[00:00] <MementoMori> # means you are root
[00:00] <Babuto> yes i know ^^
[00:00] <MementoMori> ok
[00:00] <Babuto> i modified resolv.conf
[00:00] <Babuto> but there is always the problem
[00:00] <MementoMori> cat it here
[00:00] <MementoMori> it should be 2 lines
[00:00] <Babuto> yes
[00:00] <timlinux> Hi. Anyone know why the kde4 packages in kubuntu have no menu item icons in the classic menu? e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/timlinux/2672742440/sizes/l/
[00:00] <Babuto> i added them with kate
[00:01] <genii> MementoMori: echo "something" | sudo tee -a /filename     is recommended so not having to use root console, btw
[00:01] <Babuto> nameserver 208.67.222.222 and nameserver 208.67.220.220
[00:01] <MementoMori> genii: you r right but sudo su - is shorther :)
[00:02] <MementoMori> Babuto: paste in chan :
[00:02] <MementoMori> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:02] <MementoMori> do you have two different lines?
[00:02] <Babuto> yes
[00:02] <MementoMori> ok
[00:02] <Babuto> the two lines i said
[00:02] <Babuto> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[00:02] <Babuto> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[00:03] <MementoMori> try ping www.google.whatyouwant in a console
[00:03] <Babuto> it works
[00:03] <MementoMori> ok
[00:03] <MementoMori> try with firefox
[00:04] <Babuto> it doesn't work
[00:04] <MementoMori> and konqueror
[00:04] <Xavura> How do I set my keyboard layout to en-GB?
[00:04] <MementoMori> try with konqueror
[00:04] <Xavura> It is en-US for some reason
[00:04] <Babuto> it doesn't work neither
[00:04] <Babuto> and with lynx neither
[00:04] <PleXuS> hi all
[00:05] <Xavura> Anyone? I can't log into my account because the keyboard layout messes up my password
[00:05] <Babuto> with lynx : "HTTP request sent; waiting for response"
[00:05] <PleXuS> i got some problem with my mdadm raid 0 disks :s
[00:05] <Xavura> en-US moves all the symbols
[00:05] <MementoMori> try: telnet www.google.com 80
[00:05] <PleXuS> mdadm: no recogniseable superblock on /dev/sda
[00:05] <PleXuS> and they are ok in raid bios of my intel motherboard :s
[00:06] <Babuto> Connected to google.navigation.opendns.com
[00:06] <MementoMori> ????????
[00:07] <MementoMori> so you still have dns prob!
[00:07] <Babuto> dns prob ?
[00:07] <MementoMori> open http://www.opendns.com/ with firefox
[00:07] <mefistofele> I can't get pcf fonts to install
[00:08] <Babuto> it doesn't work :(
[00:08] <MementoMori> try: telnet www.opendns.com 80
[00:08] <Babuto> Connected to www.opendns.com
[00:09] <MementoMori> this is really strange!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:09] <MementoMori> you have no problem but the http protocol!
[00:09] <genii> MementoMori: I'm suspecting his modem/router
[00:09] <MementoMori> try open konversation and login here
[00:10] <Babuto> "Found your hostname" "No identd (auth) response"
[00:10] <MementoMori> genii: he can connect to http server using tcp/ip
[00:10] <MementoMori> Babuto: this is ok
[00:11] <MementoMori> Babuto: does it time out?
[00:11] <MementoMori> Babuto:  or are you Koordin?
[00:12] <Babuto> yes i am koordin
[00:12] <MementoMori> Babuto: I told you!
[00:12] <Babuto> but it's weird i typed /join #kubuntu
[00:12] <MementoMori> heheh
[00:12] <Babuto> but i can't see the chan
[00:12] <MementoMori> look for a #kubuntu tab
[00:13] <MementoMori> at the bottom
[00:13] <Babuto> there isn't !
[00:13] <Babuto> i know how to use konversation i've already used it, but now, there is no #kubuntu tab
[00:13] <MementoMori> anyway I dont care about this
[00:13] <Babuto> ^^
[00:13] <MementoMori> you are connected
[00:13] <MementoMori> so your tcp/ip stack works
[00:14] <MementoMori> now the question is: why you cant browse???
[00:14] <Babuto> it's good being connected, but it's better if i can use my connection ^^
[00:14] <MementoMori> Babuto: one step at time
[00:14] <MementoMori> :)
[00:14] <PleXuS> anyone can help me with mdadm raid problem? :)
[00:14] <MementoMori> Babuto: gimme a minute to serch info
[00:15] <Babuto> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=135010
[00:15] <Babuto> it seems to be a known problem for the Alice provider
[00:16] <Babuto> how can i have the real ip for my modem ?
[00:17] <dennister> hey channel aving a problem with a new installation ...specically scrollkeeper is holding everything back...won't install..."dpkg --configure -a" isn't working, neither is "apt-get -f install"
[00:18] <dennister> can someone help with with these broken packagaes, pls? in command line, x won't start because of this scrollkeeper
[00:18] <MementoMori> Babuto: ask your provider
[00:18] <genii> Babuto: Your current IP is 83.157.118.158
[00:18] <dennister> genii: hey there! :-)
[00:18] <genii> dennister: Last day of vacation
[00:18] <dennister> back from tweed, or still there?
[00:19] <genii> dennister: Been home a week now
[00:19] <Babutoo> sorry disconnected
[00:19] <dennister> genii: thought so...can u help me with this scrollkeeper issue? holding everything up
[00:20] <genii> dennister: Never dealt with scrollkeeper before. Do you have a pastebin of the error output?
[00:21] <dennister> genii: its dependency hell, actually...new installation, base system went in without a hitch...then tried installing ubuntu-desktop, and it always stops at Building database...This may take some time.
[00:22] <MementoMori> Babutoo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/konqueror-dont-connects-to-the-internet-need-help-647414/#post3182222
[00:22] <dennister> so no error message to pastebein
[00:23] <genii> dennister: Maybe let it run overnight
[00:23] <Babutoo> MementoMori ?
[00:23] <dennister> genii: when try the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" it still stops at the same message...just hangs.......can't let it run overnight, because it's a friends she's brought over for this installation"
[00:24] <Babutoo> i'll have to wait for my problem to solev automatically ? :D
[00:24] <Babutoo> solve*
[00:24] <MementoMori> Babutoo: open firefox
[00:24] <MementoMori> about:config
[00:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> hey, i just installed kubuntu
[00:24] <MementoMori> Babutoo: set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[00:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> what were the comands to get the codecs to get browsers to play youtube?
[00:25] <MementoMori> Babutoo: then try to surf the web
[00:25] <genii> dennister: No remedy but to let it finish, however long that takes
[00:26] <MementoMori> Babutoo: so?
[00:26] <Babutoo> it doesn't work :(
[00:26] <MementoMori> mmmmmmm
[00:26] <MementoMori> wait
[00:26] <dennister> genii: well i'm glad i've already burned a livecd for her :-)
[00:27] <MementoMori> edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases as root
[00:27]  * genii makes more coffee
[00:27] <MementoMori> find alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[00:27] <MementoMori> and change it in alias net-pf-10 off #ipv6.
[00:28] <MementoMori> then reboot
[00:28] <Babutoo> ok i'm rebooting
[00:28] <MementoMori> cross your fingers
[00:28] <Babutoo> :D
[00:29] <Babutoo> it will work
[00:29] <MementoMori> I think I have no more rabbit in my hat
[00:29] <Babutoo> there is a routine check of drives ...
[00:29] <MementoMori> genii: I like very sweet coffee
[00:29] <MementoMori> Babutoo: ok no prob
[00:30] <Babutoo> oh i can skip
[00:30] <MementoMori> you mounted 21 time or so your disk
[00:30]  * genii prepares MementoMori a large coffee with extra sugars
[00:30] <Babutoo> ?
[00:30] <MementoMori> Babutoo: nevermind
[00:30] <MementoMori> and keep them crossed
[00:31] <Babutoo> (oh i understood)
[00:31] <Babutoo> but it doesn't work ...
[00:32] <dennister> genii: installing scrollkeeper has never been a problem for me so far...and particularly not when the base system goes in without a hitch...any way I can unfreeze the dependency hell? how long should scrollkeeper take? after 30 minutes it's frozen, no?
[00:32] <Babutoo> i feel sorry
[00:32] <MementoMori> mmmmm
[00:32] <mefisto__> try changing gateway from  192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:32] <MementoMori> dont give up
[00:32] <MementoMori> what's in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:33] <Babutoo> interfaces has only : auto lo ; iface lo inet loopback
[00:33] <genii> dennister: Conceivably there is some tiny error in scrollkeeper package causing hiccup. But just speculation
[00:34] <MementoMori> ????
[00:34] <dennister> hey...i remember (sorta)...there's a cache somewhere i can delete, right?
[00:34] <dennister> apt cache?
[00:34] <Babutoo> i'm not giving up, but i have no idea what to do
[00:35] <MementoMori> Babutoo: do you see eth1 in ifconfig?
[00:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> what is the command for the codecs
[00:35] <genii> dennister: /var/cache/apt/archives          has all the install packages in it which can occasionally be cleaned out.
[00:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> to get youtube on the brwosers
[00:35] <dennister> don't know the path...right...
[00:35] <dennister> thx genii
[00:36] <MementoMori> Babutoo: ping
[00:36]  * MementoMori thinks Babutoo died
[00:36] <mefisto__> CostaRicanQuaker: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> mefisto__: thankyou
[00:38] <Babutoo> MementoMori
[00:38] <Babutoo> sorry
[00:38] <MementoMori> poor Babutoo.... he died after disabling ipv6
[00:38] <MementoMori> ah
[00:38] <MementoMori> ok
[00:38] <MementoMori> :)
[00:38] <Babutoo>  yes i can see eth1 in ifconfig
[00:38] <Babutoo> but
[00:38] <MementoMori> but?
[00:39] <Babutoo> sudo ifdown eth1 -> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[00:39] <MementoMori> Babutoo: no
[00:39] <MementoMori> try:
[00:39] <MementoMori> dhclient eth1
[00:39] <MementoMori> sudo dhclient eth1
[00:40] <MementoMori> and then try to ping your router
[00:40] <jorgia> Adept Updater keeps telling me that update linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic is available/upgradeable
[00:40] <Babutoo> always the problem
[00:40] <MementoMori> does it answer?
[00:40] <jorgia> can someone please tell me what this is...the update fails
[00:40] <Babutoo> ping to my router have always worked
[00:41] <MementoMori> ok
[00:41] <dennister> genii: ok, removed scrollkeeper from /var/cache/apt/archives...tried re-installing it, been waiting for database to be rebuilt now for 2 minutes...timing it
[00:41] <MementoMori> what's inside resolv.conf
[00:41] <dennister> any other place scrollkeeper could be lurking?
[00:42] <Babutoo> in resolv.conf i've entered 5 lines
[00:42] <MementoMori> why?
[00:42] <jorgia> Adept Updater keeps telling me that update linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic is available/upgradeable. Can someone please tell me what this is...the update fails
[00:43] <Babutoo> it was said on a topic
[00:43] <MementoMori> burn yhat topic
[00:43] <Babutoo> i entered 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220, 192.168.1.1, 127.0.0.1, 0.0.0.0
[00:43] <MementoMori> is 5 a magin number?
[00:43] <MementoMori> is 5 a magic number?
[00:43] <MementoMori> nooooooo
[00:44] <Babutoo> :D
[00:44] <MementoMori> remove the last two
[00:44] <MementoMori> before than now
[00:44] <Babutoo> done ^^
[00:44] <MementoMori> dont try this voodoo!
[00:44] <MementoMori> ok
[00:45] <MementoMori> now you have 3 lines starting with the nameserver word, right?
[00:45] <Babutoo> yes
[00:45] <MementoMori> try ping www.google.com
[00:45] <Ju|ian> hello
[00:46] <MementoMori> does it answer?
[00:46] <genii> !hi | Ju|ian
[00:46] <Babutoo> wait i have "perssion denied" when i try to save resolv.conf
[00:46] <Babutoo> with root access
[00:46] <Babutoo> permission*
[00:47] <MementoMori> because you are not root
[00:47] <MementoMori> do you know how to use vim?
[00:47] <Babutoo> i use nano
[00:47] <MementoMori> ok
[00:47] <Babutoo> sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
[00:47] <MementoMori> ok
[00:47] <Babutoo> and i still have permission denied
[00:47] <mefisto_> mounted ro ?
[00:47] <Babutoo> i'll reboot ...
[00:48] <MementoMori> Babutoo: because you broke the fsck
[00:48] <MementoMori> at boot tim
[00:48] <MementoMori> Babutoo: why are you trying to make me mad tonight?
[00:48] <Babutoo> sorry :(
[00:48] <MementoMori> lol
[00:49] <MementoMori> reboot
[00:49] <Babutoo> but i feel like you will success
[00:49] <MementoMori> I'll ahve another cigarette
[00:49] <MementoMori> see u here in 5 mins
[00:49] <Babutoo> time for the routine check ^^
[00:51] <jereme> I am able to get xrandr to switch me to extended desktop dual display if I run it from the command line, but if I bake the configuration into xorg.conf it doesn't work
[00:51] <jereme> I just get cloned desktop
[00:52] <jereme> anyone have experience with this?
[00:54] <Babutoo> MementoMori the problem was that i entered "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf", following the burning topic
[00:55] <MementoMori> Babutoo: burn it a second time
[00:56] <MementoMori> dont do voodoo you dont know!
[00:57] <MementoMori> Babutoo: I'm out of cigarettes so these are the very last tries
[00:57] <ubuntu_> whats up ppl
[00:58] <MementoMori> Babutoo: what's the output of:
[00:58] <MementoMori> grep net-pf-10  /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[00:58] <MementoMori> Babutoo: ping
[00:58] <kdavid> MementoMori: I think I figured it out
[00:58] <Babutoo> here ^^
[00:59] <MementoMori> kdavid: happy to hear this
[00:59] <kdavid> the problem that is not the solution
[00:59] <ubuntu_> how do i change my irc name
[00:59] <Babutoo> but wait i can't ping anymore
[00:59] <wingsnut90> never mind, i figured it out
[01:00] <kdavid> ubuntu or kubuntu accepts CF cards but it does not recognize sd high capacity ones
[01:00] <MementoMori> wingsnut90: we saw it
[01:00] <wingsnut90> lol
[01:00] <MementoMori> Babutoo: are u still there?
[01:00] <Babutoo> yes but i can't ping anymore
[01:01] <MementoMori> can you ping the router?
[01:01] <wingsnut90> im running a live cd, is there any way to save the settings and the apps i install somewhere and load the settings
[01:01] <wingsnut90> with out installing on the hard disk
[01:01] <Babutoo> yes but not google
[01:01] <MementoMori> Babutoo: ok
[01:01] <MementoMori> grep net-pf-10  /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:02] <MementoMori> do that and tell me the output
[01:02] <Babutoo> the output is : alias-net-pf-10 off #ipv6 (i have well followed what you told me, don't worry ^^)
[01:02] <MementoMori> ok
[01:02] <MementoMori> what's inside resolv.conf now?
[01:02] <Babutoo> "the" three lines
[01:02] <MementoMori> ok
[01:03] <MementoMori> what's the error when you ping www.google.com?
[01:03] <Babutoo> destination host unreachable
[01:04] <tony403> anyone know what the next kubuntu is going to have in it? is it kde 4 by default?
[01:04] <MementoMori> Babutoo: but can you still ping the router?
[01:04] <genii> wingsnut90: You need an ext2 formatted storage with volume name of casper-cow   then use f5 at boot of livecd to insert "persistent" as a load option. It will load or store settings to the ext2 formatted storage
[01:04] <Babutoo> yes i can
[01:05] <MementoMori> try telnet www.google.com 80
[01:05] <wingsnut90> ah, ok
[01:06] <Babutoo> it doesn't work anymore i'll try to reboot
[01:06] <MementoMori> no
[01:06] <MementoMori> wait
[01:06] <Babutoo> ok
[01:06] <MementoMori> try telnet 208.69.34.231 80
[01:06] <Babutoo> sudo: reboo: command not found ^^
[01:06] <[ifr0g]> what's the restricted driver installation command?
[01:06] <wingsnut90> thank you, one more question, i have a usb keyboard plugged in right now, because my ps2 keyboard decided to stop working all together,
[01:06] <wingsnut90> and it wont work at the boot menu
[01:07] <Babutoo> unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
[01:07] <MementoMori> try sudo dhclient eth1
[01:07] <wingsnut90> is there any way to fix it
[01:07] <genii> wingsnut90: Maybe get a usb-ps2 adapter to use the usb keyboard through the ps2 port
[01:08] <Babutoo> (rebooting)
[01:08] <MementoMori> ok
[01:08] <wingsnut90> that didnt work either, i tried that
[01:08] <wingsnut90> probably just a new keyboard?
[01:09] <Babutoo> ok ping name and telnet name 80 work after reboot
[01:10] <MementoMori> ok
[01:10] <genii> wingsnut90: See if bios has something like "legacy usb support" ... some do and need it on to use usb keyboards. Although if not working might be hard to hit DEL to get into bios.... etc... New kb might just be best option without extensive screwing around
[01:10] <MementoMori> what's inside resolv.conf?
[01:10] <Babutoo> one line : nameserver 102.168.1.1
[01:10] <Babutoo> 192*
[01:11] <MementoMori> change it with nano
[01:11] <Babutoo> (there is a comment : #modified by networkmanager)
[01:11] <Babutoo> i close networkmanager ?
[01:11] <MementoMori> Babutoo: no
[01:12] <MementoMori> dont worry about this now
[01:12] <MementoMori> Babutoo: first line:
[01:12] <MementoMori> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[01:12] <Babutoo> i add 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 ?
[01:12] <MementoMori> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[01:12] <MementoMori> yes add them
[01:13] <MementoMori> put 192.168.1.1 as the last line
[01:13] <MementoMori> and then try firefox and konqueror
[01:14] <[ifr0g]> what's the restricted driver installation command?
[01:14] <Babutoo> ping and telnet work ; not browsing
[01:14] <Babutoo> i think we'll have to give up
[01:15] <MementoMori> is network.dns.disableIPv6 set to true in firefox?
[01:15] <Babutoo> yes i just checked
[01:15] <MementoMori> Babutoo: I really dont know what else you can try
[01:16] <Babutoo> but i don't think the problem is coming from configuration in my computer
[01:16] <MementoMori> Babutoo: try posting into the forum
[01:16] <Babutoo> since my computer worked on others ethernet connections
[01:16] <MementoMori> Babutoo: I fear yes
[01:17] <Babutoo> i think the problem is coming from the configuration of my "Alicebox"
[01:17] <MementoMori> the olny think you should check is dns router conf
[01:17] <MementoMori> in italy alice sux
[01:17] <MementoMori> but works...
