[00:01] <Rhamphoryncus> Oh hey, it is done scanning :D
[00:01] <Ursinha> assim?
[00:21] <mpt> ScottK, I'm glad you like Launchpad without CSS, I went to quite a bit of trouble to make that nicer :-)
[00:57] <ScottK> mpt: Now if you could just get Bug #59510 taken care of we'd be in business.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: and when will this miniumal UI actually get implemented?
[02:22] <Hobbsee> geser: you're not alone, re the quick searches.
[02:23] <Hobbsee> geser: some projects are listed as you, along with all other motu's, because some strange nitwit decided to subscribe/assign motu to some non-ubuntu bugs. 
[02:27] <Hobbsee> and while they got marked as invalid / unsubscribed, the damage is still done, and the projects will probably be there, unless the MOTU team dies, or you quit it
[02:27] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: there are a lot of things that are going to get implemented at some point.  But now we don't have a simple UI where people could find stuff, and get stuff done.
[02:29] <LaserJock> well, I can find stuff and get stuff done
[02:29] <LaserJock> it could just be better
[02:39] <emgent> moin
[07:12] <Hobbsee> ARGH!
[07:12]  * Hobbsee is so utterly damned confused now
[07:12] <Hobbsee> how do i get where i want to go?
[07:12] <spiv> Hobbsee: you sound a little... on edge.
[07:13] <spiv> (ba-dum tish!)
[07:13] <Hobbsee> spiv: yeah, i'm attempting to use the bug page.
[07:13]  * Hobbsee wonders why assigned to is smaller than the section for milestone
[07:14] <Hobbsee> spiv: even production won't be safe in a couple of days :(
[07:16]  * Hobbsee gets lost among all the tabs and breadcrums, to the point of finding how to go back to the bug list, from a particular bug, is hard.  :(
[07:17] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: what you don't have the URL memorized? :-)
[07:17] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: i didn't bother using my shortcut, no.
[07:18] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: the new 'features' of that page tend to throw all logic otu the window, leaving a remaining small cry of "i should know how to use this.  i feel stupid.  but it's so confusing"
[07:19] <LaserJock> do we need a Launchpad support group?
[07:19] <Hobbsee> depends how bad the UI gets...
[07:19] <LaserJock> "hi, my name is Jordan and I'm confused by Launchpad, it's been 5 months since I last knew how to use the UI" ;p
[07:20] <Hobbsee> heirachy is really hard, when some of it is breadcrumbs, which is left justified, and some of it is tabs, which is center.
[07:20] <Hobbsee> i can't tell which is more important anymore
[07:20] <nycerine> personally I think the tabs take too much space (if we're into them at the moment)
[07:22] <Hobbsee> i'm just finding the same things in multiple places - or at least, i think they are, but everything keeps changing so much that i don't know what's right and wrong to click anymore, and i can't use a sense of logic, as that would tell me that the functions would all be in a list on the page somewhere - but they're not - they're randomly around the page.  
[07:22] <Hobbsee> So i'm really just going mad.
[07:23] <LaserJock> we knew that already ... ;-)
[07:23] <Hobbsee> yeah well.  mad faster, then.
[07:23] <nycerine> could it be an idea to change the appearance of the tabs?
[07:26] <thekorn> In my opinion the biggest problem is that all pages lost a lot of contrast,
[07:26] <thekorn> there is no clear difference between content and functionality
[07:35] <nycerine> contact details should be on the right of the "most active", "latest memberships" and "bragging rights"
[07:35] <nycerine> it takes up so much space
[07:38] <capiscuas1982> hi everybody, in my launchpad project only the admin can upload files into the project, how to let the drivers also upload?
[07:46] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: try changing ownership of the project to a team that you can add other LP users to
[07:54] <capiscuas1982> james: i'm afraid that giving the ownership of a whole team i'll be giving people right to change the ownership again and kick us out :-)
[07:57] <jamesh> capiscuas1982: well, if you don't trust the people to help you run the project, why would you trust them to add files for download?
