| Rhamphoryncus | Oh hey, it is done scanning :D | 00:01 |
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| Ursinha | assim? | 00:01 |
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| mpt | ScottK, I'm glad you like Launchpad without CSS, I went to quite a bit of trouble to make that nicer :-) | 00:21 |
| ScottK | mpt: Now if you could just get Bug #59510 taken care of we'd be in business. | 00:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 59510 in launchpad "Can't log in with w3m due to bad cookies" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59510 | 00:57 |
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| Hobbsee | Rinchen: and when will this miniumal UI actually get implemented? | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | geser: you're not alone, re the quick searches. | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | geser: some projects are listed as you, along with all other motu's, because some strange nitwit decided to subscribe/assign motu to some non-ubuntu bugs. | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | and while they got marked as invalid / unsubscribed, the damage is still done, and the projects will probably be there, unless the MOTU team dies, or you quit it | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: there are a lot of things that are going to get implemented at some point. But now we don't have a simple UI where people could find stuff, and get stuff done. | 02:27 |
| LaserJock | well, I can find stuff and get stuff done | 02:29 |
| LaserJock | it could just be better | 02:29 |
| emgent | moin | 02:39 |
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| Hobbsee | ARGH! | 07:12 |
| * Hobbsee is so utterly damned confused now | 07:12 | |
| Hobbsee | how do i get where i want to go? | 07:12 |
| spiv | Hobbsee: you sound a little... on edge. | 07:12 |
| spiv | (ba-dum tish!) | 07:13 |
| Hobbsee | spiv: yeah, i'm attempting to use the bug page. | 07:13 |
| * Hobbsee wonders why assigned to is smaller than the section for milestone | 07:13 | |
| Hobbsee | spiv: even production won't be safe in a couple of days :( | 07:14 |
| * Hobbsee gets lost among all the tabs and breadcrums, to the point of finding how to go back to the bug list, from a particular bug, is hard. :( | 07:16 | |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: what you don't have the URL memorized? :-) | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: i didn't bother using my shortcut, no. | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: the new 'features' of that page tend to throw all logic otu the window, leaving a remaining small cry of "i should know how to use this. i feel stupid. but it's so confusing" | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | do we need a Launchpad support group? | 07:19 |
| Hobbsee | depends how bad the UI gets... | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | "hi, my name is Jordan and I'm confused by Launchpad, it's been 5 months since I last knew how to use the UI" ;p | 07:19 |
| Hobbsee | heirachy is really hard, when some of it is breadcrumbs, which is left justified, and some of it is tabs, which is center. | 07:20 |
| Hobbsee | i can't tell which is more important anymore | 07:20 |
| nycerine | personally I think the tabs take too much space (if we're into them at the moment) | 07:20 |
| Hobbsee | i'm just finding the same things in multiple places - or at least, i think they are, but everything keeps changing so much that i don't know what's right and wrong to click anymore, and i can't use a sense of logic, as that would tell me that the functions would all be in a list on the page somewhere - but they're not - they're randomly around the page. | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | So i'm really just going mad. | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | we knew that already ... ;-) | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | yeah well. mad faster, then. | 07:23 |
| nycerine | could it be an idea to change the appearance of the tabs? | 07:23 |
| thekorn | In my opinion the biggest problem is that all pages lost a lot of contrast, | 07:26 |
| thekorn | there is no clear difference between content and functionality | 07:26 |
| nycerine | contact details should be on the right of the "most active", "latest memberships" and "bragging rights" | 07:35 |
| nycerine | it takes up so much space | 07:35 |
