[00:21] heya [00:21] hola emgent [00:21] * NCommander needs a main sponsor [00:22] I solved the long running mono crashbug [00:22] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/247782 [00:22] Launchpad bug 247782 in mono "Ubuntu mono patch dont_check_proc_self_exe causes random segfaults in mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:22] NCommander: subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors [00:22] did [00:22] ok now wait :) [00:22] not my strong suite ;-) [00:23] argh mono [00:23] Yeah [00:23] The bug was one of the ubuntu patches [00:23] A "genius" commented out an entire function to determine the root path so mono would function on an unionfs filesystem [00:23] THe end result is it causes mono to randomly crash [00:23] gh [00:24] This resolves the f-spot crash ftbfs, and the evo-sharp one [00:24] And probably a few others [00:24] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transproxy/+bug/247886 - BTW, I need an MOTU sponsor, care to donate emgent ;-) [00:24] Launchpad bug 247886 in transproxy "FTBFS fix on AMD64/SPARC/IA-64" [Medium,In progress] [00:24] hahaha [00:24] ok i take a look [00:26] NCommander: remember to add LP bug number in changelog [00:26] LP: #bug [00:26] d'oh [00:26] THat debdiff been sitting awhile, its before I started doing that [00:26] no problem i will fix it first to upload. [00:26] now i should test it. [00:26] wait. [00:27] * NCommander waits [00:31] NCommander: processed. [00:32] sweet [00:32] ANother day, another FTBFS resolved [00:32] Once that mono one goes, quite a few FTBFS will be resolved [00:32] NCommander: try to see eclipse [00:33] what's wrong with eclipse? [00:33] listed FTBFS in dad [00:34] (if i remember well) [00:34] Ugh [00:34] Got any idea why? [00:34] nope i dont use it [00:35] http://science.slashdot.org/science/08/07/16/1831256.shtml - Wow, way too many bad buns [00:56] NCommander: done. Thanks for your work in Ubuntu. [01:13] Well, my HDD is making a wonderful grinding noise === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Launchpad is going down from 02:00 UTC until 03:00 UTC for a code update | intrepid alpha-2 released, archive open | Ubuntu 8.04.1 released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu- === mthaddon changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: intrepid alpha-2 released, archive open | Ubuntu 8.04.1 released | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper/feisty/gutsy/hardy, #ubuntu+1 for intrepid | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs === NCommanders is now known as NCommander === asac_ is now known as asac [04:44] If there's anyone around in ubuntu-main-sponsors, Bug 249300 can be unsubcribed. [04:44] Launchpad bug 249300 in libnet-dns-perl "Please sync libnet-dns-perl 0.63-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249300 [05:22] superm1_: cool, yeah, the lpia changes look good to me. thanks! [05:33] kees: I's appreciate it if you'd add me to ubuntu-main-sponsors. [05:45] ScottK: sure thing, one sec [05:45] Thanks. [05:46] ScottK: done! :) [06:29] asac: whatever those last changes were in your network manager ppa, did anyone test them? [06:29] nm doesn't even seem to start for me now [06:45] Hobbsee: can you please take a look at Bug 248260 [06:45] Launchpad bug 248260 in terminator "Please sync terminator 0.9-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248260 [06:49] nxvl: is it urgent? [06:50] Hobbsee: not really, just getting old [06:50] Hobbsee: if you add it to your ToDo i will be happy [08:04] hi all [08:05] i have some programming questions [08:05] if you're up for them [08:05] did you read the /topic? [08:06] so this is a development channel without any talk of developing apps? [08:06] hmmm [08:06] sorry i wasted your time [08:07] what is the appropriate channel? [08:07] # is a good bet [08:09] my questions involve finding out which language is appropriate [08:09] hehe [08:12] * micahcowan sighs [08:12] what's the command for editing debian/changelog again? [08:13] dch [08:13] thanks much [08:13] dpkg -L devscripts [08:14] Again, thanks :) [08:15] (I can never remember what devscripts is called either; when I install it, it tends to be installed via apt-get build-dep, I think. [08:45] Good morning [08:45] kirkland: pong [08:45] nxvl: pong [08:45] yay for contentless pings : [08:53] pitti: ping [08:54] hi ion_ [08:54] Hi :-) [09:00] morning [09:00] hey tseliot [09:00] pitti: hi ;) [09:26] Hobbsee: are you talking about "my" ppa or ~network-manager? [09:51] pitti: grep -i doesn't seem to fold case