| nxvl | what is this distro spint about? i have read it in several places | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| nxvl | is it the developers sprint? | 00:07 |
| nxvl | jcastro: ? | 00:07 |
| kostmo | Is anyone available to review my last release of pyrocket? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pyrocket | 00:20 |
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| === nhandler is now known as nhandler_AFK | ||
| === nhandler_AFK is now known as nhandler | ||
| NCommander | trying to build qemu with --static == painful | 02:02 |
| NCommander | HPPA really has a painfully slow autobuilder | 02:13 |
| === leleobhz is now known as metilfenidato | ||
| === metilfenidato is now known as alprazolam | ||
| === alprazolam is now known as metilfenidato | ||
| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:30 |
| === metilfenidato is now known as leleobhz | ||
| Drk_Guy | Hi guys! | 03:09 |
| Drk_Guy | As far as i know, Launchpad stored my public key, where is it stored, so i can give my users my key | 03:10 |
| NCommander | ScottK, RAOF ping? | 03:19 |
| emgent | moin NCommander | 03:21 |
| NCommander | morning emgent | 03:21 |
| NCommander | which makes me question, are you a MOTU? | 03:21 |
| NCommander | (or better) | 03:21 |
| emgent | NCommander: yeah I'm MOTU | 03:22 |
| NCommander | care to sponsor a project? | 03:24 |
| emgent | NCommander: what project? | 03:25 |
| NCommander | Er, not a project, package | 03:37 |
| NCommander | emgent, a FTBFS fix :-) | 03:37 |
| emgent | yes I can sponsor | 03:40 |
| emgent | NCommander: Bugs number ? | 03:40 |
| NCommander | adding now | 03:40 |
| * NCommander disables edge | 03:40 | |
| NCommander | Its being buggy for me | 03:40 |
| emgent | NCommander: if you need sponsor, feel free to subscribe u-u-s and me too. | 03:42 |
| NCommander | Yeah, I ping IRC though just to prevent spamming u-u-s unnecessary | 03:43 |
| NCommander | emgent, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblunar/+bug/248579 | 03:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 248579 in liblunar "FTBFS fix" [Undecided,New] | 03:44 |
| NCommander | For some reason, the debdiff got attached twice O_O; | 03:44 |
| emgent | i will take a look | 03:44 |
| NCommander | thank you | 03:45 |
| emgent | np :) | 03:45 |
| NCommander | Any idea how to get scratchbox to work with a non-ARM target? | 03:46 |
| emgent | just time for build and test it. | 03:46 |
| * NCommander looks forward to that eventual day in the distant future that he'll have MOTU | 03:47 | |
| emgent | :) | 03:48 |
| NCommander | I'm debating giving up userland emulation and simply install qemu in system emulation | 03:49 |
| NCommander | er, sparc-ubuntu | 03:49 |
| bddebian | The versioning scheme is supposed to stick for main packages too isn't it? | 03:50 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Versioning is no different main/universe. | 03:52 |
| NCommander | bddebian, hola | 03:52 |
| bddebian | Hi NCommander, ScottK | 03:54 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Thanks. Then explain gdebi to me :-( | 03:55 |
| emgent | hi ScottK bddebian | 03:55 |
| bddebian | I realize it's native but now I'm at a loss what to do in Debian :-( | 03:55 |
| ScottK | bddebian: My usual interactions with gdebi start with apt-get remove. | 03:55 |
| NCommander | bddebian, I'm fixing FTBFSs by the bucket load | 03:55 |
| bddebian | Heya emgent, congratulations1 :) | 03:56 |
| bddebian | NCommander: Great | 03:56 |
| bddebian | s/1/!/ | 03:56 |
| emgent | bddebian: lol thanks | 03:56 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Aye :) | 03:56 |
| emgent | hhahaha | 03:56 |
| * NCommander installs Sparc Ubuntu | 03:57 | |
| NCommander | emgent, how goes it | 03:58 |
| ScottK | bddebian: Is the issue that gdebi is Ubuntu unique, but doesn't have an ubuntu revision? | 03:58 |
| emgent | NCommander: processing.. | 03:59 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Well sort of. Amaya asked me to take a look at it but if I update Debian it would be 0.3.6 ideally which Ubuntu couldn't sync obviously. | 03:59 |
| bddebian | If I take from ubuntu (which would make sense) I would have to go to 0.3.11+ | 03:59 |
| ScottK | Why can't it be 0.3.12? | 03:59 |
| bddebian | That might be the answer it just doesn't seem right to jump so many versions in 1 upload for a "native" package but I suppose that is the answer | 04:00 |
| soren | Why not 0.3.11debian1? | 04:01 |
| soren | Or... Will there actually be a delta? | 04:02 |
| bddebian | I don't know where the fsck a debian1 version ever even came from | 04:02 |
| NCommander | bddebian, your moving nicely along the DD process | 04:03 |
| bddebian | I am? | 04:03 |
| ScottK | Debian doesn't typically have a good sense of humor about being downstream from Ubuntu. | 04:03 |
| soren | bddebian: First answer me this: Is there going to be a delta? | 04:03 |
| NCommander | What's sad is our packages get lintian fixes because out MOTUs are willing to work on it | 04:03 |
| bddebian | A delta from whom? | 04:03 |
| ScottK | intrepid/unstable at the very least. | 04:03 |
| soren | bddebian: Ubuntu. | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Probably considering there are so many damn bugs on the BTS | 04:04 |
| NCommander | w00t, I got past the frontdesk check | 04:04 |
| bddebian | I know of at least 3 language patches | 04:04 |
| bddebian | NCommander: Congrats | 04:04 |
| NCommander | m68k/hurd porter - ok | 04:05 |
| bddebian | ScottK: Debian has little sense of humor period ;-P | 04:05 |
| soren | bddebian: Maybe I'm not entirely clear on the story involved here. Is Ubuntu effectively the upstream? | 04:05 |
| NCommander | I've got to be the first person to ever get in as a hurd porter :-) | 04:05 |
| bddebian | soren: Not from my perception but I cannot honestly answer that | 04:05 |
| bddebian | If they are then it makes more sense | 04:05 |
| bddebian | Stupid ass native packages | 04:06 |
| soren | bddebian: Hm... Well, then I'm not sure at all. | 04:06 |
| soren | bddebian: A few things come into play: | 04:06 |
| soren | bddebian: First: Is there going to be a delta? If not, just upload the package as-is. | 04:06 |
| soren | bddebian: If yes, and if Ubuntu is effectively the upstream, I don't see what's wrong with a 0.3.11debian1 version number. | 04:07 |
| soren | bddebian: regardless of presence/absence of sense of humour. | 04:07 |
| soren | Or a 0.3.11-1, I guess. | 04:08 |
| bddebian | To me it has nothing to do with sense of humor, it just isn't a versioning I have ever seen Debian use up until this package | 04:08 |
| soren | I'm rather sure I've seen it before. | 04:08 |
| bddebian | I'm not even sure it's policy compliant | 04:08 |
| * soren looks | 04:08 | |
| * NCommander thinks emgent needs a new PC ... | 04:09 | |
| emgent | ? | 04:10 |
| NCommander | Is your computer still building liblunar? | 04:10 |
| emgent | my flybook v5 rocks! | 04:10 |
| emgent | NCommander nope, check your mail :) | 04:10 |
| bddebian | Hmm, it looks as though Ubuntu is "upstream" for gdebi | 04:10 |
| NCommander | I don't need instructions to know how to rock! | 04:10 |
| emgent | NCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds | 04:11 |
| NCommander | and away it goes | 04:11 |
| NCommander | It successfully built on a bunch of archs, so I got to say thats progress | 04:11 |
| emgent | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblunar/1.0.0-1ubuntu1/ | 04:12 |
| NCommander | and with that, I just dropped the amd64 ftbfs count under 100 ;-) | 04:12 |
| bddebian | And mvo is a DD and isn't lool a DD too? | 04:12 |
| soren | bddebian: Yes, they are. | 04:12 |
