[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Xavura No, as far as I know, you are only banned from ubuntu
[00:00] <nalioth> if you ask an X11 question, why would you be directed to #ubuntu ?
[00:00] <Xavura> Isn't it specific to Ubuntu? What's X11?
[00:01] <nalioth> X11 can be found on every operating system in teh world
[00:01] <nalioth> it is what you are asking about
[00:01] <Xavura> Eh
[00:01] <Xavura> Alright then.
[00:01] <nalioth> please read the /topic
[00:02] <Xavura> I did the first time I came but
[00:02] <Xavura> I wasn't aware it was specific to all OS', I thought it was different for each OS/Distro
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Xavura Clearly, this is the wrong channel for your questions, please /part
[00:07] <Xavura> What else can I try other than debian and kubuntu?
[00:07] <Xavura> I don't even know any other distros
[00:07] <nalioth> Xavura: waht part of "every operating system in the world" is not clear?
[00:08] <nalioth> you might get help in <GASP> ##linux
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Xavura Go to either of those and ask your question
[00:08] <nalioth> or even <GASP> #help
[00:08] <Xavura> or even <GASP> thanks for the sarcasm
[02:29] <Hobbsee> ikonia: that's not spam.  you should have that on highlight.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> ikonia: visit it, if you want, but clear your cache, etc, afterwards.
[02:37] <nalioth> what did i miss, Hobbsee ?
[02:38] <Hobbsee> nalioth: nothing :)
[02:38] <Hobbsee> (you already commented on it)
[02:38] <nalioth> Hobbsee: ok
[02:38]  * nalioth was just wondering why his highlights weren't highlighting . . . 
[02:39] <Hobbsee> i've no idea - mine triggered
[03:30] <SeaPhor> I appologize for asking this here, but I didn't know of another place that would know, I have joined my channel with another's and know how to "un-join", and undo the redirect, if I wanted to, would it be easier to just start all over?
[03:31] <SeaPhor> *and want to know how,,, sorry
[03:33] <nalioth> SeaPhor: /msg chanserv help invite
[03:33] <nalioth> SeaPhor: invite yourself to the original channel
[03:34] <SeaPhor> i can access the original, how do i undo the join?
[03:34] <nalioth> For tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml SeaPhor
[03:34] <SeaPhor> ty
[03:47] <Pici> ...
[03:51] <Hobbsee> yay, limcore.... ugh
[03:51] <Pici> yep.
[04:09]  * mneptok cranks some Cocteau Twins
[05:20] <nickrud> alraune it's probably your real name, some words have a blanket ban
[05:21] <alraune> quest: is there a chat (channel)  for people though knowing little linux can chat about whatever ?
[05:21] <nickrud> alraune change your real name, then try joining #ubuntu-offtopic again
[05:22] <alraune> nickrud: err, nickrud is probably.... äh no, alraune is a nick
[05:22] <Hobbsee> alraune: ##linux, probably
[05:22] <nickrud> alraune you have fag as your real name
[05:23] <alraune> you know dpkg (nick) ?
[05:24] <alraune> nickrud: you know dpkg (nick) ?
[05:24] <nickrud> alraune as a command, yes. This isn't a support channel though
[05:25] <alraune> nickrud: Äh, I know I don't know anything........ feels good !
[05:26] <nickrud> alraune I'm not sure why you can't get into #ubuntu-offtopic , try joining it again. If you still can't, someone who has ops there will deal with it
[05:26] <alraune> nickrud is no bot !
[05:26] <alraune> k
[05:29] <alraune> nickrud: thx, n success, will joy communication channel now, thx
[05:38] <Flannel> 60 minutes, eh nickrud?
[05:39] <nickrud> :)  the 60minutes is wrong, its +life ;)
[05:40] <nickrud> hm, I wonder when someone on the council will actually add you to the list
[05:40] <bazhang> the real question is when the webpage will be updated :)
[05:41] <nalioth> what list?
[05:41] <nickrud> yeah, I noticed that today. not having access to the bantracker really makes things difficult
[05:41] <nickrud> launchpat irc team
[05:42] <bazhang> nickrud, @login and @btlogin dont work for you?
[05:42] <nickrud> bazhang ah, it does for me. It didn't, seveas mentioned he had to add me to the -irc team. I may have confused that with bt access
[05:44] <nalioth> hmm, the browser just crashed ( wonder if it's a sign )
[05:46] <nickrud> of the apocalypse? No, probably a sign to give up ppc maybe
[05:47]  * nickrud has stimulated his bank account, now wonders which store to stimulate
[05:47] <Flannel> nickrud: Dont!  Save it.
[05:47] <bazhang> good advice
[05:47] <nalioth> no, nickrud.  it's a sign that galeon cannot maintain uptime
[05:48] <nalioth> every 3 weeks, it crashes
[05:48] <nickrud> What?!!? We're supposed to shop!! Probably an iphone. maybe one of those openmoko phones, if I can just find out more about them
[05:49]  * nickrud wanted to mock someone treelike, but had to hold his tongue
[05:50] <Flannel> No, you're not.  Spending said stimulus check will only cause the economy to waver longer.  Saving them will cause the economy to get worse short term, but it'll hit bottom, and then we'll recover.
[05:51] <bazhang> woot! approved 3 minutes ago :)
[05:51]  * nickrud pokes nalioth with the 'good job' paddle
[05:51] <bazhang> haha
[05:53] <nickrud> Flannel can't fault your logic, but I deal with people daily that are being thrashed by the wavering economy; I'm hoping we go from the waver to a stagger to a walk, without the bust.
[05:54] <Flannel> nickrud: Unfortunately, that won't happen without Uncle Sam bailing everyone out (and even then, still might).  And that'll set dangerous precidents.
[05:55] <nickrud> Yah. The concept of communal (note the root, not another derivation) aid.
[05:56] <Flannel> Well, theres nothing wrong with community helping people.  But the government shouldnt.
[05:56]  * Flannel might've gotten the intended meaning mixed up with the not.
[05:57] <nickrud> Flannel no, you got the idea. The government, if properly used, is an extension of the community.
[05:57] <nickrud> the organized manifestation of community
[05:58] <Flannel> nickrud: There's a large difference between community and government though.
[05:58] <Flannel> Community is neighbor helping neighbor (because they want to).  Government is neighbor's money (through taxes) helping neighbor (because theyre forced to).
[05:59] <Flannel> The former is A-OK by anyones definition.  The latter deals with constitutionality/definition of government roles/etc.
[06:00] <Flannel> And the latter, especially in this case, if implemented will lead down a slippery slope.  "Waah, I bought too much and am now bankrupt.  The government should pay off my debt"
[06:00] <Flannel> Because the populace right now *is* largely a nation of consumer-whiners.
[06:01] <TheSheep> Flannel: only in the countries where they were conditioned to be like that
[06:01] <nickrud> Nah, too many believed the promises of cheap, deregulated money and the prophets that said 'you can have it all, go shop!!'
[06:02] <bazhang> no one wants to be called a whiner though. Not exactly a popular message these days.
[06:02] <Flannel> TheSheep: our topic is what to do with stimulus checks.  Location specifics are understood.
[06:03] <nickrud> sorta ##politics-polite ;)
[06:03] <bazhang> heh 'stimulus'
[06:04] <nickrud> Flannel anyway, I have a good savings plan, this is money I think was given away foolishly ($150B?!!) so I'll simply use it for fun.
[06:06] <nickrud> Flannel and on the subject of whiners, that is an excellent description of at least a quarter of the people I deal with
[06:06] <bazhang> tis all in your head! things are great :)
[06:18] <nickrud> nalioth or elkbuntu or pricechild, could someone add flannel to #ubuntu access list? I saw you all voted ;)
[06:18] <bazhang> chanserv gives voice to Flannel
[06:18] <Flannel> -offtopic too, I believe.
[06:19]  * Flannel doesn't know.
[06:19] <bazhang> wish I had it in offtopic
[06:22] <nalioth> Flannel: welcome to hell.
[06:22] <Flannel> nalioth: Its where I vacation in summer.
[06:22] <bazhang> too much of a risk I guess.
[06:23] <nalioth> Flannel: if you have any questions whatsoever, please ask them of us
[06:23] <nalioth> and remember we're a kinder gentler IRC community
[06:24]  * nickrud snorts
[06:24] <bazhang> nalioth, lp page updated
[06:24] <Flannel> nalioth: someone mentioned irssi alias thing and asking you about them.
[06:25] <Flannel> although I imagine I can grep logs for them too, if they're not handy.
[06:25] <nalioth> Flannel: "auto_bleh.pl"
[06:26] <nalioth> Flannel: or join #autobleh for an updated version
[06:28] <nickrud> next up, Jordan_U
[06:33] <Flannel> @login
[06:35] <Myrtti> ♥ Flannel
[06:35]  * Myrtti hugs Flannel
[06:35] <Tm_T> hmm
[06:36] <Tm_T> hug me?