[08:10] <capiscuas1982> jamesh: thanks, i've added those that i trust the most in a mantainer group, anyway I wish that launchpad has an option to just control who can upload files without the need of giving full privileges
[08:51] <bca_> hi there,
[08:53] <bca_> i have got a problem with my launchpad account, when I try to log in, it tells me that "This account
[08:53] <bca_> cannot be used". When I got to my project page and click on my username, it tells me that "bertrand.cachet does not use Launchpad".
[08:53] <bca_> I really don't know how to solve this issue,
[08:53] <bca_> I have found no information on google except a web page on ubuntu forum that tells that if we encounters this problem, we should go to IRC to ask for some help
[09:30]  * wgrant prefers the short-lived logo favicon.
[10:39] <bca_> hi, does somebody have information about my problem: I have got the message "This account cannot be used" when I try to login
[10:39] <bca_> ?
[10:44] <wgrant> bca_: You need a Launchpad person to fix your account. I'm not sure that anybody who can fix it is around right now.
[10:44] <bca_> ok
[10:44] <intellectronica> bca_: what's your launchpad username?
[10:44] <Peng> bca_: Did you change your email address? That's one cause.
[10:44] <Peng> Has that been fixed yet?
[10:44] <bca_> bertrand.cachet
[10:45] <bca_> i have this problem for 3 weeks no
[10:45] <bca_> i have readen on ubuntu forums that this problem sometimes appear and disappear
[10:45] <bca_> so i have waited a little bit
[10:45]  * wgrant wonders why all of the accounts weren't fixed at once.
[10:46] <bca_> but now, it is a bit long with no changement
[10:46] <bca_> that's why i ask for some help
[10:46] <intellectronica> bca_: are you sure? i mean that thing that appears at the end of launchpad.net/~yourusername
[10:46] <bca_> have a try if you want
[10:47] <intellectronica> bca_: ah right, found it, it appears with a hyphen in the url
[10:47] <intellectronica> bca_: this has been a recurring problem lately and we're working on fixing it. i'll make sure that someone fixes your account soon
[10:47] <bca_> https://launchpad.net/~bertrand-cachet
[10:48] <bca_> thanks a lot intellectronica
[10:48] <intellectronica> bca_: np. sorry for the inconvenience
[10:48] <bca_> i have added a comment onto the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/245584
[10:48] <bca_> because it is more or less the same
[10:55] <stub> bca_: It is the same, and I've fixed it for you in the database.
[10:56] <stub> There is a code fix already made allowing people to reclaim accounts in this state, but I don't think it is available on the main site yet.
[10:58] <bca_> stub: perfect
[10:58] <bca_> i can now loggin
[10:58] <bca_> thanks a lot
[10:59] <LaserJock> stub: is there no way to spot the problem in the database and fix it automatically?
[11:02] <stub> IIRC it isn't a problem, rather than a fix. These are accounts that have been flagged as unwanted, and now we are paying much more attention to that flag. If the accounts where flagged incorrectly, I have no way of telling them apart from the genuine ones.
[11:04] <wgrant> I thought there was some bogus email address change handling which resulted in them being deactivated...
[11:04] <stub> Maybe - I haven't been following in detail.
[11:05] <wgrant> Or is this not bug #244499 which sinzui was talking about with you?
[12:14] <Laibsch> Hi
[12:14] <Laibsch> we are trying to evaluate Rosetta for gnucash translations
[12:14] <Laibsch> Thank you for the support so far
[12:15] <Laibsch> I am not well-versed in the management of translations at all
[12:15] <Laibsch> I have gotten a question from the current technical maintainer relating to pot, po and the source code itself
[12:16] <Laibsch> Can somebody please point me to some information where I can quickly understand how those three entities relate?
[12:16] <Laibsch> My current understanding: pot equates to a collection of translation tasks
[12:16] <intellectronica> jtv or danilos should be able to help
[12:16] <Laibsch> po is the results where the tasks are finished
[12:17] <Laibsch> how does the source code play into this?
