[00:11] <ebil> Hi I'm having an issue with the dvd ripping function of mythDVD
[00:12] <ebil> basically, if I start an ISO rip, it just flashes the status screen then about 2 seconds later says "No job"
[00:12] <ebil> and dies
[00:40] <ebil> now, is there any way to tell it to rip to a specific directory? (I can set the temp folder, but not the dest folder, it defaults to my mythvideo folder, which is not what I want because I have a 1.2TB raid array on the network which is where I'd rather it dropped things
[00:42] <squish102> change your mythvideo dir to your raid array?
[00:42] <ebil> here's the problem
[00:42] <ebil> the mythvideo dir is /mnt/videos
[00:42] <ebil> then I mount all the different video dirs on the raid array IN that dir
[00:43] <ebil> so, I have /mnt/videos/movies /mnt/videos/anime and would want to add /mnt/videos/dvdrips
[00:44] <squish102> i see your [problem
[00:45] <squish102> nothing a little 'mv' wouldnt fix.. poor workaround, i know
[00:47] <tgm4883_laptop> 8.04.1 torrents are up
[00:55] <squish102> is there a way i can download required patches to go from 7.10 to 8.04 without applying them yet?
[00:56] <squish102> i'm still recording some stuff tonight
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> patches?
[01:00] <darthanubis> patches?
[01:01] <squish102> i mean the upgrade
[01:01] <squish102> all the required downloads to go from 7.10 to 8.04 and get ready to apply them
[01:02] <darthanubis> you need to read up on how to upgrade the OS
[01:03] <squish102> thanks
[01:05] <astro_> is anyone here using a microsoft mce keyboard with the current mythbuntu?
[01:08] <darthanubis> no
[01:08] <darthanubis> but Iam using a ms digi keyboard with ubuntu
[01:08] <astro_> did you use mod_mce ?
[01:08] <darthanubis> not that I'm aware
[01:08] <darthanubis> I did not do anything differnt
[01:09] <darthanubis> just configured it via the gui
[01:09] <darthanubis> the "keyboard" menu
[01:09] <astro_> is it a wireless ir keyboard?
[01:12] <darthanubis> no
[01:12] <darthanubis> my wireless joint is Logitech
[01:12] <darthanubis> works like a charm
[01:13] <astro_> in mythbuntu?
[01:13] <astro_> ir or bluetooth?
[01:15] <darthanubis> ir
[01:15] <darthanubis> well my ubuntu desktop that I use as a myth box
[01:15] <darthanubis> the ir reciever is usb/serial
[01:15] <darthanubis> my remote is ir via the tv tuner
[01:15] <astro_> i guess my problem is mythbuntu is pretty stripped down
[01:16] <darthanubis> install the mythuntu command center
[01:16] <astro_> so i gotta get all the source and stuff to complie the module for this ms keyboard
[01:16] <darthanubis> I doubt that
[01:16] <astro_> whats command center
[01:17] <ebil> squish102, yeah, I will probably just end up mv'ing them in the end. cron is a wonderful tool :)
[01:18] <darthanubis> astro_, search synaptic for apps I drop;)
[01:23] <cr3ol> hello all
[01:24] <cr3ol> I am a noob to mythtv but i am having a couple of problems
[01:24] <cr3ol> first lirc is crashing. I have followed the instructions for my remote ATI usb Remote wonder
[01:26] <squish102> cr3ol i had that one working once, i think i selected X10 remote in user space or something
[01:26] <cr3ol> Second DVD Import is getting errors and won't copy DVDs for me. If this is due to an encrypted DVD, that is fine, I just wanted to make sure.
[01:27] <cr3ol> @squish102 Thanks I'll check that out
[01:27] <cr3ol> @squish102 Yep that is the one I am using too.
[01:28] <squish102> cr3ol although i didn't try too long with that remote, as it was intermittent and i went back to a remote keyboard until i found a better ir receiver/remote combination
[01:29] <cr3ol> @squish102 what did you find to be better?