| capiscuas1982 | hi everybody, in my launchpad project only the admin can upload files into the project, how to let the drivers also upload? | 07:38 |
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| jamesh | capiscuas1982: try changing ownership of the project to a team that you can add other LP users to | 07:46 |
| capiscuas1982 | james: i'm afraid that giving the ownership of a whole team i'll be giving people right to change the ownership again and kick us out :-) | 07:54 |
| jamesh | capiscuas1982: well, if you don't trust the people to help you run the project, why would you trust them to add files for download? | 07:57 |
| capiscuas1982 | jamesh: thanks, i've added those that i trust the most in a mantainer group, anyway I wish that launchpad has an option to just control who can upload files without the need of giving full privileges | 08:10 |
| bca_ | hi there, | 08:51 |
| bca_ | i have got a problem with my launchpad account, when I try to log in, it tells me that "This account | 08:53 |
| bca_ | cannot be used". When I got to my project page and click on my username, it tells me that "bertrand.cachet does not use Launchpad". | 08:53 |
| bca_ | I really don't know how to solve this issue, | 08:53 |
| bca_ | I have found no information on google except a web page on ubuntu forum that tells that if we encounters this problem, we should go to IRC to ask for some help | 08:53 |
| * wgrant prefers the short-lived logo favicon. | 09:30 | |
| bca_ | hi, does somebody have information about my problem: I have got the message "This account cannot be used" when I try to login | 10:39 |
| bca_ | ? | 10:39 |
| wgrant | bca_: You need a Launchpad person to fix your account. I'm not sure that anybody who can fix it is around right now. | 10:44 |
| bca_ | ok | 10:44 |
| intellectronica | bca_: what's your launchpad username? | 10:44 |
| Peng | bca_: Did you change your email address? That's one cause. | 10:44 |
| Peng | Has that been fixed yet? | 10:44 |
| bca_ | bertrand.cachet | 10:44 |
| bca_ | i have this problem for 3 weeks no | 10:45 |
| bca_ | i have readen on ubuntu forums that this problem sometimes appear and disappear | 10:45 |
| bca_ | so i have waited a little bit | 10:45 |
| * wgrant wonders why all of the accounts weren't fixed at once. | 10:45 | |
| bca_ | but now, it is a bit long with no changement | 10:46 |
| bca_ | that's why i ask for some help | 10:46 |
| intellectronica | bca_: are you sure? i mean that thing that appears at the end of launchpad.net/~yourusername | 10:46 |
| bca_ | have a try if you want | 10:46 |
| intellectronica | bca_: ah right, found it, it appears with a hyphen in the url | 10:47 |
| intellectronica | bca_: this has been a recurring problem lately and we're working on fixing it. i'll make sure that someone fixes your account soon | 10:47 |
| bca_ | https://launchpad.net/~bertrand-cachet | 10:47 |
| bca_ | thanks a lot intellectronica | 10:48 |
| intellectronica | bca_: np. sorry for the inconvenience | 10:48 |
| bca_ | i have added a comment onto the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/245584 | 10:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245584 in launchpad "This account cannot be used - sporadic issue for a number of accounts" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 10:48 |
| bca_ | because it is more or less the same | 10:48 |
| stub | bca_: It is the same, and I've fixed it for you in the database. | 10:55 |
| stub | There is a code fix already made allowing people to reclaim accounts in this state, but I don't think it is available on the main site yet. | 10:56 |
| bca_ | stub: perfect | 10:58 |
| bca_ | i can now loggin | 10:58 |
| bca_ | thanks a lot | 10:58 |
| LaserJock | stub: is there no way to spot the problem in the database and fix it automatically? | 10:59 |
| stub | IIRC it isn't a problem, rather than a fix. These are accounts that have been flagged as unwanted, and now we are paying much more attention to that flag. If the accounts where flagged incorrectly, I have no way of telling them apart from the genuine ones. | 11:02 |
| wgrant | I thought there was some bogus email address change handling which resulted in them being deactivated... | 11:04 |
| stub | Maybe - I haven't been following in detail. | 11:04 |
| wgrant | Or is this not bug #244499 which sinzui was talking about with you? | 11:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 244499 in launchpad "can't login anymore on launchpad after switching several mail addresses" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244499 | 11:05 |
