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resproblem | hello...i'm on xubuntu 8 and my resolution is stuck at 800x600; whenever i try the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command, no video settings pop up like every online forums says | 03:02 |
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resproblem | anyone know whats wrong with my reconfigure thing? | 03:02 |
LetsGo67 | How do I share songs from Xubuntu to a Vista PC? | 03:36 |
LetsGo67 | Anyone? | 03:39 |
fourChan | is it possible to install a clean version of ubuntu? without any software? | 04:01 |
fourChan | is it possible to install a clean version of ubuntu? without any software? | 04:01 |
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CostaRicanQuaker | i have kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu isntalled | 06:37 |
CostaRicanQuaker | how do i get the bar to be on the bottom, | 06:38 |
CostaRicanQuaker | the taskbar with the menu | 06:38 |
CostaRicanQuaker | and how do i get the maclike bubbly menu | 06:38 |
CostaRicanQuaker | brb gotta reboot | 06:38 |
fretlessdavis | hey, wine left a bunch of unused icons from old programs in my applications list under 'other'; how can I get rid of them since I can't access that from the menu manager? | 07:32 |
fretlessdavis | anyone? sorry... I'm a total newbie | 07:36 |
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zoredache | fretlessdavis: what was your question? | 07:51 |
fretlessdavis | wine left a bunch of stuff in an other directory | 07:55 |
fretlessdavis | stuff that's not on my system | 07:55 |
fretlessdavis | how do I gt rid of it? | 07:55 |
fretlessdavis | applications> othr | 07:56 |
fretlessdavis | other* | 07:56 |
zoredache | just drag it to the trash? | 07:56 |
fretlessdavis | can't get rid of it in menu settings | 07:56 |
zoredache | oh, in the menu.... | 07:56 |
RyanVanDiemen | the best thing is to edit the menu and leave the tick box empty next to it | 07:57 |
RyanVanDiemen | that`s the cleanest solution i guess | 07:57 |
fretlessdavis | I can't get to that directory in the menu settings... that's where I'm having trouble | 07:58 |
zoredache | http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/manually-edit-the-xfce-menu/ | 07:59 |
zoredache | http://xfce.wikia.com/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_to_edit_the_auto_generated_menu_with_the_menu_editor.3F | 08:00 |
zoredache | those two articles look like they might address what you want | 08:01 |
fretlessdavis | thanks zoredache | 08:01 |
zoredache | but anyway I believe you can't edit it because some of the menu is generated based on the .desktop files | 08:02 |
zoredache | you would find those in /usr/share/applications. You might want to take a quick peak in that folder to see if it has any files that match what you are trying to remove | 08:04 |
CCCn | hi why im unable to create any kind of docs? | 08:05 |
zoredache | CCCn: perhaps you are looking for the wrong thing... Maybe you are looking for what xfce calls a 'panel' | 08:06 |
fretlessdavis | zoredache: they're there, but I can't delete them from the browser | 08:07 |
fretlessdavis | will I be able to at the terminal? | 08:07 |
zoredache | fretlessdavis: from the terminal you will be able to delete if you do it with sudo | 08:07 |
fretlessdavis | k thanks | 08:08 |
fretlessdavis | what's the command for delete? | 08:08 |
fretlessdavis | I just recently switched to linux | 08:08 |
zoredache | you could also do a 'gksu thunar' to start up a root file browser | 08:08 |
fretlessdavis | still have dos commands in my head :-/ | 08:08 |
zoredache | fretlessdavis: the delete command is 'rm filename' | 08:08 |
fretlessdavis | 'k | 08:08 |
fretlessdavis | thanks for the root access in thunar command | 08:10 |
fretlessdavis | I got it | 08:10 |
CCCn | im in root's group already......zooredache....i do the same at the terminal but it cant be saved or closed (it close by term only) | 08:10 |
zoredache | CCCn: what? | 08:11 |
CCCn | create a doc...i mean | 08:11 |
zoredache | what do you mean when you say 'doc'? | 08:12 |
zoredache | are you talking about something like the thing at the bottem of the screen in OSX or are you talking about a MSWord compatible file | 08:13 |
CCCn | i can create it in terminal (DOCument) but it still cant be saved | 08:13 |
fretlessdavis | hmmm. they're not in that folder. I'll take a look at those links and ask at #winehq since wine did it | 08:13 |
fretlessdavis | thanks! | 08:13 |
CCCn | im talkin bout linux .conf file (4 example) | 08:15 |
CCCn | in terminal im usin somthing like that ^O^S | 08:15 |
CCCn | oh man tell me that im loser & i go away... | 08:17 |
CCCn | :-) | 08:17 |
zoredache | you aren't a loser.... | 08:18 |
CCCn | ok thx | 08:18 |
zoredache | what program are you trying to use to edit the file? | 08:18 |
CCCn | first it was terminal | 08:18 |
zoredache | if you want to edit something outside of your home directory in a terminal a command like 'gksu nano /etc/filename' would be what you want | 08:19 |
