lst~ ?
[07:54] <ubuntu_> sì
[07:54] <ubuntu_> yes
[07:54] <Agent_bob> compiz  <<<  ^   CostaRicanQuaker that's the new effects you mentioned.
[07:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/27426/
[07:54] <Agent_bob> yeah looking.
[07:54] <purpleposeidon> ubuntu_ You could try going into the grub console and typing configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst~
[07:55] <ublongata> anyone know how the hell to get firefox to play rtsp streams with realplayer.. i added some long string in about:config pointing to the binary but absolutely nothing happens when i click a rtsp link
[07:57] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27427/
[07:57] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker software raid ?
[07:57] <ubuntu_> this is boot/grub/menu.lst~
[07:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: what?
[07:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> is that a command for me to enter?
[07:58] <Agent_bob> are you using a software raid ?
[07:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is that?
[07:59] <Agent_bob> ok we hope you are not then.
[07:59] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon you know anything about raid setups in fstab ?
[08:00] <purpleposeidon> not a thing
[08:00] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker that looks like the fstab of a raid array
[08:00] <Agent_bob> and i know nothing about raid setups
[08:00] <purpleposeidon> whoa, that's long
[08:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: what do i do?
[08:01] <purpleposeidon> oh, that's also /proc/mounts
[08:01] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker is it working ?    don't do anything  to it if it's working.
[08:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is working'
[08:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?*
[08:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> is what working?
[08:01] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker your system.
[08:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> my system's working, but there's no mounted partition, previously installed programs and desktop envrionments on this kernel
[08:02] <Agent_bob> cause you got out of my league with that fstab setup.    and i probably can't fix it if we break it.
[08:03] <Agent_bob> so may i sujest you just reinstall what you want now in that system and go with it.
[08:03] <purpleposeidon> oh, it's wubi
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> what about the old kernel?
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> I did install wubi once
[08:03] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker you are in it now.
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> thinking it might do for a what do you call it...clean install
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> i am in what?
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> am in wubi?
[08:03] <Agent_bob> the wubi install
[08:03] <Agent_bob> looks to me like
[08:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> but...i had uninstalled it
[08:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> is that good or bad?
[08:04] <purpleposeidon> it's interesting.
[08:04] <Agent_bob> that would also explain the    mount.ntfs process that's running
[08:04]  * CostaRicanQuaker feels like he has a weird new disease
[08:04] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker you explained it exactly
[08:04] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:05] <Agent_bob> that's how i feel about your system.
[08:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> well, what am i to do from now on? it looks like this kernel is...well, the upgrade
[08:05]  * purpleposeidon goes into the corner to dicuss CostaRicanQuaker's issues with grim expressions
[08:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> ha. ha.
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do!? ..., .... *sigh* :S
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> so apparently...this is what the upgrade is...but wht about the other stuff?
[08:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i get rid of theother kernel then?
[08:06] <Agent_bob> enjoy the fact that you have managed to setup a running linux system inside of a file somewhere.
[08:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> because thats definetly going to be taking up space
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: I'm going to guess that you *think* you uninstalled wubi, but you actually didn't
[08:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> am i running from windows!?
[08:07]  * CostaRicanQuaker shrieks
[08:07]  * CostaRicanQuaker winces
[08:07] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker no  you are running a linux system that is installed inside a file
[08:07] <purpleposeidon> Not really.
[08:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> inside a file...where?
[08:08] <purpleposeidon> Unless you somehow managed to blue-pill yourself
[08:08] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker that's the $64k Q is it not.
[08:08] <purpleposeidon> CostaRicanQuaker: tell me about the output of  ls /host
[08:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> is it safe?
[08:09] <purpleposeidon> My command is safe.
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> no i meant
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> is it safe for me to be the way i am now
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27428/
[08:11] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker  yes it's safe.   but probably slower.    i think i know where you are.   i said "think"   reboot the older kernel and do an    ls /host/ubuntu/disks -l     and see if there are not three very larg files in there.
[08:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok here's the one from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/27428/
[08:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[08:11] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon you know that ls / right now with that file mounted over / will hide the origenal /
[08:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: so do i go?
[08:12] <Agent_bob> woops.
[08:12] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker wait
[08:12] <ubuntu_> how should I do big /boot?
[08:13] <ubuntu_> boot partition
[08:13] <ubuntu_> 1 gb?
[08:13] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ i would make /boot about 1g
[08:13] <Agent_bob> yeah
[08:13] <ubuntu_> ok
[08:13] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker you are in ntfs space.
[08:13] <purpleposeidon> 1gb? uhhh
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> no
[08:14] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon his / is 250g
[08:14] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker yep.
[08:14] <purpleposeidon> Yeah, but still...
[08:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok so what od i do
[08:14] <Agent_bob> sda1 is ntfs
[08:14] <purpleposeidon> ubuntu_: Myself, I'd make it like 300mb
[08:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[08:15] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker ls /boot
[08:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> abi-2.6.24-19-generic     initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic      System.map-2.6.24-19-generic
[08:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> config-2.6.24-19-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic.bak  vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic
[08:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> grub                      memtest86+.bin
[08:16] <ubuntu_> I make /boot parition -> ext3?
[08:17] <Agent_bob> journal is not needed   ext2 would be fine.  but it won't hurt anything either.
[08:17] <purpleposeidon> I wonder if there's any performance difference as far as start-up between ext2 and ext3
[08:17] <purpleposeidon> No? I didn't think so either.
[08:18] <Agent_bob> not enough to measure purpleposeidon
[08:18] <Agent_bob> human measurements.   not cpu tic's
[08:19] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: I've been living off of an ubuntu livecd, floppy disks and a 1gb flash drive with U3 on it. Trust me, you want to save space.
[08:19] <Agent_bob> you can measure time change by changing the lingth of a file name. in cpu tics
[08:20]  * CostaRicanQuaker puts water in the microwave for tea
[08:20] <ubuntu_> root partition (/) -> 100gb is good?
[08:21] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon heh.   well.  when you are wasting over 250g in the / and home is the same size   i don't think he'll miss a few houndred m in /boot
[08:21] <Agent_bob> ubunut_ it's plenty
[08:21] <purpleposeidon> He could make an empty 230GB partition and then figure out how to merge it with /home
[08:21] <Agent_bob> it's probably 10x what you will actually use....
[08:22] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon he has an empty/untouched drive..
[08:22] <purpleposeidon> mount /dev/sda3 /home/`whoami`/pr0n
[08:23] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon and unionfs can "merge" them.
[08:23] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: If you say so. :D I've never done anything with unionfs
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: what do i do now
[08:25] <ubuntu_> ok I have done /boot (500mb) swap (1gb) / all on one hd
[08:25] <ubuntu_> on the other /home
[08:25] <ubuntu_> I hope this solve my problem
[08:25] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker back you your "weird new disease"  use it like it is man.   if you have the disk space some place you could copy all the files form /* to a safe place   mop out that drive and start over with the files you saved...  but. that's not as easy as it sounds either.
[08:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> i didnt get that
[08:26] <Agent_bob> i'll clean it up.
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> can i get rid of the old kernel? on what partition am i now? ...i cant be on here if this is the windows partition...right?
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> that will eventually be chaos for the hard drive or not?
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> what part of the disk is this on?
[08:28] <guido> hola?
[08:28] <purpleposeidon> !es | guido
[08:29] <guido> ok, sorry
[08:29] <purpleposeidon> well, you can speak english here if you want.
[08:29] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker back to your "weird new disease" as you called it.  use it just the way it is.        if you have the disk space somewhere, and you want to try, you could copy all the files form /* to a safe place,(other disk)   mop out that drive(cat zero > device) and start over with the files you saved...  in other words move out of wubi(ntfs space)  but! that's not as easy as it sounds,  and a clean install would still b
[08:30] <guido> I'm totally new at kubuntu and I was wondering if I could get some help :)
[08:30] <Agent_bob> technecly you are not in a partition, you are in a file on a partition.    i don't know a better way to put it.
[08:30] <Agent_bob> !welcome | guido
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...so how much diskspace do i have on this...kernel?
[08:30] <Agent_bob> !help | guido
[08:31] <purpleposeidon> guido: We don't actually talk to eachother here, we use the bot.
[08:31] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker "df -h" should be able to answer that.
[08:31] <guido> ohh, I see
[08:31] <guido> ok
[08:31] <guido> thanks
[08:31] <purpleposeidon> guido: I was joking.
[08:31]  * Agent_bob slips a firecracker under purpleposeidon 's shoe and lights it.
[08:31] <guido> lol
[08:31] <guido> like I mentioned, I'm totally new at this
[08:32] <purpleposeidon> like, totally
[08:32] <guido> I know there's this whole culture about it
[08:32] <purpleposeidon> !ask | guido
[08:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27431/
[08:32] <Agent_bob> it's like you know like totally, dude.
[08:33] <guido> indeed
[08:33] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker looks like you have 11g free in that file.
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> so here's what is best i think
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> erase this ubuntu
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> with its kernel and everything
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> and go abck to the old kernel
[08:34] <Agent_bob> aka mop out the disk.
[08:34] <BritneyBitch> Im here!!!
[08:34] <BritneyBitch> Haha
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> and forget about it till i get the cds from shipit
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> aka mopout the disk?
[08:34] <adrien> Bonjour le monde
[08:34] <CostaRicanQuaker> there must be some way to get this wubied ubutu out of ntsf right?
[08:35] <BritneyBitch> Bonjour
[08:35] <purpleposeidon> !fr
[08:35] <adrien> #kubuntu-fr
[08:35] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker like i said you can copy it to another location.   even on the same hdd but i prefer a seperate hdd for the transfer.
[08:36] <Agent_bob> and doing so is not childs play.
[08:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> cant it jsut be erased?
[08:36] <Agent_bob> and you are still young in linux time.
[08:36] <Agent_bob> yes it can.
[08:36] <purpleposeidon> Agent_bob: fire crackers are SO 1950's
[08:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> i've been just squirted
[08:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> in linux time
[08:36] <Agent_bob> purpleposeidon :)   what would you have?  a car bomb ?
[08:37] <purpleposeidon> car bombs are so middle-east. Which is 58 years behind. SO 1950's.
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> my question is: can i delete this ubuntu from the ntsf partition without erasing THE ntsf partition and then go back to my everday old kernel life until i can upgrade with the cds from shipit
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[08:38] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker i used to have a moto "i reload twice a week wheather i need to or not"     now i haven't reloaded this system in over three years.
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> reload?
[08:38] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: my question is whats going to be the difference between what you have installed now and what you will install?
[08:38] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker i'm not sure the other kernel isn't also in wubi land.
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> i'm sure it isnt!
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> can you wait for me to log out and go check?
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> good, brb
[08:39] <Agent_bob> cpk1 it's in wubi land on ntfs.   i.e. preformance loss for one.
[08:39] <BritneyBitch> balalalalalal
[08:39] <BritneyBitch> blubbblubbblubbblubbblubbblubb
[08:39] <purpleposeidon> !stfu | BritneyBitch
[08:39] <bob3213243_> is there a way to test my LAN speed in ubuntu?
[08:40] <cpk1> oh I see I read it as nfs =P
[08:40] <purpleposeidon> oh. interesting.
[08:40] <purpleposeidon> jfgi? hmm
[08:40] <cpk1> google it purpleposeidon =P
[08:40] <BritneyBitch> you are n00bs!
[08:40] <purpleposeidon> amazing, wtf doesn't know wtf it is either
[08:40] <purpleposeidon> amazing.
[08:41] <cpk1> BritneyBitch: might want to consider changing your name
[08:41] <Agent_bob> BritneyBitch play nice.