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| Laibsch | Hi | 12:14 |
| Laibsch | we are trying to evaluate Rosetta for gnucash translations | 12:14 |
| Laibsch | Thank you for the support so far | 12:14 |
| Laibsch | I am not well-versed in the management of translations at all | 12:15 |
| Laibsch | I have gotten a question from the current technical maintainer relating to pot, po and the source code itself | 12:15 |
| Laibsch | Can somebody please point me to some information where I can quickly understand how those three entities relate? | 12:16 |
| Laibsch | My current understanding: pot equates to a collection of translation tasks | 12:16 |
| intellectronica | jtv or danilos should be able to help | 12:16 |
| Laibsch | po is the results where the tasks are finished | 12:16 |
| Laibsch | how does the source code play into this? | 12:17 |
| Laibsch | intellectronica: thanks for the pointer to the right people | 12:17 |
| Laibsch | ping jtv and danilos | 12:17 |
| * Laibsch is reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettext | 12:21 | |
| Laibsch | and understands much better now | 12:21 |
| Laibsch | I guess the question is, can rosetta be told to run xgettext to create the .pot file itself? | 12:22 |
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| zeth | Hello, is it possible to checkout code from a launchpad project using subversion? | 12:32 |
| intellectronica | zeth: no, you'll have to use bzr | 12:33 |
| intellectronica | it should be very easy to adjust, though | 12:34 |
| zeth | well its not that, I like bzr | 12:34 |
| zeth | it is just that I have a project I want to host | 12:34 |
| zeth | and it has a few dependencies from else where that are checked out via svn | 12:35 |
| zeth | so it is nicer if the whole thing works using one client | 12:35 |
| zeth | also, bzr requires Python 2.4 | 12:35 |
| intellectronica | zeth: maybe import those projects into launchpad? | 12:36 |
| zeth | Django and docutils? | 12:36 |
| intellectronica | zeth: why not. it would be good to have those projects in lp. they are both quite popular so i bet many people would benefit from that | 12:36 |
| zeth | well | 12:37 |
| zeth | making people require Python 2.4 is still a bit much | 12:37 |
| intellectronica | zeth: also, there's a bzr plugin to work with subversion repositories. i don't know how good it is, though | 12:37 |
| zeth | anyhow, I have written a website generation tool | 12:37 |
| intellectronica | zeth: python 2.4 is nearly 4 years old. what system is that which doesn't have it yet? | 12:37 |
| zeth | OS X Tiger | 12:38 |
| intellectronica | really? they don't ship with python 2.4? and is it not possible to upgrade? | 12:38 |
| zeth | I would like to support as many systems as possible with the lease work for the user as possible | 12:38 |
| zeth | OS X Leopard ( the latest) comes with 2.5.something | 12:38 |
| zeth | but OS.X Tiger is not that ols | 12:38 |
| zeth | old | 12:38 |
| intellectronica | anyway, nothing much that can be done about this. LP only hosts bzr branches. but you can host subversion or cvs branches elsewhere and have them imported automatically | 12:40 |
| zeth | So basically, my website generation tool should be usable by less technically saavy users, not just hardcore geeks | 12:41 |
| zeth | launchpad is nice looking project site, but I don't want to increase the system requirements of my potential users | 12:42 |
| wgrant | Python 2.4 can't be an increase in requirements on any sane system... | 12:42 |
| zeth | if bzr allowed one to check out svn by default, that would be more compelling | 12:42 |
| wgrant | It has been available on everything for years and years! | 12:42 |
| zeth | wgrant: OS X Tiger is a sane system | 12:42 |
| wgrant | zeth: The bzr-svn allows you to do that excellently. | 12:43 |
| wgrant | zeth: Not if it doesn't have Python. | 12:43 |
| zeth | a lot of Red hat servers also still also have Python 2.3 | 12:43 |
| zeth | OS X Tiger (10.4) came with Python 2.3 | 12:43 |
| zeth | OS X Leopard (10.5) came with Python 2.5 | 12:43 |
| wgrant | But RHEL is implicitly prehistoric... can its Subversion read your repository? | 12:43 |
| zeth | wgrant: good point | 12:44 |
| zeth | no idea | 12:44 |
| intellectronica | on _some_ operating systems, you get upgraded to the latest version of those tools no matter when you first installed it ;) | 12:44 |