zoredache | if you want a gui you could simply do an 'alt-f2' and run 'gksu mousepad' | 08:20 |
CCCn | ok stop and big thankz ill try it after ok!!! thx zore | 08:21 |
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fretlessdavis | I accidentily deleted my last panel | 09:25 |
fretlessdavis | how can I get it back? | 09:25 |
fretlessdavis | anyone? | 09:29 |
fretlessdavis_ | anyone know how to get panels back? I accidentily deleted the only one I had | 09:34 |
fretlessdavis | anyone, I'm afraid to do anything until I can fix it | 09:40 |
RyanVanDiemen | hi guys | 10:44 |
RyanVanDiemen | does anybody know how do I change bootsplash in xubuntu? | 10:44 |
RyanVanDiemen | I installed xubuntu-desktop on top of my gnome-ubuntu installation and would like to change my bootsplash into xubuntu one without re-installing the system | 10:47 |
piju | RyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager | 10:48 |
RyanVanDiemen | you can modify these settings there? | 10:49 |
piju | RyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager | 10:50 |
piju | RyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager | 10:50 |
piju | RyanVanDiemen, install startupmanager | 10:50 |
RyanVanDiemen | ok, I`ll check that, thank you | 10:50 |
piju | np | 10:51 |
RyanVanDiemen | I found on their page that you can even edit GRUB with startupmanager, but I use qgrubeditor for GRUB editing, will they not collide or something? | 10:51 |
matteo_ | Hi, anyone know how i can edit the xfce menu in Xubuntu 8.04?? | 11:07 |
Rev_ | hello ppl | 11:14 |
CCCn | hello and i wonna know it again :-) there is an option in the shell "Create a document" but it is half-deleted...than theres a question - it is normal? | 11:30 |
charlie-tca | I'm running Gutsy 7.10, and don't think I have that. | 11:31 |
CCCn | u mean ur not sure about this option? | 11:32 |
charlie-tca | yes | 11:32 |
charlie-tca | In 7.10, I have create from template and it allows creating documents in mousepad | 11:33 |
CCCn | yea...i do too...but i just wonder why its been halfdeleted... i mean green | 11:35 |
Alecmg | matteo_: thats a common question | 11:35 |
Alecmg | there are some quides | 11:35 |
Alecmg | but overall editing xfce menu is a pain | 11:35 |
CCCn | shell in xfce = pain? | 11:36 |
Alecmg | shell is a shell | 11:37 |
CCCn | i just cant get it clear...in windows or mac i can create anythin from shell... | 11:37 |
CCCn | mousepad works, terminal - normal, and shell still keep silence | 11:39 |
CCCn | w h y | 11:39 |
CCCn | thats question... | 11:39 |
CCCn | silence everywere | 11:41 |
CCCn | could somes guides help me with enabling root rights in xubuntu permanently? | 11:44 |
CCCn | any guides? | 11:45 |
CCCn | im selfmadechatin'shit'lol :-) | 11:46 |
Kardoso | hi all | 12:52 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: hello | 12:53 |
Kardoso | Can I run Xubuntu from a slow PC: 64 MB RAM, Pentium 2 processor ? | 12:54 |
charlie-tca | I don't think 64 MB is enough. I do run version 6.06 on 192 MB, though | 12:54 |
Kardoso | Ok. That is an extra-slow PC, I think, thats running Windows 98.. very very slow | 12:55 |
Kardoso | charlie-tca: thanks | 12:56 |
charlie-tca | I believe it. I have a PII and PIII | 12:56 |
charlie-tca | :) | 12:56 |
RyanVanDiemen | hi kardoso, minimum is 192 MB unfortunately | 12:56 |
KammyDoe | Why cant I find ndiswrapper-source in the package lists? | 12:56 |
Kardoso | My home computer is Pentium 4 Dual core, Ubuntu runs great on it. | 12:56 |
Kardoso | hi RyanVanDiemen, ok, thanks | 12:57 |
RyanVanDiemen | np I run it on 1GB, works well :) | 12:57 |
Kardoso | me too :) i speaked about a school computer | 12:57 |
KammyDoe | :| | 12:58 |
charlie-tca | I got it working on a PIII with 256MB, slow but adequate | 12:58 |
KammyDoe | :( | 12:58 |
* KammyDoe needs help | 12:58 | |
Kardoso | I'm running Ubuntu (from home) on Pentium IIII with 1 GB RAM | 12:58 |
charlie-tca | KammyDoe: what is it you need help with? | 12:58 |
KammyDoe | I need help with a Dell to get ndiswrapper running with Xubuntu | 12:58 |
KammyDoe | using* Xubuntu | 12:58 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca: If I need to use that computer (the 64 MB's) I cant wait for the end, because that is too slow :( | 12:59 |
charlie-tca | Sorry, I haven't used ndiswrapper in 2 years. | 12:59 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: I hear you. Maybe upgrade the memory? | 12:59 |
Kardoso | Thanks. I would to do it, but I cant, because that is a school computer | 13:00 |
charlie-tca | :( | 13:00 |
Kardoso | But, anyway, I will should it to the Director | 13:00 |
Kardoso | :( | 13:00 |
Kardoso | at tomorrow | 13:00 |
Kardoso | Where can I view how many RAM? | 13:03 |
MrNaz | is there an ftp client for ubuntu that isnt totally crappy? | 13:03 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: is that required to run Xubuntu RAM? | 13:04 |
MrNaz | xubuntu was designed specifically to be lighter on memory and cpu | 13:05 |
MrNaz | all the built in apps are lightweight | 13:05 |
Kardoso | I want to check how many RAM in the PCs. | 13:05 |
