/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/15/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Picioops.01:33
PiciI accidentally issued sync on ubottu, I was looking for the sync factoid in a query window... hope it didnt do anything bad, it errored out.01:34
* mneptok vomits erotically03:18
nickrudyou should stay away from passion fruit, mneptok03:20
mneptoknickrud: why do you think i'm vomitting?!03:21
mneptok;)03:21
Picihrm..03:48
PiciAre legal drugs concidered o4o if alcohol isnt?03:48
nickrudcontext, abuse is abuse03:49
ubottuJ-_ called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (lovetron)06:28
Madpilotdealt with06:29
ubottuFlannel called the ops in #ubuntu (Big)06:46
bazhangsorted.06:47
* Madpilot +1s Flannel for op-dom. It's long overdue...06:48
* Flannel realises he's idling in -ops. After triggering himself.06:48
bazhanghaha06:48
* bazhang seconds the motion06:48
nickrudit'll take a pronouncement from on high to get flannel to accept06:55
Madpilotnickrud, apparently I count as "on high"? Who knew? Flannel just indicated in PM that he'd be glad to accept op.06:59
MadpilotThis is, of course, evidence of insanity... :)06:59
bazhanghaha06:59
nickrudyup, you must be, that's proof positive. He's turned it down more than once07:00
MadpilotI've been bugging him to accept for ages, off and on.07:00
naliothis he drunk?07:00
* nickrud bows before Madpilot 07:00
Madpilotnalioth, if that's a pre-req for op, I need to hit the gin a lot more :)07:01
nickrudI think he just had a momentary lapse of reason07:01
MadpilotI have to admit I've almost entirely lost track of who's actually running Ubuntu IRCland recently07:05
* bazhang points to nickrud 07:05
Madpilotwho's actually confirming new ops/on the IRC council/etc?07:05
bazhangoh that07:05
HobbseeMadpilot: the irc council07:06
Hobbseesupposedly07:06
Hobbseebut they're also supposed to have 5 members, and hold regular meetings, so....07:06
nickrudwhat's left of it07:06
bazhangconfirming; not so much07:06
nickrudlol bazhang I'm in #ubuntu and that's it, there are many more people doing far more work than I07:07
bazhangbut you are the calming presence nickrud :)07:07
* nickrud gestures obscenely at bazhang in a mneptokian way07:08
bazhanghehe07:08
Madpilotso... do we even currently *have* a procedure for new ops and other access list modifications?07:08
Hobbseei dobut it07:09
Madpilotmneptokian... some things should never be verbed...07:09
bazhangthe ubuntu irc operator pages hasnt been updated since forever, if that equals confirmed07:10
nalioth+1 for flannel as op.07:11
naliothnow you just need to get pricey and elky to agree, and there's your majority of 507:11
bazhang:)07:11
bazhangxavura07:17
jpdsmorning07:42
MyrttiWHAT, FLANNEL ISN'T OPS??!08:13
* Myrtti reads her backlog08:14
* Myrtti giggles08:14
bazhangphew08:28
Myrtti!test08:43
ubottuFailed!08:43
ikoniaI hate this type of issue09:12
ikoniaa guy comes in says wtf09:12
ikoniaasked not to, he says he's tired, so his concentration slipped09:13
ikoniathen come back when your not that tired09:13
ikoniaI'm awake I'm awake09:13
ikoniathe excuse backfires and then it changes to "I've got medical conditions"09:14
bazhangmy brother has medical conditions is next09:14
ikoniaha ha09:15
ikoniagenuinly laughing, nice come back09:15
bazhangthanks :)09:15
jussi01hehe09:16
bazhangmust be full moon09:16
Myrttithat would explain yesterday09:18
bazhang:)09:18
MyrttiI swear to Gaia, I've not seen that much idiocy in air for a looooong time09:18
bazhangtwas epic09:19
jpdsIt's summer, the trolls are not working.09:19
bazhangwindowsxp (name) was my favorite09:20
Myrttihttp://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/3998218309:21
ikoniadid you have a fun night last night ?09:22
Myrttiyou could say that09:25
ikoniait was all quiet when I looked in before going out09:25
Myrtticount your blessings09:25
bazhangits always quiet before you leave.09:25
* ikonia has the gift09:26
bazhangthe one moment you turn away though...09:26
jpdsYep.09:27
* Myrtti yawns11:25
Myrttianything intresting going on?11:26
jussi01Myrtti: I was just thinking the same thing...11:26
ikoniaI've found a really interesting tool fedora developed that looks like it has some potential for ubuntu11:26
ikoniaI'm having a little play with that11:26
ikoniathats "interesting"11:26
MyrttiI just had an intresting nap11:26
Myrttiwhile waiting for a debian netinst image to download11:26
jussi01ikonia: what is it?11:28
ikoniathe cd respin utility11:29
elkbuntui thought there was already an ubuntu respin utility11:30
* jussi01 thought so also...11:30
ikoniathere are ways, I'm just quite impressed at how this one works, very tidy11:30
ikoniaone of the things that this seems to have a little potential for is cross host/arch/media and even distro compatability11:31
ikoniaI'm only poking around as I think it's quite cleverly put together11:31
elkbuntuim currently playing with a util called unetbootin, trying to get something resembling a livecd to boot off a usbkey so i can install in this damn eeepc11:32
jussi01!usb | elkbuntu11:33
ubottuelkbuntu: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent11:33
jussi01:P:P:P11:33
elkbuntuwhy do all that if this thing does it all for me?11:35
* jussi01 laughs evilly11:38