| bddebian | WTF | 04:12 |
| NCommander | What's the WTF? | 04:13 |
| soren | bddebian: The current version of gdebi in Debian has such a version number... | 04:13 |
| soren | In fact, there are plenty of examples of packages that have "debian" in their version number. | 04:13 |
| soren | 273 of them. | 04:14 |
| bddebian | soren: I'm aware of that, as I said its the first I have seen. Not that, that means anything | 04:14 |
| bddebian | native packages are suppose to have versions only not even a revision but whatever | 04:14 |
| soren | bddebian: Oh, I thought my suggesting it was the first you've seen. | 04:14 |
| bddebian | :) | 04:15 |
| NCommander | emgent, thanks | 04:15 |
| NCommander | emgent, any comments on my work with my FTBFS fixes? | 04:16 |
| emgent | NCommander: Thanks for your work! | 04:16 |
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| NCommander | emgent, your not a core dev, are you? | 04:36 |
| emgent | NCommander: I'm MOTU. | 04:37 |
| emgent | launchpad.net/~motu | 04:37 |
| emgent | launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev | 04:37 |
| NCommander | ScottK, ping | 04:38 |
| ScottK | Pong. | 04:38 |
| NCommander | ScottK, care to sponsor a FTBFS fix for epiphany browser? | 04:39 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Sorry, no. Am kind of caught up in some stuff. | 04:40 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors | 04:40 |
| ScottK | They usually get to it pretty quickly. | 04:40 |
| NCommander | yeah | 04:40 |
| NCommander | ScottK, ouch, that flash backport is evil | 04:50 |
| ScottK | Yeah. That's the first backport I approved that was a major disaster. | 04:52 |
| NCommander | what's going to happen with it? | 04:59 |
| ScottK | Probably nothing until the final Flash 10 release and then nothing until there's a bunch more testing. | 05:00 |
| NCommander | Meh, I managed to get gnash to work on amd64 with a lot of effort | 05:00 |
| NCommander | but at least I don't have the cosnatn issues you see with the non-free fun | 05:00 |
| ScottK | I don't actually use either much at all. | 05:01 |
| ScottK | My laptop I got last year had remained blissfully Flash free until I had to test stuff during the disaster recovery. | 05:01 |
| NCommander | I just have it for youtube | 05:04 |
| NCommander | and my friend just gave me sudo access on his sparc box, and permission to install an ubuntu chroot so, good-bye sparc FTBFS ;-) | 05:04 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 05:04 |
| NCommander | speaking of solved FTBFS | 05:05 |
| NCommander | epiphany-browser now compiles | 05:06 |
| solarion | still no love from netflix. :( | 05:08 |
| NCommander | FTBFS? | 05:08 |
| NCommander | er ... | 05:08 |
| NCommander | wait | 05:08 |
| NCommander | .... | 05:08 |
| NCommander | It's bad when I think netflix is a package | 05:08 |
| solarion | :) | 05:08 |
| solarion | it's more of a tool | 05:08 |
| solarion | sadly, mostly in the metaphorical sense | 05:09 |
| NCommander | and now thats the sound of debootstrap creating an ubuntu sparc chroot :-) | 05:10 |
| kostmo | what is the significance of prepending lines of the changelog with '*' vs. '-' ? | 05:10 |
| ScottK | Major and minor bullet points. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | debian/changelog is meant to be machine parsable, so you need to follow the format closely. | 05:14 |
| solarion | could do * ** *** **** etc. | 05:18 |
| solarion | then you could use emacs outline mode. | 05:18 |
| ion_ | And gain a great amount of ugly for free. | 05:19 |
| kostmo | Are there more details about the official Ubuntu changelog format published somewhere than the ones documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-c727185a09bc917152055fddb0b69a2f4d812e60 ? I'd be happy to add this info about bullets and the format for closing Launchpad bugs to the wiki page otherwise | 05:26 |
| ScottK | That's the right place for Ubuntu. It's actually documented in Debian Policy, which we generall follow. | 05:36 |
| J-_ | Any packagers around? | 05:53 |
| J-_ | I'd like to suggest something to be packaged. http://nick125.com/projects/pymtp | 05:55 |
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| warp10 | Hi all! | 06:29 |
| nxvl | hi | 06:29 |
| nxvl | :D | 06:29 |
| warp10 | hi nxvl :) | 06:31 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl, arent u tired :P? | 06:37 |
| nxvl | yes i am | 06:37 |
| nxvl | work -> university -> girlfriend -> ubuntu | 06:37 |
| nxvl | :D | 06:37 |
| nxvl | all the days of my life | 06:37 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl, haha cool, i support my thesis two days from now and i have to make these videos to show how it works, cuz the proyector won't work the way i need with my Ubuntu T.T... | 06:39 |
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| === superm3 is now known as superm1 | ||
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| Iulian | Good morning. | 08:27 |
| jpds | morning | 08:29 |
| Iulian | Hello Jonathan! | 08:30 |
| jpds | :) | 08:31 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: ping | 09:08 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: pong | 09:24 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Hi, I was wondering if you're still working on bug #163040. I'd like to package paperbox (bug #225633) and it seems that it needs gtkmm-utils which is not in the archive. | 09:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 163040 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] gtkmm-utils" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163040 | 09:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 225633 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Paperbox" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225633 | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: I am quite busy these days | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: I think gtkmm-utils is on revu, so you can continue on that | 09:29 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Yes, it's on revu. If you don't have time to take care of it I will have a look at gtkmm-utils. | 09:30 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: go ahead, if you need a revu, poke me ;-) | 09:31 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Ok, sure. Thanks. | 09:32 |
| huats | morning all | 09:38 |
| sistpoty|work | hi folks | 10:15 |
| Iulian | Morning sistpoty|work | 10:16 |
| sistpoty|work | hi Iulian | 10:17 |
| geser | Hi sistpoty|work | 10:23 |
| sistpoty|work | hi geser | 10:23 |
| sebner | huhu sistpoty|work geser | 10:24 |
| sistpoty|work | hi sebner | 10:24 |
| geser | Hi sebner | 10:27 |
| sebner | huhu DktrKranz | 10:31 |
| DktrKranz | bubu sebner | 10:31 |
| sebner | ^^ | 10:32 |
| huats | Syntux: hello | 11:08 |
| huats | are you around ? | 11:08 |
| Syntux | Good day huats | 11:08 |
| Syntux | yes sure | 11:08 |
| huats | how are you ? | 11:08 |
| Syntux | doing great :-) | 11:09 |
| calc | directhex: ping | 11:10 |
| huats | ScottK: hey | 11:28 |
| huats | ScottK: are you around ? | 11:28 |
| huats | norsetto !!!! | 11:28 |
| norsetto | huats? | 11:28 |
| norsetto | :-) | 11:29 |
| huats | :) | 11:29 |
| emgent | moin | 11:35 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: I finished to package gtkmm-utils version 0.3.2. Can you please delete the package from revu so I can upload a new one? | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: you can just upload | 11:36 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Uhm, I didn't know that's possible. Will upload it right now. | 11:37 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gtkmm-utils | 11:39 |