MrNaz | Kardoso when you boot up it'll tell you | 13:05 |
Kardoso | ok | 13:05 |
Kardoso | MrNaz and Charlie-tca I try it now. I'll come back soon | 13:06 |
MrNaz | Kardoso you can also type this: cat /proc/meminfo | 13:06 |
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charlie-tca | MrNaz: I use gftp, but I hear ProFTP is good | 13:06 |
Kardoso_ | MrNaz: ok, thanks | 13:06 |
MrNaz | gftp is pathetic.... | 13:06 |
Kardoso_ | MrNaz: to Terminal? | 13:06 |
charlie-tca | depends on your use... | 13:06 |
MrNaz | Kardoso_ yes | 13:07 |
Kardoso_ | MrNaz, thanks | 13:07 |
vonhalenbach | hi | 13:07 |
MrNaz | charlie-tca you cant select multiple files in the que for que management, you cant transfer single files on some servers, its SSH2 file handling is buggy... | 13:07 |
MrNaz | it really is a poor piece of software | 13:07 |
Kardoso_ | I'll try it now. I'll come back soon | 13:07 |
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vonhalenbach | is it already possible to mount a usb-memorystick with xubuntu? | 13:08 |
charlie-tca | vonhalenbach: yes | 13:08 |
MrNaz | vonhalenbach it should be plug and play | 13:08 |
vonhalenbach | oh cool | 13:08 |
vonhalenbach | Which version do you use? | 13:09 |
MrNaz | hardy | 13:09 |
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Kardoso | Ok, I did | 13:09 |
vonhalenbach | hm | 13:09 |
Kardoso | Here is the the detalies: | 13:09 |
vonhalenbach | I just tried hardy with many different sticks. It failed. | 13:09 |
charlie-tca | vonhalenbach: Are you using Hardy? | 13:10 |
vonhalenbach | at the moment i use feisty. Hardy is on my other computer. | 13:10 |
Kardoso | 1.PC: 64 MB RAM 2.: 64 MB RAM 3.: 128 MB 4.: 256 MB 5.: 128 | 13:10 |
Kardoso | Can I run Xubuntu on 4. PC? | 13:11 |
charlie-tca | vonhalenbach: i don't remember feisty having that ability. You can try mounting it in /media | 13:11 |
vonhalenbach | okay | 13:11 |
Kardoso | Theese PCs has PentiumIII | 13:11 |
charlie-tca | Hardy is different. Some sticks will mount, but they show up in /media instead of the desktop now | 13:12 |
vonhalenbach | Did you really try a memory stick with your computer? charlie-tca | 13:12 |
charlie-tca | Not in Hardy, but in Gutsy and 6.06 | 13:13 |
vonhalenbach | dmesg says something about a dead device. | 13:13 |
vonhalenbach | lol | 13:13 |
charlie-tca | Are you running in a virtual machine? | 13:13 |
vonhalenbach | then you should try a bit newer version. | 13:14 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca and MrNaz: Can I run Xubuntu from the 4th PC? (256 MB RAM, Pentium III) | 13:14 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: Yes, you should even be able to use the live CD, I think. | 13:14 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca: Thanks. | 13:14 |
charlie-tca | I'm looking up the requirement, to make sure | 13:15 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: verified it. You should be able to run the live CD and install if you want | 13:16 |
Kardoso | ok, thx | 13:16 |
vonhalenbach | Kardoso: Yes, you need just a bit more than 128 MB for Xubuntu. But for the lifecd it needs more than 256MB. Try the alternate CD. | 13:16 |
charlie-tca | good luck | 13:16 |
Kardoso | thx, i try now... :) | 13:17 |
Kardoso | Can I run Xubuntu from our another computer (1 GB RAM, Intel Celeron) ? | 13:17 |
vonhalenbach | sure! | 13:18 |
Kardoso | cool, thanks | 13:18 |
Kardoso | I try that too | 13:18 |
Kardoso | I come back soon. | 13:18 |
vonhalenbach | okay | 13:18 |
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vonhalenbach | cody-somerville: hi | 13:20 |
cody-somerville | hi :] | 13:20 |
vonhalenbach | do you by chance have a usb-memorystick? | 13:20 |
vonhalenbach | which version do you run? Hardy ? | 13:21 |
charlie-tca | cody-somerville: what time is the Community council? | 13:21 |
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Kardoso | Ok, I'm here. | 13:21 |
Kardoso | So. Xubuntu started on the 256 MB's PC. It was little slow while it started, but now runs good. | 13:22 |
Kardoso | Runs great on 1 GB RAM + Celeron | 13:22 |
vonhalenbach | did you install, or do you use the livecd? | 13:23 |
Kardoso | live CD | 13:23 |
vonhalenbach | oh wow. | 13:23 |
charlie-tca | Kardoso: good to hear that | 13:23 |
cody-somerville | charlie-tca, It should be already happening :( | 13:23 |
charlie-tca | That's what I thought, but the council never showed up | 13:23 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca: thanks, best to see it :) | 13:23 |
Kardoso | I will install it now | 13:24 |
Kardoso | Xubuntu is great, I will install it now | 13:24 |
Kardoso | How many free space need for it? | 13:24 |
charlie-tca | 1.5 GB | 13:25 |
Kardoso | ok | 13:25 |
vonhalenbach | under 2 GB | 13:25 |
Kardoso | Can it be on a file like as Ubuntu Hardy heron? | 13:25 |
charlie-tca | If you can, though, try to give it about 3 GB, at least | 13:25 |
Kardoso | Or do I need another partition? | 13:25 |
vonhalenbach | You want to run it as a file from windows? | 13:26 |
Kardoso | yes | 13:26 |
Kardoso | yes, I want | 13:26 |
