[00:00] Xavura No, as far as I know, you are only banned from ubuntu [00:00] if you ask an X11 question, why would you be directed to #ubuntu ? [00:00] Isn't it specific to Ubuntu? What's X11? [00:01] X11 can be found on every operating system in teh world [00:01] it is what you are asking about [00:01] Eh [00:01] Alright then. [00:01] please read the /topic [00:02] I did the first time I came but [00:02] I wasn't aware it was specific to all OS', I thought it was different for each OS/Distro [00:02] Xavura Clearly, this is the wrong channel for your questions, please /part [00:07] What else can I try other than debian and kubuntu? [00:07] I don't even know any other distros [00:07] Xavura: waht part of "every operating system in the world" is not clear? [00:08] you might get help in ##linux [00:08] Xavura Go to either of those and ask your question [00:08] or even #help [00:08] or even thanks for the sarcasm === Pici` is now known as Pici [01:59] In ubottu, eramax said: my problem is :-(need help) i always install ubuntu and after adding alot of programes from internet or any where i get a problem that make me need to remove the dist any way to solve these problem ; i listen about backup and if so can i make a backup that can i restore my dist with its programes in any computer to work with other hardware environment;thanks [02:29] ikonia: that's not spam. you should have that on highlight. [02:30] ikonia: visit it, if you want, but clear your cache, etc, afterwards. [02:37] what did i miss, Hobbsee ? [02:38] nalioth: nothing :) [02:38] (you already commented on it) [02:38] Hobbsee: ok [02:38] * nalioth was just wondering why his highlights weren't highlighting . . . [02:39] i've no idea - mine triggered [03:30] I appologize for asking this here, but I didn't know of another place that would know, I have joined my channel with another's and know how to "un-join", and undo the redirect, if I wanted to, would it be easier to just start all over? [03:31] *and want to know how,,, sorry [03:33] SeaPhor: /msg chanserv help invite [03:33] SeaPhor: invite yourself to the original channel [03:34] i can access the original, how do i undo the join? [03:34] For tips and information on channel and user modes and management, see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml SeaPhor [03:34] ty [03:47] ... [03:51] yay, limcore.... ugh [03:51] yep. [04:09] * mneptok cranks some Cocteau Twins [05:20] alraune it's probably your real name, some words have a blanket ban [05:21] quest: is there a chat (channel) for people though knowing little linux can chat about whatever ? [05:21] alraune change your real name, then try joining #ubuntu-offtopic again [05:22] nickrud: err, nickrud is probably.... äh no, alraune is a nick [05:22] alraune: ##linux, probably [05:22] alraune you have fag as your real name [05:23] you know dpkg (nick) ? [05:24] nickrud: you know dpkg (nick) ? [05:24] alraune as a command, yes. This isn't a support channel though [05:25] nickrud: Äh, I know I don't know anything........ feels good ! [05:26] alraune I'm not sure why you can't get into #ubuntu-offtopic , try joining it again. If you still can't, someone who has ops there will deal with it [05:26] nickrud is no bot ! [05:26] k [05:29] nickrud: thx, n success, will joy communication channel now, thx [05:38] 60 minutes, eh nickrud? [05:39] :) the 60minutes is wrong, its +life ;) [05:40] hm, I wonder when someone on the council will actually add you to the list [05:40] the real question is when the webpage will be updated :) [05:41] what list? [05:41] yeah, I noticed that today. not having access to the bantracker really makes things difficult [05:41] launchpat irc team [05:42] nickrud, @login and @btlogin dont work for you? [05:42] bazhang ah, it does for me. It didn't, seveas mentioned he had to add me to the -irc team. I may have confused that with bt access [05:44] hmm, the browser just crashed ( wonder if it's a sign ) [05:46] of the apocalypse? No, probably a sign to give up ppc maybe [05:47] * nickrud has stimulated his bank account, now wonders which store to stimulate [05:47] nickrud: Dont! Save it. [05:47] good advice [05:47] no, nickrud. it's a sign that galeon cannot maintain uptime [05:48] every 3 weeks, it crashes [05:48] What?!!? We're supposed to shop!! Probably an iphone. maybe one of those openmoko phones, if I can just find out more about them [05:49] * nickrud wanted to mock someone treelike, but had to hold his tongue [05:50] No, you're not. Spending said stimulus check will only cause the economy to waver longer. Saving them will cause the economy to get