[01:31] <squish102> cr3ol i am not a good source ;) i only tried a week ago to get it working better
[01:32] <squish102> and i eventually had a firefly mini reciever i got with "beyond tv" and then configured a logitech harmony 550 universal remote
[01:32] <squish102> but that is definatly not the way to go
[01:46] <cr3ol> @squish thanks anyway
[08:39] <baalsgate> does the sound upmix only work for tv as i dont seem to get 5.1 when playing mp3's
[08:49] <Bob24> hello
[08:49] <Bob24> my system is running in low graphics mode could someone please advise what i can do? I tryed EnvyNG and still no luck (unless i should use a manual driver) its on a nvidia card it was working before though.
[08:50] <baalsgate> change your display settings ?
[08:50] <baalsgate> resolution ?
[08:53] <Bob24> same thing its flickering like crazy, i intalled the Nvidia EnvyNG driver
[08:53] <Bob24> when i look in the settings its showing vesa generic
[08:53] <baalsgate> sounds like your video setting are wrong
[08:54] <baalsgate> if your running the nvida drivers you will have a nvida control panel
[08:55] <Bob24> i do but it has an error when i enter it
[08:55] <baalsgate> better still edit the xorg.conf manualy
[08:55] <Bob24> what should i change in it?
[08:55] <baalsgate> and restart x
[08:56] <baalsgate> fix your monitor settings the  HorizSync  sounds like its wrong
[08:57] <baalsgate> are you running on a tv or LCD ? or both ?
[08:57] <baalsgate> you need to know specs of your monitor
[08:57] <baalsgate> probe does not always work
[08:57] <Bob24> on a tv
[08:58] <Bob24> ita a media centre i terminal into it to configur
[08:58] <baalsgate> ok then NTSC , PAL PALB PALG etc there are a few differrnt things there too
[08:58] <baalsgate> thats fine
[08:58] <Bob24> in the xorg.conf file
[08:59] <baalsgate> so go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <baalsgate> make a backup xorg.conf.bak
[08:59] <baalsgate> edit the file
[08:59] <Bob24> k
[08:59] <Bob24> yep doing it now
[08:59] <Bob24> it shows default monitor
[09:00] <Bob24> is the depth the refresh rate
[09:00] <baalsgate> what country are you in ?
[09:00] <Bob24> australia
[09:00] <baalsgate> ok easy me too
[09:00] <Bob24> k cool
[09:01] <baalsgate> under section monitor  horizSync 28.0 - 33.0
[09:01] <baalsgate>  VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
[09:01] <baalsgate> what nvida card are you using ?
[09:02] <Bob24> Ge FX 5700 256 my vivo
[09:02] <baalsgate> have you got a "Option         "DPMS" "
[09:03] <Bob24> is that under section extensions
[09:03] <baalsgate> be under monitor
[09:03] <baalsgate> or monitor0
[09:03] <baalsgate> i usualy comment that out
[09:04] <Bob24> 1 sec
[09:04] <baalsgate> how are you connecting your tv ? svideo or composite ?
[09:07] <baalsgate> under section screen
[09:07] <baalsgate> add Option         "TVOutFormat" "SVIDEO"
[09:07] <baalsgate> or Option         "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
[09:08] <baalsgate> and Option         "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
[09:09] <baalsgate> save the file see how that goes.
[09:09] <baalsgate> should be a snap to find a heap on google about xorg.conf
[09:09] <baalsgate> especialy for nvidia
[09:10] <Bob24> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27668/ heres my config just so u can see what i have
[09:10] <baalsgate> im running dual screens on my mythbuntu
[09:11] <Bob24> thing is i can see the screen but its in low graphics mode, so u want me to add those line
[09:12] <baalsgate> you want me to edit it for you ?
[09:12] <Bob24> its ok ill try first
[09:12] <Bob24> can i add all three
[09:13] <baalsgate> change your metamodes line
[09:14] <baalsgate> the res under screen is only 640x480  go higher !