Kardoso | Can i? | 13:26 |
vonhalenbach | i don't know, if this is already implemented in Xubuntu. | 13:26 |
Kardoso | ok, I will check it soon. | 13:27 |
vonhalenbach | Which windows do you have? | 13:27 |
Kardoso | Windows XP on the another computer | 13:27 |
Kardoso | on my computer Windows Vista | 13:27 |
Kardoso | and Ubuntu | 13:27 |
vonhalenbach | okay. | 13:27 |
Kardoso | i want to install Xubuntu for a file in Windows XP | 13:28 |
vonhalenbach | You could do that with ubuntu. | 13:28 |
Kardoso | ok | 13:28 |
Kardoso | Can I use the wireless (SMCWUSB) netcard in Xubuntu? | 13:29 |
vonhalenbach | It should be possible. | 13:29 |
Kardoso | Ok thanks | 13:29 |
vonhalenbach | You have to enable and configure it in the network manager. | 13:30 |
Kardoso | Ok. I tried it under Ubuntu, it detected automatically | 13:30 |
vonhalenbach | great! | 13:30 |
Kardoso | Will Xubuntu detect it too? | 13:30 |
vonhalenbach | then it should be able to detect it too. | 13:31 |
Kardoso | Ok, thanks | 13:31 |
Kardoso | I just choosed the network and its worked! :) In Windows, it NEVER worked.. Ubuntu and Xubuntu are great | 13:32 |
vonhalenbach | It is getting better. | 13:32 |
Kardoso | Wow! Im tested, and I confirm its work | 13:32 |
Kardoso | Xubuntu detected it too | 13:32 |
vonhalenbach | okay. cewl | 13:32 |
Kardoso | Can Xubuntu detect the Mobile HDDs? (Samsung 320GB SATA HDD) | 13:33 |
vonhalenbach | sure | 13:33 |
Kardoso | on USB interface | 13:33 |
Kardoso | great! thanks | 13:33 |
Kardoso | Ok. I'll now logoff, and install Xubuntu. I think it will work great. Thank you all for the help. | 13:34 |
vonhalenbach | no problem. | 13:35 |
Kardoso | Have a very nice day, good bye | 13:35 |
vonhalenbach | you too. | 13:35 |
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RyanVanDiemen | guys, anybody has some experience playing freeorion ? | 14:24 |
RyanVanDiemen | I heard it`s still in development phase, so i`m just curious if it`s playable... | 14:25 |
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Kardoso | hi all | 16:50 |
charlie-tca | hi | 17:10 |
charlie-tca | Did the install go well? | 17:10 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca: Yes, it did:) | 17:12 |
Kardoso | thanks | 17:12 |
Kardoso | Now, its working great | 17:13 |
charlie-tca | Terrific. It's great when things work. :) | 17:13 |
Kardoso | Thanks. I shoulded to my buddy too. I installed for him too, he think its great too :) | 17:14 |
charlie-tca | Woo ee | 17:14 |
Kardoso | His computer: 256 MB RAM (-8 MB for videocard), Pentium II. He said the Windows is very slow on his computer. When he saw Xubuntu he was very happy :) | 17:17 |
charlie-tca | I know that feeling. | 17:19 |
Kardoso | :) | 17:20 |
Kardoso | Can I install languange packs for an installed Xubuntu? | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | i think so, but I have never done it. | 17:23 |
Kardoso | Where? From Synaptics? | 17:24 |
TheSheep | Kardoso: sure, system->language support | 17:24 |
Kardoso | TheSheep: Great! thanks | 17:24 |
Kardoso | Is Hungarian language pack avaible for Xubuntu? | 17:24 |
TheSheep | should be there on the list, in the worst case it will be incomplete and some apps will be still in English | 17:25 |
TheSheep | in that case you can help translating | 17:25 |
TheSheep | !rosetta | 17:25 |
ubottu | rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language. See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about | 17:25 |
Kardoso | Ok. So I can translate? | 17:26 |
Kardoso | Ok, thanks for the link I check it | 17:26 |
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TheSheep | Kardoso: it's actually https://translations.launchpad.net/ | 17:29 |
Kardoso | TheShepp: ok. Do I need register to translate? | 17:29 |
TheSheep | I guess so | 17:29 |
Kardoso | Ok. I can help translate between English and Hungarian | 17:30 |
TheSheep | but then you can use that login also to report bugs and such | 17:30 |
Kardoso | ok | 17:30 |
Kardoso | Can I use MSN in Xubuntu? If yes, with which software? | 17:34 |
TheSheep | Kardoso: pidgin, the default messenger, should be able to connect to the msn network | 17:35 |
Kardoso | TheSheep: Ok. Does Pidgin support the MSN's webcam and audio chat? | 17:35 |
TheSheep | no | 17:35 |
TheSheep | it'll take some time before they manage to reverse-engineer that | 17:36 |
Kardoso | ok. thanks | 17:36 |
Kardoso | I'll now logoff. Thank you all for the help. Have a nice day, good bye. | 17:37 |
Kardoso | hi | 17:52 |
Kardoso | im back | 17:52 |
Kardoso | Charlie-tca: Hi, I just now see Hungarian avaible too! | 17:53 |
charlie-tca | :) | 17:54 |
Kardoso | in the iso file: /isolinux/hu.hlp and hu.tr -- theese are the Hungarian lang files | 17:54 |
Kardoso | and I didnt saw first :) | 17:54 |
Kardoso | I just wanted to verify it. now i logoff again, good bye | 17:55 |
nikolam | Just one question. | 18:27 |
nikolam | Why there is no binary update paches for linux? | 18:28 |
nikolam | After installing 8.04 LTS I updated to hundreds of megabytes of package updates | 18:28 |
