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resproblemhello...i'm on xubuntu 8 and my resolution is stuck at 800x600; whenever i try the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command, no video settings pop up like every online forums says03:02
resproblemanyone know whats wrong with my reconfigure thing?03:02
LetsGo67How do I share songs from Xubuntu to a Vista PC?03:36
LetsGo67Anyone?03:39
fourChanis it possible to install a clean version of ubuntu? without any software?04:01
fourChanis it possible to install a clean version of ubuntu? without any software?04:01
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CostaRicanQuakeri have kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu isntalled06:37
CostaRicanQuakerhow do i get the bar to be on the bottom,06:38
CostaRicanQuakerthe taskbar with the menu06:38
CostaRicanQuakerand how do i get the maclike bubbly menu06:38
CostaRicanQuakerbrb gotta reboot06:38
fretlessdavishey, wine left a bunch of unused icons from old programs in my applications list under 'other'; how can I get rid of them since I can't access that from the menu manager?07:32
fretlessdavisanyone? sorry... I'm a total newbie07:36
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zoredachefretlessdavis: what was your question?07:51
fretlessdaviswine left a bunch of stuff in an other directory07:55
fretlessdavisstuff that's not on my system07:55
fretlessdavishow do I gt rid of it?07:55
fretlessdavisapplications> othr07:56
fretlessdavisother*07:56
zoredachejust drag it to the trash?07:56
fretlessdaviscan't get rid of it in menu settings07:56
zoredacheoh, in the menu....07:56
RyanVanDiementhe best thing is to edit the menu and leave the tick box empty next to it07:57
RyanVanDiementhat`s the cleanest solution i guess07:57
fretlessdavisI can't get to that directory in the menu settings... that's where I'm having trouble07:58
zoredachehttp://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/manually-edit-the-xfce-menu/07:59
zoredachehttp://xfce.wikia.com/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_to_edit_the_auto_generated_menu_with_the_menu_editor.3F08:00
zoredachethose two articles look like they might address what you want08:01
fretlessdavisthanks zoredache08:01
zoredachebut anyway I believe you can't edit it because some of the menu is generated based on the .desktop files08:02
zoredacheyou would find those in /usr/share/applications.  You might want to take a quick peak in that folder to see if it has any files that match what you are trying to remove08:04
CCCnhi why im unable to create any kind of docs?08:05
zoredacheCCCn: perhaps you are looking for the wrong thing... Maybe you are looking for what xfce calls a 'panel'08:06
fretlessdaviszoredache: they're there, but I can't delete them from the browser08:07
fretlessdaviswill I be able to at the terminal?08:07
zoredachefretlessdavis: from the terminal you will be able to delete if you do it with sudo08:07
fretlessdavisk thanks08:08
fretlessdaviswhat's the command for delete?08:08
fretlessdavisI just recently switched to linux08:08
zoredacheyou could also do a 'gksu thunar' to start up a root file browser08:08
fretlessdavisstill have dos commands in my head :-/08:08
zoredachefretlessdavis: the delete command is 'rm filename'08:08
fretlessdavis'k08:08
fretlessdavisthanks for the root access in thunar command08:10
fretlessdavisI got it08:10
CCCnim in root's group already......zooredache....i do the same at the terminal but it cant be saved or closed (it close by term only)08:10
zoredacheCCCn: what?08:11
CCCncreate a doc...i mean08:11
zoredachewhat do you mean when you say 'doc'?08:12
zoredacheare you talking about something like the thing at the bottem of the screen in OSX or are you talking about a MSWord compatible file08:13
CCCni can create it in terminal (DOCument) but it still cant be saved08:13
fretlessdavishmmm. they're not in that folder.  I'll take a look at those links and ask at #winehq since wine did it08:13
fretlessdavisthanks!08:13
CCCnim talkin bout linux .conf file (4 example)08:15
CCCnin terminal im usin somthing like that ^O^S08:15
CCCnoh man tell me that im loser & i go away...08:17
CCCn:-)08:17
zoredacheyou aren't a loser....08:18
CCCnok thx08:18
zoredachewhat program are you trying to use to edit the file?08:18
CCCnfirst it was terminal08:18