[09:15] <baalsgate> 800x600
[09:15] <baalsgate> or 1024x768
[09:15] <Bob24> what about the refresh rate
[09:16] <Bob24> ok i set it to 800x600
[09:16] <Bob24> do u keep the refresh rate at 60
[09:18] <baalsgate> yes
[09:18] <Bob24> k do i change anything else
[09:18] <baalsgate> virtual
[09:19] <Bob24> ok done what about depth
[09:19] <baalsgate> give me a second there is so much to change here i may as well edit on pase bin
[09:19] <baalsgate> easier
[09:19] <Bob24> ok thanks heaps
[09:21] <Bob24> thing is will it be using the nvidia driver, or a genric one then?
[09:28] <Bob24> sorry for the hassle
[09:32] <Bob24> brb
[09:33] <baalsgate> try this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27672/
[09:49] <Bob24> k thanks
[09:49] <Bob24> will try it now
[09:58] <Bob24> k its rebooting now just gonna see what happens 1 sec
[10:01] <Bob24> k still in low graphics mode in the same reso
[10:02] <Bob24> it went bak to the default xorg.conf config
[10:02] <Bob24> why is this?
[10:03] <laga> that's bulletproof x
[10:04] <laga> if your X server fails to come up, then it'll revert to the default config
[10:04] <Bob24> hm ok
[10:04] <Bob24> what should i do?
[10:05] <baalsgate> install the nvida package properly
[10:05] <baalsgate> read the manual
[10:06] <Bob24> properly i installed it through envyNG like every other time that worked
[10:08] <baalsgate> bob go into the mythbuntu control center
[10:09] <baalsgate> launch the restricted driver manager is the nvidia accelerated grapghics diriver installed ?
[10:10] <Bob24> its not
[10:10] <baalsgate> theres ya  problem
[10:11] <Bob24> cos i was installing the nvidia drivers, do u still need it installed to run the nvidia driver?
[10:12] <baalsgate> what ?
[10:12] <baalsgate> it needs to be installed to run
[10:13] <baalsgate> the nvidia xconfig is handy too for a quick gui setup
[10:15] <baalsgate> sorry  bob i have to take off but install the nvida-glx  and you should be right
[10:16] <baalsgate> nvidia-kernal-common
[10:17] <baalsgate> better still try google mythbuntu nvida install
[10:17] <laga> i'd rather consult the envy-ng manual
[10:18] <baalsgate> yep what ever floats ya boat
[10:18] <Bob24> k thanks people will give it a go
[10:18] <baalsgate> :)
[10:18] <baalsgate> i have to scoot
[10:34] <sebrock> I've got trouble changing my tuner with "Y", anyone else got this? I am however able to change the tuner using the menu...
[11:14] <Migzu> I'm having problems updating mythtv-database
[11:14] <Migzu> i get this error: "syntax error at -e line 5, near "¤db = DBI->conenct('"
[11:15] <Migzu> $db*
[11:15] <Migzu> I've tried to delete the package and redownload it
[11:15] <Migzu> Didn't help
[11:15] <Migzu> It comes when apt-get tries to configure mythtv-database
[11:16] <Migzu> Should i ask this in #mythtv instead?
[11:16] <laga> no
[11:16] <laga> myttv-database usually doesn't do things on update.
[11:16] <Migzu> alright
[11:17] <laga> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:17] <Migzu> Oh
[11:17] <Migzu> 8.04
[11:17] <Migzu> Newest packages
[11:17] <laga> well, of course, the script is run, but it doesn't do anything
[11:17] <laga> interesting
[11:17] <laga> because "¤db = DBI->conenct('" looks like you got a special character in there
[11:17] <Migzu> This comes when i do apt-get upgrade
[11:17] <Migzu> i mean $db
[11:17] <Migzu> miswrote it
[11:18] <laga> ah
[11:18] <Migzu> I can't update mythtv or mythtv-backend packages now
[11:18] <Migzu> Cause they depend on mythtv-database
[11:19] <laga> what happens if you sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database?