| zeth | My tool is currently on my hard drive and no where else | 12:44 |
| zeth | yeah on decent OS | 12:44 |
| zeth | bu on Apple, you get what Apple gives | 12:44 |
| wgrant | Or you install trivially from python.org... | 12:45 |
| zeth | and they sadly don't push Python updates down the upgrade tool | 12:45 |
| zeth | you and I can | 12:45 |
| zeth | but my website generation tool is aimed at wider audience | 12:45 |
| intellectronica | zeth: python being free software, you can always bundle it with your app. it's not very big, considering the sizes of downloads people are accustomed to these days | 12:46 |
| wgrant | If they're building a website and using Subversion (why would they be using a VCS rather than downloading a release?), they can probably install Python too. | 12:46 |
| zeth | intellectronica: that is true actually | 12:46 |
| zeth | wgrant: well my manual tells them what commands to paste in | 12:47 |
| zeth | I was interested in using Launchpad because it is the only open source project hosting site I have seen so far that does not look butt ugly | 12:48 |
| intellectronica | zeth: hopefully you'll also find it to be powerful and easy to use. give it a try - if you absolutely have to use subversion, you can always host the code elsewhere and have it imported automatically into launchpad | 12:50 |
| zeth | well, I actually use bzr at the moment for development, but I just want to be able to export the code somehow via subversion | 12:51 |
| zeth | is there someway of going bzr > launchpad > *somewhere* > subversion ? | 12:51 |
| wgrant | A more normal situation is to have users download a release, rather than checkout from the likely unstable VCS. | 12:51 |
| intellectronica | zeth: you can use the bzr svn plugin to do that | 12:51 |
| wgrant | But intellectronica is correct - bzr-svn will let you push to a Subversion repository. | 12:52 |
| zeth | wgrant: it would, but the deps change too much | 12:52 |
| wgrant | zeth: How does a VCS help that? | 12:52 |
| zeth | wgrant: and i am lazy, I don't want to go and find out how to package for OS X and Windows | 12:52 |
| zeth | well, I get the users to have a project directory | 12:53 |
| wgrant | A tarball? | 12:53 |
| wgrant | No worse than a VCS checkout. | 12:53 |
| zeth | which has inside the deps and my app | 12:53 |
| zeth | they can just use svn up | 12:53 |
| zeth | wgrant: maybe a tarball | 12:54 |
| zeth | but I don't want to distribute the deps | 12:54 |
| zeth | I think my current approach is okay compromise | 12:54 |
| zeth | so bzr-svn is pushing from my local computer to subversion repositry? | 12:56 |
| zeth | not from launchpad? | 12:56 |
| intellectronica | zeth: correct | 12:58 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: hello :) | 12:58 |
| zeth | Hi! | 12:59 |
| mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 13:01 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: I thought you might be the same person who asked for session chairs at EP, and indeed, I still only know 1 zeth so far ;) | 13:01 |
| wgrant | Evening mpt. | 13:02 |
| emgent | heya wgrant :) | 13:03 |
| mpt | wgrant, how went the bug reporting? | 13:03 |
| emgent | someone know why some task opened and some nominated ? | 13:03 |
| emgent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/+bug/248674 | 13:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 248674 in ffmpeg "CVE-2008-3162 Stack-based buffer overflow" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:03 |
| emgent | weird. | 13:04 |
| zeth | LarstiQ: same zeth | 13:04 |
| zeth | I only know 1 zeth also | 13:04 |
| wgrant | emgent: You probably only have privileges over the Dapper and Feisty versions. | 13:04 |
| wgrant | Indeed, it is in main in Hardy and Gutsy. | 13:04 |
| emgent | wgrant: i'm motu. | 13:04 |
| zeth | if one can actually know oneself | 13:04 |
| \sh | emgent: IMHO ffmpeg is now main, and not universe/multiverse anymore | 13:04 |
| wgrant | So you have no privilege.s | 13:04 |
| emgent | argh | 13:05 |
| zeth | LarstiQ: who are you, I can't guess from your username sorry | 13:05 |
| emgent | ok nice. | 13:05 |
| emgent | and ffmpeg-free is in universe | 13:05 |
| emgent | true ? | 13:05 |
| emgent | http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ffmpeg | 13:06 |