zoredacheif you want to edit something outside of your home directory in a terminal a command like 'gksu nano /etc/filename' would be what you want08:19
zoredacheif you want a gui you could simply do an 'alt-f2' and run 'gksu mousepad'08:20
CCCnok stop and big thankz ill try it after ok!!! thx zore08:21
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fretlessdavisI accidentily deleted my last panel09:25
fretlessdavishow can I get it back?09:25
fretlessdavisanyone?09:29
fretlessdavis_anyone know how to get panels back? I accidentily deleted the only one I had09:34
fretlessdavisanyone, I'm afraid to do anything until I can fix it09:40
RyanVanDiemenhi guys10:44
RyanVanDiemendoes anybody know how do I change bootsplash in xubuntu?10:44
RyanVanDiemenI installed xubuntu-desktop on top of my gnome-ubuntu installation and would like to change my bootsplash into xubuntu one without re-installing the system10:47
pijuRyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager10:48
RyanVanDiemenyou can modify these settings there?10:49
pijuRyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager10:50
pijuRyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager10:50
pijuRyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager10:50
RyanVanDiemenok, I`ll check that, thank you10:50
pijunp10:51
RyanVanDiemenI found on their page that you can even edit GRUB with startupmanager, but I use qgrubeditor for GRUB editing, will they not collide or something?10:51
matteo_Hi, anyone know how i can edit the xfce menu in Xubuntu 8.04??11:07
Rev_hello ppl11:14
CCCnhello and i wonna know it again :-) there is an option in the shell "Create a document" but it is half-deleted...than theres a question - it is normal?11:30
charlie-tcaI'm running Gutsy 7.10, and don't think I have that.11:31
CCCnu mean ur not sure about this option?11:32
charlie-tcayes11:32
charlie-tcaIn 7.10, I have create from template and it allows creating documents in mousepad11:33
CCCnyea...i do too...but i just wonder why its been halfdeleted... i mean green11:35
Alecmgmatteo_: thats a common question11:35
Alecmgthere are some quides11:35
Alecmgbut overall editing xfce menu is a pain11:35
CCCnshell in xfce = pain?11:36
Alecmgshell is a shell11:37
CCCni just cant get it clear...in windows or mac i can create anythin from shell...11:37
CCCnmousepad works, terminal - normal, and shell still keep silence11:39
CCCnw h y11:39
CCCnthats question...11:39
CCCnsilence everywere11:41
CCCncould somes guides help me with enabling root rights in xubuntu permanently?11:44
CCCnany guides?11:45
CCCnim selfmadechatin'shit'lol :-)11:46
Kardosohi all12:52
charlie-tcaKardoso: hello12:53
KardosoCan I run Xubuntu from a slow PC: 64 MB RAM, Pentium 2 processor ?12:54
charlie-tcaI don't think 64 MB is enough. I do run version 6.06 on 192 MB, though12:54
KardosoOk. That is an extra-slow PC, I think, thats running Windows 98.. very very slow12:55
Kardosocharlie-tca: thanks12:56
charlie-tcaI believe it. I have a PII and PIII12:56
charlie-tca:)12:56
RyanVanDiemenhi kardoso, minimum is 192 MB unfortunately12:56
KammyDoeWhy cant I find ndiswrapper-source in the package lists?12:56
KardosoMy home computer is Pentium 4 Dual core, Ubuntu runs great on it.12:56
Kardosohi RyanVanDiemen, ok, thanks12:57
RyanVanDiemennp I run it on 1GB, works well :)12:57
Kardosome too :) i speaked about a school computer12:57
KammyDoe:|12:58
charlie-tcaI got it working on a PIII with 256MB, slow but adequate12:58
KammyDoe:(12:58
* KammyDoe needs help12:58
KardosoI'm running Ubuntu (from home) on Pentium IIII with 1 GB RAM12:58
charlie-tcaKammyDoe: what is it you need help with?12:58
KammyDoeI need help with a Dell to get ndiswrapper running with Xubuntu12:58
KammyDoeusing* Xubuntu12:58
KardosoCharlie-tca: If I need to use that computer (the 64 MB's) I cant wait for the end, because that is too slow :(12:59
charlie-tcaSorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper in 2 years.12:59
charlie-tcaKardoso: I hear you. Maybe upgrade the memory?12:59
KardosoThanks. I would to do it, but I cant, because that is a school computer13:00
charlie-tca:(13:00
KardosoBut, anyway, I will should it to the Director13:00
Kardoso:(13:00
Kardosoat tomorrow13:00
KardosoWhere can I view how many RAM?13:03
MrNazis there an ftp client for ubuntu that isnt totally crappy?13:03
charlie-tcaKardoso: is that required to run Xubuntu RAM?13:04
MrNazxubuntu was designed specifically to be lighter on memory and cpu13:05