[11:20] <Migzu> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mythtv-database is broken or isn't installed completely"
[11:20] <Migzu> Or that in finnish
[11:22] <laga> hum
[11:22] <laga> annoying
[11:22] <Migzu> It gives me these errors every time when i use apt-get
[11:23] <Migzu> Even if i install something else
[11:23] <laga> you probably get the error because you didn't set up all the details.. i'm not even sure if i have mythtv-database installed, you only need it once
[11:23] <laga> you can disbale the postinst script for the time being
[11:23] <Migzu> how?
[11:23] <Migzu> But how do i update mythtv and mythtv-backend then?
[11:23] <Migzu> They depend on mythtv-database
[11:24] <laga> mythtv-backend does not depend on mythtv-database
[11:24] <Migzu> Oh
[11:24] <Migzu> mythtv then
[11:24] <laga> mythtv-backend-master does AFAIK
[11:24] <laga> Migzu: mythtv is just a meta package ;)
[11:24] <laga> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv-database.* -
[11:25] <laga> that will give you the scripts
[11:25] <laga> just putting "exit 0" in the second line should be enough
[11:25] <laga> but it might break again on the next update..
[11:28] <Migzu> should i reinstall mythbuntu completely?
[11:29] <Migzu> Would it fix this fully?
[11:29] <Migzu> Damn, my keyboard layout is messed up
[11:29] <laga> why would you want to reinstall mythbuntu? that shouldn't be necessary
[11:29] <Migzu> Can't find *-mark
[11:30] <Migzu> Well dunno really
[11:30] <Migzu> This installation is pretty badly messed up anyways
[11:30] <Migzu> Can't even change terminal anymore
[11:31] <Migzu> ctrl+alt+f2 gives just black screen
[11:31] <Migzu> Only 7 works
[11:31] <laga> well, if you think reinstalling will be easier than fixing it and if this is not a production system..
[11:31] <laga> well, that might be a hardware/driver problem ;)
[11:31] <laga> is it hooked up to a tv?
[11:31] <Migzu> It worked before
[11:31] <Migzu> Yeah
[11:31] <Migzu> Worked before last update
[11:32] <laga> probably a kernel problem then..
[11:32] <laga> is that an old CRT TV?
[11:32] <Migzu> yeah
[11:32] <Migzu> gpu is riva tnt 2
[11:32] <laga> well, it's often a bit tricky to restore the consoles properly on tv-out chipsets, so i'm surprised that it worked before ;)
[11:33] <Migzu> oh
[11:33] <Migzu> This riva tnt 2 seems to force it trough
[11:33] <Migzu> I can even see the bios messages
[11:33] <Migzu> monochrome though
[11:33] <laga> yeah, that often works, but switching between X and the console can break things
[11:33] <Migzu> And it give me the tv-out without drivers
[11:34] <Migzu> oh
[11:34] <Migzu> and it seems that music thingy is broken too
[11:34] <Migzu> I got stuff in the database, but can't see them on the listening thing
[11:35] <Migzu> i see my music in the search, but i can't select them
[11:35] <Migzu> lol
[11:36] <Migzu> I get funky disco-light when i do ctrl+alt+f1
[11:37] <Migzu> it flashes beetween black and white :D
[11:37] <laga> nice. :)
[11:37] <laga> maybe your database got damated, you can repair it in the control centre
[11:38] <laga> err, damaged
[11:39] <Migzu> ok, i'll try that
[11:42] <Migzu> Whoa, it worked
[11:42] <Migzu> I mean adding the exit 0
[11:42] <Migzu> Thanks
[11:59] <cmug> Ok, I am moving house. I am going from Terrestrial to Cable. Obviously I need new cards :-( What are the recommendations these days? I would like to buy it in Finland but ordering is an option too..
[12:25] <sebrock> I've got trouble changing my tuner with "Y", anyone else got this? I am however able to change the tuner using the menu...