[12:17] <Laibsch> intellectronica: thanks for the pointer to the right people
[12:17] <Laibsch> ping jtv and danilos
[12:21]  * Laibsch is reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettext
[12:21] <Laibsch> and understands much better now
[12:22] <Laibsch> I guess the question is, can rosetta be told to run xgettext to create the .pot file itself?
[12:32] <zeth> Hello, is it possible to checkout code from a launchpad project using subversion? 
[12:33] <intellectronica> zeth: no, you'll have to use bzr
[12:34] <intellectronica> it should be very easy to adjust, though
[12:34] <zeth> well its not that, I like bzr
[12:34] <zeth> it is just that I have a project I want to host
[12:35] <zeth> and it has a few dependencies from else where that are checked out via svn
[12:35] <zeth> so it is nicer if the whole thing works using one client
[12:35] <zeth> also, bzr requires Python 2.4
[12:36] <intellectronica> zeth: maybe import those projects into launchpad?
[12:36] <zeth> Django and docutils?
[12:36] <intellectronica> zeth: why not. it would be good to have those projects in lp. they are both quite popular so i bet many people would benefit from that
[12:37] <zeth> well
[12:37] <zeth> making people require Python 2.4 is still a bit much
[12:37] <intellectronica> zeth: also, there's a bzr plugin to work with subversion repositories. i don't know how good it is, though
[12:37] <zeth> anyhow, I have written a website generation tool
[12:37] <intellectronica> zeth: python 2.4 is nearly 4 years old. what system is that which doesn't have it yet?
[12:38] <zeth> OS X Tiger
[12:38] <intellectronica> really? they don't ship with python 2.4? and is it not possible to upgrade?
[12:38] <zeth> I would like to support as many systems as possible with the lease work for the user as possible
[12:38] <zeth> OS X Leopard ( the latest) comes with 2.5.something
[12:38] <zeth> but OS.X Tiger is not that ols
[12:38] <zeth> old
[12:40] <intellectronica> anyway, nothing much that can be done about this. LP only hosts bzr branches. but you can host subversion or cvs branches elsewhere and have them imported automatically
[12:41] <zeth> So basically, my website generation tool should be usable by less technically saavy users, not just hardcore geeks
[12:42] <zeth> launchpad is nice looking project site, but I don't want to increase the system requirements of my potential users
[12:42] <wgrant> Python 2.4 can't be an increase in requirements on any sane system...
[12:42] <zeth> if bzr allowed one to check out svn by default, that would be more compelling
[12:42] <wgrant> It has been available on everything for years and years!
[12:42] <zeth> wgrant: OS X Tiger is a sane system
[12:43] <wgrant> zeth: The bzr-svn allows you to do that excellently.
[12:43] <wgrant> zeth: Not if it doesn't have Python.
[12:43] <zeth> a lot of Red hat servers also still also have Python 2.3
[12:43] <zeth> OS X Tiger (10.4) came with Python 2.3
[12:43] <zeth> OS X Leopard (10.5) came with Python 2.5
[12:43] <wgrant> But RHEL is implicitly prehistoric... can its Subversion read your repository?
[12:44] <zeth> wgrant: good point
[12:44] <zeth> no idea
[12:44] <intellectronica> on _some_ operating systems, you get upgraded to the latest version of those tools no matter when you first installed it ;)
[12:44] <zeth> My tool is currently on my hard drive and no where else
[12:44] <zeth> yeah on decent OS
[12:44] <zeth> bu on Apple, you get what Apple gives
[12:45] <wgrant> Or you install trivially from python.org...
[12:45] <zeth> and they sadly don't push Python updates down the upgrade tool
[12:45] <zeth> you and I can
[12:45] <zeth> but my website generation tool is aimed at wider audience
[12:46] <intellectronica> zeth: python being free software, you can always bundle it with your app. it's not very big, considering the sizes of downloads people are accustomed to these days
[12:46] <wgrant> If they're building a website and using Subversion (why would they be using a VCS rather than downloading a release?), they can probably install Python too.
