| newz2000 | mdke said to go ahead and have the meeting without him, so I guess we'll schedule a meeting for very soon. | 20:36 |
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| vbabiy | newz2000: any Idea when yet? I would like to make it | 20:42 |
| newz2000 | no, Vorlon is keeping a list of timezones. I may ask him if he pops online soon | 20:43 |
| vbabiy | newz2000: cool. | 20:44 |
| vbabiy | hows everything been going? | 20:44 |
| newz2000 | good here... | 20:45 |
| newz2000 | how about you? | 20:45 |
| vbabiy | same, I am planning on getting a rough draft of the feature tour together today | 20:46 |
| newz2000 | cool | 20:46 |
| newz2000 | I like what you did, also that mockup that came as a reply | 20:46 |
| vbabiy | newz2000: do we have the src for the current tour | 20:47 |
| newz2000 | kind of... it's just a bunch of html pages | 20:47 |
| newz2000 | this was done by an outside contractor or agency and I'm not sure what tool they used | 20:48 |
| newz2000 | some pages are msdos formatted, some are unix formatted | 20:48 |
| vbabiy | newz2000: O really, well then forget it I can recreate the screen pretty quick | 20:52 |
| vbabiy | Also if we used a Dell screen, would that be willing to pay for the ad :) | 20:53 |
| newz2000 | :-) | 20:53 |
| vbabiy | that would be kinda of cool | 20:53 |
| newz2000 | I'd say try to not use anything that looks distinctly like a specific brand | 20:54 |
| newz2000 | Ubuntu is getting big enough that it's attracting many hardware vendors and it would be a shame to scare any awy | 20:55 |
| vbabiy | newz2000: this is very true, didn't even think of that | 20:57 |
| newz2000 | not as many people know this, but Sun has down a lot of work to certify their servers for Ubuntu (cf www.ubuntu.com/sun ) and additionally have an | 20:58 |
| newz2000 | awesome library of stock images I could use | 20:58 |
| newz2000 | but the problem is their servers look so distinctive that if I used their images it'd be like plastering a big sun ad on the site. | 20:58 |
| vbabiy | yeah | 21:29 |
| hubuntu | hi newz2000: | 22:24 |
| hubuntu | have you made some changes to the template for the shipit.ubuntu.com site? | 22:25 |
| newz2000 | hey hubuntu | 22:25 |
| newz2000 | not for shipit perse, but I"ve got a slightly updated version of it for another project | 22:25 |
| hubuntu | is that something that may go into production for ubuntu sites? | 22:25 |
| hubuntu | We are defining the layout template for spreadubuntu and it would be nice to work on the right template or global idea at least | 22:26 |
| newz2000 | hubuntu: let me give you what I have... I'm not going to guarantee that it won't evolve, but it's the best I have now | 22:27 |
| hubuntu | that sound good enough for us | 22:27 |
| newz2000 | hubuntu: you'll have to remove the shipit stuff in there | 22:30 |
| newz2000 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/ubuntu08.zip | 22:30 |
| newz2000 | do you want the svg image for creating the header graphic? | 22:31 |
| pep | Hi | 22:32 |
| newz2000 | hi pep! | 22:32 |
| hubuntu | newz2000: If we use that template do we have to keep the Canonical copyright note as it is or can we change it to include the Marketing Team, for instance? | 22:32 |
| newz2000 | no, please change it as a matter of fact | 22:33 |
| pep | I suppose hubuntu showed the spreadubuntu mock-up... | 22:33 |
| pep | :) | 22:33 |
| newz2000 | no | 22:33 |
| * newz2000 would love to see it | 22:33 | |
| pep | http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1834/mockup6bismn7.png I quickly gimp'ed this this afternoon | 22:33 |
| pep | using bits of screenshots uf ubuntu.com | 22:34 |
| newz2000 | so I made some decissions for ubuntu.com that may not apply to you... | 22:34 |
| pep | but hubuntu made me notice the lower end taht is nicely rounded on https://shipit.ubuntu.com/, so I'll add that... | 22:34 |
| newz2000 | here's my layout guide for ubuntu.com: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/ubuntu-layout-guide.png | 22:35 |
| pep | thank you | 22:35 |
| hubuntu | yes newz2000 the svg would be nice to have | 22:35 |
| newz2000 | so the html template I just gave him confirms to those dimensions | 22:35 |
| hubuntu | thank you very much newz2000 :) | 22:35 |
| newz2000 | also, here is my layout helper I gave to the design agency who did some of our graphics (that still didn't get it right) | 22:35 |
| newz2000 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/layout-guide-helper.png | 22:35 |
| newz2000 | this last image shows you should measure the image width from the perceived edge of the image, not the actual edge | 22:36 |
| newz2000 | so your header could be bigger than 852... if it has a 3px drop shadow on both sides it might be 852 + 3px + 3px | 22:36 |
| pep | newz2000: oh well this is just a draft, nothing concrete, so I'll mix something in-line with the rest of the ubntu sites.... but you must know that we serve a very precise purpose... much like an ftp browser... this was the first mock-up: http://dicidailleurs.houbsi.org/uploads/file/mockup.png | 22:37 |
| newz2000 | no prob. Feel free to deviate, I'm just explaining why things are they way they are | 22:37 |
| hubuntu | is the javascript thing possible in this version newz2000? | 22:37 |
| hubuntu | have you found a solution to the hardcoded menu? | 22:37 |
| newz2000 | hubuntu: I think my solution will be to not have drop down menus | 22:38 |
| newz2000 | I'd say plan for that | 22:38 |
| hubuntu | sound very unweb2ish, but good enough after knowing the background story | 22:38 |
| pep | hubuntu: why'd we need drop-down menus anyway? | 22:38 |
| hubuntu | see ubuntu.com | 22:39 |
| hubuntu | not that we need them, but it's sort of cool | 22:39 |
| hubuntu | I dropped them out in ubuntu.ec | 22:39 |
| pep | Oh, yes of course... well it depends which links we decide to put in the top-right hand corner... | 22:39 |
| hubuntu | too much work, too little time, no access to ftp | 22:39 |
| newz2000 | hubuntu: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/projects/header.svg | 22:39 |
| newz2000 | best viewed in inkscape | 22:40 |
| hubuntu | thank you. I will download everything here and upload it in my slicehost pep | 22:42 |
| pep | hubuntu: I got it here too | 22:43 |
| hubuntu | good | 22:43 |
| pep | newz2000: As you probably saw on the mockup, I'd like to use the same clipper-type box for the content of the site, like here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download can I re-use the same code? | 22:46 |
| newz2000 | of course, you may also want to do a quick google for "sliding doors" | 22:47 |
| newz2000 | there's an article on 'a list apart' about that technique for tabs | 22:48 |
| pep | thanks for the info | 22:48 |
| pep | by the way | 22:48 |
| newz2000 | try "sliding doors css" | 22:48 |
| pep | I noticed that it works well whilst on the download tab, but when you click on "buy ubuntu on cd", the other tabs are not shaded.... | 22:48 |
| newz2000 | the tabs can be far better than that link. The design agency who did our theme did that withoutout thought about how it would actually be implemented in html (imho) | 22:48 |
| pep | just a detail | 22:48 |
| newz2000 | yes, correct | 22:49 |
| newz2000 | I just set the opacity down on non active tabs, which is a hack | 22:49 |
| pep | Well, I wanted to keep it in-line with ubuntu.com, so I'll probably use the same design, correcting that shading bug of course | 22:49 |
| pep | ok, I wrote it down. | 22:49 |
| pep | thanks for your help newz2000! | 23:37 |
| pep | good night | 23:37 |
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