[03:02] Meeting time? [03:02] Barry said he wasn't here, IIRC. [03:03] Did mwhudson volunteer last week to run the meeting, or am I imagining that? :) [03:04] #startmeeting [03:04] Meeting started at 21:06. The chair is barry. [03:04] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [03:04] hi barry [03:04] barry: hi [03:04] thumper: hi! [03:04] spiv: no, that's next week and the week after [03:04] jml: hi! [03:04] mwhudson: ah. [03:04] Hi! [03:04] spiv: though i wasn't completely sure of this until barry arrived :) [03:04] spiv: hi! [03:04] barry: hello [03:05] welcome to this week's asiapacreviewersmeeting [03:05] mwhudson: that approximates "I'm imagining that" fairly well :) [03:05] st00pid spacebar [03:06] [TOPIC] agenda [03:06] New Topic: agenda [03:06] == Agenda == [03:06] * Roll call [03:06] * Next meeting [03:06] * Action items [03:06] * Queue status [03:06] * Mentoring update [03:06] * Review process [03:06] [TOPIC] next meeting [03:06] New Topic: next meeting [03:06] now += 1 week [03:06] yep, with mwhudson chairing the next two [03:07] right [03:07] cool [03:07] thanks! [03:07] [TOPIC] action items [03:07] New Topic: action items [03:07] * mwhudson to start discussion on page test purpose [03:07] done [03:08] mwhudson: yes, thanks for getting ball rolling! [03:08] * thumper to submit a bug for moving ftests contents to tests [03:08] not huge amounts of actual discussion yet, but no serious disagreements [03:08] completely forgot about that one [03:08] * barry still has to follow up on that thread [03:08] but ISTR someone else filed one [03:08] I have hundreds of unred emails right now [03:09] thumper: i think so too [03:09] or even unread [03:09] thumper: can you double check to make sure that's been filed? [03:09] sure [03:09] thumper: thanks [03:09] * jml to find out how divmodders test their javascript [03:10] same as last week. have talked with them but need to dig into code. [03:10] jml: cool. let's just keep it on the agenda [03:10] the rest of the action items are for ameus [03:11] ok [03:11] [TOPIC] * Queue status [03:11] New Topic: * Queue status [03:11] * barry sucks for not being able to do on-call today [03:11] there are three pink branches, but i know about the launchpadlib-integration branch [03:12] and of course the neverending testsuite2 branch [03:12] any comments on the queue from you guys? [03:13] * thumper is wrestling with firefox [03:13] barry: what's the testsuite2 branch again? [03:13] hm, i approved mpt/launchpad/2008-07-location-ff2 i think [03:13] jml: i don't exactly remember but every time i try to kill it, jamesh or stub says "no" [03:14] didn't realise it was on PendingReviews [03:14] maybe i should ping them again on it [03:14] *nod* [03:14] [ACTION] barry to ping jamesh and stub on the testsuite2 branch [03:14] ACTION received: barry to ping jamesh and stub on the testsuite2 branch [03:15] barry: get one of them to write a cover letter. [03:15] [TOPIC] mentoring updates [03:15] New Topic: mentoring updates [03:15] jml: or move it to wip [03:15] barry: or both :) [03:16] jml: good idea [03:16] barry: the advantage of a cover letter is we'll know what it is. [03:16] yeah! [03:16] * barry has nothing on mentoring [03:17] who is being mentored currently? [03:17] [TOPIC] * Review process [03:17] New Topic: * Review process [03:17] mwhudson: i think it's edwin cprov [03:17] and aaron? [03:18] mwhudson: yep, though he hasn't started yet. i plan on talking with him tomorrow [03:18] ok [03:19] * barry has nothing on the review process [03:19] anything else from you guys? anything you want me to ask/communicate to the ameus? [03:19] hmm, https://launchpad.canonical.com/PreMergeReviews#head-2dd754eaa80be7573433fe3e30b217789644c607 seems rather spectacularly out of date [03:20] barry: nothing from me. [03:20] [ACTION] barry to update PreMergeReviews [03:20] ACTION received: barry to update PreMergeReviews [03:20] mwhudson: phew , yes! [03:20] most of stacking landed in bzr yesterday/last night [03:20] yay! [03:20] \o/ [03:20] so that's one stop closer to dogfooding launchpad [03:20] yeah. [03:21] mwhudson: that will rock [03:21] mwhudson: is there anything clients have to be aware of when we switch to stacking? [03:21] * jml smiles [03:21] mwhudson: or do we just change our urls? :) [03:21] barry: you'll need to be using a client bzr that supports stacking [03:22] barry: it should be pretty transparent as a client [03:22] jml: 1.6? [03:22] but hopefully, bzr 1.6 and some locations.conf changes and that's it [03:22] barry: then Launchpad will tell the client how to stack [03:22] are there any weird interactions between stacking and looms? [03:23] not that I'm aware of. haven't rigorously tested that angle though [03:23] I'm not sure about stacked looms right now [03:23] many of us are quite addicted to looms [03:24] I wouldn't expect any great surprises there. [03:24] barry: yeah, I use looms a lot [03:24] barry: but "addicted" is a pretty strong word. [03:24] They operate at different layers. [03:24] even if noone quite understands what 'record' does :) [03:25] spiv: but looms define a new branch format... doesn't it inherit from branch6? [03:25] looks like the plugin will need updating a bit [03:26] [ALIASES] jfdi = record [03:26] surely you mean: jfdi = record '' [03:26] you have to specify a message :) [03:26] jml: :-D [03:26] mine is usually 'whut' [03:26] so, I'm about to take a train ride [03:27] * barry hearts trains [03:27] on this train ride I will be either testing stacking or patching bzr-loom to fix record [03:27] jml: when you say "fix record" do you mean "get rid of the onion in the varnish"? [03:28] barry: I mean start making tweaks along the lines of discussions I've had with lifeless [03:28] barry: I don't understand record, but I assume lifeless does :) [03:28] barry: that's a phrase I haven't heard before... [03:28] jml: if lifeless doesn't understand record, then nobody does :) [03:28] barry: things like a log of recordings, commit-style editing, a status indicator showing that you need to record [03:29] spiv: jim fulton used to tell this story regarding zope3. not easy to relate in irc ;) [03:29] I understand the intent of record, I think. [03:29] I'm not sure how far apart the implementation and the intent are. [03:29] I understand the intent [03:29] I'm just not yet convinced it's a good idea. [03:30] spiv: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OnionInTheVarnish [03:30] barry: ta [03:30] aaaaaaaaaaaanyway [03:30] yes. that's all i have [03:30] #endmeeting [03:30] Meeting finished at 21:32. [03:31] thanks everyone. have a good few weeks [03:31] you too [03:31] plz fix the test suite in montreal [03:31] : [03:31] :) [03:31] mwhudson: oh yes [03:31] see ya === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === salgado-brb is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === herb__ is now known as herb