properly in Hardy with en_US.UTF-8 (C works). do you know where I might look to track it down? [09:52] pitti: er, Intrepid [09:52] mdz: bug 241990 got a detailled analysis and a patch 9 hours ago [09:52] Launchpad bug 241990 in grep "[master] grep -i fails to work on intrepid" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241990 [09:52] I haven't looked at it yet, though [09:53] pitti: thank you [10:21] is there a tag or something else for unreproducible bugs? [10:22] * pitti ususally uses needsinfo [10:22] i don't want to just mark them invalid but i'm getting so far what appears to be a lot of bugs i can't reproduce at all [10:26] 'incomplete'? [10:26] right, sorry [10:28] cody-somerville: how is bug #249020 a gtk bug? what fileselector backend is xubuntu using? [10:28] Launchpad bug 249020 in gtk+2.0 "Places list in "Save As" not up to date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249020 [10:28] yea i guess i can leave it as incomplete of course those get cleaned eventually [10:28] but if i can't reproduce it i can't fix it either so i guess its not too big of a problem [10:28] calc: I consider that a good compromise between "get out of my eyes" and not closing them immediately [10:29] who feels like reviewing my package of pywebkitgtk? [10:29] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086285/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2_source.changes [10:30] seb128, I'm pretty sure it uses the gtk fileselector. [10:30] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086287/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.dsc [10:30] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086286/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.tar.gz [10:30] cody-somerville: right, the gtk selector is not supposed to list vfs locations [10:31] seb128, which one is? [10:31] cody-somerville: the gnome-vfs and gio ones which are in libgnomeui [10:31] that's fixed in intrepid where the only backend is gio now and is in gtk [10:31] seb128, okay, thanks. [10:32] Keybuk: isn't there a tool which can be pointed to and download a source package? that would be handy to add to apt-get source [10:32] mdz: not for launchpad that I know of [10:32] mdz, dget ? [10:32] 'dget', but it requires the files to be in the same directory [10:32] cody-somerville: is libgnomeui installed on xubuntu? [10:32] oh, but the urls are different [10:32] which evidently the above files are not [10:33] enhancing dget for that would be good, then [10:33] slangasek: which they are in PPAs [10:33] seb128, it is, yes. [10:33] slangasek: oh, not the librarian URLs [10:33] mdz: right and right :) [10:33] mdz: ubuntu-dev-tools has a dgetlp doing that [10:34] on a similar note, if someone posts a url to a code.lp.net URL, is there something which will grab that branch? I seem to have to open the URL to get a lp:~foo/bar that bzr will use [10:34] dgetlp http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086287/pywebkitgtk_0.2%2Bgit20080708-0ubuntu2.dsc [10:34] or perhaps it would be possible for launchpad to do (redirect?) urls that work with dget? [10:34] slangasek: http://ppa.launchpad.net/scott/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pywebkitgtk/ has adjacent URLs [10:34] seb128: neat [10:36] cody-somerville: gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/file_chooser_backend? [10:37] seb128, one second. booting vanilla Xubuntu. [10:38] seb128, gio on Intrepid [10:39] cody-somerville: as said intrepid has no backend now, the new gio backend is in gtk [10:40] anyway that bug is not a gtk one, the hardy gtk is not supposed to list vfs locations [10:40] Okay, sounds good. [10:41] oh, the applications can also specify that the fileselector mode, maybe this one is using the local one [10:41] what application is the one described there? [10:41] hum, he didn't specify [10:42] seb128, looks like abiword [10:42] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16086449/save_as.png <-- the file type is ODF [10:42] I don't have abiword installed to try [10:43] I'm also pretty sure that we use abiword-gtk [10:43] ok, so that's likely an abiword gtk choice to not use gnome-vfs [10:43] is there an abiword gtk anymore? [10:43] I thought they all got merged in 2.6 [10:43] hardy didn't have 2.6 [10:44] ahh [10:52] mdz: btw did you fix your compiz workspace switching keybinding issue? [10:53] I think I've spottet a bug in libplot-dev : it is compiled with PNG support (at least it depends on libpng), but in plotter.h is a #define INCLUDE_PNG_SUPPORT missing [10:53] I just added it