ikoniawhy is envy becoming the default for everyone11:41
elkbuntubecause we dont curse it anymore11:41
ikonia"I'm having issues with nvidia" first thing everyone jumps on is "envy"11:42
elkbuntuit's a hard habit to break11:45
elkbuntuim glad we're hearing much less of ax now though11:45
ikoniaax ?11:45
elkbuntuautomatix11:45
ikoniaooh yes11:45
ikoniathats gone away properly, very pleased with that11:45
elkbuntuautobreakix11:46
ikoniaI'm glad the "war" has stopped too11:46
ikoniathat was the killing part of it11:46
elkbuntuyeha11:46
elkbuntuthere are never any winners in wars11:46
ikonianope, everyone lost11:46
elkbuntuyup11:46
elkbuntuit's about who lost least11:47
ikoniawell....it's gone and I see that as a positive thing11:47
elkbuntuthere's a good churchhill quote to the tune of the above11:47
elkbuntuat least i think it's churchill11:49
elkbuntuoh you are f...... someone just found -au-chat11:57
elkbuntuby 'just i mean about 20 minutes ago, and by -au-chat i mean both it and -au11:57
jussi01elkbuntu: ?11:58
jussi01someone?11:58
Myrttiwhut?11:58
elkbuntujussi01, yes. a certain someone.11:58
elkbuntuhmm, she actually found it this afternoon12:03
Myrttierh.12:06
Myrttidmseg at ot12:06
Myrttiwhat the hell is he up to12:09
ikoniaI wonder how the audit is going ;)12:12
ikoniawhat site is dmesg on about ?12:23
Myrttihttp://rohan.ueuo.com/ - his own12:24
ikoniaoh, he's pushed that a few times in ubuntu12:24
Myrttifor god sake12:24
ikoniaI think we have the key12:24
ikonia[quote] I am 14-years old [/quote]12:24
ikoniathat makes sense now12:25
MyrttiWHERE IS THAT??12:25
ikoniaon his site12:25
elkbuntuon the site12:25
ikonianow it make sense12:25
elkbunturead the paragraph on the site and rofl12:25
ikonia(not that being 14 year old is bad) but his mannerisms12:25
elkbuntuare quite stereotypically accurate12:26
Myrttiokies.12:26
Myrttithat *would* explain things.12:26
MyrttiPedo mellon a minno.12:27
jussi01ok, I need to actually see that someone reads my blog... anybody care to make a few nice! comments?12:27
ikoniajussi01: url12:27
jpdshmm12:28
jussi01jussi01.com12:28
jussi01now he is trying @btlogin?12:28
Picio.O12:28
jussi01sigh...12:28
jpdsjussi01: Where?12:28
* Pici sighs @ #kubuntu12:28
Picithat works ;)12:29
ikoniajussi01: I've read that before12:29
jussi01comments then!!12:29
Myrtticommented already12:29
jussi01jpds: you stole my thunder!!12:29
ikoniaok ok12:29
jpdsjussi01: Oh mein Gott.12:29
ikoniajussi01: I've just put a link on my site to yours, hows that for commitment :)12:30
jussi01ikonia: great :D12:31
jussi01ikonia: what is your site?12:31
* jpds wonders what dmesg did here: http://rohan.ueuo.com/index2.htm12:32
ikoniadown at this second as the box is running a fedora upgrade12:32
ikoniajussi01: give it 25 mins and it will be back12:32
Myrttijpds: catted some binary file12:32
PiciI was thinking the same thing12:32
jpdsMyrtti: Aww, I wanted his boot to be messed up..12:33
Pici`reset` would have fixed it12:33
ikoniawhat the devil is this guy on about ?12:36
jussi01someone shoot im already...12:38
elkbuntuwe dont actually have grounds to atm12:40
* Pici thinks we should lay off him12:40
Picior at least give him a little slack, maybe he'd focus his energy to something more constructive.12:40
elkbuntulike auditing us out of the blue?12:41
ikoniaI'm not on him, I just don't understand what he's trying to acomplish, and why he's name dropping people he appears to have never had a public conversation with12:41
Myrttifor crying out loud12:41
gnomefreakno CC meeting?12:42
gnomefreakits on fridge for today12:42
PiciMaybe there was a translation error for 'auditing', because tht makes no sense.12:42
elkbuntuapparantly not12:42
elkbuntuPici, you werent around the other day?12:43
Picielkbuntu: I wasnt...12:43
elkbuntu* dmseg (n=luke@unaffiliated/dmseg) has joined #ubuntu-ops12:44
elkbuntu<dmseg> hello, auditing will start now at 6:02PM IST (non-freenode) time every conversation will be loged and displayed on public boards for auditing thankyou12:44
gnomefreakand the point of it is?12:45
Picielkbuntu: well... maybe not a translation error, but that still doesnt make sense...12:45
* Pici facedesks12:45
gnomefreakPici: it does for the most part12:45
Picignomefreak: 'why'?12:45
gnomefreakPici: why? auditing without looking it up is observing/logging than commenting/criticing12:46
gnomefreakmaybe poor choice of words12:46
gnomefreakbut its used nomrally when someone breaks laws/rules12:46
gnomefreakthey look into it12:47
Picignomefreak: No. I understand what auiditing is.12:47
ikoniaI wonder if any of the guys he name dropped are actually aware of him ?12:47
gnomefreakPici: what part doesnt make sense?12:47
elkbuntuikonia, they're probably aware of something gnawing at their ankles12:47
Picignomefreak: having joe random come in here and do it.12:47
elkbuntuor at least long enough to kick it off12:47
gnomefreakwe can remove whomever and for whatever reason12:48
Picielkbuntu: What day was that? I want to check the published logs12:48
gnomefreaki want to know what the content will be used for and why is he going to atttempt to do this12:48
elkbuntu12th about midday sometime12:48
gnomefreaksaterday12:49
ikoniagnomefreak: he told me the feedback was "positive"12:49
ikonia??12:49
elkbuntugnomefreak, you have missed so much, m'dear12:49
