[01:33] <Pici> oops.
[01:34] <Pici> I accidentally issued sync on ubottu, I was looking for the sync factoid in a query window... hope it didnt do anything bad, it errored out.
[03:18]  * mneptok vomits erotically
[03:20] <nickrud> you should stay away from passion fruit, mneptok
[03:21] <mneptok> nickrud: why do you think i'm vomitting?!
[03:21] <mneptok> ;)
[03:48] <Pici> hrm..
[03:48] <Pici> Are legal drugs concidered o4o if alcohol isnt?
[03:49] <nickrud> context, abuse is abuse
[06:29] <Madpilot> dealt with
[06:47] <bazhang> sorted.
[06:48]  * Madpilot +1s Flannel for op-dom. It's long overdue...
[06:48]  * Flannel realises he's idling in -ops.  After triggering himself.
[06:48] <bazhang> haha
[06:48]  * bazhang seconds the motion
[06:55] <nickrud> it'll take a pronouncement from on high to get flannel to accept
[06:59] <Madpilot> nickrud, apparently I count as "on high"? Who knew? Flannel just indicated in PM that he'd be glad to accept op.
[06:59] <Madpilot> This is, of course, evidence of insanity... :)
[06:59] <bazhang> haha
[07:00] <nickrud> yup, you must be, that's proof positive. He's turned it down more than once
[07:00] <Madpilot> I've been bugging him to accept for ages, off and on.
[07:00] <nalioth> is he drunk?
[07:00]  * nickrud bows before Madpilot 
[07:01] <Madpilot> nalioth, if that's a pre-req for op, I need to hit the gin a lot more :)
[07:01] <nickrud> I think he just had a momentary lapse of reason
[07:05] <Madpilot> I have to admit I've almost entirely lost track of who's actually running Ubuntu IRCland recently
[07:05]  * bazhang points to nickrud 
[07:05] <Madpilot> who's actually confirming new ops/on the IRC council/etc?
[07:05] <bazhang> oh that
[07:06] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: the irc council
[07:06] <Hobbsee> supposedly
[07:06] <Hobbsee> but they're also supposed to have 5 members, and hold regular meetings, so....
[07:06] <nickrud> what's left of it
[07:06] <bazhang> confirming; not so much
[07:07] <nickrud> lol bazhang I'm in #ubuntu and that's it, there are many more people doing far more work than I
[07:07] <bazhang> but you are the calming presence nickrud :)
[07:08]  * nickrud gestures obscenely at bazhang in a mneptokian way
[07:08] <bazhang> hehe
[07:08] <Madpilot> so... do we even currently *have* a procedure for new ops and other access list modifications?
[07:09] <Hobbsee> i dobut it
[07:09] <Madpilot> mneptokian... some things should never be verbed...
[07:10] <bazhang> the ubuntu irc operator pages hasnt been updated since forever, if that equals confirmed
[07:11] <nalioth> +1 for flannel as op.
[07:11] <nalioth> now you just need to get pricey and elky to agree, and there's your majority of 5
[07:11] <bazhang> :)
[07:17] <bazhang> xavura
[07:42] <jpds> morning
[08:13] <Myrtti> WHAT, FLANNEL ISN'T OPS??!
[08:14]  * Myrtti reads her backlog
[08:14]  * Myrtti giggles
[08:28] <bazhang> phew
[08:43] <Myrtti> !test
[09:12] <ikonia> I hate this type of issue
[09:12] <ikonia> a guy comes in says wtf
[09:13] <ikonia> asked not to, he says he's tired, so his concentration slipped
[09:13] <ikonia> then come back when your not that tired
[09:13] <ikonia> I'm awake I'm awake
[09:14] <ikonia> the excuse backfires and then it changes to "I've got medical conditions"
[09:14] <bazhang> my brother has medical conditions is next
[09:15] <ikonia> ha ha
[09:15] <ikonia> genuinly laughing, nice come back
[09:15] <bazhang> thanks :)
[09:16] <jussi01> hehe
[09:16] <bazhang> must be full moon
[09:18] <Myrtti> that would explain yesterday
[09:18] <bazhang> :)
[09:18] <Myrtti> I swear to Gaia, I've not seen that much idiocy in air for a looooong time
[09:19] <bazhang> twas epic
[09:19] <jpds> It's summer, the trolls are not working.
[09:20] <bazhang> windowsxp (name) was my favorite
[09:21] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.jaiku.com/presence/39982183
[09:22] <ikonia> did you have a fun night last night ?
[09:25] <Myrtti> you could say that
[09:25] <ikonia> it was all quiet when I looked in before going out
[09:25] <Myrtti> count your blessings
[09:25] <bazhang> its always quiet before you leave.
[09:26]  * ikonia has the gift
[09:26] <bazhang> the one moment you turn away though...
[09:27] <jpds> Yep.
[11:25]  * Myrtti yawns
[11:26] <Myrtti> anything intresting going on?
[11:26] <jussi01> Myrtti: I was just thinking the same thing...
[11:26] <ikonia> I've found a really interesting tool fedora developed that looks like it has some potential for ubuntu
[11:26] <ikonia> I'm having a little play with that
[11:26] <ikonia> thats "interesting"
[11:26] <Myrtti> I just had an intresting nap
[11:26] <Myrtti> while waiting for a debian netinst image to download
[11:28] <jussi01> ikonia: what is it?
[11:29] <ikonia> the cd respin utility
[11:30] <elkbuntu> i thought there was already an ubuntu respin utility
[11:30]  * jussi01 thought so also...
[11:30] <ikonia> there are ways, I'm just quite impressed at how this one works, very tidy
[11:31] <ikonia> one of the things that this seems to have a little potential for is cross host/arch/media and even distro compatability
[11:31] <ikonia> I'm only poking around as I think it's quite cleverly put together
[11:32] <elkbuntu> im currently playing with a util called unetbootin, trying to get something resembling a livecd to boot off a usbkey so i can install in this damn eeepc
[11:33] <jussi01> !usb | elkbuntu
[11:33] <jussi01> :P:P:P
[11:35] <elkbuntu> why do all that if this thing does it all for me?