[01:17] <Babutoo> it works well on windows
[01:18] <MementoMori> anyway... i'm sorry but I go bed
[01:18] <Babutoo> no problem you helped me a lot
[01:18] <Babutoo> i'm very thankful
[01:18] <MementoMori> try posting in forum
[01:18] <Babutoo> yes i'll try
[01:18] <MementoMori> urw
[01:18] <Babutoo> thanks
[01:18] <MementoMori> bye bye
[01:20] <vipex> hey wich i take : ATI Radeon® HD 2400 PRO vs NVidia GeForce 8400M-G
[01:23] <genii> NVidia has my vote
[01:25] <sparr> how can i tell i my computer recognizes that there is a CD/DVD in the drive?
[01:29] <genii> sparr: usually command:          mount                by itself will report either iso9660 or udf filesystem of a cd in the drive mounted normally at either /media/cdrom  or sometimes just /cdrom
[01:29] <sparr> genii: the drive is not mounted
[01:30] <genii> sparr: Are you using KDE or Gnome? Since you are double-posting this issue to both #ubuntu and here
[01:30] <sparr> i am currently running both
[01:30] <sparr> KDE on :0 and Gnome on :1
[01:31] <genii> OK fair enough :)
[01:31] <sparr> so if any utilities of either would be helpful, shoot
[01:32] <genii> sparr: Likely there is no /etc/fstab entry to automount a cdrom or dvd when it finds one there.
[01:32] <sparr> i have an entry for /dev/hdb mounted as /media/cdrom0
[01:33] <genii> sparr: Please copy the 1 line from /etc/fstab regarding it
[01:33] <genii> sparr: Copy to here for examination, that is
[01:34] <sparr> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:34] <sparr> data CDs automount properly, and pop up the appropriate dialogs in KDE and gnome
[01:34] <genii> sparr: The "noauto" there might be the problem
[01:34] <sparr> noauto just means not to mount at boot and "mount -a" time
[01:35] <genii> sparr: So cds are working properly but not a specific dvd you have?
[01:38] <genii> I guess he's occupied arguing there in #ubuntu
[01:39] <sparr> not for long, i usually get banned a few minutes after asking there
[01:39] <sparr> i ask, they respond with random factoid from the bot, i complain that the factoid had nothing to do with my question, they ban me
[01:39] <sparr> it's a fun cycle
[01:40] <genii> sparr: Yup. But I gather it's a dvd which is not mounting or so?
[01:40] <sparr> it wont recognize data DVDs either
[01:40] <sparr> audio and data CDs, good
[01:41] <sparr> DVDs, no good
[01:41] <sparr> it recently stopped being able to burn DVDs as well.  blank DVDs are recognized by the computer, but the burn fails
[01:41] <sparr> im hoping its a software issue, but it could easily be a hardware problem
[01:42] <genii> Hmm. Data dvds should be using just UDF2 unless they are the oddball type which Vista makes on backups (UDF2.5 or so).
[01:42] <genii> sparr: Testing the drive in another box might be a good idea to eliminate hardware fail of the dvd laser
[01:42] <sparr> dont have another box handy :(
[01:43] <sparr> and the data DVDs are UDF2 and/or ISO
[01:43] <genii> sparr: Does it let you manually mount for instance a data dvd using udf as fs type?
[01:44] <sparr> the /dev/hdb device doesnt exist when i insert a DVD
[01:44] <genii> Add/remove/switch around drives lately?
[01:44] <sparr> yes
[01:44] <genii> eg: hdb is now some other designation
[01:44] <sparr> unplugged some hard drives
[01:45] <sparr> nah, the drive is still hdb
[01:45] <sparr> the device shows up when i put in a CD
[01:46] <genii> Conceivably some master/slave/cable select weirdness depending on the end or middle of ribon (if IDE)
[01:47] <genii> sparr: I'm suspecting hardware issue
[01:49] <bradford> anyow that can help me get ubuntu to recoginize my wireless card on a dell
[01:50] <bradford> been trying for 2 weeks
[01:52] <bradford> anyone?
[01:52] <bradford> i am very new to ubuntu and am getting frustrated
[01:53] <genii> bradford: What make and model of Dell please
[01:54] <bradford> thanks it is a vostro 1500
[01:54] <bradford> with the dell wireless card
[01:54] <bradford> booting to windows for modle
[01:56] <bradford> modle number is pp2l on back
[01:56] <bradford> sorry pp22l
[01:57] <genii> bradford: Likely it has an Intel 1395 but to make sure please report result of: lspci | grep Ethernet           in Konsole
[01:58] <bradford> modem is dell wireless 1395 WLAND mini-card
[02:00] <bradford> http://vladgh.com/2008/05/31/dell-wireless-1395-card-and-ubuntu-hardy-heron/ i tired this but still will not regester
[02:00] <bradford> will not see at all
[02:01] <bradford> acutally i could not get the driver in the floder it ask for even with su
[02:01] <bradford> are you still there genii?
[02:02] <genii> bradford: sudo mkdir /lib/firmware/i1395              then copy the .ini and .sys file from windows driver cd or partition to there. Then issue: sudo ndiswrapper -i /lib/firmware/i1395/inf-filename
[02:03] <bradford> thanks so much trying now
[02:08] <dennister> ok...finally got scrollkeeper fixed, all other installed packages supposedly setup and configured, anyway
[02:08] <dennister> new problem: login screen...won't accept any typing or mouse actions...can't enter user name, let alone password
[02:09] <genii> dennister: Sounds like a USB keyboard and mouse issue
[02:09] <dennister> usb mouse, anyway...regular keyboard
[02:10] <genii> dennister: I'd try kernel option of     usb-handoff        helps with this sometimes
[02:12] <dennister> well i'm in recovery console at moment; will try to startx as root (I know: bad, but just for a sec)...have just inserted ps2 mouse instead of usb
[02:12] <genii> dennister: Instead of starting X from root use instead: telinit 2
[02:13] <genii> dennister: Which should make it go to usual runlevels and load up the login manager
[02:14] <[ifr0g]> Whats the restricted driver installer command?
[02:16] <XenThraL> Hi I`m having trouble getting my onboard intel G31 express card working
[02:17] <XenThraL> apparently it used to work fine with 7.10 but not 8.04
[02:17] <XenThraL> can anyone lend me a hand?
[02:18] <dennister> genii: i'm trying it now...had to cold boot again...:(
[02:18] <[ifr0g]> omg, 256 users and no one knows about jockey-kde :(
[02:19] <genii> [ifr0g]: You mean to install the package of for instance kubuntu-restricted-extras or linux-restricted-modules-generic      or to run the restricted-manager application?
[02:19] <genii> dennister: OK seeya soon hopefully
[02:20] <dennister> genii: u leaving?
[02:20] <dennister> i tried telinit 2...usb mouse was working till the second gdm login finished, then froze
[02:22] <dennister> keyboard also nonresponsive
[02:22] <genii> dennister: So kde or so loaded then they became again dead?
[02:22] <dennister> yep, at gdm login screen
[02:23] <dennister> that was with usb mouse, have unplugged, inserted ps2 mouse instead of usb...will see if boots up
[02:24] <dennister> i always use usb mice on my main computer...never seen this prob before
[02:26] <genii> dennister: Some onboard usb controllers which also control the ps2 ports need the:     usb-handoff      kernel option at boot as I said earlier. Also in this specific case it may be X knew of the previous mouse which was usb and so the ps2 one didn't work since the default pointing device likely the usb one inthe xorg.conf or so
[02:29] <dennister> genii: yes, it's gotta be the particular usb controller of this compaq machine...so i should probably edit grub / menu.list to add the "usb-handoff" as an option, right?
[02:30] <dennister> but edit xorg.conf first, using recovery mode, to change mouse from usb to ps2?
[02:30] <bradford> genii i found all drivers and system made the dir but don't have permission to copy to the floder i told you i was new how do i get the files into the lib floder?
[02:32] <[ifr0g]> genii, restricted-manager
[02:33] <[ifr0g]> genii, anyways, whats the panel called in kde4? what app is it?
[02:33] <genii> dennister: Yes, I'd try that
[02:34] <genii> [ifr0g]: I'm pretty sure kicker-kde4 or something similar
[02:34] <genii> bradford: Where are the files you need to copy over right now? What directory for instance
[02:35] <bradford> i copied all from windows into floder called wland trying to get into that lib folder
[02:36] <bradford> put them to desktop
[02:37] <[ifr0g]> genii, nope.
[02:38] <dennister> genii: well i'd love to try it, but now i can't get pc to get past compaq splash into grub...not with usb mouse, not with ps2 mouse, not with no mouse ( pretty sure I have it configured to halt on no error except keyboard) but i could be confusing this system of judy's with the ones i usually do)
[02:39] <genii> bradford: OK. So make now a folder on desktop called "i3945"            and put those files in there. Then in Konsole:    sudo cp ~/Desktop/i3945/* /lib/firmware/i3945                that should copy them over. Then you need to do the: sudo ndiswrapper -i /lib/firmware/i3945/infname.inf        where infname is the name of te .inf file
[02:40] <genii> [ifr0g]: They'll know the name for sure in #kubuntu-kde4 channel
[02:40] <genii> dennister: I hate compaqs
[02:41] <genii> AFK doorbell
[02:41] <dennister> well, they're not my fav, either...down with proprietary hardware!
[02:42] <[ifr0g]> genii, oh, there was a channel. Tx.
[02:46] <bradford> genii i don't have the ndiswrapper and cannot get cause i cannot get oline any other way to install?
[02:48] <bradford> it cannot find package
[02:53] <UberTaco> 'ello folks
[02:53] <UberTaco> I've got a weird problem;
[02:54] <UberTaco> For some reason, I can create a secondary panel in KDE 3.5, but I can't adjust its size/length
[02:54] <dennister> genii: i'm going to let this thing cool down, then try to get into the bios...cause now I'm not even getting the compaq splash...absolutely nothing on the monitor...will check the video card when I've finished my dinner...
[02:56] <harolddong> can someone explain kopete metacontacts to me?
[02:56] <genii> bradford: Transfer the files: ndiswrapper-common_1.52-1ubuntu1_all.deb and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.52-1ubuntu1_i386.deb from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/   onto the box and use sudo -dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.52-1ubuntu1_i386.deb     and sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common_1.52-1ubuntu1_all.deb      to install them
[02:57] <genii> My pizza got here guys so I'm going to be eating for a bit :)
[02:57] <harolddong> if I click "change metacontact" on a contact I can only add one other contact in kopete-kde4.  If I try t add another one it just repalces the one I already added.  is 2 accounts per metacontact the limit or something?
[02:59] <ken> I was wondering if someone could help me figure out something that I could use as a right click on a Mac.  Running Ubuntu on my MacBook pro
[03:00] <lampe> hello
[03:00] <ken> hello
[03:01] <ken> how goes?
[03:01] <lampe> good and by you
[03:01] <lampe> ?
[03:01] <ken> Doing alright
[03:01] <ken> long day
[03:02] <lampe> ;)
[03:02] <ken> brb, going to make rice :
[03:02] <ken> :)
[03:02] <lampe> :)
[03:05] <UberTaco> so,
[03:05] <UberTaco> KDE doesn't seem to allow configuration of secondary panels.
[03:06] <lampe> using gnome ;)
[03:07] <UberTaco> Oh, so should I jump over to #ubuntu for KDE help?
[03:07] <UberTaco> :P
[03:09] <smarty> Hi guys -- I was having a bit of an issue with installing flash player 9... I did it through the konsole and it says it installed, but to no avail when I try to use something 'flash' it doesnt work. Also, when I try to use FF to install the flash plugin, it redirects me to adobe's download site for flash (where i downloaded the original files that i used in the cui installation) any ideas?
[03:09] <lampe> :P
[03:10] <smarty> anyone?
[03:12] <ixenakis> Hello everyone :-)
[03:12] <smarty> please some's gotta know
[03:13] <lampe> hey ixenakis
[03:13] <ken> back
[03:14] <lampe> sry smarty but i installed it and it works with firefox
[03:14] <smarty> so no idea what's the issue?
[03:15] <lampe> do you use 8,04 ?
[03:15] <smarty> yep
[03:15] <smarty> kde4 as well
[03:15] <lampe> hmm
[03:15] <lampe> this dont mater
[03:15] <lampe> firefox will work with gnome like on kde
[03:16] <ken> was wondering if anyone has a fix for right clicking on a mac using Ubuntu?? :(
[03:16] <lampe> ???
[03:16] <lampe> smarty: Macromedia Flash plugin << is this installed ?
[03:16] <smarty> i'm pretty sure i installed that
[03:17] <smarty> (via cui)
[03:17] <smarty> FF doesnt let me
[03:17] <lampe> hmmm
[03:17] <ken> cant seem to figure out how to right click using Ubuntu on my macbook pro
[03:18] <lampe> first question why do you use on a mac book pro a linux ? ^
[03:18] <smarty> lol yea
[03:18] <smarty> i was thinking the same thing
[03:19] <smarty> you'lll need an external mouse
[03:19] <smarty> USB
[03:19] <ken> Cause I want to learn more about Linux
[03:19] <lampe> hmm
[03:19] <ken> and I dont want to carry around a 2nd system
[03:19] <lampe> extra mouse i think
[03:19] <ken> =)
[03:19] <smarty> ken : external mouse will do the trick
[03:19] <lampe> hehe my gnome look like a osx :D
[03:19] <smarty> :)
[03:19] <ken> lol
[03:20] <lampe> smarty: klick an programms and than on add/del ... and than search for flash
[03:20] <ken> Theres no trigger I can use to make it like control click on osx?
[03:20] <lampe> if it is ticket than und tickit and reinstall it
[03:21] <smarty> k i'll try
[03:21] <lampe> maybe there is a trick but i dont know this trick ken ^
[03:21] <ken> aww okies, thanks!
[03:21] <ken> smarty, are you restarting after the install?
[03:21] <smarty> yep
[03:22] <lampe> dot need to
[03:22] <lampe> its not windows :D
[03:22] <smarty> i normally just logout
[03:22] <smarty> but i tried restarting also
[03:22] <smarty> no avail
[03:22] <lampe> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453 <<< ken maybe this will help ?
[03:22] <lampe> ken:
[03:22] <lampe> - Touchapd : if you want multitouch support (two fingers scrolling, right click, ..)
[03:22] <lampe> you can install driver from http://web.comhem.se/rydberg/Bits/ :
[03:23] <smarty> oh wow thats cool
[03:23] <ken> ehh, dont have the Penryn  system though :-\
[03:23] <ken> I have the old Core Duo
[03:24] <smarty> lol
[03:24] <lampe> hmmm
[03:24] <smarty> troubles on troubles P
[03:24] <ken> xD
[03:24] <smarty> :P
[03:24] <lampe> maybe the touch pad is the same try it ^
[03:24] <ken> its not :(
[03:24] <lampe> extra mouse :D
[03:24] <ken> Penryn uses the iphone tech to do all those weird things like expand and stuff
[03:24] <Bigcheese> ya, so I totally fed up my KDE4 box (I use it to see when it's safe to switch, and apparently it's not yet :P). Got any apt magic to "restore" (nothing on there I need to save) it to a working state?
[03:25] <Bigcheese> or would a reinstall be easier?
[03:25] <lampe> ?
[03:25] <genii> ken: I think f12 is equivelent of rightclick
[03:25] <lampe> o0
[03:26] <lampe> 0o
[03:26] <ken> HAHA sucess!!!
[03:26] <ken> thanks genii
[03:26] <ken> =D
[03:26] <genii> ken: You're welcome
[03:27] <lampe> ^
[03:27] <ken> MUAHAHAHA!!!
[03:27] <smarty> Adobe Flash Player 9 will be installed in the following directory:
[03:27] <smarty> Browser installation directory = /usr/lib/firefox
[03:27] <smarty> Proceed with the installation? (y/n/q): y
[03:27] <smarty> Installation complete.
[03:27] <smarty> and it still doesnt work :(
[03:28] <ken> are you downloading directly from adobe?
[03:28] <smarty> the file -- yes
[03:28] <smarty> then, extracting via konsole
[03:28] <ken> hmmm
[03:29] <lampe> hmm
[03:29] <genii> smarty: Why don't you just   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree        ?
[03:29] <lampe> gennii i want to write that :D
[03:29] <smarty> hmmm
[03:30] <ken> crap, taco time
[03:30] <lampe> can some one speak german here ?
[03:30] <smarty> genii - im gonna have to say that i love you
[03:30] <lampe> ^
[03:30] <smarty> thank you very much
[03:30] <smarty> that worked
[03:30] <ken> hehe
[03:30] <ken> =D
[03:30] <ken> byes everyone!
[03:30] <smarty> bye
[03:30] <lampe> bye
[03:30] <lampe> good night
[03:30] <lampe> good figt
[03:30] <ken> thanks for the help genii
[03:31] <genii> Bigcheese: I would remove or rename ~/.kde4
[03:31] <ken> g'night
[03:31] <genii> ken: np, nite
[03:31] <genii> smarty: Glad to help
[03:31] <lampe> some one know a good mp3 tagging tool for linux?
[03:32] <ubuntu_> hello all! I think i screwed up X, all i get is a blinking cursor... i think i messed up display settings
[03:33] <lampe> <<<<restart
[03:33] <genii> ubuntu_: Boot to recovery kernel. Then issue:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg               to set up display settings again. Then  after that:  telinit 2            to make it continue normally
[03:34] <ubuntu_> what is telinit? genii
[03:35] <lampe> back
[03:37] <ubuntu_> im gonna give it a try thanks genii
[03:38] <genii> ubuntu_: telinit  is a command which tells the computer to go to a certain run level. So on ubuntu run levels 2,3,4 and 5 are for multiuser which can run X and so on. Runlevel 0 is halt and runlevel 6 is reboot
[03:38] <genii> Runlevel 1 is what the system goes to in recovery kernel so telinit 2 is needed to change it
[03:50] <Level15> hi. I have sound issues with Unreal Tournament (original version, 1999). Sound is chppy and slow, makes the whole thing unplayable. Have googled and found some suggestions, none of which worked. Has anyone got it working?
[03:56] <ahmos> hi where is the splashscreens folder?
[03:57] <smarty> What are you running? KDE3 or 4?
[03:57] <ahmos> 3
[03:57] <smarty> Kmenu>System>Appearance (i think)
[03:58] <smarty> Oh, folder
[03:58] <smarty> Never mind
[03:58] <ahmos> no.. i want the directoty where themes r stored
[03:59] <ahmos> so do u know smarty
[04:00] <genii> ahmos: The boot splashes, you mean?
[04:02] <ahmos> yes
[04:04] <genii> ahmos: /usr/lib/usplash       But since those themes are compiled from.so files not likely to do you much good
[04:04] <Jucato> !usplash
[04:04] <ahmos> ok thank u
[04:15] <khaije1> anyone know if what kernel the next ubuntu will ship?
[04:15] <khaije1> specifically i'm wondering about the version of kvm that will be included
[04:16] <ubuntu_> i tried to reconfigure my xserver-xorg, with no better results.. i have a video card that has a vga and an svideo out the svideo gets a signal but it unledgable? i used envy to get the nvidia driver, do i need to remove the driver and put the generic one back
[04:23] <bazhang> khaije1, questions about that should be addressed in #ubuntu+1
[04:24] <dennister> genii: u still awake?