[13:22] <craiga> hi, does anyone have a ASUS p5e-vm hdmi? I read the thread about it, and it seemed to have a few problems, are these resolved?
[13:27] <Kohler|away> hello all ,firstly i would like to say, mythtv is great ..so far. I have set it up on a new box but i am haviing trouble with setting up lirc, i am following the guide http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_lirc_install but i dont know what to put in for my hardware.conf LOAD_MODULES
[13:28] <laga> why don't you use the wizard in MCC or in sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc?
[13:28] <Kohler|away> i have a stir4210 module setup with the patches
[13:28] <laga> that works for a lot of remotes
[13:28] <laga> okay, "patches" sounds like it's not going to work for you
[13:28] <Kohler|away> lol i bought a usb idra reciver
[13:29] <Kohler|away> it gets connected and registered not sure what to do next .. i thought i would have to setup lirc to get it working with mythtv
[13:29] <Kohler|away> when i do ifconfig comes up as irda0
[13:31] <Kohler|away> so does mythtv use lirc in the MCC?
[13:32] <laga> are you sure your dongle will work with lirc?
[13:33] <Kohler|away> thats a question im yet to fully understand ....... i have seen example where it has but im new to irda and lirc
[13:34] <Kohler|away> is there a command in linux... or usting irda_utils that i can see if the reciver is receiveing inputs?(button presses) ?
[13:36] <laga> irda is normally for data transfer, not sure how lirc can use it
[13:36] <laga> google might be your friend there ;)
[13:43] <Kohler|away> says also in my dmesg USB IrDA support registered ... if that helps
[14:45] <sabhain> anyone ever run into a huge echo on playback?  It almost seems like there's 2 copies of front end running, since when I exit, I have to do it twice.  Anyone see this?
[14:45] <laga> sabhain: analog TV card?
[14:51] <Kohler|away> laga: my device is supported by lirc since it is a irda compatiable .... is lirc only to make the ir siginals recieved turn into certain button presses ?
[14:53] <laga> kind of. it translates them into button presses and then other software can translate them into key presses or just act on the button presses directly
[14:54] <Kohler|away> oh ok so if my irda device is working correctly then lirc will use it .... if i configure it properly....
[14:56] <craiga> laga, what chipset is your frontend? used a Intel X3500 ever?
[14:56] <craiga> like this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BG-320-AS&utm_source=froogle
[14:56] <laga> no, can't say i did
[14:59] <craiga> ok thanks
[15:10] <sabhain> laga .. seem to get it both on HDHR and a pvr-500 .. it's really random, and kicking the frontend (software) usually solves it.
[15:11] <sabhain> sometimes it happens halfway through a program if we fast forward a bunch, or do some jumping.  We get dual audio .. as much as 1 sec off.
[15:51] <CRXLPY> w00t!
[15:52] <craiga> ?
[15:53] <craiga> CRXLPY, what motherboard are you using?
[15:53] <CRXLPY> got the tuner card working (well one of them)
[15:53] <craiga> well done!
[15:53] <CRXLPY> abit nf7-s v2
[15:53] <CRXLPY> nforce2
[15:54] <craiga> kk, just having trouble with my 630i/GF7100...thinking of ditching it for a GX3500
[15:54] <CRXLPY> wintv 44327 tuner card
[15:54] <CRXLPY> gpu here is ati rad7000
[15:56] <craiga> good support?
[15:56] <DarrenCT> how do i connect my mythfrontend in desktop Ubuntu to my knoppmyth server?
[15:56] <CRXLPY> yeah I know..... ati gpu on a nvidia mb...and no evil genie is appearing....
[15:56] <craiga> ive got evil genie with mine, damm slow ubuntu nvidia drivers!...at least intel is all open
[15:57] <CRXLPY> craiga rad7000 is an 8yr old card , anything that old has good support
[15:57] <laga> except for nvidia ;)
[15:57] <CRXLPY> I never buy anything younger than 2yrs old
[15:58] <craiga> exactly laga
[15:58] <CRXLPY> laga really ??  I just bought a fx5600-256(the 1st nv card I have had since my tnt2) I hope I dont regret it
[15:59] <CRXLPY> 1st agp nv card of any kind
[15:59] <CRXLPY> for me
[15:59] <laga> CRXLPY: yeah, that'll require their binary driver.