| emgent | i saw universe. | 13:06 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: you asked on Sunday evening in the Reval lobby iirc, I was sitting at a table with Tommi Virtanen and Chris Scholz. Oh, and I declined chairing due to possible video recording and Guido's slide turning. | 13:06 |
| \sh | intrepid development main release 3:0.svn20080206-8ubuntu1 None defined | 13:06 |
| \sh | emgent: also main | 13:07 |
| emgent | ok thanks \sh | 13:07 |
| \sh | emgent: talk to siretart :) | 13:07 |
| wgrant | emgent: Don't use packages.ubuntu.com - it's often out of date, wrong, or generally misleading. | 13:07 |
| wgrant | cprov: I don't like this new link to the .changes on PPAs... | 13:08 |
| carlos | hi | 13:08 |
| zeth | LarstiQ: ah yes, I remember | 13:08 |
| carlos | mpt: ping | 13:08 |
| zeth | some of the organisation was a bit just-in-time | 13:08 |
| * Hobbsee waves | 13:08 | |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: is this the one i couldnt' find a few days ago? | 13:08 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: quite :) | 13:09 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: It's the one that you shouldn't be able to find at all, lest horrible horrible things happen. | 13:09 |
| geser | emgent: check the source package and not a binary one, as source can be in main but the binary in universe | 13:09 |
| zeth | lots of assumptions seem to have been made about who was organising what | 13:09 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: oh, lovely. i wonder where it is now.. | 13:09 |
| zeth | I think people assumed the Lithuanians knew telepathically what had happened in previous years | 13:10 |
| geser | Hi Hobbsee | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | heya geser | 13:10 |
| zeth | this was my first europython also | 13:10 |
| emgent | geser: thanks | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: WOW. classy on oh so many levels. | 13:10 |
| zeth | next year is different because it follows on from UK events in the same venue | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | that really is....spectacularly good. | 13:11 |
| zeth | so everyone *should* know what to do hopefully | 13:11 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 13:11 |
| wgrant | It's only for one's own uploads. | 13:11 |
| wgrant | But still revealing. | 13:11 |
| Hobbsee | well it would be nice if they removed the typo, too | 13:11 |
| wgrant | Which? | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | well, 'changesfile' is usually spelt as 'changes file' | 13:12 |
| wgrant | The absence of space is not just there - I presume it to be intentional. | 13:12 |
| wgrant | (it's on normal SPR pages as well) | 13:13 |
| Hobbsee | it's still a bug - launchpad really should be aiming for readable, and giving correct english. | 13:13 |
| wgrant | I'm never sure how to best phrase it. changes file? .changes? change file? Urgh. | 13:14 |
| Hobbsee | changes file, i'd expect. | 13:14 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as there are usually multiple changes | 13:14 |
| wgrant | I guess so. | 13:14 |
| siretart | \sh: ? | 13:22 |
| \sh | siretart: ffmpeg and security -> emgent :) | 13:22 |
| emgent | siretart: check your mail | 13:23 |
| emgent | :) | 13:23 |
| zeth | okay, so I provide bzr checkout through a launchpad site, and I use the bzr-svn thing to mirror the repo somewhere | 13:28 |
| zeth | I think it would be better if launchpad exported in several formats, but the bzr svn thing should work | 13:31 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, there is no minimal UI planned | 13:43 |
| mpt | but we're publishing APIs to let people write their own clients | 13:43 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: why did Rinchen say there would be, then? | 13:43 |
| mpt | and their own interfaces | 13:44 |
| pep | Hi | 13:48 |
| pep | I'm just wondering if it is my browser that bugs or if there is no more drop down menu in the new UI... ? | 13:48 |
| pep | when you hover on the launchpad button on the left | 13:49 |
| pep | in edge | 13:49 |
| andrea-bs | pep: this is the expected behavior | 13:49 |
| pep | thank you. | 13:49 |
| wgrant | How does one navigate now? | 13:50 |
| Hobbsee | one memorises all the URL's? | 13:50 |
| pep | then I wonder... how do you access /people, /projects, /sprints or /distros ? | 13:50 |
| wgrant | How does one discover the URLs without checking the source or pre-1.0? | 13:50 |
| wgrant | pep: Magic, see. | 13:50 |
| wgrant | mpt: Any ideas? | 13:51 |
