/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/15/#launchpad-meeting.txt

spivMeeting time?03:02
spivBarry said he wasn't here, IIRC.03:02
spivDid mwhudson volunteer last week to run the meeting, or am I imagining that? :)03:03
barry#startmeeting03:04
MootBotMeeting started at 21:06. The chair is barry.03:04
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thumperhi barry03:04
jmlbarry: hi03:04
barrythumper: hi!03:04
mwhudsonspiv: no, that's next week and the week after03:04
barryjml: hi!03:04
spivmwhudson: ah.03:04
spivHi!03:04
mwhudsonspiv: though i wasn't completely sure of this until barry arrived :)03:04
barryspiv: hi!03:04
mwhudsonbarry: hello03:04
barrywelcome to this week's asiapacreviewersmeeting03:05
spivmwhudson: that approximates "I'm imagining that" fairly well :)03:05
barryst00pid spacebar03:05
barry[TOPIC] agenda03:06
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barry== Agenda ==03:06
barry * Roll call03:06
barry * Next meeting03:06
barry * Action items03:06
barry * Queue status03:06
barry * Mentoring update03:06
barry * Review process03:06
barry[TOPIC] next meeting03:06
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thumpernow += 1 week03:06
barryyep, with mwhudson chairing the next two03:06
mwhudsonright03:07
thumpercool03:07
barrythanks!03:07
barry[TOPIC] action items03:07
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barry * mwhudson to start discussion on page test purpose03:07
mwhudsondone03:07
barrymwhudson: yes, thanks for getting ball rolling!03:08
barry * thumper to submit a bug for moving ftests contents to tests03:08
mwhudsonnot huge amounts of actual discussion yet, but no serious disagreements03:08
thumpercompletely forgot about that one03:08
* barry still has to follow up on that thread03:08
thumperbut ISTR someone else filed one03:08
thumperI have hundreds of unred emails right now03:08
barrythumper: i think so too03:09
thumperor even unread03:09
barrythumper: can you double check to make sure that's been filed?03:09
thumpersure03:09
barrythumper: thanks03:09
barry * jml to find out how divmodders test their javascript03:09
jmlsame as last week. have talked with them but need to dig into code.03:10
barryjml: cool. let's just keep it on the agenda03:10
barrythe rest of the action items are for ameus03:10
jmlok03:11
barry[TOPIC]  * Queue status03:11
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* barry sucks for not being able to do on-call today03:11
barrythere are three pink branches, but i know about the launchpadlib-integration branch03:11
barryand of course the neverending testsuite2 branch03:12
barryany comments on the queue from you guys?03:12
* thumper is wrestling with firefox03:13
jmlbarry: what's the testsuite2 branch again?03:13
mwhudsonhm, i approved  mpt/launchpad/2008-07-location-ff2 i think03:13
barryjml: i don't exactly remember but every time i try to kill it, jamesh or stub says "no"03:13
mwhudsondidn't realise it was on PendingReviews03:14
barrymaybe i should ping them again on it03:14
jml*nod*03:14
barry[ACTION] barry to ping jamesh and stub on the testsuite2 branch03:14
MootBotACTION received:  barry to ping jamesh and stub on the testsuite2 branch03:14
jmlbarry: get one of them to write a cover letter.03:15
barry[TOPIC] mentoring updates03:15
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barryjml: or move it to wip03:15
jmlbarry: or both :)03:15
barryjml: good idea03:16
jmlbarry: the advantage of a cover letter is we'll know what it is.03:16
barryyeah!03:16
* barry has nothing on mentoring03:16
mwhudsonwho is being mentored currently?03:17
barry[TOPIC]  * Review process03:17
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barrymwhudson: i think it's edwin cprov03:17
mwhudsonand aaron?03:17
barrymwhudson: yep, though he hasn't started yet.  i plan on talking with him tomorrow03:18
mwhudsonok03:18
* barry has nothing on the review process03:19
barryanything else from you guys?  anything you want me to ask/communicate to the ameus?03:19
mwhudsonhmm, https://launchpad.canonical.com/PreMergeReviews#head-2dd754eaa80be7573433fe3e30b217789644c607 seems rather spectacularly out of date03:19
jmlbarry: nothing from me.03:20
barry[ACTION] barry to update PreMergeReviews03:20
MootBotACTION received:  barry to update PreMergeReviews03:20
barrymwhudson: phew , yes!03:20
mwhudsonmost of stacking landed in bzr yesterday/last night03:20
barryyay!03:20
thumper\o/03:20
mwhudsonso that's one stop closer to dogfooding launchpad03:20
jmlyeah.03:20
barrymwhudson: that will rock03:21
barrymwhudson: is there anything clients have to be aware of when we switch to stacking?03:21
* jml smiles03:21
barrymwhudson: or do we just change our urls? :)03:21
jmlbarry: you'll need to be using a client bzr that supports stacking03:21
thumperbarry: it should be pretty transparent as a client03:22
barryjml: 1.6?03:22
mwhudsonbut hopefully, bzr 1.6 and some locations.conf changes and that's it03:22
jmlbarry: then Launchpad will tell the client how to stack03:22
barryare there any weird interactions between stacking and looms?03:22
jmlnot that I'm aware of. haven't rigorously tested that angle though03:23
thumperI'm not sure about stacked looms right now03:23
barrymany of us are quite addicted to looms03:23
spivI wouldn't expect any great surprises there.03:24
jmlbarry: yeah, I use looms a lot03:24
jmlbarry: but "addicted" is a pretty strong word.03:24
spivThey operate at different layers.03:24
mwhudsoneven if noone quite understands what 'record' does :)03:24
mwhudsonspiv: but looms define a new branch format... doesn't it inherit from branch6?03:25
mwhudsonlooks like the plugin will need updating a bit03:25
barry[ALIASES] jfdi = record03:26
jmlsurely you mean: jfdi = record ''03:26
jmlyou have to specify a message :)03:26
barryjml: :-D03:26
mwhudsonmine is usually 'whut'03:26
jmlso, I'm about to take a train ride03:26
* barry hearts trains03:27
jmlon this train ride I will be either testing stacking or patching bzr-loom to fix record03:27
barryjml: when you say "fix record" do you mean "get rid of the onion in the varnish"?03:27
jmlbarry: I mean start making tweaks along the lines of discussions I've had with lifeless03:28
jmlbarry: I don't understand record, but I assume lifeless does :)03:28
spivbarry: that's a phrase I haven't heard before...03:28
barryjml: if lifeless doesn't understand record, then nobody does :)03:28
jmlbarry: things like a log of recordings, commit-style editing, a status indicator showing that you need to record03:28
barryspiv: jim fulton used to tell this story regarding zope3. not easy to relate in irc ;)03:29
spivI understand the intent of record, I think.03:29
spivI'm not sure how far apart the implementation and the intent are.03:29
jmlI understand the intent03:29
jmlI'm just not yet convinced it's a good idea.03:29
barryspiv: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OnionInTheVarnish03:30
spivbarry: ta03:30
mwhudsonaaaaaaaaaaaanyway03:30
barryyes.  that's all i have03:30
barry#endmeeting03:30
MootBotMeeting finished at 21:32.03:30
barrythanks everyone.  have a good few weeks03:31
mwhudsonyou too03:31
mwhudsonplz fix the test suite in montreal03:31
mwhudson:03:31
mwhudson:)03:31
barrymwhudson: oh yes03:31
barrysee ya03:31
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