[11:38]  * jussi01 laughs evilly
[11:41] <ikonia> why is envy becoming the default for everyone
[11:41] <elkbuntu> because we dont curse it anymore
[11:42] <ikonia> "I'm having issues with nvidia" first thing everyone jumps on is "envy"
[11:45] <elkbuntu> it's a hard habit to break
[11:45] <elkbuntu> im glad we're hearing much less of ax now though
[11:45] <ikonia> ax ?
[11:45] <elkbuntu> automatix
[11:45] <ikonia> ooh yes
[11:45] <ikonia> thats gone away properly, very pleased with that
[11:46] <elkbuntu> autobreakix
[11:46] <ikonia> I'm glad the "war" has stopped too
[11:46] <ikonia> that was the killing part of it
[11:46] <elkbuntu> yeha
[11:46] <elkbuntu> there are never any winners in wars
[11:46] <ikonia> nope, everyone lost
[11:46] <elkbuntu> yup
[11:47] <elkbuntu> it's about who lost least
[11:47] <ikonia> well....it's gone and I see that as a positive thing
[11:47] <elkbuntu> there's a good churchhill quote to the tune of the above
[11:49] <elkbuntu> at least i think it's churchill
[11:57] <elkbuntu> oh you are f...... someone just found -au-chat
[11:57] <elkbuntu> by 'just i mean about 20 minutes ago, and by -au-chat i mean both it and -au
[11:58] <jussi01> elkbuntu: ?
[11:58] <jussi01> someone?
[11:58] <Myrtti> whut?
[11:58] <elkbuntu> jussi01, yes. a certain someone.
[12:03] <elkbuntu> hmm, she actually found it this afternoon
[12:06] <Myrtti> erh.
[12:06] <Myrtti> dmseg at ot
[12:09] <Myrtti> what the hell is he up to
[12:12] <ikonia> I wonder how the audit is going ;)
[12:23] <ikonia> what site is dmesg on about ?
[12:24] <Myrtti> http://rohan.ueuo.com/ - his own
[12:24] <ikonia> oh, he's pushed that a few times in ubuntu
[12:24] <Myrtti> for god sake
[12:24] <ikonia> I think we have the key
[12:24] <ikonia> [quote] I am 14-years old [/quote]
[12:25] <ikonia> that makes sense now
[12:25] <Myrtti> WHERE IS THAT??
[12:25] <ikonia> on his site
[12:25] <elkbuntu> on the site
[12:25] <ikonia> now it make sense
[12:25] <elkbuntu> read the paragraph on the site and rofl
[12:25] <ikonia> (not that being 14 year old is bad) but his mannerisms
[12:26] <elkbuntu> are quite stereotypically accurate
[12:26] <Myrtti> okies.
[12:26] <Myrtti> that *would* explain things.
[12:27] <Myrtti> Pedo mellon a minno.
[12:27] <jussi01> ok, I need to actually see that someone reads my blog... anybody care to make a few nice! comments?
[12:27] <ikonia> jussi01: url
[12:28] <jpds> hmm
[12:28] <jussi01> jussi01.com
[12:28] <jussi01> now he is trying @btlogin?
[12:28] <Pici> o.O
[12:28] <jussi01> sigh...
[12:28] <jpds> jussi01: Where?
[12:28]  * Pici sighs @ #kubuntu
[12:29] <Pici> that works ;)
[12:29] <ikonia> jussi01: I've read that before
[12:29] <jussi01> comments then!!
[12:29] <Myrtti> commented already
[12:29] <jussi01> jpds: you stole my thunder!!
[12:29] <ikonia> ok ok
[12:29] <jpds> jussi01: Oh mein Gott.
[12:30] <ikonia> jussi01: I've just put a link on my site to yours, hows that for commitment :)
[12:31] <jussi01> ikonia: great :D
[12:31] <jussi01> ikonia: what is your site?
[12:32]  * jpds wonders what dmesg did here: http://rohan.ueuo.com/index2.htm
[12:32] <ikonia> down at this second as the box is running a fedora upgrade
[12:32] <ikonia> jussi01: give it 25 mins and it will be back
[12:32] <Myrtti> jpds: catted some binary file
[12:32] <Pici> I was thinking the same thing
[12:33] <jpds> Myrtti: Aww, I wanted his boot to be messed up..
[12:33] <Pici> `reset` would have fixed it
[12:36] <ikonia> what the devil is this guy on about ?
[12:38] <jussi01> someone shoot im already...
[12:40] <elkbuntu> we dont actually have grounds to atm
[12:40]  * Pici thinks we should lay off him
[12:40] <Pici> or at least give him a little slack, maybe he'd focus his energy to something more constructive.
[12:41] <elkbuntu> like auditing us out of the blue?
[12:41] <ikonia> I'm not on him, I just don't understand what he's trying to acomplish, and why he's name dropping people he appears to have never had a public conversation with
[12:41] <Myrtti> for crying out loud
[12:42] <gnomefreak> no CC meeting?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> its on fridge for today
[12:42] <Pici> Maybe there was a translation error for 'auditing', because tht makes no sense.
[12:42] <elkbuntu> apparantly not
[12:43] <elkbuntu> Pici, you werent around the other day?
[12:43] <Pici> elkbuntu: I wasnt...
[12:44] <elkbuntu> * dmseg (n=luke@unaffiliated/dmseg) has joined #ubuntu-ops
 hello, auditing will start now at 6:02PM IST (non-freenode) time every conversation will be loged and displayed on public boards for auditing thankyou
[12:45] <gnomefreak> and the point of it is?
[12:45] <Pici> elkbuntu: well... maybe not a translation error, but that still doesnt make sense...
[12:45]  * Pici facedesks
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Pici: it does for the most part
[12:45] <Pici> gnomefreak: 'why'?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Pici: why? auditing without looking it up is observing/logging than commenting/criticing
[12:46] <gnomefreak> maybe poor choice of words
[12:46] <gnomefreak> but its used nomrally when someone breaks laws/rules
[12:47] <gnomefreak> they look into it
[12:47] <Pici> gnomefreak: No. I understand what auiditing is.
[12:47] <ikonia> I wonder if any of the guys he name dropped are actually aware of him ?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Pici: what part doesnt make sense?
[12:47] <elkbuntu> ikonia, they're probably aware of something gnawing at their ankles
[12:47] <Pici> gnomefreak: having joe random come in here and do it.