MrNazall the built in apps are lightweight13:05
KardosoI want to check how many RAM in the PCs.13:05
MrNazKardoso when you boot up it'll tell you13:05
Kardosook13:05
KardosoMrNaz and Charlie-tca I try it now. I'll come back soon13:06
MrNazKardoso you can also type this:     cat /proc/meminfo13:06
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charlie-tcaMrNaz: I use gftp, but I hear ProFTP is good13:06
Kardoso_MrNaz: ok, thanks13:06
MrNazgftp is pathetic....13:06
Kardoso_MrNaz: to Terminal?13:06
charlie-tcadepends on your use...13:06
MrNazKardoso_ yes13:07
Kardoso_MrNaz, thanks13:07
vonhalenbachhi13:07
MrNazcharlie-tca you cant select multiple files in the que for que management, you cant transfer single files on some servers, its SSH2 file handling is buggy...13:07
MrNazit really is a poor piece of software13:07
Kardoso_I'll try it now. I'll come back soon13:07
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vonhalenbachis it already possible to mount a usb-memorystick with xubuntu?13:08
charlie-tcavonhalenbach: yes13:08
MrNazvonhalenbach it should be plug and play13:08
vonhalenbachoh cool13:08
vonhalenbachWhich version do you use?13:09
MrNazhardy13:09
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KardosoOk, I did13:09
vonhalenbachhm13:09
KardosoHere is the the detalies:13:09
vonhalenbachI just tried hardy with many different sticks. It failed.13:09
charlie-tcavonhalenbach: Are you using Hardy?13:10
vonhalenbachat the moment i use feisty. Hardy is on my other computer.13:10
Kardoso1.PC: 64 MB RAM 2.: 64 MB RAM 3.: 128 MB 4.: 256 MB 5.: 12813:10
KardosoCan I run Xubuntu on 4. PC?13:11
charlie-tcavonhalenbach: i don't remember feisty having that ability. You can try mounting it in /media13:11
vonhalenbachokay13:11
KardosoTheese PCs has PentiumIII13:11
charlie-tcaHardy is different. Some sticks will mount, but they show up in /media instead of the desktop now13:12
vonhalenbachDid you really try a memory stick with your computer? charlie-tca13:12
charlie-tcaNot in Hardy, but in Gutsy and 6.0613:13
vonhalenbachdmesg says something about a dead device.13:13
vonhalenbachlol13:13
charlie-tcaAre you running in a virtual machine?13:13
vonhalenbachthen you should try a bit newer version.13:14
KardosoCharlie-tca and MrNaz: Can I run Xubuntu from the 4th PC? (256 MB RAM, Pentium III)13:14
charlie-tcaKardoso: Yes, you should even be able to use the live CD, I think.13:14
KardosoCharlie-tca: Thanks.13:14
charlie-tcaI'm looking up the requirement, to make sure13:15
charlie-tcaKardoso: verified it. You should be able to run the live CD and install if you want13:16
Kardosook, thx13:16
vonhalenbachKardoso: Yes, you need just a bit more than 128 MB for Xubuntu. But for the lifecd it needs more than 256MB. Try the alternate CD.13:16
charlie-tcagood luck13:16
Kardosothx, i try now... :)13:17
KardosoCan I run Xubuntu from our another computer (1 GB RAM, Intel Celeron) ?13:17
vonhalenbachsure!13:18
Kardosocool, thanks13:18
KardosoI try that too13:18
KardosoI come back soon.13:18
vonhalenbachokay13:18
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vonhalenbachcody-somerville: hi13:20
cody-somervillehi :]13:20
vonhalenbachdo you by chance have a usb-memorystick?13:20
vonhalenbachwhich version do you run? Hardy ?13:21
charlie-tcacody-somerville: what time is the Community council?13:21
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KardosoOk, I'm here.13:21
KardosoSo. Xubuntu started on the 256 MB's PC. It was little slow while it started, but now runs good.13:22
KardosoRuns great on 1 GB RAM + Celeron13:22
vonhalenbachdid you install, or do you use the livecd?13:23
Kardosolive CD13:23
vonhalenbachoh wow.13:23
charlie-tcaKardoso: good to hear that13:23
cody-somervillecharlie-tca, It should be already happening :(13:23
charlie-tcaThat's what I thought, but the council never showed up13:23
KardosoCharlie-tca: thanks, best to see it :)13:23
KardosoI will install it now13:24
KardosoXubuntu is great, I will install it now13:24
KardosoHow many free space need for it?13:24
charlie-tca1.5 GB13:25
Kardosook13:25
vonhalenbachunder 2 GB13:25
KardosoCan it be on a file like as Ubuntu Hardy heron?13:25
charlie-tcaIf you can, though, try to give it about 3 GB, at least13:25
KardosoOr do I need another partition?13:25
vonhalenbachYou want to run it as a file from windows?13:26
Kardosoyes13:26