[08:41] <cpk1> Agent_bob: I suppose the easiest thing for him would be to make a linux friendly partition and move everything to that and then keep or delete the ntfs partition
[08:41] <cpk1> hopefully he has space for it
[08:42] <BritneyBitch> You are so a n000b, i hate this channel. bye, bye, i will coming never
[08:42] <cpk1> if not then he obviously needs a newer, bigger hdd =P
[08:42] <cpk1> and now we are all enlightened
[08:43] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_Bob: now what do i do?
[08:44] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: if you just want to get your linux stuff off of the ntfs partition I would recommend if you have the space for it creating a linux friendly partition and then moving everything over to that and then doing whatever you wish with the ntfs partition after that
[08:44] <cpk1> if I understand your problem correctly
[08:44] <Agent_bob> cpk1 migrating is not that easy for a beginner either. there are several things that aren't obvious to them.   like the fstab the initramfs image and the boot loader all have to be altered,  as well as the fact that you have to copy without changing ownership or permissions, and hardlinks duplicate files when copied unless special attention is paid, not to mention the fact that you can just copy the device nodes or you'll get
[08:45] <purpleposeidon> lol@enlightenment.cpk1.com
[08:45] <cpk1> Agent_bob: I would just move the /home really...
[08:46] <Agent_bob> cpk1 that wouldn't speed up the system tho.
[08:46] <ubuntu_> ok I have finished installation
[08:46] <ubuntu_> now I must only reboot system?
[08:46] <cpk1> Agent_bob: make a partition for /home and then one for / to install into
[08:46] <Agent_bob> installed what ubuntu_ ?
[08:46] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[08:47] <cpk1> then he has escaped ntfs
[08:47] <ubuntu_> I have reinstalled all
[08:47] <Agent_bob> cpk1 install is what i recommend but he is waiting on shipit to arrive
[08:47] <cpk1> heck you could just resize the available space and install into that then mount the ntfs and move over /home
[08:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> cpkl migrating is not that easy for a....was to me or to cpckl Agent_bob?
[08:48] <minhaaj> any help installing adesklets ?
[08:48] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker was about you and to him.   i'm trying to NOT put through the linux school of hard knocks   if possable.
[08:49] <cpk1> heh, sometimes its the best way to learn =P
[08:49] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ yes should be a simple reboot into the newly installed kubuntu system.
[08:49] <ubuntu_> thanks
[08:49] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: just know that there is no reason for you to lose your data in your /home there are plenty of options for you to move the data around and what not
[08:50] <Agent_bob> cpk1 but it will make you beat your wife...
[08:50] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...so waht's the best way to go
[08:50] <Agent_bob> cpk1 it's also a "new" home.
[08:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> my aunt just let me know yesterday, gentlemen, that i got apackage from the netherlands
[08:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont know if thats where the shipit cds are meant ot come from
[08:51] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker best over all.     clean install with the new cd's.    best for learning, probably migrate to a clean spot.
[08:52] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker remember that we don't need to "relearn all this"  and too many "ok what now?"   will ware out the help...
[08:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: promise you'll help me: install either gnu's icecat or debian swifteasel, permanently mount the ntsf partition, kill george bush, etc?
[08:54] <Agent_bob> why did you pull the fire alarm !
[08:54] <liquidat> Hi there, will the RC1 packages be ready today?
[08:54] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: I would say resizing your current partition to make room for an ext3 partition to install to and then moving over any data you want to save from ntfs to ext3 will be fairly easy and make a little more comfortable farting around on linux
[08:54] <Jucato> (for better or worse, till death do us part?)
[08:54] <cpk1> !ibex
[08:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> or at least you know, mount the partition and finding the repo for swifteasel or icecat
[08:54] <Jucato> liquidat: KDE 4.1 RC1? if yes, try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: ?
[08:54]  * Jucato is surprised to see liquidat in here :P
[08:55] <liquidat> Jucato: :-p
[08:55] <liquidat> Jucato: At my work I had to install a debian based distribution on my computer - so I went for Kubuntu ;)
[08:55] <Jucato> liquidat: aaaah.. I thought you made a complete conversion :P
[08:56] <liquidat> Jucato: Sorry to disappoint :D
[08:56] <Jucato> liquidat: oh, and the neon nightly builds probably have the latest and it's kubuntu based.. just not sure where their IRC channel is :D
[08:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: cpkl: i think i will just mope out the whole disk, reinstall windows and then ubuntu wheni get the cds hopefully tomorrow
[08:57] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker good call.    imo
[08:57] <liquidat> Jucato: Does neon provide a full KDE 4?
[08:57] <liquidat> I thought they were only providing Amarok 2 packages...
[08:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: please help me mount the partition when i have to again, i tried doing iot on my own once and hten it turned out that it wasnt permanent
[08:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> and also it was a pain to get the repos and the propper swifteasel
[08:58] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker we'll burn that bridge when we cross it.   i make no promises    not even that i'll be here.  let alone do any particular theing.
[08:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: policy or you too have grown annoyed by yours truly?
[08:59] <Agent_bob> policy mostly :)
[08:59] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: we are all volunteer help, we have lives outside of irc =)
[09:00] <Agent_bob> and Jucato is the network guru extraordenare.
[09:01] <Agent_bob> or maybe not....    :)
[09:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes me too...my girl, shemight be attempting to break with me again...she's coming back from the US, she's 45, i'm 22...humans are unreliable, and they dont get it, i play the guitar and there's just no appreciation but i dont think that when you enter you go out unless you have a good rationale, and everythings an ethical choice, thats why i just got into gnu/linux and ubuntu
[09:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want to become a programmer and learn everythingthere is about ubuntu
[09:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> and then have no life and spent my time helping on irc
[09:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> programs seem more consistent or rational than people
[09:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> less painful too
[09:02] <Jucato> liquidat: full KDE (sorry stepped out a bit)
[09:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> thanks for your help
[09:03] <liquidat> Jucato: Ah, sounds perfect :)
[09:04] <liquidat> Jucato: I was just told that the neon packages are already KDE 4.2 Alpha....
[09:04] <liquidat> That is a bit too much... ;)
[09:04] <Jucato> liquidat: oh they're tracking trunk? hm.. ok.. :)
[09:05] <Agent_bob> CostaRicanQuaker programs seem more consistent or rational than people <<< indeed consistent,  but rational ?    the definition of that would be debatable.   as of yet, computers don't think.   (a.i. is not quite that far along yet)
[09:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> rational meaning they stick to algorithms
[09:06] <Agent_bob> anyway.   welcome. and i'll see you in a day or two.
[09:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> reasons
[09:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes, may peace be upon you
[09:06] <Agent_bob> than you.    Shalom Aleichem
[09:13] <dasy2k1> hi all
[09:13] <dasy2k1> anyone else finding that clicking on a link in kubuntu tries to download the page and asks if you want to save or open with kate?
[09:13] <dasy2k1> *with konqueror
[09:21] <oobe> hello
[09:22] <oobe> dasy2k1, no i dont find that
[09:23] <dasy2k1> hmm odd
[09:23] <dasy2k1> firefox and opera work fine but not konqueror
[09:23] <oobe> thats not to much of a problem for me as i prefer firefox
[09:24] <dasy2k1> indeed, firefox is my faviorite too
[09:24] <minhaaj> i am trying to install screenlets but i don't know the name of the launcher bar where all the icons sit on bottom
[09:24] <minhaaj> what do you call it ?
[09:24] <dasy2k1> but sometimes i like to log in to the same site with 2 user accounts at the same time
[09:25] <dasy2k1> @minhaaj do you mean kicker?
[09:25] <oobe> dasy2k1, what if you type the url in
[09:25] <dasy2k1> @oobe woks fine then
[09:25] <minhaaj> nope
[09:25] <minhaaj> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVViZfs7Qxg
[09:25] <minhaaj> see this
[09:25] <minhaaj> the launcher bar at the bottom where all icons are in line
[09:26] <oobe> dasy2k1, you should check konqueror file associations some where in system settings i cant remember where
[09:26] <minhaaj> any idea ?
[09:27] <dasy2k1> looks like kooldock to me
[09:28] <minhaaj> thats a screenlet but i don't know what that thing is called so that i can search for that
[09:28] <dasy2k1> the mack dock like thing you mean?
[09:28] <dasy2k1> *mac
[09:28] <dasy2k1> the screenlet prog or the screenlet itself
[09:29] <bazhang> !awn
[09:29] <minhaaj> yes
[09:29] <bazhang> see above
[09:29] <minhaaj> oh i have test awn
[09:29] <minhaaj> didnt like
[09:29] <dasy2k1> try kooldock then
[09:29] <minhaaj> works with ubuntu ?
[09:30] <dasy2k1> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12097
[09:30] <minhaaj> i dont use kde
[09:30] <minhaaj> i am on gnome
[09:30] <dasy2k1> why are you in the #kubuntu channel then?
[09:30] <minhaaj> i am already using gdesklets thats pretty dull. i want a one-stop solution for a cool dock
[09:30] <minhaaj> its ubuntu anyways
[09:30]  * flaccid yawns
[09:30] <minhaaj> hey flaccid
[09:31] <flaccid> hi. im going to go out and avoid you g polutions :p
[09:31] <flaccid> +r . cyas!
[09:31] <minhaaj> lol
[09:34] <flaccid> haha
[09:34] <flaccid> ok im off cia0
[10:14] <MrKennie> anyone know of a gtk theme that improves the look of FF3? Input fields looks aweful compared to FF2.
[10:48] <eagles0513875> \join #vmware
[11:03] <ahmed> !ubuntu
[11:04] <ahmed> how to install *.bin files
[11:06] <dasy2k1> sh file.bin normally works
[11:37] <minhaaj> how do you compile from source ?
[11:38] <dasy2k1> minhaaj: normally with, ./confiugure, make , make install
[11:38] <jussi01> !compile
[11:46] <minhaaj> i have been trying to get a dock since this morning
[11:46] <minhaaj> and it won't work
[11:46] <minhaaj> adesklets, screenlets, awn nothing works
[11:46] <minhaaj> i have gdesklets at the moment and its pretty crappy
[11:46] <ahmos> !java
[11:55] <filo1234> hello i need to use my phone for connection, i'm folowing this wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup so but bluez-pin is non available package what sobstitude it?
[12:01] <zielony> hallo
[12:01] <zielony>  tou see me
[12:02] <zielony>  iIm new in this world
[12:03] <mooperd> Hi, I have just booted the kubuntu 8.04 64 bit live CD but my USB keyboard does not work. the mouse and ps/2 keyboard does
[12:03] <mooperd> any Ideas?
[12:05] <dasy2k1> !welcome zielony
[12:05] <dasy2k1> !welcome | zielony
[12:06] <dasy2k1> mooperd: not sure there, plug it in a pastebin the output of lspci
[12:11] <filo1234> !bluetooth
[12:15] <zielony> hallo
[12:19] <rocktal> salut
[12:20] <rocktal> comment sa va ?
[12:20] <rocktal> i am french
[12:22] <new> salut
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[12:27] <lumm> oh mann
[12:27] <lumm> :(
[12:27] <Pici> julian_: stop
[12:27] <lumm> langeweile?
[12:27] <julian_> is this a nøøb-channel?
[12:27] <Pici> julian_: This is the Kubuntu Support channel.
[12:27] <lumm> now it looks like yes
[12:27] <lumm> :P
[12:28] <julian_> ah, okay, you noob. you a noob are :[]
[12:32] <Pixeltime> Can someone tell me where Folder View is in Beta 2 ?
[12:37] <ahmos> !nvidia
[12:53] <Ayabara> after upgrading bios my touchpad has gone mad. is there a way I can reconfigure it?