worse short term, but it'll hit bottom, and then we'll recover. [05:51] woot! approved 3 minutes ago :) [05:51] * nickrud pokes nalioth with the 'good job' paddle [05:51] haha [05:53] Flannel can't fault your logic, but I deal with people daily that are being thrashed by the wavering economy; I'm hoping we go from the waver to a stagger to a walk, without the bust. [05:54] nickrud: Unfortunately, that won't happen without Uncle Sam bailing everyone out (and even then, still might). And that'll set dangerous precidents. [05:55] Yah. The concept of communal (note the root, not another derivation) aid. [05:56] Well, theres nothing wrong with community helping people. But the government shouldnt. [05:56] * Flannel might've gotten the intended meaning mixed up with the not. [05:57] Flannel no, you got the idea. The government, if properly used, is an extension of the community. [05:57] the organized manifestation of community [05:58] nickrud: There's a large difference between community and government though. [05:58] Community is neighbor helping neighbor (because they want to). Government is neighbor's money (through taxes) helping neighbor (because theyre forced to). [05:59] The former is A-OK by anyones definition. The latter deals with constitutionality/definition of government roles/etc. [06:00] And the latter, especially in this case, if implemented will lead down a slippery slope. "Waah, I bought too much and am now bankrupt. The government should pay off my debt" [06:00] Because the populace right now *is* largely a nation of consumer-whiners. [06:01] Flannel: only in the countries where they were conditioned to be like that [06:01] Nah, too many believed the promises of cheap, deregulated money and the prophets that said 'you can have it all, go shop!!' [06:02] no one wants to be called a whiner though. Not exactly a popular message these days. [06:02] TheSheep: our topic is what to do with stimulus checks. Location specifics are understood. [06:03] sorta ##politics-polite ;) [06:03] heh 'stimulus' [06:04] Flannel anyway, I have a good savings plan, this is money I think was given away foolishly ($150B?!!) so I'll simply use it for fun. [06:06] Flannel and on the subject of whiners, that is an excellent description of at least a quarter of the people I deal with [06:06] tis all in your head! things are great :) [06:18] nalioth or elkbuntu or pricechild, could someone add flannel to #ubuntu access list? I saw you all voted ;) [06:18] chanserv gives voice to Flannel [06:18] -offtopic too, I believe. [06:19] * Flannel doesn't know. [06:19] wish I had it in offtopic [06:22] Flannel: welcome to hell. [06:22] nalioth: Its where I vacation in summer. [06:22] too much of a risk I guess. [06:23] Flannel: if you have any questions whatsoever, please ask them of us [06:23] and remember we're a kinder gentler IRC community [06:24] * nickrud snorts [06:24] nalioth, lp page updated [06:24] nalioth: someone mentioned irssi alias thing and asking you about them. [06:25] although I imagine I can grep logs for them too, if they're not handy. [06:25] Flannel: "auto_bleh.pl" [06:26] Flannel: or join #autobleh for an updated version [06:28] next up, Jordan_U [06:33] @login [06:33] Flannel: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. [06:35] ♥ Flannel [06:35] * Myrtti hugs Flannel [06:35] hmm [06:36] hug me? [06:36] Flannel: irssi aliases: http://nullcortex.com/ [06:36] Myrtti: thanks [06:37] oh right. I knew I read this recently. [06:37] Flannel: I've got my own set too :-P [06:37] Flannel: welcome to the crowd, your joining has been loooooong overdue [06:37] * Myrtti hugs once more [06:37] Myrtti: You (collectively) finally asked. [06:38] Flannel: again one of those "I thought he was, someone must've asked already, right?" [06:38] "RIGHT?" [06:38] * Myrtti hugs Tm_T [06:38] madpilot swears he's asked flannel more than once. [06:39] see? ^ [06:39] :-D [06:39] nickrud: He's *talked* about it, and I've said the same thing each time. [06:39] * Myrtti larts Flannel [06:39] :-P [06:40] have a cookie? [06:40] probably the same thing you told me when I brought it up, 'hell no' :) [06:40] nickrud: Looking through the channel logs, I see he's asked about it here a number of times. Guess he finally asked when people were awake. [06:40] nickrud: I never said that? [06:41] teehee [06:41] you are a funny bunch [06:41] Myrtti: we exist solely to entertain you. [06:41] Well, plus all the other stuff. [06:41] ♥ and I only to cheer you up [06:42] Flannel may I post from a pm log? Just one line? [06:42] nickrud: Sure. When was it? I'll check mine. [06:42] Jun 22 