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emgentheya00:21
NCommanderhola emgent00:21
* NCommander needs a main sponsor00:21
NCommanderI solved the long running mono crashbug00:22
NCommanderhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/24778200:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247782 in mono "Ubuntu mono patch dont_check_proc_self_exe causes random segfaults in mono" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:22
emgentNCommander: subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors00:22
NCommanderdid00:22
emgentok now wait :)00:22
NCommandernot my strong suite ;-)00:22
emgentargh mono00:23
NCommanderYeah00:23
NCommanderThe bug was one of the ubuntu patches00:23
NCommanderA "genius" commented out an entire function to determine the root path so mono would function on an unionfs filesystem00:23
NCommanderTHe end result is it causes mono to randomly crash00:23
emgentgh00:23
NCommanderThis resolves the f-spot crash ftbfs, and the evo-sharp one00:24
NCommanderAnd probably a  few others00:24
NCommanderhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transproxy/+bug/247886 - BTW, I need an MOTU sponsor, care to donate emgent  ;-)00:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247886 in transproxy "FTBFS fix on AMD64/SPARC/IA-64" [Medium,In progress]00:24
emgenthahaha00:24
emgentok i take a look00:24
emgentNCommander: remember to add LP bug number in changelog00:26
emgentLP: #bug00:26
NCommanderd'oh00:26
NCommanderTHat debdiff been sitting awhile, its before I started doing that00:26
emgentno problem i will fix it first to upload.00:26
emgentnow i should test it.00:26
emgentwait.00:26
* NCommander waits00:27
emgentNCommander: processed.00:31
NCommandersweet00:32
NCommanderANother day, another FTBFS resolved00:32
NCommanderOnce that mono one goes, quite a few FTBFS will be resolved00:32
emgentNCommander: try to see eclipse00:32
NCommanderwhat's wrong with eclipse?00:33
emgentlisted FTBFS in dad00:33
emgent(if i remember well)00:34
NCommanderUgh00:34
NCommanderGot any idea why?00:34
emgentnope i dont use it00:34
NCommanderhttp://science.slashdot.org/science/08/07/16/1831256.shtml - Wow, way too many bad buns00:35
emgentNCommander: done. Thanks for your work in Ubuntu.00:56
NCommanderWell, my HDD is making a wonderful grinding noise01:13
=== mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Launchpad is going down from 02:00 UTC until 03:00 UTC for a code update | intrepid alpha-2 released, archive open | Ubuntu 8.04.1 released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-
=== mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: intrepid alpha-2 released, archive open | Ubuntu 8.04.1 released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs
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ScottKIf there's anyone around in ubuntu-main-sponsors, Bug 249300 can be unsubcribed.04:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249300 in libnet-dns-perl "Please sync libnet-dns-perl 0.63-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24930004:44
keessuperm1_: cool, yeah, the lpia changes look good to me.  thanks!05:22
ScottKkees: I's appreciate it if you'd add me to ubuntu-main-sponsors.05:33
keesScottK: sure thing, one sec05:45
ScottKThanks.05:45
keesScottK: done!  :)05:46
Hobbseeasac: whatever those last changes were in your network manager ppa, did anyone test them?06:29
Hobbseenm doesn't even seem to start for me now06:29
nxvlHobbsee: can you please take a look at Bug 24826006:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248260 in terminator "Please sync terminator 0.9-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24826006:45
Hobbseenxvl: is it urgent?06:49
nxvlHobbsee: not really, just getting old06:50
nxvlHobbsee: if you add it to your ToDo i will be happy06:50
efnxhi all08:04
efnxi have some programming questions08:05
efnxif you're up for them08:05
Hobbseedid you read the /topic?08:05
efnxso this is a development channel without any talk of developing apps?08:06
efnxhmmm08:06
efnxsorry i wasted your time08:06
efnxwhat is the appropriate channel?08:07
Laney#<name of language> is a good bet08:07
efnxmy questions involve finding out which language is appropriate08:09