[13:01] <adrien_> #Kubuntu-fr
[13:01] <Ayabara> should the Touchpad menu be in preferences by default on my laptop?
[13:11] <mooperd> I have just installed 64 kubuntu on my machine and I am having problems with the USB keyboard not working. It seems to not work when I have 4GB of ram installed but it is okay when I have 2 GB.
[13:12] <mooperd> I would also like some guidence on setting up the two screens I have on an ATI X1650 Pro card in dual head
[13:16] <Lupus-SLE> Hey guise and gals... My system tray on KDE usually has 2 icons together in a columb (on on top of the other) but recently as I open an icon they all go into a row which is irritating because it's stealing the space I use for programs... I can fix it by making the taskbar higher and then lowering it back to the 48 I want. How can I stop this happening?
[13:20] <adrien_> #ubuntu-fr
[13:26] <shrinath> anybody home?
[13:27] <shrinath> this is my first IRC session
[13:27] <shrinath> Hello World!! :)
[13:33] <Lupus-SLE> shrinath: Welcome to IRC, enjoy your trolls
[13:33] <shrinath> thanks
[13:34] <shrinath> Query - what are the relative advantages of using Gnome over KDE?
[13:34] <shrinath> I kind of prefer Kubuntu
[13:34] <shrinath> Am a newbie to Linux, as is obvious by now
[13:34] <mooperd> Hi, Im trying to get opengl working
[13:35] <mooperd> when I run glxinfo it just reads out "name of display: :0.0"
[13:36] <mooperd> Im using the 64 version
[13:37] <mooperd> glxgears does nowt too
[13:47] <bas> hi
[13:59] <harmental> hey guys...how can i upgrade to intrepid...(update-manager -d) doesnt seem to work properly on kubuntu
[14:00] <KEBA> hallo
[14:00] <jussi01> harmental: #ubuntu+1 - and please read the topic
[14:00] <jussi01> hi KEBA
[14:00] <KEBA> ich brauch dringend einen screen vom Adept
[14:00] <jussi01> !de
[14:00] <KEBA> ah english...
[14:00] <KEBA> right, im sorry
[14:01] <KEBA> im needing a screen of adept... could someone help?
[14:01] <jussi01> KEBA: a "screen"?
[14:01] <KEBA> screenshot
[14:02] <KEBA> in a open window... adept
[14:02] <jussi01> KEBA: Impretty sure that the adept site has some
[14:02] <KEBA> only that what come whe nyou start it
[14:03] <jussi01> KEBA: so what do you need?
[14:03] <KEBA> jussi01: i need it under "CC" lizenze... i dont have the time to ask them there...
[14:03] <jussi01> KEBA: is bsd license ok?
[14:03] <KEBA> start adept... then a window comes... and then: make a screen
[14:03] <KEBA> shot
[14:03] <jussi01> KEBA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Adept_Manager_screenshot.png
[14:04] <KEBA> i dont know... i want to publish it under cc-sa-by in a free linux magazine
[14:05] <jussi01> KEBA: you have ubuntu installed?
[14:05] <KEBA> yes, with gnome...
[14:08] <KEBA> couldnt you help me, jussi01?
[14:09] <jussi01> KEBA: patience!!!! (im doing it)
[14:10] <KEBA> k
[14:12] <jussi01> KEBA: http://imagebin.ca/view/RlqLbQ45.html
[14:13] <jussi01> KEBA: thats on kde4
[14:15] <lyhana8> hi, i want to patch knewsticker but i don't know how ? (http://www.student.uni-oldenburg.de/frerich.raabe/knewsticker/)
[14:16] <mooperd> ﻿Hi, I am trying to install my ATI sapphire x1650 pro on my 64 bit kubuntu. I get this error when I run fglrxinfo
[14:16] <mooperd> fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:16] <lyhana8> mooperd: did you try envyng ?
[14:17] <mooperd> lyhana8: nope
[14:17] <lyhana8> mooperd: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[14:17] <mooperd> lyhana8: I dont have an nvidia card
[14:17] <jussi01> !info envyng
[14:17] <jussi01> !info envy-ng
[14:17] <lyhana8> mooperd: it's an apps that will manage the driver install for you (using property driver)
[14:17] <jussi01> bleh
[14:18] <jussi01> !envyng
[14:18] <Pici> !info envyng-qt
[14:19] <lyhana8> anyone know how to install a patch ?
[14:19] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: Adept updater?
[14:21] <lyhana8> Lupus-SLE: i install the apps (knewsticker) using adept_manager. I just find a patch that allow to chose the browser in which links will be open
[14:22] <mooperd> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:22] <mooperd>  xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:22] <mooperd> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:22] <mooperd> I think its all broken
[14:22] <Lupus-SLE> mooperd: Try running dpkg and see what it says
[14:22] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: You've found a patch?
[14:22] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: I'm not sure about your grammar
[14:22] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: Presuming Engllish isn't your first language?
[14:22] <mooperd> Lupus-SLE: dpkg what?
[14:23] <Lupus-SLE> By itself
[14:23] <mooperd> dpkg: need an action option
[14:23] <lyhana8> Lupus-SLE: yep sorry. I find a *.diff on the official site to patch the apps
[14:23] <lyhana8> Lupus-SLE: http://www.student.uni-oldenburg.de/frerich.raabe/knewsticker/
[14:24] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: If it's an application specific addon then there should be a took to add it. Have a good look through the menus
[14:24] <Lupus-SLE> I'm presuming you're german of which you need to do the following
[14:24] <Lupus-SLE> !de
[14:25] <lyhana8> Lupus-SLE: german o_O ? i'm french
[14:26] <Lupus-SLE> !fr
[14:26] <senethril> lol
[14:26] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: You linked me to a site with .de in the name
[14:26] <senethril> love
[14:26] <Lupus-SLE> lyhana8: Personally I've never used the app knewsticker
[14:27] <lyhana8> Lupus-SLE: .de but in english
[14:29] <senethril> *-*
[14:29] <Lupus-SLE> WELL I NEVER CLCIKED THE LINK DID I?!
[14:29] <Pici> Calm down.
[14:30] <senethril> Today the belgium is split into two states
[14:30] <senethril> but
[14:30] <mooperd> http://rafb.net/p/rtGElb32.html Im getting this error with apt, does anyone have an Idea how I can fix it?
[14:30] <senethril> love
[14:30] <dasy2k1> !shout
[14:32] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:58] <ronald_> k
[15:01] <knulfine> !de
[15:04] <dasy2k1> !test the bot
[15:09] <Pooh22> I've lost my recycle bin on my desktop, any pointers on how to get it back? (Which config files/symlinks, etc are needed for it to work? Just a symlink to my trash directory doesn't work as a recycle bin)
[15:09] <compilerwriter> trappist what exactly is linux kungfu your personal distro?
[15:10] <dasy2k1> !trashicon | Pooh22
[15:10] <Pooh22> dasy2k1: tnx, looking now...
[15:12] <trappist> compilerwriter: nope just my domain
[15:19] <Pooh22> dasy2k1: I now have an icon (I had to create the file), but it doesn't behave like a true recycle bin, the right-mouse menu is for a directory and/or symlink, it doesn't show "Empty Recycle Bin" as an option
[15:20] <Pooh22> the file is trash.desktop in ~/Desktop and it points to .local/Share/Trash
[15:21] <kalorin> !dvd player
[15:23] <Nece228> wheres kde 4.1 rc?
[15:23] <Tm_T> Nece228: there's no RC yet?
[15:24] <Nece228> theres no announcement in kde.org
[15:24] <kalorin> does anyone know what the deal is with getting a commercial dvd to play under linux?
[15:24] <jussi01> Nece228: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:24] <Nece228> thasnks
[15:24] <jussi01> !dvd | kalorin
[15:24] <kalorin> k
[15:25] <Pooh22> nevermind, the url in trash.desktop is supposed to point to trash:/ (which magically resolves to ~/local/Share/Trash)
[15:27] <bibstha> how can i disable the touchpad on my laptop?
[15:29] <koyji> ?
[15:29] <koyji> anything going on in here?
[15:32] <ronr_laptop> hi, my kubuntu laptop always starts with the lowest possible brightness (and comes back from a screen blank with the lowest possible brightness), how can I set the default brightness (this is an issue both in X as in console)?
[15:39] <Rudd-O> hey there guys, heavy question: I have 64bit xeon and am running hardy 32 bit.  What do I need to run the 64bit kernel and compiler, but keep the other 32 bit software as it is installed?
[15:42] <ronr_laptop> Rudd-O: I'd say chroot the 32-bit and do a reinstall for 64 bit (from where you can use the chrooted 32 bit environment), debian used to have some good docs on that issue (dating back from the time a lot of heaviliy used software wasn't available for 64 bite yet)
[15:43] <Rudd-O> that is viable, ronr_laptop , thanks, I will map it out
[15:54] <Avenhawk> hi @ all
[15:54] <pag> hi Avenhawk :-)
[15:55] <bluelife> hey everybody
[15:55] <bluelife> can i ask smth about kde4 or should i go to that channel?
[15:56] <pag> bluelife, afaik you can ask, but #kubuntu-kde4 is probably more able to provide an answer ;)
[15:58] <bluelife> thanx pag,already there:)
[16:07] <DarkAudit> I installed apt-build, and *tried* to install the pan newsreader with sudo apt-build install pan. When it was finished compiling, apt instead downloaded and installed the binary from the regular Ubuntu repositories. It did the same thing even after I manually added my build directory to sources.list. I had to eventually install the built package manually. This morning Adept sees the precompiled pan as an upgrade, when it's the 
[16:13] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there! Is there a utility / script / whatever available that could give knetworkmanager (or maybe the eth port directly) a kick in the nuts whenever the wireless interface suddenly is no longer responding to pings? Im going crazy here with this problem where every 5 minutes, my wifi suddenly disconnects.. well, it does not disconnect, everything looks ok, I just loose connection with my wifi AP and only a reconnect can fix it..
[16:15] <sven_oostenbrink> Hi there! Is there a utility / script / whatever available that could give knetworkmanager (or maybe the eth port directly) a kick in the nuts whenever the wireless interface suddenly is no longer responding to pings? Im going crazy here with this problem where every 5 minutes, my wifi suddenly disconnects.. well, it does not disconnect, everything looks ok, I just loose connection with my wifi AP and only a reconnect can fix it..
[16:15] <Rudd-O> sven_oostenbrink: hmmm
[16:16] <Rudd-O> if you were using wpa_supplicant, you could run a cronjob every minute that runs a ping and if ping dosnt succeed, you could ifdown ifup the interface
[16:16] <Rudd-O> but since it's knetworkmanager...
[16:16] <Rudd-O> I mean in theory you could send it a dcop message, but cron runs in a separate context, with no concept of the dcop session that knetworkmanager is using
[16:19] <sven_oostenbrink> Rudd-O: maybe this could be a nice feat for (k)networkmanager?
[16:20] <DarkAudit> I moved the line deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main to the top of sources.list and adept still sees the precompiled binary of pan as an upgrade, even though it's the same version as the one I ran through apt-build
[16:33] <Avenhawk> i had a question i install kubuntu on ubuntu now i am working on KDE/kubuntu did i have now kubuntu and ubuntu or is this only ubuntu with an kubuntu UI ??
[16:36] <The_ManU_212> hi
[16:36] <pag> Avenhawk, kubuntu and ubuntu share same core system
[16:36] <The_ManU_212> what happened with the official servers?