[04:25] <dennister> guess not...oh well, he was dead-on in terms of diagnozing the problem again...'night all
[04:26] <genii> denn
[04:26] <genii> Bah.
[04:27]  * genii fortifies himself with more caffeine and tries to stay awak
[04:32] <Jucato> genii: tries to stay *awak* <--- fail!
[04:32] <genii> heh
[04:32] <genii> Jucato: Smartass
[04:33] <genii> Jucato: I've been pretty busy here today, seemed no one else was around for a while
[04:33] <Jucato> I was. but since you were around :)
[04:34]  * genii needs to get around to applying for membership sometime so he can hide out
[04:35] <genii> I dunno if i can do the 5-a-day however
[04:39] <ubuntu_> genii i tried to reconfigure my xserver-xorg, with no better results.. i have a video card that has a vga and an svideo out the svideo gets a signal but it unledgable? i used envy to get the nvidia driver, do i need to remove the driver and put the generic one back
[04:41] <cyberponix> Amarok works with most mp3 players however sony walkmans are not picked up does anyone know why?
[04:41] <genii> ubuntu_: What driver name did you choose when you did the reconfigure of the xserver?
[04:42] <genii> cyberponix: Perhaps because not much computer data is stored on their cassette tapes
[04:43] <ubuntu_> genii: im not sure, where would i have put it
[04:43] <anom01y> what is the package to install java for firefox ?
[04:44] <mr---t-> !java
[04:44] <cyberponix> genii:  the mp3 player not the old school walkmans
[04:45] <genii> ubuntu_: When you issued the command of:      sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                it would have asked quite a few questions like what keyboard, etc. At that point one at least one of the questions would have been about the video card make or driver, to which when unsure, a person puts "vesa"
[04:46] <ubuntu_> yes its vesa
[04:46] <anom01y> I already install sun-java6-jre, but firefox java doesnt work
[04:47] <genii> anom01y: Try sun-java6-plugin
[04:49] <ubuntu_> genii: i was soposed to type all that after pressing  ctrl,alt,f1 and logging in , right?
[04:50] <genii> cyberponix: Some mp3 players need switching to something called MSC mode before they recognise on the USB bus
[04:51] <genii> ubuntu_: No, I had told you to boot up to single user mode (recovery kernel) and then issue:    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg            and then: telinit 2                 At which poinjt we got into a discussion about runlevels
[04:54] <ubuntu_> genii: i tried that and i got an error about -r and -e conflickts, maybe i had a space.  But i missed to lecture on run levels, sounds interensting
[04:55] <ubuntu_> im gonna log off and try it again...... thnx Again genii
[04:57] <genii> dennister: To answer your previous question I'm alive but under-caffeinated
[04:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone help me, i want ot download swiftweael or gnu's icecat
[04:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> but it's not in the repos
[05:05] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: icecat is just firefox with open-source artwork so it conforms to debian standards. We already have firefox in all *buntus since we don't need to conform to Debians policy.
[05:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> genii: how do i get icecat though? someone told me to download some tar.gz file but i dont know where
[05:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> its not in the repos
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[05:07] <dennister> genii: i feel like sighing too
[05:08] <dennister> you must be right about the usb-keyboard problem...there's nothing else that explains this wierd behaviour
[05:09] <dennister> problem is: i can get as far as checking xorg.conf does have ps2 mouse listed (not usb) and then entire console freezes (this is with ps2 mouse attached)
[05:09] <genii> dennister: Those compaq and dell boxes sometimes get all weird for no apparent reason too
[05:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> genii: which should i click?
[05:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> http://gnuzilla.gnu.org/download/
[05:10] <dennister> tell me about it...real issue is that I can't find in the bios the option to continue through all errors but keybaord...lots of time i don't even get the compaq splash, never mind grub...just black screen
[05:10] <f3rr311> hey
[05:11] <f3rr311> has anyone had a problem with kde logout/shutdown?
[05:11] <flaccid> sure many times f3rr311
[05:11] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: Since you're insisting on installing software not packaged with Ubuntu for no apparent reason (since forefox supplied with Ubuntu is superior to icecat) I can't really say "click on this one" or "click on that one" to you, in good faith
[05:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> but what about richard stallman?
[05:12] <dennister> whenever i get black screen at try-to-bootup, or in console during recovery mode....I have to unplug the whole box for quite awhile....just shutting off with power button doesn't help, as the standby buttons arre still flashing
[05:13] <f3rr311> my issue is if i logout or shut down it won't go ne were screen goes black
[05:13] <genii> CostaRicanQuaker: Whichever one you choose there, you're going to have to compile it. So don't ask me about doing that
[05:13] <f3rr311> using kde menu and it wont save app settings
[05:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> !compile
[05:14] <genii> dennister: Sounds like the machine has some overheating or other issue goin on
[05:15] <f3rr311> my issue has somthing to do with ati prop drivers i think
[05:16] <dthacker> f3rr311: have you tailed the messages log during shutdown to see if something interesting is being written to it?
[05:16] <genii> Jucato: Relaxing over there or somethin? ;)
[05:16] <genii> dthacker: Thanks, was feelin a bit alone
[05:17] <f3rr311> dthhacker: what log sould i look in?
[05:17] <dthacker> f3rr311: start with /var/log/messages
[05:17] <dennister> yeah...it's gotta be that...now it's even freezing at the grub stage, while I'm trying to edit the grub line
[05:19] <dennister> ok...this could be a really stupid question, but: other drive (winblows, of course) has a trojan horse, which is one reason why i'm trying to dual-boot this machine...i've told the owner a trojan affecting a winblows drive would not jump and affect a brand new drive with linux on it
[05:19] <dennister> am I correct, or wrong?
[05:20] <davidm> dennister: Windows viruses don't affect linux
[05:20] <dthacker> dennister: correct
[05:20] <dennister> that's what i thought...but a trojan is not a virus, either
[05:20] <genii> dennister: An MBR type virus can affect any OS, because its not dependant on one
[05:20] <dennister> it's been so long stince i dealt with winblows malware i'm forgetting :)
[05:21] <davidm> dennister: Do you know what Trojan it was?
[05:21] <dennister> no i don't...i will try to identify and research it tomorrow
[05:21] <f3rr311> is there a way to make kubuntu load like you can with fedora that allows you to watch the bootup prossess
[05:22] <dennister> I simply told her, "I don't support winblows for free  because i don't think it's in anyone's best interest to enable them" :P
[05:22] <dthacker> I think F8 will remove the spash screen
[05:22] <dthacker> and let you see the gory details
[05:22] <dennister> Linux, otoh, i support for free, heheheh
[05:22] <genii> f3rr311: Remove the parts   quiet and  splash  from the end of the kernel loading line to see all the text
[05:23] <davidm> dennister: To answer your question, the only way the trojan could affect Linux was if it tampered with the boot sector. And most modern trojans/viruses/malware don't do that
[05:23] <dthacker> afk, getting more coffee
[05:23] <dennister> and the mbr, as well as kubuntu, are on totally different physical drive...i just installed the drive today, for linux, so I was correct
[05:23] <f3rr311> -f861b685dfb3 ro quiet splash
[05:24] <f3rr311> leave ro
[05:24] <genii> f3rr311: Yup
[05:24] <f3rr311> ok
[05:25] <f3rr311> and the work quiet on the next line remove that?
[05:25] <dennister> ok, unplugged entire machine, will let it cool and then take the heatsink off to check the thermal grease
[05:25] <genii> f3rr311: Just the one on the kernel load line should be needed for removal
[05:26] <genii> dennister: Does it seem toasty when you check exhaust fans?
[05:28] <dennister> no, not really...it doesn't even have time to get hot before it freezes, in the compaq flash, the bios, grub, or soon in console...if it gets that far
[05:28] <dennister> oops...compaq splash
[05:29] <genii> dennister: Did you do the memtest off the cdrom on it?
[05:29] <dennister> although earlier this afternoon it was getting quite the workout when I was installing linux...these freezings didn't start until i got kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop fully installed...after the scrollkeeper problem was finally resolved and installed
[05:30] <dennister> no, haven't done the memtest
[05:30] <f3rr311> yall ever seen this AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23'
[05:30] <flaccid> f3rr311: i get that all the time. seems normal with ati and maybe other drivers
[05:31] <genii> dennister: You have exact model of that thing?
[05:31] <flaccid> f3rr311: and the screen goes black thing is an existing bug which is most annoying. they can't find a way to fix yet
[05:32] <f3rr311> ahhhhh
[05:32] <f3rr311> lol
[05:32] <f3rr311> it will shut down if i use the power button on case
[05:32] <sch> ....
[05:33] <f3rr311> also i have the 9800 xt how do i enable the overdrive as ati called it
[05:33] <dennister> genii: yes, its the EN...hold on, i did have it written down
[05:34] <dthacker> !ati
[05:34] <flaccid> f3rr311: same. i have a 9600. i have hard crash many times a day
[05:35] <f3rr311> no i have driver lol im tring to get the ov er cloced states that it has
[05:35] <f3rr311> POWERplay version 3.  4 power states available:
[05:35] <flaccid> f3rr311: i've never heard of that sorry
[05:35] <dennister> genii: ENM P550/S9...although serian number will tell u more
[05:36] <dennister> 6952 cr24 K210
[05:37] <dennister> by chance i'd been given one just like it, and was inventorying it a couple of days before Judy asked me to help her with hers
[05:37] <genii> dennister: Dagmn. 4 google results and none enlightenin
[05:38] <dennister> genii: yeah...which is why I'm here, heheheh...did quite a bit of research on the model a few days ago, trying to find specs and manuals...which i did find, too
[05:39] <dennister> this freezing up nonsense is very new, and i'm sure manuals wouldn't be addressing that, lol
[05:40] <dennister> so now that  come to think about it, although it does seem like there's an overheating problem, that can't be it because it's not getting enough uptime to actually get hot...
[05:41] <padi_> hello all,newbie here
[05:41] <dennister> and cpu overheating (hence checking thermal grease) would shut a pc down completely, immediately, and unexpectedly...not freeze it
[05:41]  * dthacker recommends the memtest
[05:42] <dthacker> !hello | padi_
[05:42] <dennister> dthacker...think ur right...will go out, have a cig, come back and turn it on, for running overnight
[05:42] <padi_> thanks, I'm new to linux too
[05:42] <se7en> padi as in Professional Association of Diving Instructors :)
[05:42] <padi_> er,no, it's the Welsh version of Paddy!
[05:43] <se7en> :)
[05:43] <padi_> but I get a lot of references to diving though.... I wonder why?
[05:45] <genii> Well it's 12:45am and I'm at work later this morning, so see you all later
[05:46] <genii> dennister: I'll be on from work in about 8-9 hours
[05:49] <dennister> missed him
[05:50] <dennister> dthacker: running memtest now,
[05:51] <dthacker> have fun!
[05:51] <dennister> shoot...it's even freezing up on memtest...even esc (reboot)'s not working
[05:53] <dennister> exhaust fan is still cool
[05:55] <dennister> could a faulty first stick of memory cause memtest to freeze machine?
[05:55] <flaccid> probably
[05:59] <ahmos> !compiz-fusion
[06:07] <nardvark> anyone able to help a noob with nvidia and screen driver problem
[06:07] <flaccid> !ask | nardvark
[06:07] <dr_Willis> depends on the exact problem  i imagine,
[06:08] <dr_Willis> You may also want to state youf video card/chipset, and what you have done to install the nvidia drivers so far.
[06:09] <nardvark> i have a evga nvidia 7950gt ive removed all nvidia stuff and installed the most up todate driver off the website
[06:09] <dr_Willis> so why did you decide to not use the nvidia drivers in the repository?
[06:10] <nardvark> basically everytime i reboot x i get a balckscreen of death
[06:10] <dr_Willis> and did you use the 'envyng' tool to install the latest?  or just downloaded the things and are trying to install them manually?
[06:10] <nardvark> ive tryed the restricted drivers i get a black screen ive tryed envy i get a blackscreen
[06:10] <dennister> k, gonna go on other machine...at least winblows is loading...not freezing anyway...will try to find out about this trojan
[06:11] <nardvark> ive been at this for the last 2 weeks and thought maybe someone here could help me
[06:12] <flaccid> nardvark: check the log
[06:12] <dr_Willis> well booting to the console. and trying 'startx' and seeing what sort of error messages it spits out would be handy.
[06:12] <dr_Willis> thats one way to see them. I forget where else the logs are at when started from kdm/gdm
[06:12] <flaccid> just remember to stop kdm first before doing startx
[06:30] <Squall> hola
[06:30] <Agent_bob> say
[06:30] <Squall> hay aguien?
[06:31] <Agent_bob> !pt
[06:31] <Agent_bob> !es
[06:35] <Agent_bob> ¡ !
[06:37] <ahmos> hi how i can delay the start up of compiz while booting
[06:39] <Agent_bob> !compiz | actually i don't know so i'll show you the bot.
[06:43]  * Agent_bob slips a firecracker under ubottu 's shoe and lights it.
[06:44] <Agent_bob> !lag
[06:45] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:50] <Agent_bob> who knows how to clear the scroll back buffer in bx ?
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> can someone help me download kazehakase? i cant get it from the repos
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> i need more than firefox and konqueror
[06:57] <flaccid> why can't you get it?
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> its a long story, konqueror doesnt open homtail and firefox is for my mom
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> i tried sudo aptitude install Kazehakaze-browser
[06:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> didnt work
[06:58] <flaccid> !info | CostaRicanQuaker wrong package name
[06:58] <flaccid> !info kazehakase | CostaRicanQuaker wrong package name
[06:58] <flaccid> Opera is also a good choice
[07:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: what's the dif between swiftweasel and firefox?
[07:00] <flaccid> i've never heard of swiftweasel
[07:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> icecat and firefox?
[07:01] <Agent_bob> iceweasel's third cusan
[07:01]  * Jucato guesses a "swiftfox" for iceweasel...
[07:01] <flaccid> all these things are easily researchable on google eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftweasel
[07:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> Agent_bob: I'm glad to see you, I decided to wipe out my entire hard drive, then i installed one of the 15 kubuntu cds i from canonical today and installed gnome and xfce, i am on xubuntu right now and i'm like the simplicity and quickness of it the most
[07:02] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: how did you get cds from canonical?
[07:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> shipit?
[07:03] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: why do you ask?
[07:04] <flaccid> i thought you could only get 1 cd now..
[07:04] <purdylilgirl> can someone help me fix my kdmtheme manager?  I can't load kdm logins
[07:05] <flaccid> purdylilgirl: what do you mean by can't load kdm logins?
[07:05] <purdylilgirl> in my kdmtheme manager flaccid
[07:06] <purdylilgirl> every time I load a new login theme it doesn't show up.  Im on Gutsy
[07:06] <flaccid> that actually sounds pretty normal. the theme manager has never worked properly
[07:07] <purdylilgirl> I fixed it once i found a link.  but I can't find it anymore
[07:07] <flaccid> ok
[07:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: having trouble getting opera look: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27648/
[07:08] <flaccid> !adeptfix | CostaRicanQuaker
[07:08] <flaccid> also the package name is opera, not opera-browser
[07:09] <gnumm> i use kubuntu with kde4.1 rc1, everytime i log out, i get a black screen and must restart my pc
[07:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27650/
[07:09] <flaccid> gnumm: there are existing bugs on launchpad about that behaviour. i suffer from it myself. also kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:09] <gnumm> ok
[07:10] <flaccid> !info opera | CostaRicanQuaker make sure you have the repos required enabled..
[07:10] <flaccid> hmm one sec
[07:10] <flaccid> its in partner.
[07:10] <flaccid> !opera | CostaRicanQuaker
[07:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[07:11]  * CostaRicanQuaker switches to kde
[07:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: nothing shows on adept upon typing opera
[07:16] <flaccid> sounds like you didn't read the wiki page
[07:17] <domentarion> hello
[07:17] <flaccid> !hi
[07:17] <domentarion> i have a problem with my kubuntu .. there is a problem with mounting devices
[07:18] <flaccid> what is the actual problem then?
[07:18] <domentarion> if i insert a usb device it doenst mount it
[07:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser ?
[07:19] <flaccid> yes CostaRicanQuaker
[07:19] <flaccid> domentarion: what happens?
[07:19] <domentarion> and is does nothing , there is also a device what i don't have a diskette drive
[07:19] <domentarion> yesterday is work fine to me
[07:19] <domentarion> and now it isn't
[07:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: gksu gedit /etc/fstab  = to open my repo file?
[07:20] <CostaRicanQuaker> open and edit*
[07:20] <flaccid> domentarion: after inserting the usb disk check dmesg and /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog to see what errors/messages there are
[07:21] <flaccid> !repos | CostaRicanQuaker
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1152.109432] usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1150.414247] usb 1-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1150.414959] scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1150.415652] usb-storage: device found at 11
[07:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: but is that the command for opening hte fstab ?
[07:21] <flaccid> !pastebin | domentarion
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1150.415660] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1155.406395] usb-storage: device scan complete
[07:21] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: fstab is not for repos, it is for filesystems
[07:21] <domentarion> [ 1155.406929] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USB      Flash Disk       5.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[07:22] <domentarion> [ 1155.409215] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 2046976 512-byte hardware sectors (1048 MB)
[07:22] <domentarion> [ 1157.242225] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[07:22] <Jucato> !flood | domentarion
[07:22] <domentarion> [ 1157.242233] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08
[07:22] <domentarion> [ 1157.242238] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[07:23] <domentarion> i did not find a error
[07:23] <jpds> hmm, lad
[07:23] <jpds> lag*
[07:24] <intelikey> guys it shouldn't but i am playing with my irc client,  if it does something that tic's you off i'll fix it asap.   ffr.
[07:24] <ubuntu__> Jucato: did i heared your uploaded a fix for this booting in @@?
[07:24] <flaccid> domentarion: make sure hal is running by issuing sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[07:25] <Jucato> ubuntu__: huh?
[07:25] <ubuntu__> ok no then
[07:25] <ubuntu__> hehe
[07:25] <domentarion> hal is running
[07:26] <ubuntu__> on kde4 there was a bug since rc1
[07:26] <domentarion> laso the partition en disk in the control panel doen'st work to
[07:27] <ubuntu__> i need a fix though, as i can't boot into my system now
[07:27] <flaccid> !doesntwork | domentarion
[07:28] <flaccid> domentarion: also are you trying this with the same usb disk that was originally working or a different one. you can also check sudo fdisk -l to see if the disk is coming up
[07:29] <domentarion> i tried with different usb-devices
[07:29] <flaccid> perhaps submit a bug domentarion and provide all the information you can like the messages in logs when plugged in etc..
[07:30] <domentarion> i gonna report is
[07:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: thank you
[07:31] <flaccid> np CostaRicanQuaker
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> someone told me that even if i'm on ubuntu i should install a firewall or something, i thought that with ubuntu i could forget about malware viruses and such
[07:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> since it's linux
[07:32] <flaccid> yeah you do not need a firewall, particularly because out of box there are no open ports listening either
[07:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i shouldn't worry about "prrotecting my home network"? this guy was a net engineer but he was on windows
[07:34] <jussi01> !firewall
[07:35] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: as it says, the firewall is built in already. if you want to manage it in any way, I would install guarddog
[07:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> jussi: so kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu is completely safe to install at my NGO's network?