[06:36] <Myrtti> Flannel: irssi aliases: http://nullcortex.com/
[06:36] <Flannel> Myrtti: thanks
[06:37] <Flannel> oh right.  I knew I read this recently.
[06:37] <Myrtti> Flannel: I've got my own set too :-P
[06:37] <Myrtti> Flannel: welcome to the crowd, your joining has been loooooong overdue
[06:37]  * Myrtti hugs once more
[06:37] <Flannel> Myrtti: You (collectively) finally asked.
[06:38] <Myrtti> Flannel: again one of those "I thought he was, someone must've asked already, right?"
[06:38] <Myrtti> "RIGHT?"
[06:38]  * Myrtti hugs Tm_T 
[06:38] <nickrud> madpilot swears he's asked flannel more than once.
[06:39] <Myrtti> see? ^
[06:39] <Myrtti> :-D
[06:39] <Flannel> nickrud: He's *talked* about it, and I've said the same thing each time.
[06:39]  * Myrtti larts Flannel 
[06:39] <Myrtti> :-P
[06:40] <Myrtti> have a cookie?
[06:40] <nickrud> probably the same thing you told me when I brought it up, 'hell no' :)
[06:40] <Flannel> nickrud: Looking through the channel logs, I see he's asked about it here a number of times.  Guess he finally asked when people were awake.
[06:40] <Flannel> nickrud: I never said that?
[06:41] <Myrtti> teehee
[06:41] <Myrtti> you are a funny bunch
[06:41] <Flannel> Myrtti: we exist solely to entertain you.
[06:41] <Flannel> Well, plus all the other stuff.
[06:41] <Myrtti> ♥ and I only to cheer you up
[06:42] <nickrud> Flannel may I post from a pm log? Just one line?
[06:42] <Flannel> nickrud: Sure.  When was it?  I'll check mine.
[06:42] <nickrud> Jun 22 21:10:10 <Flannel>       Not me, no.
[06:42] <Flannel> since, I'm sure you'll be quoting out of context ;)
[06:44] <Flannel> mm.  Darn.  Notices aren't logged.
[06:44] <Flannel> and I finally restarted, so its not even in my buffer.
[06:44] <Flannel> nickrud: You happen to remember what that was in response to?  Two things.
[06:45] <nickrud> Flannel for your own side, one more line: Jun 22 21:18:25 <Flannel>       I honestly don't see why anyone would decline when asked. I guess you never did get a definitive request ;)
[06:45] <nickrud> Flannel I do remember it as my saying why don't you become an op? But I don't have the exact wordage either
[06:46] <Flannel> nickrud: I think it was more along the lines of already an op.
[06:46] <nickrud> could be.
[06:47] <Flannel> which makes sense with the next line: 21:10 <Flannel> Although... it seems now I've got ops even thinking I'm an op.
[06:47] <Myrtti> silly Flannel! tricks are for kids!
[06:48] <Myrtti> in ANY case
[06:48] <Myrtti> here you are now
[06:48] <nickrud> Flannel yeah, now you have the pain along with the pull :)
[06:49] <nickrud> just watch out for the pointy things :)
[06:50] <Flannel> nickrud: and grues
[06:52] <Myrtti> hey, I always hug and give cookies after poking with the Pink Fluffy Pen Of Poking™ :-)
[06:59]  * bazhang wonders what happened to Pelo
[07:11]  * Flannel is going to have to get used to not using o-p-s trigger.
[07:14] <Myrtti> Flannel: *patpat* it will be alright :-P
[07:16] <jussi01> morning all
[07:16] <jussi01> congrats Flannel :)
[07:18] <Flannel> jussi01: Thankee
[07:18] <jussi01> :)
[07:23] <jussi01> jpds: you thunder stealer you :P
[07:24] <jpds> morning.
[07:59] <Myrtti> yay. I managed to do a bridge to my virtualbox.
[08:00] <Myrtti> too bad I managed to make it permanent so I couldn't access net with the host machine.
[08:00] <Myrtti> still, as I am excellent and cool, I also fixed it. With reading only man pages of brctl, since VirtualBox and evince wouldn't start.
[08:01] <Myrtti> yay!
[10:25] <Myrtti> he ... now ... has ... a public autoaway.
[10:25]  * Myrtti cries
[10:26] <ikonia> different guy
[10:26] <Myrtti> dmesg?
[10:26] <ikonia> dmesg and dmseg
[10:26] <Flannel> dmesg vs dmseg
[10:27] <Myrtti> I believe that is the same guy folks....
[10:29] <ikonia> just asked him to remove it in a PM, asked me if I'd taken my medican and told me he would ignore me
[10:29] <Myrtti> !instantrimshot
[10:30] <Myrtti> I believe that fits the occasion
[10:30] <ikonia> he's done the same in #fedora too, just seen them
[10:30] <Myrtti> I'll await the day someone tells me to bite them
[10:30] <Myrtti> "BITE MEH!"
[10:37]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:37] <Tm_T> dmesg: erm
[10:37]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:03)
[10:37]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:04)
[10:38] <Tm_T> dmesg: why all this public aways?
[10:38]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:04)
[10:38] <ikonia> dmesg: you where removed from the ubuntu channel for this very reason
[10:38]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:05)
[10:38] <ikonia> dmesg: you refused to discuss disabling this script. If you refuse to discuss this further you will also be removed from this channel
[10:38]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:38]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:39] <elkbuntu> ikonia, he's only doing it for a reaction, kinda like how 10yrolds behave.
[10:39]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:39] <elkbuntu> dont give him the reaction, he'll grow out of it
[10:39]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:39]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:39]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:39]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:01)
[10:40]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:02)
[10:40]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:00)
[10:40]  * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:01)
[10:40]  * dmesg is away: I'll be back!
[10:41] <dmesg> ikonia-> loser
[10:41] <dmesg> oh, no, not the ubuntu-ops channel
[10:41] <dmesg> whatever will i do without it
[10:41] <dmesg> ikonia has a problem with his sexuality.
[10:41]  * Tm_T <3 dmesg
[10:41] <ikonia> for some reason I can't op in here ?
[10:41] <elkbuntu> insults are a different matter altogether
[10:41] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: true
[10:42] <Tm_T> ikonia: hmm, not many can
[10:42] <ikonia> I'm in the access list
[10:42] <ikonia> it's just not working
[10:42] <elkbuntu> ikonia, only long-term ops tend to be able to
[10:42] <Flannel> ikonia: only as via
[10:42] <elkbuntu> you're in the access list for voice
[10:42] <ikonia> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:42] <ikonia> didn't look at the list
[10:42] <elkbuntu> yeah, as what in old language was lvl 5
[10:42] <Flannel> Oh yeah.. Levels are gone now aren't they
[10:43] <ikonia> that makes sense
[10:43] <elkbuntu> Flannel, yes, but it allows for more owners, and different levels of ownership which is nice
[10:43] <Flannel> I'm still trying to figure out what the number in ALIS means
[10:44] <elkbuntu> ask #freenode, they'll give you a link that only explains half of what you want to know, then ask for what you dont see on the page
[10:45] <ikonia> I've got the page bookmarked somewhere
[10:45] <Flannel> I just love how the contextual help feature isn't really contextual
[10:46] <elkbuntu> haha, dholbach has an admirer: * hornyforholbach (i=horny@gateway/tor/x-16762b566dfc9586) has left #ubuntu-proxy-users
[10:48] <ikonia> I've got a feeling evil is dmesg in #ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> he joined after dmesg was kicked, his channels lists are similar, and he's just refered to me as good like - which I did remove him from #ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> his IP has changed though
[10:49] <ikonia> could be wrong
[10:52] <elkbuntu> he uses proxies
[10:53]  * elkbuntu waits
[10:56] <jussi01> ikonia: i replied to your comment :D
[10:57] <ikonia> ha ha, good man
[10:57] <ikonia> I've not opened up firefox yet
[10:57] <gnomefreak> good like ?
[10:58] <Flannel> godlike
[10:58] <ikonia> I could be way off on that, it just seemed ver co-incidental
[10:58] <gnomefreak> meglomainia ;)
[10:59] <ikonia> elkbuntu: I think your onto him
[10:59] <elkbuntu> ikonia, eh?
[10:59] <ikonia> asking how to change channels - when he's already in 3 channels
[11:00]  * Myrtti pokes jussi01
[11:00] <elkbuntu> dude, he's claiming n00bness, but he knows about /proc/
[11:00]  * jussi01 pokes Myrtti back :D thanks
[11:00] <Flannel> elkbuntu: No, he was told about /proc/ two seconds before pasting that
[11:00] <Myrtti> I've got adblock on so I can't see a thing
[11:00] <Myrtti> is it there :-D
[11:00]  * gnomefreak thinks this dmesg kid is gonna make people angry/annoyed/ect...