[16:36] <The_ManU_212> W: Konnte http://de.packages.medibuntu.org/dists/hardy/non-free/binary-i386/Pack                                                                                                 ages.gz nicht holen  404 Not Found [IP: 87.98.242.10 80]
[16:36] <rickest> Avenhawk: All *buntus are essentially the same, it's just the top layer that changes beween U and K and if both are installed, you can even switch back and forth
[16:36] <pag> The_ManU_212, medibuntu are not official servers - they're probably just down atm
[16:37] <The_ManU_212> pag: ok and why?, is this bad for installing something?
[16:37] <Avenhawk> ah ok thanks for this info , hmm thats nice i think i loved kb more than ub because i liked KDE more =))
[16:39] <pag> The_ManU_212, why what? they're proably down because of problems with banwidh or servers - I don't know more details
[16:40] <The_ManU_212> pag: ah ok, do you think the use of medibuntu is good?
[16:40] <The_ManU_212> e.g. win32codecs
[16:41] <DarkAudit> I installed build-essential. I installed apt-build, and set it to athlon 64. The setup did NOT add the directory to my sources.list, even when it asked me if I wanted it to. When I did "sudo apt-build install pan", the package downloaded the necessary files to compile the package and started the compile. When it finished all that, it downloaded and installed the package from  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main anyway, as i
[16:41] <Githzerai> The_ManU_212: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring  then try again sudo apt-get update && install
[16:43] <The_ManU_212> Githzerai: why do i need now this keyring?
[16:43] <pag> The_ManU_212, depends on how you define 'good' - they might become handy in some situations, but on the other hand I've done wonderfully without them. it also depends on your juridiction; afaik downloading those codecs isn't legal in some countries (not sure though..)
[16:43] <Githzerai> The_ManU_212: to download key required for medibuntu repo.....
[16:44] <The_ManU_212> pag: ah ok
[16:44] <The_ManU_212> Githzerai: but it worked fine all the months since now without???
[16:44] <Githzerai> The_ManU_212: couldn't work fine without it....
[16:46] <The_ManU_212> Githzerai: but today its the first time taht i get this 404 error
[16:47] <The_ManU_212> Githzerai: i remember that i added some key via wget, isnt it the same?
[16:48] <pag> The_ManU_212, it should be the same...
[16:52] <Githzerai> The_ManU_212: add same key again
[16:52] <The_ManU_212> pag: there is a key in adept (this graphical tool) listed of 2006 for medibuntu but this medibuntu-keyring, isnt installed, and the only error i get is this temporary 404, but no with authentication.... why is this "double"?
[16:53] <The_ManU_212> Githzerai: look^
[16:53] <jussi01> I thought medibuntu was down...
[16:53] <DarkAudit> even with deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main in my sources.list, apt-build will complile fine, then go right ahead and download and install the precompiled binary anyway, totally defeating the point of using apt-build in the first place. Something has gone wrong with setting apt-build up. What is it?
[16:54] <rickest> jussi01: it was yesterday morning
[16:55] <pag> The_ManU_212, because there first was a normal way, but then somebody decided that copypasteing one command is too hard for new users and created a package (which still forces a new user to either copypaste or fiddle around adept...)
[16:56] <Becker_11> My laptop won't boot from a cd. It has done many times before. I think GRUB maybe getting in the way some how. How can I remove GRUB and restore my MBR pls??
[16:57] <DarkAudit> deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main is the same priority level as the rest of the repositories. Is that the problem here?
[16:58] <The_ManU_212> pag: so to add a key with adept and terminal is bad?, what to do, remove the manually added key and install the package?
[16:58] <pag> The_ManU_212, they both do _exactly_ the same thing
[16:59] <The_ManU_212> pag: so i dont need to install this package?
[17:00] <pag> The_ManU_212, it's of course up to you, but I personally think, that you won't get anything from installing the package
[17:00] <pag> The_ManU_212, if I were you, I'd check if the URL in sources.list is same as provided on medibuntu's site
[17:03] <The_ManU_212> pag ok
[17:06] <spiel_mit_feuer> ive been spending the last few days setting on linux to work best for me.. now that im just about finished, im ready to help anyone that may need it
[17:10] <EnMasse187> guys
[17:10] <EnMasse187> how do i check my router assigned ip?
[17:10] <EnMasse187> like the 192.168.1.100
[17:10] <EnMasse187> ip?
[17:10] <EnMasse187> how do i check that?
[17:10] <EnMasse187> in ubuntu?
[17:11] <ubunturos> EnMasse187: type 'ifconfig -a'  to find out that
[17:11] <ubunturos> EnMasse187: alternately, you could use KNetworkManager to find out that
[17:11] <isleshocky78> ﻿I upgraded my kubuntu 8.04 install to use kde4.1 (kde4.0.98). Now when I boot the computer I get a alert window saying "Cannot open theme file @@@ToBeReplaceByDesktopBase@@@". I then get the command line prompt to login. If I login and run startx then kde runs fine. Any idea on the error?
[17:11] <alanx> EnMasse187: sudo route
[17:11] <EnMasse187> yes
[17:11] <EnMasse187> working
[17:11] <genii> EnMasse187: ifconfig    will usually show you the configuration of the machine. If you need to see what it's using for default route the  route  command usually has that
[17:11] <EnMasse187> thank you :)
[17:12] <EnMasse187> hey guys
[17:12] <EnMasse187> where do i learn all these commands?
[17:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> alan, dont you mean root?
[17:12] <alanx> no
[17:12] <jussi01> isleshocky78: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[17:12] <isleshocky78> kk
[17:12] <isleshocky78> jussi01: Thanks
[17:13] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone know how to check how much space is left on a partition?
[17:13] <Ein> i am having problems running kde4 over ltsp on hardy,
[17:14] <Ein> has anyone tried this yet?
[17:14] <pag> spiel_mit_feuer, "df -h -x tmpfs -x devpts -x usbfs"
[17:14] <ubunturos> EnMasse187: you can learn few of them from http://linuxcommand.org
[17:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> which one pag?
[17:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> or do i type that full line?
[17:14] <pag> spiel_mit_feuer, that's one command
[17:15] <pag> spiel_mit_feuer, df -h also works, but the output is a bit uglier
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> seriously?
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> thats accurate?
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> umm wow
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> this full install of ubuntu with kde 3.5.9, and many apps and libs i added, still only uses 2.5g total on the 15gb / partition
[17:16] <spiel_mit_feuer> i knew 10gb would have been enough
[17:17] <grendal_prime> i got compiz installed and its working..but i want to play around with like the cube pager thing..I have it enabled but i cant figure out how to enable it.
[17:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> and why is my /home partition taking up 11?
[17:17] <grendal_prime> this advanced desktop settings control panel thang kinda blows.
[17:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> oh.. wait.. thats right.. 9gb of music
[17:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> vista would be taking up 15gb for the base install alone
[17:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> ... and people i know wonder why im using linux.. well thanks for the help
[17:19] <DarkAudit> spiel_mit_feuer: 9 gigs of music? small time :)
[17:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> i know.. its not much music.. only 1,000 songs, but its al i really listen to
[17:28] <tue> Hey, im looking for a program that does the following: I have a video file in some format (mpeg4, divx, whatever) and some subtitles. I want them burned to dvd in the standard dvd format (mpeg2?). I dont care about fancy menu graphics, etc., nor that its a kde specific program. Have any of you guys found a good non-crashing solution?
[17:29] <genii> !info devede
[17:31] <tue> genii: thanks :-) .
[17:31] <genii> tue: No problem
[17:32] <joe_> i need some help cuz everytime i try to open Sound Juicer CD Extractor it gives me this Sound Juicer could not find any CD-ROM drives to read but then again i do have a cd in my cd drive so i don't know what's the problem can someone please give me a hand to find out what the problem is?
[17:33] <genii> Why not use a native KDE app like K3B to rip with?
[17:33] <joe_> i never thought of that, thnx for the help
[17:34] <tue> joe_: iirc there is even an io slave you can use for extracting mp3 files from a cd (but i might remember wrongly...)
[17:34] <joe_> ok
[17:35] <tue> something like mp3:/media/cdrom (OR SOMETHING!) its properly not ported to kde4 yet, but its mighty cool :-)
[17:35] <joe_> cuz i'm try'n to put songs onto my zen device
[17:36] <joe_> kool
[17:36] <joe_> thnx
[17:38] <joe_> great now i have another problem
[17:38] <joe_> hope someone can help me out???
[17:38] <joe_> i am tried to open Adept Installer but it give's me an error
[17:39] <joe_> ????
[17:39] <Klanticus> hi... where may I find help with problems using kubuntu 8.10?
[17:39] <Githzerai> joe_: what error ?
[17:39] <joe_> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[17:39] <joe_> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[17:40] <Githzerai> joe_: u have two package managers running. exit one
[17:40] <tue> joe_: eh... try to close everything adept-ish you have open. might be an automatic update, then it should stop soon....
[17:40] <joe_> got it
[17:40] <jussi01> :)
[17:40] <joe_> thnx again for the help
[17:40] <tue> otherwise run ps -e and see if there is some adept or apt'ish program running, then issue a killall...
[17:40] <joe_> :)
[17:41] <Klanticus> any kubuntu dev here?
[17:42] <rickest> Klanticus: just ask your question
[17:43] <joe_> so how can i make my graphics card do 3D acelerition instead of 2D acelerition?
[17:43] <Klanticus> rickest: I'm using kubuntu 8.10 alpha1, and just got a problem after an update... kdm isn't starting anymore
[17:43] <tue> joe_: what kind of card?
[17:43] <tue> joe_: you mean like compiz?
[17:43] <joe_> it's nvidia ntn2 model 64/model 64pro
[17:44] <Klanticus> rickest: I don't know if this is the right place to talk about an alpha version
[17:44] <joe_> ntn*
[17:44] <joe_> tnt2*
[17:44] <genii> Klanticus: #ubuntu+1 for Ibex
[17:44] <Klanticus> genii: thanks
[17:44] <emons> hi guys... installed nvidia last drivers after the first reboot resolution is 640x480 and i can't set it back to 1440x900 any idea? im a newbie dunno much about terminals and commands... anyone can help?
[17:44] <tue> okay... well, i got an ati x1300, som im not much help :-) . Since its nividia, you might have a chance. If i was you, i would try to search google...
[17:46] <emons> i did mate
[17:46] <joe_> how to i put avi to dvd useing ubuntu?
[17:46] <tue> joe_: the only good advice i can give: be carefull about monkeying to much around in xorg.conf . (k)ubuntu does a really good job, and if you got some bad settings there it can cause problems later on...
[17:46] <joe_> ok, kool, got it
[17:46] <emons> and i found that if u dont delete a certain file before to install the new drivers linux is gonna reboot with its generic bla bla driver4s and is gonna screw it
[17:47] <emons> thatz what happened, now how do i get out of it?
[17:51] <joe_> how can i rip mp3?
[17:51] <genii> joe_: K3B but you need the mp3 codecs as well.
[17:51] <makdaknife> joe_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[17:52] <joe_> so that i can put then onto my zen portible device?
[17:52] <genii> !medibuntu
[17:52] <joe_> i did try to use k3b but it wouldn't work
[17:52] <joe_> but i'll try again if u want me to
[17:53] <makdaknife> joe_: see the medibuntu link above
[17:53] <makdaknife> joe_: also the CDRipping link
[17:53] <joe_> yeah
[17:59] <joe_> great, K3B Give's me an error while i'm try'n to rip my cd here
[17:59] <joe_> the error is command failed
[18:00] <jussi01> which command?