[07:35] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: well is your ubuntu machine acting as your router? i doubt it is. you are probably behind a hardware router/firewall..
[07:36] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: come on, thats a pretty loaded question- but as safe or safer than windows imho
[07:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: jussi: my concern is this, i want to install kubuntu/ubuntu at my NGO's now they use a wireless router and have had attacks
[07:36] <jussi01> !tab | CostaRicanQuaker
[07:37] <intelikey> one more time.
[07:37] <flaccid> 1. i don't know what NGO is 2. out of the box there are no ports open so they can't get in anyway
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> so if install kubuntu at the peace centre's it will be bydefault safer than windows'
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?*
[07:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> or should i THEN install guarddog?
[07:38] <flaccid> like jussi01 was saying, thats a loaded question. and like i've said twice, there are no ports open
[07:38] <Agent_bob> hehehe   i think i messed up.  what kind of time stamp is this ?  15:01AM
[07:39] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: guarddog is just a front end for managing iptables - which is already installed
[07:39] <flaccid> i think there is enough evidence around to say in general that Linux is safter than Windows
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> so if anyone asks at the NGO and say theyhave to set up a router security system or something
[07:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> i can just tell them it's already installed in ubuntu and refer to that link?
[07:40] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: ubuntu has a firewall thats what you were asking I beleive - its built in by default
[07:40] <Agent_bob> installed != configured   but in general terms yes.
[07:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> great
[07:40] <flaccid> just say you are running linux with no servers installed. if you have set up ssh or samba or something, just let them know and make sure you have strong passwords..
[07:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> one more set of computers switched from microsoft to ubuntu
[07:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> what was the comand to get the flash plugins to be able to open youtube
[07:44] <CostaRicanQuaker> is this correct: sudo apt-get install flashplugin non-free ?
[07:44] <se7en_> !flash
[07:46] <karl_> it's sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:47] <CostaRicanQuaker> karl_, thanks
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> will the everyday run of the mill shipit kubuntu cd work on an apple macintosh computer?
[07:48] <karl_> np
[07:48] <karl_> depends on the era of macintosh
[07:48] <karl_> any of the new ones, yes
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> as in can i format the disk and then install kubuntu from the same cds?
[07:48] <karl_> yes, as long as they aren't powerpc
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> the same cd as the one i was sent for windows?
[07:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> i got
[07:48] <karl_> if it has an intel processor, you can use the same cd
[07:48] <intelikey> also there are shipit i386 k8 and mac cd's
[07:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> kubuntu 8.04
[07:49] <intelikey> yes
[07:49] <jussi01> CostaRicanQuaker: how old is the mac?
[07:49] <intelikey> depends on which you order
[07:49] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: how did you get more than 1 cd from shipit?
[07:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think it's one of them blue ones...you know those that came out in the early two thousands
[07:49] <karl_> you'll need the powerpc disc
[07:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: i ordered fifteen in the special request
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> powerpc disc?
[07:50] <intelikey> yep
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> !shipit
[07:50] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: was that the first time you had ordered with shipit?
[07:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> no, i had already ordered years ago, i had ordered like 5 cds of kubuntu version 5.10
[07:51]  * intelikey wonders why so many...
[07:51] <intelikey> you can make copies to give away.
[07:51] <karl_> intelikey: shuriken
[07:51] <intelikey> ;/
[07:52] <karl_> i turned mine into christmas tree orniments
[07:52] <karl_> ; )
[07:52] <flaccid> maybe i missed that special request link on the webpage or something
[07:52]  * intelikey thinks too much of FOSS to waste the free resources,
[07:52] <flaccid> ah i see it now. CostaRicanQuaker why did you raise a special request and get 15 ?
[07:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> well...you see, costaricans are very vain people who like products, i am one of them
[07:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> they like the product looking look and i understand this is an lts
[07:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> so they will last for a wee while
[07:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> so if i came with a copy i burned
[07:54] <flaccid> !enter | CostaRicanQuaker
[07:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> they'd probably think it's just some weird linux "program" that is not really as good as microsoft, so i want ot change as many computers as i can from windows to ubuntu
[07:54] <intelikey> so make a pretty cover for the burned copy.   </rolls eyes>
[07:55] <kenami> ??
[07:55] <kenami> o/
[07:55] <flaccid> thats a fair enough point, i just hope that your distribution is effective..
[07:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: me too...now, i only see, 64 bit and desktop at the shipit orderingpage
[07:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want to orderthsi for macs kubuntu as we got a donation of a mac today
[07:56] <flaccid> what type of mac is it?
[07:56] <karl_> an old blue one
[07:57] <flaccid> keep in mind you can also purchase cds in quantities from various sources..
[07:57] <flaccid> an imac g3 300 or someting?
[07:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> i think it's an old imac yes
[07:57] <intelikey> super mac
[07:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> so which should i get?
[07:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> the 64 bit, or the ones i got will work on it?
[07:59] <intelikey> neither
[07:59] <karl_> you need to get the powerpc
[07:59] <karl_> as we've said
[07:59] <karl_> over and over
[07:59] <flaccid> you need to check its arch and see if its ppc (powerpc). i have an imac g3 and yeah the g processors are obviously ppc..
[07:59] <flaccid> its always a good idea to verify instead of guessing as well :)
[07:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> i dont seethe powerpc listed from shipit
[08:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> on shipit*
[08:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> now, karl_: you said that if its an intel processor the ones i got will work, this is always correct?
[08:04] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: you probably are not going to get a response because its been answered already. old macs are not intel-based.
[08:04] <intelikey> there is not a ppc iso listed     what's up ?
[08:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: that's what i meant
[08:06] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker try in the vanella "ubuntu" section
[08:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: where is that option? i am @ shipit and i cant see it even in the special requests
[08:08] <flaccid> doesn't look like kubuntu builds current releases in ppc http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[08:09] <intelikey> Note to PowerPC (PPC) and SPARC users: These types of computers are not
[08:09] <intelikey> supported by the newest versions of Ubuntu. However Ubuntu 6.06 is still
[08:09] <intelikey> supported and available for your machine.
[08:09] <hume> hi.... I have some questions about kexi - anyone here can assist? first of all I cannot figure out if there is a way to create relationships between tables for use in forms, to assist insertion of data - anyone knows?
[08:09] <intelikey> flaccid doesn't look like any *buntu does.
[08:10] <intelikey> that's a quote from the official download link   ^   not supported other than dapper
[08:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: so that means in english that the only available version of ubuntu for macs is dapper
[08:11] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker correct,  even if im not flaccid
[08:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i can still burn an image form there get dapper and install kubuntu and gnome on it albeit without the upgrades
[08:11] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker that's a pretty good assessment
[08:11] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: if you don't mind a little more work, and want something currently supported, might i suggest debian?
[08:12]  * CostaRicanQuaker IS FLABBERGASTED
[08:12]  * CostaRicanQuaker points at the nonbuntu-er
[08:13] <intelikey> geek he's new to linux,   so if you lead him there, then help him there
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...hmm
[08:13] <intelikey> it's not a bad idea at all.   but: more work is right.
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> geek: does debian hve something like shipit? ihave not once been able to burn an image from my computers that worked
[08:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> even when the hashsums were right theyalways burnt with errors
[08:14] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: hmm. i usually use the netinstall disks... which are smaller
[08:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> netinstall disks? can you link me to this info?
[08:14] <intelikey> www.OSDisc.com
[08:15] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: one moment. i assume the mac has internet access?
[08:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> it will, as there's a wireless connection at the peace centre
[08:15] <geek> http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst
[08:15] <stevecarolinian> I am getting lots of Java Script errors when loading web pages.  Am running Kubuntu 6.06 LTS.  What can I do to eliminate these please?
[08:15] <intelikey> www.linuxcd.org
[08:15] <flaccid> stevecarolinian: contact the author of the webpage in question
[08:16] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: its not as easy as ubuntu, as intelikey mentioned, but as i said, you'll have maintained, very stable packages, though not ones as new as ubuntu
[08:16] <stevecarolinian> Getting these errors on too many different pages.  I think it is my computer, not the pages.
[08:17] <stevecarolinian> I can I correct Java handling on my computer?
[08:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> geek: how hard would you say ubuntu is from 1-10 10 being the highest?
[08:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> from the perspective of a windows to linux switchee
[08:17] <fkm> http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/5876879/Dutch-caf-changes-to-smokers-paradise-church
[08:17] <fkm> :)
[08:18] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: well for me there was little to no learving curve, just a matter of workin out how installers worked and what apps to use. 2-3 for me
[08:18] <flaccid> stevecarolinian: java != javascript. you can also try a different browser
[08:18] <CostaRicanQuaker> geek: how hard would you say debian is from 1-10
[08:18] <geek> debian would be a 5, maybe 6 if you wanted to take the time to get a leaner install
[08:19] <stevecarolinian> How do  get a different browser that Konqueror?
[08:19] <geek> (with 10 being me in tears at my system)
[08:19] <intelikey> stevecarolinian install it in the package manager
[08:19] <fkm> stevecarolinian, "apt-get install firefox" ;-)
[08:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> geek: leaner install? what does that mean? the info you pointed basically saysthat i could install it from the internet
[08:20] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker if you have the band width that's a good methood
[08:20] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: you can, for example, start with a plain KDE install with no additional apps, and add what you need as you need them
[08:21] <geek> i tend to build my debian boxen from pretty much nothing other than the bare minimum, and add stuff as and when i need them.  they tend to be VERY VERY lean
[08:21] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker there is a  #debian  channel for all debian related help.
[08:21]  * Jucato notes that this is #kubuntu... discussing other distros is better in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <geek> yup
[08:21] <geek> Jucato: my bad
[08:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, first i will check tomorrow about the mac
[08:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> then i might do that
[08:22] <CostaRicanQuaker> my passion is ubuntu and eventually linux but for now i'm still learning
[08:23] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker :)
[08:23] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: everyone is always learning ;p
[08:24] <intelikey> may i mention that linux is the kerenl, and the user space apps are GNU   even in    GNU/Linux-*buntu
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: i just sent meself an email with everything i need to install this operative system at the pc centre's computers
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> GNU rules, GPL rules, Richard Stallman rules
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> !Richard Stallman
[08:24] <geek> why do you need rules?
[08:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> i mean rocks*
[08:24] <intelikey> who is rms ?
[08:24] <geek> free software is free. GPL only really affects developers
[08:25] <Jucato> !offtopic
[08:25]  * geek thinks all you need to install ubuntu/kubuntu is the appropriate disk, maybe drivers, and time ;p
[08:26] <flaccid> stevecarolinian: Opera is also another good option, see !Opera
[08:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have a question
[08:26] <intelikey> Q  "what do linux users do?"
[08:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i get my sony ericsson phone w810i to work now that i've switched to ubuntu
[08:26] <intelikey> A  "they install software."
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> as in to plug it into my computer and be able to open it
[08:27] <CostaRicanQuaker> and load music into it
[08:27] <geek> intelikey: A: "they do anything other users do" ;p
[08:27] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: is it mass storage compatable, or is there a driver in windows?
[08:27] <intelikey> geek stick to the script.  don't adlib.
[08:28] <CostaRicanQuaker> geek: what? there was a driver in windows as in there's a cd somewhere i used
[08:28] <geek> intelikey: i forgot to reherse ;p
[08:28] <geek> CostaRicanQuaker: thought so
[08:29] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker but does it have an option to emulate disk mode   ?
[08:29] <intelikey> on the device itself
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i check for that?
[08:29] <CostaRicanQuaker> should i plug the cell into the usb?
[08:29] <intelikey> on the device itself,  in it's menus
[08:30] <intelikey> if it can act as mass storage.  then accessing it is easy.  if it can't then i don't think i know.
[08:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do?
[08:31]  * intelikey head desk
[08:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> it doesnt say anything about emulating disk mode on the menus
[08:31] <intelikey> no disk mode ?
[08:31] <intelikey> then i'm backing out, on this one.
[08:31] <intelikey> NEXT !
[08:31] <geek> most of what i can find from google involves bluetooth
[08:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> it has bluetooth
[08:32] <intelikey> that's an idea
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> but i want to be able to stick it to the usb
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> and put songs in it
[08:33] <intelikey> so plug it in and see what it does
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> by the way what is the best p2p client for kubuntu to get music
[08:33] <intelikey> !p2p
[08:33]  * CostaRicanQuaker does that
[08:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> er...from personal experience i mean
[08:34] <stevecarolinian> Are files for alternate browsers already on Kubuntu?
[08:34] <stevecarolinian> Or do i need to download them?
[08:34] <intelikey> dl
[08:34] <intelikey> stevecarolinian the package manager will dl them
[08:35] <kunixos> CostaRicanQuaker: i have had nothing but good use from Gtk-Gnutella
[08:35] <kunixos> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[08:35] <intelikey> stevecarolinian you on dialup ?
[08:35] <stevecarolinian> I have Adept Installer open and I see other browsers mentioned.
[08:35] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: it opened up...it recognized the phonecard
[08:35] <stevecarolinian> Yes, on dialup.
[08:35] <intelikey> stevecarolinian me too.  ;/
[08:36] <stevecarolinian> : (
[08:36] <CostaRicanQuaker> intelikey: but i only see one mp3 where there should be many
[08:36] <intelikey> stevecarolinian so you wont to dl any more than you have too.     but the package manager will fetch the packages you tell it too
[08:37] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker i know nothing.    nothing at all.
[08:37] <stevecarolinian> I see other browser showing in Adept Installer, but they are "faded out".
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker> ah well, i finally got kubuntu and xubuntu and gnome up and running and got rid of windows and everythings working smoothly
[08:38] <intelikey> stevecarolinian you can use the cli version and get what you like.    konsole command example:  sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:38] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[08:38] <intelikey> CostaRicanQuaker and not in a ntfs anymore ?
[08:38]  * CostaRicanQuaker installs gtk-gnutella
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> not anymore, wiped out all the disk and installed kubuntu from the shipit disks
[08:39] <intelikey> goodonyamate :)
[08:39] <intelikey> good on ya mate :)
[08:40] <stevecarolinian> will try a  konsole command
[08:40] <CostaRicanQuaker> brb
[08:41]  * intelikey watches stevecarolinian try it with adept still open....
[08:41] <stevecarolinian> are you trying to tell me i should close Adept?
[08:41] <stevecarolinian> LOL
[08:41] <intelikey> :)
[08:42] <intelikey> not me  !
[08:43] <stevecarolinian> I think I may have my answer: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:43] <intelikey> see     see    :)
[08:44] <stevecarolinian> Hey, you are not making this any easier.  I am a Linux newbie.
[08:44] <intelikey> sorry.
[08:44] <stevecarolinian> that OK
[08:45] <intelikey> stevecarolinian enjoy being laughed at now.  then you can do the same to others later cause you earned it.
[08:45] <stevecarolinian> I am a perpetual student at the school of hard knocks...
[08:46] <flaccid> !adeptfix | stevecarolinian this is for when you have closed adept but still have problem
[08:46] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[08:46] <intelikey> and really i don't mean to make it sound like i would take pleasure in your pain,  that's not it.  i just love good humour when it happens by.
[08:47] <intelikey> flaccid it didn't crash,   he ran apt-get with adept still open
[08:47] <intelikey> stevecarolinian simply closing adept and then retrying the command is all you need.
[08:48] <intelikey> stevecarolinian now.    also within the adept package manager you should have the option to enable extra repos.   check it's menus out for all the neet stuff.
[08:49] <flaccid> intelikey: yes it was an fyi!
[08:49] <stevecarolinian> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:49] <intelikey> !info firefox
[08:50] <stevecarolinian> This may mean that the package is missing,
[08:50] <intelikey> that's in main   if it's not avalable then you may not have your "main" repo enabled.
[08:50] <stevecarolinian> has been obsoleted,
[08:50] <intelikey> it's in "main"
[08:51] <intelikey> check out your repos.
[08:51] <intelikey> !repos
[08:51] <stevecarolinian> will check repos
[08:52] <intelikey> stevecarolinian and even though that may have seemed like a "round about" way to get there (i though i already knew why)  it was to help you learn how to trouble shoot things like for your self,   there is a methood to the madness.
[08:54] <intelikey> s/.*like/*like that/
[08:55] <stevecarolinian> I do internet tech support.  Do a LOT of troubleshooting for that.
[08:56] <stevecarolinian> I am tired and going to call it a day.
[08:56] <stevecarolinian> have a good night you all
[08:56] <stevecarolinian> will be back another day.
[08:57] <intelikey> my my.   touchy ?     or sleepy ?
[08:58]  * intelikey shouts as he leaves "use the konsole"  
[08:58] <intelikey> oh well.
[09:00] <shasha> how to install crystal eye webcam ?
[09:09] <cer> .
[09:14] <zxy_64> hi
[09:15] <zxy_64> i'm looking for a vrml 2.0 player on kubuntu 64bit
[09:15] <zxy_64> any ideas? as i had no success in the last half an hour with googling, at least nothing works
[09:15] <flaccid> maybe there isn't one
[09:18] <flaccid> zxy_64: maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openvrml-lookat ? its amd64
[09:18] <nagaku3> hello
[09:19] <flaccid> !hi
[09:46] <abogani> Hello everybody! Does anybody know from where can I download the image of kubuntu 8.04.1 DVD? I found ubuntu DVDs but not the kubuntu ones :-(
[09:48] <flaccid> !download | abogani
[09:51] <intelikey> sed '/\n/!G;s/\(.\)\(.*\n\)/&\2\1/;//D;s/.// ' .bash* | sed -e :a -e "s/^.\{1,$(($COLUMNS - 1))\}\$/ &/;ta "
[09:52] <abogani> flaccid: Thanks! :-)
[09:52] <flaccid> np
[09:55] <gnumm> how can i get the "folder view" plasmoid in kubuntu kde4?
[09:59] <flaccid> !kde4 | gnu
[09:59] <flaccid> oops
[10:10] <eshat> Ho all, somehow, my KDE does no automount USB-Sticks, is there any package that has to be installed ?
[10:11] <flaccid> eshat no package to be installed it should do it auto. check your /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages to see what the problem could be
[10:17] <eshat> flaccid: there seems to be no problem in szslog and messages, it's only, that it is not mounted automatically
[10:19] <flaccid> eshat: you do not get a popup in kde3 asking you what to do when you instert the disk?
[10:20] <eshat> flaccid: no
[10:20] <flaccid> if hald is running and you have no errors/suspicious messages in the logs then submit a bug
[10:37] <emons> hi guyz
[10:37] <emons> kopete doesn't get connected
[10:37] <emons> any idea why?
[10:38] <jajajon> emons can you be more specific?