[11:00] <Myrtti> it shows up in html
[11:00] <elkbuntu> Flannel, he quoted proc about 10 mins ago already
[11:01] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, ask ##linux about him
[11:01] <Flannel> elkbuntu: You're referring to the uptime, right?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: i heard you talking about it yesterday
[11:01] <elkbuntu> yes
[11:02] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Look four lines before that, eboyjr
[11:02] <elkbuntu> ah, misread. still, look a little down from that
[11:04] <gnomefreak> !python
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i dont think that is best way of describing it
[11:04] <ikonia> version dropping in factoids is a pain too
[11:05] <Flannel> elkbuntu: If I were to pick a reincarnation, I'd pick iampaul personally.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> ikonia: agreed
[11:05] <elkbuntu> heh
[11:05] <gnomefreak> @whoami
[11:05] <gnomefreak> @login
[11:05] <Flannel> speaking of, who do I have to talk to for all that fancy mumbo jumbo?
[11:06] <elkbuntu> dare someone to ask him if he has a website...
[11:07] <Myrtti> Flannel: whaddaya want to know?
[11:07] <Flannel> @login
[11:07] <Flannel> Myrtti: Who do I bug re: updating that
[11:07] <Myrtti> poke jussi01 :-P
[11:07] <jpds> Flannel: /msg ubottu register <password>
[11:08] <jussi01> jpds: I am about to shoot you
[11:09] <jpds> jussi01: I thought you always wanted to do that.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> !python is <reply> python is a popular Oject Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org
[11:10] <gnomefreak> im having trouble with browser can someone confirmt hat is the link
[11:10] <Flannel> gnomefreak: looks like you broke the python website
[11:10] <Myrtti> yup
[11:11] <gnomefreak> i couldnt connect to it
[11:11] <Myrtti> Tis dead, Jim.
[11:11] <Flannel> gnomefreak: yeah, it works.  Also works sans www
[11:11] <gnomefreak> so i took a stab
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:21] <Myrtti> oh fun
[11:21] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: I feel your pain
[11:21] <elkbuntu> ignoring him. join in the 'earliest ubuntu cd' discussion, i want to wean him out of 'never used linux before'
[11:24] <jussi01> yay, for spence|away ...
[11:27] <ikonia> what is Hominghamster playing at
[11:27] <jussi01> sigh...
[11:27] <elkbuntu> he's lost his attention ;)
[11:27]  * elkbuntu wins
[11:28] <jpds> !scope > HomingHamster
[11:41] <gnomefreak> whos here that i can test an email on?
[11:42] <ikonia> sure
[11:42] <bazhang> :)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ikonia: can you pm me your email address
[11:42] <ikonia> done
[11:42] <bazhang> dmesg is dmseg?
[11:43] <ikonia> no
[11:43] <ikonia> I don't think so
[11:43] <bazhang> okay
[11:44] <gnomefreak> thats odd. ikonia i sent it let me know if it has key signature inline
[11:45] <ikonia> ok
[11:45] <ikonia> nope
[11:45] <ikonia> no key line
[11:46] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[11:46] <gnomefreak> thanks
[11:46] <ikonia> sorry
[11:47] <bazhang> gpg sig?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ikonia: can i send one more i just tweaked something
[11:48] <ikonia> sure
[11:48] <ikonia> keep 'em coming
[11:48] <gnomefreak> thanks
[11:48] <gnomefreak> that time i see it on the messages when sent
[11:48] <gnomefreak> let me know if it changes when you get it
[11:49] <ikonia> got you
[11:50] <ikonia> key included this time
[11:52] <bazhang> dmesg = evil (nickname) ?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks
[11:52] <ikonia> no problem
[11:52] <Myrtti> bazhang: ... suspected, yes.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> bazhang: possibly
[11:53] <ikonia> bazhang: possibly, I mentioned that earlier
[11:53] <bazhang> thought so
[12:38] <jussi01> Myrtti: any response on that email??
[12:38] <Myrtti> nope
[12:52] <Myrtti> I just witnessed a prompt usage of my /hellokitty in #ubuntu-women :-D
[13:18] <gnomefreak> i bought my sister those hellokity thinks years ago >10 years ago
[13:19] <gnomefreak> things
[13:20] <Pici> which hellokitty things?
[13:22] <gnomefreak> Pici: lunchbox stuffed one crap like that. its been well ove 10 years ago
[13:22] <gnomefreak> i cant remember if i ate breakfast this morning and its 8:22am now
[13:22] <Myrtti> I've got my velcro curlers in a blue HelloKitty metal lunchbox
[13:23]  * gnomefreak personally liked those rainbow bears(name escape me atm) and my little pony  and i dont mean for myself
[13:23] <gnomefreak> not my little pony that would be rainbow bright i think
[13:25] <Myrtti> carebears
[13:26]  * Hobbsee wonders if anyone's good with phones here
[13:29] <gnomefreak> ah yes them
[13:29] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i can make and recieve calls :)
[13:29] <Hobbsee> there's no way back from a bricked phone, is there?
[13:29] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: anything in particular?
[13:30] <Hobbsee> yeah.  ^
[13:30] <gnomefreak> bricked?
[13:30] <Hobbsee> yes.
[13:30] <Hobbsee> as in, attempted to flash it, which failed.
[13:30] <gnomefreak> ah
[13:30] <Hobbsee> i seriously doubt there is, but it's worth asking :)
[13:30] <gnomefreak> if a cell phoone your carrier should beable to help but you fixing it i highly doubt it
[13:31]  * gnomefreak wonders if they are going to fix Lp for me
[13:31] <Hobbsee> nto if i've just flashed it, they won't.
[13:32] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: oh
[13:32] <Hobbsee> that's fairly high on the "we will not support you if you do this"
[13:33] <gnomefreak> good point
[13:33] <Myrtti> which phone, btw?
[13:33] <Hobbsee> samsung z230
[13:33] <Hobbsee> nice flip phone, on a samsung scale.
[13:35] <Hobbsee> funny thing was, dad managed to flash his SE fine.
[13:38] <jussi01> Hobbsee: if you take it back, they can flash it for you using some special interface IIRC
[13:38] <Dave2> JTAG?
[13:39] <Hobbsee> jussi01: oh, will they do that?
[13:39] <jussi01> Hobbsee: I had it done to my n800 - dunno if they will do it for your phone
[13:39] <jussi01> Hobbsee: you can ask though
[13:42] <Hobbsee> jussi01: mmm.  i'll have to do that.
[13:43]  * Hobbsee is unsure how long it has until it breaks - it's having trouble charging too
[13:52] <flaccid> if someone could update topic in #kubuntu-kde4 so it mentions the just built RC1 of kde4 instead of the beta 2, that would great
[13:56] <jussi01> flaccid: we will look at it
[13:56] <flaccid> look?
[13:57] <jussi01> flaccid: yes, look - if we think it needs changing, then we will fix it
[13:57] <flaccid> why wouldn't it need changing?
[13:57] <flaccid> meh i'll stop being a pain...
[13:58] <flaccid> thanks mate
[13:58] <jussi01> sigh...
[14:18] <Myrtti> meh
[14:19] <Myrtti> today seems to be one of those days when I'm totally amazed by the ingeniousity of mankind. In contrast to two past days when the world was taken over by idiots.
[14:28] <elkbuntu> *ingenuity
[14:29] <elkbuntu> ubuntu on my eee, wheeeeee!
[14:29] <Hobbsee> \o/
[14:29] <Hobbsee> how well does it work?
[14:30] <elkbuntu> since the wifi patch didnt make it into hardy, awkwardly. driver is recompiled now, just waiting for the tweak script to finish. seems stalled on the eeexubuntu osd stuff
[14:34] <elkbuntu> whee, wasnt stalled, just taking it's time
[14:34] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: thanks
[14:45]  * gnomefreak scared of Myrtti, she uses very big words 
[14:56] <Myrtti> Pici: poit
[14:56]  * Hobbsee uses very small words on gnomefreak
[14:57] <gnomefreak> ;) thankful forr that, less i have to think
[14:57] <Hobbsee> you don't know what they do, though
[14:58] <Myrtti> Pici: unpoit
[14:59] <Jucato> !ping
[14:59] <Jucato> bot lag?
[14:59] <Jucato> hm.. seems like I lagged :)
[15:00] <Pici> Myrtti: unpoited
[15:39] <BugeyeD> please test me for the dcc-exploit; i wasn't sent to #ubuntu-read-topic but found the wiki page and wanted to be tested. here's what i get:
[15:39] <BugeyeD> 10:37 <@FloodBot1> BugeyeD: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type << /topic >> to find out how).