[12:47] <elkbuntu> or at least long enough to kick it off
[12:48] <gnomefreak> we can remove whomever and for whatever reason
[12:48] <Pici> elkbuntu: What day was that? I want to check the published logs
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i want to know what the content will be used for and why is he going to atttempt to do this
[12:48] <elkbuntu> 12th about midday sometime
[12:49] <gnomefreak> saterday
[12:49] <ikonia> gnomefreak: he told me the feedback was "positive"
[12:49] <ikonia> ??
[12:49] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, you have missed so much, m'dear
[12:49] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, we've entered a new phase of opping where we're chastised for disciplining trolls if they scream loud enough
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i notice but noone can really answer my question so it doesnt look like many/any understand why he is attempting it
[12:49] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, because nobody has a clue wth he's doing
[12:50] <gnomefreak> whos idea was this, this happened whil ei was gone from jan > may
[12:50] <gnomefreak> idea == new op procedures?
[12:50] <elkbuntu> certain annoying people who perceive that they got their way with the cc
[12:51] <gnomefreak> dmes doesnt bother me to much (topic says or said we have the right to remove people  ect...
[12:51] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: that would be emma and the other 2 people
[12:51] <gnomefreak> names escape me
[12:52] <elkbuntu> kahrytan being the second, not sure who you're thinking of other than that
[12:52] <gnomefreak> none of that has anything to do with logging the channel though so they cant use that as excuse to set us up (us being anyone/everyone
[12:52] <elkbuntu> probably emma's co-conspiritor.
[12:53] <ikonia> nah, he's just a young guy trying to get involved with $something
[12:53] <elkbuntu> mind you, merely talking about them now risks them barging in to tell us off for merely communicating
[12:53] <gnomefreak> there was someone that nick started with a b but he wasnt on agenda but decided to speak interupting the meeting
[12:53] <elkbuntu> heavens forbid you be kept in the loop and all, in a public channel since we're supposed to stay transparent and a private channel would not be one hence we cannot have one.
[12:54] <jpds> ikonia: I know how people like that can be sometimes..
[12:54] <bazhang> haha
[12:54] <gnomefreak> one of Hobbsee and emmas friend/aquantence pmed me during the meeting because he didnt know how to take it ( i have learned to not give info to people every if personal agenda behide it
[12:55] <elkbuntu> im not sure hobbsee and emma have any mutual friends
[12:55] <ikonia> jpds: exactly, youthful exuberence
[12:55] <gnomefreak> now dmesg is doing something that can be taken as a hostile action, logging/auditing channel to log everything an op does so if ops says "insert user is a troll" he can go to CC and bark
[12:55] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: they do did from what he said
[12:56] <gnomefreak> let me see if i can find his nick
[12:56] <elkbuntu> he could well be inventing friendship somehow
[12:56] <Hobbsee> oh, what fun do we have here now?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> dont see his nick anywhere
[12:57] <Pici> out out damned spot
[12:57] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: very possible
[12:57] <elkbuntu> Pici, you sound like you're quoting mcbeth
[12:57] <elkbuntu> or, lady mcbeth
[12:57] <Pici> elkbuntu: I was indeed.
[12:57] <Myrtti> everything seems so... dark
[12:58] <Myrtti> almost... black.
[12:58] <Pici> Why? I dont know, it just popped into my head.
[12:58] <Myrtti> yes... bllllaack.
[12:58] <Myrtti> MUST PAINT THE BLACK OUT!
[12:58]  * Mez hugs Myrtti 
[12:58] <bazhang> more like the stones
[12:58]  * Myrtti hugs back
[12:58] <gnomefreak> black == sleep but i cant for atleast 13 more hours
[12:59] <Myrtti> though I do think the Fast Show - Babylon 5 crossover jokes were the best
[12:59] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: me either.
[13:00] <gnomefreak> its lunch time in berlin right?
[13:01] <Myrtti> Kosh exits his cabin: "This season I 'ave been mosely wearin' my encounter suit!"
[13:01]  * Pici never watched B5
[13:02] <Myrtti> three psycore cops sitting by a desk. after a while: copper 3: "I'll get me coat"
[13:02] <ikonia> just talking to an op in ##linux-ops he's nothing to do with the channel
[13:02] <ikonia> he asked about mirrors, they rejected it as no-one wanted it, he asked about bots, they didn't want one
[13:02] <Myrtti> and still he's pushing
[13:03] <ikonia> apprantly he's a bit of a thorn in their side trying to help out but doesn't have any skills they want
[13:10] <jpds> Can someone tell me what https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1 gives them?
[13:10] <Pici> jpds: The same thing that it gave the last time I looked at it and laughed
[13:11]  * gnomefreak looks
[13:11] <jpds> Pici: Thought so.
[13:11] <Pici> jpds: (Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)
[13:11] <jpds> www.cacert.org uses an invalid security certificate.
[13:11] <gnomefreak> yeah new feature
[13:11] <gnomefreak> you can get it anyway
[13:11] <gnomefreak> just add exception
[13:12] <Pici> It may have been complaining about it being self signed the last time I looked, but it was definitly giving me a security error
[13:13] <gnomefreak> its not really an error its just firefox cant confirm the cert. due to it being self signed
[13:14] <gnomefreak> it sounded alot better before it was implented
[13:35] <Pici> ...
[13:35] <Pici> limcore
[13:37] <Hobbsee> Pici: what about him?
[13:37] <bazhang> ugh
[13:37] <Pici> Hobbsee: in #ubuntu, complaining. * LimCore bitchslaps someone for making applications start silently and connect to inet without question... what is this, windows?
[13:38] <Hobbsee> kmail doesn't.
[13:38] <ikonia> staight away "why the F"
[13:38] <Hobbsee> Pici: point out to him that kde saves sessions by default.
[13:38] <ikonia> he's had enough language warnings and knows the deal
[13:38] <bazhang> indeed.
[13:39] <bazhang> he had a project (allegedly) called stfu
[13:39] <Hobbsee> tell him he knows where he can get support instead
[13:39] <Hobbsee> he knows about the 'premier ubuntu channel'
[13:40] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: oooh, there's one of those too?
[13:40] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: dude, have you been living under a rock for the past....like...6 months?
[13:41] <Hobbsee> it has a certain female mentioned here earlier running it.