manually and now I can use PNGPlotter in my C++ program [10:54] before it did not work === hunger_t is now known as hunger [10:55] I'll report a bug. but if there's anybody who has the ability to update the packages in backport, please do so. it's just one added line [11:02] humm, python2.5 2.5.2-2ubuntu5 was removed from -proposed? [11:03] that seems slightly unfortunate, since python2.5-dev was then uninstallable for me. [11:03] yes, packages in -proposed aren't guaranteed to not be rolled back [11:04] hm, that's not very well communicated, I think. [11:04] this one was rolled back because it was blocking 8.04.1 CD builds and had an insufficient SRU justification at the time [11:04] seb128: mvo asked about which compiz settings backend I was using, and I told him [11:04] I don't think I heard more after that [11:05] mdz: did you switched from flat-file to gconf to test if that would fix the issue? [11:05] mvo: no [11:05] could you please try that? [11:05] yes [11:05] Mithrandir: probably true that it's not communicated well. bug report on software-properties-gtk, maybe? [11:05] pitti: If sound-juicer is removed from desktop-recommends, what will be available for CD ripping? [11:06] mvo: seems to work [11:06] TheMuso: rhythmbox does that just fine, and much better integrated [11:06] pitti: Oh ok, I'm guessing it uses bits of sound-juicer at the backend then? [11:07] TheMuso: I think it has its own implementation, but I'll check with Seb [11:07] pitti: No big deal, just wondering. [11:07] TheMuso: just gstreamer [11:07] slangasek: or perhaps on apt-setup. [11:07] (since I don't usually use graphical tools) [11:07] oh, does apt-setup handle configuring of -proposed? [11:07] if you pass apt-setup/proposed=true, yes [11:08] hmm, difficult to document it better in the case of preseeding :) [11:08] oh, you mean the comment [11:08] slangasek: it writes the initial sources.list, which could then have a url to a page telling you the policy for each pocket. [11:08] apt-setup does have a comment for proposed [11:08] but only if preseeded [11:09] well, this install is from back in 2004.. [11:09] it's post-warty, but only barely. [11:10] * liw does not think that warrants a system-cleaner plugin, but would not be opposed to someone writing one :) [11:10] mdz: ok, mvo has been faster than me on this one ;-) [11:16] mvo: which one is the default? [11:16] mvo: I don't think I ever changed it [11:17] mdz: the default is gconf, but I suspect for a brief period the gconf plugin was broken and then compiz automatically switches back to flat-file [11:21] asac: can we build firefox against the external rhino packages instead of using the internal copy? it just went to main yesterday for openjdk [11:25] mvo: permanently? [11:30] mdz: unfortunately yet, that is something that needs fixing (it should probably just fail to start instead of falling back) [11:38] pitti: rhino? [11:38] pitti: thats a java javascript interpreter [11:39] asac: doko said ffox has an internal copy? [11:39] pitti: its developed by mozilla, yes. but afaict its not used by ffox ... [11:39] * asac looking [11:39] ok, thanks [11:40] so what does ffox use for js? [11:40] doko: spidermonkey [11:40] doko: e.g. xulrunner javascript [11:41] doko: dont see any rhino files in xulrunner tree ... except Development/upstream/mozilla/mozilla/extensions/irc/js/lib/connection-rhino.js [11:41] but thats not something different and we dont build the irc extension [11:42] ok [11:46] is there a rootfs.sort file for hardy anywhere? === svolpe_gerrath is now known as svolpe [12:29] asac: is it too late already for gnome-mplayer/gecko-mediaplayer? [12:41] moin [12:52] asac: ~network-manager [12:52] bitwise negation of network-manager? [12:53] slangasek: there's a dget-lp too, as LP haven't implemented dget yet [12:53] slangasek: no :) === geser_ is now known as geser [13:37] mdz: argh, I should have interpreted "tehtool" more carefully, I guess :) [13:38] * slangasek grins [13:44] I'm on hardy with the -restricted driver and am getting some corruption as seen at the bottom of the image at http://pr0t0n.homeip.net/~robertj/boohoo.png, is this a known issue or should I file a bug? Also, what is this kind of visual corruption called so I can better search launchpad? [13:51] cjwatson: casper fix for KDM committed, should I upload? [13:52] cjwatson: was there a bug for that? I don't see it in the milestone list [13:53] for a few days now I get empty root-owned "2.6.26" files in my home and other directories; does that happen to other people as well? [13:54] * pitti blinks at