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| apachelogger | Iulian: please consider resolving the november 21 comment | 11:42 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Oups, forgot to add that dependency to fix the symlink problem. | 11:43 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: I'm fixing it now. | 11:43 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: maintainer are te Ubuntu MOTU Developers | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | *the | 11:45 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: see http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/gtkmm-utils-0711211600/gtkmm-utils-0.3.0/debian/control | 11:45 |
| sebner | apachelogger: always hard working :P | 11:46 |
| Syntux | guys, I'm trying to build a pbuilder interpid env, --distribution interpid isn't working, complaining that /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/interpid does not exists | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | sebner: you have no idea | 11:46 |
| sebner | apachelogger: well, I saw the uploads for intrepid :) | 11:46 |
| * apachelogger was packaging all official KDE 4 packages on weekend | 11:46 | |
| Iulian | apachelogger: I thought that if I want to be the only maintainer of the package I can avoid that. | 11:48 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Anyway, I will look for a sponsor to be included into Debian too. | 11:48 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: So, I think that won't be a problem with the Maintainer field. | 11:48 |
| sebner | apachelogger: right before the official announcement =) | 11:48 |
| calc | Syntux: do you have pbuilder from intrepid? | 11:49 |
| calc | Syntux: er debootstrap i mean | 11:49 |
| RAOF | Should people be looking for me, I'm unlikely to be online much this week. | 11:49 |
| calc | Syntux: probably need both from intrepid actually | 11:49 |
| Syntux | calc, okie how to get that | 11:50 |
| calc | Syntux: archive.ubuntu.com | 11:50 |
| calc | Syntux: or launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap etc | 11:50 |
| slytherin | Syntux: you need debootstrab form intrepid or hardy-backports | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: in that case you wouldn't need to package it for ubuntu at all ... get it into debian and file a sync request (see ubuntu wiki) | 11:51 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Well, I'm not planning to get it into Debian very soon. | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | well, then you need to use motu developers as maintainer | 11:52 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Ok then. | 11:52 |
| calc | Iulian: there are sponsors for debian as well | 11:53 |
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| apachelogger | Iulian: for the debian packaging copyright you might want to use GPL-2 in the URL | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | GPL islinking to GPL-3 | 11:58 |
| Iulian | Right | 12:00 |
| warp10 | norsetto: regarding the junior mentoring program, both MOTUs and members of ~universe-contributors are eligible to be mentors, right? | 12:06 |
| sebner | huhu jono =) | 12:07 |
| emgent | moin sebner warp10 jono | 12:08 |
| sebner | emgent: \o/ | 12:08 |
| jono | hey | 12:10 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: It doesn't fix the symlink problem if I add libglibmm-utils2 as a dependency on libgtkmm-utils2. What version should I add? | 12:27 |
| persia | Does anyone have a workaround for "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file" when trying to build against intrepid? | 12:27 |
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| k0p | Iulian, are you package mantainer? | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: why doesn't it? | 12:36 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Uhmm, no idea, still looking. | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: less DEBFILE | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | investigate the content | 12:38 |
| sebner | go apachelogger, go apachelogger ^^ | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | you will see that every package's changelog and readme and stuff links to the libglibmm-utils2 package | 12:38 |
| c4_121 | gogo | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | so one way or another every package should depend on libglibmm-utils2 | 12:39 |
| c4_121 | its my first time in unbuntu | 12:39 |
| c4_121 | hi all | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | hey c4_121 | 12:40 |
| AnAnt_ | Hello, how can I know what alternatives are provided by which packages in my system ? | 12:45 |
| ScottK | huats: I am here for about 5 minutes. | 12:46 |
| huats | ScottK: no big deal | 12:48 |
| huats | I'll talk to you once you have more time :) | 12:48 |
| huats | just ping me :) | 12:48 |
| * ScottK will try to remember. | 12:49 | |
| sebner | folks | 12:54 |
| sebner | now it's time to say goodbye | 12:54 |
| sebner | cya in 2 weeks =) | 12:54 |
| tacone | have good holydays | 12:54 |
| sebner | tacone: thx =) | 12:54 |
| huats | sebner: enjoy :) | 12:55 |
| norsetto | warp10: right | 12:55 |
| sistpoty|work | nice holidays sebner | 13:00 |
| warp10 | norsetto: ok. Does that imply that for a prospective developer to be accepted as a contributor he should have enough skills and knowledge to be a mentor (apart from his own will to be an actual mentor)? | 13:00 |
| norsetto | warp10: as you correctly say, expert contributors will not be obliged to mentor junior ones, that will be purely on a volunteer bases. | 13:03 |
| warp10 | norsetto: BTW, I like your document, and I especially like that expert contributors will mentor new prospective devs. | 13:08 |
| norsetto | warp10: yes, I think that is a big step forward in the right direction | 13:10 |
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| Syntux | I'm having sort of a problem with dget and gpg, can someone help in that http://paste.syntux.net/bin/37 | 13:19 |
| \sh | http://www.cs.arizona.edu/people/justin/packagemanagersecurity/ <- nicely done :) | 13:23 |
| slytherin | Syntux: What help do you need there? | 13:34 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: I still can't figure out what could be the problem, sorry. | 13:34 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: I have no idea why depending on libglibmm-utils2 doesn't fix the problem. | 13:35 |
| Syntux | slytherin, dget complaining about the signature and aint creating guidedog-1.0.0, | 13:36 |
| Laney | Syntux: use dget -xu to skip verification, or dpkg-source -x <.dsc> | 13:37 |
| slytherin | Syntux: The complain about signature is because you don't have public key of the person who signed source package. | 13:37 |
| Syntux | slytherin, but it's support to extract the package with the -x right? | 13:38 |
| slytherin | Syntux: But that is no reason not extract source | 13:38 |
| slytherin | Syntux: yes it should | 13:38 |
| Syntux | well, it's not doing it | 13:38 |
| slytherin | Syntux: see if 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc' does it | 13:38 |
| Laney | dget will fail on a gpg failure unless you pass -u. | 13:38 |
| Syntux | Laney, it worked with -u | 13:39 |
| Laney | :) | 13:39 |
| Syntux | :-) | 13:39 |
| Hobbsee | Laney: that's not a fail - it's a warning. | 13:40 |
| Hobbsee | (thank goodness) | 13:40 |
| Laney | Well the package doesn't get extracted in that case | 13:40 |
| Laney | I'll get round to makeing a ubuntu-dev-keyring one day soon | 13:40 |
| Laney | making( | 13:41 |
| Laney | * | 13:41 |
| slytherin | Laney: On the contrary, I have always seen the package getting extracted irrespective of the check | 13:41 |