[12:46] <zeth> intellectronica: that is true actually
[12:47] <zeth> wgrant: well my manual tells them what commands to paste in
[12:48] <zeth> I was interested in using Launchpad because it is the only open source project hosting site I have seen so far that does not look butt ugly
[12:50] <intellectronica> zeth: hopefully you'll also find it to be powerful and easy to use. give it a try - if you absolutely have to use subversion, you can always host the code elsewhere and have it imported automatically into launchpad
[12:51] <zeth> well, I actually use bzr at the moment for development, but I just want to be able to export the code somehow via subversion
[12:51] <zeth> is there someway of going bzr > launchpad > *somewhere* > subversion ?
[12:51] <wgrant> A more normal situation is to have users download a release, rather than checkout from the likely unstable VCS.
[12:51] <intellectronica> zeth: you can use the bzr svn plugin to do that
[12:52] <wgrant> But intellectronica is correct - bzr-svn will let you push to a Subversion repository.
[12:52] <zeth> wgrant: it would, but the deps change too much
[12:52] <wgrant> zeth: How does a VCS help that?
[12:52] <zeth> wgrant: and i am lazy, I don't want to go and find out how to package for OS X and Windows
[12:53] <zeth> well, I get the users to have a project directory
[12:53] <wgrant> A tarball?
[12:53] <wgrant> No worse than a VCS checkout.
[12:53] <zeth> which has inside the deps and my app
[12:53] <zeth> they can just use svn up
[12:54] <zeth> wgrant: maybe a tarball
[12:54] <zeth> but I don't want to distribute the deps
[12:54] <zeth> I think my current approach is okay compromise
[12:56] <zeth> so bzr-svn is pushing from my local computer to subversion repositry?
[12:56] <zeth> not from launchpad?
[12:58] <intellectronica> zeth: correct
[12:58] <LarstiQ> zeth: hello :)
[12:59] <zeth> Hi!
[13:01] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[13:01] <LarstiQ> zeth: I thought you might be the same person who asked for session chairs at EP, and indeed, I still only know 1 zeth so far ;)
[13:02] <wgrant> Evening mpt.
[13:03] <emgent> heya wgrant :)
[13:03] <mpt> wgrant, how went the bug reporting?
[13:03] <emgent> someone know why some task opened and some nominated ?
[13:03] <emgent> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/+bug/248674
[13:04] <emgent> weird.
[13:04] <zeth> LarstiQ: same zeth
[13:04] <zeth> I only know 1 zeth also
[13:04] <wgrant> emgent: You probably only have privileges over the Dapper and Feisty versions.
[13:04] <wgrant> Indeed, it is in main in Hardy and Gutsy.
[13:04] <emgent> wgrant: i'm motu.
[13:04] <zeth> if one can actually know oneself
[13:04] <\sh> emgent: IMHO ffmpeg is now main, and not universe/multiverse anymore
[13:04] <wgrant> So you have no privilege.s
[13:05] <emgent> argh
[13:05] <zeth> LarstiQ: who are you, I can't guess from your username sorry
[13:05] <emgent> ok nice.
[13:05] <emgent> and ffmpeg-free is in universe
[13:05] <emgent> true ?
[13:06] <emgent> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ffmpeg
[13:06] <emgent> i saw universe.
[13:06] <LarstiQ> zeth: you asked on Sunday evening in the Reval lobby iirc, I was sitting at a table with Tommi Virtanen and Chris Scholz. Oh, and I declined chairing due to possible video recording and Guido's slide turning.
[13:06] <\sh> intrepid  	development  	main  	release  	3:0.svn20080206-8ubuntu1   	 None defined   
[13:07] <\sh> emgent: also main
[13:07] <emgent> ok thanks \sh 
[13:07] <\sh> emgent: talk to siretart :)
[13:07] <wgrant> emgent: Don't use packages.ubuntu.com - it's often out of date, wrong, or generally misleading.