the kernel team [13:56] Riddell: any luck with polkit-kde yesterday? [13:56] pitti: not here [13:57] pitti: no, didn't get an answer from the author either about what's happening with it, will poke him again [13:58] Riddell: ok; do you actually aim for getting that into intrepid, or are you fine with kdesudo for the time being? [13:58] pitti: kpackagekit is working well and uses policykit so I hinted when I e-mailed them yesterday they might want to look at polkit-kde [13:58] Riddell: right, I saw your mail on the upstream ML [13:59] pitti: I doubt it's worth me spending time on it, so I guess kdesudo is the working plan [14:00] Riddell: what's the problem with polkit-kde? [14:00] tseliot: "doesn't work" [14:00] tseliot: I don't know enough about the internals of policykit to say why it doesn't work [14:01] Riddell: can I see the code? [14:01] tseliot: you can indeed, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/PolicyKit-kde/ [14:02] Riddell: thanks, I'll play with it and see what happens [14:02] tseliot: good luck! [14:03] I'll need it ;) [14:03] tseliot: it complains at startup that it cannot allocate a PolkitContext or so; it doesn't actually sound like a hard bug, but I don't know how complete the implementation is in general [14:04] pitti: doesn't Pardus use it already? [14:04] might be, but maybe with an older PK or so [14:05] I think I have Pardus in a virtual machine somewhere. I'll look into this issue [14:05] found [14:07] tseliot: yeah, this is a KDE 4 port of Pardus' code [14:11] Riddell: they still use the kde 3 version, right? [14:15] tseliot: pardus does yes [14:16] tseliot: http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/devel/desktop/kde/PolicyKit-kde/ [14:19] mvo: I just tried pypolkit-0.1, BTW; it works just fine for the client side [14:21] pitti hiya [14:22] pitti: I think I was pinging about your conffile comments on ecryptfs-utils, but I understand now that you're talking about the auth-client-config bits [14:23] kirkland: exactly [14:23] pitti: sorry, i had totally forgotten about those [14:23] pitti: those are temporary, stop gap measures, until such time as we have a pam configurator [14:24] pitti: i'm merging right now, and I'll fix that up [14:24] kirkland: thanks [14:24] kirkland: btw, since you seem to know about auth-client-config [14:25] kirkland: I have that package libpam-ck-connector === siretart_ is now known as siretart [14:25] kirkland: after installation I need to add a line to /etc/pam.d/common-session (if it isn'tthere ye) [14:25] kirkland: can I do that with auth-client-config? [14:26] pitti: yes, basically you just need to create a template for auth-client-config [14:26] pitti: s/template/profile/ [14:26] pitti: auth-client-config can generate that for you, actually [14:27] kirkland: is there an example I can look at? I need that for one of my specs [14:27] pitti: sure, ecryptfs-utils [14:27] pitti: in intrepid [14:27] kirkland: cool, I'll do that [14:27] pitti: look at debian/ecryptfs.acc [14:29] pitti: looks like network-manager for KDE 4 isn't ready yet, so we do need dbus-1-qt3 in main (bug 249453), also openbabel is synced for a re-review [14:30] Launchpad bug 249453 in dbus-1-qt3 "dbus-1-qt3 main inclusion review" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249453 [14:30] pitti: start with a pristine PAM setup [14:30] mvo: OTOH, my current code for obtaining a PK auth is 5 lines... [14:30] pitti: make your change [14:30] pitti: or changes [14:30] pitti: and then run auth-client-config -S [14:30] Riddel: I think that this is the full code of the kde 3 policykit package: https://svn.uludag.org.tr/uludag/trunk/PolicyKit-kde/ [14:30] pitti: that'll generate the profile you need to add to the package [14:30] Riddell: ok, noted [14:31] Riddell: I'm not too scared about adding pure language bindings [14:31] pitti: and in your package, you'll want to install it to etc/auth-client-config/profile.d/WHATEVER [14:31] tseliot: yes, that looks more like it [14:31] kirkland: it seems that ecryptfs is the only real user of that so far :) [14:32] pitti: hmm, jdstrand might know of some other consumers [14:33] pitti: ldap-auth-config [14:33] ah, right [14:34] pitti: hi btw! [14:34] hey jdstrand, good morning [14:48] slangasek: where do you notice KDE packages recommending on the dbg packages? [14:48] seb128: thx for confirming bug 247909 [14:48] Launchpad bug 247909 in claws-mail "clawsmail ftbfs with gtk+-2.13" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247909 [14:49] norsetto: no problem, thank you for the clear description and