[15:59] <laga> i guess you won't be disappointed.
[15:59] <craiga> my 7100 hangs when i force the output...jumping the nvidia ship
[16:00] <craiga> and 7100 isnt new!
[16:00] <CRXLPY> force the output? you mean fps, or changing the output port
[16:00] <craiga> port
[16:00] <craiga> "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP-0"
[16:01] <craiga> whole PC hangs, kernel panic i think based on my keyboard LEDS and no logs
[16:01] <CRXLPY> well since I have a mytv box up now, I will be learning about the ati tv-out stuff for the 1st time
[16:03] <craiga> have a noose handy!
[16:04] <CRXLPY> there is a current gpu that is oss friendly is there?
[16:04] <laga> did you mean "booze"? ;)
[16:04] <CRXLPY> ooops I meant isnt
[16:04] <laga> CRXLPY: intel stuff usually
[16:05] <laga> and ATI is getting more OSS friendly.
[16:05] <CRXLPY> I dont count intel as a gpu
[16:05] <CRXLPY> they are merely graphics cards ....lol
[16:07] <CRXLPY> if intel made a mobo for my amd cpus then I would consider having Inthel Inthide
[16:08] <craiga> intel cpu's are great just now, and open source video is friendly too, given it is only for TV and video it should be good, just thinking about pressing the buy button now
[16:08] <laga> do you need the tv-out?
[16:08] <craiga> CRXLPY,  what do you guys think? http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1912&l1=3&l2=11&l3=584&l4=0
[16:08] <craiga> over HDMI
[16:09] <laga> make sure HDMI is supported ;)
[16:09] <CRXLPY> craiga do you mean intel's gpus?
[16:10] <CRXLPY> I am waiting for the thing that follows hdmi, I plan on skipping it.
[16:10] <craiga> skipping HDMI?  is the new thing far off
[16:10] <craiga> open source videa = i mean drivers for gpu
[16:11] <CRXLPY> I have no idea what will follow it, I am very unimpressed with the hdmi proposal as it was defined
[16:12] <CRXLPY> I am an old school believer in fidelity
[16:12] <craiga> like most people were with VHS
[16:12] <craiga> can you give that mobo a quick squint over for me? wouldnt mind a second opinion
[16:13] <CRXLPY> infinite bit rate at infinite sampling freq
[16:13] <CRXLPY> analog ftw
[16:13] <CRXLPY> ok looking now
[16:14] <craiga> ty
[16:16] <CRXLPY> looks neat
[16:17] <CRXLPY> I have no knowledge of the support for the sound chip and stuff
[16:17] <craiga> think it comes under intel_hd in the kernel
[16:17] <craiga> and the gpu is 'semi' supportred
[16:17] <sabhain> I have 7100 nv and it's smooth as silk
[16:18] <craiga> over hdmi?
[16:18] <CRXLPY> and the AI transfer stuff would only apply when you are connecting to another asus mb with ai xfer (imhho)
[16:19] <craiga> yea, not using AI
[16:20] <CRXLPY> I always go with an "A" brand mb. so ASUS is a good choice
[16:20] <CRXLPY> my boards have been ABIT for the past few years
[16:21] <craiga> yep have a Inno3d nv7100/630i but it sucks HUGE, cant get BIOS update or anything...thinking of putting an EVGA BIOS on if i can
[16:21] <CRXLPY> ABIT even had a mb with a vacuum tube amp on it (very sweet sound)
[16:22] <craiga> ABIT are good, along with ASUS...love my DFI's for clocking though!
[16:22] <CRXLPY> well I have an ASUS board with the same issue here
[16:23] <craiga> what issue?
[16:23] <craiga> no bios update?