[10:38] <emons> alright
[10:38] <emons> i was setting iptables and i block all the input traffic
[10:38] <emons> by following the guide
[10:39] <emons> that of course doesn't tell you "do not do it now otherwise internet is not goin to work" but it just says "type the following command"
[10:40] <flaccid> i think you need to learn networking and firewalls first emons
[10:40] <emons> anyway, wasn't modifiyng any configuration files so i just reboot
[10:40] <emons> and checked iptables policy again
[10:40] <emons> and itz all allowed
[10:40] <emons> so why kopete just doesn't get connected?
[10:40] <flaccid> !enter | emons
[10:41] <jajajon> emons do your other web apps get connected?
[10:41] <emons> yes of course
[10:42] <flaccid> correct config of iptables is required to allow the right ports etc..
[10:42] <emons> and as i said i checked after i reboot with this command sudo iptables -L if iptables policy was back to its default (and it is)
[10:43] <emons> also because otherwise i wouldn't be able to chat here, or to use firefox
[10:43] <emons> but kopete doesn't work... anyone can fix that?
[10:43] <flaccid> emons: can you please listen - keep your responses on one line!
[10:43] <emons> sorry flaccid
[10:43] <flaccid> what happens with kopete when you try to connect?
[10:44] <emons> it just doesn't "move" usually i have to click on "set status > online" to get it connected which i do but nothing happens
[10:44] <flaccid> emons: i've had that before. i just keep trying or restart kopete. you are also welcome to submit a bug.
[10:46] <emons> i thought it could be cuz kopete was running when i set iptables policy all traffic denied and then i reboot without closing kopete so i think it probably remained stock in somehow of... i dunno
[10:47] <flaccid> doubt it
[10:47] <inomine> Hello all. I presume that the package conflicts with the latest KDE4 beta packages is well known?
[10:48] <incorrect> hello, with quanta, is it possible to get it to sort out indentation for you?
[10:49] <flaccid> !kde4 | inomine
[10:50] <inomine> Ah, thankyou kindly, I shall ask in there.
[11:02] <emons> if anyone's interested i solved the problem with kopete deleting my account and re-creating it, now it works fine
[11:03] <flaccid> yeah thats unfortunate emons. which kopete version is this?
[11:05] <emons> dunno though i guess itz the last one it came with the kubuntu last packet
[11:05] <flaccid> emons: check please in Help | About
[11:07] <emons> it weird it actually doesn't say in help and there's no about button
[11:07] <emons> o_O
[11:08] <flaccid> emons: are you running kopete-kde4 or something
[11:08] <emons> kde3
[11:09] <flaccid> emons: goto the Help menu at top and select About Kopete, it will say in there..
[11:11] <emons> could be that im handicapped but i swear it doesn't anywhere
[11:11] <flaccid> you have no help menu?
[11:12] <emons> yes there is but when i open it, it doesn't open the kopete help menu but the kubuntu help menu
[11:13] <flaccid> um ok thats weird ah well
[11:14] <emons> yes it is
[11:14] <emons> flaccid something else...
[11:16] <emons> when i open rhythmbox 3 pop ups come out saying "plugin error" respectively of jamendo magnatude and cover art, these plugins are not loaded so itz not like it runs em and they dont work, how do i fix that?
[11:16] <flaccid> i've never used rythmbox s i can't help sorry. maybe google can or someone else
[11:17] <emons> i tried but nothing found...
[11:18] <flaccid> dang
[11:22] <emons> hey flaccid
[11:22] <emons> finally found something interesting, i should install python-gst0.10 how do i do that? i mean litterally
[11:22] <flaccid> !info python-gst0
[11:23] <flaccid> doesn't look like its in the repos. probably have to install from somewhere else
[11:23] <flaccid> !find python gst
[11:23] <flaccid> !find python
[11:23]  * flaccid goes to website
[11:26] <derTraumreiter> Hoi
[11:28] <flaccid> !info python-gst0.10 | emons
[11:28] <derTraumreiter> I bought a new Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 and now I'm not quite sure which architecture version (x86 or x64-86) I should take?
[11:29] <emons> what does that mean?
[11:30] <flaccid> emons: install it and see if it is what you need
[11:30] <emons> yes i think so i found it on a forum
[11:30] <emons> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=25929&sid=055644c3ec39ddeb31d6d6ca2345976d
[11:31] <flaccid> derTraumreiter: x86
[11:32] <derTraumreiter> flaccid: Thanks :) ('Cause the manual says it also have support for intel 64 arch.)
[11:34] <flaccid> derTraumreiter: ah yes. i forgot about that you are right. 64bit does have some stuff missing but
[11:37] <derTraumreiter> flaccid: but...?
[11:37] <derTraumreiter> So I better stay with the "normal" x86?!
[11:37] <emons> flaccid if ur interested i typed sudo apt-get install python-gst0.10 and it installed it with all the dependencies and now the prob is solved
[11:37] <flaccid> emons: sweet it worked then
[11:37] <flaccid> derTraumreiter: thats up to you
[11:38] <derTraumreiter> flaccid: ok ... I'll try and see. ;) Nevertheless: Thank you
[11:39] <flaccid> np
[11:41] <flaccid> derTraumreiter[a: http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2007/03/29/which-ubuntu-for-a-core-2-duo and yeah things like flash and so forth are not full 64bit etc. there might be some stuff like programs and the like you can't do on 64bit yet
[11:47] <derTraumreiter[a> flaccid: thanks. Exactly my problem. ;) So I'll see what I'll do. Maybe I'll stay with 32bit ... I think about it, I also have some time till my package arrives =)
[11:48] <flaccid> derTraumreiter[a: cool. yeah i have not gone to 64bit myself because of the uncomplete support by vendors (linux/kernel is great support, but the rest..)
[11:49] <derTraumreiter> (sry, for the name changes, but I my name is too long for an [afk] suffix -.-)
[11:50] <flaccid> derTraumreiter: don't use a suffix. use an away msg.
[11:51] <derTraumreiter> flaccid: ok, I'll do :) Wasn't a long time not on IRC and it's just the second time that I'm on freenode.
[11:51] <flaccid> cool
[11:52] <derTraumreiter> I think I'll first use a x86 and try out the 64bit out later ... my new hdd should be great enough for some more testing systems :D
[11:57] <derTraumreiter> flaccid: Thank you for the hints ... and now I'm goning to take my breakfast ...
[11:57]  * derTraumreiter is away: afk, breakfast
[11:58] <flaccid> derTraumreiter: no away messages on freenode :)
[12:08] <emons> hi guys du no why when i play a video with kaffeine the visualization's full of stripes like if it was interlaced? already tried to set the best deinterlacing options etc
[12:09] <andypls1> how can i make the windows in other desktops not appear in the taskbar of the current desktop?
[12:10] <FoxIII> andypls1,  are you using compiz?
[12:10] <andypls1> whats that?
[12:11] <FoxIII> !compiz | andypls1
[12:11] <flaccid> andypls1: i think thats in configure panel | taskbar from right clicking the panel
[12:11] <flaccid> 'Show windows from all desktops
[12:12] <FoxIII> heh. You got there before me flaccid:)
[12:12] <andypls1> yeah
[12:12] <andypls1> thanks a lot :)
[12:12] <FoxIII> emons,  What video format are you attempting to view?
[12:13] <emons> avi
[12:13] <emons> is it a question of codecs?
[12:13] <flaccid> could be codecs or encryption or a badly made video
[12:14] <FoxIII> emons,  it does sound like it, yes.
[12:14] <FoxIII> !codecs | emons
[12:14] <emons> the thing is that ive got lots of videos all in .avi format
[12:15] <flaccid> avi is generally just a container
[12:15] <emons> ill run this i guess   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:16] <flaccid> that won't help considering kaffeine is kde. perhaps also install kubuntu-restricted-extras. but the fact is you are getting lines in your video which means the codec is working. so it could be encryption or otherwise. interlacing is also fundamentally an analog thing
[12:30] <blassphemy> moin
[12:39] <emons> sorry guys to configure iptables i do it with netfilter?
[12:40] <flaccid> you can use many things to configure iptables. i thought netfilter and iptables were the same thing.
[12:40] <flaccid> !kmyfirewall
[12:40] <flaccid> !info kmyfirewall
[12:40] <flaccid> thats what i recommend
[12:43] <emons> kmyfirewall
[12:44] <emons> is it a graphical interface program to set iptables?
[12:44] <flaccid> emons: correct
[12:44] <emons> alright thanks
[12:44] <emons> i'll check it out
[12:44] <flaccid> np
[12:45] <emons> so i guess i should type sudo apt-get install kmyfirewall
[12:45] <emons> right?
[12:45] <jussi01> yes
[12:45] <emons> thx
[12:45] <flaccid> emons: yes once you have enabled universe repos if not enabled already
[12:46] <emons> whatz that?
[12:46] <flaccid> !repos | emons
[12:47] <emons> ah u mean the repository
[12:47] <emons> i think i have it already
[12:50] <Andrew62> hey guys, got a question, Is it possable to install openSUSE alongside kubuntu, (partition the disk) as well as xp and vista, with kubuntu vista and xp installed already?
[12:50] <Andrew62> and can you do it without doing all the rastarting and risking losing all the OS's
[12:50] <flaccid> Andrew62:  yes
[12:52] <flaccid> !pastebin | emons
[12:52] <flaccid> !adeptfix | emons only one process can use dpkg
[12:53] <emons> i was trying to install the restricted codecs for video before but at some point i accidentally closed the terminal, now i tried to install something else and it told me  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) du think itz cuz there's still the other installation running? how do i do? thx
[12:53] <flaccid> emons: see the adepfix command advised above
[12:54] <emons> ?
[12:55] <flaccid> emons: [12:55] <emons> thx
[12:55] <flaccid> np
[12:55] <emons> and then i kill the process?
[12:56] <flaccid> that does that for you. won't you try it first ?
[12:57] <emons> u mean try to see if i can make it work again?
[12:58] <flaccid> !u | emons
[12:58] <kaminix> How do I redirect page.com to page.com/forum/index.php?action=unread;all;start=0 via the /etc/hosts file?
[12:58] <flaccid> emons: have you run the command yet? because thats all you need to do then you can run adept again
[12:58] <flaccid> kaminix: you cannot.
[12:58] <emons> i did run the command and it said
[12:58] <emons> kill process 8978? y/n ?
[12:59] <emons> thatz y i asked do i have to kill it? or i can try to fix it
[12:59] <flaccid> emons: answer yes to all of them and then you can run apt-get or Adept Manager again. please keep your responses on one line.
[12:59] <emons> and continue with the previous installation and the start the kmyfirewall installation again?
[13:00] <emons> alright
[13:00] <hw> How can I reliable copy strings from Acrobat Reader 8 on kubuntu 7.10? I select a text click on copy or press ctrl+c but the test doesn't show up on klipper. The PDF document isn't copy protected. Any ideas?
[13:00] <flaccid> hw: i have no idea. but kpdf works fine for that kind of thing
[13:00] <sebastian> huhu^^
[13:01] <hw> flaccid: This is just the second best solution... =)
[13:01] <Bas> blubb
[13:03] <flaccid> yeah buts it free and it works
[13:03] <berniyh> hi, quick question, does the live cd of kubuntu come with konvi?
[13:03] <flaccid> berniyh: i don't think so
[13:04] <berniyh> hmm
[13:04] <emons> sorry flacc i re-run the previous installation the one that was blocking the all thing and now the "configuring sun-jav6.jre" window opened but it just doesn't move i can't click ok or press enter cuz nothing happens... what do i do?
[13:05] <TGD> what is konvi
[13:05] <flaccid> emons: its text based. you have to press tab to the button then press enter. mouse won't work i don't think
[13:05] <emons> omg
[13:05] <emons> thx
[13:05] <emons> i feel so stupid :D thank u
[13:05] <berniyh> TGD: konversation (kde irc client)
[13:05] <flaccid> emons: keep your reponses on one line and use you instead of u !
[13:06] <moope1> hi, I have firebox 3.0b and want to upgrade to the full 3.0, whats the most painless way to upgrade?
[13:06] <emons> mmm ok... sorry mate...
[13:07] <emons> ok now that i installed kmyfirewall how do i get it started?
[13:08] <flaccid> emons: run the command kmyfirewall from alt+f2 or select it from the kmenu
[13:08] <emons> from the kmenu under internet it doesn't appear thatz why i asked, neither on system or utilities
[13:09] <emons> alright found it
[13:09] <flaccid> it either doesn't have an entry or the menu needs refreshing..
[13:09] <askand> Hm, how do I add more languages to my KDE 4?
[13:10] <ubuntu> haj
[13:11] <emons> As the file format used to save the rulesets has changed, rulesets created with KMyFirewall < 1.0beta1 WILL NOT work, don't even try it! what about that? this is really stressful...
[13:12] <kervin> test
[13:12] <kervin> hello
[13:13] <flaccid> emons: i didn't know about that. a couple of things you should be aware of... there are programs to help you configure an iptables firewall, but none are very easy. you still need to know about networking,iptables and so forth. so there is a lot of learning to do.
[13:14] <emons> flaccid i do no how to set a firewall but what i dont no is how to solve this prob
[13:14] <lampe> hello
[13:14] <kervin> hello
[13:15] <flaccid> emons: use something else like guarddog or learn how to do it without a frontend program
[13:47] <darkosoul> ciao
[13:48] <darkosoul> qualcuno mi sa dire perchè firefox non riesco impostare l'italiano
[13:48] <flaccid> !it | darkosoul
[13:48] <darkosoul> sorry
[13:49] <flaccid> np
[14:04] <mendnwngs> hrm
[14:04] <mendnwngs> looking for the ubuntu channel.. trying #ubuntu
[14:07] <Haza> Afternoon folks. What is the command to unlock my Adept again?
[14:08] <Haza> It seems to get locked up quite alot :(
[14:08] <flaccid> !adeptfix | Haza
[14:08] <flaccid> keep in mind only 1 program (package manager) can access dpkg at 1 time
[14:08] <Dr_willis> be sure you only have one package manager type program running at a time.
[14:09] <Dr_willis> I rarely ever see mine get 'locked'
[14:09] <Haza> See i know what it _could_ be
[14:09] <Haza> It looks like i tried to install the JDK 6 documents and it never worked
[14:10] <Haza> so when i usse that command you gave me above i get a message about trying to install the JDK docs...
[14:11] <Haza> Setting up sun-java6-doc (6-00-2ubuntu2) ...
[14:12] <flaccid> Haza: yeah well um finish the update etc. and let us know if you have another problem
[14:12] <Haza> flaccid: I think the update fails every time for some reason mate
[14:13] <tsb_> Is it possible to change settings->encoding in konsole from the terminal?
[14:14] <flaccid> Haza: show us the error then
[14:14] <Haza> flaccid: 2 mins mate :)
[14:14] <flaccid> np
[14:14] <Haza> Im just running the system update
[14:15] <flaccid> cool
[14:16] <Haza> flaccid: Yeah it looks like the entire update / install process is a little broken. For example when i tried to run the system update i get the message (half way through installing the updates)... "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[14:17] <Haza> Im pretty sure it was when i tried to install the JDK docs
[14:17] <Haza> so ive just searched from them in the package manager and remove them just now
[14:19] <flaccid> Haza: if you do the update from konsole with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade you should be able to get actual errors to see the problem
[14:26] <Andrew62> Hi, need help, realtek suround sound card not working, amarok gives error "xine could not initialise any audio drivers" tried everything i can find on google
[14:30] <White_Pelican> is there a utility within kubunto to clean up all the packages downloaded?
[14:31] <White_Pelican> rather than select all the ones in var/apt/cache?
[14:31] <Jucato> sudo apt-get clean
[14:31] <White_Pelican> ty Jucato
[14:31] <White_Pelican> that helps :)
[14:32] <emons> hi how do i install flaash player? sudo apt-get install adobe flash player doesn't work
[14:32] <emons> whatz itz name?
[14:33] <flaccid> !flash | emons flashplugin-nonfree is the pkg name
[14:33] <flaccid> !flash
[14:33] <White_Pelican> I think it's flash-nonfree
[14:33] <emons> fresh-nonfree alright ill try that thx
[14:33] <White_Pelican> but you have ot have the atom uncommented in source.list
[14:34] <emons> nope
[14:34] <emons> itz not, what do i have pelican?
[14:34] <White_Pelican> hang on
[14:34] <emons> sudo apt-get install flashpugin-nonfree
[14:34] <emons> itz this one by the way
[14:35] <White_Pelican> right
[14:35] <White_Pelican> I didn't commit the name to memory :)
[14:35] <White_Pelican> I already have it installed :)
[14:36] <emons> but what were u sayinh? that i have the atom uncommented? what is it? a free flash player?
[14:38] <White_Pelican> by atom, and I might have the wrong terminology, is the line in sources.list that might need to be uncommented
[14:38] <emons> hey sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work...
[14:38] <pag> !doesntwork | emons
[14:39] <emons> hey sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree smokes joints all day watching tv on my sofa
[14:39] <emons> lol
[14:46] <TimS> I like the look of the electric sheep screensaver, but does it take up huge ammounts of space?
[14:46] <TimS> I read that it did somewhere.
[14:47] <White_Pelican> space as in hard drive space?
[14:48] <TimS> Yeah
[14:48] <White_Pelican> hmmm
[14:48] <TimS> Because you need to download 'sheep' or something
[14:48] <White_Pelican> you might want to check out the website for that info
[14:56] <elirips> hello. can someone please recoomend me a good ftp-client for KDE?
[14:59] <flaccid> elirips: krusader or if you want a specialist client, kftpgrabber
[14:59] <Jucato> !ftp
[14:59] <Jucato> hm...
[14:59] <Jucato> elirips: Konqueror, kftpgrabber, I think there are 2 others I forgot
[15:00] <flaccid> krusader! :p
[15:21] <dilipgarg> Hello all.
[15:22] <dilipgarg> I am trying to install java/jre 6 on hardyheron distro for firefox 3 but the java chat windows keeps getting all greyed out
[15:22] <dilipgarg> is it a known bug for java6 on firefox
[15:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> so... what do you need?
[15:24] <dilipgarg> i am just trying to get it to work.. the java chat i mean
[15:27] <dilipgarg> Daisuke.. do you recommend anything for the resolution
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> well, if it's a known bug, and there are no workarounds posted, then probably not
[15:28] <dilipgarg> insightful
[15:30] <dilipgarg> may i ask who's the team/person handling the support queries here ?
[15:37] <rune> hi
[15:37] <corigo> I need help with partitioning
[15:38] <rune> some here expert abt mysql on linux...??
[15:38] <corigo> When doing a clean install I am trying to partition with 6 partitions but after setting up # 4 the partition tool tells me the remainder of the disk is unusable
[15:39] <pag> corigo, HD's only allow 4 primary partitions – create an extended partition, and the rest of partitions within it
[15:40] <corigo> pag how do I create an extended partion?
[15:41] <khaije1> were there any issues w/ touchpads freaking out after a Hardy install?/
[15:41] <pag> corigo, to be honest I don't remember – iirc it can be set in 'type' for the new partition
[15:41] <khaije1> I think my lappy keyboard needs to be replaced, it's just weird
[15:42] <corigo> are boot and root enough for the install? can I create it later?
[15:43] <flaccid> !partition | corigo
[15:44] <corigo> u
[15:44] <corigo> ubottu, so you're saying partition with another tool while booted from the CD then do the install?