elkbuntugnomefreak, we've entered a new phase of opping where we're chastised for disciplining trolls if they scream loud enough12:49
gnomefreaki notice but noone can really answer my question so it doesnt look like many/any understand why he is attempting it12:49
elkbuntugnomefreak, because nobody has a clue wth he's doing12:49
gnomefreakwhos idea was this, this happened whil ei was gone from jan > may12:50
gnomefreakidea == new op procedures?12:50
elkbuntucertain annoying people who perceive that they got their way with the cc12:50
gnomefreakdmes doesnt bother me to much (topic says or said we have the right to remove people  ect...12:51
gnomefreakelkbuntu: that would be emma and the other 2 people12:51
gnomefreaknames escape me12:51
elkbuntukahrytan being the second, not sure who you're thinking of other than that12:52
gnomefreaknone of that has anything to do with logging the channel though so they cant use that as excuse to set us up (us being anyone/everyone12:52
elkbuntuprobably emma's co-conspiritor.12:52
ikonianah, he's just a young guy trying to get involved with $something12:53
elkbuntumind you, merely talking about them now risks them barging in to tell us off for merely communicating12:53
gnomefreakthere was someone that nick started with a b but he wasnt on agenda but decided to speak interupting the meeting12:53
elkbuntuheavens forbid you be kept in the loop and all, in a public channel since we're supposed to stay transparent and a private channel would not be one hence we cannot have one.12:53
jpdsikonia: I know how people like that can be sometimes..12:54
bazhanghaha12:54
gnomefreakone of Hobbsee and emmas friend/aquantence pmed me during the meeting because he didnt know how to take it ( i have learned to not give info to people every if personal agenda behide it12:54
elkbuntuim not sure hobbsee and emma have any mutual friends12:55
ikoniajpds: exactly, youthful exuberence12:55
gnomefreaknow dmesg is doing something that can be taken as a hostile action, logging/auditing channel to log everything an op does so if ops says "insert user is a troll" he can go to CC and bark12:55
gnomefreakelkbuntu: they do did from what he said12:55
gnomefreaklet me see if i can find his nick12:56
elkbuntuhe could well be inventing friendship somehow12:56
Hobbseeoh, what fun do we have here now?12:56
gnomefreakdont see his nick anywhere12:57
Piciout out damned spot12:57
gnomefreakelkbuntu: very possible12:57
elkbuntuPici, you sound like you're quoting mcbeth12:57
elkbuntuor, lady mcbeth12:57
Picielkbuntu: I was indeed.12:57
Myrttieverything seems so... dark12:57
Myrttialmost... black.12:58
PiciWhy? I dont know, it just popped into my head.12:58
Myrttiyes... bllllaack.12:58
MyrttiMUST PAINT THE BLACK OUT!12:58
* Mez hugs Myrtti 12:58
bazhangmore like the stones12:58
* Myrtti hugs back12:58
gnomefreakblack == sleep but i cant for atleast 13 more hours12:58
Myrttithough I do think the Fast Show - Babylon 5 crossover jokes were the best12:59
Hobbseeelkbuntu: me either.12:59
gnomefreakits lunch time in berlin right?13:00
MyrttiKosh exits his cabin: "This season I 'ave been mosely wearin' my encounter suit!"13:01
* Pici never watched B513:01
Myrttithree psycore cops sitting by a desk. after a while: copper 3: "I'll get me coat"13:02
ikoniajust talking to an op in ##linux-ops he's nothing to do with the channel13:02
ikoniahe asked about mirrors, they rejected it as no-one wanted it, he asked about bots, they didn't want one13:02
Myrttiand still he's pushing13:02
ikoniaapprantly he's a bit of a thorn in their side trying to help out but doesn't have any skills they want13:03
jpdsCan someone tell me what https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1 gives them?13:10
Picijpds: The same thing that it gave the last time I looked at it and laughed13:10
* gnomefreak looks13:11
jpdsPici: Thought so.13:11
Picijpds: (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)13:11
jpdswww.cacert.org uses an invalid security certificate.13:11
gnomefreakyeah new feature13:11
gnomefreakyou can get it anyway13:11
gnomefreakjust add exception13:11
PiciIt may have been complaining about it being self signed the last time I looked, but it was definitly giving me a security error13:12
gnomefreakits not really an error its just firefox cant confirm the cert. due to it being self signed13:13
gnomefreakit sounded alot better before it was implented13:14
Pici...13:35
Picilimcore13:35
HobbseePici: what about him?13:37
bazhangugh13:37
PiciHobbsee: in #ubuntu, complaining. * LimCore bitchslaps someone for making applications start silently and connect to inet without question... what is this, windows?13:37
Hobbseekmail doesn't.13:38
ikoniastaight away "why the F"13:38
HobbseePici: point out to him that kde saves sessions by default.13:38
ikoniahe's had enough language warnings and knows the deal13:38
bazhangindeed.13:38
bazhanghe had a project (allegedly) called stfu13:39
Hobbseetell him he knows where he can get support instead13:39
Hobbseehe knows about the 'premier ubuntu channel'13:39
Tm_THobbsee: oooh, there's one of those too?13:40
HobbseeTm_T: dude, have you been living under a rock for the past....like...6 months?13:40
Hobbseeit has a certain female mentioned here earlier running it.13:41