nikolam | Right now it is downloading linux-image security updated package for hardy-security | 18:29 |
nikolam | 18Mb + something + something +.. | 18:29 |
nikolam | I imagine that if I don`t have fast internet, that it would be very hard to keep up with those updates | 18:30 |
nikolam | So why there are no binary paches for ubuntu packages, that would be smaller then downloading whole new updated packages? | 18:31 |
zoredache | because they would be difficult to maintain | 18:31 |
zoredache | also it isn't something that apt system has support for right now | 18:31 |
nikolam | Aha. | 18:32 |
zoredache | but the real answer is probably... Nobody that knows how to program something like that has cared enough to do it | 18:32 |
nikolam | So as far as everyone telling, Linux is mostly for people with fast internet connection. | 18:33 |
nikolam | Update from 8.04 -> 8.04.1 was huge for download, at least | 18:33 |
nikolam | I also plan to stay with LTS for a long time now | 18:34 |
nikolam | zoredache, Is there some linux distro that do binary updates ? (so that required bandwith to mantain it is low) | 18:35 |
zoredache | I don't think so | 18:37 |
zoredache | if you have a good firewall you could just ignore the updates | 18:37 |
nikolam | after all security updates are a must. | 18:38 |
nikolam | Oh, I am for updates. | 18:38 |
Woo__ | Does Xubuntu have an option to autocheck for updates, and install them (possibly rebooting) like XP has? | 18:38 |
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zoredache | not always... many security updates deal with local exploits.. if your system isn't shared not much bad can happen | 18:38 |
nikolam | Ok, need to go and restart machine :I After this update now | 18:38 |
zoredache | Woo: yes.... | 18:38 |
Woo | zoredache: What's the problem? | 18:39 |
zoredache | what problem? | 18:39 |
Woo | I interpret many dots as rolling eyes | 18:40 |
Woo | so I can just find it in a setting for the system somewhere? | 18:41 |
zoredache | no the many dots (...) is an elipse. Which means there is more to come | 18:41 |
nikolam | Woo, You can make it do manually by starting Synaptic and selecting Settings>Repositories>Updates>Check for updates>Install security updates without confirmation | 18:41 |
Woo | alright, great | 18:41 |
Woo | i might set up a farm for some distributed computing | 18:42 |
Woo | so it would be great if they auto-updated | 18:42 |
nikolam | That is it. | 18:42 |
Woo | i'll go check if i can do it on my home server running ubuntu as well | 18:42 |
zoredache | you also might want to look at 'apticron', or 'auto-apt' | 18:42 |
nikolam | That is for security updates. Maybe they would ask for recommended updates and rest non-security updates to confirm on desktop instalaltion | 18:43 |
zoredache | for a farm of computers those might be better. They don't need a gui, and you have more control of when, and what gets updated | 18:43 |
Woo | I don't think it's user friendly enough with no gui | 18:43 |
Woo | and the compters already have GPUs | 18:43 |
Woo | computers* | 18:44 |
zoredache | I guess it depends... I managed 50 servers... I would never want to deal with a gui. I like being able to fix something in a text file and then copy that text file around via ssh | 18:45 |
Woo | well you know how :) | 18:46 |
Woo | i preffer the text edition of the application i'm going to run, but linux is just so much to learn | 18:46 |
nikolam | zoredache, You have a point. | 18:46 |
Woo | ubuntu had that option as well | 18:47 |
Woo | how do i close the update manager? | 18:47 |
zoredache | try clicking the 'x' at the top right? | 18:48 |
Woo | it doesn't work | 18:48 |
nikolam | or y .. :)) | 18:48 |
zoredache | use alt-tab a couple times. Make sure it hasn't opened any sub-windows and close those | 18:49 |
Woo | i only have one window open | 18:50 |
zoredache | hrm.. | 18:51 |
zoredache | well there is always the 'mean' way | 18:52 |
zoredache | press 'ctrl-alt-esc' and your mouse pointer will turn into an 'x' anything you click on will be killed | 18:52 |
nikolam | Something about staying on LTS:.. http://ideas.4brad.com/node/486 | 18:52 |
nikolam | zoredache, is there an alternative to finding process with ps -A | grep process and killing it in command line? | 18:53 |
nikolam | (After killing gui with ctrl-alt-esc) | 18:54 |
Woo | hmm it doesn't like that command on remote desktop | 18:54 |
Woo | does xubuntu have that problem as well? | 18:55 |
Woo | i can only install updates half the time, really | 18:55 |
Woo | unless i do it in the terminal | 18:56 |
zoredache | nikolam: I am not quite sure what you are asking. If you want to find kill in one step you can install 'psmisc' and then use 'killall programname' | 18:56 |
nikolam | Ah I would just like that killing GUI means that app is actually closed. | 18:58 |
Woo | linux should have this | 19:00 |
nikolam | Eh, what should me proper procedure to initiate upgrading package of Browser I use (Seamonkey) to newer security-updated version, so that it would appear in Hardy LTS repository as updated package? | 19:00 |