looking in the upstream bug tracker too [14:51] Riddell: did you get the url I dropped in scrollback yesterday, or shall I fetch it again? [14:51] slangasek: let me look in the logs [14:53] Riddell: it looks like ktorrent is to blame [14:53] slangasek: can't find it in the logs [14:54] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vorlon/kubuntu-recommends-diff [14:55] Riddell: so one upload will apparently take out... 156MB or something :) [14:56] hmm, lots of kde 3 stuff in there too which shouldn't be [14:59] zul: so do you have an opinion on including samba 3.2 in intrepid still? [15:02] slangasek: mathiaz and I were discussing it and we think it would be a good idea [15:02] slangasek: I think that's the way to go [15:02] ok [15:02] good :-) [15:02] slangasek: are you planning to upload 3.2 to unstable ? [15:03] slangasek: otherwise we'd have to pull it from experimental [15:03] mathiaz: yes, next week or so I think [15:03] you'll want -3, -2 isn't ready yet [15:04] slangasek: if you plan to upload to unstable, then we can wait until 3.2 reaches unstable [15:04] * slangasek nods [15:04] cool, are we going to put all of those ubuntu patches back (ie the modifications to smb.conf) [15:04] pull them back? [15:04] I hope you're going to do a standard merge :) [15:04] zul: well - it will be a standard merge [15:04] mathiaz: ok thats what I thought [15:07] slangasek: 3.0.31 ftbfs on goetz because of an unclean chroot fwiw, in case you haven't noticed [15:12] cjwatson: I'm having trouble with germinate on hardy, I understand you're the one to talk to. I created a new package in ubuntu-meta (based on ubuntu-desktop) that pulls from 2 custom seeds I have in bzr. I have a custom version # for ubuntu-meta (e.g. 1.102foo1). [15:12] pitti: thanks [15:13] cjwatson: when I run the update script in ubuntu-meta, it updates my new seed properly but doesn't update the changelog - it thinks there are no changes, even though germinate properly regenerates things from my updated seeds. [15:14] jcristau: ah, thanks; I hadn't looked too closely, still assumed it was a buildd catch-up issue [15:15] gar, kdelibs4-dev again? [15:15] Perhaps I should revisit that build-conflicts, anyway [15:17] update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so: No such file or directory [15:17] Has anyone seen that? [15:29] StevenK: not since about a month before the hardy release when it was fixed? [15:29] benc: /etc/kernel/prerm.d/last-good-boot from my patch made it into the package, but it requires the change to /usr/sbin/kernel-helper which doesn’t seem to have been applied. [15:30] calc: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-gm-scripts [15:30] slangasek: It's showing up in intrepid, which makes me curious ... [15:30] calc: there is a bzr branch you can check out, which has a README explaining the scripts and how to install them [15:30] bryce_: thanks! [15:31] anyone know if these 'lzma decoder' errors that people report are just due to bad downloads or something else? [15:32] slangasek: So, more information, please? :-) [15:33] StevenK: the problem is simply that the package creating the alternative has failed to arrange to create the target directory first [15:33] StevenK: nothing more to it than that [15:35] slangasek: Ahh, so I need to sprinkle in mkdir -p ? [15:36] StevenK: you need to ship the directories in the package... [15:37] slangasek: Right, so iz a icedtea-gcjwebplugin bug [15:50] bryce_: oh yea are the greasemonkey scripts still broken with the new pages? [15:51] bryce_: i tried using them but they don't seem to work [16:23] bryce: kcmshell4 display [16:32] Riddell: thanks [16:34] calc: btw you may want to edit the karma-suffix gm script to add teams you care about (the list is about mid-way down the script) [16:35] calc, also all the scripts should work. If you find any issues (or make any enhancements), let us know. [16:41] bryce_: i found out the cp instructions apparently don't work [16:42] bryce_: and it also doesn't work if you have adblock plus unless you disable it on the lp servers [16:42] oh and you have to have ABP disabled to install the scripts as well [16:44] slangasek: I don't think icedtea-gcjwebplugin did this in Hardy. So I need to do it for the update-alternatives in Intrepid? [16:44] StevenK: it's not an update-alternatives change. [16:45] calc: thanks, I'll update the docs [16:45] StevenK: update-alternatives has TTBOMK always expected the calling package to take care that the target directory exists first [16:46] slangasek: I'm working on cn=config upgrade - do you