[00:53] <hubuntu> no sleep pep?
[00:54] <pep> hubuntu: nah... too warm :) I decided to do something useful instead, I'll just get up later tomorrow ;)
[00:54] <pep> I created a branch in lp, I'm generating my ssh key now...
[00:56] <pep> hubuntu: which time zone are you in?
[00:56] <hubuntu> same as you
[00:56] <pep> ok, so it's late too :)
[00:57] <hubuntu> yeah
[00:57] <hubuntu> it's all good tough...
[01:01] <hubuntu> gotta leave you now
[01:01] <hubuntu> peace out
[01:01] <greg-g> FYI: my feed has not updated on planet.ubuntu.com  I updated the config.ini and commited my changes last night.  The planet still references my old location.
[01:01] <pep> hubuntu: see you
[01:02] <greg-g> (actually, I'm not even sure if this is the correct team to report my issue to, so let me know if you have a better idea)
[04:33] <newz2000> greg-g: you'll be best off sending an email to rt@ubuntu.com I think
[06:39] <greg-g> newz2000: thanks, will do
[14:46] <newz2000> good morning
[14:48] <Volans> Hi newz2000 :)
[14:48] <newz2000> Volans: I talked to mdke, he said to schedule the meeting and if he can make it he will
[14:49] <newz2000> so I think we should get it going... do you want to help plan it?
[14:49] <Volans> ok, then who are the other guys that MUST Be there?
[14:49] <Volans> you, obviously
[14:49] <newz2000> that was it
[14:49] <Volans> only you?
[14:49] <newz2000> I'd like to establish the "drivers" for each project, and ensure they get the info they need
[14:50] <newz2000> and I think the meeting will help that
[14:50] <Volans> sure, hoping for a large participation
[14:50] <newz2000> so far there have been drivers for start page and feature tour project
[14:51] <newz2000> vbabiy is the one for the feature tour at the moment... I'll have to look up who's working on the start page.
[14:52] <Volans> newz2000: for the start page I think there are many ideas but for me what is not so clear is what are the boudary for the changes we can do in that page
[14:52] <vbabiy> Yeah I would really like to be there
[14:54] <newz2000> Lizzeh is the one taking initiative on the start page
[14:59] <newz2000> Volans: do you want to act as the first secretary for the web presence team and coordinate the meeting or would you rather have me do it?
[14:59] <newz2000> don't feel pressured if you don't want it, I'm happy to do it.
[15:00] <Volans> newz2000: I think the most appropriate people for that will be you, but I'm happy to help you or do it if you have problems or other thing to do
[15:00] <Volans> (and thanks for the proposal ;) )
[15:00] <newz2000> no, I'm fine. My goal in asking you was to get more people involved in the team. Make it more "community"
[15:01] <newz2000> less like a dictatorship
[15:02] <newz2000> I've invited BinaryDigit since that's Lizzeh, the person who expressed interest in the start page
[15:03] <Volans> this is not a dictatorship... and can't do a complete democracy, we can't decide every thing in 100 people...
[15:04] <newz2000> I agree
[15:05] <newz2000> let's see if Lizzeh joins here soon and we'll see if we can coordinate some tentative times before tossing it onto the list
[15:06] <boredandblogging> we just like "benevolent" dictators :-P
[15:06] <Volans> ok, I have seen now the fridge calendar and there are many empty days, so I think no problem for that
[15:07] <Volans> newz2000: in general you prefer a working day or saturday/sunday for the meeting?
[15:07] <newz2000> I'm flexible but I think I'd prefer a weekday
[15:07] <newz2000> and regarding schedule, I think we should do it right here to get people familiar with the channel and ensure they feel welcome to join any time
[15:08] <newz2000> is there a benefit to doing it in #ubuntu-meeting?
[15:08] <boredandblogging> as long ubuntulog does its job, not really
[15:08] <newz2000> I checked the logs the other day and they were moving along nicely
[15:09] <newz2000> is there a way to create a flag in the log for when an event occurrs?
[15:09] <boredandblogging> i believe thats what mootbot is for
[15:10] <boredandblogging> newz2000: maybe I misunderstood
[15:10] <boredandblogging> thought you were talking about highlighting action and topics
[15:11] <newz2000> no, I just mean create an anchor in the html log so that we can link to it
[15:11] <boredandblogging> not that I know of
[15:11] <Volans> newz2000: I can see an example log of this bot?
[15:11] <newz2000> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/16/%23ubuntu-website.html
[15:12] <newz2000> I'll ask the irc team real quick, but even if this isn't supported I still think there's compelling benefits to having a meeting here
[15:13] <Volans> we can put in the log a text like "MEETING START NOW"
[15:13] <Volans> and tell people to read after that
[15:13] <Volans> in the log of the day
[15:13] <Volans> of the meeting
[15:13] <newz2000> Excellent suggestion
[15:14] <Volans> and same at the end... ;)
[15:15] <boredandblogging> or put a long "-----------------------------"
[15:15] <Volans> only possible problem doing the meeting here... there ins't the bot that tell you that the time is finished... and there aren't other meetings after... so we can continue for many hours...
[15:16] <newz2000> Or maybe, <a id="meeting"></a>
[15:16] <Volans> if we don't manage the time
[15:16] <newz2000> I'm good at not letting meetings go long
[15:17] <newz2000> if we do have a problem though we can do the next one in #ubuntu-meeting
[15:24] <newz2000> someone recently commented on my blog about a js library called sproutcore that they think will be an up and commer in the future
[15:25] <newz2000> presumably http://www.sproutcore.com
[15:25] <newz2000> looks like a ui library
[15:25] <boredandblogging> is that the apple thing?
[15:25] <newz2000> yes
[15:25] <newz2000> looks handsome, feels a little rough
[15:26] <newz2000> but they say the same thing about me...
[15:26] <newz2000> ;-)
[15:26] <boredandblogging> lol
[15:26] <Volans> the photo demo have occupied all my RAM :)
[15:27] <newz2000> yeah, that's a heavy page
[15:28] <Volans> newz2000: seems more appropiate for real JS application instead of graphical effects that we need
[15:28] <newz2000> I agree.
[15:28] <newz2000> I'm not sure I'm on board with the idea that a web app should look like a desktop app
[15:29] <newz2000> though it would be nice to have a few richer controls once in a while (like the slider control or a calendar picker)
[15:30] <newz2000> I'll be back in 15m, if we haven't heard from Lizzeh then I'll go ahead and send an email to the list
[15:31] <Volans> for a single control we can have a smaller JS with only that control
[15:31] <Volans> ok+
[15:47] <newz2000> ok, I'll send the email and we'll get discussion started
[15:48] <newz2000> anyone have any suggestions for how we should best choose a time for the meeting?
[15:48] <newz2000> should I just toss out three options and let people vote?
[15:48] <Volans> I think the better is 2-3 date with 2 different time for each date
[15:48] <Volans> and vote
[15:48] <Volans> to maximize the time zones coverage
[15:48] <newz2000> ok, good point
[15:49] <Volans> the better options probably will be
[15:49] <Volans> very early in the morning in alaska
[15:49] <Volans> (like 6-7 o'click)
[15:49] <Volans> *clock
[15:50] <newz2000> ok, so it's 6:49am in Alaska now
[15:50] <Volans> but 00:49 at brisbane
[15:51] <Volans> a part australia, now we cover all the other timezones of the team people that have declared it
[15:51] <Volans> so is a possibility
[15:53] <Volans> the other possibility is the opposite... 6 o'clock in the morning in australia est, 21 at london 02:30 in India
[23:27] <Volans> newz2000: Hi, have you spoken with Lizzeh for the meeting?