Tm_THobbsee: yeah, I have been less observing lately13:42
* Tm_T is an old hermit13:43
HobbseeTm_T: it's the place that many people were getting recruited to13:43
Tm_Taaah, that one13:43
Tm_TI think I remember the thing now13:43
Hobbseeikonia: heh, nice call13:55
ikoniaenough is enough13:55
ikoniahe does this on a regular basis13:55
ikoniait adds no value and just serves to cause a row13:55
ikoniahe's not interested in fixing any issues, just ranting about what a failure ubuntu is13:56
Piciholarious quality?13:56
jpdsikonia: Who, where?13:57
ikoniahe's not native english, can't call him on that13:57
ikoniajpds: limcore in #ubuntu13:57
Hobbseepity.  i can't blame it on his binary driver.14:04
ikoniaI don't doubt he has valid bugs, it's how he goes about it14:05
Hobbseeoh, sure14:05
ikonia"ubuntu is rubbish, total failure ubuntu should make everything work"14:05
Hobbseeyeah, well.14:05
ikoniait's regular as clock work14:05
Hobbseei'm surprised that he's the only one who's found that bug though.14:05
ikoniait's not a common used application, although I'm surprised it got through test14:05
ikoniaassuming he's using the repo versions14:05
Hobbseeit probably wasn't tested.14:06
Hobbseeat least, not since the later version of X14:06
ikoniawhich repo is it in ?14:06
Hobbseeours14:06
ikoniaI mean multi/uni/core14:06
Hobbseesmackdown.14:06
Hobbseeuniverse14:07
ikoniasmackdown ?14:07
ikoniaoh14:07
Hobbseeoh, there's a later version of it14:07
elkbuntuthe fun thing is that half the stuff he comes up with wouldnt happen in windows or mac either14:08
elkbuntubedtime mydearies. dont let the trolls bite too hard14:11
Hobbseeheh14:11
Hobbseewell, intrepid has the working version, so...14:11
elkbuntuif you must feed them, remember the chainmail glove14:11
Hobbseeas to why it's taken this long for anyone, especially him, to do anything constructive about it, i don't know.14:11
elkbuntuhuh?14:12
Hobbseeuh, boltclock...wasn't he in here for that quit message?14:12
ikoniaHobbsee: good call14:13
ikoniawhere is he ?14:13
ikoniaI keep missing him and he's not responded to a pm14:13
Hobbseehe just quit #ubuntu14:13
ikoniarats14:13
Hobbsee[23:12] <-- BoltClock has left this channel ("Remember: don't use `sudo rm -rf /`!").14:13
ikoniayeah, he's still got that14:14
ikoniaI sent him a pm but looks like he's not changed it,14:14
elkbuntubanforward him here14:14
elkbuntuby orders of a councillor.14:14
elkbuntuand memo him and pray he figures how to see it14:14
ikoniait seemed a bit harsh as he's not at fault, but because he keeps being missed I guess we'll have to14:14
elkbuntutry a memo first then if you're unsure14:15
elkbuntubut nobody says 'dont press the red button' without expecting people to try press said red button14:15
ikoniaok, I'll leave a memo and see if I can catch him online as few people pickup memoserv14:15
ikoniabut failing that I guess ban forward him14:15
ikoniaI know, thats why it seems sensible to change it14:15
elkbuntuand why he has no excuse not to14:16
ikoniagot him14:16
ikoniahe's online14:16
elkbuntucool14:16
elkbuntui'm going to bed since my washing has finished and my left eye has closed for the night already14:17
elkbuntuno, it's my right eye14:17
ikoniagood night,14:17
elkbuntuim going to bed since i cant tell my left from my right14:17
jussi01night elkbuntu14:20
Hobbseei'm pleased to see that he's gone silent, once there is actually a fix14:21
ikoniait's changed14:21
Hobbseeand, it's actually the fault of the upstream guys, as they didnt' fix their broken software quickly enough14:21
ikonianicley fixed14:22
Hobbseeand that we didn't pick it up14:22
ikoniaany idea what unavailable in #ubuntu is really after, he's being very dubious about what he's actually asking for14:43
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)17:05
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)17:05
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)17:05
jussi01oh yummy17:06
Picidarn, I need to make that hilight do the whole line17:06
ubottugordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu ()17:07
RobertBopkinshello17:08
Myrttilol as ident and heh as realname17:08
Myrttireally assuring...17:08
RobertBopkinsWhen I installed Linux it asked me for my credit card number. Two days later I got a call from Wachovia asking me if I had purchased $400 worth of Totino's pizza rolls and Mountain Dew (I hadn't). Let this be a warning to all of you out there in the Internet.17:08
ikoniaRobertBopkins: are you attempting to waste peoples time ?17:09
Picijussi01: did you mean to forward this here?17:09
RobertBopkinsdo you think this is a joke?17:09
RobertBopkinsi installed ubuntu the other day, and it asked me for my creditcard17:09
RobertBopkinsi will not stand for ubuntu scamming people17:10
RobertBopkinslike this17:10
ikoniaRobertBopkins: where did you get the CD from ?17:10
RobertBopkinsthe internet17:10
ikoniaRobertBopkins: where on the internet17:10
RobertBopkinswww.ubuntufree.on.nimp.org17:11
ikoniaahh so thats just spam17:11
ikoniacan we stick a ban on him17:11
jussi01right then17:11
Myrttiwhat is that url?17:11
Picidone17:11
Myrttinoted that the most recent exploiter had also given that url on #ubuntu17:12
ikoniaexploit17:12
ikoniasurly thats kline ?17:12
