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piecei am about to do a bare-bones install, if i use my hardy mini.iso image can i just replace "hardy" with "intrepid" in /etc/apt/sources.list, aptitude update && aptitude upgrade and i'm good to go?00:06
pheeroryes00:16
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_emet_is Ubuntu 8.10 using upstart events00:46
histols02:06
DaemonikHow are the contents of /dev/ created?02:10
tnnchas anyone had the vnc server stop working after the last update02:10
Daemoniktnnc, Define "stop working", crash?, hang?02:11
tnncdaemonik ok it just stopped as you said thanks02:11
RAOFDaemonik: Most of them are created by the kernel; some are created by udev, I believe.02:13
DaemonikRAOF, If I were booting Ubuntu from an NFS server hosted by OpenBSD, with many different kinds of hardware, I probably want /dev/ to be recreated at each boot yes?02:14
RAOFIt's going to be anyway.02:14
RAOFIt's a filesystem not backed by any block device, anyway.02:15
DaemonikRAOF, So this won't stop me from booting? What I'd like to do, is use something like UnionFS so the NFS share mounted on / is read-only.02:15
DaemonikRAOF, Yeah I know that much.02:15
RAOFSo it doesn't matter where or how you get /, /dev is going to be created on boot.02:15
DaemonikRAOF, Even if / is read-only?02:16
RAOFYes.02:16
DaemonikCool02:16
RAOFAlthough you'll need at least /tmp and /var to be not read-only, I believe.02:17
DaemonikYeah mounted on tmpfs which is in ram yeah?02:17
DaemonikAs far as I know, one of the things UnionFS can do is combine a ram disk and read only device like a cdrom or an NFS share that is read-only02:18
Daemonikand the LiveCDs do this yes?02:18
RAOFYeah, I believe so.02:19
DaemonikWould this be as easy as an entry in fstab?02:19
RAOFNo idea.02:20
RAOFBut quite possibly.02:20
RAOFAdd a /var and a /tmp ramfs entry, and something for /home, and you're done.02:20
DaemonikI'm wondering if /home is necessary. All these things are going to do is run NX.02:24
DaemonikUbuntu was the best choice 'cause it's like Debian, but newer and I know it's going to work. =)02:24
RAOFHeh.  I'm pretty sure you'll need a writable /home02:24
DaemonikLooks like UnionFS is the way togo.02:30
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tech0007bug 24606703:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246067 in linux "Kernel panic during boot after upgrading to kernel 2.6.26.3-generic" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24606703:19
tech0007any progress yet?03:19
Hobbseedoes it say there's any progress on teh bug?03:21
DanaGOh hey, can somebody tell me if the packaged compiz-fusion has atlantis2?04:39
crd1bno04:40
DanaGBummer.05:03
DanaGHmm, HP's "Ibuki" wallpaper goes rather well with the New Human theme05:17
DanaGhttp://h50146.www5.hp.com/products/portables/personal/zen_wallpaper/images/ibuki_02.jpg05:18
DanaGArgh, my windeco theme doesn't change with everything else.05:18
DanaGUgh, my brightness keys lag horribly... and eat CPU while doing it.05:33
DanaGEeh, not eat CPU, but they do lag.05:34
DanaGIt takes like 3/4 of a second for the response.05:34
teethdoodok off topic question, but it's so quiet in here...: should I get plenum or non-plenum cat6 cables? are building inspectors strict enough to check the actual kind of ethernet cable?06:36
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gnomefreakteethdood: try in #ubuntu-offtopic06:40
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DanaGor #hardware06:59
papabeanKudos to those of you testing Intrepid.  I thank you for your dedication.  I could not live the dream and am going back to Hardy.  :)07:19
DanaGargh, can't log into gdmflexiserver --xnest07:21
DanaGenter username: okay.07:21
DanaGenter password: okay.07:21
DanaGBack to username?  WTF?  And no error message.07:21
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[GuS]Hi guys! i was diggin at cdimage, and i was about to download latest build of intrepid live cd, and i found that each has 880MB ?? :S13:54
[GuS]http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/13:54
Hobbseeyes, they're oversized.13:54
Hobbseethey may, or may not install13:54
PiciHence the ,OVERSIZED13:54
Pici;)13:55
[GuS]ok... i will download alternate then..13:56
Hobbseesame applies w.r.t. their installability13:57
[GuS]i know, but at least are not oversized...13:58
[GuS]i am just doing it for testing... and i dont have a cd for 880MB :P13:58
shirishanybody knows where tromod volden is?14:09
godzirraHi folks.14:35
Picihi14:37
godzirraCan anyone tell me if the realtek 8199 card is on the list of network cards that may work with Intrepid?  (I tried all night last night and couldnt get it working with hardy)14:38
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G_009partial upgrade failed: could not calculate upgrade17:29
Viper550okay, I got kubuntu KDE4, gutsy, will updating to Intrepid give me KDE 4.1?17:40
JontheEchidnaViper550: yes, but it's not recommended to upgrade. You can upgrade to hardy and you will be able to install 4.1 from there17:45
Viper550nm, found it. and I meant yes I do have gutsy actually17:45
Viper550wait, Hardy17:45
* LSD|Ninja actually has a Viper V550 kicking around somewhere17:48
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LSD|NinjaWhat's so special about the ubuntu-desktop package? Why is hte latest update being held back? o_O18:20
w00tI don't know whether it's useful to anyone, but on upgrade from hardy to intrepid (I always upgrade early into the next release), I had problems with nm-applet which I think I've resolved.. with the help of http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2007-January/006877.html18:22
w00tthat fix is probably not correct here (I lack the experience of knowing), but it's probably something worth looking at..18:22
BUGabundois Alberto Milone arround?18:35
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tanathhow do you use the quick search in synaptic?21:53
tanathit's always disabled21:53
LSD|Ninjatanath: I noticed that too, no idea why it's that way though21:58
G_009'cause we're alpha turtles22:01
tanathbah22:02
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LaneyAnyone having mouse problems (possibly KVM related?)22:18
Laneyin that I can't seem to move it22:19
annahello, i the nv driver has become very unstable, i want to use vesa instead. What to do these days?22:49
annadpkg-reconfigure xserver-org won't ask what driver to use22:49
LSD|Ninjaunstable how? Aside from it being as slow as molasses and lacking 3D, I haven't noticed any major problems with nv here23:00
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maihemI'm testing intrepid alpha two in a qemu session (because it crashed under virtualbox - or killed virtualbox) and I'm having a bizarre behaviour with the pointer. It is using pointer integration by default (nice) with the xorg vmmouse driver but each unit movement of the mouse in the wetworld moves the onscreen pointer by about 64 pixels (a guess).23:49
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maihemthe regular "mouse" driver works fine (but no pointer integration)23:57

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