[15:44] <pag> corigo, only root is needed for install – personally I'd reccomend root and home, but if you're not performing some kind of special tasks (server etc.) then more partitions than that is pretty useless
[15:44] <corigo> yes server
[15:45] <flaccid> oh i misread. just use the installer and keep it simple :)
[15:45] <rune_ubuntu_NO> need help mysql..
[15:45] <corigo> flaccid the installer doesn't allow me to creat extended partitions
[15:45] <flaccid> rune_ubuntu_NO: #mysql
[15:46] <rune_ubuntu_NO> #mysql
[15:46] <flaccid> corigo: you don't need em. if you already have 4 primary parts then yeah use qtparted from livecd then install like you said
[15:46] <rune_ubuntu_NO> *Thnx. im new here
[15:47] <flaccid> np
[15:49] <Moonstorm> i need to mount a failing hard drive from the live cd to recover some data before pitching it.  how do i mount that drive?
[15:50] <corigo> and how do I find/run qtparted?
[15:50] <flaccid> corigo: install from adept, you probably need to enabled universe first
[15:50] <flaccid> !info qtparted
[15:50] <flaccid> Moonstorm: system settings | disks & filesystems
[15:52] <corigo> ubottu mean you that it is not on the CD?
[15:53] <corigo> flaccid the universe is my oyster, what mean you?
[15:54] <DarkAudit> How do I get apt to check my local apt-build directory first? Here's my apt-cache policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27748/
[15:54] <DarkAudit> setting Pin: release o=apt-build and Pin-Priority: 990 in /etc/apt/preferences made no difference
[15:54] <flaccid> !repos | corigo just enable universe in adept
[15:55] <flaccid> and yeah its not on the live cd
[15:56] <corigo> if it
[15:56] <corigo> 's not on the live CD how am I to run it? I can't run it from a disk I am partitioning can I?
[15:58] <flaccid> corigo: you open adept manager after booting livecd and enable universe in manage repositories from top menu. then you can install qtparted into the livecd session. then you can run qtparted, do what you need, then you can reboot and do your install with the partition(s) you created
[16:00] <corigo> flaccid, sounds great, but qtparted doesn't show up in the list even with multiverse
[16:01] <flaccid> corigo: multiverse != universe
[16:03] <corigo> both
[16:03] <corigo> either
[16:03] <corigo> still no qtparted
[16:03] <corigo> or gparted
[16:03] <flaccid> you need to fetch updates first
[16:03] <reagleBRKLN> ha google maps stopped working for other konq (3.5.9) users? when i try to look at a map, i just get a big grey box
[16:03] <reagleBRKLN> e.g., http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en_US&resnum=0&q=breezy+point+~ny&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image
[16:09] <DennyB> wie starte ich den Xserver neu
[16:09] <Dr_willis> !de
[16:10] <DennyB> wie starte ich den xserver neu
[16:11] <DennyB> !xserver
[16:17] <Kovert> q? when i click the start button on KDE4.1 I dont have all the icons? Oxygen
[16:18] <flaccid> Kovert: try #kubuntu-kde4
[16:18] <Kovert> thanks!
[16:18] <flaccid> np
[16:19] <DarkAudit> the versions here are the same... what did I miss to keep apt from using the local one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27753/
[16:26] <fulat2k> hi folks, once in a while kubuntu fails to display the device icon for usb devices.  is there anyway i can restart any daemon instead of doing a reboot?
[16:33] <pteague_laptop> how do i prevent strigi from running?
[16:43] <Yarcanox> always when submitting the changes in adept updater, my file system of the main ext3 partition which contains everything gets (re)mounted(?) as read-only
[16:48] <stefano> ciao
[16:48] <stefano> !list
[16:55] <corigo> Why Kubuntu and not Miny?
[16:55] <corigo> Minty?
[16:58] <pag> corigo, why Kubuntu or Mint instead of Debian? Why not Gentoo? There's no single reason why one should pick some distro over another. Try 'em all, and decide what's best for your needs
[17:03] <corigo> pag, so you've no opinion?
[17:04] <pag> corigo, I use neither, so I can't say you which is better – they're both too bloated for my needs (+ I'm irratated by apt)
[17:06] <Gruggo> Hello! Could someone help me with a problem?
[17:06] <jussi01> corigo: one thing to take into consideration is the community - we dont support mint here
[17:07] <jussi01> Gruggo: ask!
[17:07] <jals> should systemsettingsrc be owned by root or the logged in user?
[17:07] <Gruggo> Jussi01: I can't get my ipod to work with kubuntu, It won't mount
[17:08] <pag> jals, if it's in your /home, then definatly user
[17:08] <jussi01> !ipod | Gruggo
[17:08] <jals> it is, under .kde/share/config
[17:08] <jals> somehow got changed to root ownership i guess, stopping me from changing systemsettings without doing it through command line
[17:08] <Gruggo> tanks=)
[17:08] <jussi01> :)
[17:09] <jussi01> !tab | Gruggo: alos, this makes things easier ;)
[17:10] <pag> jals, then change the owner: sudo chown your_username:your_username ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc
[17:10] <jals> ok, thanks, just wanted to make sure i wasn't doing something silly by doing that
[17:11] <scheuri> rsync problem/question: I have got a little script rsyncing three folders to my USB stick...all in all thousands of files and about 8 GB of data (at least for the initial run). Now, if I am not mistaken, a second run right after should be done fairly quick and without any transfer, right?
[17:11] <bobo> hello good ppl of the irc realm
[17:11] <scheuri> hi there bobo
[17:12] <pag> jals, also, if it keeps changing after launching systemsettings with root priveledges, I sudgest you'd file a bug report, since I doubt it is an intended behaviour
[17:12] <bobo> have i told eveyone in here that i love this os
[17:12] <jals> no i don't think that's what changed it, but it was the only way i could change it subsequently, cos the owner was now root
[17:12] <jals> not sure what changed it :S
[17:14] <jarle> By accident I added the KDE4 rc repo to the wrong box and started updating packages, is it possible to remove the repo and revert the changes somehow?
[17:16] <bobo> why is it so quiet in here or is that a good thing
[17:17] <bobo> hey i know what i need
[17:18] <ocs__> hi. how can i see if my installation is 32 or 64 bit ? thnks
[17:18] <pag> ocs__, uname -r    iirc
[17:19] <ocs__> pag: no
[17:19] <bobo> i own a poolhall and need a program to keep track of the time people put on the tables and so on can anyone help me out
[17:19] <Pici> ocs__: uname -m  i386=32bit, x86_64 = 64bit
[17:20] <ocs__> Pici: i686
[17:20] <pag> ocs__, 32bit still
[17:21] <ocs__> thnks
[17:24] <HailandKill> What package includes xine-cheeck..? I have xine-ui installed  but xxine-check doesnn't seem to exist..
[17:27] <jussi01> !find xine-check
[17:27] <jussi01> HailandKill: ^
[17:28] <Pici> xine-ui: /usr/share/man/man1/xine-check.1.gz   /me shrugs
[17:28] <bobo> someone has to teach me how to work the bots
[17:28] <AMDpenguin> is kde 4.1 a major jump from kde 4.0?
[17:28] <HailandKill> ...Hmm..
[17:28] <Pici> !usage | bobo
[17:29] <Guiri> !kde4
[17:31] <bobo> thats cool i like this stuff a little better every day and its mainly because of the little stuff you can do
[17:33] <HailandKill>  /usr/share/man/man1/xine-check.1.gz will just be the man pages, no?
[17:35] <DennyBlue> wieder da
[17:35] <bobo> is there some kind of programers room or something
[17:35] <DennyBlue> hab gerade ein problem festgestellt ... ich höre keinen ton!
[17:36] <pag> !de | DennyBlue
[17:39] <vit> hola kubuntu
[17:40] <vit> kubuntu como estas?
[17:40] <gkffjcs_> hey all, dose anyone know if it's possible to get compositing up and running on my rather legacy graphics card. Here's the lspci | grep VGA output "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)"
[17:44] <rambo> siema
[17:44] <rambo> mam problem
[17:44] <vit> hola
[17:44] <rambo> są jacys Polacy ?
[17:44] <vit> hola rambo
[17:44] <rambo> hola
[17:44] <rambo> mam problem
[17:44] <vit> rambo como estas
[17:45] <Schorfi> !es | vit
[17:45] <rambo> wlasnie instaluja mi sie aktualizacje
[17:45] <Schorfi> !pl | rambo
[17:45] <vit> como estas rambo
[17:45] <Schorfi> :)
[17:47] <spiel_mit_feuer> any if you know an ubuntu chatroom that deals with alternative desktops other than kde, xfce, and gnome?
[17:47] <bazhang> #fluxbuntu
[17:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> i guess they might know the answers to which i seek
[17:48] <DarkAudit> what is going on here? I just did an apt-build of three packages, with the source from the ubuntu repositories. Now Update Manager is saying those same three pakages have an update available, when apt-cache policy shows identical version numbers.
[17:50] <emons> hi guys how do i "use" my i-pod from amarok?
[17:50] <DarkAudit> like this one for firefox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27774/
[17:51] <rambo> kto POlak i zna sie na kubuntu ?
[17:51] <emons> how do i mount the i-pod?
[17:52] <spiel_mit_feuer> anyway.. my question is about building a custom desktop environment using a selection of key components for developing the desktop
[17:53] <jofko> emons: are you on kde 3.5 or kde4?
[17:53] <emons> 3
[17:53] <spiel_mit_feuer> i didnt like KDE4
[17:53] <spiel_mit_feuer> dunno why
[17:53] <spiel_mit_feuer> i did like dolphin though, that was pretty cool.. i just hated the desktop widgets instead of icons
[17:54] <blajumper> kde4 screws up my filesystem with latest upgrade and fails to remove >.<
[17:54] <genii> blajumper: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[17:54]  * blajumper just wants to get away from kde4 now...
[17:54] <blajumper> genii yes... already there.. just wanted to tell my German friend about that =P
[17:54] <blajumper> spiel_mit_feuer ich mags auch nicht.... as you can see
[17:55] <jofko> emons: so after plugin your ipod icon on desktop should appear
[17:55] <emons> it did
[17:55] <emons> it took a while
[17:55] <emons> but it did
[17:55] <jofko> so click on it, and it's mounted
[17:56] <emons> yes i wanted to open it with amarok so i could update playlists etc but amarok just crashed ill try again thx
[17:56] <jofko> emons: you need to mount it first, after its mounted you can work with it on amarok
[17:57] <dilipgarg> does somebody know how to play embedded divx videos on firefox 3 (kde 3.5)
[17:57] <spiel_mit_feuer> does mplayer do it dilipgarg?
[17:57] <genii> DarkAudit: See remarks in third posting here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-491692.html
[17:57] <emons> i did mount it jofko but this is what it says:
[17:57] <emons> Media Device: iPod mounted at /media/FREAK already locked. If you are sure that this is an error, then remove the file /media/FREAK/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock and try again.
[17:58] <dilipgarg> i have already installed mplayer but when i try to watch the divx video, there's only a grey screen
[17:58] <DarkAudit> genii: did that, no change
[17:58] <jofko> emons: then remove the file and try it again
[17:59] <emons> alright
[18:00] <genii> DarkrAudit: The system will always give preference to the official versions of an app unless specifically told to use another version by way of the pinning method described there.
[18:00] <dilipgarg> spiel, i was looking at this thread earlier http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683. But this didnt help me either
[18:04] <DarkAudit> I can eject my ipod normally by right-clicking and choosing eject, but trying eject from the command line only unmounts.  to get it to completely eject from a terminal requires a  command line. what gives?
[18:05] <DarkAudit> (the right-click and eject works in GNOME, not KDE)
[18:07] <PHaLaNX11> i have a question regarding the display driver
[18:07] <PHaLaNX11> may i ask?
[18:08] <rickest> !ask
[18:08] <PHaLaNX11> ok :) sorry
[18:08] <PHaLaNX11> i've been using nvidia-glx-new driver with kubuntu hardy with the resolution and refresh rates i had no problem with before.
[18:08] <PHaLaNX11> But 3 days ago it caused my monitor to broke down
[18:09] <PHaLaNX11> ý sent it to service but i'm not sure how to setup the driver so that it won't happen again
[18:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats the linux command of entirely removing a software package from your system including config files and dependancies which are not used by other programs currently installed?
[18:09] <Pici> spiel_mit_feuer: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[18:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> should be an apt command or something, right?
[18:09] <spiel_mit_feuer> i tried that.. and it still leaves crap on
[18:10] <jofko> spiel_mit_feuer: eject
[18:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> eject?
[18:10] <jofko> eject
[18:10] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats that do? and how is it used?
[18:11] <jofko> eject <device>
[18:11] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: how can you be so sure your driver/settings "caused" the problem?
[18:11] <PHaLaNX11> do i need to manually enter vsync and hsync values for my monitor in xorg.conf?
[18:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> you must be talking to someone else jofko
[18:12] <spiel_mit_feuer> im asking how to completely remove a package including configuration files and such
[18:12] <jofko> spiel_mit_feuer: yes i see sorry
[18:12] <PHaLaNX11> rickest: the service told me that it had been used with wrong settings
[18:12] <jofko> spiel_mit_feuer: aptitude purge <package> is your command
[18:13] <PHaLaNX11> but i was using the same res/ref values with winxp with no problem for years
[18:14] <spiel_mit_feuer> does that work even after somethings been removed with aptitude remove?
[18:14] <jofko> spiel_mit_feuer: yes
[18:14] <jofko> spiel_mit_feuer: then it will remove only configuration files
[18:15] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: I think that's a pretty dubious claim.  Do they even know what your settings were?
[18:15] <genii> spiel_mit_feuer: Even the --purge option will not remove items within home directories of users. Only old conf files in the main tree of root drive. Items in home directories of users still need manual removing no matter what.
[18:15] <PHaLaNX11> i read something that you need to manually enter the right vsync and hsync values but i thought that it was ok, because the driver had recognised my monitor
[18:15] <DarkAudit> aha! gnome-eject will eject my ipod as a regular user. Plain eject or kdeeject requires sudo. What's up with this?
[18:16] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: yes, generally those 'vsync' 'hsync' settings are ancient. most common drivers just do the right thing.  you weren't running some crazy 110MHz refresh rate or anything, right?
[18:16] <PHaLaNX11> no, the refresh rate was correct
[18:17] <PHaLaNX11> it was 85Hz as usual
[18:17] <spiel_mit_feuer> im thinking of going with compiz fusion or emerald over KDEs window manager
[18:17] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: I'm not an expert but that hardly seems possible to me.  you might try #hardware
[18:18] <moshe> hi, anyone knows a reason for this bug? http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg542065.html
[18:18] <PHaLaNX11> ok rickest thanks i will
[18:18] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: burning out your monitor is still possible for very lazy definitions of 'possible'.  Beyond that, burning up your monitor with bad xorg.conf settings is about 15 years old
[18:22] <PHaLaNX11> rickest: i searched the net to see if anyone experienced something like this, but didn't find any. so it shouldn't be so common, right.
[18:31] <rickest> PHaLaNX11: it's extremely uncommon.  it was an edge-case years ago, I'm not even sure it's possible anymore.  monitors that blow up and burns down houses would create some pretty bad press
[18:31] <bad_> hi
[18:34] <PHaLaNX11> yeah you're right
[18:34] <PHaLaNX11> thanks anyway
[18:42] <k350> Is it possible to hide teh panel permanetly?
[18:43] <bascule> as in remove it?
[18:44] <Nyad> Hi. whenever I do a search of my harddrive it seems the application that does the search when you press control+F in dolphin makes it's own cache which is huge. I had 50GB free before the search and I now have 11.7GB free
[18:45] <Nyad> how do I get my space back and how do I prevent this from happening in the future
[18:49] <LetsGo67> How do I fix error "cannot handle file 'libstdc++.so.6' with TLS data" in BasicLinux?
[18:51] <trenton> Hello, klipper hangs my system CPU=101% MEM=23% on kubuntu 8.04 64bit kde3.5.9. any solution please?
[18:51] <LetsGo67> Specs?
[18:52] <trenton> quad core opteron 4gig ram
[18:52] <LetsGo67> Sick.
[18:52] <LetsGo67> Umm...
[18:52] <LetsGo67> I don't use Kubuntu sorry.
[18:52] <trenton> thanks
[18:53] <LetsGo67> You're welcome.
[18:53] <trenton> hope you're going to start soon:)
[18:53] <LetsGo67> How do I fix error "cannot handle file 'libstdc++.so.6' with TLS data" in BasicLinux?
[18:57] <dilipgarg> anyone knows how to play embedded divx videos on kubuntu kde 3.5?
[18:57] <Nyad> Hi. whenever I do a search of my harddrive it seems the application that does the search when you press control+F in dolphin makes it's own cache which is huge. I had 50GB free before the search and I now have 11.7GB free. how do I get my space back and how do I prevent this from happening in the future
[19:07] <trenton> dilipgarg: mplayer?
[19:11] <Nyad> Hi. whenever I do a search of my harddrive it seems the application that does the search when you press control+F in dolphin makes it's own cache which is huge. I had 50GB free before the search and I now have 11.7GB free. how do I get my space back and how do I prevent this from happening in the future
[19:16] <dilipgarg> trenton, i tried with mplayer but the firefox doesnt recognize that mplayer at all.. there's only a grey patch at the video
[19:29] <ahmos> !sensors
[19:30] <dima> hi
[19:31] <incorrect> i did an upgdate today and got a new kernel
[19:31] <incorrect> now my nvidia driver is uber broken
[19:32] <jussi01> incorrect: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[19:32] <incorrect> it was already intstalled
[19:32] <dima> есть кто живой?
[19:32] <trappist> !ru
[19:32] <incorrect> this 2.6.24.2 kernel is very b0rk3d
[19:33] <Nyad> Hi. whenever I do a search of my harddrive it seems the application that does the search when you press control+F in dolphin makes it's own cache which is huge. I had 50GB free before the search and I now have 11.7GB free. how do I get my space back and how do I prevent this from happening in the future
[19:35] <carlinhos> Hi,need help to multiproto drivers working with HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-05-02.diff
[19:36] <ahmed> hi i want to install kubuntu 8.04 and make siparate partition for home dir to not to lose data when i reinstall it or upgrade it how i could make that  the partition i have for the whole system is 5 giga for system and home dir how much i take for home and how much for root
[19:36] <bbeck> Is there any way to save alsamixer settings?  Everytime I restart my computer I have to reset the mic so I can talk on skype.
[19:37] <bibstha> ahmed: my root is around 6GB
[19:38] <bibstha> and /home depends upon how much u store in it
[19:38] <Nyad> bbeck: I can suggest a long innefficient method but it would work
[19:38] <ahmed> bibstha:i install 7.10 on 5 giga
[19:38] <bibstha> ahmed: oh so u have only 5giga only?