Myrttithen it might be time to poke s t ff17:12
PiciMyrtti: anything that is something.nimp.org or something.pasteplace.net is a shocksite-java-browsercrash-etc-badthing site17:12
Myrttiah17:12
* Pici pokes stuff17:12
jpdsPici: Hmm, you hilighted me.17:13
MyrttiPici: "ha   ha"17:13
Picijpds: yay17:13
MyrttiPici: was that an automatic kick or did you do it by hand?17:16
ikoniastrying to get hold of staff in #freenode now17:17
ikoniamay have to summon them as thats not a cool thing to post17:17
ikonia!staff17:17
ubottuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)17:17
jussi01Pici: thanks for sorting that17:19
Picijussi01: np17:19
ikoniaquite a clever way to launch an exploit through flash17:23
naliothMyrtti: anything 'on . ni mp . org' should be an autokickban17:25
ikoniagood to know17:25
ikoniawhy do hosts allow that ?17:25
ikoniasomeone must have setup ubuntuisfree dns entry17:25
TheSheepuh, oh, the !rosetta factoid has wrong url17:26
Myrtti!rosetta17:26
ubotturosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about17:26
Myrttiand what should it have?17:26
TheSheeplooking for it now17:26
Myrttinalioth: "can I please have an autokick on someone mentioning the word whore?"17:26
naliothMyrtti: the word '17:27
naliothwhore' doesn't damage folks' systems or deliver malware17:27
Myrttinalioth: note quotes17:27
Myrtti:-P17:27
TheSheepMyrtti: maybe https://translations.launchpad.net/ ?17:28
TheSheepor just https://launchpad.net/rosetta17:28
Myrtti!rosetta ~= /https:\/\/launchpad.net\/rosetta\/+about/https:\/\/launchpad.net\/rosetta/17:32
ubottuToo many (or not enough) delimiters17:32
Myrttiho-hum.17:32
jussi01!no, rosetta is <reply>rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language. See https://launchpad.net/rosetta17:34
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0117:34
jussi01!rosetta17:35
ubotturosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language. See https://launchpad.net/rosetta17:35
jussi01:)17:35
TheSheepjussi01: thanks17:35
jussi01TheSheep: no probs17:43
Myrttijussi01: lol, see what ubottu did just on -ot17:55
PiciIts good no one else is in my office right no, they all would have been staring at me laughing17:55
Picis/no/now17:55
jussi01rofl17:56
ubottuwols called the ops in #ubuntu (edeff)18:25
jpdsHe's gone.18:26
naliothy'all be sharp now, trouble may come knocking18:29
PiciJack_Sparrow: Trouble be thy name?18:47
Jack_SparrowI am usually in trouble for something, whats up18:48
PiciNothing special18:48
Jack_SparrowNothing more than normal18:48
PiciExactly18:48
Jack_SparrowHows things been here.  I have been a bit busy18:49
Jack_SparrowI have only checked the channel a few times here and there18:49
PiciIts been pretty busy here, just regular sort of junk.18:49
Jack_SparrowSame network and video issues18:50
PiciThere was a bad flash update that went out, but its been corrected.18:50
Jack_SparrowTHe occasional clown wanting to run game emulator under wine, in ubuntu installed via wubi and accessible to ntfs prgrams18:51
Jack_Sparrow:)18:51
Myrttihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2671276351/ ♥19:28
PriceChildI'm happy with Flannel being an op (+1)20:21
ompaul+7720:24
ompauljussi01, ping pong20:28
jussi01ompaul: ding dong20:29
ompaulI has too many confusers20:29
* ompaul looks for something to grumble about20:29
ompaulahh jussi01 prepare for pm20:29
Myrttioh noes it is an ompaul20:29
* jussi01 runs20:30
* ompaul still looks for something to grumble about20:31
ompaulif jussi01 does do what was asked I will have work to do - and not have time to grumble ;-)20:31
jussi01ompaul: Im in the middle of ixing my network connection atm - I dont have a dns :/20:34
jussi01can someone give me a public dns for now?20:35
ompauljussi01, just a sec20:36
ompauljussi01, this is what I use 208.67.222.22220:37
jussi01ompaul: Thanks!20:37
ompaulit is one of those ones funny ones if you get a wrong query on web traffic it sends you some adverts20:37
ompaulharmless enough20:37
ompaul208.67.220.22020:37
ompaulis their other one20:37
jussi01!test20:39
ubottuFailed!20:39
ompauljussi01, if they fail then you got serious problems20:39
jussi01ompaul: nah, its working now :D20:39
ompaulgood20:39
MyrttiI was about to give the exact same ip's20:40
ompaulcopyMyrtti is not as funny as lolMyrtti20:40
MyrttiNow playing "Butterfly" by Rajaton. ♥20:41
Myrttiompaul: well I do know opendns.com too...20:41
* ompaul is listening to Mr Bob The Dylan his sellllf20:41
Myrttithe video of that song by Rajaton has great scenery from Finland20:41
ompaulahhh20:42
Myrttihttp://youtube.com/watch?v=oghj7y4hluU20:42
Myrttiand the lyrics are great too20:42
ompaulnot quite the basshunter20:43
ompaulhehe20:43
* ompaul runs20:43
TheSheepgreat scenery = wall of trees and mist20:43
MyrttiTheSheep: Finland ♥20:43
TheSheepboring20:45
Myrttihi DBO20:45
ompaulDBO, helllllo20:45
DBOhello all20:46
DBOim looking for the Intrepid roadmap20:46
DBOneed to get gnome-do 0.6 pushed out in time for feature freeze20:46
ompaulhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule20:46
ompaulnot that20:46
DBOthat works20:47
naliothDBO: can we help you?20:47
DBOwe got a month20:47
DBOhmmm20:47
ompaulnalioth, you do not remember dbo?20:47
naliothompaul: i don't know who that is.20:47
