[00:03] <greg-g> chrisccoulson: done
[00:03] <chrisccoulson> thank you!
[00:03] <greg-g> you are welcome, thank you for helping
[00:13] <chrisccoulson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/+bug/249190 is reporting a cheese dependency problem
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> i can confirm - it is dependant on a package in hardy-proposed
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> not quite sure whether to just suggest he enables hardy-proposed or not though
[00:19] <greg-g> no, don't suggest that.  it is an issue, and should probably be brought to the attention of someone in #ubuntu-motu
[00:19] <greg-g> or -devel
[00:22] <chrisccoulson> i think he might just need to wait for the mirrors to sync
[00:22] <greg-g> chrisccoulson: that could be it too
[00:22] <chrisccoulson> according to this, the dependencies went in to hardy-updates 8 hours ago: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server
[00:31] <hggdh> chrisccoulson, very good comment on this bug. Thank you for your help
[00:31] <crimsun> chrisccoulson: yes, that's correct.  They are available in hardy-updates now.
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> no probs! hopefully it's sorted for him tomorrow. i can't see the updated packages yet, and i'm using the main server
[00:32] <chrisccoulson> i'm also running -proposed though, so i'm not actually expecting any new updates
[00:32] <crimsun> libebook1.2-9 | 2.22.3-0ubuntu1 | hardy-updates | amd64, i386
[00:32] <crimsun> libedataserver1.2-9 | 2.22.3-0ubuntu1 | hardy-updates | amd64, i386
[02:43] <takdir> i want to help fix some bugs but how to start?
[02:45] <Grantbow> takdir: welcome :-)  type "/topic" and check those URLs out first.
[02:46] <takdir> ok thanks Grantbow
[03:23] <takdir> i'm work in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/152410, but i just answer a question.
[03:42] <takdir> i'm in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/148223 i want to change status as Fix bacause the problem is solved
[03:48] <hggdh> takdir, please set the bug as a duplicate of bug 115616 -- do you know how to do it?
[03:51] <takdir> just click mark as duplicate ?
[03:51] <hggdh> yes
[03:52] <hggdh> they are related
[03:54] <takdir> ok, done
[03:55] <hggdh> takdir, then this is all - the bug is automatically closed
[03:56] <takdir> yup, i see. how to hug bug ?
[03:58]  * Grantbow hugs takdir
[03:59] <takdir> :D
[03:59] <hggdh> takdir, type "/me hugs <whoever>"
[03:59]  * hggdh hugs takdir
[04:17] <takdir> what should i do with #152410 ?. i 've been add comment and subcribe to that bug. the bug is marked expiration in 59 days
[04:27]  * takdir hugs hggdh
[04:29] <hggdh> bug 152410
[04:30] <hggdh> per Soren, installing PHP should restart Apache. If you can reproduce it, then it is a confirm
[04:32] <hggdh> (this means installing PHP, and seeing Apache *not* restart automagically)
[04:32] <techno_freak> i haven't seen installing PHP restarts Apache
[04:34] <techno_freak> no, it doesn't
[04:36] <hggdh> then I guess we can confirm -- just make make sure there are no errors reported for Apache during the install
[04:38]  * takdir agree with techno_freak, I always manually restart apache after installed php
[04:39] <techno_freak> it never did, confirmed in Feisty, Gutsy and Hardy
[04:39] <hggdh> and, please, state the Ubuntu version and PHP/Apache versions (darn, techno_freak was faster than me! ;-)
[04:39] <techno_freak> :)
[04:40] <hggdh> indeed, we need the versions in the bug
[04:40] <techno_freak> hggdh, commenting there...
[04:40] <hggdh> thank you, both takdir and techno_freak
[04:41] <techno_freak> yw :)
[04:41] <takdir> :D
[04:47] <hggdh> huh, techno_freak, what is the PHP version? (the bug is on PHP, correctly)
[04:47] <techno_freak> oh, will add that too
[04:47] <hggdh> thanks ;-)
[04:48] <hggdh> you might also change the title to something like "Installing PHP does not restart Apache"
[04:49] <hggdh> :-)
[04:49]  * hggdh feels weird, telling people what should/could be done
[04:49]  * hggdh blushes, also
[04:51] <techno_freak> hehe
[04:54] <techno_freak> done!
[04:54] <hggdh> I marked it as triaged. Thank you
[04:55] <techno_freak> :)
[05:22] <takdir> hggdh: now i'm in bug #156077. i 've leave a comment about installing driver with download url driver
[05:23] <takdir> same topics in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23387
[05:37] <mrooney> does anyone understand why bug 249316 is Fix Released?