[13:42] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yeah, I have been less observing lately
[13:43]  * Tm_T is an old hermit
[13:43] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: it's the place that many people were getting recruited to
[13:43] <Tm_T> aaah, that one
[13:43] <Tm_T> I think I remember the thing now
[13:55] <Hobbsee> ikonia: heh, nice call
[13:55] <ikonia> enough is enough
[13:55] <ikonia> he does this on a regular basis
[13:55] <ikonia> it adds no value and just serves to cause a row
[13:56] <ikonia> he's not interested in fixing any issues, just ranting about what a failure ubuntu is
[13:56] <Pici> holarious quality?
[13:57] <jpds> ikonia: Who, where?
[13:57] <ikonia> he's not native english, can't call him on that
[13:57] <ikonia> jpds: limcore in #ubuntu
[14:04] <Hobbsee> pity.  i can't blame it on his binary driver.
[14:05] <ikonia> I don't doubt he has valid bugs, it's how he goes about it
[14:05] <Hobbsee> oh, sure
[14:05] <ikonia> "ubuntu is rubbish, total failure ubuntu should make everything work"
[14:05] <Hobbsee> yeah, well.
[14:05] <ikonia> it's regular as clock work
[14:05] <Hobbsee> i'm surprised that he's the only one who's found that bug though.
[14:05] <ikonia> it's not a common used application, although I'm surprised it got through test
[14:05] <ikonia> assuming he's using the repo versions
[14:06] <Hobbsee> it probably wasn't tested.
[14:06] <Hobbsee> at least, not since the later version of X
[14:06] <ikonia> which repo is it in ?
[14:06] <Hobbsee> ours
[14:06] <ikonia> I mean multi/uni/core
[14:06] <Hobbsee> smackdown.
[14:07] <Hobbsee> universe
[14:07] <ikonia> smackdown ?
[14:07] <ikonia> oh
[14:07] <Hobbsee> oh, there's a later version of it
[14:08] <elkbuntu> the fun thing is that half the stuff he comes up with wouldnt happen in windows or mac either
[14:11] <elkbuntu> bedtime mydearies. dont let the trolls bite too hard
[14:11] <Hobbsee> heh
[14:11] <Hobbsee> well, intrepid has the working version, so...
[14:11] <elkbuntu> if you must feed them, remember the chainmail glove
[14:11] <Hobbsee> as to why it's taken this long for anyone, especially him, to do anything constructive about it, i don't know.
[14:12] <elkbuntu> huh?
[14:12] <Hobbsee> uh, boltclock...wasn't he in here for that quit message?
[14:13] <ikonia> Hobbsee: good call
[14:13] <ikonia> where is he ?
[14:13] <ikonia> I keep missing him and he's not responded to a pm
[14:13] <Hobbsee> he just quit #ubuntu
[14:13] <ikonia> rats
[14:13] <Hobbsee> [23:12] <-- BoltClock has left this channel ("Remember: don't use `sudo rm -rf /`!").
[14:14] <ikonia> yeah, he's still got that
[14:14] <ikonia> I sent him a pm but looks like he's not changed it,
[14:14] <elkbuntu> banforward him here
[14:14] <elkbuntu> by orders of a councillor.
[14:14] <elkbuntu> and memo him and pray he figures how to see it
[14:14] <ikonia> it seemed a bit harsh as he's not at fault, but because he keeps being missed I guess we'll have to
[14:15] <elkbuntu> try a memo first then if you're unsure
[14:15] <elkbuntu> but nobody says 'dont press the red button' without expecting people to try press said red button
[14:15] <ikonia> ok, I'll leave a memo and see if I can catch him online as few people pickup memoserv
[14:15] <ikonia> but failing that I guess ban forward him
[14:15] <ikonia> I know, thats why it seems sensible to change it
[14:16] <elkbuntu> and why he has no excuse not to
[14:16] <ikonia> got him
[14:16] <ikonia> he's online
[14:16] <elkbuntu> cool
[14:17] <elkbuntu> i'm going to bed since my washing has finished and my left eye has closed for the night already
[14:17] <elkbuntu> no, it's my right eye
[14:17] <ikonia> good night,
[14:17] <elkbuntu> im going to bed since i cant tell my left from my right
[14:20] <jussi01> night elkbuntu
[14:21] <Hobbsee> i'm pleased to see that he's gone silent, once there is actually a fix
[14:21] <ikonia> it's changed
[14:21] <Hobbsee> and, it's actually the fault of the upstream guys, as they didnt' fix their broken software quickly enough
[14:22] <ikonia> nicley fixed
[14:22] <Hobbsee> and that we didn't pick it up
[14:43] <ikonia> any idea what unavailable in #ubuntu is really after, he's being very dubious about what he's actually asking for
[17:06] <jussi01> oh yummy
[17:06] <Pici> darn, I need to make that hilight do the whole line
[17:08] <RobertBopkins> hello
[17:08] <Myrtti> lol as ident and heh as realname
[17:08] <Myrtti> really assuring...
[17:08] <RobertBopkins> When I installed Linux it asked me for my credit card number. Two days later I got a call from Wachovia asking me if I had purchased $400 worth of Totino's pizza rolls and Mountain Dew (I hadn't). Let this be a warning to all of you out there in the Internet.
[17:09] <ikonia> RobertBopkins: are you attempting to waste peoples time ?
[17:09] <Pici> jussi01: did you mean to forward this here?
[17:09] <RobertBopkins> do you think this is a joke?
[17:09] <RobertBopkins> i installed ubuntu the other day, and it asked me for my creditcard
[17:10] <RobertBopkins> i will not stand for ubuntu scamming people
[17:10] <RobertBopkins> like this
[17:10] <ikonia> RobertBopkins: where did you get the CD from ?
[17:10] <RobertBopkins> the internet
[17:10] <ikonia> RobertBopkins: where on the internet
[17:11] <RobertBopkins> www.ubuntufree.on.nimp.org
[17:11] <ikonia> ahh so thats just spam
[17:11] <ikonia> can we stick a ban on him
[17:11] <jussi01> right then
[17:11] <Myrtti> what is that url?
[17:11] <Pici> done
[17:12] <Myrtti> noted that the most recent exploiter had also given that url on #ubuntu
[17:12] <ikonia> exploit
[17:12] <ikonia> surly thats kline ?