| Laney | Really? Maybe we have different prefs | 13:41 |
| Syntux | Laney, what prefs would cause such thing? | 13:41 |
| Laney | All I know is the behaviour I see | 13:42 |
| Hobbsee | slytherin: likewise | 13:42 |
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| Hobbsee | jdong: can you backport recordmydesktop and rdepends, please? | 14:10 |
| Hobbsee | (it's broken in hardy) | 14:10 |
| calc | directhex: ping | 14:11 |
| * calc merged mono since directhex seems to be missing for a few days | 14:24 | |
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| Major_Kong | hi, i need some help making a debian package for a script. (i don't know to do it...) how do i proccede ? | 15:26 |
| laga | !packaging | Major_Kong | 15:27 |
| ubottu | Major_Kong: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 15:27 |
| Major_Kong | does it cover making a package for a script ? | 15:27 |
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| Major_Kong | ? | 15:30 |
| laga | Major_Kong: i'd assume so | 15:33 |
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| devfil_ | asac: ping | 15:46 |
| === devfil_ is now known as devfil | ||
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:53 |
| Iulian | Hi bddebian | 15:54 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 15:54 |
| bddebian | Hi Iulian, sistpoty|work | 15:54 |
| devfil | asac: you are my mentor, so probability you would know how I work to help me on avoid procedural error etc... I've recently done a package a little difficult, I think that looking at it you can learn how I work | 15:55 |
| asac | devfil: ah ok. so what are you working on? | 16:03 |
| devfil | asac: I'm currently working to update varkon at the latest version, however I've recently finished to update crystalspace at the 1.2.1 version (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/crystalspace/+bug/242961) | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 242961 in crystalspace "Please update crystalspace to 1.2.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:05 |
| * sistpoty|work heads home... cya | 16:07 | |
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| asac | devfil: ok. hard to check what you changed with just the diff.gz. can you attach a debdiff of just the debian/ directory for this update? | 16:13 |
| devfil | asac: I started from Debian debian dir, so a debdiff from debian version or ubuntu version? | 16:15 |
| asac | devfil: what version is currently in debian and what version is in ubuntu? | 16:16 |
| devfil | asac: in ubuntu 1.0, in debian trunk of 1.2 | 16:17 |
| asac | devfil: when was trunk 1.2 uploaded? | 16:17 |
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| devfil | asac: 06 February 2008 | 16:18 |
| asac | devfil: ok. so this does two things in a row | 16:22 |
| asac | 1. merge | 16:22 |
| asac | 2. bump upstream version | 16:22 |
| devfil | asac: exactly | 16:23 |
| devfil | asac: do you want that I upload the debian dir only? | 16:24 |
| Hew | Hey guys, I'm looking into submitting my first patch. This fix just requires a dependency change in debian/control , but being a noob, I'm not sure what it is I need to do this. I've read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing and got the source, but I can't find debian/control (except for in the .diff). Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks | 16:36 |
| Hew | do I just modify the .diff file? This just doesn't seem like the right way to do it. Surely there's a page somewhere that details how to make non-source-code changes. | 16:42 |
| asac | devfil: yes please ... please the complete debdiff for ubnutu and the debdiff from debian to ubuntu | 16:42 |
| devfil | asac: no problem | 16:43 |
| Hew | never mind, I think I worked it out | 16:44 |
| devfil | asac: maybe a diff between ubuntu debian dir and 1.2.1 and Debian debian dir and 1.2.1 is the best solution, debdiff will include also the edited things on crystalspace sources | 16:46 |
| asac | devfil: yes, just the debdiff of the debian dir | 16:50 |
| asac | you can do the complete debdiff and use filterdiff to filter-in/-out the bits you want/dont want | 16:51 |
| asac | devfil: ^^ | 16:51 |
| devfil | asac: ora I can do diff -ruN | 16:51 |
| asac | devfil: please use debdiff so you get used to the proper tools for doing that | 16:53 |
| devfil | asac: ok | 16:53 |
| slytherin | Hew: Yuo don't update diff, you extract source, make changes, update changelog and create source package again then you submit debdiff | 16:54 |
| Hew | slytherin: For some reason I missed the debian folder in the extracted source earlier; I've found it now. Thanks for your help. | 16:56 |
| slytherin | Hew: When I say extract source it means, 'dpkg-source -x *.dsc' | 16:57 |
| Hew | slytherin: I did apt-get source <packagename>, which seemed to do everything. Is this also a correct way of doing it? | 16:58 |
| slytherin | Hew: yes even that is fine. Only thing is that it needs deb-src urls in yuor /etc/apt/sources.list. Where as with dpkg-source you can extract any source | 16:59 |
| Hew | slytherin: Ah, gotcha. Yea, I made sure my source repositories were all there before I started. Thanks for the info. | 17:00 |
| devfil | asac: I'm unable to use interdiff I think | 17:06 |
| devfil | s/interdiff/filterdiff/ | 17:07 |
| asac | devfil: why? | 17:11 |
| asac | debdiff .... | filterdiff -i*/debian/* | 17:11 |
| asac | should do the trick | 17:11 |
| devfil | uhm ok | 17:12 |
| slytherin | devfil: if you are upadting a package to new upstream version, simply attach .diff.gz to bug | 17:15 |
| devfil | slytherin: already done | 17:15 |
| slytherin | devfil: so why do you need interdiff then? | 17:15 |
| devfil | slytherin: asac asked to upload the debdiff between my pakcage and debian/ubuntu version | 17:16 |
| slytherin | devfil: asac is a developer, I am not. So it is your call. :-) | 17:17 |
| devfil | asac: all done | 17:21 |
| Major_Kong | quick question: i don't suppose there are scripts to help me create a package for a perl script and some bash scripts, is there ? | 17:22 |
| Major_Kong | *are there ? | 17:22 |
| AnAnt | Hello, may someone review this swt-gtk upload: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=swt-gtk ? | 17:25 |
| crimsun | mario_limonciell: it's due to upstream (Adobe) being crazy with their version numbers | 17:28 |
| crimsun | mario_limonciell: and yes, it's an attempt to avoid introducing an epoch, since Debian already uses an epoch, and I wanted to leave MOTU the option of reverting to the Debian source versioning | 17:29 |
| asac | devfil: what are the changes against crystalspace-1.2.1/CS/scripts/deb/core/debian/changelog | 17:32 |
| asac | is that a mirror of the real changelog? | 17:32 |
| asac | anyway. didnt we have any changes in ubuntu (vs. debian)? | 17:33 |
| devfil | asac: crystalspace-1.2.1/CS/scripts/deb/core/debian/changelog is the debian dir included in the official package, really old | 17:33 |
| devfil | the changes needed between ubuntu and debian are only build-depends | 17:34 |
| devfil | and I've included them | 17:34 |
| asac | devfil: why do we introduce crystalspace-1.2.1/debian/patches/csstartme_startme_cfg_programs.diff? | 17:35 |
| asac | (if its only the build-depends ;)) | 17:35 |
| NCommander | morning world | 17:36 |
| AnAnt | asac: does gnash operation depend on existance of flashplugin-nonfree package ? | 17:37 |
| NCommander | AnAnt, no | 17:37 |
| emgent | moin NCommander | 17:37 |
| geser | Hi NCommander | 17:37 |
| asac | devfil: +cd CS; DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/crystalspace $(MAKE) install_bin install_lib install_plugin install_data install_config | 17:37 |
