[01:49] <Rocket2DMn> RAOF, are you available?
[04:52] <snadge> brasero sucks
[04:52] <snadge> anyone else tried to use it to copy a cdrom to an iso file?
[04:55] <pwnguin> what for?
[04:56] <pwnguin> in all cases I can think of but one, simple file copies suffice
[05:05] <snadge> to upload to a virtual machine
[05:06] <snadge> basically im ripping an xp cd and uploading it to an esx server ;)
[05:06] <snadge> and brasero is choking on donkey doodle
[05:06] <snadge> i think it may be due to a read error though.. at least k3b was nice enough to inform me about it and complete the operation that i requested
[05:07] <snadge> as much as i love gnome.. i hate how kde has _some_ better applications ;)
[05:15] <pwnguin> ah well, k3b is quite nice
[05:15] <pwnguin> brasero is getting better, but theres no need to get angry when you can do what you want
[05:17] <LaserJock> I actually don't particularly care for k3b
[05:17] <snadge> neither do i.. i'd love to use brasero
[05:17] <snadge> if it didnt suck every time i tried to use it
[05:18] <snadge> a different bug
[05:18] <snadge> and k3b works like a champion
[05:18] <pwnguin> the only thing i dont like about k3b is that it seems to want to single click open
[05:19] <pwnguin> theres no good way to select things, i think it's a kde setting that i dont have by way of not installing kubuntu
[05:19] <snadge> the only thing i dont like about k3b, is that it depends on kde and uses qt ;)
[05:19] <pwnguin> qq
[05:19] <pwnguin> in the era of 1GB minimum vista machines, i think we can afford both qt and gtk
[05:19] <LaserJock> I don't like it's UI
[05:20] <snadge> what i do like about k3b.. is that its difficult to fault it, technically
[05:20] <snadge> ok so its interface is a bit iffy, but at least it works
[05:23] <pwnguin> brasero's UI is kinda spartan
[05:23] <pwnguin> (and expects users to read)
[07:06] <Rocket2DMn> when confirming requests for package version upgrades in intrepid, do i just mark it as confirmed/wishlist and let the package managers find the bug report, or do i need to subscribe the MOTUs or package archive admins?
[07:06] <Rocket2DMn> (not necessarily sync/merge requests)
[07:06] <Hobbsee> don't subscribe the motu!!!!
[07:06] <Rocket2DMn> lol ok
[07:06] <Rocket2DMn> thats why i ask
[07:06] <Hobbsee> or the package archive admins
[07:07] <Hobbsee> i will personally come and stab you if you do.
[07:07] <Rocket2DMn> haha alright, so dont assign anybody, just confirm and wishlist the reports?
[07:07] <LaserJock> down Hobbsee down! ;-)
[07:07] <Rocket2DMn> not necessarily assign, but subscribe
[07:07] <Hobbsee> every time the team 'motu' gets subscribed / assigned to a bug, *many* kittens die.
[07:07] <Hobbsee> yup
[07:07] <LaserJock> we don't need any stabbings around here ;-)
[07:07] <Rocket2DMn> yup re: dont subscribe or assign?
[07:08] <Hobbsee> correct.
[07:08] <Rocket2DMn> that makes life easy
[07:08] <Hobbsee> if you were to assign, or subscribe the motu, you'd be spamming...what is it...50+ people in one hit?
[07:08] <Rocket2DMn> i didnt think i needed to, just wanted to check, thanks
[07:08] <Hobbsee> most who really don't care about the package at all
[07:08] <LaserJock> Hobbsee: more like 100 people
[07:08] <Hobbsee> you may also want to file a request in the debian bugtracker, too
[07:08] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: ahh.  i thought my number was low
[07:09] <LaserJock> and considering we have like 10k bugs in Universe that'd be a whole lot of bugmail ;-)
[07:09] <Rocket2DMn> Hobbsee, you  mean for requests that arent for merges/syncs?
[07:09] <Rocket2DMn> ex: bug 246822
[07:09] <Hobbsee> Rocket2DMn: yes
[07:10] <Rocket2DMn> do you have a link to the debian bugtracker handy?
[07:10] <Hobbsee> wait
[07:10] <Hobbsee> not for that particular package, it's nto in debian
[07:10] <Hobbsee> or rmadison lies
[07:11] <Hobbsee> bugs.debian.org, iirc.
[07:11] <Hobbsee> so i *wouldn't* file that one in debian :)
[07:11] <Hobbsee> Rocket2DMn: if you've got a special interest in it, poke fta on irc
[07:12] <Hobbsee> who looks like the last uploader
[07:12]  * LaserJock stabs Fortran in the heart and watches with glee as it slowly dies a horrible death
[07:13] <Rocket2DMn> Hobbsee, where do you see that? you looking at the changelog?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> Rocket2DMn: yeah - right hand pane of that bug
[07:14] <Rocket2DMn> uhhh is that something only on edge?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> oh.  scroll down
[07:14] <Hobbsee> i think it moved in edge, to the top
[07:14] <Hobbsee> "prism" source package in ubuntu
[07:14] <Hobbsee> it's titled ^
[07:14] <Hobbsee> on the url ubottu gave
[07:15] <Rocket2DMn> oh i didnt have that expanded
[07:15] <Rocket2DMn> got it
[07:15] <Rocket2DMn> i only need to ping the last uploader if i need something special right?