[05:37] <mrooney> it almost looks like it was intended to imply that it is fixed upstream but needs fixed in ubuntu. unless it means Intrepid has the fix
[06:11]  * takdir hugs hggdh
[06:11] <takdir> i 've been changed status bug 156077 to invaled bacause no respon from reporter, it's true ?
[07:16] <Grantbow> What is "Malone" refered to in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks
[07:17] <Grantbow> is that an old code name for launchpad?
[07:50] <bdmurray> Grantbow: yes it is
[08:04] <Grantbow> bdmurray: ok, thanks :-)  I edited the wiki on two pages very carefully to reflect the change. - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[09:01] <bdmurray> Grantbow: great, thanks for doing that!
[10:37] <qense> hello!
[10:37] <qense> I'm back from holliday for two days!
[10:37] <qense> 450 unread mails :P
[12:07] <pwnguin> so how well do wubi and ubuntu get along?
[12:17] <pwnguin> would anyone with super powers like to take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/236307/comments/6
[12:28] <Awsoonn> g1morning all!
[12:29] <Awsoonn> guess what day it is~!
[12:29] <Pici> Thursday?
[12:29] <Pici> I could never get the hang of Thursdays.
[12:31] <Awsoonn> Hugday!
[12:31] <Awsoonn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080717
[12:31] <nhandler> Quick question. When we use the stock response asking someone to see if the bug still exists in the latest Ubuntu release, we want them to test it on Intrepid. Since intrepid is the current dev release, right?
[12:34] <Awsoonn> well, if the reporter has the ability to test that, it is ideal to report ageist the dev release
[12:35] <nhandler> Yes, but is there a point in requesting they test it with the hardy version? This will not show us if the bug still exists in the latest version of the package/ubuntu
[12:37] <Awsoonn> I usually ask for testing the dev release only if I have some sort of hunch it might be fixed there, otherwise I stick to the released version
[12:39] <nhandler> Might I ask what having them test the released version will accomplish? If the bug still exists there, it means nothing. It still could have been fixed in the dev version. The only thing testing on the stable release can show you is if it was fixed there. And even if it was fixed there, it doesn't mean it is fixed in the dev release
[12:41] <Awsoonn> It is the same as any other bug report that comes in ageist Hardy then
[12:42] <Awsoonn> It is really up to the triager, ask a few people and see what the consensus is.
[12:43] <Awsoonn> look at the changelog from hardy to Intrepid for a given package, if there is nothing there that might be a fix, save some work for the reporter. That in only my 2 cents
[13:35] <ligemeget> I wonder if bug 151427 was handled correctly
[13:37] <mrooney> ligemeget: that does seem weird to invalidate a bug when asking a question to a responsive reporter, should be incomplete I think
[13:38] <ligemeget> I'll change it back, then
[13:38] <mrooney> Oh, but it ISN'T a responsive reporter, that was a while ago
[13:38] <mrooney> ligemeget: for older bugs like that, it is standard to Invalidate them and let the reporter re-open if it still applies
[13:38] <ligemeget> Okay then, it'll just remain closed, then
[13:39] <Hobbsee> i would leave that one to mvo, as he's replied to it twice already (and may well be legitimate)
[13:39] <mrooney> yeah, as long as you give instructions on how to re-open
[13:39] <Hobbsee> on the other hand, it looks like now bzip2 has died, or something.
[13:42] <ligemeget> regarding bug 147853 - I've asked if it's still a problem, and have let it remain incomplete
[13:42] <ligemeget> Is that correct? Can I mark it as hugged now?
[13:57] <ligemeget> Two hugs. I guess that counts for something :)
[14:08] <mrooney> ligemeget: :)
[14:41] <bdmurray> thekorn: I believe I fixed your lp_gm_scripts bug this morning
[14:42] <thekorn> bdmurray, super, thanks
[14:42] <bdmurray> thekorn: there are still a couple of issues w/ it re assignee and reporter not being appended
[14:43] <thekorn> did you commit your changes, so I can test it?
[14:43] <bdmurray> yes, I belive so
[14:46] <thekorn> bdmurray, good work!
[14:46] <thekorn> thanks for fixing it
[14:47] <bdmurray> no problem
[14:47] <bdmurray> workflow reports was broken too but is fixed now
[14:50] <thekorn> I was suprised that this gm scripts integrates so well in the new UI of lp
[15:39] <bddebian> Boo
[15:40] <yuriy> whoa launchpad redesign
[15:45] <MitchM> on my ubuntu box i have my umask set to 027 in /etc/profile... i do a sudo su and it's set back to 022
[15:45] <MitchM> which is 'unsecure'
[15:46] <MitchM> bug? any thoughts? (if i do a 'sudo su -' it loads the proper umask)
[15:50] <yuriy> MitchM: different ways of using sudo give you different results, see http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[16:44] <stpere> hi! I have a bug to report, but don't know what to include as details
[16:44] <stpere> someone can help me?
