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Kludge^WalesUKScottK: nope sadly not =/00:19
ScottKUrgh.00:19
ScottKWere the packages ok or ???00:19
Kludge^WalesUKwas up until 7:30am trying to get it sorted... can't remember, just so disheartened LOL00:20
ScottKOK.00:21
ScottKMaybe we try again later.00:22
ScottKAll the .debs are published on my PPA still when you want to have another go at it.00:22
Kludge^WalesUKaye. been playing about with a few things today, and just want to perfect a working installation of something :) Just playing with different window managers, as WINE just under X looks a bit weird00:23
Kludge^WalesUKdeluge seemed quite nice, but out of all the clients rTorrent and trasmission are the most stubborn bastards00:23
ScottKKludge^WalesUK: If you can get to the point where you can tell that the transmission backport I did for you at least basically works, I can get it published as an official backport.00:26
Kludge^WalesUKhmm. no idea quite what that means, but i assume its a good thing =)00:27
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piv_hello all,03:00
piv_i have a dell poweredge that will not seem to rebuild a drive. I hot swapped one, but it will not build it03:01
piv_is there something i can do without rebooting ?03:01
cmdlnwhat kind of raid is it?03:02
cmdlnperc?03:03
cmdlnlsi something or other03:03
cmdlnId try using the megaraid tools03:03
piv_I think raid 503:07
piv_Has 5 drives anyway ( i know that isn't what it means)03:08
piv_:)03:08
piv_i don't know what perc or lsi are, are they RAID controllers? how would i find out?03:08
cmdlnlspci03:09
cmdlnfigure out what raid card you have03:09
cmdlni havent worked with those cards much .... but you might need to load mptsas, and mptctl03:09
cmdlnthen install mpt-status and lsiutil03:09
piv_RAID bus controller: American Megatrends Inc. MegaRAID (rev 20)03:22
piv_that was from lspci03:22
cmdlnyeh try installing mpt-status03:22
piv_ok03:22
cmdlni think it will tell you how many controllers are there03:22
cmdlnthat it can work with at least03:22
cmdlnthen find lsiutils, you can prolly use that to get the raid rebuilding03:23
piv_ok, setting up mpt-status gave me an error that mptctl module is missing, is that a kernel mod?03:24
cmdlnyeh03:26
cmdlnyou can just try to modprobe it03:26
cmdlnany pam gurus around?03:27
piv_modprobe worked03:29
cmdlnnow try mpt-status03:30
piv_ioctl: no such device03:33
piv_hmm03:33
cmdlnmaybe that card needs a different tool03:37
cmdlnnot sure03:37
piv_does not seem to be a lsiutil package03:38
piv_cmdln: where is a good place to look for info on this?03:40
piv_google just points me to threads about how others have the same problem03:40
cmdlnlsiutil isnt in the repositories to my knowledge03:40
cmdlnive used it on a dell server once before03:40
cmdlnif you find out the model of the raid card you will be closer03:41
cmdlnpoke around lsi.com03:41
piv_thanks03:41
cmdlnmight be able to find something there03:41
piv_ok03:41
cmdlnjust depends on what card you have03:41
piv_what am i looking for, how to find out what card i have?03:42
cmdlni suppose03:42
cmdlnperhaps you can get the specifics from dell03:42
piv_cmdln: thanks, am going to drive home and continue this from there, as either nephish or bitsbam03:43
piv_see you in a bit03:43
ScottKnxvl: You mentioned last night that you use transmission?03:59
nxvlyep04:00
nxvl:D04:00
nxvlit comes by default on ubuntu04:01
nxvlit's cool04:01
ScottKnxvl: Would you mind checking that the 1.22 backport I build last night works.04:02
ScottKnxvl: If it does, I figure I'll go ahead and make an official backport of it since I've done all the hard part already.04:02
nxvlyep04:02
nxvli think i have some torrents on queue04:02
nxvlinstalling04:04
nxvlheh this will take some time04:12
nxvlit's installing security updates04:12
nxvl:P04:12
nxvlkees: thank you!04:12
nxvlit seems to work04:14
* nxvl downloads one more torrent04:14
ScottKnxvl: Wouldl you please comment that it works in Bug #20883604:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 208836 in transmission "Backport bugfixes from Transmission 1.1x for Hardy" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20883604:19
nxvlScottK: yep, i'm testing one more (and faster) torrent and i will comment04:20
nxvlyep it work04:20
ScottKGreat.04:20
nxvlworks04:20
ScottKThanks.04:20
* ScottK goes to upload.04:20
nxvlwhenever you want04:21
nxvl:D04:21
nxvlbtw04:22
nxvlScottK: have you seen an error like this one before: http://rafb.net/p/WdWcWi21.html04:22
ScottKYou didn't happen to have a non-packaged version of it installed before did you?04:23
nxvlwell04:24
nxvlreally don't know04:24