[17:12] <Myrtti> then it might be time to poke s t ff
[17:12] <Pici> Myrtti: anything that is something.nimp.org or something.pasteplace.net is a shocksite-java-browsercrash-etc-badthing site
[17:12] <Myrtti> ah
[17:12]  * Pici pokes stuff
[17:13] <jpds> Pici: Hmm, you hilighted me.
[17:13] <Myrtti> Pici: "ha   ha"
[17:13] <Pici> jpds: yay
[17:16] <Myrtti> Pici: was that an automatic kick or did you do it by hand?
[17:17] <ikonia> strying to get hold of staff in #freenode now
[17:17] <ikonia> may have to summon them as thats not a cool thing to post
[17:17] <ikonia> !staff
[17:19] <jussi01> Pici: thanks for sorting that
[17:19] <Pici> jussi01: np
[17:23] <ikonia> quite a clever way to launch an exploit through flash
[17:25] <nalioth> Myrtti: anything 'on . ni mp . org' should be an autokickban
[17:25] <ikonia> good to know
[17:25] <ikonia> why do hosts allow that ?
[17:25] <ikonia> someone must have setup ubuntuisfree dns entry
[17:26] <TheSheep> uh, oh, the !rosetta factoid has wrong url
[17:26] <Myrtti> !rosetta
[17:26] <Myrtti> and what should it have?
[17:26] <TheSheep> looking for it now
[17:26] <Myrtti> nalioth: "can I please have an autokick on someone mentioning the word whore?"
[17:27] <nalioth> Myrtti: the word '
[17:27] <nalioth> whore' doesn't damage folks' systems or deliver malware
[17:27] <Myrtti> nalioth: note quotes
[17:27] <Myrtti> :-P
[17:28] <TheSheep> Myrtti: maybe https://translations.launchpad.net/ ?
[17:28] <TheSheep> or just https://launchpad.net/rosetta
[17:32] <Myrtti> !rosetta ~= /https:\/\/launchpad.net\/rosetta\/+about/https:\/\/launchpad.net\/rosetta/
[17:32] <Myrtti> ho-hum.
[17:34] <jussi01> !no, rosetta is <reply>rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language. See https://launchpad.net/rosetta
[17:35] <jussi01> !rosetta
[17:35] <jussi01> :)
[17:35] <TheSheep> jussi01: thanks
[17:43] <jussi01> TheSheep: no probs
[17:55] <Myrtti> jussi01: lol, see what ubottu did just on -ot
[17:55] <Pici> Its good no one else is in my office right no, they all would have been staring at me laughing
[17:55] <Pici> s/no/now
[17:56] <jussi01> rofl
[18:26] <jpds> He's gone.
[18:29] <nalioth> y'all be sharp now, trouble may come knocking
[18:47] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: Trouble be thy name?
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I am usually in trouble for something, whats up
[18:48] <Pici> Nothing special
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Nothing more than normal
[18:48] <Pici> Exactly
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Hows things been here.  I have been a bit busy
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> I have only checked the channel a few times here and there
[18:49] <Pici> Its been pretty busy here, just regular sort of junk.
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Same network and video issues
[18:50] <Pici> There was a bad flash update that went out, but its been corrected.
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> THe occasional clown wanting to run game emulator under wine, in ubuntu installed via wubi and accessible to ntfs prgrams
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:28] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2671276351/ ♥
[20:21] <PriceChild> I'm happy with Flannel being an op (+1)
[20:24] <ompaul> +77
[20:28] <ompaul> jussi01, ping pong
[20:29] <jussi01> ompaul: ding dong
[20:29] <ompaul> I has too many confusers
[20:29]  * ompaul looks for something to grumble about
[20:29] <ompaul> ahh jussi01 prepare for pm
[20:29] <Myrtti> oh noes it is an ompaul
[20:30]  * jussi01 runs
[20:31]  * ompaul still looks for something to grumble about
[20:31] <ompaul> if jussi01 does do what was asked I will have work to do - and not have time to grumble ;-)
[20:34] <jussi01> ompaul: Im in the middle of ixing my network connection atm - I dont have a dns :/
[20:35] <jussi01> can someone give me a public dns for now?
[20:36] <ompaul> jussi01, just a sec
[20:37] <ompaul> jussi01, this is what I use 208.67.222.222
[20:37] <jussi01> ompaul: Thanks!
[20:37] <ompaul> it is one of those ones funny ones if you get a wrong query on web traffic it sends you some adverts
[20:37] <ompaul> harmless enough
[20:37] <ompaul> 208.67.220.220
[20:37] <ompaul> is their other one
[20:39] <jussi01> !test
[20:39] <ompaul> jussi01, if they fail then you got serious problems
[20:39] <jussi01> ompaul: nah, its working now :D
[20:39] <ompaul> good
[20:40] <Myrtti> I was about to give the exact same ip's
[20:40] <ompaul> copyMyrtti is not as funny as lolMyrtti
[20:41] <Myrtti> Now playing "Butterfly" by Rajaton. ♥
[20:41] <Myrtti> ompaul: well I do know opendns.com too...
[20:41]  * ompaul is listening to Mr Bob The Dylan his sellllf
[20:41] <Myrtti> the video of that song by Rajaton has great scenery from Finland
[20:42] <ompaul> ahhh
[20:42] <Myrtti> http://youtube.com/watch?v=oghj7y4hluU
[20:42] <Myrtti> and the lyrics are great too
[20:43] <ompaul> not quite the basshunter
[20:43] <ompaul> hehe
[20:43]  * ompaul runs
[20:43] <TheSheep> great scenery = wall of trees and mist
[20:43] <Myrtti> TheSheep: Finland ♥
[20:45] <TheSheep> boring
[20:45] <Myrtti> hi DBO
[20:45] <ompaul> DBO, helllllo
[20:46] <DBO> hello all
[20:46] <DBO> im looking for the Intrepid roadmap
[20:46] <DBO> need to get gnome-do 0.6 pushed out in time for feature freeze
[20:46] <ompaul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseSchedule
[20:46] <ompaul> not that
[20:47] <DBO> that works
[20:47] <nalioth> DBO: can we help you?
[20:47] <DBO> we got a month
[20:47] <DBO> hmmm
[20:47] <ompaul> nalioth, you do not remember dbo?
[20:47] <nalioth> ompaul: i don't know who that is.