[15:41] <Myrtti> BugeyeD: try now
[15:42] <BugeyeD> Myrtti: working now, thanks.
[15:42] <Myrtti> np
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Myrti
[15:42] <Myrtti> moin Jack_Sparrow
[16:19] <Myrtti> here we go
[16:19] <Myrtti> 18:18 <+FloodBot1> WARNING: akaluzhny, kyleN, bfiller, tonyespy are all connected from  bismuth.canonical.com
[16:19] <Myrtti> LOLWHUT?!
[16:19] <Myrtti> :-P
[16:19] <bazhang> hehe
[16:19] <Myrtti> WARNINK WARNINK!
[16:19] <bazhang> the long awaited audit has arrived
[16:22] <Hobbsee> kline 'em!
[16:22] <ikonia> bazhang: where ?
[16:22] <Hobbsee> they're clearly up to no good!
[16:22] <bazhang> ikonia, the floodbots have alerted us
[16:22] <ikonia> ah
[16:23] <ikonia> audit attracted my attention
[16:26] <ikonia> whoaaaa
[16:26] <ikonia> unop has just changed his name to dmesg in ##linux
[16:26] <Myrtti> :-O
[16:26] <ikonia> ahhh it's not him
[16:27] <ikonia> someone uop - and it's dmseg
[16:27] <Myrtti> you scared the bejebus outta me
[16:27] <ikonia> myself too
[16:41] <Pici> o.O
[16:45] <ikonia> @btlogin
[17:12] <bazhang> thought xavura was banned in #ubuntu
[17:12] <Myrtti> so did I
[17:13] <bazhang> just checked ban tracker and nothing has been lifted
[17:13] <Myrtti> n=KX@host217-44-30-143.range217-44.btcentralplus.com
[17:13] <Myrtti> *!*@host86-154-222-147.range86-154.btcentralplus.com
[17:13] <bazhang> ban evading?
[17:13] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[17:14] <jussi01> right...
[17:15] <Myrtti> hmmm
[17:15] <bazhang> kb to here?
[17:15] <Myrtti> might be unintentional, but doubt it
[17:15] <bazhang> no chance
[17:15] <Myrtti> I'd let him be at #ubuntu but ask him to join here
[17:15] <Myrtti> because it needs to be talked
[17:15] <jussi01> see how he responds to being asked to join here
[17:18] <Myrtti> hiya
[17:18] <Xavura> Hey
[17:19] <Myrtti> feeling better than yesterday?
[17:20] <Xavura> Yeah, I'm calm and cool, yesterday was horrible in many regards
[17:20] <Myrtti> I was just wondering are you aware that technically you are still banned from #ubuntu?
[17:20] <Xavura> I am? I thought the ban had been lifted
[17:21] <Myrtti> nope, your ip has changed
[17:21] <Xavura> Because when joining it didn't say I was banned
[17:21] <Myrtti> host217-44-30-143.range217-44.btcentralplus.com
[17:21] <Xavura> Well my IP is dynamic and I turn my router off each night
[17:21] <Myrtti> versus
[17:21] <Myrtti> host86-154-222-147.range86-154.btcentralplus.com
[17:21] <Xavura> I didn't purposely, try to evade the ban or anything
[17:21] <Myrtti> ah.
[17:21] <Myrtti> so...
[17:21] <Xavura> Each time I turn off my router it totally changes
[17:21] <Xavura> According to my ISP
[17:22] <Myrtti> you certainly seem to be calmer now, have you given any thought on what went wrong with among other things, your behaviour yesterday?
[17:23] <Xavura> Well, it was just "one of those days" if you know what I mean? I had a lot going on, family, personal (and other things obviously)
[17:23] <Xavura> so I was really not in any mood to be talking to people to be honest
[17:23] <Xavura> I shouldn't have taken things out on strangers via IRC though, I know htis
[17:24] <Xavura> Especially ones who are trying to help
[17:24] <Myrtti> that's good to hear
[17:24] <Myrtti> I'll now take that ban off and make a note about it to our bantracker
[17:25] <Xavura> Should I leave #ubuntu? I'm not sure
[17:25] <Xavura> Oh, thank you
[17:25] <Myrtti> be aware though, that in the future, your name shall be in the records, and the next time might not be taken this lightly
[17:25] <Myrtti> I appreciate your apology, for that I believe it was and lift the ban now
[17:26] <Xavura> I can understand that
[17:26] <Myrtti> there
[17:27] <Myrtti> have a nice flight at #ubuntu
[17:27] <Xavura> Thanks
[17:29] <Myrtti> there
[17:29] <Myrtti> put notes on the tracker
[17:36] <bazhang> o.0
[17:36] <jussi01> bazhang: why the suprise?
[17:36] <bazhang> jussi01, the ban in #ubuntu just now
[17:37] <ikonia> mine ?
[17:37] <bazhang> yeah
[17:37] <jussi01> ikonia: what did you just do?
[17:37] <ikonia> if so it's just been undone
[17:37] <bazhang> looked serious :)
[17:37] <ikonia> I hit the damn scroll whell on the mouse
[17:37] <ikonia> half way through banning nixnoob_
[17:37] <bazhang> ugh nixnoob
[17:38] <ikonia> I was trying to scroll up the channel to get his host mask as the channel was moving quick
[17:38] <ikonia> just caching up
[17:38] <jussi01> ok, I didnt see the unban anywhere...
[17:38] <ikonia> jussi01: 2 seconds I'm just checking, irssi is giving me the channel not in sync error
[17:38] <ikonia> let me fix that and I'll remove the ban
[17:39] <ikonia> I thought an option in my config had resolved that
[17:39] <bazhang> not as bad as when I banned most of canada :)
[17:39] <ikonia> there we go
[17:39] <ikonia> sorry about that
[17:39] <ikonia> laptop scrollwheel = no no from now on
[17:40] <ikonia> jussi01: can you verify that ?
[17:40] <jussi01> ikonia: what?
[17:40] <ikonia> jussi01: can you just veriy that ban was lifted correctly please.
[17:40] <ikonia> or anyone
[17:41] <jussi01> looks fine here
[17:41] <ikonia> good good
[17:41] <ikonia> just checking
[17:41] <ikonia> right, let me get nixnoob_
[17:42] <ikonia> jussi01: is there a way to use auto_bleh retrospectivly ?
[17:42] <ikonia> out of interest
[17:42] <jussi01> ikonia: not that I know of
[17:42] <ikonia> didn't think so
[17:45] <ikonia> what is the correct synatax to banforward someone is it $user@host#forward-channel
[17:45] <gnomefreak> ikonia: not sure but if you add it to auto_bleh let me know
[17:46] <jussi01> gnomefreak: there is forward on autobleh
[17:46]  * gnomefreak sucks at perl
[17:46] <gnomefreak> ther eis?
[17:46] <ikonia> gnomefreak: can't see anything in the syntax for retro, but arf for ban forward
[17:46] <ikonia> afr
[17:46] <gnomefreak> not on mine atleast i never saw it
[17:46] <Myrtti> *!*@*!#channel
[17:46] <jussi01> gnomefreak: grab the one in #dib5sn
[17:46] <gnomefreak> what is #dib5sn?
[17:46] <gnomefreak> other than a channel
[17:47] <jussi01> gnomefreak: never mind ;)
[17:47] <gnomefreak> ok
[17:47] <jussi01> gnomefreak: just go look at the topic there :)
[17:48] <gnomefreak> description => 'Provides /ak /aq /ab /abr /abrn /arn /amb /amr /at',
[17:49] <jussi01> gnomefreak: did you read the whole topic?
[17:50] <gnomefreak> yes
[17:50] <jussi01> Now provides: /ak /ab /aq /ar /arn /abr /abrn /abk /abkn /at /afr /afrn /amb /amr /ambr /ambrn /ambk /ambkn /amfr /amfrn /alog
[17:50] <gnomefreak> yep
[17:51] <jussi01> gnomefreak: /afrn is autobleh foward remove notice
[17:51] <gnomefreak> trying to open link so i can read it first but it doesnt want to open so maybe wget andd than read
[17:51] <jussi01> yeah, just wget
[17:51] <ikonia> Myrtti: thanks
[17:52] <bazhang> nixnoob is back
[17:52] <gnomefreak> jussi01: are you sure site is working
[17:52] <gnomefreak> not getting anything from wget either
[17:53] <jussi01> gnomefreak: no, Im not - its not mine. ikonia has a current version though
[17:53] <jussi01> I do on my other server also
[17:53] <gnomefreak> ikonia: can you pastebin yours
[17:53] <ikonia> gnomefreak: sure can
[17:53] <ikonia> pastebin or mail it you /
[17:53] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks
[17:53] <gnomefreak> ikonia: either
[17:54] <gnomefreak> email would work
[17:54] <gnomefreak> pinging that link fails as well
[17:55] <ikonia> done
[17:55] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks i will look at it after lunhc
[17:55] <gnomefreak> lunch
[17:55] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: looks like compiz fix has been pushed
[17:56] <gnomefreak> atleast some of the packages
[17:57] <gnomefreak> ikonia: what address did you send it to?