nxvli don't get the error it's a report i have just get04:24
nxvli'm figting with my debian vm to test the upgrade04:25
ScottKNot sure.  There's a pycentral option for no-prepare that for some reason I think might help.  I don't recall specifics.  IIRC it's in the man page.04:29
nxvlugh i'm having problems with ftp.debian.org04:29
nxvlit must be the massive dns upgrade04:29
ScottKTransmission backport is uploaded.  Now we just wait for an archive admin.  Thanks for testing.04:29
nxvlNo, thank you for packaeging it04:30
nxvl:D04:30
ScottKThat was 2 hours I could've been sleeping, but I have a hard time keeping my fingers off the keyboard when people are installing from source and not using the packaging system.04:31
nxvlheh04:31
nxvlyes04:32
nxvli experience the same04:32
nxvlmy daily schedule goes like this:04:32
nxvl9-5:30 -> work04:32
nxvl6:00 - 10:00 -> university04:32
nxvl10:00 - 12:00 -> girlfriend04:32
nxvl12:00 - 1:30/2:00 -> packaging04:33
nxvlit's hard to say "i need to go sleep now" your eyes need to just close04:33
nxvlneed to reboot, kernel upgrade brb04:34
bitsbamlo there all, told you i would be back. I am the one that was piv at work, trying to get a dell poweredge to rebuild a drive i just installed, and how are all you?04:37
nxvlback04:38
bawlsacHY04:40
bawlsacI HAVE UBUNTU SERVER04:40
bawlsacBUT IT DOSENT WORK04:40
bawlsacWYHY UBUNTU DOSENT WORK? !!1104:40
ScottKbawlsac: Yelling will get you less help not more.04:41
cmdlnits just a troll read the handle04:41
ScottKGood point.04:42
ScottKThanks.04:42
cmdln:)04:42
cmdln/ignore bawlsac04:42
bitsbamhey again cmdlin04:43
cmdlnhowdy04:43
emgenthhahaha04:43
bitsbami had installed a piece of software that could not find a utility.04:45
bitsbamor a driver, and i couldn't find it04:45
bitsbami did find that i have an AMI raid controller04:45
bitsbami could not find anything in the ubuntu community documentation, is there an ubuntu-specific tutorial or doc that you know of that might help me get my head around how to talk to my RAID system?04:47
cmdlnami is lsi04:47
cmdlnto my knowledge04:47
bitsbamok, lsi is the company, the driver, ?04:48
cmdlnthe company04:49
bitsbamah, the lsi.com one. ok04:49
cmdlnif you find out the model of the card04:49
cmdlnthen you can see if there is a utility04:49
bitsbamok04:50
bitsbamwill see what i can find04:50
krautmoin07:41
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hornyforholbachhello10:11
hornyforholbachi'm horny for holbach10:11
hornyforholbachnice to meet you10:11
^Diablo^question: is there a guide for getting my ubuntu server too work smooth, as when i add a user they get email, vhost ftp, and /home/user/www, this is my 3th installation this week, and i really have trouble finding the answers im looking for @ forums10:41
jords_^Diablo^: I don't know of such a guide, but for ftp I find vsftpd with the local_enable option works well. If you add files to /etc/skel, they will be copied into any new user's directory10:57
uvirtbotjords_: Error: "Diablo^:" is not a valid command.10:57
jords_What do you want to use /home/user/www for? If you want public html, (ie people can access files in /home/user/public_html with www.yourdomain.com/~user , then theres a apache module to do it10:58
jords_Not sure about email, I use google apps for all mine10:59
^Diablo^okey ty ill try that11:04
^Diablo^i made /home/user/public_html, but no adress there, do i need too setup apache/module or sometihng?11:14
^Diablo^apache module how where what? =), im sorry im completly new on this, i just followed howto, and didnt get what i wanted11:17
Deepsif you look in /etc/apache2/mods-available11:18
Deepsyou should see userdir.conf and userdir.load11:18
Deepscreate links to those in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and reload apache11:18
Deepsyou can modify them, but the default is to look in /home/*/public_html11:19
Deepsand that space can be accessed through a broswer by accessing http://yourserver/~username11:19
^Diablo^ah okey, how do i create a link?, or is it the a2emodenable thing?11:19
Deepsoh, nice, yes, you can use a2enmod11:20
Deepsnice, didnt know those existed, hehe11:20
Deepsi always did it the manual way11:20
sergevnuname -a11:21
^Diablo^ty i now got You don't have permission to access /~user on this server...11:22
^Diablo^what chomod do public_html dir need to have?11:23
Deepsso alter the permissions on the directory, and/or put in an index file if you dont have the autoindex module enabled to create automatic directory listings in the place of an index file11:23
Deeps755 is usually a safe bet11:23
Deepsuser read/write/executable, group+world read+executable only (dirs need to be executable or you get permission denied simply trying to get into them)11:24