[16:23] <craiga> how old is it?
[16:23] <CRXLPY> cant update
[16:23] <CRXLPY> it wont post
[16:24] <CRXLPY> doesnt even power, all that happened was a bad flash by the friend that gave it to me
[16:25] <CRXLPY> I dont want to spend money on a new bios chip though
[16:25] <craiga> lol...was just about to say that
[16:25] <craiga> this board was only £35 so if i break it no matter really..and ill just get that asus
[16:26] <CRXLPY> my myth box board has been through 3-4 flash chips through all my "experiments"  ABIT charges much less for one than asus does
[16:27] <CRXLPY> I wish I had a burner, then I couls reflash the old chips with scrambled data
[16:28] <CRXLPY> now I need to learn how to watch tv from windows
[16:29] <craiga> dont do it! its not worth it
[16:29] <sabhain> I use HDMI out for video .. the audio pass through HDMI doesn't quite work yet.  I have an MSI intel board (P6NGM), but I understand from some other folks that the AMD boards from MSI may have the ability to do both audio and video through HDMI
[16:29] <jphillip> CRXLPY there is an installer for mythtv player on the cd, pop it into your windows box, install and run
[16:30] <CRXLPY> craiga well when I am on the road visiting friends and dont have linux at my disposal, it is the only choice
[16:30] <CRXLPY> jphillip oh coool  thx
[16:31] <jphillip> np
[16:33] <craiga> sabhain, is that a 710/630i board? what nvidia dirver are you using?!
[16:34] <craiga> and any special bios settings?
[16:35] <CRXLPY> an interesting link about video standards:   http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html
[16:37] <CRXLPY> I personally cant agree with hdmi combining signal and control into the same cable. Kinda like using your plumbing to carry power and phone as well.
[16:38] <CRXLPY> I like my CRTs
[16:38] <craiga> you must have a big house!
[16:38] <CRXLPY> actually no, a small cave
[16:38] <CRXLPY> no joke
[16:39] <laga> pictures?
[16:39] <CRXLPY> a converted downstairs garage
[16:40] <CRXLPY> house is on a hill, so my apt is cement floor and half of it is recessed into the hill
[16:40] <craiga> like batman?
[16:40] <jphillip> thats failry normal
[16:40] <CRXLPY> less than 1000 sq ft
[16:40] <jphillip> gets you some insulation from the ground
[16:40] <jphillip> thats how my basement is
[16:40] <CRXLPY> yup jphillip
[16:41] <CRXLPY> plus the crts help me keep a nice tan throughout the year
[16:43] <craiga> sabhain, do you use any specific nvidia version? or bios settings? my kernel panics when i set "ConnectedMonitor"
[16:43] <sabhain> craiga, I think that your 630i question is right .. that's what I think it is.  You can look it up @ newegg.  I'm using the proprietary driver in 8.04 LTS
[16:44] <sabhain> to my knowledge, I've not done anything with the bios other than maximizing the shared video memory space.
[16:44] <sabhain> I have it hooked up to a 37" LCD, but installed with a 19" monitor .. and it "just worked" from the start.
[16:45] <craiga> damm, what make is your TV
[16:46] <craiga> do you see it post?
[16:46] <sabhain> especially with the release of 8.04 .. it's worked great.  7.10 it took a little kicking to get the driver to load, but after battling ATI to the death, I've been THRILLED with the performance of the nvidia stuff.  I have 2 frontends running HD (720P / 1080i) with these mb's .. and not too many problems.
[16:46] <CRXLPY> http://rochakchauhan.com/blog/2007/09/12/crt-vs-lcd-vs-plasma/
[16:47] <craiga> i dotn understand why mine locks now!  i have had it display 1080i, but after a reboot it wont! and i have to start fresh again
[16:47] <sabhain> craiga, I have a toshiba 37" LCD .. the other FE is a DVI version of the same board powering a slightly older Zenith rearprojection unit, 42" I think.