Woo | you open the system monitor, display all open windows and the ability to right click that window and select go to process. right now i don't know what the process that has the frozen update window is called. | 19:00 |
nikolam | Shoul I file security-related bug report about upgrading package? | 19:00 |
nikolam | Woo you can mostly identify it if it is using 100% cpu or something | 19:01 |
zoredache | if there is a package that has a security bug that is in the cureent distro then yes | 19:01 |
Woo | no i can't, system monitor uses 10% and then the rest 0% | 19:02 |
Woo | although i have 100% use due to folding@home, it isn't listed | 19:02 |
nikolam | or you can use accesories>appfinder , find an application name, righ-click it on more information and found out application name | 19:02 |
nikolam | then you can do ps -A | grep appname | 19:03 |
nikolam | and after finding process ID kill it with kill _pid_ | 19:03 |
nikolam | or kill -9 _pid_ if it won`t close | 19:03 |
Woo | where is accessories? | 19:04 |
nikolam | also U can use killall appname like zoredache is saying. | 19:04 |
vinnl | Woo, under "Applications" | 19:04 |
nikolam | Woo, If you use Xubuntu, it is under Xfce menu | 19:04 |
nikolam | zoredache, I wuld like to learn to administer Linux/Ubuntu fully from command line (remote ssh administration) | 19:11 |
nikolam | where should i start? | 19:11 |
Woo | I don't see any appfinder under accessories | 19:15 |
vonhalenbach | I did a Xubuntu 8.04 alternate CD install. It is not possible to mount any usb-memory device. | 19:22 |
vonhalenbach | The usb joystick works. | 19:23 |
cody-somerville | I mount usb thumb drives just fine. | 19:23 |
vonhalenbach | On my Kubuntu Feisty the devices work. | 19:23 |
vonhalenbach | Did you use the alterate installer? | 19:24 |
vonhalenbach | Or the lifecd? | 19:24 |
cody-somerville | It shouldn't matter. | 19:25 |
vonhalenbach | dmesg shows something about option #1 could not be chosen, or something. | 19:25 |
vonhalenbach | Did you use the lifecd? | 19:25 |
cody-somerville | I can't remember. | 19:26 |
vonhalenbach | how much memory do you have? | 19:26 |
cody-somerville | 1GB | 19:27 |
vonhalenbach | Then you used the lifecd. | 19:27 |
cody-somerville | I'm pretty sure I used the alternative actually | 19:27 |
vonhalenbach | cody-somerville: Could you try the alternate install CD on a spare computer? | 19:27 |
cody-somerville | vonhalenbach, Why? | 19:28 |
vonhalenbach | To test, where the failure belongs. | 19:28 |
cody-somerville | What failure? | 19:28 |
vonhalenbach | sorry, my english is not very good. | 19:29 |
vonhalenbach | where the error is. | 19:29 |
cody-somerville | What error are we talking about? | 19:29 |
vonhalenbach | Usb works, but i can't mount any usb-Memory-devices. | 19:30 |
cody-somerville | vonhalenbach, It works fine for me. | 19:30 |
vonhalenbach | for me not. | 19:30 |
vinnl | vonhalenbach, what's the difference between USB thumb drives and USB memory devices? | 19:30 |
vonhalenbach | no difference. | 19:31 |
vonhalenbach | I mean thumb drives. | 19:31 |
vinnl | Oh wait xD | 19:31 |
vinnl | That was Cody's line :P | 19:31 |
vonhalenbach | I have several different kinds of it. | 19:31 |
vinnl | vonhalenbach, how many different USB drives have you tried? | 19:31 |
vonhalenbach | I have tried a 512MB memory stick and a multi-connection Usb-Cardreader. | 19:32 |
vonhalenbach | And i own some digital cameras with a usb-memory device, but i did not test them yet. | 19:33 |
vonhalenbach | And a usb-printer with such a device. | 19:34 |
vinnl | vonhalenbach, could you try them? | 19:34 |
vonhalenbach | So we can together search now, where the error is. | 19:34 |
vonhalenbach | They work with my Kubuntu 7.04 | 19:35 |
vonhalenbach | Sure, i will connect my printer to the xubuntu computer now. | 19:35 |
vinnl | Hmm, true, then it should work | 19:35 |
vinnl | vonhalenbach, when you type "lsusb" in a terminal, are the devices shown? | 19:36 |
vonhalenbach | maybe it is a driver issue from the kernel? | 19:36 |
vonhalenbach | When i connect the thumbdrive and do a lsusb it hangs for a short while. | 19:37 |
vonhalenbach | with the usb-joystick it works normally. | 19:37 |
vonhalenbach | Usb-Bluetoooth and usb-wlan work too. | 19:38 |
vonhalenbach | i have to search the dmesg for error messages. | 19:39 |
RicoADF | G'day guys | 19:41 |
vinnl | Hey RicoADF | 19:41 |
RicoADF | just formatted my sister's PC and put Xubuntu on it, finally talked her into letting me give Windows the flick (was quite easy since XP was screwing up royally) | 19:42 |
RicoADF | ive just downloaded the flash plugin which I want to install, whats the command again? (been awhile since ive needed to install a file not in the add/remove list lol) | 19:43 |
TheSheep | RicoADF: just install it with synaptics | 19:43 |
TheSheep | synaptic | 19:43 |
RicoADF | so just search for flashplayer-installer? | 19:44 |
vinnl | RicoADF, I believe flashplugin-nonfree | 19:44 |
TheSheep | flashplugin-nonfree | 19:44 |