21:10:10 Not me, no. [06:42] since, I'm sure you'll be quoting out of context ;) [06:44] mm. Darn. Notices aren't logged. [06:44] and I finally restarted, so its not even in my buffer. [06:44] nickrud: You happen to remember what that was in response to? Two things. [06:45] Flannel for your own side, one more line: Jun 22 21:18:25 I honestly don't see why anyone would decline when asked. I guess you never did get a definitive request ;) [06:45] Flannel I do remember it as my saying why don't you become an op? But I don't have the exact wordage either [06:46] nickrud: I think it was more along the lines of already an op. [06:46] could be. [06:47] which makes sense with the next line: 21:10 Although... it seems now I've got ops even thinking I'm an op. [06:47] silly Flannel! tricks are for kids! [06:48] in ANY case [06:48] here you are now [06:48] Flannel yeah, now you have the pain along with the pull :) [06:49] just watch out for the pointy things :) [06:50] nickrud: and grues [06:52] hey, I always hug and give cookies after poking with the Pink Fluffy Pen Of Poking™ :-) === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [06:59] * bazhang wonders what happened to Pelo [07:11] * Flannel is going to have to get used to not using o-p-s trigger. [07:14] Flannel: *patpat* it will be alright :-P [07:16] morning all [07:16] congrats Flannel :) [07:18] jussi01: Thankee [07:18] :) [07:23] jpds: you thunder stealer you :P [07:24] morning. [07:52] Ahadiel called the ops in #ubuntu (BRLB) [07:59] yay. I managed to do a bridge to my virtualbox. [08:00] too bad I managed to make it permanent so I couldn't access net with the host machine. [08:00] still, as I am excellent and cool, I also fixed it. With reading only man pages of brctl, since VirtualBox and evince wouldn't start. [08:01] yay! [10:25] he ... now ... has ... a public autoaway. [10:25] * Myrtti cries [10:26] different guy [10:26] dmesg? [10:26] dmesg and dmseg [10:26] dmesg vs dmseg [10:27] I believe that is the same guy folks.... [10:29] just asked him to remove it in a PM, asked me if I'd taken my medican and told me he would ignore me [10:29] !instantrimshot [10:29] Ba Dun Tshh! http://instantrimshot.com/ [10:30] I believe that fits the occasion [10:30] he's done the same in #fedora too, just seen them [10:30] I'll await the day someone tells me to bite them [10:30] "BITE MEH!" [10:37] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:37] dmesg: erm [10:37] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:03) [10:37] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:04) [10:38] dmesg: why all this public aways? [10:38] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:04) [10:38] dmesg: you where removed from the ubuntu channel for this very reason [10:38] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:05) [10:38] dmesg: you refused to discuss disabling this script. If you refuse to discuss this further you will also be removed from this channel [10:38] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:38] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:39] ikonia, he's only doing it for a reaction, kinda like how 10yrolds behave. [10:39] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:39] dont give him the reaction, he'll grow out of it [10:39] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:39] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:39] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:39] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:01) [10:40] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:02) [10:40] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:00) [10:40] * dmesg is back (gone 00:00:01) [10:40] * dmesg is away: I'll be back! [10:41] ikonia-> loser [10:41] oh, no, not the ubuntu-ops channel [10:41] whatever will i do without it [10:41] ikonia has a problem with his sexuality. [10:41] * Tm_T <3 dmesg [10:41] for some reason I can't op in here ? [10:41] insults are a different matter altogether [10:41] elkbuntu: true [10:42] ikonia: hmm, not many can [10:42] I'm in the access list [10:42] it's just not working [10:42] ikonia, only long-term ops tend to be able to [10:42] ikonia: only as via [10:42] you're in the access list for voice [10:42] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh [10:42] didn't look at the list [10:42] yeah, as what in old language was lvl 5 [10:42] Oh yeah.. Levels are gone now aren't they [10:43] that makes sense [10:43] Flannel, yes, but it allows for more owners, and different levels of ownership which is nice [10:43] I'm still trying to figure out what the number in