^Diablo^i made index file set public_html too 755 still same error11:25
Deepsrestarted apache?11:26
^Diablo^ye i did11:27
Deepstry to access the file you created directly, rather than simply going to /~user11:28
Deepsand ensure the permissions on that are correct (must be world readable)11:28
^Diablo^index.html got -rwxr-xr-x11:31
exalt_hello, I have constructed my vpn server ( pptpd) and clients are successfully connected to that server, but they can't access any other server in the domain , any help ?11:33
Deepsexalt_: ip forwarding enabled?11:34
Deepsexalt_: (cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward)11:34
exalt_Deeps, hmm11:35
exalt_I think I got but I'm still not sure11:36
exalt_I get 011:37
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Deepsyeah, that means it's not enabled11:39
Deepsecho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward11:39
exalt_yes I did that11:39
Deepsassuming you dont have any obtrusive firewall rules, that'll resolve it11:40
exalt_where I configure11:40
^Diablo^Deeps: i have tryed added new users, restarting apache but still get permission denied...11:40
Deeps^Diablo^: did you try accessing the file directly, rather than simply trying to view their root directory listing?11:41
uvirtbotDeeps: Error: "Diablo^:" is not a valid command.11:41
Deepsuvirtbot: ssh11:41
uvirtbotDeeps: Error: "ssh" is not a valid command.11:41
^Diablo^ye i did, also copyed it as index.htm and index.html11:41
Deepsthen look in /var/log/apache2/error.log11:42
Deepsand see what pops up11:42
^Diablo^there are  [error] [client 192.168.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /~user denied11:44
^Diablo^there are  [error] [client 192.168.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to /~user/index.htm denied11:44
^Diablo^also, [notice] caught SIGWINCH, shutting down gracefully11:45
Deepsdo you have a user called 'user'?11:45
^Diablo^yes i made for test11:46
exalt_Deeps, I enabled it, but the vpn client still can't ping another machine11:47
Deepsoh, hehe, does the other machine know where to route the packets back to?11:47
Deepsi'm guessing your vpn server isn't the default router for the other clients on the network11:49
Deepsyou probably want to either update all the other clients to know that the vpn subnet goes to it11:49
Deepsor update the router to know that the subnet goes to the vpn server11:49
exalt_deeps, thank you , I understand  :)11:49
Deepsdiablo: dunno, ensure that the userdir module is actually enabled? ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?11:53
^Diablo^yes there is /etc/apache2/mods-enable/userdir.load and userdir.conf11:53
^Diablo^can i have done something wrong(again) during some installation?11:55
^Diablo^should there be anything under /etc/apache2/sites-available?11:57
ghatakHi, i used binary-sparc in my source list for Gutsy, however the same is not valid for Hardy, what happened to a bunch of sources fetch http://security.ubuntu.com:5001/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/main/binary-sparc/Packages.gz  404 Not Found11:58
Deepsghatak: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/80412:12
gphi12:13
gpi am installing ubuntu server on HP proliant server with xeon12:14
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gpwhuch ubuntu server i should choose 64 bit amd and intel ?12:14
Nafalloyes12:14
gpdoes ubuntu server runs fine on xeon ?12:15
gp64 bit ?12:15
Nafalloyes12:17
gpi heard there issues of unbuntu server 64 bit on xeon , I hope 8.04 is well tested on xeon 64 bit12:17
ghatakDeeps: thanks12:20
gphow can i find out on ubuntu server which release it is12:21
gpUname -a gives kernel info etc12:22
hadscat /etc/lsb-release12:22
Deepslsb_release -a12:22
gpthanks12:23
gpalso how to find its ubuntu installed is 64 bit or 32 bit edition ?12:24
Deepsuname -r12:24
Deepsif you're using a 64bit kernel, you're on 64bit12:24
Deepsif you're on a 32bit kernel, you're on 32bit12:24
Deeps(i think)12:24
gp2.6.20-15-server 32 or 64 bit ?12:25
Deepsi'd put my money on it's being 32bit12:25
Deepshmm, i might be wrong about my assumptions regarding 32bit vs 64bit12:28
Deepsprobably am, infact12:28
ghatakDeeps: I am running ubuntu 7.10, I want to upgrade to hardy, however my source list is not playing nice, lot of stuff is missing from standard repositories. by the way the this server is running on sparc hardware. Any recommendations ?12:36
ghataktail /var/log/syslog12:37
ghatakooopps wrong window12:37
Deepsghatak: mailing lists / forums / newsgroups12:40
gpfor 4 gb 64 bit Xeon server what should be the swap size ?13:31