| NCommander | I'm debating taking a break from FTBFS, and working on merges (its pretty much the same thing ;-)) | 17:37 |
| asac | devfil: that line would have better be just in the debian format (e.g. multipe lines) | 17:38 |
| asac | devfil: what license is debian/crystalspace/usr/share/crystalspace*/data/maps/castle/license.txt | 17:38 |
| asac | ? | 17:38 |
| asac | we appear to remove it | 17:38 |
| asac | if its a different license then the one the main program is under we should ship it in usr/share/doc/... | 17:39 |
| devfil | asac: I included it in debian/copright | 17:42 |
| asac | ok thats good enough | 17:43 |
| Hew | any ideas why 'debuild -S' isn't working for me? This is the first problem in the output I see: make[1]: /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make: No such file or directory | 17:46 |
| asac | devfil: so do you want to update the diff.gz for install_ thing? otherwise i would ack it | 17:46 |
| geser | Hew: sudo apt-get install quilt | 17:47 |
| NCommander | and then probably add quilt to the build-deps | 17:47 |
| asac | devfil: i think its better to include that change as could send the diff directly to debian then | 17:47 |
| geser | NCommander: it probably is already but not installed | 17:47 |
| asac | and chances are higher that it would be included | 17:47 |
| devfil | asac: what you mean in "so do you want to update the diff.gz for install_ thing? otherwise i would ack it"? | 17:48 |
| NCommander | geser, debuild will not build if source dependencies are not satisfied | 17:48 |
| asac | devfil: read the comments i gave above ;) | 17:48 |
| Hew | geser: Just what I needed! Thanks :-) | 17:49 |
| geser | NCommander: debuild -S doesn't need all build-dependencies installed, just the one use in the clean target, which is called before the source package gets build | 17:49 |
| devfil | asac: Debian maintainer seems to be offline and this package is "outdated". I prefer to include this in ubuntu and make a NMU with the same changes, so when maintainer will upload my NMU we will sync the package | 17:51 |
| asac | devfil: thats not the point. i just said that you shouldnt have moved from a multi-line install to a one liner :) | 17:54 |
| asac | otherwise i agree | 17:54 |
| RoAkSoAx | greetings! xD | 17:55 |
| devfil | asac: ah ok, I didn't understand, however why? | 17:55 |
| asac | devfil: just to be closer ... the diff would have been smaller and better reviewable ,) | 17:57 |
| asac | its not a big point though. but in the end its just removing the "arch" ifs ... so there is no need to redo that line imo | 17:57 |
| devfil | ok | 17:57 |
| devfil | what do you think about all work? | 17:57 |
| asac | devfil: just imagine on next merge ... the diff will be more comprehensible | 17:57 |
| asac | devfil: looks good. well done | 17:58 |
| devfil | ok | 17:58 |
| ilembitov1 | Hi, guys. Can somebody explain to me - is maintaining packages in Universe strictly tied to Ubuntu release schedule? | 18:01 |
| ilembitov1 | Just I try to understand, why universe doesn't get updates to major packages after release | 18:03 |
| lukehasnoname | <non-motu person here> Update requests have to be submitted, and there has to be a good reason (major bug, required version update, etc.) | 18:04 |
| ilembitov1 | Oh, so Universe can get major updates? | 18:05 |
| Laney | That's what backports are for | 18:05 |
| stgraber | ilembitov1: Ubuntu's policy is not to update software once the release is out. Only a few packages are exceptions like Firefox, others just have to be fixed by getting the security/bugfix from the new upstream version and applying it on the version in the repository. | 18:06 |
| stgraber | to get newer release of a software, use backport. | 18:06 |
| ilembitov1 | But backports don't contain fresh software either... | 18:06 |
| ilembitov1 | Do baskports get update only after a request? | 18:07 |
| * Laney nods | 18:07 | |
| lukehasnoname | hm | 18:08 |
| lukehasnoname | nexuiz should get a backport update | 18:08 |
| * lukehasnoname will probably fill out a report on bugs.LP, right? | 18:09 | |
| ilembitov1 | plt-scheme should get an update. It didn't get one for years... | 18:09 |
| stgraber | backport is usually taking a release from the current devel version (Intrepid) and having it backported to an older release like hardy | 18:10 |
| stgraber | so the package first has to be newer in the current devel release | 18:10 |
| persia | ilembitov1: Has intrepid been updated yet? | 18:10 |
| lukehasnoname | stgraber: Got it. | 18:10 |
| ilembitov1 | ilembitov1: What do you mean? | 18:11 |
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| apachelogger | Iulian: it does | 18:48 |
| apachelogger | why do you think it does not? | 18:48 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Because when running lintian against the changes file it complains. | 18:53 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: lintian is not always the smartest sorcerer to ask ;-) | 18:54 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Ok then, I will upload it to revu right now. | 18:54 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Uploaded, please have a look at it. | 18:58 |
| slytherin | geser: I am confused with the bug state changes in statcvs sync bug, can you please explain? | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | Iulian: should be ok now, I will give it a complete revu later on | 19:11 |
| Iulian | apachelogger: Sure, just ping me if you need something. | 19:20 |
| bobbo | /whois norsetto | 19:22 |
| bobbo | sorry! | 19:22 |
| foxmike | Hi! I'm stuck with a packaging problem. I'm trying to package brasero-0.8.0 (new upstream version) for hardy, but the build fails. Can anyone help me sorting it out? | 19:23 |
| Laney | foxmike: You might be interested to know that ember has uploaded that version to LP for intrepid ;) | 19:25 |
| foxmike | thank you, I'll take a look at it right now! | 19:26 |
| jpds | bobbo: hmmm | 19:28 |
| foxmike | Laney: I've been looking https://launchpad.net/~ember/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=any and https://launchpad.net/~ember/+archive?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=any and I have not seen any brasero package. Can you confirm I'm looking the right pages? Maybe it is just not there yet? | 19:32 |
| foxmike | Well, actually I haven't found any brasero 0.8.0 for the later page... | 19:33 |
| Laney | foxmike: It's not been uploaded to the archive, just on a bug waiting for sponsorship I believe. | 19:33 |
| Laney | look at the bugs for brasero in Ubuntu on LP | 19:33 |
| foxmike | ok I'll check there, thank you! | 19:33 |
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| bddebian | Do be do be dooo | 19:44 |
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| Iulian | bddebian: Scooby Doo? | 19:51 |
| bddebian | Sure :) | 19:51 |
| Iulian | bddebian: Are you still watching cartoons? Grow up! | 19:53 |
| * Iulian smiles | 19:53 | |
| tacone | omg, what's wrong with cartoons ? | 19:53 |
| AstralJava | Sound gurus, if aconnect is provided by alsa-utils, what -dev package needs to be included as build-depends for an application depending on it (aconnect) to be built properly? I've got a problem in which a package builds fine on pbuilder (intrepid), but fails in PPA. | 20:13 |
| AstralJava | Oh, and it fails on finding aconnect. | 20:14 |
| AstralJava | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16044984/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.rakarrack_0.2.0%2B20080710svn-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:14 |
| k0p | someone can make a review of my package, please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit | 20:37 |