| pep | you have to do a fake search or click on register to get the menu on the right as far as I found out ... | 13:51 |
| Hobbsee | why are there no links back to launchpad.net, at all? | 13:51 |
| pep | which is not realy very handy when you're loking for a team, person or interested on sprints (as project search is on the front page) | 13:51 |
| pep | Hobbsee: click on the top-left launchpad icon | 13:52 |
| pep | should go back to launchpad.net | 13:52 |
| Hobbsee | pep: i did. it doesn't. | 13:52 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Does it go to the application home? | 13:52 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, I'm fixing that today | 13:52 |
| Hobbsee | and why does https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/ get a "Projects" breadcrumb, yet the others don't? | 13:52 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: oh goody | 13:52 |
| pep | Hobbsee: the others do here :/ | 13:52 |
| wgrant | PillarNames stuffing up the context? How odd. | 13:53 |
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| pep | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/172727 this is the bug in question. | 13:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 172727 in launchpad "People page (/people) is too hard to find" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:57 |
| pep | and taht was with the drop-down menu... | 13:57 |
| mpt | pep, I did a fix yesterday that provides access to /people | 13:58 |
| pep | Oh right | 13:58 |
| pep | is it already in staging? | 13:58 |
| mpt | pep, /sprints can be accessed from the Blueprints front page ("Show all sprints and meetings") -- that's not obvious, but it's about as obvious as the menu was | 13:58 |
| mpt | Can you give an example of why you'd want to go to /projects or /distros that doesn't involve searching for one? | 13:59 |
| pep | well /projects is ok, but when you search for a distro, what do you do? | 14:00 |
| pep | search for it in the projects search box? | 14:00 |
| pep | I actually had the problem when I wanted to search for a person/team | 14:01 |
| pep | but you say it's fiwed so not a problem anymore | 14:02 |
| pep | I just thought if someone wants to search for a distro he'll have the same problem. | 14:02 |
| mpt | pep, yes, for example <https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/?text=debian> | 14:03 |
| pep | ok I see | 14:03 |
| pep | i suppose from a launchpad point of view a distro is a project | 14:04 |
| pep | thanks for the info | 14:05 |
| mpt | pep, we do treat distributions specially (that's why it has a different icon in those search results), but we recognize that people shouldn't need to go to a different page before searching for them | 14:05 |
| pep | yes | 14:05 |
| wgrant | mpt: So to search for a distro, one can use the project search, but to add a distro bugtask one cannot use the project button? | 14:06 |
| pep | I suppose someone who is not familiar with the project will first search for it as a project so it's ok | 14:06 |
| mpt | wgrant, nag your friendly local Launchpad Bugs developer to fix bug 1334 | 14:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1334 in malone ""Also affects:" "Project…" and "Distribution/Package…" links should be merged" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334 | 14:09 |
| mpt | wgrant, but that that bug isn't fixed yet isn't a reason to make searching for distributions more difficult. | 14:09 |
| wgrant | After that long? I doubt it. | 14:09 |
| wgrant | Although I did see that bug #7 is targetted to 1.99.. | 14:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 7 in rosetta "Need help for novice translators" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7 | 14:10 |
| wgrant | mpt: Gecko 1.9's zoom functionality introduces significant artifacts in the new LP header. | 14:10 |
| wgrant | This is probably a bad thing. | 14:10 |
| mpt | wgrant, also on my list for fixing today (it's worse in FF2) | 14:11 |
| pep | Oh, and I had an unimportant question, just informative, how are projects selected to be in the "Featured projects" list on the main page? Just 17 most active/major projects? | 14:11 |
| wgrant | mpt: So I saw. | 14:11 |
| mpt | oh? | 14:11 |
| wgrant | mpt: The FF2 thing. | 14:11 |
| mpt | When did you see it? | 14:12 |
| wgrant | You filed a bug about it. | 14:12 |
| mpt | well, sure | 14:13 |
| mpt | pep, I don't know the answer to that sorry. I know the choice is manual, though. | 14:13 |