DBOnot unless you can hook me up with an artist, we are kinda doing a release sprint20:47
ompaulwell he could do with a cloak20:48
naliothhai, DBO :)20:48
DBOthat help?20:48
DBOompaul, hes just messing with me20:48
DBOi dont ident on this computer a lot20:48
ompaulmost likely20:48
naliothjust like i mess with all folks who show their slip20:48
DBOhai nalioth =)20:48
* ompaul wonders what dota is20:48
ompaulsome game of some sort iirc20:49
naliothwho are all these idling people?20:49
ompaulnalioth, clear20:50
ompaulas in they are20:50
naliothi poke people on their lack of credentials, because i have no small experience with nick-thieves and social engineers20:50
jussi01I says we kicks them all out...20:50
ompaulleave juliu^^x alone thanks ;-)20:50
Myrttiompaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients20:51
naliothquery their purposes and have at it20:51
ompauland I know others will speak for others20:51
ompaulMyrtti, thanks20:51
ompaul"Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" by Swedish musician Basshunter reached the European 2006 charts at #116 and cracked the top ten Singles Charts in Sweden20:51
* ompaul is currently listening to it20:52
ompaul!kirby20:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kirby20:53
ompaul!kirby | public20:53
ompaulsome poor person20:53
ompaulohh well20:53
Myrtti!kirby-#ubuntu-offtopic | ompaul20:54
ubottuompaul: <(^.^<) <(^.^)> (>^.^)>20:54
ompaulack20:54
ompaulplease check lil-romeo in #u not sure20:56
jussi01ompaul: Im sorry, Im real busy atm . Ill get you that stuff you asked for soon20:57
ompauljussi01, np after the weekend is good20:58
ompaulmost likely better20:58
jussi01Has anyone seen stdin recently?21:02
jpdsjussi01: Maybe he's getting ready for lugradio? or something..21:04
jussi01jpds: yeah, good point21:04
Myrttitalking of which, I should continue cleaning this place up21:05
ompaulMyrtti, travellog21:06
ompauland travelling21:06
ompaulor log the travelling21:06
Myrttiyou think?21:06
ompaulI refer to about 48 hours from now21:06
ompaulno wrong21:07
ompaulohh well21:07
Myrttihm, was thinking about that today21:07
Myrttiperhaps I should21:07
ompaulok we need supplies21:07
ompauland so it is I go to get same21:07
ompaullater21:07
Myrttitatah21:08
* Myrtti sighs, goes to roll the rugs away21:11
PriceChildMyrtti: ompaul: whover_else: when are you getting here? Will you be at the social thing Friday night?21:14
MyrttiPriceChild: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=18&month=07&year=2008&hour=12&min=40&sec=&p0=13621:15
Myrttithat's for my plane21:15
PriceChildMyrtti: ah so you get here about lunchtime21:15
Myrtti:-P21:15
PriceChildwasn't my way easier? :D21:16
Myrttiyeah, but I'll prolly have a nap and shower before doing anything social21:16
PriceChildyup21:16
* PriceChild finds details of evening thing21:16
PriceChildhttp://lugradio.org/live/UK2008/travel#friday_night21:17
MyrttiI'm already scared ****less over traveling - haven't packed yet anything else than the tinned reindeer and this place is a mess - and I can't remember my credit card pin and cant print my eticket and am afraid of the travel part - staying awake...21:17
MyrttiI'm actually quite surprised how calmly I'm acting now21:17
PriceChildit is scary going abroad on own21:18
PriceChildwell not so scary21:18
PriceChildbut paranoia inducing21:18
PriceChildfor me anyway :P21:18
PriceChildso yes, Myrtti has no excuse21:20
Myrttiexcuse for what? :-P21:20
Myrttifor not being at Hogshead that evening?21:21
PriceChildmmhm21:22
MyrttiI guarantee nothing - remember I have to leave home about 12hrs before my plane arrives to UK21:22
Myrttiso I'll prolly stay awake the previous night21:22
Tm_Tkids kids kids...21:22
jussi01jpds: fyi, I texted him - his internet is screwed,21:31
jpdsjussi01: Right.21:31
Jack_SparrowPici I did all updates on a gutsy box and still show the old Pidgin version.  What should I look for.21:38
jussi01!away > gardar`afk21:53
ubottugardar`afk, please see my private message21:53
jussi01hi AfeRaTa21:55
AfeRaTahui21:55
Myrttihorrible!21:55
AfeRaTaq21:56
Myrttiawful!21:56
AfeRaTamy21:56
=== AfeRaTa is now known as darkuk
MyrttiAfeRaTa: yes?21:56
darkukasl Myrtti21:56
darkukpyrti :)21:56
ompauldarkuk, you are in a school in coventry21:56
darkukyou proxy21:57
darkukyou lamer the best :)21:57
ompaulbad call21:57
Jack_Sparrow:)21:57
ompaulyou want to know what I think21:57
naliothdarkuk: can we help you?21:57
darkukmy nokia N95 8 gb :)21:57
ompaulnalioth, he claims a proxy21:57
darkuki am Bulgari21:57
darkukBg chackeR21:57
darkuk:)21:57
naliothompaul: no comprende21:57
* Myrtti mails abuse@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk, postmaster@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk and webmaster@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk21:57
ompaulthats a good place to start21:58
Myrttiho-HUM21:58
darkukbye bye :)21:58
ompaulidiot21:58
Myrttisomehow I get a feeling that they might not know they've got a proxy running open like that21:58
jussi01gah, what did I miss...21:59
* nalioth has no idea21:59
ompaulMyrtti, if they have an open proxy they will be banned from freenode21:59
ompaul99% of the time21:59
ompaulhttp://www.thw.coventry.sch.uk/22:00
ompaulEmail: enquiries@thw.coventry.sch.uk22:00
Myrttiis there any tuition on schools in UK at this time of year?22:05