RicoADF | ah there it is, thanks :), good thing about Linux is once u set ur machine up u dont need to format and setup again, bad thing is its easy to forget how u did it LOL | 19:45 |
vinnl | RicoADF, you might want to consider installing xubuntu-restricted-extras :) | 19:46 |
zoredache | RicoADF: make notes or make a backup of your system and you'll be able to figured out what you did | 19:47 |
RicoADF | thankyou, wilco :) | 19:48 |
vonhalenbach | cody-somerville: With the usb-printer it works. The internal cardreader is supported by xubuntu 8.04 | 20:15 |
vonhalenbach | I am happy now. | 20:15 |
cody-somerville | :) | 20:16 |
vonhalenbach | :) | 20:16 |
vinnl | \0/ | 20:16 |
TheSheep | \./ | 20:18 |
PHANT0Ma | hello, can anybody give your /boot dir from 8.04 ? | 21:17 |
TheSheep | PHANT0Ma: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/79534/ | 21:18 |
PHANT0Ma | TheSheep: can you upload grub dir to rapidshare or another place? | 21:20 |
TheSheep | I'd rather not, there are passwords in there | 21:21 |
TheSheep | I have custom config anwyays | 21:21 |
TheSheep | but you should be able to recreate it with grub-install | 21:22 |
PHANT0Ma | =( i need message, stage1 stage2 and fat_stage1_5 | 21:22 |
TheSheep | no message here, the rest I can uload | 21:22 |
PHANT0Ma | hmmm... | 21:23 |
PHANT0Ma | maybe default gfxmenu have another name | 21:24 |
TheSheep | PHANT0Ma: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/grub.tar.gz | 21:24 |
PHANT0Ma | TheSheep: thanks! | 21:26 |
Snoopotic | Hi. I just chose another window-style in the window-manager. and after the reboot the task panel is gone :/ now I have to shutdown/reboot by console :/ do oyu have any idea? | 21:31 |
vinnl | Snoopotic, try pressing Alt+F2 and running "xfce4-panel" | 21:32 |
Snoopotic | ah there it is. | 21:40 |
Snoopotic | why was it gone? | 21:41 |
vinnl | I believe it had something to do with RAM, but I'm not sure | 21:41 |
fourChan | attention rescue 6 and engine 12, a still alarm, respond to broad at potters for a shooting victim from the police | 21:52 |
fourChan | attention rescue 6 and engine 12, a still alarm, respond to broad at potters for a shooting victim from the police | 21:52 |
TGD | hi | 21:54 |
TheSheep | hello TGD | 21:55 |
TGD | i love ubuntu | 21:55 |
TGD | and xfce | 21:56 |
TGD | makes a good combo | 21:56 |
David-A | love is a strong word, I have issues with ubuntu and xubuntu, but i "like" them, xubuntu a little more | 21:56 |
TGD | wat issues | 21:58 |
Snoopotic | I tried to use it in 7.10 and wasnt surprised. now I am :D | 21:59 |
TGD | lol | 21:59 |
TGD | kde rules all ov em tho | 21:59 |
Snoopotic | 8.04 is better. esp of that network manager :D | 21:59 |
Snoopotic | I cant I use it on a celeron 450mhz with 128 mb ram :D | 22:00 |
TGD | ubuntu should include ndiswrapper | 22:00 |
TheSheep | kde confuses me -- why does each and every app need to have a menu for changing its colors and fonts? | 22:00 |
TGD | cuz | 22:00 |
TGD | its special | 22:01 |
TGD | lool | 22:02 |
TGD | i think gnome sux | 22:02 |
TheSheep | TGD: may I direct your attention to that awesome xubuntu-offtopic channel that gets underused? :) | 22:02 |
TGD | whats this 4 then | 22:03 |
TheSheep | !ot | 22:03 |
ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 22:03 |
TGD | ahh | 22:03 |
TheSheep | Welcome! :) | 22:03 |
TGD | i need help | 22:04 |
TGD | is there a ndiswrapper gui | 22:04 |
TheSheep | ndisgtk | 22:06 |
vonhalenbach | i wish there would be a gui for bluetooth. | 22:07 |
TGD | besides that | 22:07 |
TGD | ill make a bluetooth gui | 22:07 |
TheSheep | vonhalenbach: there are many, depends on what you do through bluetooth | 22:07 |
vonhalenbach | and for wlan to see all clients on the net. | 22:08 |
TGD | i cant install ndisgtk | 22:08 |
TheSheep | vonhalenbach: you mean like wifiradar or something? | 22:08 |
vonhalenbach | Is it possible to see in a gui all mobile phones in the bluetooth range? | 22:08 |
vonhalenbach | yeah. | 22:08 |
TGD | yep | 22:09 |
TGD | why not get windows | 22:09 |
TheSheep | vonhalenbach: yes, there are some gnome bt utils for that | 22:09 |
vonhalenbach | i hate windows. | 22:09 |
TGD | xp is ok | 22:09 |
vonhalenbach | i never tried xp | 22:10 |
TGD | try it | 22:10 |
vonhalenbach | no | 22:10 |
TheSheep | TGD: recommending windows is not really solving anything for xubuntu users, is it? | 22:10 |
TGD | y | 22:11 |
TGD | umm | 22:11 |
TGD | maby | 22:11 |
TGD | windows switched me | 22:11 |
TheSheep | vonhalenbach: try installing bluez-gnome | 22:11 |
vonhalenbach | okay. Thank you! | 22:11 |
TGD | is there a php chan | 22:12 |
TheSheep | vonhalenbach: then bluetooth-properties should list all devices in range | 22:12 |
vonhalenbach | cool! | 22:12 |
TGD | i need a bt adapter | 22:13 |
TGD | for ubuntu | 22:13 |
TGD | recomend me 1 plz | 22:14 |
TGD | england plz | 22:14 |
TheSheep | TGD: http://www.wiili.org/index.php/Compatible_Bluetooth_Devices | 22:15 |
TGD | will ndiswrapper install bt drivers? | 22:15 |
TheSheep | no idea | 22:16 |
TGD | it worked for my graphics card | 22:16 |