[20:47] <DBO> not unless you can hook me up with an artist, we are kinda doing a release sprint
[20:48] <ompaul> well he could do with a cloak
[20:48] <nalioth> hai, DBO :)
[20:48] <DBO> that help?
[20:48] <DBO> ompaul, hes just messing with me
[20:48] <DBO> i dont ident on this computer a lot
[20:48] <ompaul> most likely
[20:48] <nalioth> just like i mess with all folks who show their slip
[20:48] <DBO> hai nalioth =)
[20:48]  * ompaul wonders what dota is
[20:49] <ompaul> some game of some sort iirc
[20:49] <nalioth> who are all these idling people?
[20:50] <ompaul> nalioth, clear
[20:50] <ompaul> as in they are
[20:50] <nalioth> i poke people on their lack of credentials, because i have no small experience with nick-thieves and social engineers
[20:50] <jussi01> I says we kicks them all out...
[20:50] <ompaul> leave juliu^^x alone thanks ;-)
[20:51] <Myrtti> ompaul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients
[20:51] <nalioth> query their purposes and have at it
[20:51] <ompaul> and I know others will speak for others
[20:51] <ompaul> Myrtti, thanks
[20:51] <ompaul> "Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" by Swedish musician Basshunter reached the European 2006 charts at #116 and cracked the top ten Singles Charts in Sweden
[20:52]  * ompaul is currently listening to it
[20:53] <ompaul> !kirby
[20:53] <ompaul> !kirby | public
[20:53] <ompaul> some poor person
[20:53] <ompaul> ohh well
[20:54] <Myrtti> !kirby-#ubuntu-offtopic | ompaul
[20:54] <ompaul> ack
[20:56] <ompaul> please check lil-romeo in #u not sure
[20:57] <jussi01> ompaul: Im sorry, Im real busy atm . Ill get you that stuff you asked for soon
[20:58] <ompaul> jussi01, np after the weekend is good
[20:58] <ompaul> most likely better
[21:02] <jussi01> Has anyone seen stdin recently?
[21:04] <jpds> jussi01: Maybe he's getting ready for lugradio? or something..
[21:04] <jussi01> jpds: yeah, good point
[21:05] <Myrtti> talking of which, I should continue cleaning this place up
[21:06] <ompaul> Myrtti, travellog
[21:06] <ompaul> and travelling
[21:06] <ompaul> or log the travelling
[21:06] <Myrtti> you think?
[21:06] <ompaul> I refer to about 48 hours from now
[21:07] <ompaul> no wrong
[21:07] <ompaul> ohh well
[21:07] <Myrtti> hm, was thinking about that today
[21:07] <Myrtti> perhaps I should
[21:07] <ompaul> ok we need supplies
[21:07] <ompaul> and so it is I go to get same
[21:07] <ompaul> later
[21:08] <Myrtti> tatah
[21:11]  * Myrtti sighs, goes to roll the rugs away
[21:14] <PriceChild> Myrtti: ompaul: whover_else: when are you getting here? Will you be at the social thing Friday night?
[21:15] <Myrtti> PriceChild: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=18&month=07&year=2008&hour=12&min=40&sec=&p0=136
[21:15] <Myrtti> that's for my plane
[21:15] <PriceChild> Myrtti: ah so you get here about lunchtime
[21:15] <Myrtti> :-P
[21:16] <PriceChild> wasn't my way easier? :D
[21:16] <Myrtti> yeah, but I'll prolly have a nap and shower before doing anything social
[21:16] <PriceChild> yup
[21:16]  * PriceChild finds details of evening thing
[21:17] <PriceChild> http://lugradio.org/live/UK2008/travel#friday_night
[21:17] <Myrtti> I'm already scared ****less over traveling - haven't packed yet anything else than the tinned reindeer and this place is a mess - and I can't remember my credit card pin and cant print my eticket and am afraid of the travel part - staying awake...
[21:17] <Myrtti> I'm actually quite surprised how calmly I'm acting now
[21:18] <PriceChild> it is scary going abroad on own
[21:18] <PriceChild> well not so scary
[21:18] <PriceChild> but paranoia inducing
[21:18] <PriceChild> for me anyway :P
[21:20] <PriceChild> so yes, Myrtti has no excuse
[21:20] <Myrtti> excuse for what? :-P
[21:21] <Myrtti> for not being at Hogshead that evening?
[21:22] <PriceChild> mmhm
[21:22] <Myrtti> I guarantee nothing - remember I have to leave home about 12hrs before my plane arrives to UK
[21:22] <Myrtti> so I'll prolly stay awake the previous night
[21:22] <Tm_T> kids kids kids...
[21:31] <jussi01> jpds: fyi, I texted him - his internet is screwed,
[21:31] <jpds> jussi01: Right.
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici I did all updates on a gutsy box and still show the old Pidgin version.  What should I look for.
[21:53] <jussi01> !away > gardar`afk
[21:55] <jussi01> hi AfeRaTa
[21:55] <AfeRaTa> hui
[21:55] <Myrtti> horrible!
[21:56] <AfeRaTa> q
[21:56] <Myrtti> awful!
[21:56] <AfeRaTa> my
[21:56] <Myrtti> AfeRaTa: yes?
[21:56] <darkuk> asl Myrtti
[21:56] <darkuk> pyrti :)
[21:56] <ompaul> darkuk, you are in a school in coventry
[21:57] <darkuk> you proxy
[21:57] <darkuk> you lamer the best :)
[21:57] <ompaul> bad call
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[21:57] <ompaul> you want to know what I think
[21:57] <nalioth> darkuk: can we help you?
[21:57] <darkuk> my nokia N95 8 gb :)
[21:57] <ompaul> nalioth, he claims a proxy
[21:57] <darkuk> i am Bulgari
[21:57] <darkuk> Bg chackeR
[21:57] <darkuk> :)
[21:57] <nalioth> ompaul: no comprende
[21:57]  * Myrtti mails abuse@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk, postmaster@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk and webmaster@mailbox.thw.coventry.sch.uk
[21:58] <ompaul> thats a good place to start
[21:58] <Myrtti> ho-HUM
[21:58] <darkuk> bye bye :)
[21:58] <ompaul> idiot
[21:58] <Myrtti> somehow I get a feeling that they might not know they've got a proxy running open like that
[21:59] <jussi01> gah, what did I miss...