[13:08] <wgrant> cprov: I don't like this new link to the .changes on PPAs...
[13:08] <carlos> hi
[13:08] <zeth> LarstiQ: ah yes, I remember
[13:08] <carlos> mpt: ping
[13:08] <zeth> some of the organisation was a bit just-in-time
[13:08]  * Hobbsee waves
[13:08] <Hobbsee> wgrant: is this the one i couldnt' find a few days ago?
[13:09] <LarstiQ> zeth: quite :)
[13:09] <wgrant> Hobbsee: It's the one that you shouldn't be able to find at all, lest horrible horrible things happen.
[13:09] <geser> emgent: check the source package and not a binary one, as source can be in main but the binary in universe
[13:09] <zeth> lots of assumptions seem to have been made about who was organising what
[13:09] <Hobbsee> wgrant: oh, lovely.  i wonder where it is now..
[13:10] <zeth> I think people assumed the Lithuanians knew telepathically what had happened in previous years
[13:10] <geser> Hi Hobbsee
[13:10] <Hobbsee> heya geser 
[13:10] <zeth> this was my first europython also
[13:10] <emgent> geser: thanks 
[13:10] <Hobbsee> wgrant: WOW.  classy on oh so many levels.
[13:10] <zeth> next year is different because it follows on from  UK events in the same venue
[13:11] <Hobbsee> that really is....spectacularly good.
[13:11] <zeth> so everyone *should* know what to do hopefully
[13:11] <wgrant> Ah.
[13:11] <wgrant> It's only for one's own uploads.
[13:11] <wgrant> But still revealing.
[13:11] <Hobbsee> well it would be nice if they removed the typo, too
[13:12] <wgrant> Which?
[13:12] <Hobbsee> well, 'changesfile' is usually spelt as 'changes file'
[13:12] <wgrant> The absence of space is not just there - I presume it to be intentional.
[13:13] <wgrant> (it's on normal SPR pages as well)
[13:13] <Hobbsee> it's still a bug - launchpad really should be aiming for readable, and giving correct english.
[13:14] <wgrant> I'm never sure how to best phrase it. changes file? .changes? change file? Urgh.
[13:14] <Hobbsee> changes file, i'd expect.
[13:14] <Hobbsee> seeing as there are usually multiple changes
[13:14] <wgrant> I guess so.
[13:22] <siretart> \sh: ?
[13:22] <\sh> siretart: ffmpeg and security -> emgent :) 
[13:23] <emgent> siretart: check your mail
[13:23] <emgent> :)
[13:28] <zeth> okay, so I provide bzr checkout through a launchpad site, and I use the bzr-svn thing to mirror the repo somewhere
[13:31] <zeth> I think it would be better if launchpad exported in several formats, but the bzr svn thing should work
[13:43] <mpt> Hobbsee, there is no minimal UI planned
[13:43] <mpt> but we're publishing APIs to let people write their own clients
[13:43] <Hobbsee> mpt: why did Rinchen say there would be, then?
[13:44] <mpt> and their own interfaces
[13:48] <pep> Hi
[13:48] <pep> I'm just wondering if it is my browser that bugs or if there is no more drop down menu in the new UI... ?
[13:49] <pep> when you hover on the launchpad button on the left
[13:49] <pep> in edge
[13:49] <andrea-bs> pep: this is the expected behavior
[13:49] <pep> thank you.
[13:50] <wgrant> How does one navigate now?
[13:50] <Hobbsee> one memorises all the URL's?
[13:50] <pep> then I wonder... how do you access /people, /projects, /sprints or /distros ?
[13:50] <wgrant> How does one discover the URLs without checking the source or pre-1.0?
[13:50] <wgrant> pep: Magic, see.
[13:51] <wgrant> mpt: Any ideas?
[13:51] <pep> you have to do a fake search or click on register to get the menu on the right as far as I found out ...