think this should be done in the preinst or the postinst ? [16:46] mathiaz: postinst [16:59] * calc loves the greasemonkey scripts :) [17:29] Funny, aptitude wanted to remove aptitude, since it was removed from ubuntu-minimal’s dependencies. [17:29] pitti: Was that intentional? [17:39] Riddell: casper> please go ahead [17:39] smagoun: germinate> could I have a pointer to the bzr branches in question and a pointer to your existing ubuntu-meta package (i.e. a reproduction recipe) together with a dump of the output you're getting, please? === dpm_ is now known as dpm [17:57] smagoun, the old "lists" of packages need to be present in the directory for it to determine what's changed [17:58] so if you were just using the bzr branch of ubuntu-meta to get started, those likely wouldn't be there [17:58] you'd need to copy them from the latest "release" of ubuntu-meta i believe [18:17] mario_limonciell: yeah, though he said he already had a custom version so I was assuming this was on top of that [18:18] plus, I think germinate-update-metapackage's response to that situation would be to claim that everything was added, wouldn't it? [18:18] oh, no, I'm mistaken on that one [18:18] so yeah, could be something like that [18:19] yeah at least i remembered running into that way back when when first dealing with creating a meta based off ubuntu-meta [18:32] Are these two actually bugs, or me not knowing what I'm doing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-build [18:39] slangasek: IIUC all of the code related to ldbm->bdb migration in slapd can be dropped. [18:39] oh, we were carrying that around just for the hardy release, weren't we \o/ [18:40] slangasek: oh - ok - I wasn't sure about htat [18:40] slangasek: if that was for hardy - then yes [18:40] slangasek: that will simplify a lot ! [18:40] yes, I think if you look back at the svn history, Russ already removed it once and I asked to re-add it for hardy's benefit (dapper upgrades) [18:41] slangasek: great - that means we don't need to dump any database [18:41] slangasek: should the code be kept around ? [18:41] mathiaz: no, that's what VCS history is for :-) [18:41] oh, well - [18:41] if you mean the code to *do* a database dump and reload, yes it should [18:41] since that applies every time we have to deal with a bdb upgrade or a backend change [18:42] Can I request here a sync to be processed that has been pending for almost a week now? Or should I leave it as it is? [18:42] slangasek: ok - I'll keep the code around then - it won't be used the maintainer script though. [18:42] right === mcasadevall__ is now known as NCommander [18:54] benc: Hi. Did you notice my message? [18:55] ion_: Yeah, can you send me a diff? [18:56] benc: A new one? [18:57] ion_: yeah, against the current tree if you don't mind [18:58] benc: Will do, a moment. [18:59] ion_: thanks [19:01] Can someone please process a sync bug - bug #247712 [19:01] Launchpad bug 247712 in statcvs "Please sync statcvs 1:0.4.0.dfsg-2 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247712 [19:10] slytherin: as there is currently a developer sprint, I guess sync request make take some time to get processed [19:10] geser: Oh, ok === mterry__ is now known as mterry === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz [20:20] cjwatson: germinate> thanks for your help. I sent you mail with links to the (private for now) seeds and ubuntu-meta source === mcasadevall_ is now known as NCommander [21:16] smagoun, were you able to come up with a more optimal solution? [21:25] cody-somerville: nope, not yet === gaurdro_ is now known as gaurdro === geser_ is now known as geser === gaurdro_ is now known as gaurdro [23:00] so i'm sorry in advance for this question, I just got a new computer and went to compile an app when I remembered that there is a package I need to be able to compile and I forgot the name of the package. [23:01] can anyone help me [23:04] vbman11: perhaps you're thinking of build-essential ? [23:04] yes!!! [23:04] thats it [23:04] thanks! [23:04] vbman11: no problem [23:05] wow I feel stupid [23:07] that should come pre installed [23:07] Not all users want to build stuff [23:07] not all have to [23:08] It's not like it's a huge package [23:08] w/ all of it's dependencys [23:08] It is, actually. [23:09] how big [23:09] I didn't really look [23:09] It didn't look that big when I glanced at the numbers [23:10] I can't remember if it's on the CDs or not [23:10] but if it isn't then that would defiantly be why [23:11] ok [23:11] even 1MB counts when the CD is oversized :-) [23:11]