[18:00] <joe_> i'm try'n to rip a cd use'n K3B and it wont let me
[18:01] <joe_> so now i'm gett'n pissed off about it cuz i do like to use ubuntu but @ the same time i'm a newbie when it comes to linux but i'm gonna learn linux if it kill's me
[18:01] <genii> joe_: Did you add the medibuntu repositories, then install mp3 codecs? If not then k3b won't know yet about mp3 formats
[18:02] <joe_> i don't know how
[18:03] <ilkin> hi everyone
[18:03] <jussi01> hrm, shouldnt installing kubuntu-restricted-extras fix that?
[18:03] <joe_> remember i don't know much when it come's to linux
[18:04] <joe_> i know very little
[18:04] <joe_> but still learning to get the hang of linux
[18:04] <ilkin> is there defragmentator program for Kubuntu?
[18:04] <jussi01> joe_: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:04] <genii> joe_: You need to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu      and then after adding medibuntu to your system, install package named libk3b2-extracodecs
[18:04] <jussi01> !defrag | ilkin
[18:05] <joe_> got it thnx
[18:05] <genii> ilkin: Linux filesystem automatically optimizes itself so theres no need for something like defrag
[18:05] <ilkin> and what about temp file cleaner or registry cleaner like ones for XP
[18:05] <ilkin> ?
[18:06] <genii> ilkin: No registry in Linux
[18:06] <genii> (At least not KDE, Gnome has something like it)
[18:07] <jussi01> sudo apt-get clean    cleans your package cache
[18:07] <ilkin> that is, after installing and deinstalling programs system remains clean?
[18:07] <sbattey> apachelogger: ping
[18:07] <jussi01> ilkin: yes, apart from the cache of packages
[18:08] <ilkin> sudo apt-get clean --will this command damage funtionality of packages?
[18:09] <patxi> arrasti on, buenas tardes, good afternoon
[18:09] <genii> ilkin: No, it only cleans out the cached files from which the application was installed from
[18:09] <joe_> where can i find libk3d2-extracodecs?
[18:09] <jussi01> !medibuntu | joe_
[18:10] <joe_> but where i don't even kow where to look i did install medibuntu into my system but i don't know wehre to get the codes
[18:10] <jussi01> joe_: did you follow the instructyions on the medibuntu site?
[18:10] <joe_> for the other part that i will need to rip cd's onto my system
[18:11] <joe_> yes
[18:11] <jussi01> joe_: ok, you should now find that package in adept
[18:11] <joe_> ok i look for
[18:11] <genii> joe_: I already gave you the exact page with instructions to add medibuntu to the list of your possible packages. So if you did this, the package you need can be found in Add/Remove now
[18:11] <joe_> ok i'm srry
[18:11] <genii> (Adept = Add/Remove)
[18:13] <Nyad> Hi. how do I view my browsing history with Konquerer
[18:13] <Nyad> ?
[18:13] <Nece228> Nyad: press f9 ;)
[18:13] <Nece228> Nyad: and click on that clock icon in left side of screen
[18:13] <Nyad> thanks
[18:14] <Nece228> Nyad: You are welcome
[18:15] <joe_> i'm look but still don't find anyth'n that would help me out, i'm srry that i'm problem being a pain in the ass but i really do thnx you ppl for help'n me out
[18:17] <genii> joe_: libk3b2-extracodecs
[18:18] <joe_> i did type that in and nothing came up
[18:18] <genii> Lets k3b know about mp3 files and other ones as well like wmv
[18:18] <joe_> my zen can only handle mp3 song's
[18:19] <genii> joe_: Did you follow the page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu to add it to your repository list?
[18:19] <joe_> i don't know any really good/great p2p programs for linux
[18:19] <joe_> yes i did
[18:20] <joe_> but i'll do it again if u want me to
[18:20] <Nece228> Joe_ amule? ktorrent? transmmision?
[18:20] <joe_> kool, thnx
[18:20] <joe_> again
[18:20] <joe_> :)
[18:20] <Nece228> Joe_ you are welcome
[18:21] <genii> joe_: If they are added properly thats fine. Close Add/Remove then try from in Konsole:     sudo apt-get update            then: apt-cache search libk3b2-extracodecs    to see if it shows as a package possible to install
[18:22] <joe_> show i also do "Then, add the GPG Key: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update" As well?
[18:22] <joe_> ok
[18:23] <genii> joe_: That step you just asked about should be done, yes
[18:23] <joe_> no that's why i asked if i should do that one as well
[18:23] <joe_> like i said i don't know linux very well but i'm gonna learn if it does kill me one way or another
[18:24] <genii> joe_: If you don't do the GPG key add, it won't be able to auto install anything from there
[18:24] <joe_> the one that i did ask about i'm do'n it now
[18:25] <joe_> ok i'm do'n that one rite now
[18:25] <joe_> and it's done
[18:25] <genii> joe_: OK, so try now: apt-cache search libk3b2-extracodecs                                   to see if it shows up
[18:26] <joe_> but it did fail on Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gzand  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:26] <genii> joe_: You are using gutsy? Or Hardy?
[18:27] <joe_> ubuntu 7.10
[18:27] <genii> OK Gutsy then.
[18:27] <joe_> i think so
[18:27] <genii> joe_: Please use pastebin to show us the contents of the file:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:27] <genii> !pastebin
[18:29] <joe_> why do u wanna know the contents of the file /ect/apt/sources.list?
[18:29]  * genii grabs another coffee
[18:30] <genii> joe_: So that we can make sure the entries there are properly formed and that are for the correct version for your box
[18:30] <joe_> ok and it is gutsy
[18:31] <genii> I suspect a missing "deb" or "deb-src" type of error in front of the url but need to check the file to make sure
[18:31] <joe_> here i'll post the sources.list
[18:32] <joe_> srry about that i didn't know that it was gonna do that i'm srry
[18:32] <joe_> but what did u want to know about sources.list?
[18:33] <joe_> genii: what did u want to know about my sources.list?
[18:34] <bobJR> ive got a good  question how do you install beryl on kubuntu 8.04 i went to the install page on beryl project page under ubuntu its not there
[18:34] <genii> joe_: To reiterate "So that we can make sure the entries there are properly formed and that are for the correct version for your box" and also I suspect a missing "deb" or "deb-src" type of error in front of the url but need to check the file to make sure
[18:34] <admin_> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with a cd being recognized/mounted. I have a commercial music cd (not burned by me or whatever), but I put it in here, and nothing happens. I tried to do the same thing with a cdrw I have, and everything works perfectly. Is there some kinda special bypass I need for loading a music cd?
[18:35] <genii> Music cds just get played, not mounted
[18:35] <matthewell> hi
[18:35] <macnoob> join #ubuntu-nl
[18:36] <admin_> genii: well whatever, nothing works with it
[18:36] <genii> bobJR: Beryl no longer exists, was merged back into Compiz. So visit #compiz-fusion channel for assistance on that
[18:36] <joe_>  genii: they r both in there i see them like everywhere in the sources.list
[18:36] <bobJR> thanks
[18:37] <genii> joe_: And at the beginning of the medibuntu lines is word    deb    ?
[18:37] <bobo> hey everyone hows yalls day going so far
[18:37] <joe_> yes deb is there
[18:40] <genii> joe_: so: deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free                 and: deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free          is correct there?
[18:40] <joe_> and medibuntu.list is in /ect/apt/sources.list.d
[18:40] <bobo> whats the command to upgrade to kde4
[18:41] <genii> Ah, yes I forgot medibuntu now installs sub-files instead of additions to original sources.list
[18:42] <Githzerai> bobo: there is no upgrade they coexist side by side ;) check here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1
[18:44] <joe_> the deb http://packages.deditbuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free and deb-src http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free is in medibuntu.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:45] <bobo> ok thanks for the info
[18:46] <joe_> bobo: why do u care about the info???
[18:46] <bobo> i meant for the kde4 info
[18:46] <joe_> o k
[18:47] <joe_>  genii can u stll help me out or what?
[18:47] <bbeck> I just did an apt-get update/grade which installed a new kernel.  Now my wireless and sound doesn't work.  Has anyone else noticed this problem?
[18:48] <genii> joe_: Trying to see if the error you're getting is some problem of following the instructions on the medibuntu site or possibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/179769 which I'm reading up on
[18:49] <rdw> hi
[18:50] <rdw> i got a problem. my friggin kubuntu wanted to update some kde 4.1 packages. so i did it, but it removed gdm and it didnt place /etc/kdm files where it was supposed to
[18:50] <rdw> so i used older version's /etc/kdm files. but it still wont work
[18:50] <Githzerai> rdw: #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[18:50] <genii> rdw: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[18:51] <rdw> doh. just read it. i remember
[18:51] <rdw> sorry
[18:51] <rdw> forgot
[18:52] <apachelogger> sbattey: pong
[18:52] <bobo> sure does take a while to install kde4
[18:53] <genii> bobo: Well, it's quite a few hundreds of megabytes
[18:54] <bobo> yeah well i normally download faster than i am now
[18:56] <sbattey> apachelogger: there is a conflict with the rc1 packages
[18:56] <bobo> only downloading at about 100kb/s normally download at close to 350kb/s
[18:58] <sparr> how can i save my (ALSA) volume levels so they restore when i reboot?
[19:02] <andare>  genii what package did u want for me to get again for medibuntu???
[19:03] <andare>  genii: it's me joe
[19:03] <genii> andare: libk3b2-extracodecs
[19:04] <CrocoJet> hi for all
[19:04] <andare>  genii: cuz i'm @ http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/free/k/k3b
[19:04] <ahmos> hi, is there any reason that kubuntu 8.04 with kde 3.5.9 doesn't have a splash screen
[19:05] <CrocoJet> exist some browser for internet that use qt3 or qt4 ?
[19:05] <CrocoJet> (libs)
[19:05] <CrocoJet> really is terrible to use forefox with gtk look
[19:05] <CrocoJet> forefox = firefox
[19:09] <andare>  genii: are you still there?
[19:10] <genii> andare: Yup
[19:11] <andare>  genii when i'm done installing the package what else is there to do to make sure that i can rip cd's to my computer useing ubuntu???
[19:12] <genii> andare: K3B should now be able to rip audio CD to mp3, so testing that is not a bad idea
[19:12] <genii> !info gtk-qt-engine CrocoJet
[19:12] <genii> !info gtk-qt-engine | CrocoJet
[19:12] <andare>  genii: ok i'm gonna give it a shot rite now then i'll let u know what's go'n on
[19:13] <genii> CrocoJet: That package can make GTK apps follow whatever QT theme you use and they look a bit less painful
[19:15] <CrocoJet> genii: thanks information
[19:15] <genii> np
[19:15] <andare>  genii:  GGGGRRR!!! it still isn't work'n i don't know what the fuck i'm do'n wrong and now i'm really start'n to get pissed off not @ u but @ my computer
[19:16] <Pici> andare: Please watch the language in here.
[19:17] <andare>  pici: i'm srry but my computer is really start'n to piss me off big time
[19:19] <tdn> How do I create a script that automatically runs when a USB storage device is inserted? I have read http://dventurin.wordpress.com/2007/04/01/udev-action-add-remove/, but it is not very explanatory.
[19:19] <andare>  should i reinstall ubuntu and maybe that will hopefully fix my problem that i do with my computer cuz i would like to rip cd's to my computer and i know that it can work???
[19:20] <wesley__> how do i switch to kdm-kde4 ?
[19:20] <genii> andare: The libk3b2-extracodecs will let k3b play mp3 but to encode to mp3 I think another thing may be needed, like liblame0
[19:21] <genii> wesley__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm                      if you currently use kdm. If gdm then substitute that in the command. Choose the login manager from there
[19:21] <andare>  so then what do i need make sure that i can rip cd's to my computer and make sure that it does work with no problems???
[19:21] <Lichte> Is there a way to keep firefox from installing 85 gnome apps when I try to install it???