ALIS means [10:44] ask #freenode, they'll give you a link that only explains half of what you want to know, then ask for what you dont see on the page [10:45] I've got the page bookmarked somewhere [10:45] I just love how the contextual help feature isn't really contextual [10:46] haha, dholbach has an admirer: * hornyforholbach (i=horny@gateway/tor/x-16762b566dfc9586) has left #ubuntu-proxy-users [10:48] I've got a feeling evil is dmesg in #ubuntu [10:49] he joined after dmesg was kicked, his channels lists are similar, and he's just refered to me as good like - which I did remove him from #ubuntu [10:49] his IP has changed though [10:49] could be wrong [10:52] he uses proxies [10:53] * elkbuntu waits [10:56] ikonia: i replied to your comment :D [10:57] ha ha, good man [10:57] I've not opened up firefox yet [10:57] good like ? [10:58] godlike [10:58] I could be way off on that, it just seemed ver co-incidental [10:58] meglomainia ;) [10:59] elkbuntu: I think your onto him [10:59] ikonia, eh? [10:59] asking how to change channels - when he's already in 3 channels [11:00] * Myrtti pokes jussi01 [11:00] dude, he's claiming n00bness, but he knows about /proc/ [11:00] * jussi01 pokes Myrtti back :D thanks [11:00] elkbuntu: No, he was told about /proc/ two seconds before pasting that [11:00] I've got adblock on so I can't see a thing [11:00] is it there :-D [11:00] * gnomefreak thinks this dmesg kid is gonna make people angry/annoyed/ect... [11:00] it shows up in html [11:00] Flannel, he quoted proc about 10 mins ago already [11:01] gnomefreak, ask ##linux about him [11:01] elkbuntu: You're referring to the uptime, right? [11:01] elkbuntu: i heard you talking about it yesterday [11:01] yes [11:02] elkbuntu: Look four lines before that, eboyjr [11:02] In ubottu, HomingHamster said: python is a popular, Object Oriented, easy to learn, scripting language included with Ubuntu. Currently at version 2.5.2 (16th july 08). [11:02] ah, misread. still, look a little down from that [11:04] !python [11:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about python [11:04] i dont think that is best way of describing it [11:04] version dropping in factoids is a pain too [11:05] elkbuntu: If I were to pick a reincarnation, I'd pick iampaul personally. [11:05] ikonia: agreed [11:05] heh [11:05] @whoami [11:05] gnomefreak: I don't recognize you. [11:05] @login [11:05] gnomefreak: The operation succeeded. [11:05] speaking of, who do I have to talk to for all that fancy mumbo jumbo? [11:06] dare someone to ask him if he has a website... [11:07] Flannel: whaddaya want to know? [11:07] @login [11:07] Flannel: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong. [11:07] Myrtti: Who do I bug re: updating that [11:07] poke jussi01 :-P [11:07] Flannel: /msg ubottu register [11:08] jpds: I am about to shoot you [11:09] jussi01: I thought you always wanted to do that. [11:09] !python is python is a popular Oject Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org [11:09] I'll remember that, gnomefreak [11:10] im having trouble with browser can someone confirmt hat is the link [11:10] gnomefreak: looks like you broke the python website [11:10] yup [11:11] i couldnt connect to it [11:11] Tis dead, Jim. [11:11] gnomefreak: yeah, it works. Also works sans www [11:11] so i took a stab [11:11] ah ok [11:20] In ubottu, HomingHamster said: perl is a popular scripting language, often used for CGI scripting. It is included in Ubuntu. See http://www.perl.org/. [11:21] oh fun [11:21] elkbuntu: I feel your pain [11:21] In ubottu, HomingHamster said: cgi is Common Gateway Interface. A specification for communication between an HTTP server and gateway programs on the server. Such as C or Perl for active content [11:21] ignoring him. join in the 'earliest ubuntu cd' discussion, i want to wean him out of 'never used linux before' [11:23] In ubottu, HomingHamster said: apache is a very popular webserver. See apache.org [11:24] yay, for spence|away ... [11:27] what is Hominghamster playing at [11:27] sigh... [11:27] he's lost his attention ;) [11:27] * elkbuntu wins [11:28] !scope > HomingHamster [11:28] HomingHamster, please see my private message [11:41] whos here that i can test an email on? [11:42] sure [11:42] :) [11:42] ikonia: can you pm me your email address [11:42] done [11:42] dmesg is dmseg? [11:43] no [11:43] I don't think so [11:43] okay [11:44] thats odd. ikonia i sent it let me know if it has key signature inline [11:45] ok [11:45] nope [11:45] no key line [11:46] hmmmm [11:46] thanks [11:46] sorry [11:47] gpg sig? [11:47] ikonia: can i send one more i just