Kardosoyes, I want13:26
KardosoCan i?13:26
vonhalenbachi don't know, if this is already implemented in Xubuntu.13:26
Kardosook, I will check it soon.13:27
vonhalenbachWhich windows do you have?13:27
KardosoWindows XP on the another computer13:27
Kardosoon my computer Windows Vista13:27
Kardosoand Ubuntu13:27
vonhalenbachokay.13:27
Kardosoi want to install Xubuntu for a file in Windows XP13:28
vonhalenbachYou could do that with ubuntu.13:28
Kardosook13:28
KardosoCan I use the wireless (SMCWUSB) netcard in Xubuntu?13:29
vonhalenbachIt should be possible.13:29
KardosoOk thanks13:29
vonhalenbachYou have to enable and configure it in the network manager.13:30
KardosoOk. I tried it under Ubuntu, it detected automatically13:30
vonhalenbachgreat!13:30
KardosoWill Xubuntu detect it too?13:30
vonhalenbachthen it should be able to detect it too.13:31
KardosoOk, thanks13:31
KardosoI just choosed the network and its worked! :) In Windows, it NEVER worked.. Ubuntu and Xubuntu are great13:32
vonhalenbachIt is getting better.13:32
KardosoWow! Im tested, and I confirm its work13:32
KardosoXubuntu detected it too13:32
vonhalenbachokay. cewl13:32
KardosoCan Xubuntu detect the Mobile HDDs? (Samsung 320GB SATA HDD)13:33
vonhalenbachsure13:33
Kardosoon USB interface13:33
Kardosogreat! thanks13:33
KardosoOk. I'll now logoff, and install Xubuntu. I think it will work great. Thank you all for the help.13:34
vonhalenbachno problem.13:35
KardosoHave a very nice day, good bye13:35
vonhalenbachyou too.13:35
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RyanVanDiemenguys, anybody has some experience playing freeorion ?14:24
RyanVanDiemenI heard it`s still in development phase, so i`m just curious if it`s playable...14:25
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Kardosohi all16:50
charlie-tcahi17:10
charlie-tcaDid the install go well?17:10
KardosoCharlie-tca: Yes, it did:)17:12
Kardosothanks17:12
KardosoNow, its working great17:13
charlie-tcaTerrific. It's great when things work. :)17:13
KardosoThanks. I shoulded to my buddy too. I installed for him too, he think its great too :)17:14
charlie-tcaWoo ee17:14
KardosoHis computer: 256 MB RAM (-8 MB for videocard), Pentium II. He said the Windows is very slow on his computer. When he saw Xubuntu he was very happy :)17:17
charlie-tcaI know that feeling.17:19
Kardoso:)17:20
KardosoCan I install languange packs for an installed Xubuntu?17:22
charlie-tcai think so, but I have never done it.17:23
KardosoWhere? From Synaptics?17:24
TheSheepKardoso: sure, system->language support17:24
KardosoTheSheep: Great! thanks17:24
KardosoIs Hungarian language pack avaible for Xubuntu?17:24
TheSheepshould be there on the list, in the worst case it will be incomplete and some apps will be still in English17:25
TheSheepin that case you can help translating17:25
TheSheep!rosetta17:25
ubotturosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about17:25
KardosoOk. So I can translate?17:26
KardosoOk, thanks for the link I check it17:26
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TheSheepKardoso: it's actually https://translations.launchpad.net/17:29
KardosoTheShepp: ok. Do I need register to translate?17:29
TheSheepI guess so17:29
KardosoOk. I can help translate between English and Hungarian17:30
TheSheepbut then you can use that login also to report bugs and such17:30
Kardosook17:30
KardosoCan I use MSN in Xubuntu? If yes, with which software?17:34
TheSheepKardoso: pidgin, the default messenger, should be able to connect to the msn network17:35
KardosoTheSheep: Ok. Does Pidgin support the MSN's webcam and audio chat?17:35
TheSheepno17:35
TheSheepit'll take some time before they manage to reverse-engineer that17:36
Kardosook. thanks17:36
KardosoI'll now logoff. Thank you all for the help. Have a nice day, good bye.17:37
Kardosohi17:52
Kardosoim back17:52
KardosoCharlie-tca: Hi, I just now see Hungarian avaible too!17:53
charlie-tca:)17:54
Kardosoin the iso file: /isolinux/hu.hlp and hu.tr -- theese are the Hungarian lang files17:54
Kardosoand I didnt saw first :)17:54
KardosoI just wanted to verify it. now i logoff again, good bye17:55
nikolamJust one question.18:27
nikolamWhy there is no binary update paches for linux?18:28
nikolamAfter installing 8.04 LTS I updated to hundreds of megabytes of package updates18:28
nikolamRight now it is downloading linux-image security updated package for hardy-security18:29