ompaulthere can be22:05
ompaulexchange students etc22:06
ompaulask PC for details22:06
Myrttiseems to be22:07
ompaulthat school is open until 18th July22:07
Myrttilooked at their schedule22:07
Myrttiyup22:07
ompauldamn I would not like us to be the bad guys ;-)22:07
ompaulwoo would not be good for your network22:07
ompaulwe take you on official and unofficial programs22:07
MyrttiI find it somewhat disturbing that his host is what it was22:08
Myrttiand the ident22:08
jussi01Myrtti: errr, wait a second... you arent???22:08
ompaulI had this years ago with a school22:08
Myrttiam I paranoid, writing this email?22:08
jussi01Myrtti: no22:09
ompaulwait until tomorrow when they are there and this person is not22:09
ompaulor at least is otherwise occupied22:09
ompauland send a copy to attendance :)22:09
ompaulunder separate cover22:09
jussi01 /me is glad ompaul is on his side :D22:10
ompaulhehe22:10
elkbuntu+1 for flannel as op22:16
* elkbuntu heads to the trains22:17
ompaulAfeRaTa, ohh hi22:18
ompaulban avoidance really is against network aup22:18
AfeRaTawho is the bitch ? :)22:18
ompaulnalioth, look who is back22:19
ompaulhmm22:19
ompaulbut why I ask myself22:19
naliothwell, well, well22:20
ompaulI think you can do something with that I take it22:20
darkuk:)22:20
ompauland here we go again22:20
ompaulnalioth, that is three IPs I got for ya that are proxies :)22:21
ompaulahh22:21
ompaulI would gladly let him in as someone else time and again22:22
ompaulMyrtti, so now you know it is a proxy user :)22:22
Myrttiso would I22:22
Myrttiare you sure proxy, not cracked root account=?22:22
mneptok"we outsourced our proxy scanning to bulgaria."22:22
naliotheither way, they need sorting22:22
Myrttiwould someone want to be in cc of this email? pm address22:23
jussi01Myrtti: me please22:23
jussi01you have my addy22:23
Myrttianyone else? hitting [ Send ] in 15s22:25
naliothMyrtti: me at gmail.com22:25
naliothme being my nick22:25
nalioth:)22:25
ompaulMyrtti, if you can find me ;-)22:25
MyrttiI've written too many emails in my life.22:32
Myrttiwhat is bubbling in -ot?22:33
* PriceChild throws Myrtti in head first22:34
ompaul@btlogin22:35
* ompaul does research22:35
naliothi guess i'm a geek when i recognize geekcode22:37
PriceChildThere seem to be 3 +1s for Flannel from the council, who wants to poke him?22:41
naliothwhen did elky speak up?22:42
PriceChild26 minutes ago22:43
ompaulasked to get in here22:44
ompaulyou can has fun then22:44
* ompaul is going to bed22:44
PriceChildHe seems to be away atm anyway.22:44
ompaulso you can call later22:44
ompaul:)22:44
naliothhe'll come back to a horrible surprise, won't he then?22:44
jussi01PriceChild: we need to sort out this ubuntu studio thing22:44
PriceChildjussi01: yup22:45
ompaulwhat is the problem / lack of a problem with it22:45
jussi01mma has given me the resonsibility for getting it done22:45
PriceChildcould you clarify on what it is to be done?22:45
PriceChildor is it letting us choose?22:45
ompaullogtastic22:45
* ompaul revs up22:45
jussi01PriceChild: the latter - we would like a council proposal22:46
PriceChildjussi01: right ok.22:46
jussi01PriceChild: Ive not been party to this process before, so I guess Im still learning22:46
PriceChildjussi01: but basically along the lines of "happy with the council overlooking the #ubuntustudio project on freenode" kinda thing?22:47
jussi01PriceChild: exactly :)22:47
PriceChildjussi01: cool.22:47
jussi01PriceChild: we want to be in line with normal ubuntu policy as possible :)22:48
jussi01as per a normal official derivative22:48
PriceChildjussi01: well i guess that means we need to sort out a gcf, (after explaining what that entails to ubuntustudio) get them to approve it, make a little statement somewhere about it.22:49
jussi01PriceChild: what is a gcf exactly?22:49
PriceChildgroup contact form22:49
jussi01linky?22:49
* Myrtti makes a mental note on 00:49 @,- TGD [n=gts@host86-137-118-255.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["DSOrganize IRC"]22:49
PriceChildhttp://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml22:49
jussi01PriceChild: ahh, ok - yes :)22:50
PriceChildjussi01: basically making freenode know that 'foo' is the 'bar project's spokesperson, and will liase between the two organisations.22:50
PriceChildwell that's the most noticable bit anyway22:50
jussi01PriceChild: so it doesnt come under the ubuntu hat? or?22:51
PriceChildjussi01: I would guess that we would refile our existing gcf, tacking the ubuntustudio bit on the end with kubuntu,xubuntu etc. but that's something for us to worry about.22:52
PriceChildAnd hopefully after all this, we'll never need to worry about it and everything will be the same as it was before.22:52
jussi01PriceChild: ahh, ok. but we still need to do one?22:52
PriceChildIt would be handy.22:53
PriceChildBecause of the "Additional channel management capabilities."22:53
jussi01ok, will do. - should I just get it filled out and submitted then?22:54
PriceChildnope22:54
naliothjussi01: patience is a virtue22:54
mneptoklanguage is a virus.22:54
jussi01nalioth: hehe :D I know, just trying to make sure I dont screw it up :D22:55
PriceChildI'm disappearing in 5 mins22:55
jussi01PriceChild: ahh - later then :)22:55