[13:51] <Hobbsee> why are there no links back to launchpad.net, at all?
[13:51] <pep> which is not realy very handy when you're loking for a team, person or interested on sprints (as project search is on the front page)
[13:52] <pep> Hobbsee: click on the top-left launchpad icon
[13:52] <pep> should go back to launchpad.net
[13:52] <Hobbsee> pep: i did.  it doesn't.
[13:52] <wgrant> Hobbsee: Does it go to the application home?
[13:52] <mpt> Hobbsee, I'm fixing that today
[13:52] <Hobbsee> and why does https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/ get a "Projects" breadcrumb, yet the others don't?
[13:52] <Hobbsee> mpt: oh goody
[13:52] <pep> Hobbsee: the others do here :/
[13:53] <wgrant> PillarNames stuffing up the context? How odd.
[13:57] <pep> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/172727 this is the bug in question.
[13:57] <pep> and taht was with the drop-down menu...
[13:58] <mpt> pep, I did a fix yesterday that provides access to /people
[13:58] <pep> Oh right
[13:58] <pep> is it already in staging?
[13:58] <mpt> pep, /sprints can be accessed from the Blueprints front page ("Show all sprints and meetings") -- that's not obvious, but it's about as obvious as the menu was
[13:59] <mpt> Can you give an example of why you'd want to go to /projects or /distros that doesn't involve searching for one?
[14:00] <pep> well /projects is ok, but when you search for a distro, what do you do?
[14:00] <pep> search for it in the projects search box?
[14:01] <pep> I actually had the problem when I wanted to search for a person/team
[14:02] <pep> but you say it's fiwed so not a problem anymore
[14:02] <pep> I just thought if someone wants to search for a distro he'll have the same problem.
[14:03] <mpt> pep, yes, for example <https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/?text=debian>
[14:03] <pep> ok I see
[14:04] <pep> i suppose from a launchpad point of view a distro is a project
[14:05] <pep> thanks for the info
[14:05] <mpt> pep, we do treat distributions specially (that's why it has a different icon in those search results), but we recognize that people shouldn't need to go to a different page before searching for them
[14:05] <pep> yes
[14:06] <wgrant> mpt: So to search for a distro, one can use the project search, but to add a distro bugtask one cannot use the project button?
[14:06] <pep> I suppose someone who is not familiar with the project will first search for it as a project so it's ok
[14:09] <mpt> wgrant, nag your friendly local Launchpad Bugs developer to fix bug 1334
[14:09] <mpt> wgrant, but that that bug isn't fixed yet isn't a reason to make searching for distributions more difficult.
[14:09] <wgrant> After that long? I doubt it.
[14:09] <wgrant> Although I did see that bug #7 is targetted to 1.99..
[14:10] <wgrant> mpt: Gecko 1.9's zoom functionality introduces significant artifacts in the new LP header.
[14:10] <wgrant> This is probably a bad thing.
[14:11] <mpt> wgrant, also on my list for fixing today (it's worse in FF2)
[14:11] <pep> Oh, and I had an unimportant question, just informative, how are projects selected to be in the "Featured projects" list on the main page? Just 17 most active/major projects?
[14:11] <wgrant> mpt: So I saw.
[14:11] <mpt> oh?
[14:11] <wgrant> mpt: The FF2 thing.
[14:12] <mpt> When did you see it?
[14:12] <wgrant> You filed a bug about it.
[14:13] <mpt> well, sure
[14:13] <mpt> pep, I don't know the answer to that sorry. I know the choice is manual, though.
[14:14] <pep> Ok, I guess it's just the most notorious projects.. only wondering :)
[14:15] <Hobbsee> aiee aiee aieee
[14:15] <mpt> pep, and to answer your earlier question, no, the People fix is not on staging yet
[14:15] <Hobbsee> mpt: where do i nominate things for releases now?
[14:15] <Hobbsee> can i?
[14:16]  * Hobbsee is attempting *not* to use the page find.