efnxhehe08:09
* micahcowan sighs08:12
micahcowanwhat's the command for editing debian/changelog again?08:12
ion_dch08:13
micahcowanthanks much08:13
ion_dpkg -L devscripts08:13
micahcowanAgain, thanks :)08:14
micahcowan(I can never remember what devscripts is called either; when I install it, it tends to be installed via apt-get build-dep, I think.08:15
pittiGood morning08:45
pittikirkland: pong08:45
pittinxvl: pong08:45
pittiyay for contentless pings :08:45
ion_pitti: ping08:53
pittihi ion_08:54
ion_Hi :-)08:54
tseliotmorning09:00
pittihey tseliot09:00
tseliotpitti: hi ;)09:00
asacHobbsee: are you talking about "my" ppa or ~network-manager?09:26
mdzpitti: grep -i doesn't seem to fold case properly in Hardy with en_US.UTF-8 (C works).  do you know where I might look to track it down?09:51
mdzpitti: er, Intrepid09:52
pittimdz: bug 241990 got a detailled analysis and a patch 9 hours ago09:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 241990 in grep "[master] grep -i fails to work on intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24199009:52
pittiI haven't looked at it yet, though09:52
mdzpitti: thank you09:53
calcis there a tag or something else for unreproducible bugs?10:21
* pitti ususally uses needsinfo10:22
calci don't want to just mark them invalid but i'm getting so far what appears to be a lot of bugs i can't reproduce at all10:22
slangasek'incomplete'?10:26
pittiright, sorry10:26
seb128cody-somerville: how is bug #249020 a gtk bug? what fileselector backend is xubuntu using?10:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249020 in gtk+2.0 "Places list in "Save As" not up to date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24902010:28
calcyea i guess i can leave it as incomplete of course those get cleaned eventually10:28
calcbut if i can't reproduce it i can't fix it either so i guess its not too big of a problem10:28
pitticalc: I consider that a good compromise between "get out of my eyes" and not closing them immediately10:28
Keybukwho feels like reviewing my package of pywebkitgtk?10:29
Keybukhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086285/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2_source.changes10:29
cody-somervilleseb128, I'm pretty sure it uses the gtk fileselector.10:30
Keybukhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086287/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.dsc10:30
Keybukhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086286/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.tar.gz10:30
seb128cody-somerville: right, the gtk selector is not supposed to list vfs locations10:30
cody-somervilleseb128, which one is?10:31
seb128cody-somerville: the gnome-vfs and gio ones which are in libgnomeui10:31
seb128that's fixed in intrepid where the only backend is gio now and is in gtk10:31
cody-somervilleseb128, okay, thanks.10:31
mdzKeybuk: isn't there a tool which can be pointed to <url to dsc> and download a source package?   that would be handy to add to apt-get source10:32
Keybukmdz: not for launchpad that I know of10:32
liwmdz, dget ?10:32
slangasek'dget', but it requires the files to be in the same directory10:32
seb128cody-somerville: is libgnomeui installed on xubuntu?10:32
liwoh, but the urls are different10:32
slangasekwhich evidently the above files are not10:32
liwenhancing dget for that would be good, then10:33
mdzslangasek: which they are in PPAs10:33
cody-somervilleseb128, it is, yes.10:33
mdzslangasek: oh, not the librarian URLs10:33
slangasekmdz: right and right :)10:33
seb128mdz: ubuntu-dev-tools has a dgetlp doing that10:33
Ngon a similar note, if someone posts a url to a code.lp.net URL, is there something which will grab that branch? I seem to have to open the URL to get a lp:~foo/bar that bzr will use10:34
seb128dgetlp http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086287/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.dsc10:34
liwor perhaps it would be possible for launchpad to do (redirect?) urls that work with dget?10:34
mdzslangasek: http://ppa.launchpad.net/scott/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pywebkitgtk/ has adjacent URLs10:34
mdzseb128: neat10:34
seb128cody-somerville: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/file_chooser_backend?10:36