| norsetto | k0p: why? | 20:38 |
| k0p | norsetto, well.. I need a review to package should be added on ubuntu, right? | 20:39 |
| AstralJava | *blink* *blink* why? What why? | 20:39 |
| norsetto | k0p: yes, but why should we review your package? I don't mean to be rude, just would like to understand why we should | 20:40 |
| k0p | norsetto, oh I understand. I never make a package before. Umit it's a graphic front-end for nmap. and it should be nice that umit will be added in ubuntu repository to our users don't have install manually. | 20:42 |
| norsetto | k0p: ok, thanks for letting me know | 20:42 |
| norsetto | k0p: do you know what is a watch file? | 20:43 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: is your pbuilder chroot distribution same as ppa? | 20:43 |
| k0p | norsetto, nop | 20:43 |
| norsetto | k0p: did you read our packaging guide? Its explained in there (too) | 20:44 |
| k0p | read some parts of guide. I'll read it | 20:44 |
| norsetto | k0p: we really appreciate having a watch file, it helps to keep packages up to date and automatise some of the review tasks | 20:45 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: pbuilder distribution is intrepid, and updated. changelog tells PPA buildd that the distribution is intrepid. Can I make a difference somehow? | 20:45 |
| k0p | hmm about the package? | 20:46 |
| k0p | or about the code? | 20:46 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: I was just confirming if your pbuilder was intrepid | 20:46 |
| norsetto | k0p: the watch file is part of the package | 20:46 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Oh, okay. Yes, it is. :) | 20:46 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: The log you referred is Ubuntu build log, right? not PPA log | 20:46 |
| k0p | norsetto, so it's like make package downloading the code from svn? | 20:47 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: If the package needs aconnect to build which is provided by alsa-utils then you need to add alsa-utils in build depends | 20:47 |
| norsetto | k0p: could be, but in that case it would also be nice to have a get-orig-source target in debian/rules | 20:47 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Nope, that's from launchpad. Here is the pbuilder log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27551/ | 20:49 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: That's the thing, I wanted understand why my pbuilder works without it. :) | 20:50 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: any change yu have some additional packages in pbuilder chroot? | 20:50 |
| k0p | norsetto, so I need add a target get-orig-source? | 20:50 |
| norsetto | k0p: for packaging python apps, you should really use one of our two python helpers: pycentral or pysupport | 20:50 |
| slytherin | k0p: if the software is released in .tar.gz format then you may not need get-orig-source, only watch file. But you need to repack and pack or do some additional changes to tar.gz file then you will need get-orig-source targer | 20:52 |
| norsetto | k0p: I have 248 lintian warnings and 3 warnings, I think this is a record :-) | 20:53 |
| norsetto | k0p: s/3 warnings /3 errors/ | 20:53 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: No additional scripts from me, no. | 20:53 |
| k0p | I have 248 warnings? | 20:53 |
| k0p | lol | 20:53 |
| k0p | or errors? | 20:53 |
| k0p | here I don't have errors | 20:54 |
| norsetto | k0p: 248 warnings and 3 errors | 20:54 |
| Iulian | Whoah! | 20:54 |
| geser | slytherin: Riddell processed today sync requests but apparently forgot to add a flag that the ubuntu changes can be overwritten. The script set the status nonetheless to "fix released" and pitti asked me to reopen them, so they are back at confirmed. | 20:54 |
| norsetto | k0p: thats because you didn't check the binary packages | 20:54 |
| k0p | norsetto, I don't have warnings in my ubuntu.. and not online. How you see this errors? | 20:54 |
| k0p | binary packages? | 20:54 |
| slytherin | geser: Yes, I understood that later. :-) | 20:55 |
| norsetto | k0p: yes, after you have build your source package, you should use lintian to check your binary packages | 20:55 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: Which package is it? I will try building in my pbuilder | 20:55 |
| k0p | norsetto, I only have one warning here | 20:55 |
| norsetto | k0p: or just check the binary .changes, lintian will check all binary automatically | 20:56 |
| k0p | norsetto, lintian -iIv? | 20:56 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: rakarrack, it'll be new. Sources can be found in my PPA @ deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/astraljava/ubuntu intrepid main | 20:56 |
| AstralJava | err... deb-src naturally | 20:57 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: is it on revu? | 20:57 |
| norsetto | k0p: lintian umit_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 20:58 |
| k0p | norsetto, I don't have errors :/ | 21:00 |
| norsetto | k0p: try giving lintian a kick or two, guess just needs to warm up .... | 21:00 |
| slytherin | k0p: have you installed lintian from intrepid or hardy-backports? Also did you do lintian *.changes? | 21:00 |
| slytherin | geser: Do you think you can find enough time to review and sponsor batik update? | 21:01 |
| k0p | hardy-backports | 21:01 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Yes. http://revu.ubuntuwire.org/details.py?package=rakarrack | 21:02 |
| norsetto | k0p: the precompiled translation files are no-go | 21:05 |
| CarlFK | installed intrepid, added http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/gutsy.list, then did apt-get build-dep cinelerra | 21:06 |
| CarlFK | E: Package libfaad2-dev has no installation candidate. However the following packages replace it: libfaad-dev | 21:06 |
| k0p | norsetto, no-go? | 21:07 |
| CarlFK | should I tell the cinelerra package maintainer, or is that something that should be logged in lp? | 21:07 |
| k0p | slytherin, there are a guide to install lintian from intrepid? | 21:07 |
| norsetto | k0p: yes, they are totally against the GPL which the package claims to be licensed with | 21:07 |
| slytherin | k0p: no, one from hardy-backports is fine | 21:08 |
| k0p | hmm ok | 21:08 |
| k0p | norsetto, we have .mo files | 21:08 |
| slytherin | CarlFK: Tell cinelerra maintainer | 21:09 |
| norsetto | k0p: exactly, you need the sources | 21:09 |
| CarlFK | slytherin: ok. thanks. | 21:09 |
| k0p | we have the sources too | 21:09 |
| norsetto | k0p: no sources (or "preferred form of modification"), no GPL | 21:09 |
| slytherin | CarlFK: By the way, you are using gutsy url in intrepid, libfaad2-dev is present in gutsy. | 21:09 |
| k0p | norsetto, you're right | 21:10 |
| k0p | I don't know what's happer | 21:11 |
| k0p | happen | 21:11 |
| norsetto | k0p: you really have to ask upstream, its for his own good too | 21:11 |
| k0p | norsetto, remove mo files and add the sources right? | 21:11 |
| k0p | upstream? | 21:11 |
| geser | slytherin: I can try | 21:11 |
| norsetto | k0p: the author | 21:12 |
| CarlFK | slytherin: not sure what to do with that | 21:12 |
| k0p | oh yeah | 21:12 |
| k0p | sure | 21:12 |
| slytherin | geser: Actually I could not get hold of blueyed for last 3-4 days. So I have readded the bug to u-u-s queue as per discussion with persia. There are few packages in DEPWAIT due to batik. | 21:13 |
| slytherin | CarlFK: Why are you building package from their site? | 21:14 |
| k0p | norsetto, so: add watch file ; see pycentral or pysupport ; remove .mo files ; add po files. And more? | 21:14 |