[17:57] <ikonia> gmail
[17:57] <ikonia> gnomefreak: replied to your earlier message
[17:58] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i have 10 of them ;) ok i havent gotten it yet than
[17:58] <gnomefreak> ill check after lunch than. once g/f is done, she has to work on this pc since i didnt fix the other 3
[17:58] <gnomefreak> yet
[17:58] <ikonia> gnomefreak: the one you sent to me on, don't want to post it in the channel
[17:59] <gnomefreak> ikonia: ubuntu.ase or gnomefreak?
[17:59] <ikonia> ubuntu.ase
[17:59] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thats what i thought
[17:59] <ikonia> sorry had to check
[17:59] <gnomefreak> its ok
[18:00] <ikonia> nixnoob_: hello
[18:00] <gnomefreak> that file shouldnt be that big that it tkes this long
[18:00] <ikonia> god no
[18:00] <nixnoob_> ikonia: what do you want. every time i talk to you you are extremely rude.
[18:01] <gnomefreak> ok ill check later, maybe ill get it than oh hell lunch can wait this looks too good to leave
[18:01] <ikonia> nixnoob_: asking someone to look up an option them selves because I'm not going to do it and it's an obcure option is not rude
[18:01] <nixnoob_> dude this is not the first time.
[18:01] <ikonia> nixnoob_: you called me a "dick" and parted, waited on line for 5 minutes then returned to the channel
[18:01] <nixnoob_> i didnt mean to part
[18:01] <nixnoob_> im using ssh
[18:01] <nixnoob_> connection got mangled
[18:01] <ikonia> ok, thats understandable,
[18:02] <ikonia> nixnoob_: what about calling someone a dick ?
[18:02] <nixnoob_> not nice but im all about treating as i was treated
[18:02] <nixnoob_> like i said that wasnt the first time
[18:03] <bazhang> nixnoob_, name calling is right out.
[18:03] <ikonia> nixnoob_: you where asked to look up /proc/cpu options for yourself as they are pretty obscure
[18:03] <nixnoob_> you could just say you dont kno
[18:03] <ikonia> I didn't know of the top of my head, hence why I said look them up - I'm not going to
[18:04] <ikonia> they are quite obscure
[18:04] <nixnoob_> not to insinuate that you kno and you wnt tell me
[18:04] <ikonia> I didn't
[18:04] <nixnoob_> i kno that and thats why i was asking.
[18:04] <ikonia> I said look it up - I'm not going to
[18:04] <ikonia> "I'm not going to " implies I don't know either
[18:04] <ikonia> nixnoob_: if you had hung around for a minute before calling me a dick I was getting you the doc url
[18:04] <nixnoob_> well i missed that part
[18:04] <nixnoob_> forget it.
[18:04] <nixnoob_> i figured it out anyway and im sorry we had this misunderstanding.
[18:05] <ikonia> even if you missed that part to call someone a dick is not acceptable
[18:06] <nixnoob_> you kno im here all the time helping people just like you the least i can get is a curtious response
[18:06] <nixnoob_> i missed or misunderstood your statement
[18:06] <bazhang> nixnoob_, calling names is never appropriate
[18:06] <ikonia> you asked I said you'll have to look it up as I'm not going to
[18:07] <ikonia> thats not rude, you then responded with "your a dick" and your connection dropped rather quickly after that
[18:07] <ikonia> yet you where online still
[18:07] <ikonia> just not in the channel
[18:07] <ikonia> as I said if you had not called me a name and left I was getting you the URL
[18:07] <nixnoob_> i have two users running.
[18:08] <nixnoob_> anyway
[18:08] <nixnoob_> there is no reason to discuss it anymore it was a misunderstanding
[18:08] <ikonia> calling someone a dick is not a missunderstanding, you agree that that's not acceptable and not going to happen again ?
[18:09] <nixnoob_> yea if i had a problem i shouldve pmed u and not said it in the channel
[18:09] <ikonia> no - you shouldn't have called someone a name in public or in a channel
[18:09] <nixnoob_> not that calling u a dick in pm is any better
[18:09] <ikonia> thats fair enough
[18:10] <ikonia> so a little more thought before so quick on the insults, in public/in private ?
[18:10] <nixnoob_> dont worry
[18:10] <ikonia> thank you, the bans removed in #ubuntu for you now
[18:10] <nixnoob_> lol
[18:11] <nixnoob_> thanks
[18:11] <ikonia> why is that funny ?
[18:11] <nixnoob_> well you do understand that a ban would not be effective anyway but i dont want to offend
[18:11] <ikonia> nixnoob_: it was effective, you where removed from the channel
[18:11] <nixnoob_> very very very temporarily
[18:12] <nixnoob_> im not going to go into this and piss you off
[18:12] <nixnoob_> its not necessary to circumvent the ban so there is no issue
[18:12] <nixnoob_> thank you
[18:12] <nixnoob_> good day
[18:12] <bazhang> nixnoob_, best to part now
[18:12] <ikonia> bazhang: is he normally an issue ?
[18:13] <ikonia> you suggested you where aware of him ?
[18:13] <bazhang> ikonia, just the comment he made to you; and some offtopic stuff earlier.
[18:13] <ikonia> ok, so not a regular
[18:13] <bazhang> hardly
[18:13] <ikonia> good good
[18:14] <ikonia> just curious to if his banevading comments where based on "experience"
[18:14] <gnomefreak> ikonia: can you please pastebin it gmails is fudged up something awful
[18:14] <bazhang> he gave away the game on that one :)
[18:14] <ikonia> gnomefreak: no problem
[18:15] <gnomefreak> ikonia: thanks
[18:15] <Pici> Some people seem to think that theres no problem with ban evasion, then again, the channels that they do that in probably don't have an experienced ops team like ours
[18:16] <bazhang> or as nal-ioth says: the k-line always gets them :)
[18:17] <Myrtti> catching the k-train
[18:17] <bazhang> haha
[18:17] <Pici> choo-choo\
[18:17] <Myrtti> would you be loverly people and see if tracepath myrtti.fi ends up to somewhere in the general direction of kirahvi.com?
[18:17] <ikonia> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/f27c49450
[18:18] <gnomefreak> thanks
[18:18]  * gnomefreak having really bad day
[18:18] <jpds> Myrtti: 8:  vhost.kapsi.fi (217.30.184.170)
[18:18] <Myrtti> whee
[18:18] <Pici> vhost.kapsi.fi (217.30.184.170)  too
[18:18] <Myrtti> of course, I get the nameserver update last
[18:18] <Pici> 13 hops though :/
[18:18] <Myrtti> as usual
[18:18] <Myrtti> I get only 9!
[18:18] <Myrtti> to wrong address.
[18:19] <Pici> Although two of them from my router. /shrug
[18:20] <Myrtti> thank you
[18:21] <Myrtti> "can't login to my virtual server with ssh, changed the domain to point to kapsi. The virtual not working MIGHT be a result of a SMS sent on Saturday about getting a written permission to shove someone to the sea."
[18:21] <Myrtti> just... /might/
[18:37] <PriceChild> I notice Flannel was added to ubuntu-irc on launchpad.
[18:38] <PriceChild> ah he has been given access in places..
[18:38] <PriceChild> ignore me :)
[18:39] <bazhang> :)
[18:40] <jussi01> @now london
[18:41] <Myrtti> hm
[18:41] <jpds> That meeting was cancelled
[18:50] <LetsGo67> Why am I banned from #xubuntu?
[18:50] <ompaul> @btlogin
[18:51] <Myrtti> 19 - #xubuntu: ban *!*@74.12.180.* [by reynolds.freenode.net, 10298753 secs  ago]
[18:51] <LetsGo67> Yeah but why?
[18:51] <ompaul> lets find out
[18:51] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[18:51]  * ompaul goes poking the interwebs
[18:51] <ompaul> Myrtti, not there
[18:51] <ompaul> we got to poke real logs .org
[18:52] <Myrtti> that hostname is somewhat familiar though
[18:52] <Flannel> PriceChild: I aven't been given some places
[18:53] <ompaul> Flannel, we don't have em all
[18:53] <ompaul> k is not u etc
[18:53] <LetsGo67> Why?
[18:53] <bazhang> me wants -ot
[18:53] <ompaul> LetsGo67, wait
[18:53] <ompaul> we will find it
[18:53] <Myrtti> bazhang: no you don't
[18:53] <Myrtti> really, you don't
[18:53] <bazhang> No I dont :)
[18:53] <Flannel> ompaul: I meant like @login and stuff
[18:53] <Flannel> @login
[18:54] <ompaul> jussi01, ^^^^^^^ please fix
[18:54] <bazhang> LetsGo67, why are you asking about basicLinux in Ubuntu channels?