cody-somervilleseb128, one second. booting vanilla Xubuntu.10:37
cody-somervilleseb128, gio on Intrepid10:38
seb128cody-somerville: as said intrepid has no backend now, the new gio backend is in gtk10:39
seb128anyway that bug is not a gtk one, the hardy gtk is not supposed to list vfs locations10:40
cody-somervilleOkay, sounds good.10:40
seb128oh, the applications can also specify that the fileselector mode, maybe this one is using the local one10:41
seb128what application is the one described there?10:41
seb128hum, he didn't specify10:41
cody-somervilleseb128, looks like abiword10:42
cody-somervillehttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086449/save_as.png <-- the file type is ODF10:42
seb128I don't have abiword installed to try10:42
cody-somervilleI'm also pretty sure that we use abiword-gtk10:43
seb128ok, so that's likely an abiword gtk choice to not use gnome-vfs10:43
Keybukis there an abiword gtk anymore?10:43
KeybukI thought they all got merged in 2.610:43
seb128hardy didn't have 2.610:43
Keybukahh10:44
seb128mdz: btw did you fix your compiz workspace switching keybinding issue?10:52
milianI think I've spottet a bug in libplot-dev : it is compiled with PNG support (at least it depends on libpng), but in plotter.h is a #define INCLUDE_PNG_SUPPORT missing10:53
milianI just added it manually and now I can use PNGPlotter in my C++ program10:53
milianbefore it did not work10:54
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milianI'll report a bug. but if there's anybody who has the ability to update the packages in backport, please do so. it's just one added line10:55
Mithrandirhumm, python2.5 2.5.2-2ubuntu5 was removed from -proposed?11:02
Mithrandirthat seems slightly unfortunate, since python2.5-dev was then uninstallable for me.11:03
slangasekyes, packages in -proposed aren't guaranteed to not be rolled back11:03
Mithrandirhm, that's not very well communicated, I think.11:04
slangasekthis one was rolled back because it was blocking 8.04.1 CD builds and had an insufficient SRU justification at the time11:04
mdzseb128: mvo asked about which compiz settings backend I was using, and I told him11:04
mdzI don't think I heard more after that11:04
mvomdz: did you switched from flat-file to gconf to test if that would fix the issue?11:05
mdzmvo: no11:05
mvocould you please try that?11:05
mdzyes11:05
slangasekMithrandir: probably true that it's not communicated well.  bug report on software-properties-gtk, maybe?11:05
TheMusopitti: If sound-juicer is removed from desktop-recommends, what will be available for CD ripping?11:05
mdzmvo: seems to work11:06
pittiTheMuso: rhythmbox does that just fine, and much better integrated11:06
TheMusopitti: Oh ok, I'm guessing it uses bits of sound-juicer at the backend then?11:06
pittiTheMuso: I think it has its own implementation, but I'll check with Seb11:07
TheMusopitti: No big deal, just wondering.11:07
pittiTheMuso: just gstreamer11:07
Mithrandirslangasek: or perhaps on apt-setup.11:07
Mithrandir(since I don't usually use graphical tools)11:07
slangasekoh, does apt-setup handle configuring of -proposed?11:07
cjwatsonif you pass apt-setup/proposed=true, yes11:07
slangasekhmm, difficult to document it better in the case of preseeding :)11:08
cjwatsonoh, you mean the comment11:08
Mithrandirslangasek: it writes the initial sources.list, which could then have a url to a page telling you the policy for each pocket.11:08
cjwatsonapt-setup does have a comment for proposed11:08
cjwatsonbut only if preseeded11:08
Mithrandirwell, this install is from back in 2004..11:09
Mithrandirit's post-warty, but only barely.11:09
* liw does not think that warrants a system-cleaner plugin, but would not be opposed to someone writing one :)11:10
seb128mdz: ok, mvo has been faster than me on this one ;-)11:10
mdzmvo: which one is the default?11:16
mdzmvo: I don't think I ever changed it11:16
mvomdz: the default is gconf, but I suspect for a brief period the gconf plugin was broken and then compiz automatically switches back to flat-file11:17
pittiasac: can we build firefox against the external rhino packages instead of using the internal copy? it just went to main yesterday for openjdk11:21