[16:48] <sabhain> what do you mean by "set ConnectedMonitor" .. can you explain that to me?  Where are you setting that?
[16:49] <CRXLPY> on a completely different topic. does anyone know if the remote codes are hardwired on the wintv card (not a pvr-*50) .  or can I use a different remote?
[16:50] <craiga> in xorg.conf...my panasonic tv doesnt show post
[16:50] <craiga> and xorg cant see it unless it is told to
[16:50] <sabhain> craiga, I gotta be afk for an hour or so, but I'll check back and see if I can help.  Are you using "nvidia-settings" to control things, or the gnome-settings stuff?
[16:51] <sabhain> hmmm .. with the new driver, I didn't ever have to slug through any xorg.conf myself .. sudo'd the nvidia settings and it was pretty straightforward.
[16:51] <sabhain> BBL
[16:51] <CRXLPY> craiga afaik you will only see post on one display, if the tv is not the one the bios inits then it wont show post
[16:53] <craiga> no "CRT" conneted no POST
[16:53] <craiga> doesnt seem to be able to read EDID either
[16:54] <craiga> im going to flash a new EVGA bios on my Inno3d board...should be ok they are both reference nvidia board
[16:54] <CRXLPY> I dont understand your statement
[16:54] <CRXLPY> I was not refering to crt's
[16:56] <craiga> crt = anything that is 15 pin D Type
[16:56] <CRXLPY> that isnt true
[16:56] <CRXLPY> and you can see post from the dvi port
[16:56] <craiga> thats how xorg.conf see's it
[16:57] <CRXLPY> we are talking about post
[16:57] <CRXLPY> xorg has nothing to do with post
[16:57] <craiga> yep, i know thats not xorg, just using its terminology
[16:57] <CRXLPY> the OS has nothing to do with post
[16:57] <craiga> i can only see post on a monitor
[16:58] <craiga> NOT on my plasma tv over hdmi
[16:58] <craiga> BUT I can see post on a samsung LCD over hdmi
[16:59] <CRXLPY> sounds like handshake issues with the tv, not settings in the computer then
[16:59] <CRXLPY> gotta love the wonderful world of in-band control signals
[17:00] <craiga> yep driving me crazy...although i dont think my pana can display the low res signal...however it can display 480i, which i though the POST was
[17:00] <craiga> dont even care about POST, just want XORG to see it, which it does..ONCE
[17:01] <craiga> anyway, i gotta run just now, back in an hour os so hoping that sabhain can help
[17:57] <cmug> Should I use a hardware decoding DVB-C card or software?
[18:19] <CRXLPY> is there a free listings service for US-cable that interfaces with myth?
[18:22] <laga> cmug: mythtv does not support the decoding features of full featured DVB card
[18:22] <laga> s
[19:00] <cmug> laga, ok no point in them then. How about HDTV cards?
[19:00] <cmug> I know I could find all this info on www too so if you guys don't want to answer simple questions thats alright
[19:01] <laga> what's a "HDTV card"?
[19:02] <laga> dvb-c hardware for "HDTV" usually just has different software. the card just spits out the data stream
[19:02] <cmug> HD DVB, such as http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p130_SATELCO-EasyWatch-HDTV-PCI--DVB-C-.html
[19:02] <laga> of course, you probably need a CI and a CAM and so on
[19:02] <cmug> so a normal DVB-C card is also capable of receiving HDTV broadcasts?
[19:03] <cmug> yes
[19:03] <laga> AFAIK yes.
[19:04] <cmug> http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p149_SATELCO-EasyWatch-PCI-DVB-C-HDTV--Basic-Edition-.html compared to http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p144_SATELCO-EasyWatch-PCI-DVB-C--Basic-Edition-.html ? why is the HDTV version more expensive?
[19:04] <laga> software i suppose
[19:04] <laga> just ask dvbshop ;)
[19:04] <cmug> ok :)
[19:04] <cmug> thanks for the ideas, I always assumed its a hardware difference
[19:04] <cmug> I'll go afk now