[19:22] <andare>  i'm gonna remind everyone that my computer was make for windows 2000 and that i'm a newbie when it comes to linux
[19:22] <genii> andare: Try the package i just suggested eg: liblame0
[19:23] <andare>  genii: ok i'll give it a shot
[19:24] <Lichte> ah....aptitude -R
[19:25] <Lichte> That's much better  :)
[19:26] <andare>  genii: where can i find liblame0 again?
[19:27] <genii> andare: Try to install it from Add/Remove (Adept) first
[19:27] <daemon3_opera> It's really annoying, no matter what taskbar I use (compiz v. kwin), I get every window on the system...no matter what window.
[19:27] <andare>  genii: i did but noth'n came up when i typed in liblame0
[19:27] <daemon3_opera> ...rather, no matter what desktop.
[19:29] <enrry> hi
[19:29] <enrry> i have just had a bad trouble :(
[19:30] <andare>  genii: i think i'll just reinstall ubuntu and then try to rip a cd to my computer once again and if it doesn't work then i'll install a different linux os and not ubuntu, ok?
[19:30] <enrry> when updating kernel, it didn't show dialog window asking what to do with menu.lst file
[19:30] <genii> andare: Make sure you have "proprietary software" checked off at top right. Also in "Edit Software Sources" check off all boxes in tab Kubuntu Software
[19:30] <trappist> enrry: that's usually automatic
[19:30] <daemon3_opera> enrry: You shouldn't get a message like that.
[19:31] <enrry> so, i saw uptade was blocked, I made it show details
[19:31] <daemon3_opera> I never do.
[19:31] <enrry> yes if you edit it
[19:31] <jfr> hi! someone has installed kde 4.1 RC1 without dependenci problems?
[19:31] <enrry> :)
[19:31] <DarkAudit> why, after properly installing apt-build through synaptic or adept, would apt then decide to download a precompiled binary when it just completed compiling the same package for the same architecture?
[19:32] <genii> andare: Since mp3 is a restricted, proprietary format you will have similar issues using it with whatever linux you try since it is anathema to the open source concept of linux.
[19:32] <enrry> from details view it ewas not possible to choose any entry, so I needed reboot and updating by apt-get update
[19:33] <andare>  genii: ok and how can i do what u r ask'n me to do?
[19:33] <enrry> but I could have very big problem if kernel went corrupted
[19:33] <andare>  genii: i have to remind everyone still that i'm a newbie when it comes to linux
[19:33] <enrry> since update was blocking while updating kernel
[19:34] <genii> andare: The instructions I gave of :Make sure you have "proprietary software" checked off at top right. Also in "Edit Software Sources" check off all boxes in tab Kubuntu Software          Are to be done in Add/Remove programs, which the Adept package manager
[19:34] <White_Pelican> can I install a deb file that says it's for kubuntu 7.04 into hardy?
[19:34] <andare>  genii: ok do'n it rite now
[19:35] <andare>  genii: done, now what?
[19:35] <genii> andare: Cole and repopen Add/Remove    then see if searching for Lame or lame     produces any results
[19:35] <genii> Bah touchpad
[19:36] <genii> Close and reopen
[19:36] <genii> White_Pelican: You can't find the package you require in Hardy ?
[19:37] <White_Pelican> that is correct genii
[19:37] <daemon3_opera> Anyone having problems with the taskbar with compiz...yes, I'm event talking about taskbar compiz.
[19:37] <andare>  genii: ok and i did type in search lame but noth'n came up
[19:38] <White_Pelican> it's skype
[19:38] <genii> White_Pelican: Not recommended to install deb files from other distributions. But if you want to try anyhow, use: sudo dpkg -i debfilename.deb
[19:38] <mefisto__> I think there is a skype for hardy
[19:38] <White_Pelican> says it's for ubuntu
[19:39] <White_Pelican> if that is the case mefisto__ then perhaps I need to add something to sources.list
[19:40] <White_Pelican> I thought I had all that was needed in sources.lst
[19:40] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[19:41] <genii> andare: OK so close Adept and try from Konsole in this case with: sudo apt-get install liblame0
[19:41] <genii> Bah. The guy keeps leaving
[19:42] <daemon3_opera> genii: That's so you can't trak him. :
[19:42] <daemon3_opera> :)
[19:45] <genii> daemon3_opera: Not sure why he keeps doing that but makes it difficult to assist properly
[19:50] <wesley> !adeptfix
[19:55] <Becker_11> I think there is a problem with my cdrom drive mounting the filesystem. how do I check if its mounted properly and acessable?
[19:56] <meistah> hallo
[19:57] <meistah> niemand da??
[19:58] <genii> Becker_11: the command:  mount                should show it usually mounted at /media/cdrom with filesystem of iso9660 or udf
[19:59] <Becker_11> genii thx I did that and it's not listed
[20:00] <White_Pelican> mefisto__, thatnks ofr the link but I'm a little confused
[20:00] <genii> Becker_11: Does /dev/cdrom         exist?
[20:00] <Becker_11> genii I did it just now when you mentioned it ... it shows my 3 drive partitions correctly and their filesystems ext2/ext3 and reiserfs but not the cdrom or iso9660
[20:01] <Becker_11> genii I'm a bit new to this .... how do I check at the terminal
[20:01] <genii> Becker_11: ls -ld /dev/cd*
[20:01] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: did you add the repos like it said?
[20:02] <White_Pelican> do I add what's in the list to the main source.list?
[20:02] <genii> Becker_11: It should show something like: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-07-15 11:51 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[20:02] <White_Pelican> that's part of the confusion
[20:02] <White_Pelican> it created a folder in apt
[20:02] <Becker_11> genii cannot access /dev/cdrom no such file or directory
[20:02] <jackcy> join #kubuntu-kde4
[20:03] <Becker_11> genii tried it with sudo same message
[20:03] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: copy/paste 2 lines into konsole, the hardy heron line, and the GPG key line
[20:03] <genii> Becker_11: Does /dev/scd0   exist?
[20:04] <White_Pelican> ok already did the hardy heron l right now
[20:04] <Becker_11> genii no
[20:04] <genii> Becker_11: Then the system is not finding something it considers to be a cdrom
[20:05] <genii> a cdrom drive
[20:05] <Becker_11> genii oh btw it's kubuntu 8.04 kde 4
[20:06] <genii> Becker_11: Is it some external cd drive or an internal one?
[20:06] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: do the "add GPG key" line, then you can sudo apt-get install skype
[20:06] <White_Pelican> I'm getting an error message on the add gpg line
[20:07] <White_Pelican> hang on and I will do a pastebin
[20:07] <Becker_11> genii internal laptop
[20:07] <White_Pelican> mefisto__, http://pastebin.com/m4688bcfa
[20:08] <White_Pelican> is all that normal and should I say yes?
[20:08] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: ignore the error and say Y to install medibuntu-keyring
[20:08] <White_Pelican> ty :)
[20:09] <genii> Becker_11: My first suspicion is that the cd drive has has a hardware failure
[20:10] <Becker_11> genii ok ...
[20:10] <genii> Becker_11: When you look in the bios of your laptop, does it show the cd drive is being recognised there?
[20:10] <Becker_11> genii many thanks for your time I must go kid is sick and crying thankyou
[20:10] <bobo> can i use awn with kubuntu
[20:10] <White_Pelican> mefisto__, W: Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/hardy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  510 Not Extended [IP: 87.98.242.110 80]
[20:11] <kkathman> bobo try cairo-dock I think you'll be happier with that than AWN :)
[20:12] <bobo> how do i get it
[20:12] <bobo> repos
[20:12] <bobo> adept
[20:12] <ilkin> hi again
[20:12] <bobo> micah
[20:12] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: try it again. seems like trouble connecting to the server
[20:13] <ilkin> is there any soft for viewing windows help files .chm?
[20:13] <White_Pelican> so retry the command later?
[20:15] <trappist> ilkin: kchmviewer
[20:16] <trappist> also chmsee and xchm
[20:16] <ilkin> thank you
[20:17] <White_Pelican> I retried the command and it looks like it went through, so now apt-get install skype?
[20:18] <bobo> does cairo-dock have a launcher feature to it
[20:19] <White_Pelican> ok skype is coming in
[20:19] <White_Pelican> thanks for your help
[20:19] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: yes
[20:20] <White_Pelican> :)
[20:26] <White_Pelican> during the last update, it wanted to install kde 4.1 rc1, what's your recommendation, mefisto__ ?
[20:27] <mefisto__> White_Pelican: I don't use kde4, so don't really know
[20:28] <White_Pelican> ok fair enough
[20:28] <White_Pelican> my base system is kde 3 though
[20:28] <White_Pelican> I'm simply testing out kde 4 and playing certain kde4 games
[20:31] <White_Pelican> as far a I'm concerned (as well as kde), it's just a testing branch, not ready for prime time as I am fond of putting it
[20:34]  * genii sips
[20:41] <mefisto__> I'm installing kde4.1 now
[20:53] <voyager_> sorry one question...   in kubuntu-es no people
[20:53] <voyager_> why?
[20:53] <genii> voyager_: Probably because most people find assistance in English from this channel instead
[20:55] <voyager_> ok thanks
[20:59] <voyager_> ok, this is my dude for kubuntu-es:   i'cant install s5 (openoffice presentation, slidy...)  i' need make a presentation...  others program please...    sorry my horrible english
[21:06] <joshual> hey folks anyone have a screenshot of kde 4.1 RC1 ?
[21:07] <genii> voyager_: Perhaps pyslide    Although I have not used it and so cannot offer any opinion or assistance on it
[21:07] <voyager_> ok thanks
[21:08] <engineer> are kde4.1 packages available?
[21:08] <joshual> i think so
[21:08] <genii> engineer: Perhaps ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[21:08] <engineer> ye deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[21:09] <voyager_> i'can running pyslide in others machines whithout kubuntu or python???
[21:15] <PHANT0Ma> hello, can anybody give /boot dir from kubuntu 8.04?
[21:21] <jpetso> wah, panic. kdepimlibs5 is already updated to rc1, but kmail and libkdepim4-kde4 are not
[21:28] <bobo> god i love this os its awesome
[21:28] <rickest> hear, hear!
[21:29] <enrry> goodnight!
[21:30] <moshe> hi, i have ~/.ssh/id_rsa private key which is password protected, so ssh in console asks me for the password of the key every time before the password of remove user. the problem is that in GUI (ex. kio in konqueror) it also thinks that the password entered is for the key and not for remote user. is there a way to disable checking for private key password in gui? thanks
[21:31] <moshe> *remove=remote
[21:32] <opression> hey..
[21:33] <opression> any online for help?
[21:33] <engineer> !ask
[21:33] <engineer> !anyone
[21:33] <bob3213243_>  what is a video chat program that will work with ichat?
[21:33] <moshe> engineer: like me right? :P still no one answers :(
[21:33] <opression> how to install kubuntu, i have 800mhz 256 ram.. 10gb hdd, my old comp.. wubi say.. : you need 256mb memory
[21:34] <engineer> put the cd one
[21:34] <engineer> and install it
[21:35] <engineer> on*
[21:35] <engineer> no moshe
[21:35] <opression> i can't
[21:35] <opression> i'm from bosnia, and don't known supper english
[21:35] <engineer> moshe if you get no answer, either no one knows or no one cares
[21:35] <opression> can't open wubi
[21:35] <opression> wubi say : you need at least 256mb of memory to run the installer
[21:35] <opression> :S
[21:35] <moshe> :-\
[21:36] <opression> i'm have 256 memory :-) Lhol
[21:36] <engineer> hmm
[21:36] <genii> Probably your onboard video card is chewing up the motherboard ram and leaving you with less than 256 available
[21:36] <opression> look :)
[21:37] <engineer> ye, some system reserved ram
[21:37] <Babuto> hi, i can't connect internet with ethernet. Is there anyone to help ?