mdzmvo: permanently?11:25
mvomdz: unfortunately yet, that is something that needs fixing (it should probably just fail to start instead of falling back)11:30
asacpitti: rhino?11:38
asacpitti: thats a java javascript interpreter11:38
pittiasac: doko said ffox has an internal copy?11:39
asacpitti: its developed by mozilla, yes. but afaict its not used by ffox ...11:39
* asac looking11:39
pittiok, thanks11:39
dokoso what does ffox use for js?11:40
asacdoko: spidermonkey11:40
asacdoko: e.g. xulrunner javascript11:40
asacdoko: dont see any rhino files in xulrunner tree ... except Development/upstream/mozilla/mozilla/extensions/irc/js/lib/connection-rhino.js11:41
asacbut thats not something different and we dont build the irc extension11:41
dokook11:42
Karnaughis there a rootfs.sort file for hardy anywhere?11:46
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norsettoasac: is it too late already for gnome-mplayer/gecko-mediaplayer?12:29
emgentmoin12:41
Hobbseeasac: ~network-manager12:52
slangasekbitwise negation of network-manager?12:52
Hobbseeslangasek: there's a dget-lp too, as LP haven't implemented dget yet12:53
Hobbseeslangasek: no :)12:53
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pittimdz: argh, I should have interpreted "tehtool" more carefully, I guess :)13:37
* slangasek grins13:38
robertjI'm on hardy with the -restricted driver and am getting some corruption as seen at the bottom of the image at http://pr0t0n.homeip.net/~robertj/boohoo.png, is this a known issue or should I file a bug? Also, what is this kind of visual corruption called so I can better search launchpad?13:44
Riddellcjwatson: casper fix for KDM committed, should I upload?13:51
Riddellcjwatson: was there a bug for that?  I don't see it in the milestone list13:52
pittifor a few days now I get empty root-owned "2.6.26" files in my home and other directories; does that happen to other people as well?13:53
* pitti blinks at the kernel team13:54
pittiRiddell: any luck with polkit-kde yesterday?13:56
Hobbseepitti: not here13:56
Riddellpitti: no, didn't get an answer from the author either about what's happening with it, will poke him again13:57
pittiRiddell: ok; do you actually aim for getting that into intrepid, or are you fine with kdesudo for the time being?13:58
Riddellpitti: kpackagekit is working well and uses policykit so I hinted when I e-mailed them yesterday they might want to look at polkit-kde13:58
pittiRiddell: right, I saw your mail on the upstream ML13:58
Riddellpitti: I doubt it's worth me spending time on it, so I guess kdesudo is the working plan13:59
tseliotRiddell: what's the problem with polkit-kde?14:00
Riddelltseliot: "doesn't work"14:00
Riddelltseliot: I don't know enough about the internals of policykit to say why it doesn't work14:00
tseliotRiddell: can I see the code?14:01
Riddelltseliot: you can indeed, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/PolicyKit-kde/14:01
tseliotRiddell: thanks, I'll play with it and see what happens14:02
Riddelltseliot: good luck!14:02
tseliotI'll need it ;)14:03
pittitseliot: it complains at startup that it cannot allocate a PolkitContext or so; it doesn't actually sound like a hard bug, but I don't know how complete the implementation is in general14:03
tseliotpitti: doesn't Pardus use it already?14:04
pittimight be, but maybe with an older PK or so14:04
tseliotI think I have Pardus in a virtual machine somewhere. I'll look into this issue14:05
tseliotfound14:05
Riddelltseliot: yeah, this is a KDE 4 port of Pardus' code14:07
tseliotRiddell: they still use the kde 3 version, right?14:11
Riddelltseliot: pardus does yes14:15
Riddelltseliot: http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/devel/desktop/kde/PolicyKit-kde/14:16
pittimvo: I just tried pypolkit-0.1, BTW; it works just fine for the client side14:19
kirklandpitti hiya14:21
kirklandpitti: I think I was pinging about your conffile comments on ecryptfs-utils, but I understand now that you're talking about the auth-client-config bits14:22
pittikirkland: exactly14:23
kirklandpitti: sorry, i had totally forgotten about those14:23
kirklandpitti: those are temporary, stop gap measures, until such time as we have a pam configurator14:23