[14:16] <mpt> Hobbsee, erm, I'm pretty sure that hasn't changed at all
[14:16] <wgrant> Hobbsee: Right underneath the task table.
[14:16] <wgrant> Right-hand link.
[14:16] <Hobbsee> oh
[14:16] <Hobbsee> mpt: i probalby haven't used it since it moved otu of the actions menu
[14:16] <mpt> ah
[14:26] <pep> mpt: I am working on a website, a repository of marketing resources and artwork for ubuntu, via the marketing team, and I am very concerned about UI and usability... I just watched your Usability.odp and found it very interesting!
[14:26] <pep> :query linuxcrypt
[14:26] <pep> oops
[14:30] <pep> back, sorry about that.
[14:31] <mpt> pep, heh, I'd forgotten about that
[14:31] <mpt> That was a quick talk I gave at UDS in Boston
[14:31] <pep> yes I liked it very much because I am precisely trying to make my point about this idea of simplicity
[14:31] <pep> in the development team that is
[14:36] <pep> phew, don't know what's wrong with my connection today...
[14:36] <pep> mpt: I know you're not into the subject, and probably don't have much time, but if you wish you can take a look at my design proposal here http://tinyurl.com/5kue58, it goes aside with the classification system proposal but that's not important... this is a "very quick" mockup http://dicidailleurs.houbsi.org/uploads/file/mockup.png just to show the idea... does it seem ok to you at first look? (it's the first draft)
[14:38] <mpt> pep, just by glancing at it, I don't understand what it's for
[14:38] <pep> yeah, you've got to be into the subject I suppose :)
[14:38] <mpt> A catalogue of marketing documents?
[14:38] <pep> yes
[14:38] <pep> sort of
[14:39] <pep> you can upoad your documents, it is linked with launchpad for translation and review, etc... 
[14:40] <pep> and this is basically just what the end-user sees on the website, the idea as an upload and a download section only, with a filter search box... keeping it simple
[14:41] <pep> but nevermind :)
[14:41] <mpt> ok
[14:41] <mpt> So just a couple of quick suggestions
[14:42] <mpt> You have enough columns that you probably want to use the full page width, so try to get rid of the "Links" column
[14:42] <mpt> and also consider whether some of the columns could be replaced by text in a secondary row for each item.
[14:43] <pep> I see yes, so not primary classification criteria
[14:44] <pep> yes, it's all a bit jammed up
[14:46] <pep> I am also wondering if we should do it in this typical ubuntu theme or in the same color scheme as launchpad, but that's not a real question now :) thanks
[15:05] <Rinchen> Hobbsee, I didn't say there would be.  I said we're thinking about it.
[15:05] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: ah.  i must have misread, sorry.
[15:05] <Rinchen> we've been thinking about it for a while actually.  I hope we do it.
[15:07] <Hobbsee> i hope so too
[16:23] <cprov> wgrant: why ?
[17:48] <jkakar> I miss the 'Simon Says' favicon.  The new one is boring. :)
[17:48] <jkakar> Also, I'm really enjoying the new user interface... there's a bit of adjustment time going on, as expect with these kinds of changes, but it really is better.
[17:56] <pep> I agree in both points :)
[17:58] <pep> mpt: I just re-made a mockup, taking care of your suggestions, I didn't take the time to put content in though, but it's not hard to imagine... if you've got a 20 seconds, please take a look and tell me if it's better or not like this: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/692/mockup3ok0.png
[17:59] <mpt> pep, +1
[18:00] <pep> thanks ;)
[18:03] <stgraber> pep: the search field looks weird, why having it centered ?
[18:03] <pep> stgraber: why not
[18:03] <pep> ?
[18:04] <stgraber> don't know, it's not where I'd look for it :)
[18:04] <pep> I put it on the right first, but that made a white gap in the middle, which didn't look nice.. then I thought that we want toimplement openID, so I put the openId on the right and the search in the center...