nikolam18Mb + something + something +..18:29
nikolamI imagine that if I don`t have fast internet, that it would be very hard to keep up with those updates18:30
nikolamSo why there are no binary paches for ubuntu packages, that would be smaller then downloading whole new updated packages?18:31
zoredachebecause they would be difficult to maintain18:31
zoredachealso it isn't something that apt system has support for right now18:31
nikolamAha.18:32
zoredachebut the real answer is probably... Nobody that knows how to program something like that has cared enough to do it18:32
nikolamSo as far as everyone telling, Linux is mostly for people with fast internet connection.18:33
nikolamUpdate from 8.04 -> 8.04.1 was huge for download, at least18:33
nikolamI also plan to stay with LTS for a long time now18:34
nikolamzoredache, Is there some linux distro that do binary updates ? (so that required bandwith to mantain it is low)18:35
zoredacheI don't think so18:37
zoredacheif you have a good firewall you could just ignore the updates18:37
nikolamafter all security updates are a must.18:38
nikolamOh, I am for updates.18:38
Woo__Does Xubuntu have an option to autocheck for updates, and install them (possibly rebooting) like XP has?18:38
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zoredachenot always... many security updates deal with local exploits.. if your system isn't shared not much bad can happen18:38
nikolamOk, need to go and restart machine :I After this update now18:38
zoredacheWoo: yes....18:38
Woozoredache: What's the problem?18:39
zoredachewhat problem?18:39
WooI interpret many dots as rolling eyes18:40
Wooso I can just find it in a setting for the system somewhere?18:41
zoredacheno the many dots (...) is an elipse.  Which means there is more to come18:41
nikolamWoo, You can make it do manually by starting Synaptic and selecting Settings>Repositories>Updates>Check for updates>Install security updates without confirmation18:41
Wooalright, great18:41
Wooi might set up a farm for some distributed computing18:42
Wooso it would be great if they auto-updated18:42
nikolamThat is it.18:42
Wooi'll go check if i can do it on my home server running ubuntu as well18:42
zoredacheyou also might want to look at 'apticron', or 'auto-apt'18:42
nikolamThat is for security updates. Maybe they would ask for recommended updates and rest non-security updates to confirm on desktop instalaltion18:43
zoredachefor a farm of computers those might be better.  They don't need a gui, and you have more control of when, and what gets updated18:43
WooI don't think it's user friendly enough with no gui18:43
Wooand the compters already have GPUs18:43
Woocomputers*18:44
zoredacheI guess it depends... I managed 50 servers...  I would never want to deal with a gui.  I like being able to fix something in a text file and then copy that text file around via ssh18:45
Woowell you know how :)18:46
Wooi preffer the text edition of the application i'm going to run, but linux is just so much to learn18:46
nikolamzoredache, You have a point.18:46
Wooubuntu had that option as well18:47
Woohow do i close the update manager?18:47
zoredachetry clicking the 'x' at the top right?18:48
Wooit doesn't work18:48
nikolamor y .. :))18:48
zoredacheuse alt-tab a couple times.  Make sure it hasn't opened any sub-windows and close those18:49
Wooi only have one window open18:50
zoredachehrm..18:51
zoredachewell there is always the 'mean' way18:52
zoredachepress 'ctrl-alt-esc' and your mouse pointer will turn into an 'x'  anything you click on will be killed18:52
nikolamSomething about staying on LTS:.. http://ideas.4brad.com/node/48618:52
nikolamzoredache, is there an alternative to finding process with ps -A | grep process and killing it in command line?18:53
nikolam(After killing gui with ctrl-alt-esc)18:54
Woohmm it doesn't like that command on remote desktop18:54
Woodoes xubuntu have that problem as well?18:55
Wooi can only install updates half the time, really18:55
Woounless i do it in the terminal18:56
zoredachenikolam: I am not quite sure what you are asking.  If you want to find kill in one step you can install 'psmisc' and then use 'killall programname'18:56
nikolamAh I would just like that killing GUI means that app is actually closed.18:58
Woolinux should have this19:00