TGD | soo sory | 22:18 |
TGD | error | 22:18 |
TGD | hmm | 22:18 |
thinkmassive | in evolution the font of selected items is the same as the background color (of the selected item) until I click somewhere else... has anyone else noticed this? | 22:19 |
thinkmassive | actually it's white until I change focus, then it returns to black | 22:19 |
vinnl | thinkmassive, is this with Xubuntu's default theme? | 22:19 |
thinkmassive | no, is that a function of the theme? | 22:20 |
thinkmassive | it's fine in other app's as far as I've noticed, only evolution shows the bug | 22:20 |
TheSheep | thinkmassive: either that or evolution has the colors hardcoded | 22:20 |
TGD | webmin always works | 22:20 |
thinkmassive | now that you all mention it, I think my text highlight color is usually white... | 22:21 |
thinkmassive | it's just strange how evolution reverts it to black when I defocus the newly selected item, oh well | 22:22 |
TheSheep | thinkmassive: report a bug in evolution :) | 22:22 |
vinnl | Upstream I suppose | 22:23 |
TGD | ubottu has died | 22:27 |
ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about has died | 22:27 |
TGD | why shoulnt i use debian stuff on ubuntu | 22:32 |
TheSheep | TGD: because the packages might be incomatible in nasty and non-obvious ways, leading to brakage and data loss | 22:33 |
TGD | ok so | 22:33 |
TGD | keep the live cd | 22:34 |
TheSheep | data loss as in losing your own files | 22:34 |
TheSheep | or breaking them | 22:34 |
TGD | oh well | 22:35 |
TGD | im used to it | 22:35 |
TheSheep | do it at your own risk | 22:35 |
TheSheep | but don't recommend to others | 22:35 |
TGD | ok | 22:36 |
TGD | i only use ubuntu packagges anyway | 22:36 |
Snoopotic | heh lol | 22:40 |
Snoopotic | in 7.10 it couldnt get into hibernate. now in 8.04 it doesnt come back from hibernate ^^ lol | 22:40 |
TGD | whats better compile php myself ot apt-get? | 22:40 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: make sure you have enough swap space | 22:40 |
TheSheep | TGD: the latter | 22:41 |
TGD | huh | 22:41 |
Snoopotic | TheSheep ... enough? :D I have 128 MB RAM... and made a 256 MB swappartition. | 22:41 |
TGD | how much swap space i need | 22:41 |
Snoopotic | is it enough? :D my hdd is only 6GB :D | 22:42 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: well, you need at least as much *free* swap space when you are hibernating as you have ram | 22:42 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: so unless you normally use 128MB of swap, it's ok | 22:43 |
TGD | make a 2 gig swap space | 22:43 |
TheSheep | TGD: please | 22:43 |
TGD | please | 22:43 |
TGD | itl help | 22:43 |
TGD | alot | 22:43 |
vinnl | TGD, not if you hard drive is only 6GB | 22:44 |
TGD | lol | 22:44 |
David-A | my firefox 2 currently use 86MB ram and 235MB ram+swap. 256MB swap seems a little to little. firefox 3 is said to be better. | 22:44 |
TheSheep | David-A: you can also limit ff2 | 22:44 |
David-A | TheSheep: i have tried | 22:45 |
TGD | buy more rar or bigger hdd | 22:45 |
TheSheep | TGD: please | 22:46 |
TGD | please | 22:46 |
TGD | itl help | 22:46 |
TGD | or stripping the os might help | 22:47 |
TheSheep | TGD: can you stop giving these pointless advices, like trying windows xp, buying better hardware, etc.? | 22:48 |
TGD | but u need the know how | 22:48 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: any messages you get? anything in dmesg? | 22:48 |
Snoopotic | hmm lets see | 22:49 |
* charlie-tca thanks, TheSheep | 22:52 | |
Snoopotic | btw I set the boot-flag acpi=force :D | 22:52 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: if it works... | 22:54 |
* TheSheep tests his hibernation | 22:55 | |
Snoopotic | better than without ^^ | 22:55 |
Snoopotic | without it doesnt power off, ther I need to power off manually after "halt"-ing | 22:55 |
Snoopotic | whatever i dont really need hibernation :D | 22:56 |
Snoopotic | it might speed up the boot process of that "machine" but maybe it slows down after some reboots rom hibernation :D | 22:57 |
TheSheep | nope, doesn't work | 22:57 |
Snoopotic | ^^ | 22:58 |
Snoopotic | do you know if there is any client to do a remote-desktop session to a windows-computer just with its builtin remote desktop? is there a linux client that can handle windows remotedesktop? | 23:00 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: sure, for starters the one installed by default should handle it | 23:01 |
TheSheep | Snoopotic: there is aso command-line one called 'rdesktop' | 23:02 |
TheSheep | also | 23:02 |
Snoopotic | sure? hmm so you mean I just need to enter the correct port? hmm | 23:02 |
TheSheep | you might need to enable it on the windows side | 23:02 |
thinkmassive | Snoopotic: I use rdesktop all the time and it works great | 23:12 |
thinkmassive | remote desktop is usually disabled by default on XP and Vista though | 23:13 |
Snoopotic | haha nice. | 23:18 |
Snoopotic | yeah im on it now ^^ | 23:18 |
Snoopotic | its very fast. | 23:18 |
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