gpnormally i take swap double of physical ram13:32
gpso it should 8 gb ?13:32
nealmcbgp: well, depends on the type of server - normally you don't want a server to swap13:48
nealmcbbut double the memory is a common choice at least for desktops13:49
jdstrandhi nealmcb!14:03
nealmcbjdstrand: howdy :)14:03
jdstrandnealmcb: I saw your factoid comment14:04
nealmcbjdstrand: do you want to cook up some text for ufw, or want me to take a stab at it?14:06
kirklandjdstrand: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/search.html14:07
sergevnis it possible to keep filedates when using scp?14:09
sergevnnevermind, got it. -p14:10
mathiazkirkland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10545714:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 105457 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysqd_safe high cpu usage" [Low,Triaged]14:10
emgentheya14:14
jdstrandnealmcb: how about: 'The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' or 'iptables' commands (see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html), or ...'14:24
nealmcb!firewall14:33
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).14:33
nealmcb!iptables14:33
nealmcbhmm - interesting that ufw is in the server guide, but many folks who ask for the firewall factoid will be desktop users14:38
jdstrandnealmcb: that is a good point14:38
nealmcblet me take a shot at it, after a bit14:39
jdstrandnealmcb: thanks!14:39
mathiazkirkland: do you have a user account on wordpress.com ?14:41
kirklandmathiaz: dustinkirkland14:47
nealmcbjdstrand: how about these...15:12
nealmcbfirewall: Ubuntu's default firewall manager is !ufw.  As with any other Linux distribution you can also use the 'iptables' command directly (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).15:12
nealmcbufw: ufw is the Uncomplicated FireWall.  It is installed by default but is initially disabled.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html15:12
nealmcbhmm - don't really want to have a release-specific page reference in a factoid, I'd think15:15
nealmcband https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo should also have a stable link to ufw info15:16
nealmcbI think ufw deserves its own web page....15:17
nealmcbsommer: is there a way to get the "latest" page for a topic in e.g. the serverguide?  or some sort of permanent link for common terms?15:19
nealmcbA https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW page might be best15:20
nealmcbor https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ufw15:21
sommernealmcb: not that I know of15:21
kirklandlamont: ping15:30
kirklandlamont: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/24708415:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 247084 in bind9 "bind9 init script status_of_proc() call should use pid" [Low,In progress]15:30
kirklandlamont: fyi, debian has accepted the status_of_proc() function with pidfile support15:31
kirklandlamont: i dropped an updated patch for you in that bug.15:31
kirklandlamont: what you have technically works, so no rush15:31
mathiazzul: nijaba https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/10545715:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 105457 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysqd_safe high cpu usage" [Low,Triaged]15:33
jdstrandnealmcb: I like the text15:35
ahasenackguys, hardy's kvm + libvirt is really slow for me in installing a new distro (dapper, in this case), is there something obvious I'm missing? The machine should be powerful enough15:36
ahasenack2.2GHz c2d, 2Gb ram15:36
ahasenackI don't mean to imply it's "faster" elsewhere, it's just what I'm running here15:37
nealmcbjdstrand, sommer - is one of you willing to put up a generic page somewhere for ufw?15:38
ahasenackcpu usage in virt-manager is very low, as is the host cpu (clocked down to 800MHz, so the virtual machine is not even calling for more cpu)15:38
ahasenackinteresting, in the command line I cannot boot the dapper iso, but from the machine created with virt-manager I can15:40
ahasenackops, my mistake on that one15:40
* ahasenack forgot -boot d15:40
jdstrandnealmcb, sommer: I certainly like the idea of a generic page, but not sure how different it would be from the one in the server guide15:42
ahasenackfwiw, running it manually in the command line (kvm -hda ...) is *much* faster15:47
nealmcbjdstrand: yeah - it wouldn't be much different now, but over time it would be the generic place for people to go and see differences over time, could be referred to from the README, etc.15:49
* nealmcb just divided by time twice - that would be an acceleration...15:49