kirklandpitti: i'm merging right now, and I'll fix that up14:24
pittikirkland: thanks14:24
pittikirkland: btw, since you seem to know about auth-client-config14:24
pittikirkland: I have that package libpam-ck-connector14:25
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pittikirkland: after installation I need to add a line to /etc/pam.d/common-session (if it isn'tthere ye)14:25
pittikirkland: can I do that with auth-client-config?14:25
kirklandpitti: yes, basically you just need to create a template for auth-client-config14:26
kirklandpitti: s/template/profile/14:26
kirklandpitti: auth-client-config can generate that for you, actually14:26
pittikirkland: is there an example I can look at? I need that for one of my specs14:27
kirklandpitti: sure, ecryptfs-utils14:27
kirklandpitti:  in intrepid14:27
pittikirkland: cool, I'll do that14:27
kirklandpitti: look at debian/ecryptfs.acc14:27
Riddellpitti: looks like network-manager for KDE 4 isn't ready yet, so we do need dbus-1-qt3 in main (bug 249453), also openbabel is synced for a re-review14:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249453 in dbus-1-qt3 "dbus-1-qt3 main inclusion review" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24945314:30
kirklandpitti: start with a pristine PAM setup14:30
pittimvo: OTOH, my current code for obtaining a PK auth is 5 lines...14:30
kirklandpitti: make your change14:30
kirklandpitti: or changes14:30
kirklandpitti: and then run auth-client-config -S14:30
tseliotRiddel: I think that this is the full code of the kde 3 policykit package: https://svn.uludag.org.tr/uludag/trunk/PolicyKit-kde/14:30
kirklandpitti: that'll generate the profile you need to add to the package14:30
pittiRiddell: ok, noted14:30
pittiRiddell: I'm not too scared about adding pure language bindings14:31
kirklandpitti: and in your package, you'll want to install it to etc/auth-client-config/profile.d/WHATEVER14:31
Riddelltseliot: yes, that looks more like it14:31
pittikirkland: it seems that ecryptfs is the only real user of that so far :)14:31
kirklandpitti: hmm, jdstrand might know of some other consumers14:32
jdstrandpitti: ldap-auth-config14:33
pittiah, right14:33
jdstrandpitti: hi btw!14:34
pittihey jdstrand, good morning14:34
Riddellslangasek: where do you notice KDE packages recommending on the dbg packages?14:48
norsettoseb128: thx for confirming bug 24790914:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247909 in claws-mail "clawsmail ftbfs with gtk+-2.13" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24790914:48
seb128norsetto: no problem, thank you for the clear description and looking in the upstream bug tracker too14:49
slangasekRiddell: did you get the url I dropped in scrollback yesterday, or shall I fetch it again?14:51
Riddellslangasek: let me look in the logs14:51
slangasekRiddell: it looks like ktorrent is to blame14:53
Riddellslangasek: can't find it in the logs14:53
slangasekRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/kubuntu-recommends-diff14:54
slangasekRiddell: so one upload will apparently take out... 156MB or something :)14:55
Riddellhmm, lots of kde 3 stuff in there too which shouldn't be14:56
slangasekzul: so do you have an opinion on including samba 3.2 in intrepid still?14:59
zulslangasek: mathiaz and I were discussing it and we think it would be a good idea15:02
mathiazslangasek: I think that's the way to go15:02
slangasekok15:02
slangasekgood :-)15:02
mathiazslangasek: are you planning to upload 3.2 to unstable ?15:02
mathiazslangasek: otherwise we'd have to pull it from experimental15:03
slangasekmathiaz: yes, next week or so I think15:03
slangasekyou'll want -3, -2 isn't ready yet15:03
mathiazslangasek: if you plan to upload to unstable, then we can wait until 3.2 reaches unstable15:04
* slangasek nods15:04
zulcool, are we going to put all of those ubuntu patches back (ie the modifications to smb.conf)15:04
slangasekpull them back?15:04
slangasekI hope you're going to do a standard merge :)15:04
mathiazzul: well - it will be a standard merge15:04
zulmathiaz: ok thats what I thought15:04
jcristauslangasek: 3.0.31 ftbfs on goetz because of an unclean chroot fwiw, in case you haven't noticed15:07