[21:37] <engineer> Babuto sudo dhclient
[21:38] <engineer> and your problem description is rather poor
[21:38] <engineer> no queries ffs
[21:38] <engineer> damn frenchies
[21:39] <opression> my problem
[21:39] <opression> look : http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4708/14331690ck3.jpg
[21:39] <Babuto> sorry
[21:39] <mazinga> hi boy, i have problem for DVD original and Kaffeine...
[21:40] <engineer> opression have you tried using the live cd?
[21:40] <engineer> and installing it from kubuntu
[21:40] <opression> i'm use live cd.. :S
[21:40] <engineer> ye but from windows
[21:41] <opression> ya..
[21:41] <engineer> use it from linux
[21:41] <opression> don't have installed linux
[21:41] <engineer> Babuto so is your card down
[21:41] <engineer> opression run the live cd after your computer boots
[21:42] <opression> in bios?
[21:42] <opression> i'm n00b mean.. help me
[21:42] <Babuto> no it works well on windows with the same connection
[21:42] <Babuto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27557/
[21:42] <engineer> the cd should boot
[21:42] <engineer> not the hard disk
[21:42] <engineer> change the boot sequence if needed
[21:43] <engineer> Babuto ping www.google.com
[21:43] <engineer> tell me the output of that
[21:43] <Babuto> it works
[21:43] <engineer> you're connected then
[21:44] <Babuto> but it just doesn't work
[21:45] <engineer> what doesn't work
[21:45] <Babuto> i can't browse
[21:46] <engineer> tried different browsers
[21:46] <genii> dns
[21:46] <Babuto> i tried
[21:46] <engineer> check if you have proxies set
[21:46] <opression> engineer, don't have free space on HDD i have only 2gb.. ?? it's error? :S
[21:46] <engineer> opression windows is installed i suppose
[21:47] <engineer> and occupying some space
[21:47] <awkward_moment> Is anyone having a problem with the taskbar in compiz?
[21:47] <engineer> no
[21:47] <jussi01> !tab
[21:47] <jussi01> crap, wrong window... oh well
[21:47] <genii> awkward_moment: Ask in #compiz-fusion please
[21:47] <engineer> wtf
[21:50] <DarkAudit> I tried again, this time through synaptic. Apt-build is building packages, then downloading and installing the package from the regular ubuntu repositories. There is NO local repository line in sources.list, even after dpkg asks me if I want to put the line there. There *is* the line in sources.list.save, but does that mean anything? I had to have missed something setting apt-build up in Hardy, but WHAT?
[21:53] <josa> where can i change login and logoff sounds
[21:54] <mefisto__> josa: systemsettings > notifications
[21:55] <josa> ah.. missed the "source" pull down menu
[21:56] <josa> the next question would be how to make the sounds work :/. everything except system sounds work
[22:03] <Babuto> engineer ?
[22:04] <engineer> yeah?
[22:04] <Babuto> i can do an apt-get install x but not apt-get update. That stucks on [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] ...
[22:04] <Babuto> and i don't have any proxy set
[22:04] <genii> Repo timing out
[22:04] <engineer> choose a different rep
[22:05] <Babuto> but the repo i have are working
[22:06] <Babuto> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mainly
[22:06] <Babuto> i can even ping it
[22:07] <Babuto> but i can't browse (firefox or konqueror)
[22:07] <[GuS]> guys,... i've download the Qt package to re-build the packge since i need its phonon lib enabled on compilation... but it seems that needs gst headers, even when i install it, still fails to compile it. Any solution? any tip?¿
[22:07] <Babuto> and i can't browse with lynx neither
[22:07] <engineer> Babuto do the browsers have proxies set?
[22:07] <Babuto> no
[22:08] <The_Zodiac> hola
[22:09] <Nece228> ahoy!
[22:09] <Babuto> you don't have any other idea ?
[22:09] <The_Zodiac> spangish???
[22:09] <The_Zodiac> spanglish
[22:09] <The_Zodiac> ???
[22:10] <genii> !es | The_Zodiac
[22:11] <The_Zodiac> ok bye
[22:14] <Babuto> thanks anyway for the help
[22:17] <bob3213243_>  ugh, I am having no luck getting video chat setup with OSX. Not sure what to do.
[22:18] <ahmed> i downloaded realplayer1.bin how to install it???
[22:19] <partha_> ahmed: why do you need realplayer? You can use mplayer to view realplayer files.
[22:20] <ahmed> partha_: i want to listen to radio streaming its a site which have radio its ot play i thought it need real player
[22:22] <engineer> !bin
[22:22] <engineer> ahmed ./file.bin
[22:22] <DarkAudit> there's and apt-build file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, should it be names apt-build.list like the other files in that directory are?
[22:23] <ahmed> engineer: i didnt get what u said
[22:25] <genii> ahmed: Follow instruction posted by the user called TheMacOne here: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-the-realplayer-multimedia-player His post is about two thirds of the way down the page
[22:26] <ahmed> genii: thanks iĺl try
[22:32] <partha_> ahmed: hi. But I had to logout. Did you ask me something?
[22:34] <ahmed>  partha_: i want to listen to radio streaming its a site which have radio its ot play i thought it need real player
[22:35] <partha_> You might try that with mplayer or kaffeine. If it has a browser based interface, then mozilla mplayer plugin might work.
[22:35] <partha_> ahmed: I had problems before installing the real player binaries..
[22:36] <ahmed> u think its not the solution??
[22:36] <partha_> ahmed: you mean mplayer?
[22:37] <ahmed> partha_: i mean u think that if i install realplayer it will not make the radio work
[22:38] <partha_> ahmed: If you manage to install real player it should work. I had trouble installing real player. Then again that might be for 64 bit.
[22:38] <admin_> hey guys, I have a problem with apt with a dependency, happened before and someone explained what to do quickly , possibly with --force, I don't remmber. Here's the pastebin of it http://kubuntu.pastebin.org/51666
[22:39] <ahmed> partha_; i already have movie player and rhythum music player installed
[22:40] <partha_> ahmed: do you have mozilla-mplayer package installed?
[22:40] <ahmed> partha_:dont know let me check?
[22:42] <ahmed> partha_: it doesnt appears with extentions and addons of firwfox
[22:42] <partha_> can you try typing about:plugins in firefox address bar?
[22:43] <partha_> admin_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite <package_location>
[22:44] <admin_> partha_: what would package location be
[22:44] <ahmed> partha_: do u mean this Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
[22:44] <partha_> in your case /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb
[22:44] <partha_> admin_: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.0.98-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb
[22:45] <partha_> admin_: then do apt-get upgrade again
[22:45] <admin_> thanks partha_ , it worked :)
[22:45] <partha_> you are welcome
[22:45] <kdavid> hello I have Kubuntu and I am trying to load pictures fron either usb or from my camera but nothing seems to detect anything what can I do?
[22:45] <partha_> admin_: you are welcome
[22:45] <admin_> kdavid: try to use gtkam as root, I have a similar problem
[22:46] <ahmed> partha_: do u mean this Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem)
[22:46] <kdavid> how do I use gtkam as root?
[22:46] <admin_> kdavid: after you install it, run in a terminal:  sudo gtkam
[22:46] <partha_> ahmed: no. You should see something like  "Realplayer 9 mplayerplug-in"
[22:47] <kdavid> ok I'll try it
[22:47] <ahmed> partha_:Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible (compatible; Totem)
[22:48]  * genii is tempted to rant about using sudo for graphical apps but refrains
[22:48] <partha_> Can you open up a konsole and type in sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[22:50] <ahmed> partha_: ok
[22:54] <vipex> yay!" Anyone knows can i buy new graphic card  to my laptop:O?
[22:54] <kdavid> lolol I loaded it but it seems to freeze
[22:54] <trappist> vipex: very unlikely.  it's probably built into the motherboard.
[22:54] <engineer> you can't
[22:55] <genii> vipex: There are some external USB video cards but I wouldn't really recommend one
[22:55] <vipex> Umm but if i drive it from cd.?
[22:56] <kdavid> admin I loaded it but it seems to freeze
[22:56] <Walzmyn> !component
[22:56] <Walzmyn> !module
[22:56]  * Walzmyn frowns
[22:57] <Babuto> hi, is there someone to help ? I have problem with my internet connection (ethernet). I can ping but i can't do anything else
[22:57] <Walzmyn> oh, no wonder the bot wasn't helpful, i'm on the wrong tab :)
[22:57] <engineer> ...
[23:00] <kdavid> aanyone else having digital camera troubles?
[23:00] <kdavid> camera
[23:00] <MementoMori> hi
[23:00] <kdavid> digital camera
[23:01] <MementoMori>  which package has the documentation for posix/kernel API ?
[23:01] <kdavid> usb
[23:01] <MementoMori> i searched for manpages with aptitude but i found nothing relevant
[23:01] <MementoMori> !manpages
[23:01] <MementoMori> !manpage
[23:02] <kdavid> Kubuntu does'nt seem to recognize usb connections
[23:02] <MementoMori> !documentation
[23:02] <jussi01> !repeat | kdavid
[23:02] <genii> Babuto: Get from http://www.robtex.com/dns/tiscali.fr.html the IPs for your ISP's nameservers and then put these IP numbers into the file /etc/resolv.conf   in a way like: nameserver 213.36.80.2                for instance
[23:02] <jussi01> !man | MementoMori
[23:03] <MementoMori> jussi01: my problem is i miss the manpages i need
[23:03] <jussi01> MementoMori: is there something in /usr/share/doc ?
[23:03] <MementoMori> jussi01: and i dont know which package provide them
[23:04] <josa> http://www.geocities.com/smcameron/redhat_doc_rant.html :)
[23:04] <MementoMori> jussi01: it seems like i miss all chap 3
[23:05] <MementoMori> kdavid: which kind of usb device?
[23:06] <DarkAudit> apt-build install package is supposed to install the package it *just built*, correct?
[23:07] <ahmed> partha_: i installed it and the radio worked thanks man
[23:08] <Babuto> hi, is there someone to help ? I have problem with my internet connection (ethernet). I can ping but i can't do anything else
[23:08] <genii> Babuto: Geez. I just gave you the answer you needed.
[23:10] <Babuto> sorry genii i hadn't seen it
[23:10] <genii> Babuto: Get from http://www.robtex.com/dns/tiscali.fr.html the IPs for your ISP's nameservers and then put these IP numbers into the file /etc/resolv.conf   in a way like: nameserver 213.36.80.2                for instance
[23:11] <MementoMori> Babuto: try ping 208.69.34.231
[23:11] <kdavid> MementoMori: well I have been trying to use a external usb outlet and used my sd card on a card slot. Also I tried directly from a camera in a usb port nothing seems to work
[23:11] <MementoMori> Babuto: if it works add working nameserver to your configuration
[23:11] <genii> MementoMori: He has some dns issue, he can ping but broswser et al that use fqdn don't resolve
[23:12] <Babuto> ping 208.69.34.231 works
[23:12] <partha_> ahmed: welcome
[23:13] <MementoMori> genii: tell Babuto opendns nameserver address so he can do a echo "nameserver IP" > /etc/resolv.conf
[23:13] <Babuto> MementoMori i'm here ^^
[23:13] <MementoMori> kdavid: unplug the usb device camera from your pc
[23:14] <MementoMori> and open a konsole
[23:14] <kdavid> ok
[23:14] <MementoMori> Babuto: so search the opendns nameserver address and do a:
[23:14] <Babuto> how ?