PMantisI installed JeOS 8.04 on ESX 3.5. Working well, except we need more CPUs. When I added a CPU to the VM, it broke networking. Should I use a kernel other than *-virtual ?16:40
* delcoyote hi16:52
gphello16:53
mfonz85hi!16:53
mfonz85i need a little help16:53
mfonz851 minute only16:53
gpi am getting strage ports opened at ubuntu server fresh install16:54
gpNot shown: 1695 closed ports16:54
gpPORT     STATE    SERVICE16:54
gp22/tcp   open     ssh16:54
gp25/tcp   filtered smtp16:54
gp80/tcp   open     http16:54
gp134/tcp  filtered ingres-net16:54
gp135/tcp  filtered msrpc16:54
gp136/tcp  filtered profile16:54
gp137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns16:54
gp138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm16:54
gp139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn16:54
gp445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds16:54
gp771/tcp  filtered rtip16:54
gp1022/tcp filtered unknown16:54
gp1023/tcp filtered netvenuechat16:54
gp1434/tcp filtered ms-sql-m16:54
gp1485/tcp filtered lansource16:55
gp1720/tcp filtered H.323/Q.93116:55
gp3128/tcp filtered squid-http16:55
gp3141/tcp filtered vmodem16:55
gp3456/tcp filtered vat16:55
gpis this normal ?16:55
jussi01!paste16:55
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)16:55
gpoops16:56
gpare these ports supposed to be open ?16:57
mfonz85open -> ssh + http16:57
gp filtered vmodem16:58
gp?16:58
mfonz85it's normal i suppose16:58
pteague_laptopdoes anybody know if the default rsync is built with --fileflags, --acls, or iconv support ?17:37
jdstrandzul, mathiaz: as it seems that bug #244411 was not caused by the security update, I am handing off to you17:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 244411 in samba "Samba shares never work with winbind installed (8.04)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24441117:39
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nealmcbgp: Filtered     means that a firewall, filter, or other network     obstacle is blocking the port so that Nmap cannot tell whether it is     open or closed.17:46
keeskirkland: here's what I use for my ~/.devscripts file: http://pastebin.osuosl.org/956418:15
kirklandkees: thx18:16
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spphreakhello all19:18
spphreakanyone setup kerrighed with ubuntu server?  I found the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering link and followed the directions.  Pretty good stuff, seemed to run okay, but I don't see any nodes.19:19
spphreakI'm just looking to do some SSI clustering with ubuntu.  Looked like kerrighed was my best option.19:21
Tophatdoes anyone know how to mirror a raid server?  ive got Server1 and  I want to copy all the data over to Server2 to preform upgrades to it. so that way i have one working box at all times.19:32
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kirklandmathiaz: bug #24905920:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 249059 in lsb "please merge lsb_3.2-14" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24905920:58
Kludge^WalesUKanyone lurkings21:35
W8TAHhi folks -- how do i enable my hardy servers to use frambuffer for the console display and how do i get the pretty colors ?21:36
W8TAHalso - -one further question -- what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade on hardy?21:39
bitsbamhello all22:07
Smaughey all22:18
Smaugso in apache, i can't seem to disable sites with a2dissite anymore22:18
Smaugdunno way22:18
Smaugalso when i try to reload apache22:18
Smaugit says "* Reloading webserver config apache2" but then does not say "[OK]" like it normally does22:19
Smaugany ideas on why this might be?22:19
Smauganybody?  :(22:39
Smaugalso, i restarted apache2, so it now says [ok] when i reload22:39
Kludge^WalesUKif i was able to help out i would :(22:39
Smaugbut it still refuses to disable sites22:39
SmaugKludge^WalesUK: ty for the sentiment22:39
Smaugif there is some alternate involved way to disable a site22:39
Smaugi'll try that22:39
Kludge^WalesUKi'm here to learn as much i can ;) maybe linux will learn not to hate me so much <322:40
Smaugheh22:40
failurei hope this is "server specific" if i have fedora and ubuntu, and want to setup pxe with automatic handsfree installer, can  do both through the preseed method or do i have to have two servers, one running kickstart and the other using the preseed method?22:43
failurebeing that i have both fedora and ubuntu to be installed via pxe.22:43
mathiazfailure: fedora doesn't support preseed - however, ubuntu supports kickstart22:55
* Kludge^WalesUK cries and proceeds to stabbeth ubuntu server with a PP3 battery23:23

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