| pep | Ok, I guess it's just the most notorious projects.. only wondering :) | 14:14 |
| Hobbsee | aiee aiee aieee | 14:15 |
| mpt | pep, and to answer your earlier question, no, the People fix is not on staging yet | 14:15 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: where do i nominate things for releases now? | 14:15 |
| Hobbsee | can i? | 14:15 |
| * Hobbsee is attempting *not* to use the page find. | 14:16 | |
| mpt | Hobbsee, erm, I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed at all | 14:16 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Right underneath the task table. | 14:16 |
| wgrant | Right-hand link. | 14:16 |
| Hobbsee | oh | 14:16 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: i probalby haven't used it since it moved otu of the actions menu | 14:16 |
| mpt | ah | 14:16 |
| pep | mpt: I am working on a website, a repository of marketing resources and artwork for ubuntu, via the marketing team, and I am very concerned about UI and usability... I just watched your Usability.odp and found it very interesting! | 14:26 |
| pep | :query linuxcrypt | 14:26 |
| pep | oops | 14:26 |
| pep | back, sorry about that. | 14:30 |
| mpt | pep, heh, I'd forgotten about that | 14:31 |
| mpt | That was a quick talk I gave at UDS in Boston | 14:31 |
| pep | yes I liked it very much because I am precisely trying to make my point about this idea of simplicity | 14:31 |
| pep | in the development team that is | 14:31 |
| pep | phew, don't know what's wrong with my connection today... | 14:36 |
| pep | mpt: I know you're not into the subject, and probably don't have much time, but if you wish you can take a look at my design proposal here http://tinyurl.com/5kue58, it goes aside with the classification system proposal but that's not important... this is a "very quick" mockup http://dicidailleurs.houbsi.org/uploads/file/mockup.png just to show the idea... does it seem ok to you at first look? (it's the first draft) | 14:36 |
| mpt | pep, just by glancing at it, I don't understand what it's for | 14:38 |
| pep | yeah, you've got to be into the subject I suppose :) | 14:38 |
| mpt | A catalogue of marketing documents? | 14:38 |
| pep | yes | 14:38 |
| pep | sort of | 14:38 |
| pep | you can upoad your documents, it is linked with launchpad for translation and review, etc... | 14:39 |
| pep | and this is basically just what the end-user sees on the website, the idea as an upload and a download section only, with a filter search box... keeping it simple | 14:40 |
| pep | but nevermind :) | 14:41 |
| mpt | ok | 14:41 |
| mpt | So just a couple of quick suggestions | 14:41 |
| mpt | You have enough columns that you probably want to use the full page width, so try to get rid of the "Links" column | 14:42 |
| mpt | and also consider whether some of the columns could be replaced by text in a secondary row for each item. | 14:42 |
| pep | I see yes, so not primary classification criteria | 14:43 |
| pep | yes, it's all a bit jammed up | 14:44 |
| pep | I am also wondering if we should do it in this typical ubuntu theme or in the same color scheme as launchpad, but that's not a real question now :) thanks | 14:46 |
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| Rinchen | Hobbsee, I didn't say there would be. I said we're thinking about it. | 15:05 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: ah. i must have misread, sorry. | 15:05 |
| Rinchen | we've been thinking about it for a while actually. I hope we do it. | 15:05 |
| Hobbsee | i hope so too | 15:07 |
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| cprov | wgrant: why ? | 16:23 |
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| jkakar | I miss the 'Simon Says' favicon. The new one is boring. :) | 17:48 |
| jkakar | Also, I'm really enjoying the new user interface... there's a bit of adjustment time going on, as expect with these kinds of changes, but it really is better. | 17:48 |
| pep | I agree in both points :) | 17:56 |
| pep | mpt: I just re-made a mockup, taking care of your suggestions, I didn't take the time to put content in though, but it's not hard to imagine... if you've got a 20 seconds, please take a look and tell me if it's better or not like this: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/692/mockup3ok0.png | 17:58 |
| mpt | pep, +1 | 17:59 |
| pep | thanks ;) | 18:00 |
| stgraber | pep: the search field looks weird, why having it centered ? | 18:03 |
| pep | stgraber: why not | 18:03 |