[16:45] <stpere> basically, the update-manager tray icon tells me (if I hold the mouse over) that there is 1 update, and when I click to open the actual update-manager, it tells me there is 57
[16:46] <stpere> but I have no idea how to reproduce (other than it happens 100% of the time here)
[16:46] <stpere> is it a matter to fill a bug?
[16:47] <bdmurray> are they the same kinds of updates?  security or ...?
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: could you please run /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check -p
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: and put the output to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:48] <mvo> stpere: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:48] <Hobbsee> ah yes, i should report that recommends bug.
[16:48] <stpere> hardy
[16:49] <Hobbsee> then i can use the update manager again
[16:49] <mvo> stpere: and the output of "cat /etc/apt/preferences" too please
[16:49] <mvo> Hobbsee: what recommends bug?
[16:49] <Hobbsee> mvo: if you hold a package back with dpkg --set-selections, it'll still try to install the recommends regardless.
[16:50] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28050/
[16:50] <stpere> I have no file /etc/apt/preferences?!
[16:50] <mvo> stpere: and /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check (without the -p this time please)?
[16:51] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28051/
[16:52] <stpere> bdmurray: some security (8) some recommended and some suggested
[16:53] <stpere> I should update more often but I'm on dialup :)
[16:53] <bdmurray> stpere: okay, I'll let mvo help you out since he knows update-manager quite well
[16:54] <stpere> thx
[16:55] <stpere> for what it's worth, I rebooted a couple of times since I first noticed it, "refreshed" the updates in update manager too
[16:56] <mvo> stpere: that is a interessting bug you see here, could you please test a slightly modified version?
[16:56] <stpere> sure
[16:56] <mvo> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/apt-check.test
[16:56] <mvo> should print out quite some stuff
[16:57] <stpere> same output with out the -p
[16:58] <stpere> want me to paste anyway?
[16:59] <stpere> do you want the content of /var/lib/synaptic/preferences ?
[16:59] <stpere> brb
[17:01] <mvo> stpere: please let me know what that scripts outputs, the error you see is definitely a odd one
[17:02] <mvo> stpere: oh, nothing additionally? then maybe the /v/l/s/preferences file too, does that lock some of the packages you see?
[17:13] <stpere> back
[17:13] <stpere> sorry mvo to let you wait
[17:13] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28059/
[17:16] <mvo> stpere: thanks, strange. have you locked a lot of stuff with synaptic ? could you please add /var/lib/synaptic/preferences to the pastebin
[17:17] <stpere> well, that's strange, that file isn't there anymore?!
[17:18] <stpere> but I'm 100% positive it was there before I went away
[17:18] <mvo> oh?
[17:18] <mvo> how stange
[17:18] <stpere> maybe locatedb still see it
[17:19] <stpere> /var/lib/synaptic is now empty
[17:19] <DarkAudit> are these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what the (bleep) I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build
[17:20] <stpere> mvo: I don't remember locking anything with synaptic.. I added the winehq rep tho
[17:21] <stpere> you want to see my sources?
[17:21] <mvo> stpere: no, that should be fine, give me a sec and I update the test script again
[17:21] <stpere> thx
[17:22] <mvo> stpere: could you please try http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/apt-check.test2 ?
[17:23] <mvo> stpere: just download it and it it via "python apt-check.test2"
[17:26] <stpere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28063/
[17:27] <stpere> weird
[17:27] <stpere> it looks like there is an "invisible" package or something  :)
[17:27] <stpere> maybe a virus :o
[17:28] <stpere> ok, enough silly talk :)
[17:32] <stpere> coffee's ready, back in a minute (btw, are you paid by canonical or are you voluntary?)
[17:34] <stpere> re
[17:41] <greg-g> stpere: many of us are volunteers, but mvo is is a paid employee
[17:45] <bdmurray> greg-g: hey there
[17:46] <greg-g> hiya
[17:54] <greg-g> bdmurray: ong the bug/status wiki page, the first descriptor for Confirmed says something which I would deem as triaged. Thoughts? (if you have a moment)
[17:54] <greg-g> s/ong/On/
[18:04] <bdmurray> greg-g: re Confirmed I'm not sure why I wrote that and think it should be changed / removed too
[18:04] <greg-g> bdmurray: /me nods
[18:05] <bdmurray> I'll fix it later tonight then
[18:06] <greg-g> bdmurray: just need to remove that line right?
[18:07] <bdmurray> greg-g: well or something like another user has experienced the bug report
[18:08] <bdmurray> whether it be a duplicate or a comment from additional user with the problem
[18:10] <bdmurray> greg-g: so if you've a brilliant way to word that feel free
[18:10] <bdmurray> greg-g: otherwise I'll check it out tonight
[18:12] <greg-g> bdmurray: ok, I'll think on it, I have a meeting soon anyways.