[21:59]  * nalioth has no idea
[21:59] <ompaul> Myrtti, if they have an open proxy they will be banned from freenode
[21:59] <ompaul> 99% of the time
[22:00] <ompaul> http://www.thw.coventry.sch.uk/
[22:00] <ompaul> Email: enquiries@thw.coventry.sch.uk
[22:05] <Myrtti> is there any tuition on schools in UK at this time of year?
[22:05] <ompaul> there can be
[22:06] <ompaul> exchange students etc
[22:06] <ompaul> ask PC for details
[22:07] <Myrtti> seems to be
[22:07] <ompaul> that school is open until 18th July
[22:07] <Myrtti> looked at their schedule
[22:07] <Myrtti> yup
[22:07] <ompaul> damn I would not like us to be the bad guys ;-)
[22:07] <ompaul> woo would not be good for your network
[22:07] <ompaul> we take you on official and unofficial programs
[22:08] <Myrtti> I find it somewhat disturbing that his host is what it was
[22:08] <Myrtti> and the ident
[22:08] <jussi01> Myrtti: errr, wait a second... you arent???
[22:08] <ompaul> I had this years ago with a school
[22:08] <Myrtti> am I paranoid, writing this email?
[22:09] <jussi01> Myrtti: no
[22:09] <ompaul> wait until tomorrow when they are there and this person is not
[22:09] <ompaul> or at least is otherwise occupied
[22:09] <ompaul> and send a copy to attendance :)
[22:09] <ompaul> under separate cover
[22:10] <jussi01>  /me is glad ompaul is on his side :D
[22:10] <ompaul> hehe
[22:16] <elkbuntu> +1 for flannel as op
[22:17]  * elkbuntu heads to the trains
[22:18] <ompaul> AfeRaTa, ohh hi
[22:18] <ompaul> ban avoidance really is against network aup
[22:18] <AfeRaTa> who is the bitch ? :)
[22:19] <ompaul> nalioth, look who is back
[22:19] <ompaul> hmm
[22:19] <ompaul> but why I ask myself
[22:20] <nalioth> well, well, well
[22:20] <ompaul> I think you can do something with that I take it
[22:20] <darkuk> :)
[22:20] <ompaul> and here we go again
[22:21] <ompaul> nalioth, that is three IPs I got for ya that are proxies :)
[22:21] <ompaul> ahh
[22:22] <ompaul> I would gladly let him in as someone else time and again
[22:22] <ompaul> Myrtti, so now you know it is a proxy user :)
[22:22] <Myrtti> so would I
[22:22] <Myrtti> are you sure proxy, not cracked root account=?
[22:22] <mneptok> "we outsourced our proxy scanning to bulgaria."
[22:22] <nalioth> either way, they need sorting
[22:23] <Myrtti> would someone want to be in cc of this email? pm address
[22:23] <jussi01> Myrtti: me please
[22:23] <jussi01> you have my addy
[22:25] <Myrtti> anyone else? hitting [ Send ] in 15s
[22:25] <nalioth> Myrtti: me at gmail.com
[22:25] <nalioth> me being my nick
[22:25] <nalioth> :)
[22:25] <ompaul> Myrtti, if you can find me ;-)
[22:32] <Myrtti> I've written too many emails in my life.
[22:33] <Myrtti> what is bubbling in -ot?
[22:34]  * PriceChild throws Myrtti in head first
[22:35] <ompaul> @btlogin
[22:35]  * ompaul does research
[22:37] <nalioth> i guess i'm a geek when i recognize geekcode
[22:41] <PriceChild> There seem to be 3 +1s for Flannel from the council, who wants to poke him?
[22:42] <nalioth> when did elky speak up?
[22:43] <PriceChild> 26 minutes ago
[22:44] <ompaul> asked to get in here
[22:44] <ompaul> you can has fun then
[22:44]  * ompaul is going to bed
[22:44] <PriceChild> He seems to be away atm anyway.
[22:44] <ompaul> so you can call later
[22:44] <ompaul> :)
[22:44] <nalioth> he'll come back to a horrible surprise, won't he then?
[22:44] <jussi01> PriceChild: we need to sort out this ubuntu studio thing
[22:45] <PriceChild> jussi01: yup
[22:45] <ompaul> what is the problem / lack of a problem with it
[22:45] <jussi01> mma has given me the resonsibility for getting it done
[22:45] <PriceChild> could you clarify on what it is to be done?
[22:45] <PriceChild> or is it letting us choose?
[22:45] <ompaul> logtastic
[22:45]  * ompaul revs up
[22:46] <jussi01> PriceChild: the latter - we would like a council proposal
[22:46] <PriceChild> jussi01: right ok.
[22:46] <jussi01> PriceChild: Ive not been party to this process before, so I guess Im still learning
[22:47] <PriceChild> jussi01: but basically along the lines of "happy with the council overlooking the #ubuntustudio project on freenode" kinda thing?
[22:47] <jussi01> PriceChild: exactly :)
[22:47] <PriceChild> jussi01: cool.
[22:48] <jussi01> PriceChild: we want to be in line with normal ubuntu policy as possible :)
[22:48] <jussi01> as per a normal official derivative
[22:49] <PriceChild> jussi01: well i guess that means we need to sort out a gcf, (after explaining what that entails to ubuntustudio) get them to approve it, make a little statement somewhere about it.
[22:49] <jussi01> PriceChild: what is a gcf exactly?
[22:49] <PriceChild> group contact form
[22:49] <jussi01> linky?
[22:49]  * Myrtti makes a mental note on 00:49 @,- TGD [n=gts@host86-137-118-255.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit  ["DSOrganize IRC"]
[22:49] <PriceChild> http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
[22:50] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahh, ok - yes :)
[22:50] <PriceChild> jussi01: basically making freenode know that 'foo' is the 'bar project's spokesperson, and will liase between the two organisations.
[22:50] <PriceChild> well that's the most noticable bit anyway
[22:51] <jussi01> PriceChild: so it doesnt come under the ubuntu hat? or?
[22:52] <PriceChild> jussi01: I would guess that we would refile our existing gcf, tacking the ubuntustudio bit on the end with kubuntu,xubuntu etc. but that's something for us to worry about.
[22:52] <PriceChild> And hopefully after all this, we'll never need to worry about it and everything will be the same as it was before.