nikolamEh, what should me proper procedure to initiate upgrading package of Browser I use (Seamonkey) to newer security-updated version, so that it would appear in Hardy LTS repository as updated package?19:00
Wooyou open the system monitor, display all open windows and the ability to right click that window and select go to process. right now i don't know what the process that has the frozen update window is called.19:00
nikolamShoul I file security-related bug report about upgrading package?19:00
nikolamWoo you can mostly identify it if it is using 100% cpu or something19:01
zoredacheif there is a package that has a security bug that is in the cureent distro then yes19:01
Woono i can't, system monitor uses 10% and then the rest 0%19:02
Wooalthough i have 100% use due to folding@home, it isn't listed19:02
nikolamor you can use accesories>appfinder , find an application name, righ-click it on more information and found out application name19:02
nikolamthen you can do ps -A | grep appname19:03
nikolamand after finding process ID kill it with kill _pid_19:03
nikolamor kill -9 _pid_ if it won`t close19:03
Woowhere is accessories?19:04
nikolamalso U can use killall appname like zoredache is saying.19:04
vinnlWoo, under "Applications"19:04
nikolamWoo, If you use Xubuntu, it is under Xfce menu19:04
nikolamzoredache, I wuld like to learn to administer Linux/Ubuntu fully from command line (remote ssh administration)19:11
nikolamwhere should i start?19:11
WooI don't see any appfinder under accessories19:15
vonhalenbachI did a Xubuntu 8.04 alternate CD install. It is not possible to mount any usb-memory device.19:22
vonhalenbachThe usb joystick works.19:23
cody-somervilleI mount usb thumb drives just fine.19:23
vonhalenbachOn my Kubuntu Feisty the devices work.19:23
vonhalenbachDid you use the alterate installer?19:24
vonhalenbachOr the lifecd?19:24
cody-somervilleIt shouldn't matter.19:25
vonhalenbachdmesg shows something about option #1 could not be chosen, or something.19:25
vonhalenbachDid you use the lifecd?19:25
cody-somervilleI can't remember.19:26
vonhalenbachhow much memory do you have?19:26
cody-somerville1GB19:27
vonhalenbachThen you used the lifecd.19:27
cody-somervilleI'm pretty sure I used the alternative actually19:27
vonhalenbachcody-somerville: Could you try the alternate install CD on a spare computer?19:27
cody-somervillevonhalenbach, Why?19:28
vonhalenbachTo test, where the failure belongs.19:28
cody-somervilleWhat failure?19:28
vonhalenbachsorry, my english is not very good.19:29
vonhalenbachwhere the error is.19:29
cody-somervilleWhat error are we talking about?19:29
vonhalenbachUsb works, but i can't mount any usb-Memory-devices.19:30
cody-somervillevonhalenbach, It works fine for me.19:30
vonhalenbachfor me not.19:30
vinnlvonhalenbach, what's the difference between USB thumb drives and USB memory devices?19:30
vonhalenbachno difference.19:31
vonhalenbachI mean thumb drives.19:31
vinnlOh wait xD19:31
vinnlThat was Cody's line :P19:31
vonhalenbachI have several different kinds of it.19:31
vinnlvonhalenbach, how many different USB drives have you tried?19:31
vonhalenbachI have tried a 512MB memory stick and a multi-connection Usb-Cardreader.19:32
vonhalenbachAnd i own some digital cameras with a usb-memory device, but i did not test them yet.19:33
vonhalenbachAnd a usb-printer with such a device.19:34
vinnlvonhalenbach, could you try them?19:34
vonhalenbachSo we can together search now, where the error is.19:34
vonhalenbachThey work with my Kubuntu 7.0419:35
vonhalenbachSure, i will connect my printer to the xubuntu computer now.19:35
vinnlHmm, true, then it should work19:35
vinnlvonhalenbach, when you type "lsusb" in a terminal, are the devices shown?19:36
vonhalenbachmaybe it is a driver issue from the kernel?19:36
vonhalenbachWhen i connect the thumbdrive and do a lsusb it hangs for a short while.19:37
vonhalenbachwith the usb-joystick it works normally.19:37
vonhalenbachUsb-Bluetoooth and usb-wlan work too.19:38
vonhalenbachi have to search the dmesg for error messages.19:39
RicoADFG'day guys19:41
vinnlHey RicoADF19:41
RicoADFjust formatted my sister's PC and put Xubuntu on it, finally talked her into letting me give Windows the flick (was quite easy since XP was screwing up royally)19:42
RicoADFive just downloaded the flash plugin which I want to install, whats the command again? (been awhile since ive needed to install a file not in the add/remove list lol)19:43
TheSheepRicoADF: just install it with synaptics19:43