[18:54] <jussi01> Flannel: Ill get to it soon. bit busy just now
[18:55] <ompaul> bazhang, how long ago?
[18:55] <bazhang> just now ompaul in kubuntu, ubuntu
[18:55] <ompaul> LetsGo67, well that seems like the kind of thing that does not go down too well
[18:56] <Flannel> jussi01: No worries, just want to make sure the right people know (and wasn't sure who that was)
[18:56] <nalioth> Flannel: patience
[18:57] <LetsGo67> ompaul: but why was I banned?
[18:57] <ompaul> LetsGo67, I don't have logs I am trying to locate that
[18:57] <ompaul> but it seems your subnet - ergo it would appear that someone on that network was behaving in a rather bad way
[18:58] <ompaul> you don't get a subnet ban for being onetime bad
[18:58] <ompaul> so you can look to your network neighbours
[18:58] <LetsGo67> So someone else in Ottawa using Bell Internet was bad?
[18:59] <nalioth> LetsGo67: it's not unusual for this to happen
[18:59] <LetsGo67> Thanks.
[19:00] <ompaul> now where are the xubuntu ops and what do they think - and can we find the particular reason
[19:00] <Myrtti> also, might've been that you had a flippityfloppity connections some day
[19:00] <Myrtti> and were banned because of that
[19:00]  * ompaul can't get a grip on logs
[19:00] <Myrtti> ompaul: toss me an url
[19:01] <ompaul> Myrtti, only the irclogs.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <ompaul> impossible to search
[19:01]  * ompaul wonders about asking elmo for a favour
[19:01] <ompaul> I might get denied or not
[19:03] <Myrtti> well I took the ban off
[19:03] <Myrtti> as I do have enough oppage at x
[19:04] <ompaul> ack
[19:04] <ompaul> LetsGo67, so it was not you persay or maybe it was but
[19:05] <PriceChild> I have xubuntu logs (missing a small amount yesterday morning though)
[19:05] <ompaul> PriceChild, search for *!*@74.12.180.*
[19:05] <PriceChild> does ubottu not track bans there?
[19:05] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[19:05] <ompaul> not going back far enough
[19:05] <PriceChild> oh :/
[19:06] <ompaul> PriceChild, please allow us some credit, I don't have dementia yet ;-P
[19:06]  * ompaul chuckles
[19:06] <Pici> 'yet'
[19:06] <jussi01> rofl
[19:07] <Myrtti> ompaul: I'll mail you the FLUG shirt home, but I've got a special treat for you
[19:07] <ompaul> Pici, shhhhh
[19:08] <ompaul> Myrtti, ack
[19:08] <ompaul> thanks
[19:08] <PriceChild> I guess I'm missing it in my logs.
[19:08] <ompaul> PriceChild, I guess it was a long time ago
[19:08] <PriceChild> Meh, move on I guess.
 19 - #xubuntu: ban *!*@74.12.180.* [by reynolds.freenode.net, 10298753 secs  ago]
[19:08] <ompaul> thats a lot of seconds
[19:09] <Myrtti> 120 days
[19:10] <Myrtti> If I calculated correctly
[19:10] <ompaul> 120 days
[19:10] <Myrtti> ((10 298 753 / 60) / 60) / 24 = 119.19853
[19:10] <ompaul> that would be that time we don't want to remember
[19:10] <ompaul> year
[19:10] <ompaul> yeap that works
[19:10] <ompaul> LetsGo67, is there something else we can do for you?
[19:10]  * ompaul will wear a kaffka tee for Friday! 
[19:11] <Myrtti> I'll wear pink at the airport :-P
[19:11]  * ompaul wonder where that extra f came from
[19:11] <ompaul> I was given a red hat tee by one of their senior consultants .....
[19:11] <ompaul> and at that point he knew I had gnewsense
[19:11] <Myrtti> twas funny, first time we met with jussi01, he was wearing Ubuntu Studio shirt and I was of course in pink. Knew each other right away :-P
[19:12] <ompaul> was he winding me
[19:12] <ompaul> LetsGo67, is there something else we can do for you? (please note the topic)
[19:13]  * ompaul plays some Bedlam in Belgium
[19:13]  * ompaul track skips
[19:13] <ompaul> some aerosmith
[19:13] <Myrtti> ompaul: have you seen the Radiohead - House of Cards video yet?
[19:13] <ompaul> no
[19:13] <ompaul> that would imply a few things :)
[19:14] <Myrtti> ompaul: http://code.google.com/creative/radiohead/
[19:14] <ompaul> LetsGo67, ehh what else can we do for you?
[19:14] <Myrtti> totally AWESOME
[19:14]  * Pici wants a realtime 3d scanner
[19:15] <jussi01> Flannel: please now try @login
[19:15] <Flannel> @login
[19:15] <jussi01> :)
[19:15]  * ompaul cheers jussi01 for excellent work
[19:16] <jussi01> Flannel: now try making a factoid - you know how to do that? (use !flannel or something)
[19:18] <Flannel> !cookies is Cookies are delicious delicacies.
[19:18] <Flannel> !cookies
[19:18] <Flannel> hmm
[19:19] <Pici> You probably want a <reply> in there
[19:19] <bazhang> need the <reply>
[19:19] <jussi01> Flannel: you need to add <reply>
[19:19] <jussi01> heheh
[19:19] <PriceChild> Flannel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#head-939476c21aa571518530bf85c289d95cd7279ee6
[19:19] <Flannel> !cookies is <reply> Cookies are delicious delicacies.
[19:19] <Flannel> !forget cookies
[19:19] <Flannel> !cookies is <reply> Cookies are delicious delicacies.
[19:19] <PriceChild> Flannel: oddness arises when factoids are deleted
[19:19] <ompaul> !cookies
[19:19] <jussi01> !remember cookies
[19:19] <PriceChild> Flannel: you need to 'unforget', then prefix with 'no'
[19:19] <jussi01> !unforget cookies
[19:19] <Flannel> oh, right. no.
[19:20] <ompaul> !no cookies are <reply> full of stuff that you may be able to eat!
[19:20] <ompaul> !cookies are <reply> full of stuff that you may be able to eat!
[19:20] <Flannel> ubottu: no, cookies is <reply> Cookies are delicious delicacies.
[19:20] <Flannel> !cookies
[19:20] <ompaul> !no cookies are <reply> full of stuff that you may be able to eat!
[19:20] <jussi01> is...
[19:20] <ompaul> !no cookies is <reply> full of stuff that you may be able to eat!
[19:20] <ompaul> yaerp
[19:20] <PriceChild> Flannel: also aliases cannot be made from scratch. you need to make a blank factoid then "no foo is <alias>"
[19:21] <PriceChild> Flannel: we have #ubuntu-bots for testing
[19:21] <Flannel> PriceChild: make foo, then alias it, right?
[19:21] <PriceChild> yup
[19:21] <jussi01> !test
[19:21] <jussi01> !test1
[19:21] <bazhang> unforget :)
[19:21] <jussi01> !test1 is <alias>test
[19:22] <jussi01> PriceChild: we fixed it
[19:22] <bazhang> !gusty
[19:22] <jussi01> :)
[19:22] <bazhang> that is so funny
[19:22] <PriceChild> jussi01: ah cool :)
[19:22] <Flannel> PriceChild: so, forget is a flag, not an actual removal of the factoid
[19:22] <PriceChild> yup
[19:22] <PriceChild> !forget test1
[19:23] <PriceChild> !search test
[19:23] <PriceChild> !search test1
[19:23] <jussi01> LetsGo67: can we help you more?
[19:23] <LetsGo67> No, I will part.
[19:23] <PriceChild> Flannel: notice the * above, indicating deletion
[19:23] <Flannel> Aye
[19:23] <jpds> ...
[19:23] <jussi01> Flannel: anything you do can and will be recorded :P
[19:24] <jussi01> jpds: rofl - thats your own fault
[19:24] <bazhang> as well as audited
[19:25] <ompaul> bazhang, and altered for PR purposes
[19:25] <bazhang> hehe
[19:25] <ompaul> which leads to fun while you silently repudiate in pm all the lacking context to what appears to be _bad_ stuff tm
[19:26] <ompaul> yeas
[19:26] <bazhang> talk about psyops
[19:27] <Myrtti> I'll get me coat
[19:27] <Tm_T> don't let go the goat
[19:27] <Myrtti> not you too
[19:28] <Myrtti> Dave2: J'ACCUSE!
[19:28] <Dave2> !
[19:30] <jussi01> lads and ladies, I need to restart the server after the kernel update. This means we will have no bot for a short period.