[18:14] <DarkAudit> Are these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build
[18:28] <mouz> DarkAudit: to me those appear bugs, but I'm far from authorative on this point. Maybe ask in #ubuntu-motu?
[18:29] <DarkAudit> mouz: I'll try there. been trying to figure this out for 2 days now
[18:31] <mouz> DarkAudit: you can also try #ubuntu-devel
[18:31] <DarkAudit> mouz: will do :)
[18:32] <mouz> DarkAudit: but not both simultaneously :)
[18:32] <mouz> may are in both you see
[18:32] <DarkAudit> mouz: gah :)
[18:33] <stpere> num, there was a fly in my tea
[18:33] <DarkAudit> been trying regular #ubuntu and #kubuntu for 2 days now... i thought it was me missing a simple config option, but the stone silence suggested something different
[18:34] <mouz> understandable: apt-build is a devel tool
[18:36] <DarkAudit> mouz: the gathering source and building works fine as far as I can see. It's the install part where it behaves strangely (at least from my view)
[18:39] <mouz> DarkAudit: it would be interesting to see what happens if your build has a higher version. The .list thing I think is a bug, as your renaming it made apt see it.
[18:41] <DarkAudit> mouz: the built package and the remote package have identical version numbers
[18:43] <DarkAudit> which makes me think that I goofed somewhere in setting precedence for the local repository, but no one has confirmed or denied my suspicion.
[18:46] <mouz> DarkAudit: if there is no answers in the next hour I will try to see if I can confirm
[18:47] <DarkAudit> mouz: tyvm :)
[20:14] <DarkAudit> since this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build/+bug/248787 actually occurs during the install part of the process, would actually be an apt bug instead?
[20:24] <mouz> DarkAudit: got any answers in other channels?
[20:50] <mouz> DarkAudit: I set it to incomplete. The other bug I confirmed.
[21:12] <DarkAudit> mouz: not much, other than the bugs look legit to some of them, too
[21:14] <DarkAudit> mouz: since the problem I have with apt-build is in the install phase, i'm inclined to think that it's more of an apt bug, if I'm correct in thinking that apt-build hands the procedure over to apt to accomplish that part of the process.
[21:19] <mouz> DarkAudit: it is possible. However see my comment to bug 248787. I had a successfull apt-build install from the local archive.
[21:22] <DarkAudit> mouz: adding deb file:/var/cache/apt-build/repository apt-build main to top of sources.list, but leaving sources.list.save alone
[21:30] <DarkAudit> mouz: well, now! After editing sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences, synaptic is seeing packages I built with apt-build in the Local/main origin. Up until then it did not :)
[21:31] <DarkAudit> until I made the suggested changes, the only packages listed were ones i'd installed from other downloads (like a couple of taglib packages that weren't in Hardy)
[21:34] <DarkAudit> mouz: woot! confirmed your fix. sudo apt-build --reinstall --force-yes install pan installed the home-built version, as shown in http://paste.ubuntu.com/28115/
[21:43] <mouz> \o/
[23:16] <mrooney> does anyone here use a 16 bit/pixel graphics card, to confirm bug 249436?
[23:22] <ppp> My bug 243813 has been given a priority but not confirmed, can someone please confirm
[23:22] <charlie-tca> A little help please. I have an old bug #122223 against evince-gtk version .5; Evince is now in version 2.2
[23:23] <charlie-tca> The original reporter states he is no longer affected. Can this be marked fix released?
[23:26] <charlie-tca> ppp: I'll check your bug out.
[23:28] <ppp> Thanks Charlie
[23:38] <charlie-tca> ppp: I confirmed Bug #243813. good luck
[23:38] <ppp> Thanks Charlie
[23:39] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. Glad to help
[23:39] <ppp> Folks I reported a serious bug, 243803 I am no longer able to test this as my workstation HDD's have gone from four to one. For new users, this bug is a deal breaker because it prevents Ubuntu from loading after install
[23:39] <ppp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/243803
[23:40] <ppp> The bug occurs on Hardy and Intrepid
[23:41] <ppp> I have reported the workaround in the bug, I suspect the bug to be a Debian problem
[23:41] <charlie-tca> Can anyone triage bug #243813 for me? I have changed it to confirmed. There is enough information for it to be worked.
[23:47] <hggdh> charlie-tca, done. Thank you.
[23:48] <charlie-tca> thank you, hggdh
[23:53] <hggdh> ppp, ping
[23:54] <ppp> Im here
[23:54] <hggdh> I cannot expand your install.tar.lzma -- decoder error
[23:54] <ppp> Ill check on my end
[23:54] <hggdh> thank you