smagouncjwatson: I'm having trouble with germinate on hardy, I understand you're the one to talk to. I created a new package in ubuntu-meta (based on ubuntu-desktop) that pulls from 2 custom seeds I have in bzr. I have a custom version # for ubuntu-meta (e.g. 1.102foo1).15:12
mvopitti: thanks15:12
smagouncjwatson: when I run the update script in ubuntu-meta, it updates my new seed properly but doesn't update the changelog - it thinks there are no changes, even though germinate properly regenerates things from my updated seeds.15:13
slangasekjcristau: ah, thanks; I hadn't looked too closely, still assumed it was a buildd catch-up issue15:14
slangasekgar, kdelibs4-dev again?15:15
slangasekPerhaps I should revisit that build-conflicts, anyway15:15
StevenKupdate-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so: No such file or directory15:17
StevenKHas anyone seen that?15:17
slangasekStevenK: not since about a month before the hardy release when it was fixed?15:29
ion_benc: /etc/kernel/prerm.d/last-good-boot from my patch made it into the package, but it requires the change to /usr/sbin/kernel-helper which doesn’t seem to have been applied.15:29
bryce_calc: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts15:30
StevenKslangasek: It's showing up in intrepid, which makes me curious ...15:30
bryce_calc: there is a bzr branch you can check out, which has a README explaining the scripts and how to install them15:30
calcbryce_: thanks!15:30
calcanyone know if these 'lzma decoder' errors that people report are just due to bad downloads or something else?15:31
StevenKslangasek: So, more information, please? :-)15:32
slangasekStevenK: the problem is simply that the package creating the alternative has failed to arrange to create the target directory first15:33
slangasekStevenK: nothing more to it than that15:33
StevenKslangasek: Ahh, so I need to sprinkle in mkdir -p ?15:35
slangasekStevenK: you need to ship the directories in the package...15:36
StevenKslangasek: Right, so iz a icedtea-gcjwebplugin bug15:37
calcbryce_: oh yea are the greasemonkey scripts still broken with the new pages?15:50
calcbryce_: i tried using them but they don't seem to work15:51
Riddellbryce: kcmshell4 display16:23
bryce_Riddell: thanks16:32
bryce_calc: btw you may want to edit the karma-suffix gm script to add teams you care about (the list is about mid-way down the script)16:34
bryce_calc, also all the scripts should work.  If you find any issues (or make any enhancements), let us know.16:35
calcbryce_: i found out the cp instructions apparently don't work16:41
calcbryce_: and it also doesn't work if you have adblock plus unless you disable it on the lp servers16:42
calcoh and you have to have ABP disabled to install the scripts as well16:42
StevenKslangasek: I don't think icedtea-gcjwebplugin did this in Hardy. So I need to do it for the update-alternatives in Intrepid?16:44
slangasekStevenK: it's not an update-alternatives change.16:44
bryce_calc: thanks, I'll update the docs16:45
slangasekStevenK: update-alternatives has TTBOMK always expected the calling package to take care that the target directory exists first16:45
mathiazslangasek: I'm working on cn=config upgrade - do you think this should be done in the preinst or the postinst ?16:46
slangasekmathiaz: postinst16:46
* calc loves the greasemonkey scripts :)16:59
ion_Funny, aptitude wanted to remove aptitude, since it was removed from ubuntu-minimal’s dependencies.17:29
ion_pitti: Was that intentional?17:29
cjwatsonRiddell: casper> please go ahead17:39
cjwatsonsmagoun: germinate> could I have a pointer to the bzr branches in question and a pointer to your existing ubuntu-meta package (i.e. a reproduction recipe) together with a dump of the output you're getting, please?17:39
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mario_limonciellsmagoun, the old "lists" of packages need to be present in the directory for it to determine what's changed17:57
mario_limonciellso if you were just using the bzr branch of ubuntu-meta to get started, those likely wouldn't be there17:58
mario_limonciellyou'd need to copy them from the latest "release" of ubuntu-meta i believe17:58
cjwatsonmario_limonciell: yeah, though he said he already had a custom version so I was assuming this was on top of that18:17