| norsetto | k0p: Maintainer will be MOTU, you can list yourself as the XSBC-OriginalMaintainer | 21:14 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: Your package build fine for my intrepid pbuilder too. Seems to be some problem with PPA then. | 21:15 |
| norsetto | k0p: and don't forget the 248+3 from lintian ;-) | 21:15 |
| CarlFK | slytherin: i think it uses trunk - but not sure actually | 21:15 |
| k0p | norsetto, I don't see it :S | 21:15 |
| k0p | :( | 21:15 |
| norsetto | k0p: what is the exact command you are giving ? | 21:16 |
| k0p | lintian umit_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 21:16 |
| norsetto | k0p: build-depends and depends needs to be revisited once you use pycentral/pysupport | 21:17 |
| slytherin | CarlFK: What you can do is 'apt-get source cinelerra', change libfaad2-dev to libfaad-dev in debian/control file, add changelog entry and then do 'dpkg-buildpackage -b' | 21:17 |
| norsetto | k0p: what do you have in your umit_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb? Is it empty!? | 21:17 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Thanks for confirming. I uploaded a version that has alsa-utils in build-depends. Let's see how it works. Unfortunately I seem to have accidentally uploaded the new version to REVU also, when I could have merely updated the former. It hasn't showed up yet, but can I request a deletion if it turns out as another package in REVU? | 21:18 |
| norsetto | k0p: and the description is to be totally redone, please read the packaging guide on how to do that properly | 21:18 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: any change that that failure is arch specific? | 21:18 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: because I have i386, and your log was for amd64 | 21:19 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Nope, failed on all archs. | 21:19 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: Same reason also. | 21:19 |
| k0p | norsetto, ok | 21:19 |
| norsetto | k0p: why do you repeat the GPL license header two times? one is enough | 21:19 |
| norsetto | k0p: use the one with the correct FSF address ;-) | 21:20 |
| norsetto | k0p: and the pointer for GPL-2 is /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 | 21:20 |
| norsetto | k0p: for the download location this is enough: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/umit/ | 21:22 |
| k0p | norsetto, is it in watch file? | 21:22 |
| norsetto | k0p: and use your full name in debian/copyright | 21:22 |
| norsetto | k0p: no, all these in debian/copyright | 21:22 |
| mouz | would someone like to sponsor my latest patch for bug 246106? thanks :) | 21:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246106 in revu-tools "revu-tools always say lintian not happy" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246106 | 21:23 |
| k0p | norsetto, ok | 21:24 |
| geser | slytherin: I've found the .diff.gz for batik, do you know what's the easiest way to get the .orig.tar.gz? | 21:24 |
| norsetto | k0p: there is also another license for the higwidgets, it is the LGPL-2.1 | 21:24 |
| AstralJava | slytherin: PPA builds succeed now with alsa-utils added. Gonna investigate more tomorrow, gotta get to bed now. Thanks for helping out. | 21:24 |
| k0p | yeah.. I need to include too? | 21:24 |
| slytherin | geser: target get-orig-source. :-) | 21:24 |
| slytherin | AstralJava: welcome | 21:25 |
| geser | slytherin: now I just to figure out, how I get debian/rules out of the .diff.gz | 21:26 |
| norsetto | k0p: absolutely, but there is possibly an eror since all sources in higwidgets are licensed GPL-2, this has to be clarified upstream too | 21:26 |
| norsetto | k0p: Guilherme Polo <ggpolo@gmail.com> is an author too | 21:26 |
| k0p | norsetto, yeah it was fixed in the trunk too | 21:26 |
| CarlFK | slytherin: thanks | 21:26 |
| k0p | the licence of higwidgets was fixed.. i'll update | 21:27 |
| k0p | norsetto, what's about the author guilherme? | 21:27 |
| slytherin | geser: well, you can gunzip .diff.gz and the do 'patch -p1 < .diff' any directory, you will all the debian files | 21:27 |
| norsetto | k0p: he is quoted as the author in one of the source files | 21:27 |
| k0p | yeah | 21:27 |
| k0p | it was | 21:28 |
| k0p | it is | 21:28 |
| k0p | is it to included in debian/copyright | 21:28 |
| k0p | ? | 21:28 |
| norsetto | k0p: yes, its better | 21:30 |
| k0p | norsetto, ok. I have all the notes | 21:30 |
| k0p | I only have the problem | 21:30 |
| k0p | because I don't see warnings | 21:30 |
| k0p | can you upload it to pastebin? | 21:30 |
| k0p | well.. may be I need to install other lintian | 21:31 |
| norsetto | k0p: which pastebin you prefer? | 21:31 |
| k0p | choose you :) | 21:32 |
| norsetto | !pastebin | 21:32 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 21:32 |
| CarlFK | slytherin: dpkg-buildpackage will get the dependencies? | 21:33 |
| norsetto | k0p: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27556/ | 21:33 |
| k0p | thanks | 21:33 |
| k0p | norsetto, what commend do you execute to see it? | 21:34 |
| slytherin | CarlFK: No, it just build package. You will have to install dependencies manually I guess, at least one i.e. libfaad-dev | 21:34 |
| slytherin | geser: Any more inputs needed form me? I have to go to sleep. | 21:34 |
| broonie | apt-get build-dep might be handy | 21:34 |
| CarlFK | broonie: build-dep is erroring | 21:34 |
| norsetto | k0p: lintian umit_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_amd64.changes | 21:34 |
| CarlFK | http://dpaste.com/65185/ | 21:34 |
| slytherin | broonie: Not in his case. He is using a source for gutsy where libfaad2-dev was present. But his distribution is intrepid where libfaad-dev is needed | 21:35 |
| norsetto | k0p: you don't need README.Debian | 21:35 |
| k0p | k | 21:38 |
| k0p | ok | 21:38 |
| norsetto | k0p: what are the .dmp files? | 21:38 |
| k0p | norsetto, sqlite I think | 21:39 |
| k0p | oh no | 21:40 |
| k0p | it's not | 21:40 |
| k0p | it's a file with information to identify servers | 21:40 |
| geser | slytherin: still fighting to get the .orig.tar.gz but I make progress | 21:40 |
| slytherin | geser: what is problem? | 21:40 |
| slytherin | geser: I mean doesn't 'make -f debian/rules get-orig-source' work for you? | 21:41 |
| geser | slytherin: I guess the last problem was that the dir I was running get-orig-source was badly named (just batik and not batik-1.7, so tar failed) | 21:41 |
| norsetto | k0p: in the desktop files, add a ; at the end of the categories line | 21:41 |
| norsetto | k0p: do you need to run this thing as root? | 21:42 |
| k0p | yeah it's needed | 21:42 |
| slytherin | geser: I think it shouldn't make a difference. The upstream zip will be extracted into separate dir with proper version. | 21:42 |
| geser | hmm | 21:42 |
| norsetto | k0p: ok, the you only need one desktop file | 21:42 |
| geser | slytherin: does the packaging base on the Debian package? if yes, did you need to change much? | 21:43 |
| k0p | norsetto, why? | 21:43 |
| norsetto | k0p: in the desktop file, use an imperative verb in the comment | 21:43 |
| k0p | I can run it as root or without root | 21:43 |
| norsetto | k0p: you said you need to be root | 21:43 |
| k0p | norsetto, my mistake | 21:44 |
| slytherin | geser: Debian doesn't have get-orig-source. Also as far as I remember pdf-transcoder.jar file was removed in repackaged source. I am deleting all jar files in clean target instead. | 21:44 |
| k0p | I can run with root or without root | 21:44 |
| norsetto | k0p: well, still, if you don't you still need one desktop file only | 21:44 |
| k0p | with root we have all previligiuous to make some scans | 21:44 |