[19:30]  * Myrtti logs into xob and crosses her fingers
[19:30] <Pici> jussi01: OHNO
[19:31] <jussi01> Pici: is that a problem right now?
[19:32] <Myrtti> jussi01: I'm ready
[19:32] <Myrtti> just wgetted the database
[19:32] <jussi01> great. someone go help incorrect in #k while I go restart
[19:32] <Myrtti> Tm_T: ^
[19:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: choo.
[19:33] <Tm_T> sorry, cant
[19:33] <Myrtti> damnit
[19:33] <jussio1> Im still kinda here :D
[19:34]  * nalioth sets a trap for Mr. Peer
[19:37] <Myrtti> would someone tell me what's wrong with "wget -qr -P ~/bot/ http://jussi01.com/<file>" as a crontab job?
[19:37] <Myrtti> (timings omitted)
[19:39] <ompaul> does the wget return an error?
[19:39] <Myrtti> no?
[19:39] <ompaul> welcome back bot
[19:39] <ompaul> does it get the file?
[19:39] <Myrtti> according to my logs, no
[19:39] <ompaul> ok - does it need a sheel
[19:40] <Myrtti> although, now it says it does
[19:40] <Myrtti> oh well
[19:40] <ompaul> sorry let me start again I got the wrong 2question
[19:40] <jussi01> hrm
[19:40] <ompaul> does the command line work
[19:40] <Myrtti> yes
[19:41] <Myrtti> jussi01: yes? :-P
[19:41] <jussi01> ahh, there she is
[19:41] <ompaul> welcome back bot
[19:42]  * ompaul does some mad stuff
[19:42]  * ompaul regrets network cables left in work
[19:42] <ompaul> they are his own
[19:42]  * ompaul grumbles
[19:43] <Myrtti> hm.
[19:44] <ompaul> FK the original anti hero writer?
[19:44] <ompaul> or was there someone before him
[19:46]  * ompaul visits
[19:47] <PriceChild> !botabuse | zbrahead91
[19:49]  * PriceChild wonders if he has admin access
 In #ubuntu-uk, zbrahead91 said: !how regular is regular
[19:51] <ompaul> zbrahead91, please don't do !foo is bar
[19:51] <ompaul> cos it echos in here
[19:51] <ompaul> and then if we are not looking directly at this channel we tend to check incase of something we should be involved in
[19:52] <ompaul> it is only a computer and a database
[19:54] <PriceChild> zbrahead91: anything else we can help you with? I'm not sure why you joined in the first place :)
[19:54] <zbrahead91> Joined this?
[19:54] <zbrahead91> So I could see the ubottu :P
[19:54] <PriceChild> yup
[19:55] <jussi01> right...
[19:55] <Myrtti> roight.
[19:55] <ompaul> cos I told him that his silly !foo is bar was echoed here
[19:56] <Pici> ooookay
[19:57] <PriceChild> ah ok
[19:57] <Myrtti> I was almost shaking my head and saying "kids who barely can read... pft." but then I realized I'm turning 28 >month away and 17 year olds do actually know how to read, it's just that I can't do arithmetic and count that they're not exactly five y o
[19:57] <Myrtti> <month, even.
[19:58] <Myrtti> ho hum.
[19:58] <Pici> What date?
[19:58] <Myrtti> a wednesday
[19:58]  * PriceChild resists joking about Myrtti's age
[19:58] <Myrtti> :-P
[19:58] <Pici> ;P
[20:04] <ompaul> Pici, you is answered in an encrypted format with several different outcomes
[20:07] <ompaul> don't stress the small stuff, its all small stuff
[20:07]  * ompaul becomes wise old man in corner
[20:08] <ompaul> Tm_T, go say it :)
[20:08] <Myrtti> ompaul: I'll just limp with my walking stick beside you this weekend :-P
[20:09] <ompaul> hahahaa
[20:09] <ompaul> drink lots of water feed muscles
[20:09] <Myrtti> taking a sip once in a while from my flask
[20:09] <Myrtti> :-P
[20:09] <Myrtti> "goddamn youth, when I was young..."
[20:10] <ompaul> cheeky whippersnappers, why in my day .....
[20:15] <Tm_T> ompaul: ghhhhh (too old to say it)
[20:15] <ompaul> Tm_T, :)
[20:16]  * ompaul buys Tm_T a cup of horlicks and has one hisself
[20:18] <Tm_T> nice :)
[20:27] <Pici> kinky
[20:34] <ompaul> Pici, ehh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horlicks
[20:35]  * ompaul raises an eyebrow and and glances at Pici 
[20:35]  * ompaul rocks out to aslan a dublin band 
[20:37] <Myrtti> Aleksi licks my arm :-P
[20:39] <ompaul> the happy little guinea pig
[20:40]  * ompaul goes to check out aslan web site
[20:40] <Myrtti> hey don't eat my tux shirt
[20:52] <jussi01> tuhina is seeming more happy today, for which Im thankful - still a little fearful about the leg though
[20:52] <Myrtti> this one almost fell asleep on my arm
[20:54] <Myrtti> goddamnit
[20:55] <Myrtti> and now he peed on me
[20:56] <jussi01> rofl
[20:56] <Tm_T> nice
[20:56] <PriceChild> ompaul: aslan website?
[21:07] <jussi01> right....
[21:08] <PriceChild> looking into it
[21:09] <jussi01> PriceChild: how is the new job going?
[21:09] <PriceChild> K-lined
[21:09] <PriceChild> No, I haven't been klined from new job, but fuzzles was.
[21:09] <PriceChild> jussi01: great thanks, been going through orientation, training etc.
[21:10] <ikonia> PriceChild: what are you doing now ?
[21:10] <jussi01> cool - what is the job description? seems I missed that before?
[21:10] <jussi01> hehe
[21:11] <PriceChild> It seems to depend on where you read it, but Technical Support, Helpdesk thing.
[21:12] <ikonia> super
[21:12] <PriceChild> But its far from a call centre... and will be doing some travelling around clients and things.
[21:12] <jussi01> PriceChild: nice!
[21:12] <PriceChild> I'm very happy :)
[21:12] <ikonia> PriceChild: where is base camp ?
[21:12] <PriceChild> ikonia: Birmingham.
[21:12] <ikonia> thats a reasonable move for you ?
[21:13] <PriceChild> I just bus/train/walk in each day.
[21:13] <ikonia> I meant I didn't think you where birmingham based before
[21:13] <PriceChild> I'm from the midlands, went up north for uni.
[21:13] <ikonia> ahh
[21:13] <ikonia> so a return to the mother ship
[21:14] <PriceChild> ikonia: lrl at the weekend? :P
[21:14] <ikonia> yes
[21:14] <PriceChild> didn't expect that
[21:14] <PriceChild> was starting to type out a "well that's not good enough"
[21:14] <ikonia> ha ha
[21:15] <ikonia> %90 certain, I have a work commitment on Friday with a friend who I actually thought was doing a talk there, but it turns out he's not, but he's driving us straight from the commitment
[21:15] <PriceChild> So that's 6 of us?
[21:16] <ikonia> I know ompaul is going
[21:16] <ompaul> I is
[21:16] <jussi01> wow, you guys can have myrtti's -ops "pillow fight" then
[21:16] <jussi01> :P
[21:17] <ompaul> heh
[21:17] <Myrtti> jussi01: I'll snuggle with ompaul aaaaaalll weekend
[21:17] <ompaul> I doubt it
[21:17] <PriceChild> jussi01: 'you'? and what pathetic excuse do you have?
[21:17] <Myrtti> X-D
[21:17] <ompaul> news to me
[21:17]  * ompaul looks on in humour
[21:17] <jussi01> PriceChild: Im broke?
[21:17] <Myrtti> I did threaten to kidnap him though
[21:18] <Myrtti> but it's a bit hard since he's so far away from me
[21:18] <ompaul> jussi01, not broke enough sell your interwebs to a spammer for $1,000,000 dollars
[21:18] <jussi01> ompaul: ROFL
[21:18] <ompaul> clikz on dez linkz
[21:18] <jussi01> ompaul: I added google adds to my blog.. doubt thatll help much
[21:19] <ompaul> not in time methinks
[21:19] <ompaul> which is why you needz spammerz
[21:19] <ompaul> :)
[21:20] <ompaul> and for those who don't know, I have been quoted as saying bad things about spammers :)
[21:20] <jussi01> ompaul: you have been quoted sayng bad things about many people...
[21:20] <jussi01> :P
[21:20] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY
[21:20] <ompaul> mostly idiots :)
[21:21] <ompaul> jussi01, at least I am not totally like linus "if you don't agree with me you are stupid and ugly"
[21:21] <jussi01> hahahah
[21:21] <ikonia> did linus really say jussi01 was stupid AND ugly ?