[22:52] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahh, ok. but we still need to do one?
[22:53] <PriceChild> It would be handy.
[22:53] <PriceChild> Because of the "Additional channel management capabilities."
[22:54] <jussi01> ok, will do. - should I just get it filled out and submitted then?
[22:54] <PriceChild> nope
[22:54] <nalioth> jussi01: patience is a virtue
[22:54] <mneptok> language is a virus.
[22:55] <jussi01> nalioth: hehe :D I know, just trying to make sure I dont screw it up :D
[22:55] <PriceChild> I'm disappearing in 5 mins
[22:55] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahh - later then :)
[23:09] <Myrtti> watch out for Xavura - he quit now but I suspect he'll be back
[23:11] <mneptok> that guy rubs me the wrong way, too
[23:11] <mneptok> prolly 'cause i'm old, and he's fighting puberty
[23:19] <Myrtti> meh
[23:19] <Pici> meh indeed
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti I directed him here
[23:19] <Myrtti> 01:18 < dragon_> is there another chat I should be in for help with ubuntu 8.04?
[23:19] <Myrtti> 01:18 < SebNaitsabes> dragon
[23:19] <Myrtti> 01:18 < SebNaitsabes> you can try
[23:19] <Myrtti> 01:18 @,- kedde [n=kedde@563459f8.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Ex-Chat"]
[23:19] <Myrtti> 01:18 < SebNaitsabes> #club-ubuntu
[23:19] <Myrtti> [B[B[B[B
[23:20] <Xavura> Why am I banned for saying hell?
[23:20] <Myrtti> you're not banned for saying only that
[23:21] <Xavura> Sure, it's the rules, but it's pretty pathetic, considering it ISN'T a swear word
[23:21] <Xavura> What am I banned for then?
[23:21] <Xavura> Enlighten me.
[23:22] <Xavura> Sure I haven't shown the most positive attitude, I'm in the worst of moods, I'm sorry I am not able to act all happy wappy in your presence and pretend like everything is all good
[23:22] <Xavura> I'm sorry that I can't mask my frustration
[23:22] <Xavura> but really
[23:22] <Myrtti> your ranting about things not working wasn't helping you or anyone else. You were told to stop as it was counterproductive and disturbing the normal flow of the channel
[23:22] <Myrtti> which you ignored
[23:23] <Xavura> Well things weren't working, people told me to try things, things which I had tried already numerous times and they didn't work either
[23:23] <Xavura> and everytime someone "helped" it created even MORE problems
[23:23] <Xavura> I wouldn't call that productive, would you?
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Xavura Paid professional support is available
[23:25] <Myrtti> actually, given their solutions should've worked (I've not followed them), yes
[23:25] <Xavura> Oh yeah, that's cute.
[23:26] <Xavura> well nothing seemed to work
[23:26] <Myrtti> we cannot guarantee the quality of help at #ubuntu to each and every user
[23:26] <Xavura> everything created more problems that just kept building up and up
[23:26] <Xavura> I know the support is voluntary
[23:26] <Xavura> I know there are no guarantees
[23:26] <Xavura> but still, it's not good is it
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> The solutions should have worked, unless something had been done previously that kept them from working
[23:26] <Xavura> Something that had been suggested by someone, previously
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> THat is not the point.  Your attitude is the point of this discussion
[23:27] <Xavura> How would your attitude be after 14~ hours of trying to fix things, only to have more problems be created
[23:28] <Myrtti> well, given that there are 1300 people in #ubuntu, all volunteer, who've tried their best to help you
[23:28] <Myrtti> I *wouldn't* go ranting there
[23:29] <Xavura> How long do these bans last? I kind of need my computer to work.
[23:29] <Pici> They last until we remove them.
[23:30] <Xavura> Guh
[23:30] <Xavura> and how is the time to remove them decided...
[23:30] <Myrtti> and that is dependant on you
[23:31] <Xavura> I mean, not like it matters to you one bit, support is as previously mentioned voluntary... but how long do I have to be stuck without a working computer for?
[23:32] <nalioth> you an always reinstall it
[23:32] <Xavura> Again? No thanks
[23:33] <Xavura> You say it's dependant on me, dependant on *what* exactly?
[23:33] <nalioth> then it seems you "don't need your computer to worK" as you are letting on
[23:33] <Xavura> Not enough to re-install no
[23:33] <Xavura> I have data I will lose, data I can't back up
[23:33] <Pici> 18:27:19 <Jack_Sparrow> THat is not the point.  Your attitude is the point of this discussion
[23:33] <Myrtti> Xavura: the length of your ban is decided by the op placing the ban based on your personal behaviour and the "personal growth" and "attitude adjustment" you show
[23:34] <Myrtti> having said that, I see it's way too late for me to be practising procrastination of sleep with IRC
[23:34] <Xavura> Well is my attittude still bad? If you think that then I may as well go back to Windows because right now I have no attitude at all, I went and vented for a few minutes and while I am not a happy chappy, I am not showing an attitude towards anyone here right now
[23:34] <Xavura> and if you think I am, then you interpret what I say wrong
[23:34] <Myrtti> and I'll continue my personal growth in bed, nini all
[23:35] <Pici> byas Myrtti
[23:35] <Xavura> If not then ok, but I have been accused of having an attitude before while enganging in normal conversation :\
[23:39] <Xavura> Could someone at least scroll up and find the paste that supposedly had my original xorg.conf in
[23:39] <Xavura> So I have something to try...
[23:47] <Myrtti> omg, before I turn in for the night, found this. http://code.google.com/creative/radiohead/
[23:48] <Myrtti> WHOA.
[23:48] <Myrtti> now, really going in bed.
[23:56] <Xavura> How do I set my keyboard layout to en-GB
[23:56] <Xavura> I can't log in without it
[23:56] <Xavura> My password is full of symbols and en-US totally switches everything around
[23:57] <Xavura> Someone already told me but it didn't work...
[23:58] <Xavura> Please? I at least need to get into MY account even if everything is borked
[23:58] <nalioth> Xavura: this is not a support channel.  there are over 200 channels here that can help you with your X11 problem
[23:59] <Xavura> I know it isn't but I am banned from \ubuntu and if I try any other channel I will be redirected to \ubuntu, no?
[23:59] <Xavura> See what I mean about the symbols...