tweaked something [11:48] sure [11:48] keep 'em coming [11:48] thanks [11:48] that time i see it on the messages when sent [11:48] let me know if it changes when you get it [11:49] got you [11:50] key included this time [11:52] dmesg = evil (nickname) ? [11:52] ikonia: thanks [11:52] no problem [11:52] bazhang: ... suspected, yes. [11:52] bazhang: possibly [11:53] bazhang: possibly, I mentioned that earlier [11:53] thought so [12:38] Myrtti: any response on that email?? [12:38] nope [12:52] I just witnessed a prompt usage of my /hellokitty in #ubuntu-women :-D [13:18] i bought my sister those hellokity thinks years ago >10 years ago [13:19] things [13:20] which hellokitty things? [13:22] Pici: lunchbox stuffed one crap like that. its been well ove 10 years ago [13:22] i cant remember if i ate breakfast this morning and its 8:22am now [13:22] I've got my velcro curlers in a blue HelloKitty metal lunchbox [13:23] * gnomefreak personally liked those rainbow bears(name escape me atm) and my little pony and i dont mean for myself [13:23] not my little pony that would be rainbow bright i think [13:25] carebears [13:26] * Hobbsee wonders if anyone's good with phones here [13:29] ah yes them [13:29] Hobbsee: i can make and recieve calls :) [13:29] there's no way back from a bricked phone, is there? [13:29] Hobbsee: anything in particular? [13:30] yeah. ^ [13:30] bricked? [13:30] yes. [13:30] as in, attempted to flash it, which failed. [13:30] ah [13:30] i seriously doubt there is, but it's worth asking :) [13:30] if a cell phoone your carrier should beable to help but you fixing it i highly doubt it [13:31] * gnomefreak wonders if they are going to fix Lp for me [13:31] nto if i've just flashed it, they won't. [13:32] Hobbsee: oh [13:32] that's fairly high on the "we will not support you if you do this" [13:33] good point [13:33] which phone, btw? [13:33] samsung z230 [13:33] nice flip phone, on a samsung scale. [13:35] funny thing was, dad managed to flash his SE fine. [13:38] Hobbsee: if you take it back, they can flash it for you using some special interface IIRC [13:38] JTAG? [13:39] jussi01: oh, will they do that? [13:39] Hobbsee: I had it done to my n800 - dunno if they will do it for your phone [13:39] Hobbsee: you can ask though [13:42] jussi01: mmm. i'll have to do that. [13:43] * Hobbsee is unsure how long it has until it breaks - it's having trouble charging too [13:52] if someone could update topic in #kubuntu-kde4 so it mentions the just built RC1 of kde4 instead of the beta 2, that would great [13:56] flaccid: we will look at it [13:56] look? [13:57] flaccid: yes, look - if we think it needs changing, then we will fix it [13:57] why wouldn't it need changing? [13:57] meh i'll stop being a pain... [13:58] thanks mate [13:58] sigh... [14:18] meh [14:19] today seems to be one of those days when I'm totally amazed by the ingeniousity of mankind. In contrast to two past days when the world was taken over by idiots. [14:28] *ingenuity [14:29] ubuntu on my eee, wheeeeee! [14:29] \o/ [14:29] how well does it work? [14:30] since the wifi patch didnt make it into hardy, awkwardly. driver is recompiled now, just waiting for the tweak script to finish. seems stalled on the eeexubuntu osd stuff [14:34] whee, wasnt stalled, just taking it's time [14:34] elkbuntu: thanks [14:45] * gnomefreak scared of Myrtti, she uses very big words [14:56] Pici: poit [14:56] * Hobbsee uses very small words on gnomefreak [14:57] ;) thankful forr that, less i have to think [14:57] you don't know what they do, though [14:58] Pici: unpoit [14:59] !ping [14:59] bot lag? [14:59] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [14:59] hm.. seems like I lagged :) [15:00] Myrtti: unpoited [15:39] please test me for the dcc-exploit; i wasn't sent to #ubuntu-read-topic but found the wiki page and wanted to be tested. here's what i get: [15:39] 10:37 <@FloodBot1> BugeyeD: Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type << /topic >> to find out how). [15:41] BugeyeD: try now [15:42] Myrtti: working now, thanks. [15:42] np [15:42] Morning Myrti [15:42] moin Jack_Sparrow [16:19] here we go [16:19] 18:18 <+FloodBot1> WARNING: akaluzhny, kyleN, bfiller, tonyespy are all connected from bismuth.canonical.com [16:19] LOLWHUT?! [16:19] :-P [16:19] hehe [16:19] WARNINK WARNINK! [16:19] the long awaited audit has arrived [16:22] kline 'em! [16:22] bazhang: where ? [16:22] they're clearly up to no good! [16:22] ikonia, the floodbots have alerted us [16:22] ah [16:23] audit attracted my attention [16:26] whoaaaa [16:26] unop has just changed his name to dmesg in ##linux [16:26]