[21:21] <ompaul> yes
[21:22] <ompaul> hahaha
[21:22]  * ompaul rofl
[21:22] <ompaul> someone pick me up off the floor
[21:22] <ompaul> I can't get up for the laughing
[21:23] <ikonia> get up
[21:23] <Myrtti> have I shown you this? http://tunkio.panettaa.org/src/1206647648872.png
[21:23] <Myrtti> that's my old colleague
[21:23] <ompaul> jussi01, I read ikonia's statement without the jussi01 I saw the "AND" so I looked to the end of the line and typed yes and then as I hit enter I saw your name
[21:23] <jussi01> hahahah
[21:24] <ompaul> hahaha
[21:24] <ompaul> ergo the hahahaha straight away
[21:24] <jussi01> PriceChild: you still dont beleive Im an aussie, do you?
[21:24] <PriceChild> not at all
[21:24] <Myrtti> caption "sure you can wade forward in a puddle of shit", commented Manu Setälä of COSS on describing OOXML approval in Finland
[21:24] <ikonia> ha ha
[21:24] <PriceChild> isn't it handy you won't be at lrl to prove it
[21:24] <ompaul> haha
[21:25] <Myrtti> and that picture was in a high profile Finnish ICT newssite
[21:25] <jussi01> ok, dont everyone get this at once - or you will kill ubottu, but: http://jussi01.com/upload/uploads/20080716-231238-16072008024.mp4
[21:25] <ompaul> PriceChild, hmm we have Myrtti claiming it was an auzzie accent - but .... what would a shelia know
[21:25]  * ompaul runs and hides in the aforementioned puddle
[21:25] <ompaul> yuk
[21:25]  * ompaul picks jussi01 up
[21:26] <ompaul> stop laughing
[21:26] <ompaul> this is just silly
[21:26] <ompaul> AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT - ME DOING CAPS
[21:26] <Myrtti> aws ♥
[21:27]  * ompaul listens to more aslan
[21:27] <ompaul> and just lays back
[21:29] <jussi01> ompaul: Id forggoten how good aslan is :)
[21:31] <ompaul> jussi01, heh
[21:31] <ompaul> you can't forget
[21:31] <ompaul> it is not possible
[21:31] <ompaul> every day you should wake up to Here comes lucy jones
[21:31] <Myrtti> I was going to /hellokitty him
[21:32] <jussi01> another kline mcoming PriceChild?
[21:32] <Myrtti> ompaul: LOOOOOLLLL
[21:32] <Myrtti> THE MOST EPIC BAN EVER: 23:32 @,- mode/#ubuntu [+d *?I'm?too?lame?to?read?BitchX.doc?*] by ompaul
[21:32] <Myrtti> let this day be remembered in the history of #ubuntu IRC
[21:32] <ompaul> well if you can't read the docs you should not be using it :)
[21:33] <jussi01> ompaul: now Im going to have to go buy some music - damn you
[21:33] <ompaul> ehh help I can't remove it
[21:33] <Myrtti> LOL
[21:33] <ompaul> it is default for bitchx
[21:33] <Myrtti> ompaul: let it be there by all means
[21:33] <jussi01> ompaul: epic FAIL
[21:33] <PriceChild> jussi01: we'll see
[21:33] <jussi01> PriceChild: did you see the video?
[21:33] <PriceChild> nope, will do later
[21:34] <ompaul> PriceChild, help kill that +d please Im too lame to read script
[21:34] <ompaul> :)
[21:34]  * ompaul goes back to try again 
[21:34] <PriceChild> jussi01: done
[21:34] <jussi01> PriceChild: :)
[21:34] <nalioth> some peoples kids  <sigh>
[21:35] <ompaul> PriceChild, I have no idea why my script failed - I have to look now
[21:35] <ompaul> I will leave the jason there for half an hour
[21:35]  * jussi01 hugs nalioth
[21:41] <jussi01> ok, nini everyone
[21:42] <Myrtti> nini
[21:42] <ompaul> jussi01, sleep well- then tomorrow may the road rise to meet you
[21:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> who removed the ban on xavura
[21:48] <PriceChild> Jack_Smirnoff: Any reason why you are interested in this?
[21:48] <PriceChild> (Identify if you think we'd know you)
[21:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> I set the ban
[21:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> My pc is busy, I am on alt laptop
[21:48] <Myrtti> right
[21:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> darn little keyboards
[21:49] <Myrtti> hold on, I'll look this one feller first
[21:49] <ompaul> Jack_Smirnoff, ehh care to prove you are what you is - i.e. cloak up
[21:50] <ompaul> or in a pm something we both know - recently
[21:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> I cant get to my ub box until a drive is finished formatting under windows
[21:50] <ompaul> I can vouch for Jack_Smirnoff as being Mr sparrow ;-)
[21:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> ty
[21:51] <Myrtti> ok, he said he has a habit of turning off his router for the night and getting a new ip that way so he entered the channel regardless the ban
[21:51] <ompaul> pm had  info that was unique to us
[21:51] <PriceChild> Has he been a pain since rejoining?
[21:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> Just someone to watch
[21:51] <Myrtti> he apologized (sorta, I think it was nice) so I removed the ban since I didn't see him acting badly at the time
[21:52] <Myrtti> and I did comment his bans on the bantracker
[21:52] <Myrtti> and kick too
[21:52] <Jack_Smirnoff> np.. just keep an eye on him..
[21:53] <Jack_Smirnoff> I planned on removing the ban and to see him back with a new ip  set off red flags
[21:53] <Myrtti> 19:25 -'@: be aware though, that in the future, your name shall be in the records, and  the next time might not be taken this lightly
[21:53] <Myrtti> 19:25 -'@: I appreciate your apology, for that I believe it was and lift the ban now
[21:53] <Myrtti> 19:26 < Xavura> I can understand that
[21:53] <ompaul> game on
[21:54] <Myrtti> so.
[21:54] <ompaul> these are the hands of a tired man .....
[21:54] <mneptok> the hand speaks! the hand of a government man.
[21:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> ouch
[21:54] <ompaul> mneptok, no Aslan
[21:54] <ompaul> This Is
[21:54]  * ompaul groks some rockin
[21:55] <Myrtti> I should wipe the floors
[21:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> 99% on my windows drive format  weeeeeee!
[21:57]  * Myrtti plays Radiohead once again
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah.. done
[22:05] <ompaul> kew
[22:05] <ompaul> l
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> I just remastered XP with nlite, then remastered my nlite with vistamizer for all of the cutezie parts.
[22:29] <Myrtti> AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH this is SO #ubuntu-ops
[22:29] <Myrtti> http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135237256599
[22:29] <Myrtti> "Screams of help" "This means a task for THE SUPERDOG!"
[22:30] <Myrtti> well, atleast that's how I sometimes feel.
[22:32] <ompaul> hahahaa
[22:33] <Myrtti> and now for something completely different: http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135236319599
[22:33] <ompaul> thanks but no thanks
[22:37] <Pici> Myrtti: Is that what I think it is?
[22:38] <Myrtti> what, where?
[22:38] <Pici> Myrtti: the eunich cat cartoon?
[22:38] <Myrtti> mmmm yes? what about it?
[22:38] <Pici> Myrtti: nevermind
[22:39] <Pici> english vs. finnish cat onomatopoeia
[22:39] <Myrtti> yeah
[22:40] <Myrtti> http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135237601903 "come right now away from that man!"
[22:40] <Pici> hehe
[22:42] <mneptok> "watch out for Surtsey between the knees"
[22:48] <Myrtti> http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135237030850 "now I know why they call him Pooh"
[23:03] <nalioth> klined
[23:03] <nalioth> some peoples kids  <sigh>
[23:04] <Pici> indeed.
[23:08] <nalioth> it's gonne be a rough ride for a bit, it seems
[23:09] <Pici> Is that what your staffersense is telling you?
[23:09] <tomaw> yes
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Spidy-Sense
[23:10] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: exactly ;)
[23:29] <Myrtti> !prayer
[23:32] <Pici> Myrtti: Have you changed your mind since your comment earlier today?
[23:32] <Myrtti> no, this individual just is an exception
[23:33] <Pici> Okay ;)
[23:36] <Myrtti> "can I fit 64-bit peg thru a 32-bit hole? Sure, just cram it with enough force"
[23:36] <Myrtti> USE THE FORCE!
[23:38] <nalioth> Pici: yahoo messenger/msn messenger/etc allow you to share your friends list
[23:38] <nalioth> Pici: the guy is from brazil and doens't speak english very well
[23:39] <nalioth> not very familiar with irc, either
[23:39] <Pici> nalioth: I didnt even know IRC had friends lists
[23:39] <nalioth> Pici: it _doesnt_
[23:39] <Pici> Exactly ;)