TheSheepsynaptic19:43
RicoADFso just search for flashplayer-installer?19:44
vinnlRicoADF, I believe flashplugin-nonfree19:44
TheSheepflashplugin-nonfree19:44
RicoADFah there it is, thanks :), good thing about Linux is once u set ur machine up u dont need to format and setup again, bad thing is its easy to forget how u did it LOL19:45
vinnlRicoADF, you might want to consider installing xubuntu-restricted-extras :)19:46
zoredacheRicoADF: make notes or make a backup of your system and you'll be able to figured out what you did19:47
RicoADFthankyou, wilco :)19:48
vonhalenbachcody-somerville: With the usb-printer it works. The internal cardreader is supported by xubuntu 8.0420:15
vonhalenbachI am happy now.20:15
cody-somerville:)20:16
vonhalenbach:)20:16
vinnl\0/20:16
TheSheep\./20:18
PHANT0Mahello, can anybody give your /boot dir from 8.04 ?21:17
TheSheepPHANT0Ma: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/79534/21:18
PHANT0MaTheSheep: can you upload grub dir to rapidshare or another place?21:20
TheSheepI'd rather not, there are passwords in there21:21
TheSheepI have custom config anwyays21:21
TheSheepbut you should be able to recreate it with grub-install21:22
PHANT0Ma=( i need message, stage1 stage2 and fat_stage1_521:22
TheSheepno message here, the rest I can uload21:22
PHANT0Mahmmm...21:23
PHANT0Mamaybe default gfxmenu have another name21:24
TheSheepPHANT0Ma: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/grub.tar.gz21:24
PHANT0MaTheSheep: thanks!21:26
SnoopoticHi. I just chose another window-style in the window-manager. and after the reboot the task panel is gone :/ now I have to shutdown/reboot by console :/ do oyu have any idea?21:31
vinnlSnoopotic, try pressing Alt+F2 and running "xfce4-panel"21:32
Snoopoticah there it is.21:40
Snoopoticwhy was it gone?21:41
vinnlI believe it had something to do with RAM, but I'm not sure21:41
fourChanattention rescue 6 and engine 12, a still alarm, respond to broad at potters for a shooting victim from the police21:52
fourChanattention rescue 6 and engine 12, a still alarm, respond to broad at potters for a shooting victim from the police21:52
TGDhi21:54
TheSheephello TGD21:55
TGDi love ubuntu21:55
TGDand xfce21:56
TGDmakes a good combo21:56
David-Alove is a strong word, I have issues with ubuntu and xubuntu, but i "like" them, xubuntu a little more21:56
TGDwat issues21:58
SnoopoticI tried to use it in 7.10 and wasnt surprised. now I am :D21:59
TGDlol21:59
TGDkde rules all ov em tho21:59
Snoopotic8.04 is better. esp of that network manager :D21:59
SnoopoticI cant I use it on a celeron 450mhz with 128 mb ram :D22:00
TGDubuntu should include ndiswrapper22:00
TheSheepkde confuses me -- why does each and every app need to have a menu for changing its colors and fonts?22:00
TGDcuz22:00
TGDits special22:01
TGDlool22:02
TGDi think gnome sux22:02
TheSheepTGD: may I direct your attention to that awesome xubuntu-offtopic channel that gets underused? :)22:02
TGDwhats this 4 then22:03
TheSheep!ot22:03
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!22:03
TGDahh22:03
TheSheepWelcome! :)22:03
TGDi need help22:04
TGDis there a ndiswrapper gui22:04
TheSheepndisgtk22:06
vonhalenbachi wish there would be a gui for bluetooth.22:07
TGDbesides that22:07
TGDill make a bluetooth gui22:07
TheSheepvonhalenbach: there are many, depends on what you do through bluetooth22:07
vonhalenbachand for wlan to see all clients on the net.22:08
TGDi cant install ndisgtk22:08
TheSheepvonhalenbach: you mean like wifiradar or something?22:08
vonhalenbachIs it possible to see in a gui all mobile phones in the bluetooth range?22:08
vonhalenbachyeah.22:08
TGDyep22:09
TGDwhy not get windows22:09
TheSheepvonhalenbach: yes, there are some gnome bt utils for that22:09
vonhalenbachi hate windows.22:09
TGDxp is ok22:09
vonhalenbachi never tried xp22:10
TGDtry it22:10
vonhalenbachno22:10
TheSheepTGD: recommending windows is not really solving anything for xubuntu users, is it?22:10
TGDy22:11
TGDumm22:11
TGDmaby22:11
TGDwindows switched me22:11
TheSheepvonhalenbach: try installing bluez-gnome22:11
vonhalenbachokay. Thank you!22:11
TGDis there a php chan22:12
TheSheepvonhalenbach: then bluetooth-properties should list all devices in range22:12
vonhalenbachcool!22:12
TGDi need a bt adapter22:13
TGDfor ubuntu22:13
TGDrecomend me 1 plz22:14
TGDengland plz22:14