| k0p | but I need twice | 21:44 |
| slytherin | geser: One more thing. pdf-transcoder source is updated. You can find detail in README.Debian-source | 21:44 |
| slytherin | geser: But rest everything is same IIRC | 21:45 |
| norsetto | k0p: than the application is bogus, for the priviledged operation they would need to switch to root , but it will have to be done within the application | 21:45 |
| slytherin | geser: except the usual updates. | 21:45 |
| geser | slytherin: now I finally got a .orig.tar.gz | 21:46 |
| slytherin | geser: If it is too much trouble, leave it. We can discuss in detail tomorrow. I have to go now. | 21:46 |
| slytherin | geser: Ok. Best luck with review then. :-) Bye. | 21:47 |
| norsetto | k0p: looks like the icon is not correctly installed | 21:47 |
| k0p | norsetto, about the last comment I think that we can't switch to root in runtime | 21:48 |
| k0p | about last..well | 21:49 |
| norsetto | k0p: /usr/share/icons/umit_ico_48px.svg but you want it in /usr/share/icons/umit/umit_ico_48px.svg | 21:49 |
| norsetto | k0p: anyhow, thats it for tonigh, now you have enough to keep you busy for the next few weeks ;-) | 21:50 |
| k0p | norsetto, not the next few weeks dude. | 21:50 |
| k0p | i'll working hard to fix it :D | 21:51 |
| k0p | I hope finish tomorrow | 21:51 |
| k0p | but it's lot of warnings :O | 21:51 |
| k0p | and erros | 21:51 |
| k0p | to fix | 21:52 |
| k0p | norsetto, btw thanks a lot! | 21:52 |
| k0p | it's very nice your help | 21:52 |
| norsetto | k0p: my pleasure | 21:53 |
| TGD | hi | 21:53 |
| k0p | :) | 21:53 |
| TGD | hello | 21:55 |
| TGD | hmmm | 21:56 |
| huats | norsetto !!! | 21:58 |
| norsetto | huats !!! | 21:58 |
| norsetto | the well aligned couple :-) | 21:58 |
| huats | :) | 21:58 |
| huats | thanks for trying to find a mentor to didrocks, you wont be disapointed | 21:59 |
| norsetto | huats: I hope he will be true to his name ;-) | 22:00 |
| huats | := | 22:00 |
| huats | :) | 22:00 |
| huats | I am sure he will | 22:01 |
| norsetto | whats :=, a funny guy with two breadsticks in his nose? | 22:01 |
| huats | no simply a funny french guy that has some pbs with it keyboard :) | 22:02 |
| norsetto | lol | 22:02 |
| norsetto | _#($%_#_#@$_@#% | 22:03 |
| * tacone HATES french keyboards | 22:04 | |
| * norsetto hates french women | 22:04 | |
| * Laney loves french cheese | 22:05 | |
| emgent | argh | 22:06 |
| * tacone bleurgh | 22:06 | |
| k0p | norsetto, should I remove mo files? | 22:10 |
| norsetto | k0p: it would be better, they should be created at build time | 22:11 |
| k0p | ok | 22:11 |
| k0p | norsetto, I can't make nothing a respect two desktop files | 22:13 |
| norsetto | emgent: o/ | 22:13 |
| k0p | if users want he should be run umit as root | 22:13 |
| k0p | may be next release of umit it should be fixed | 22:14 |
| emgent | norsetto: o/ | 22:16 |
| CarlFK | looking at hvirtual-2.1.0/debian/control I see libfaad2-dev | libfaad-dev, | 22:20 |
| CarlFK | so shouldn't it use libfaad-dev if it can't get the first? | 22:20 |
| Adri2000 | it should | 22:24 |
| tormod | git help please: how can I undo a commit, but keep changes (cause I want to change something but push only one commit in the end)? | 22:34 |
| NCommander | I don't think its possible in git to do that short of going back to the old revision and then applying diffs manually | 22:36 |
| tormod | git reset --soft ? | 22:38 |
| wgrant | Use bzr :P | 22:38 |
| tormod | NCommander: going back how? git reset --hard? | 22:39 |
| tormod | wgrant: I think I know how to do this with bzr, yes :) | 22:39 |
| NCommander | I'd agree with wgrant, use bzr ;-) | 22:39 |
| norsetto | bzr? whats bzr!? | 22:39 |
| NCommander | tormod, by recloning the git repo, and then applying your patches to that and commiting | 22:40 |
| tormod | NCommander: starting from scratch that is... I was hoping for something less bandwidth hungry | 22:40 |
| Adri2000 | tormod: git reset doesn't work? | 22:41 |
| * NCommander does not think that highly of git | 22:41 | |
| tormod | Adri2000: just tried git reset --hard , and I can still see my changes | 22:42 |
| Adri2000 | git reset <commit> ? | 22:43 |
| tormod | Adri2000: just found that out thanks | 22:43 |
| NCommander | Adri2000, that simply changes the working tree, it doesn't effect his local repo | 22:43 |
| Adri2000 | NCommander: you mean it doesn't remove the commit? | 22:44 |
| tormod | the problem is I never understood CVS, only did was I was told. working tree? repo? | 22:44 |
| tormod | (I don't expect to be explained this here now) | 22:44 |
| Adri2000 | in git you have index as well :) | 22:44 |
| NCommander | Adri2000, nope. out of the box, there isn't a way to completely elimiate a revision short of editing files to my knowledge | 22:45 |
| tormod | Adri2000: brain overload :) | 22:45 |
| NCommander | But I haven't used git in quite some time | 22:45 |
| NCommander | So I can't say for sure its right | 22:45 |
| tormod | but hey, "git reset --hard <commit>" changed my files and according to "git log" some meta information as well. looks good | 22:46 |
| NCommander | Well, if that works, then neat | 22:47 |
| * NCommander adds it to his git cheatsheet | 22:51 | |
| NCommander | I still think git is almost as bad as GNU arch | 22:51 |
| NCommander | But at least its not as messy | 22:51 |
| tormod | arch - I had forgot about that one. as if it's not enough with svn, git, bzr and that they keep changing. | 22:58 |
| * NCommander blows the dust on his How To Package memories | 23:14 | |
| k0p | where I can know more about pycentral and pysupport? | 23:24 |
| warp10 | Hi all | 23:31 |
| NCommander | when you name a library, the dev package is libraryname-dev, and the actual library is libraryname0, where zero is the ABI, right? | 23:36 |
| k0p | lintian V please | 23:38 |
| k0p | lintian -V | 23:39 |
| NCommander | ?? | 23:39 |
| k0p | NCommander, it's not for you. | 23:39 |
| NCommander | oh | 23:40 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Yes. | 23:40 |
| NCommander | should I start the numbering at 0 or 1 | 23:41 |
| Adri2000 | 0 | 23:41 |
| ScottK | k0p: Look in the new python policy (google for Debian new python policy) and in the docs for each package. | 23:41 |
| NCommander | (this is the first time in like years I've packaged a library) | 23:41 |
| Adri2000 | NCommander: you start counting at 0, right? :) | 23:41 |
| NCommander | Adri2000, no, -1 ;-) | 23:41 |
| NCommander | I'm always owing someone something so I need to take that into account | 23:41 |
| k0p | ScottK, ok thanks | 23:41 |
| k0p | ScottK, what version of lintian do you use? | 23:42 |
| NCommander | ok, got the watch file done, just need to update the copyright file, clean up the rules, and add the descriptions to the control file, and then upload to REVU | 23:42 |
| ScottK | k0p: 1.24.2 | 23:43 |
| k0p | 1.24.1 is old school? | 23:45 |
| ScottK | As of about two days ago, yes. | 23:45 |
| k0p | I guy found 248 warnings in my package and I don't see it | 23:45 |
| ScottK | What package? | 23:45 |
| k0p | umit | 23:45 |
| ScottK | Right now it's packaged as a native package, so fix that first. | 23:47 |
| ScottK | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/umit-0807160010/lintian | 23:47 |
| k0p | are you talking about warning? | 23:47 |
| k0p | uploading.. | 23:47 |
| k0p | ScottK, I already upload. | 23:48 |
| k0p | when It's online I'll say to you | 23:48 |
| k0p | 2 minutes remaining :) | 23:49 |
| === gaurdro_ is now known as gaurdro | ||
| k0p | ScottK, can you take a look now? | 23:58 |
| k0p | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit | 23:58 |
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