[18:05] <pep> stgraber: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3666/mockup4hr3.png I put it on the right here
[18:06] <pep> (and forgot openID I just noticed... not sure where I'd put it...)
[18:07] <stgraber> looks better, I guess it's just the habit to see the search field on the top-right corner :)
[18:08] <LaserJock> hmm, I like them top left ...
[18:08] <pep> well I can put the tabs on the right...
[18:09] <pep> that gave me an idea :)
[18:14] <pep> LaserJock: http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3948/mockup5ax5.png what do you think of this? search bar on the left... but white gap in the middle...
[18:16] <LaserJock> pep: I personally like that one the best, but it may be just me
[18:16] <pep> ok, thanks for your opinion
[19:01] <oliver_g_> hi
[19:01] <oliver_g_> is there a way to configure LP so that it by default also shows bugs that are marked as Invalid?
[19:09] <LaserJock> oliver_g_: not by default, you'll need to use the advanced search function
[19:09] <oliver_g_> LaserJock: ok, thanks
[20:02] <newz2000> hi, someone has contacted me about a problem with their launchpad details (they need to change their wiki page). What's the best way for them to ask for help with this?
[20:02] <newz2000> ah, just found it
[20:03] <andrea-bs> newz2000: you may find help.launchpad.net/Feedback useful
[20:03] <newz2000> ok. Thanks.
[23:08] <pygi> any way to change appointed project and team name?
[23:08] <pygi> (from "cheezeburger" to "cheezburger" :)
[23:09] <pygi> and team from cheezeburger-devs to cheezburger-devs :P
[23:09] <wgrant> pygi: You can rename a team like any person, but projects must be done through the admins.
[23:10] <pygi> oki, thanks wgrant, so gotta bug someone then :)
[23:10] <LaserJock> pygi: I can has one? :-)
[23:10] <wgrant> pygi: Ask a question at the answers.launchpad.net URL in the topic.
[23:11] <pygi> thanks wgrant :)
[23:13] <pygi> LaserJock, hehe sure :D
[23:13] <LaserJock> mmmmm, chezburgers
[23:15] <pygi> it's actually a bzr serving magic =)
[23:24] <spm> pygi: that change has been done: https://launchpad.net/cheezburger
[23:24] <pygi> spm, saw it already, that was fast :)
[23:24] <pygi> thank you :)
[23:24] <spm> pygi: my pleasure!
[23:27] <emgent> edge.l.o graphic is final ?
[23:27] <emgent> s/o/n/
[23:37] <pento> Trying to look at a file in the mysql source on launchpad, it's coming up with an error to report it here. So, here I am. :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1/revision/2512.68.1?filter_file_id=sp1f-mysqlslap.c-20051130000206-7t375hf5mtlqof5xd4nj76yckxvxykhv&file_id=sp1d-client-2kqe24jqdkerkil52x5pqhisz76wzwky
[23:39] <mwhudson> oh yes, that kind of request is very very very slow with branches like mysql :(
[23:40] <pento> Heh, alrighty. Is there a better way I can browse the source tree, then? Other than checking it out?
[23:40] <mwhudson> well, it'
[23:40] <mwhudson> s the 'revision touching the given file' that is slow
[23:41] <mwhudson> browsing around normally should work
[23:43] <pento> Erm, I thought I was browsing normally? From https://code.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.1 , click on "Browse code", then click on the "Latest Rev" for any file.
[23:44] <mwhudson> oh, that would be a bug
[23:45] <mwhudson> !
[23:45] <mwhudson> hm
[23:53] <DnaX> hi
[23:53] <mwhudson> hi
[23:54] <DnaX> I have a problem with pot template for traductions in launchpad (sorry for bad english)
[23:55] <DnaX> I upload it but in 5 days is deleted...
[23:55] <DnaX> without motive
[23:56] <DnaX> so?
[23:57] <mwhudson> i'm afraid i don't know much about translations at all
[23:57] <mwhudson> danilos: ping?
[23:58] <DnaX> mwhudson: ok ;)