[19:38] <bbeck> Nyad: thanks, go ahead
[19:38] <ahmed> bibstha:yes
[19:39] <bibstha> ahmed: humm thats not much, u can't get extra GB's for home? :D
[19:39] <Nyad> bbeck: if you can figure out how to configure alsa mixer via the command line you could put it in a script and tell that script to run everytime you log in
[19:40] <ahmed> bibstha: how much u think?
[19:40] <bibstha>  /home has the configs stored in it so probably atleast 1GB is necessary to store documents and pictures
[19:40] <bibstha> ahmed: i have like 25GB for /home and 25GB for /
[19:40] <bibstha> ahmed: and the applications i haev installed already takes 6GB in / so ..
[19:40] <carlinhos> how to apply diff. files to a source before make && make instal???
[19:41] <bibstha> !diff
[19:41] <rickest> patch original.c < patch
[19:42] <ahmed> bibstha: the proplem i already have another 30 giga ntfs for data aand another partition for xp
[19:42] <carlinhos> yes
[19:42] <ahmed> bibstha: they r full
[19:43] <carlinhos> i need to patch multiproto with HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-05-02.diff
[19:43] <bibstha> ahmed: ahmed then if u store minimum stuffs on /home then give around 1GB for /home and remaining 4GB for /?
[19:43] <bibstha> carlinhos: use patch command
[19:43] <ahmed> i do this when i formating partitions in installatiion is that true?
[19:43] <bibstha> i have very little knowledge but patch --help would help
[19:44] <bibstha> ahmed: have u made a backup?
[19:44] <bibstha> of your /home partition?
[19:44] <ahmed> bibstha: for what?
[19:44] <bibstha> ahmed: ur upgrading right?
[19:44] <Pepcok^PotLS> hi
[19:44] <carlinhos> is this correct  patch -d -p1 < HVR-4000-multiproto_plus-2008-05-02.diff
[19:44] <bibstha> ahmed: so u must already have some files in /home/username folder?
[19:45] <Pepcok^PotLS> Would you recomend me any good and easy ftp client?
[19:45] <ahmed> no i will install it from scratch
[19:45] <bibstha> ahmed: oh then yes, you can create partition during setup
[19:45] <bibstha> ahmed: no worries
[19:45] <ahmed> bibstha: thanks man u helped me
[19:45] <bibstha> ahmed: np
[19:45] <bibstha> carlinhos: u know which file u are patching?
[19:46] <bibstha> carlinhos: i only know how to patch a single file :( hehe
[19:46] <carlinhos> i don't really know
[19:46] <bibstha> carlinhos: i did patch "thefiletobepatched" "the.patchfile"
[19:46] <carlinhos> i never done this before
[19:46] <bibstha> carlinhos: oops sorry couldn't be of much help
[19:47] <carlinhos> ok thanks any way
[19:49] <bbeck> I think I figured it out, set your alsa settings then run: sudo alsactl store
[19:50] <Pepcok> do you think gFTP is good program for ftp?
[19:52] <Nyad> someone I know uses it and he likes it
[19:52] <genii> carlinhos: If the patch and the file to be patched are in same directory usually just:   patch -p0 <patchname.diff                             the -p# is used to strip off leading directory names usually so if in same then normally 0
[19:57] <justs0me> why isnt kunbuntu support as long as unbuntu /
[19:57] <genii> justs0me: It has mainly to do with the kde versions currently available
[19:57] <incorrect> something is very very broken with my poor laptop
[19:58] <genii> justs0me: kde4 is not mature enough yet to support and kde3 is not going to be developed by the kde people. So it's in between right now.
[20:00] <rav> hello. i'm using Nvidia drivers for my graphics card and they work very well. but the drivers don't activate at boot, so i get an ugly low resolution kdm login page, and once i login, everything works well. Is there a way to make the kdm login page use the drivers?
[20:01] <incorrect> can the alternative desktop install cd create encrypted partitions?
[20:02] <justs0me> i like the 3.5 KDE but i would like somthing supported for a while, so can i install unbuntu and do apt-get install kde?
[20:02] <justs0me> yeah i tried kde4 it sucked
[20:02] <justs0me> im not a developer though
[20:02] <incorrect> justs0me: wait for 4.1
[20:02] <incorrect> justs0me: i am
[20:03] <incorrect> kde 4.0 is a toy
[20:03] <incorrect> not for everyday work
[20:03] <justs0me> im not dising KDE4, its just not for me
[20:03] <justs0me> when should kde4.1 be out /
[20:04] <genii> justs0me: You can install kubuntu from regular ubuntu with install of package  kubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <incorrect> well people here often say how good the development branch is right now
[20:04] <incorrect> i think its about 3 months
[20:04] <incorrect> genii: yes you can, but you are better off install from a server cd imho
[20:05] <incorrect> i really should try the alternative install cd
[20:05] <justs0me> yikes i need it a good kde system with support by august
[20:05] <incorrect> justs0me: need?
[20:05] <spiel_mit_feuer> incorrect, do you have the alternative cd?
[20:05] <justs0me> genii: are there any downsides to doing this method
[20:05] <justs0me> incorrect: school
[20:05] <incorrect> i am downloading altnerative now
[20:06] <incorrect> justs0me: ok here is my advise, stick with something stable
[20:06] <justs0me> i used fedora but fedora9 comes with kde4 and i dont like that, also it only have year max support
[20:06] <justs0me> yea
[20:06] <incorrect> don't piss around with kde4 until its more mature
[20:06] <justs0me> i have a crappy dv9000z and it seems to do better with uptodate distros though ?
[20:06] <incorrect> you will get more work done
[20:06] <justs0me> i know
[20:06] <incorrect> justs0me: stick with 3.5
[20:07] <incorrect> don't pine after the latest
[20:07] <incorrect> it will only bring you pain
[20:07] <trappist> unless it's firefox
[20:07] <trappist> and even then...
[20:07] <incorrect> trappist: nah i like firefox 2 right now
[20:07] <Nyad> justs0me: what about kde 4.05?
[20:07] <incorrect> ff3 has issues with some sites i use
[20:07] <justs0me> whats the matter with firefox3?
[20:07] <justs0me> Nyad: dunno if ive tried that
[20:07] <trappist> ff3 has issues with google browser sync doesn't support it
[20:07] <incorrect> justs0me: some admin tools i have it does not work with
[20:07] <trappist> yet
[20:08] <justs0me> i kinda prefer kde3.5
[20:08] <justs0me> oh
[20:08] <incorrect> trappist: you tried the zimbra admin tools?
[20:08] <incorrect> ff3 doesn't worth with that either
[20:08] <trappist> incorrect: I don't think I've heard of em
[20:08] <genii> incorrect: To answer your question, yes the alternate can do encrypted partitions.
[20:08] <incorrect> trappist: its a nice email system
[20:08] <incorrect> thank you genii :)
[20:08] <trappist> incorrect: website?
[20:09] <Nyad> what's the difference between kubuntu server and desktop ?
[20:09] <incorrect> trappist: zimbra.org probably
[20:09] <justs0me> would unbuntu be considered stable?
[20:09] <trappist> I don't think there's such a thing as kubuntu server
[20:09] <justs0me> never cared for the debian based systems
[20:09] <justs0me> thus far
[20:09] <incorrect> justs0me: depends what you mean by stable
[20:09] <Nyad> what's the difference between ubuntu server and desktop ?
[20:09] <incorrect> i would not use an rpm based system
[20:10] <genii> justs0me: When you have both gnome and kde, the menus can get confusing. Also you can't run gnome GUI apps from inside Konsole or KDE apps from within gnome-terminal. Otherwise no real downside.
[20:10] <incorrect> i just closed my doors on my game hosting service
[20:10] <incorrect> i was doing really well, 30k players a month
[20:10] <incorrect> but i would rather have the servers back and not pay the hosting fee
[20:11] <incorrect> so ubuntu was stable enough for that
[20:11] <justs0me> oh
[20:11] <incorrect> 0 down time in 6 months
[20:11] <trappist> incorrect: zimbra (.com) looks nice
[20:11] <incorrect> even upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[20:12] <justs0me> whats a stable rpm based system ?
[20:12] <_dennister> trappist: long time no see
[20:12] <incorrect> justs0me: centos, redhat, suse
[20:12] <genii> Nyad: Desktop has ..er.. a desktop (graphical interface). server comes only with command-line interface. Server version has Apache Mysql PHP preconfigured. Regular desktop does not. Server version can address more than 3.2Gb RAM. Regular i386 desktop cannot. Server version has been tweaked for multiuser.
[20:12] <rickest> Nyad: the only difference between ALL the *buntus is what they install the first time by default
[20:12] <justs0me> incorrect: updated through the terminal ?
[20:12] <incorrect> ssh
[20:12] <incorrect> screen and ssh
[20:12] <rickest> ergo, you can install kubuntu and switch to ubuntu, or server then switch to kubuntu, etc.  It's just the default install package list
[20:12] <justs0me> ah
[20:12] <incorrect> did it remotely
[20:13] <justs0me> nice
[20:13] <incorrect> if you are careful with any linux system it will be stable
[20:13] <incorrect> if you are careless the most stable will not be
[20:13] <_dennister> genii: hi there...think i solved the hardware problem: thought it might be the ide controller, so swapped the large daughterboard of this compaq and linux started working very nicely
[20:13] <justs0me> yeah, im still running fc6 fine on a ollldddd laptop never any problems but slow
[20:13] <genii> _dennister: Great :) I figured it was something hardware
[20:14] <_dennister> yep...luckily i had another compaq model identical to this one
[20:14] <incorrect> justs0me: if you want a desktop OS then here is my advise, install the standard distro, install the apps you need, then leave it alone
[20:14] <justs0me> right
[20:14] <incorrect> do not waste your time, changing from kde to gnome to xde thingy and back
[20:14] <_dennister> now my biggest issue is that i went for the version upgrade to hardy...and it got stuck at 79% about an hour ago
[20:15] <_dennister> won't budge
[20:15] <incorrect> justs0me: also, remember to backup your documents
[20:16] <_dennister> anyone have to abort a version upgrade to hardy, and successfully recovered?
[20:16] <justs0me> whats the best/easyiest way to tranfer files on a LAN?
[20:16] <incorrect> justs0me: that is a strange question
[20:17] <justs0me> incorrect: why is that ?
[20:17] <incorrect> between what?
[20:17] <justs0me> desktops
[20:17] <incorrect> of
[20:17] <Nyad> genii: are you sure that kubuntu can't use all my ram? it says I have 4GB which is true, windows only picks up 3GB.
[20:17] <justs0me> just files
[20:17] <incorrect> ftp, scp, sftp, samba
[20:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> does someone have a problem using samba?
[20:18] <spiel_mit_feuer> i had some issues with it i managed to work out
[20:18] <sent_inel> no
[20:18] <dorian_> hi
[20:18] <dorian_> what is the equivalent of microsoft access in open office?
[20:19] <spiel_mit_feuer> does anyone know a good way of streaming media via the windows format so i can access my music from my xbox?
[20:19] <dorian_> doesn't media center do? that
[20:19] <captaincommando> sound randomly cuts out and the only way to get it back is to reboot the pc
[20:19] <trappist> dorian_: in staroffice, the parent project, it's called adabas, but I'm not sure if openoffice has it.
[20:19] <dorian_> aha thank you checking out now
[20:20] <rickest> Nyad: windows xp cannot use more than 3gb
[20:20] <spiel_mit_feuer> staroffice.. openoffice, koffice, whats the difference?
[20:20] <rickest> dorian_: oocalc is part of OpenOffice, too
[20:20] <trappist> justs0me: I recommend scp
[20:21] <rickest> justs0me: or sync for incremental xfersw
[20:21] <trappist> spiel_mit_feuer: staroffice is sun's closed-source suite, which spun off openoffice.  koffice is kde's office suite.
[20:21] <captaincommando> could anyone have an idea as to why the sound randomly cuts out on my desktop and the only way to get it back is to reboot the pc?
[20:21] <dorian_> thank you, oocalc then
[20:22] <trappist> dorian_: oocalc is a spreadsheet (think Excel, not Access)
[20:22] <dorian_> aaa but i want access
[20:22] <dorian_> .mdb
[20:23] <rickest> oh right, thanks trappist
[20:23] <captaincommando> open office database mabey?
[20:23] <spiel_mit_feuer> so which is better? koffice or openoffice as far as a windows office replacement goes?
[20:23] <trappist> !info openoffice.org-base
[20:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> !kde4
[20:24] <trappist> dorian_: looks like it comes with a "driver" for .mdb files
[20:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> !info kde4
[20:24] <spiel_mit_feuer> installed size 32kb?
[20:24] <trappist> dorian_: if you install mdbtools, that is
[20:24] <jussi01> spiel_mit_feuer: its a meta package
[20:24] <dorian_> aaa ook
[20:24] <blajumper> where does a secret key of a public/secret-gpg-key generated by kgpg get saved?
[20:25] <blajumper> in ~/.gnupg probably?
[20:25] <trappist> blajumper: that's the first place I'd look
[20:25] <blajumper> and how would the file look like?
[20:25] <jussi01> spiel_mit_feuer: just a package that has a whole lot of other packages as dependencies
[20:25] <blajumper> is secring.gpg something related to it or not?
[20:25] <spiel_mit_feuer> aah.. so if i typed sudo aptitude install kde4, how much hard drive consumption would i be looking at in total?
[20:26] <blajumper> I have no idea how I should be able to notice that secret key, I always played with the public one but never had the need to put on my fingers on the secret thing
[20:26] <trappist> blajumper: not sure, look at the timestamp and see if it corresponds with when you generated your key
[20:26] <blajumper> trappist can't remember that :)
[20:26] <blajumper> btw how can I find out the timestamp on console?
[20:26] <blajumper> ah stat probably... /me tests
[20:27] <trappist> blajumper: ls -l
[20:27] <blajumper> I have installed KGPG the same day I generated the key trappist
[20:27] <blajumper> so it could also be some config file
[20:27] <blajumper> the timestamp doesn't really give me any evidence here :/
[20:27] <trappist> blajumper: the "file" util says it's a "PHP key security ring" - I think that's it
[20:27] <trappist> *PGP
[20:28] <blajumper> trappist secring.gpg sounds pretty much like it would be a pgp security ring =P
[20:28] <ahmos> where i can find lm_sensors configuration file
[20:28] <blajumper> yep file util says that aswell
[20:29] <blajumper> so trappist can I be more or less sure that secring.gpg and pubring.gpg are my keys?
[20:29] <blajumper> and I won't need any other files?
[20:29] <dorian_> ye it worked!
[20:29] <dorian_> mdbtools man
[20:29] <blajumper> because there's also some pubring.kbx file
[20:29] <trappist> blajumper: I'm 63% sure the first statement is correct, and 100% sure the second statement is wrong
[20:30] <trappist> blajumper: one or more of the other files will have info like which keys are trusted
[20:30] <trappist> other people's keys, etc.
[20:30] <blajumper> ah
[20:30] <blajumper> that's not important
[20:30] <blajumper> I only want my own key
[20:31] <blajumper> I don't care about those trust settings of gpg... I can easily tell gpg that again
[20:32] <trappist> blajumper: well if nobody in here knows more than I do about gpg, you're in the wrong channel :) you might try #gpg or #gnupg
[20:32] <trappist> or maybe the docs, or google
[20:33] <trappist> you know, as a last resort ;)
[20:44] <ahmos> !xsensors
[20:44] <genii> back
[20:46] <rickest> !lsensors
[20:46] <genii> !info lmsensors
[20:47] <genii> Hmm
[20:47] <phitoo> Hola everyone! I am trying my hand at KDE4. Is there a way to have a different background on each desktop? I can't seem to do it from the Desktop Settings from the right click menu.
[20:47] <powertool08> genii: lm-sensors
[20:48] <genii> rickest: What powertool08 said
[20:48] <rickest> :)
[21:05] <tempest_> ive got a problem on my 2nd computer i can type to login but after it boots up no keyboard
[21:09] <tempest_> nevermind fixed it  it was just slow keys turned on
[21:11] <dennister> ok ppl, what can i do about this broken version upgrade? always hangs at generating locales
[21:12] <dennister> genii: ? u got any ideas?
[21:13] <genii> dennister: Choose default US locale during install then add others like Canada later after system is up
[21:13] <dennister> ok
[21:16] <markit> any channel fro Intrepid?
[21:17] <markit> after upgrade, X does not start anymore
[21:17] <genii> markit: #ubuntu+1
[21:17] <markit> genii: thanks
[21:18] <genii> markit: There is no support for unreleased versions, so they likely won't assist you much in there. But thats the channel for Intrepid
[21:18] <markit> genii: they will not assist, but hope will help! :)
[21:20] <dedi_> someone knows how to create a working ubuntu-modules for a custom kernel? (wiki dont work)
[21:21] <genii> dedi_: Normally you do something like: sudo make modules                    in the same dir you did the make for the kernel
[21:23] <genii> dedi_: Then something like: sudo make modules install                     which should take a while. Then you need update of module lists with: sudo depmod -a
[21:24] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[21:27] <dennister> BluesKaj: hi there :)
[21:27] <BluesKaj> hi dennister , hows things ?
[21:28] <dennister> genii: just changing the entries in sources.list to the american ones doesn't help me when things have already been downloaded, badly, and won't install
[21:28] <dennister> BluesKaj: not good i'm afraid...i thought the canadian archives would've been fixed by now, but no........
[21:29] <dennister> how do I change the locale in console?
[21:29] <genii> dennister: locales does not mean the location of the repository you are using. locale means what language and location your computer wants to use normally. Like Canada and British English   for instance
[21:29] <BluesKaj> dennister:  I got fed up and reveryted Gutsy, but it only solved half my probs :)
[21:30] <genii> dennister: There have been a lot of problems for people installing when the default locale is not US and US English
[21:31] <dennister> genii: yes, i realize that, so where do I change the locale? changing sources is only one small part
[21:31] <paoligno> hi. i want to buy this notebook: SONY SZ71E/B T7250 2GB 160GB DL 13.3" VHP      . how can i know if it's fully compatible with kubuntu?
[21:31] <dennister> BluesKaj: i did that for awhile, too, and found out a gutsy install, then version upgrade, *usually* works better for me than a clean install
[21:32] <dennister> but not this time :(
[21:32] <genii> dennister: Make sure package console-setup is in. Then:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[21:33] <dennister> genii: sudo dpkg --reconfigure console-setup...is that what you mean to type?
[21:33] <BluesKaj> dennister:  my last upgrade was an internet one and it went fine , but I got "nailed" by a kernel upgrade about a week ago ...totally screwed X and samba
[21:33] <Githzerai> BluesKaj: there's been another kernel update today.... :)
[21:34] <BluesKaj> Githzerai:  I've got adept notifier turned off :)
[21:35] <dedi_> genii: ah ok, seems to do something :)
[21:35] <genii> dennister: No, I meant to type dpkg-reconfigure, which is what I did type :)
[21:35] <Githzerai> BluesKaj: I was just wondering if you would fall twice :D ;)
[21:35] <dennister> ok doke...will i get an option to change the locale if i do that?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> heh, Githzerai , took me twice to realize that kernel upgrades may not be my friend :)
[21:37] <genii> dennister: It will run you through a series of questions on how to configure the console. And then the system installer later looks at this for a hint of where you are when it tries to decide what sort of setup to go with
[21:37] <dennister> genii: thx
[21:38] <BluesKaj> hey genii , how goes it ?