cjwatsonplus, I think germinate-update-metapackage's response to that situation would be to claim that everything was added, wouldn't it?18:18
cjwatsonoh, no, I'm mistaken on that one18:18
cjwatsonso yeah, could be something like that18:18
mario_limonciellyeah at least i remembered running into that way back when when first dealing with creating a meta based off ubuntu-meta18:19
DarkAuditAre these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build18:32
mathiazslangasek: IIUC all of the code related to ldbm->bdb migration in slapd can be dropped.18:39
slangasekoh, we were carrying that around just for the hardy release, weren't we \o/18:39
mathiazslangasek: oh - ok - I wasn't sure about htat18:40
mathiazslangasek: if that was for hardy - then yes18:40
mathiazslangasek: that will simplify a lot !18:40
slangasekyes, I think if you look back at the svn history, Russ already removed it once and I asked to re-add it for hardy's benefit (dapper upgrades)18:40
mathiazslangasek: great - that means we don't need to dump any database18:41
mathiazslangasek: should the code be kept around ?18:41
slangasekmathiaz: no, that's what VCS history is for :-)18:41
slangasekoh, well -18:41
slangasekif you mean the code to *do* a database dump and reload, yes it should18:41
slangaseksince that applies every time we have to deal with a bdb upgrade or a backend change18:41
slytherinCan I request here a sync to be processed that has been pending for almost a week now? Or should I leave it as it is?18:42
mathiazslangasek: ok - I'll keep the code around then - it won't be used the maintainer script though.18:42
slangasekright18:42
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ion_benc: Hi. Did you notice my message?18:54
BenCion_: Yeah, can you send me a diff?18:55
ion_benc: A new one?18:56
BenCion_: yeah, against the current tree if you don't mind18:57
ion_benc: Will do, a moment.18:58
BenCion_: thanks18:59
slytherinCan someone please process a sync bug - bug #24771219:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 247712 in statcvs "Please sync statcvs 1:0.4.0.dfsg-2 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24771219:01
geserslytherin: as there is currently a developer sprint, I guess sync request make take some time to get processed19:10
slytheringeser: Oh, ok19:10
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smagouncjwatson: germinate> thanks for your help. I sent you mail with links to the (private for now) seeds and ubuntu-meta source20:20
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cody-somervillesmagoun, were you able to come up with a more optimal solution?21:16
smagouncody-somerville: nope, not yet21:25
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vbman11so i'm sorry in advance for this question, I just got a new computer and went to compile an app when I remembered that there is a package I need to be able to compile and I forgot the name of the package.23:00
vbman11can anyone help me23:01
LaserJockvbman11: perhaps you're thinking of build-essential ?23:04
vbman11yes!!!23:04
vbman11thats it23:04
vbman11thanks!23:04
LaserJockvbman11: no problem23:04
vbman11wow I feel stupid23:05
vbman11that should come pre installed23:07
StevenKNot all users want to build stuff23:07
vbman11not all have to23:07
vbman11It's not like it's a huge package23:08
vbman11w/ all of it's dependencys23:08
StevenKIt is, actually.23:08
vbman11how big23:09
vbman11I didn't really look23:09
vbman11It didn't look that big when I glanced at the numbers23:09
LaserJockI can't remember if it's on the CDs or not23:10
LaserJockbut if it isn't then that would defiantly be why23:10
vbman11ok23:11
LaserJockeven 1MB counts when the CD is oversized :-)23:11
vbman11ohh23:11
vbman11I'm setting up a mythbox23:12
vbman11and I need to install ALOT of packages to get the s-video working23:12
LaserJockhowever, it does look to me like build-essential is on the CD, but not installed by default23:13
vbman11my card is an ati radeon 7000 pci23:13
vbman11(really old comp, no agp or pcie)23:13
vbman11ohh ok23:14
vbman11well thanks for everyones help23:15
LaserJockhmm, I don't really know why it's not installed, it is on the CDs, whatever23:20

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