[23:14] <MementoMori> Babuto: echo "nameserver xx.yy.xx.hh" > /etc/resolv.conf
[23:15] <MementoMori> Babuto: you are right
[23:15] <Babuto> i already added it
[23:15] <MementoMori> Babuto: where?
[23:15] <Babuto> in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:15] <genii> Babuto: echo "nameserver 213.36.80.2" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf;echo "nameserver 213.36.80.4" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf                     these are the nameserver IP of your internet provider Tiscali
[23:15] <MementoMori> kdavid: are you ready?
[23:15] <kdavid> yes
[23:16] <MementoMori> ok write this command:
[23:16] <genii> Babuto: After those two commands try to ping by name. Like: ping google.com
[23:16] <MementoMori> kdavid: tail -f /var/log/messages
[23:17] <Babuto> ping www.google.com was already working
[23:17] <MementoMori> kdavid: now plug your dev and paste all the new lines here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:18] <MementoMori> kdavid: tell me when you are ready
[23:18] <genii> Babuto: Unclick "Work Offline" in File menu of Firefox
[23:18] <Babuto> it's not clicked
[23:19] <Babuto> now, when i try to ping : unknown host www.google.om
[23:19] <Babuto> now, when i try to ping : unknown host www.google.com
[23:19] <MementoMori> kdavid: are you writing the lines by hand?
[23:20] <Babuto> what can i do next ?
[23:20] <MementoMori> Babuto: do you have windows on your pc?
[23:20] <kdavid> no I just pasted it
[23:20] <Babuto> yes
[23:20] <MementoMori> kdavid: gimme the link
[23:20] <kdavid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27582/
[23:21] <Babuto> but the problem isn't coming from here, because i can connect on others ethernet networks
[23:21] <MementoMori> Babuto: when you connect to internet do you use a username and password?
[23:21] <Babuto> no, i just have to plug the ethernet cable
[23:21] <Babuto> all my windows network is perfectly working
[23:21] <genii> Babuto: sudo dhclient -r eth0;sudo dhclient eth0                         then try ping test by name again
[23:22] <Babuto> my connection is on eth1
[23:22] <genii> Babuto: Substitute eth# name accordingly then
[23:22] <MementoMori> kdavid: you copy-pasted before you have plugged your device?
[23:22] <Babuto> ping name now works
[23:23] <genii> Babuto: You have an actual other ethernet adapter in there? That could explain the problem partly
[23:23] <kdavid> this one was when I plugged in the device you want it the other way?
[23:23] <MementoMori> no
[23:24] <Babuto> i have several computers connected by ethernet to my modem
[23:24] <DarkAudit> first things first. If I install apt-build, and use the command sudo apt-build install (package), is the locally built package going to be the one installed ot not?
[23:24] <Babuto> (the one i am talking from, for example)
[23:24] <MementoMori> kdavid: did you quit the last command?
[23:24] <genii> Babuto: That doesn't answer my question of how many physical ethernet adapters you have in your computer :)
[23:24] <kdavid> in terminal no
[23:25] <Babuto> oh sorry
[23:25] <Babuto> only one
[23:25] <MementoMori> quit it with CTRL+C and paste me the lsusb command output
[23:25] <Babuto> it's weird that i can ping but not browse :/
[23:26] <genii> Babuto: When ping by name works browsing should work
[23:26] <Babuto> but it doesn't :(
[23:26] <Babuto> even lynx www.google.com doesn't work
[23:26] <Babuto> "HTTP request sent; waiting for response"
[23:27] <kdavid> MementoMori: I don't know what you mean lsusb command output
[23:27] <MementoMori> kdavid: did you do CTRL+C?
[23:27] <genii> Babuto: Were you playing around with firewalls or iptables or such just before this started to happen?
[23:27] <kdavid> yes
[23:27] <MementoMori> ok so type in konsole:
[23:27] <MementoMori> lsusb
[23:28] <MementoMori> copy the output here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:28] <MementoMori> and tell me the link
[23:28] <Babuto> iptables ? no the problem is that my internet connection never worked on kubuntu (but i can connect to other ethernet connections)
[23:28] <kdavid> I typed in lsusb in terminal and nothing happened
[23:28] <Babuto> i have no firewall nor proxy set
[23:29] <MementoMori> hit return after lsusb
[23:29] <kdavid> I did nothing happened
[23:29] <MementoMori> :)
[23:30] <MementoMori> kdavid: close your konsole and open it again
[23:31] <kdavid> do I type anything else in like sudo?
[23:31] <MementoMori> kdavid: (you surely havent closed the tail logging..)
[23:31] <MementoMori> no
[23:31] <kdavid> ok
[23:31] <MementoMori> in a new konsole run lsusb
[23:32] <Babuto> MementoMori, genii : do you have any other idea ?
[23:32] <genii> Babuto: The internet connection works in some capacity obviously.Ping and irc seem to work for you. The browser or browser traffic seems to be the problem.
[23:32] <DarkAudit> what the bleep am I doing wrong here with apt-build? It *looks* like dpkg set it up correctly, but when I do sudo apt-build install package, the package that just got built is ignored in favor of the regular repository version. What did I miss here??
[23:32] <Babuto> irc doesn't work !
[23:32] <Babuto> i'm on another computer
[23:33] <MementoMori> Babuto: if you have only one eth card and you can ping www names I dont see why you cant browse
[23:33] <genii> Babuto: Ah, OK. I had thought you were on the same box then.
[23:33] <Babuto> MementoMori : neither do i
[23:33] <kdavid> I typed it in then it just blinks with the black cursor underneath
[23:33] <genii> MementoMori: I'm suspecting some router filtering
[23:33] <MementoMori> Babuto: try http://208.69.34.231 in your browser
[23:33] <MementoMori> kdavid: so?
[23:34] <Babuto> Connecting to 208.69.34.23 ... it doesn't work
[23:34] <kdavid> just telling you what is happening
[23:34] <Babuto> it seems that all the http protocol doesn't work
[23:34] <genii> Babuto: That is why I am suspecting something firewall related
[23:35] <MementoMori> kdavid: hit return after you write lsusb
[23:35] <Babuto> is there any firewall pre-installed with kubuntu hardy ?
[23:35] <kdavid> MementoMori:  I did
[23:36] <gl4619196> how do i remove my user account?
[23:36] <genii> Babuto: There shouldn't be, except for default settings of iptables
[23:36] <Babuto> or may i have to redirect ports in my modem ?
[23:36] <gl4619196> and add a new one?
[23:36] <gl4619196> im using kubuntu
[23:36] <MementoMori> kdavid: maybe the usb subsystem crashed
[23:36] <MementoMori> kdavid: so do that:
[23:37] <alan> hola alguien que hable español
[23:37] <genii> Babuto: Are you able to use browser to get into your modem from kubuntu box?
[23:37] <MementoMori> kdavid: restart your pc, log here again, plug your dev, open a konsole and run lsusb
[23:38] <kdavid> ok
[23:38] <genii> !es | alan
[23:38] <MementoMori> kdavid: I'm going to have
[23:38] <MementoMori> a cigarette
[23:38] <MementoMori> I'll wait 4 you
[23:39] <Babuto> not from my kubuntu box
[23:39] <Babuto> (i tried to open port 80 for the kubuntu box, but it didn't change a thing
[23:39] <Babuto> )
[23:39] <genii> gl4619196: Removing a user from inside that same users login is somewhat problemmatic. Easier to add a new one, give them sudo rights, then login there and delete the first one.
[23:40] <Babuto> (i can't browse the configuration of the modem but i can ping it ...)
[23:40] <gl4619196> ok but how do i add a new one?
[23:40] <gl4619196> genii
[23:40] <genii> Babuto: Were you online when you installed kubuntu?
[23:41] <Babuto> no but i upgraded my distribution online and i staied several days with a connection so my distribution is up-to-date
[23:42] <alan> ok muchas gracias ubottu
[23:42] <genii> gl4619196: sudo adduser newname                      then put them in adm group by:    sudo usermod -G -a adm newname
[23:43] <Babuto> so ... ? i'll just have to stay on windows ? ;d
[23:44] <genii> gl4619196: Then you can login with the new name which has sudo rights by belonging to group adm and do: sudo deluser oldname
[23:44] <MementoMori> Babuto: paste these commands:
[23:44] <MementoMori> 1) ifconfig eth0
[23:45] <Babuto> eth1 ?
[23:45] <MementoMori> 2) cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:45] <MementoMori> 3) route -n
[23:45] <gl4619196> room number?
[23:45] <gl4619196> what should i type?
[23:45] <MementoMori> Babuto: 4) ifconfig eth1
[23:45] <genii> MementoMori: Remember that he has no browser and so therefore no pastebin
[23:45] <Pepcok^PotLS> hi
[23:46] <MementoMori> genii: how does he connect here?
[23:46] <Pepcok^PotLS> would you recomend me any program which let me see animated gif files?
[23:46] <genii> MementoMori: He's on a second box
[23:46] <MementoMori> Babuto: ok so wait
[23:47] <Babuto> MementoMori
[23:47] <MementoMori> Babuto: run this:
[23:47] <Babuto> wait i will transfer by an usb key
[23:48] <MementoMori> Babuto: ifconfig eth0 > conf.txt; ifconfig eth1 >> conf.txt; route -n >> conf.txt; cat /etc/resolv.conf >> conf.txt
[23:48] <MementoMori> then copy conf.txt on a pendrive and paste it
[23:49]  * genii hands MementoMori a coffee and some Advils
[23:49] <MementoMori> Babuto: instead of "ifconfig ethX" run "ifconfig -a"
[23:50] <MementoMori> genii: I like coffee but I dont know what advils is
[23:50] <genii> Pepcok^PotLS: All web browsers should be able to display animated gifs
[23:51] <genii> MementoMori: Heh...Advil = pain reliever, headache medicine, etc
[23:51] <MementoMori> genii: I dont like this kind of drugs
[23:51] <MementoMori> genii: I do my yoga meditation ;)
[23:51] <genii> MementoMori: OK just the coffee then, I'll take the headache relief pills
[23:52] <Babuto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/27587/
[23:52] <MementoMori> so look at your conf :)
[23:53] <Babuto> ?
[23:54] <Pepcok^PotLS> does anybody here uses Konversation? How can I change webrowser used when i click link?
[23:55] <MementoMori> Babuto: your nameserver maybe is wrong
[23:55] <MementoMori> Babuto: wait a sec
[23:56] <MementoMori> Babuto: do this:
[23:57] <MementoMori> echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf
[23:57] <MementoMori> and
[23:57] <MementoMori> echo "nameserver 208.67.220.220 " >> /etc/resolv.conf
[23:57] <TWood_> Hey I'm having trouble using the kubuntu live cd.  The menu comes up but when I try to boot my computer restarts and I'm back at the menu.  The last message I see is "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, Booting the kernel"
[23:57] <rene> nogen der ved hvordan man laver en ir reamote til kubuntu
[23:57] <MementoMori> Babuto: last command has two > !
[23:57] <genii> Pepcok^PotLS: Settings..Configure Konversation...Behavior...General            check off "Use custom web browser" Then put in the text window next to that the web browser name you want followed by:  '%u'
[23:58] <genii> Pepcok^PotLS: Then hit Apply
[23:58] <MementoMori> Babuto: if you cant do this before:
[23:58] <MementoMori> sudo su -
[23:59] <genii> MementoMori: Um, he won't be able to add to /etc/resolv.conf that way since it needs admin rights
[23:59] <Pepcok^PotLS> genii: thans very much
[23:59] <MementoMori> and the redo the commands
[23:59] <MementoMori> ok
[23:59] <MementoMori> sudo su -
[23:59] <genii> Pepcok^PotLS: You're welcome
[23:59] <MementoMori> your promtp should change from $ to #