[21:40] <dennister> genii: ok tried it, and was told console-setup was broken or not installed yet...
[21:41] <dennister> can't do the dpkg --configure console-setup because of depenedency issues, and doiing dpkg --configure -a will start the locales generation again, right away, and then hang
[21:41] <dennister> gonna try and look in var/cache/apt...for partials...things that I could delete so it'll be downloaded again
[21:44] <dennister> not working for me either...too many in archives, zipping by too fast
[21:44] <dennister> at this rate i'm ready to start over :(
[21:50] <dwidmann> remove the problem package(s), then do an apt-get -f install, then reinstall the problem package(s)?
[21:57] <paoligno> well,  SONY SZ71E/B T7250 2GB 160GB DL 13.3" VHP    is not listed in the urls which list tested laptops. how can i proceed in order to see if i can buy it ? thnks
[21:58] <genii>  I need to logoff now in order to get to my other workplace on time. I'll return online in about 45 minutes (possibly less)
[22:01] <force> I have HP laptop with kubuntu hardy  and i can't connect to Router wireless using WEP encryption (even without encryption) and i have wireless 3945BG with Knetworkmanager but i can't search for any network or connect to hide network, i use also WICD and othr tools but not working, is there any solution for this way?
[22:04] <justs0me> is ir recomended (no errors) to do a distro version update through apt-get?
[22:05] <justs0me> ir=it*
[22:07] <force> i try it but there is nothing to solve this issue
[22:08] <rickest> justs0me: for the cleanest, absolutely no-cruft system, no. but many of us do without any problems at all, yes
[22:08] <justs0me> rickest: oh
[22:09] <justs0me> force: u have dv9000t series?
[22:09] <rickest> justs0me: for example, if apache used to use /etc/apache and the latest version uses /etc/apache2, nothing will ever get rid of /etc/apache unless you do it manually. but there's really not much of that
[22:09] <force> justs0me: yes Pavilion dv2000
[22:10] <justs0me> rickest: oh
[22:10] <justs0me> force: does the machine ever lock up ?
[22:11] <rickest> justs0me: and even most of those issues get resolved since apt-get knows it's doing an upgrade
[22:11] <justs0me> oh
[22:11] <justs0me> rickest: i use fc and they never recommend doing it that way
[22:11] <justs0me> rickest: but i need somthing for stable for my school lappy
[22:12] <justs0me> rickest: but somthing that works, which (k)ubuntu  seems to to
[22:12] <justs0me> do
[22:12] <justs0me> and im not a fan of kde4
[22:12] <force> justs0me: Nope
[22:13] <cai> testing
[22:13] <mefistofele> I hope kde4 gets those nvidia problems fixed soon
[22:14] <force> justs0me: do you have solution for this issue?
[22:14] <justs0me> force: ope
[22:14] <justs0me> force: nope*
[22:15] <rickest> justs0me: I've done it through 2 versions on 2 boxes, 3 versions on another. no problems here, I'd give it a try
[22:15] <justs0me> rickest: lol wow
[22:16] <force> any one can help about this issue?
[22:16] <force> for intel wireless 3945BG?
[22:18] <mefistofele> force: can you paste the output of /sbin/iwconfig
[22:18] <paoligno> strange question: i want to test how is my screen if reduced from 15'' to 13.3'' . how can i do ?
[22:19] <force> mefistofele: lo        no wireless extensions.
[22:19] <force> mefistofele: eth0      no wireless extensions.
[22:20] <mefistofele> force: do pastes into http://paste.ubuntu.com next time plz
[22:20] <force> mefistofele:  wmaster0  no wireless extensions.
[22:20] <force> ok
[22:21] <edgar_> hola alguien podria
[22:21] <edgar_> ayudarme
[22:21] <edgar_> el comando en consola para entrar repositorios
[22:22] <force> mefistofele: i do it
[22:22] <mefistofele> force: could you also paste /sbin/ifconfig ?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> BBL... gotta go for a few hrs
[22:22] <force> ok
[22:22] <mefistofele> force: and the output of lsmod
[22:23] <mefistofele> force: and make me a sandwich
[22:23] <force> mefistofele: Done
[22:23] <force> mefistofele: :)
[22:24] <force> mefistofele: sandwich with hotdog ? :P
[22:24] <mefistofele> we'll see after I get a look at lsmod
[22:26] <force> mefistofele: done
[22:27] <mefistofele> force: what's the paste url?
[22:28] <force> mefistofele: 3 urls or i have to do 3 step with one url?
[22:30] <mefistofele> force: just paste everything into the one with some space inbetween things and give the url of that one
[22:31] <sourcemaker> after upgrading my system to kde4 rc1... no sound is present
[22:31] <force> mefistofele: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27852/
[22:32] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: I had that problem too... you need to go into the full mixer and turn some things up.  Unless... are you getting any error messages about sound device?
[22:33] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: there is a xine error
[22:33] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: what does it say
[22:33] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: and in phonon... the device is grey
[22:33] <mefistofele> force: well, that's good news - it means your wireless device is working.
[22:34] <mefistofele> force: turn WEP off on your router for now... what's the router ssid btw?
[22:34] <force> mefistofele: w1 is hide (Broadcats is off)
[22:34] <mefistofele> has anyone been on gentoo lately?
[22:35] <mefistofele> mefistofele: so the ssid is w1?
[22:35] <force> mefistofele: yup
[22:36] <mefistofele> mefistofele: ok, do /sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid w1  and paste the output (into the channel here if it's 2 lines or less, into paste.ubuntu if longer)
[22:36] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[22:36] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: that's not a good answer.  :/  have you rebooted since this upgrade?
[22:37] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: yes I have...
[22:37] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: the new kernel has been installed tpp
[22:37] <sourcemaker> too
[22:37] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: is that so.... ok
[22:38] <force> mefistofele: with "sudo" or not
[22:38] <mefistofele> force: with
[22:38] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: are you in kde4 now or kde3.5?
[22:39] <sourcemaker> mefistofele:  I am using kde 4rc1
[22:39] <force> mefistofele:
[22:39] <force> force@hpSuper:~$ sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid w1
[22:39] <force> force@hpSuper:~$
[22:39] <sourcemaker> mefistofele:  installed today
[22:39] <mefistofele> force: ok now paste.ubu the output of iwconfig and ifconfig again
[22:39] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: or better to say... upgraded today from 4.1b2 to 4.1rc2
[22:39] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: can you log into kde 3.t for a second?
[22:40] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: only because I'm in that at the moment and will be easier for me ;)
[22:40] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: I think this has more to do with the kernel upgrade than the kde upgrade but want to make sure
[22:41] <force> mefistofele: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27855/
[22:42] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: done... no sound present
[22:42] <mefistofele> force: ok, trying doing sudo dhclient wlan0
[22:44] <force> mefistofele: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27856/
[22:44] <force> mefistofele: I'm already connect to router by cable
[22:45] <kubuntu> geia se olous!
[22:45] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: it seems to be a kernel related problem... that's nice :-)
[22:45] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: yeah... not sure what do to htere
[22:45] <kubuntu> mipos kserei
[22:45] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: downgrade and use the old one
[22:46] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: oh well that doesn't sound like what the cool kids would do
[22:46] <mefistofele> force: ok, have you been able to connect to this router wirelessly with any other devices?
[22:47] <farigola> hello
[22:48] <force> mefistofele: yeah with many devices before, i have vista before on this laptop and i can connect to router by wireless
[22:48] <force> mefistofele: only with kubunu i can't connect to router
[22:49] <mefistofele> force: oh, I just took a second look at the iwconfig output and yeah it doesn't seem to be connecting at all. ok
[22:49] <mefistofele> hmmm 1 sec
[22:50] <force> mefistofele: wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet ( encapsulation should be another protocol?)
[22:54] <mefistofele> force: no that's ok.  can you paste me the output of  tail -300 /var/log/messages (might need sudo... forget)
[22:56] <sourcemaker> on kde4... there are a lof of icons not visible... (in kickoff and koqueror)... question mark icons... only... what's wrong?
[22:56] <mefistofele> force: also dmesg
[22:56] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: I've had the same thing... I think it's what we have to deal with using prerelease software (kinda badly packaged too)
[22:57] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: did you solve the problem? or still remains?
[22:57] <mefistofele> sourcemaker: I just let it go
[22:57] <sourcemaker> mefistofele: okay
[22:58] <k350> Hi, How can I put "logout" on the desktop?
[22:58] <k350> I mean , I want a logout icon on the desktop...
[22:59] <force> mefistofele: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27858/
[23:03] <mefistofele> force: arggh... ok, what dooes iwlist say?
[23:05] <force> mefistofele: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27859/
[23:06] <mefistofele> force: oh, sorry... I meant  iwlist wlan0 scanning
[23:08] <force> mefistofele: wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[23:09] <mefistofele> force: well isn't that a son of a bitch
[23:09] <mefistofele> now we're gettin somewhere
[23:10] <force> mefistofele: Really I'm tired with this wireless :(
[23:13] <vertic23_> hey, how can I check what kind of ram I need in my PC?
[23:13] <mefistofele> force: are you sure you have 3945bg?
[23:13] <vertic23_> I got a P III
[23:13] <vertic23_> Coppermine
[23:14] <mefistofele> vertic23_: probably need like PC133 DIMMS or something like that
[23:14] <vertic23_> SD or DDR that would be?
[23:14] <mefistofele> SD
[23:15] <vertic23_> okay, kubuntu runs quite well on this machine
[23:15] <vertic23_> 256 mb only, but it's "ok"!
[23:16] <force> mefistofele: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945BG, yeah sure 100%
[23:16] <mefistofele> hmm oookay
[23:17] <mefistofele> force: well, try this then...  sudo modprobe ipw3945
[23:19] <force> mefistofele: FATAL: Module ipw3945 not found.
[23:22] <jereme> I can't seem to do dual display on kde3 with RandR without manually running xrandr every time I login...  I am using the radeon driver...  Anyone get this to work?
[23:24] <pc_> hello is it possible to load windows 98 on Kubutu?
[23:24] <jereme> pc_: sure, using VirtualBox or vmware
[23:24] <jereme> pc_: or any other virtualization software
[23:24] <pc_> on a older pc?
[23:25] <jereme> well virtualization won't work super great on an old PC, but how old are you talking?
[23:25] <mefistofele> force: do you still have network manager running?
[23:25] <force> mefistofele: yeah it is in systry
[23:26] <mefistofele> force: could you close it for a minute?
[23:26] <pc_> 900mhz
[23:26] <jereme> pc_: P4?
[23:26] <pc_> no
[23:26] <jereme> amd?
[23:27] <force> mefistofele: i close it now
[23:27] <pc_> no intel celeron
[23:27] <jereme> well, it could probably work... just not very fast
[23:27] <jereme> mmm celery
[23:27] <mefistofele> force: try doing iwlist wlan0 scanning again
[23:27] <jereme> shoot you could over clock that thing to 2GHz ;)
[23:27] <pc_> I want to do this as an experiment
[23:27] <jereme> what is your objective?
[23:27] <pc_> Another question
[23:28] <force> mefistofele: wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[23:28] <mefistofele> ahhhh god dammit
[23:29] <pc_> I have a amd 64bit Gateway I was wondering would I be able to put on win 98SE? Then install Kubuntu on that?
[23:29] <vertic23_> why would one do that?
[23:29] <mefistofele> hey, 98 was a good os
[23:29] <force> mefistofele: by the way wlan0 assigned ip 169.254.6.152
[23:29] <pc_> well I had xp and a virus done it in
[23:30] <vertic23_> so..?
[23:30] <mefistofele> pc_: you should be able to do that
[23:30] <force> mefistofele: default ip
[23:30] <mefistofele> force: well, it got one at elast
[23:30] <jereme> win98 on a 64-bit proc probably won't happen
[23:30] <pc_> I had restore disks but none of them work anymore
[23:30] <jereme> or it would be forced into 32-bit if that's even possible
[23:31] <vertic23_> I think it is, jereme
[23:31] <mefistofele> pc_: do you have more than 4 gigs of ram?
[23:31] <pc_> I think it probably wouldn't work
[23:31] <vertic23_> I mean on all "modern" CPUs you can do that
[23:31] <jereme> but when you say "put win98 on kubuntu" or "put kubuntu on win98" I'm not sure what you mean...
[23:31] <pc_> no I have 2 on that machine
[23:31] <vertic23_> but I think the kernel won't support that new CPUs
[23:31] <jereme> because you can dual boot, do virtualization,
[23:31] <jereme> use a liveCD
[23:31] <EnMasse187> hi, are there any working nintendo ds emulators for linux, i've heard desmume works, it needs gtk, i installed it and try to run it but on startup it closes...
[23:31] <mefistofele> pc_: also, it might not support all your hardware
[23:31] <vertic23_> just put in a kubuntu,
[23:31] <mefistofele> vertic23_: it's still x86.
[23:31] <vertic23_> and then be happy
[23:32] <vertic23_> mefistofele: but what about all the other drivers nobody wrote...
[23:33] <pc_> See here the thing I need some form of windows to run magic Jack voip telephone but I also want Kubuntu I like it
[23:33] <vertic23_> magic jack voip?
[23:33] <vertic23_> what's that?
[23:33] <mefistofele> yeah... I wonder if sata is even supported at all
[23:33] <vertic23_> don't think so ^^
[23:34] <pc_> It is a box that plugs into the usb port and allows me to make phone calls but it need windows to do this
[23:34] <vertic23_> how about ebay? ^^
[23:34] <vertic23_> and why win98 anyways?!
[23:34] <vertic23_> win2k is a 1000 times better idea
[23:35] <jereme> sata in 98?
[23:35] <jereme> there is no sata in 98
[23:35] <jereme> there's just no way
[23:35] <force> mefistofele: i will try again with wlan but i should disconnectd from lan to see again. Thanks
[23:35] <vertic23_> ...we can be happy that USB works :P somehow
[23:35] <jereme> ata, yes, sata, nohaps
[23:35] <pc_> Right now I have Kubuntu it the amd 64bit gateway... And I have win 98SE on disk from the old days
[23:35] <jereme> USB works'ish
[23:35] <mefistofele> pc_: you could also run windows via a virtual machine for your phone
[23:35] <jereme> back in '98 we still called it "plug-n-pray"
[23:35] <vertic23_> lmao - that's what I meant
[23:36] <pc_> yes Jeremy your right
[23:36] <vertic23_> hehe, didn't know that one
[23:36] <vertic23_> will write it onto my wall
[23:36] <pc_> is virtual machine linus based?
[23:36] <jereme> hehe
[23:36] <vertic23_> linus torvald?
[23:36] <jereme> pc_, a virtual machine can be linux based
[23:36] <vertic23_> pc_: try it...
[23:36] <mefistofele> pc_: yea, you could use qemu or ... what the hell is the name of that really popular one
[23:36] <jereme> pc_: for example, Sun's free VirtualBox product runs on Linux, Windows and OS X (possibly more to...)
[23:37] <vertic23_> can USB devices be passed through?
[23:37] <jereme> as does vmware
[23:37] <vertic23_> jereme:
[23:37] <kwuch> hello, rename of files is impossible, after a migration from gnome to kde. ä ö ü are replaced by ? . How can i fix this?
[23:37] <jereme> you're more likely to have usb success if you install kubuntu and run 98 in a VM than the other way around
[23:37] <vertic23_> yes, jereme - that was my question
[23:37] <jereme> I'm willing to bet that virtualbox, vwmare and pals won't run on 98
[23:37] <vertic23_> I will do that soon - with "linux" + "windows"
[23:37] <jereme> so running a win98 VM within linux is the better option
[23:38] <vertic23_> of course that way...
[23:38] <vertic23_> win98 as main os would be... hehe
[23:38] <jereme> plus it keeps the yucky winders contained
[23:38] <vertic23_> win98 as main OS was cool when win95 was "in"
[23:38] <pc_> I prefer running 98 within Kubuntu
[23:39] <vertic23_> of course you do ;)
[23:39] <pc_> So do you think I can do this?
[23:39] <vertic23_> worth a try!
[23:39] <vertic23_> chances are not bad
[23:39] <jereme> pc_: I think the only think that might go wrong is it might be a little sluggish
[23:39] <pc_> Is vmware free?
[23:39] <jereme> vmware is free, and so is virtualbox
[23:40] <vertic23_> I don't like virtualbox because it's java
[23:40] <jereme> classist
[23:40] <pc_> so the better is vmware?
[23:40] <jereme> </programming joke>
[23:40] <vertic23_> hehe
[23:40] <vertic23_> I was always good with vmware - I like it...
[23:40] <jereme> pc_: vmware has been in the game a long time
[23:41] <vertic23_> my first try with virtualbox was not so ....lucky
[23:41] <jereme> I've had great luck with virtualbox
[23:41] <pc_> Can I get it through synaptic?
[23:41] <jereme> but it's hard to argue with vmware being the best free option
[23:41] <vertic23_> well - you're a smart programmer ;)
[23:41] <jereme> there are no vmware packages... just download it from their site
[23:41] <jereme> navigating to the free version can be somewhat tricky
[23:41] <jereme> let me find it
[23:42] <jereme> damn they moved it again
[23:42] <jereme> this might take a second
[23:42] <pc_> ok take your time
[23:43] <vertic23_> hehe, like always... I love all those download sites - especially linux programs ...NO - not ONE download (the popular one which everybody wants) is just on top - no you can choose between CSV / beta, unstable - and in between is the one everybody wants :P
[23:43] <jereme> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[23:43] <jereme> well in the case of vmware, you choose from the 50 different enterprise version that cost money
[23:43] <jereme> and the tiny free version hidden somewhere within
[23:43] <jereme> it's like playing "Where's Waldo"
[23:44] <vertic23_> yeah - I forgot the commercial sites ;)
[23:44] <vertic23_> hehe, love him ^^
[23:44] <vertic23_> still got three books here
[23:44] <vertic23_> ;P
[23:45] <jereme> where's the vmware server console now on their site?
[23:45] <gvv> #kubuntu-es
[23:46] <jereme> they should make their site harder to browse
[23:46] <jereme> then I could just poke myself in the eye instead of looking for their products
[23:46] <pc_> thanks Jeremy!  Will it be difficult to do?
[23:47] <jereme> poking me in the eye?  no it's easy
[23:47] <jereme> just stick out your finger
[23:47] <jereme> as for vmware, the hardest part is installing it
[23:47] <jereme> it's easy after that
[23:47] <pc_> thanks jereme
[23:48] <jereme> you'll want the "VMWare Server for Linux" Binary (.tar.gz) and "VMWare Server Linux client package" which contains vmware-server-console which is how you connect to vmware server
[23:48] <jereme> ah crap, I've got a bug to fix over here, bbiab
[23:50] <gvv> hi
[23:51] <gvv> how are you??
[23:57] <force> back
[23:58] <force> mefistofele: still can't connect. how can i disable this driver and install new one from intel for linux platform ?