TheSheepTGD: http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices22:15
TGDwill ndiswrapper install bt drivers?22:15
TheSheepno idea22:16
TGDit worked for my graphics card22:16
TGDsoo sory22:18
TGDerror22:18
TGDhmm22:18
thinkmassivein evolution the font of selected items is the same as the background color (of the selected item) until I click somewhere else... has anyone else noticed this?22:19
thinkmassiveactually it's white until I change focus, then it returns to black22:19
vinnlthinkmassive, is this with Xubuntu's default theme?22:19
thinkmassiveno, is that a function of the theme?22:20
thinkmassiveit's fine in other app's as far as I've noticed, only evolution shows the bug22:20
TheSheepthinkmassive: either that or evolution has the colors hardcoded22:20
TGDwebmin always works22:20
thinkmassivenow that you all mention it, I think my text highlight color is usually white...22:21
thinkmassiveit's just strange how evolution reverts it to black when I defocus the newly selected item, oh well22:22
TheSheepthinkmassive: report a bug in evolution :)22:22
vinnlUpstream I suppose22:23
TGDubottu has died22:27
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about has died22:27
TGDwhy shoulnt i use debian stuff on ubuntu22:32
TheSheepTGD: because the packages might be incomatible in nasty and non-obvious ways, leading to brakage and data loss22:33
TGDok so22:33
TGDkeep the live cd22:34
TheSheepdata loss as in losing your own files22:34
TheSheepor breaking them22:34
TGDoh well22:35
TGDim used to it22:35
TheSheepdo it at your own risk22:35
TheSheepbut don't recommend to others22:35
TGDok22:36
TGDi only use ubuntu packagges anyway22:36
Snoopoticheh lol22:40
Snoopoticin 7.10 it couldnt get into hibernate. now in 8.04 it doesnt come back from hibernate ^^ lol22:40
TGDwhats better compile php myself ot apt-get?22:40
TheSheepSnoopotic: make sure you have enough swap space22:40
TheSheepTGD: the latter22:41
TGDhuh22:41
SnoopoticTheSheep ... enough? :D I have 128 MB RAM... and made a 256 MB swappartition.22:41
TGDhow much swap space i need22:41
Snoopoticis it enough? :D my hdd is only 6GB :D22:42
TheSheepSnoopotic: well, you need at least as much *free* swap space when you are hibernating as you have ram22:42
TheSheepSnoopotic: so unless you normally use 128MB of swap, it's ok22:43
TGDmake a 2 gig swap space22:43
TheSheepTGD: please22:43
TGDplease22:43
TGDitl help22:43
TGDalot22:43
vinnlTGD, not if you hard drive is only 6GB22:44
TGDlol22:44
David-Amy firefox 2 currently use 86MB ram and 235MB ram+swap. 256MB swap seems a little to little. firefox 3 is said to be better.22:44
TheSheepDavid-A: you can also limit ff222:44
David-ATheSheep: i have tried22:45
TGDbuy more rar or bigger hdd22:45
TheSheepTGD: please22:46
TGDplease22:46
TGDitl help22:46
TGDor stripping the os might help22:47
TheSheepTGD: can you stop giving these pointless advices, like trying windows xp, buying better hardware, etc.?22:48
TGDbut u need the know how22:48
TheSheepSnoopotic: any messages you get? anything in dmesg?22:48
Snoopotichmm lets see22:49
* charlie-tca thanks, TheSheep22:52
Snoopoticbtw I set the boot-flag acpi=force :D22:52
TheSheepSnoopotic: if it works...22:54
* TheSheep tests his hibernation22:55
Snoopoticbetter than without ^^22:55
Snoopoticwithout it doesnt power off, ther I need to power off manually after "halt"-ing22:55
Snoopoticwhatever i dont really need hibernation :D22:56
Snoopoticit might speed up the boot process of that "machine" but maybe it slows down after some reboots rom hibernation :D22:57
TheSheepnope, doesn't work22:57
Snoopotic^^22:58
Snoopoticdo you know if there is any client to do a remote-desktop session to a windows-computer just with its builtin remote desktop? is there a linux client that can handle windows remotedesktop?23:00
TheSheepSnoopotic: sure, for starters the one installed by default should handle it23:01
TheSheepSnoopotic: there is aso command-line one called 'rdesktop'23:02
TheSheepalso23:02
Snoopoticsure? hmm so you mean I just need to enter the correct port? hmm23:02
TheSheepyou might need to enable it on the windows side23:02
thinkmassiveSnoopotic: I use rdesktop all the time and it works great23:12
thinkmassiveremote desktop is usually disabled by default on XP and Vista though23:13
Snoopotichaha nice.23:18
Snoopoticyeah im on it now ^^23:18
Snoopoticits very fast.23:18
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