| pep | ? | 18:03 |
| stgraber | don't know, it's not where I'd look for it :) | 18:04 |
| pep | I put it on the right first, but that made a white gap in the middle, which didn't look nice.. then I thought that we want toimplement openID, so I put the openId on the right and the search in the center... | 18:04 |
| pep | stgraber: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3666/mockup4hr3.png I put it on the right here | 18:05 |
| pep | (and forgot openID I just noticed... not sure where I'd put it...) | 18:06 |
| stgraber | looks better, I guess it's just the habit to see the search field on the top-right corner :) | 18:07 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I like them top left ... | 18:08 |
| pep | well I can put the tabs on the right... | 18:08 |
| pep | that gave me an idea :) | 18:09 |
| pep | LaserJock: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3948/mockup5ax5.png what do you think of this? search bar on the left... but white gap in the middle... | 18:14 |
| LaserJock | pep: I personally like that one the best, but it may be just me | 18:16 |
| pep | ok, thanks for your opinion | 18:16 |
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| oliver_g_ | hi | 19:01 |
| oliver_g_ | is there a way to configure LP so that it by default also shows bugs that are marked as Invalid? | 19:01 |
| LaserJock | oliver_g_: not by default, you'll need to use the advanced search function | 19:09 |
| oliver_g_ | LaserJock: ok, thanks | 19:09 |
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| newz2000 | hi, someone has contacted me about a problem with their launchpad details (they need to change their wiki page). What's the best way for them to ask for help with this? | 20:02 |
| newz2000 | ah, just found it | 20:02 |
| andrea-bs | newz2000: you may find help.launchpad.net/Feedback useful | 20:03 |
| newz2000 | ok. Thanks. | 20:03 |
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| pygi | any way to change appointed project and team name? | 23:08 |
| pygi | (from "cheezeburger" to "cheezburger" :) | 23:08 |
| pygi | and team from cheezeburger-devs to cheezburger-devs :P | 23:09 |
| wgrant | pygi: You can rename a team like any person, but projects must be done through the admins. | 23:09 |
| pygi | oki, thanks wgrant, so gotta bug someone then :) | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | pygi: I can has one? :-) | 23:10 |
| wgrant | pygi: Ask a question at the answers.launchpad.net URL in the topic. | 23:10 |
| pygi | thanks wgrant :) | 23:11 |
| pygi | LaserJock, hehe sure :D | 23:13 |
| LaserJock | mmmmm, chezburgers | 23:13 |
| pygi | it's actually a bzr serving magic =) | 23:15 |
| spm | pygi: that change has been done: https://launchpad.net/cheezburger | 23:24 |
| pygi | spm, saw it already, that was fast :) | 23:24 |
| pygi | thank you :) | 23:24 |
| spm | pygi: my pleasure! | 23:24 |
| emgent | edge.l.o graphic is final ? | 23:27 |
| emgent | s/o/n/ | 23:27 |
| pento | Trying to look at a file in the mysql source on launchpad, it's coming up with an error to report it here. So, here I am. :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1/revision/2512.68.1?filter_file_id=sp1f-mysqlslap.c-20051130000206-7t375hf5mtlqof5xd4nj76yckxvxykhv&file_id=sp1d-client-2kqe24jqdkerkil52x5pqhisz76wzwky | 23:37 |
| mwhudson | oh yes, that kind of request is very very very slow with branches like mysql :( | 23:39 |
| pento | Heh, alrighty. Is there a better way I can browse the source tree, then? Other than checking it out? | 23:40 |
| mwhudson | well, it' | 23:40 |
| mwhudson | s the 'revision touching the given file' that is slow | 23:40 |
| mwhudson | browsing around normally should work | 23:41 |
| pento | Erm, I thought I was browsing normally? From https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1 , click on "Browse code", then click on the "Latest Rev" for any file. | 23:43 |
| mwhudson | oh, that would be a bug | 23:44 |
| mwhudson | ! | 23:45 |
| mwhudson | hm | 23:45 |
| DnaX | hi | 23:53 |
| mwhudson | hi | 23:53 |
| DnaX | I have a problem with pot template for traductions in launchpad (sorry for bad english) | 23:54 |
| DnaX | I upload it but in 5 days is deleted... | 23:55 |
| DnaX | without motive | 23:55 |
| DnaX | so? | 23:56 |
| mwhudson | i'm afraid i don't know much about translations at all | 23:57 |
| mwhudson | danilos: ping? | 23:57 |
| DnaX | mwhudson: ok ;) | 23:58 |
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