Myrttiwatch out for Xavura - he quit now but I suspect he'll be back23:09
mneptokthat guy rubs me the wrong way, too23:11
mneptokprolly 'cause i'm old, and he's fighting puberty23:11
Myrttimeh23:19
Picimeh indeed23:19
Jack_SparrowMyrtti I directed him here23:19
Myrtti01:18 < dragon_> is there another chat I should be in for help with ubuntu 8.04?23:19
Myrtti01:18 < SebNaitsabes> dragon23:19
Myrtti01:18 < SebNaitsabes> you can try23:19
Myrtti01:18 @,- kedde [n=kedde@563459f8.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Ex-Chat"]23:19
Myrtti01:18 < SebNaitsabes> #club-ubuntu23:19
Myrtti[B[B[B[B23:19
XavuraWhy am I banned for saying hell?23:20
Myrttiyou're not banned for saying only that23:20
XavuraSure, it's the rules, but it's pretty pathetic, considering it ISN'T a swear word23:21
XavuraWhat am I banned for then?23:21
XavuraEnlighten me.23:21
XavuraSure I haven't shown the most positive attitude, I'm in the worst of moods, I'm sorry I am not able to act all happy wappy in your presence and pretend like everything is all good23:22
XavuraI'm sorry that I can't mask my frustration23:22
Xavurabut really23:22
Myrttiyour ranting about things not working wasn't helping you or anyone else. You were told to stop as it was counterproductive and disturbing the normal flow of the channel23:22
Myrttiwhich you ignored23:22
XavuraWell things weren't working, people told me to try things, things which I had tried already numerous times and they didn't work either23:23
Xavuraand everytime someone "helped" it created even MORE problems23:23
XavuraI wouldn't call that productive, would you?23:23
Jack_SparrowXavura Paid professional support is available23:25
Myrttiactually, given their solutions should've worked (I've not followed them), yes23:25
XavuraOh yeah, that's cute.23:25
Xavurawell nothing seemed to work23:26
Myrttiwe cannot guarantee the quality of help at #ubuntu to each and every user23:26
Xavuraeverything created more problems that just kept building up and up23:26
XavuraI know the support is voluntary23:26
XavuraI know there are no guarantees23:26
Xavurabut still, it's not good is it23:26
Jack_SparrowThe solutions should have worked, unless something had been done previously that kept them from working23:26
XavuraSomething that had been suggested by someone, previously23:26
Jack_SparrowTHat is not the point.  Your attitude is the point of this discussion23:27
XavuraHow would your attitude be after 14~ hours of trying to fix things, only to have more problems be created23:27
Myrttiwell, given that there are 1300 people in #ubuntu, all volunteer, who've tried their best to help you23:28
MyrttiI *wouldn't* go ranting there23:28
XavuraHow long do these bans last? I kind of need my computer to work.23:29
PiciThey last until we remove them.23:29
XavuraGuh23:30
Xavuraand how is the time to remove them decided...23:30
Myrttiand that is dependant on you23:30
XavuraI mean, not like it matters to you one bit, support is as previously mentioned voluntary... but how long do I have to be stuck without a working computer for?23:31
naliothyou an always reinstall it23:32
XavuraAgain? No thanks23:32
XavuraYou say it's dependant on me, dependant on *what* exactly?23:33
nalioththen it seems you "don't need your computer to worK" as you are letting on23:33
XavuraNot enough to re-install no23:33
XavuraI have data I will lose, data I can't back up23:33
Pici18:27:19 <Jack_Sparrow> THat is not the point.  Your attitude is the point of this discussion23:33
MyrttiXavura: the length of your ban is decided by the op placing the ban based on your personal behaviour and the "personal growth" and "attitude adjustment" you show23:33
Myrttihaving said that, I see it's way too late for me to be practising procrastination of sleep with IRC23:34
XavuraWell is my attittude still bad? If you think that then I may as well go back to Windows because right now I have no attitude at all, I went and vented for a few minutes and while I am not a happy chappy, I am not showing an attitude towards anyone here right now23:34
Xavuraand if you think I am, then you interpret what I say wrong23:34
Myrttiand I'll continue my personal growth in bed, nini all23:34
Picibyas Myrtti23:35
XavuraIf not then ok, but I have been accused of having an attitude before while enganging in normal conversation :\23:35
XavuraCould someone at least scroll up and find the paste that supposedly had my original xorg.conf in23:39
XavuraSo I have something to try...23:39
Myrttiomg, before I turn in for the night, found this. http://code.google.com/creative/radiohead/23:47
MyrttiWHOA.23:48
Myrttinow, really going in bed.23:48
XavuraHow do I set my keyboard layout to en-GB23:56
XavuraI can't log in without it23:56
XavuraMy password is full of symbols and en-US totally switches everything around23:56
XavuraSomeone already told me but it didn't work...23:57
XavuraPlease? I at least need to get into MY account even if everything is borked23:58
naliothXavura: this is not a support channel.  there are over 200 channels here that can help you with your X11 problem23:58
XavuraI know it isn't but I am banned from \ubuntu and if I try any other channel I will be redirected to \ubuntu, no?23:59
XavuraSee what I mean about the symbols...23:59

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