[07:16] <Hobbsee> well, feel free to ask if they've got plans to update it
[07:16] <Hobbsee> they may already know about it - people often subscribe to packages they're interested in
[07:17] <Rocket2DMn> thats a pain to contact all the previous uploaders
[07:17] <Rocket2DMn> (the previous for each bug that is)
[07:17] <Rocket2DMn> if they are subscribed to it, shouldnt they get the bug report sub anyway?
[07:20] <Rocket2DMn> Hobbsee, how did you determine if the package was available in the debian repos? did you just search for it on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages ?
[07:20] <Hobbsee> Rocket2DMn: there's a tool called rmadison in devscripts - i used that
[07:21] <Rocket2DMn> ah i already have that package, thanks
[07:22] <LaserJock> Rocket2DMn: remember to use rmadison -u debian <pkgname> to get the Debian versions
[07:23] <Rocket2DMn> thanks LaserJock
[07:24] <Rocket2DMn> OK then, so for bug 246823 - that package IS available in debian unstable
[07:26] <Rocket2DMn> should i just respond with something like "Please sync version 2.10-1 from debian unstable" and confirm/wishlist ?
[07:57] <aplund> Does anyone know how to get debugging symbols for libc?
[07:58] <aplund> I have libc-dbgsym and libc6-dev-dbgsym installed
[07:59] <aplund> but valgrind doesn't give useful info for libc stuff
[09:17] <dasy2k1> anyone else finding that clicking on a link in konqueror tries to download the page and asks if you want to save or open with kate?
[11:05] <cool> can anyone check Bug 232070
[11:14] <afflux> cool: looking
[11:14] <cool> Thanks, i hope i made all information available
[11:16] <thekorn> hi afflux, I missed you 'good morning' today ;)
[11:16] <afflux> duh
[11:17] <afflux> good morning :)
[11:17] <thekorn> hehe
[11:18] <thekorn> thanks, this made my day
[11:19] <afflux> *yay* ^^
[11:19] <afflux> cool: yes you did, but looking at the kernel source, hardy has 2.6.24 where the fix is included
[11:20] <cool> k
[11:20] <afflux> I'll add that to the report
[11:28] <cool> afflux, any workaround?
[11:29] <afflux> cool: you're on hardy right? If it does not work, the patch either wasn't correct or you're having experiencing issue. Unfortunately I'm not a kernel guy so I don't really know what's the problem
[11:29] <afflux> cool: you could try whether the bug Leann posted is of any help
[11:29] <cool> k
[11:30]  * cool checks
[11:39] <cool> afflux, Check my comment
[11:40] <afflux> cool, hm, I've no idea then, sorry
[11:40] <mouz> mvo: Would you care to have a glance at question 38063? It is about update-manager hanging; probably caused by an error in the local network configuration. I cannot reproduce it, in spite of having read a lot of seemingly related questions and bugs. I'm reaching the point to advise the user to reinstall ubuntu. Maybe you see the root cause and an easy solution very quickly. I don't think the user is confident to do things like editing network settings fro
[11:41] <cool> afflux, no problem :)
[11:43] <cool> mouz, bug 248010 is also similar
[11:43] <mouz> cool: read it :)
[11:43] <mouz> cool: I mean I have been reading it :) thanks
[11:44] <cool> :)
[12:02] <mvo> mouz: sure, let me have  a look
[15:53] <bddebian> Boo
[15:54] <bahadunn> yikes
[16:32] <sectech> Would bug #248730 be classified as an invalid?
[16:33] <sectech> Hmm actually I can answer my own question.... I'll direct the reporter to the discussion groups
[16:34] <Hobbsee> yeah, that's a definite invalid bug
[16:34] <Hobbsee> u-d-d is probably a reasonable place for that discussion
[16:35] <Hobbsee> not that it'll actually help, or anything
[16:36] <Pici> bug 100000
[16:37] <Hobbsee> haha, yes
[16:37] <Pici> Mark it as a duplicate? :D
[16:38] <Hobbsee> well, one relates to ubuntu, and another relates to launchpad
[16:38] <Hobbsee> but either way...
[17:11] <yuriy> hi all! who's here for Hug Day?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> I'm working on a Bug #137628, which the reporter also reported to Abiword bugzilla. They are not working it,
[17:25] <charlie-tca> and it is from 20077-09-05. Do I request information from Abiword or the reporter?
[17:53] <yuriy> anybody working on KDE3->4 hug day, let me know if you need something tested in Intrepid
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Oh, well. I confirmed the bug because upstream did accept it.
[18:59] <yuriy> Awsoonn: please mark bugs off on the hug day page when you work on them. thanks for helping!
[19:00]  * Awsoonn blinks
[19:00] <Awsoonn> did I work on one today? :p
[19:00] <yuriy> I was looking at bug 66159
[19:02] <Awsoonn> ah, yes. Sorry about that~
[20:02] <mouz> Bug 179796 was filed 2008-01-02. Moinmoin 1.7 is in intrepid. Should the status be set to Won't Fix?