/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/17/#ubuntu-ops.txt

BactaHi, may I have my ban removed?00:12
PriceChildAHEM!! The IRC Council will be meeting Saturday 19th at 22utc in #ubuntu-meeting.00:14
BactaWill they decide on my ban then?00:14
Jack_Sparrow<Bacta> When will Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey be released?00:14
Bactaoh http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/info/6s1p7/comments/00:15
Jack_SparrowBacta You must have known that was not true00:16
Bactayeah :(00:17
Bactabut you must always have hope00:17
=== PriceChild changed the topic of #ubuntu-ops to: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion etc. to #ubuntu-irc | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Next Council meeting: sat 22utc
BactaI won't do it again00:17
MyrttiPriceChild: are you out of your mind? >__<00:18
PriceChildMyrtti: wanted to get one asap for a while... i can't do anything weekday which is compatible with elky.00:19
Myrttiok.00:19
MyrttiPriceChild: I'll pack my Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™ just for you.00:19
PriceChild:)00:19
PriceChildI'm sure I'll survive with a few hours less socialising on the sat00:20
Myrttiyou?00:20
Bactaso can I have my ban removed?00:20
Myrttiand you think people like me, ompaul, Mez, etc wouldn't want to attend this meeting?00:20
Myrttihmph00:21
Myrttioh well.00:21
PriceChildMyrtti: hopefully there won't be much, it will be kept short and we'll get another meeting soon after.00:23
Myrttihope so...00:23
PriceChildyeah its not ideal, yeah its far from ideal, but its at least a meeting00:24
Bactacan someone please look at my ban in #ubuntu?00:25
BactaI've got some questions to ask about ALSA and it's quite hard when you don't have access to the chan00:25
PriceChildI've got to run now. *tacklehugs Myrtti on the way out*00:25
Myrttieeeeeep00:26
MyrttiJack_Sparrow: ^00:26
Jack_SparrowIm in pm with him00:26
Jack_SparrowHe insists he just read the coc, but cant seem to find a link he used00:27
Myrttithanks00:29
MyrttiI think it's time for me to give up for today, no matter how much I want to clean up this place00:30
Myrttigaia alone knows when I'll sleep next time00:35
Jack_SparrowMyrtti I could send you a picture of my office.. that would make you feel better00:36
MyrttiJack_Sparrow: because it's a mess or because it's pink or because it's filled with stuffed penguins and polarbears and guinea pigs=00:37
ubottuStarnestommy called the ops in #ubuntu (HarpyFiend)03:03
ubottuHarpyFiend called the ops in #ubuntu (Starnestommy)03:03
nhainesI have a quick question.  Who is in charge of irclogs.ubuntu.com?03:05
mneptoknhaines: Canonical IS. something you need?03:06
nhainesYes, I would like a hostname in a specific log redacted, but I would like to talk about it privately with someone.03:06
naliothnhaines: i'm not sure they're gonna go for that03:08
nhainesnalioth: I wouldn't blame them, nevertheless it is very important.03:08
mneptoknhaines: i can say unequivocally that that will not happen03:09
nhainesI understand, but I still need to speak with someone and try.03:09
mneptoknhaines: you just did. :)03:09
mneptoknhaines: there is *no* way i would bring this to elmo. he'd kill me.03:10
mneptok(he's really itching for a better excuse. i won't give him one.) ;)03:10
nhaineshaha  ;)03:10
mneptoknhaines: i've seen the IS request ticket queue. getting an IRC logfile edited will not happen before the sun goes red giant.03:11
nhainesWell, thank you for your time.  I don't wish to keep any of you.  :)03:17
nhainesGood night!03:17
naliothi wonder if he was irc'g from the Playboy Mansion or something?03:19
naliothruin the reps of good nerds everywhere, that would03:19
nickrudof course I volunteer to work on the saturday that hell will freeze over04:17
nickrud;)04:18
Flannelnickrud: Eh?04:21
nickrudthe irc council meeting04:21
nickrudI thought hell would freeze over first ;)04:22
FlannelWhen's that?04:22
* Flannel checks wiki, like a smart person.04:22
nickrud3pm our time04:23
* Hobbsee is surprised it's not on the mailing list04:23
nickrudFlannel you have one more web page to keep track of, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/*/*/%23ubuntu-ops.html04:24
Flannelnickrud: I can just read buffers, but I didn't see it this morning.  Read... most of July from the logs.  and the ML since April04:25
nickrudFlannel heh. I did the same when I started. Due diligence and all that ;)04:26
FlannelSo, IRC council is scheduled, but no agenda, eh?04:26
Flannelor rather, no topics on said agenda04:26
mneptokheya Flannel04:29
FlannelHowdy mneptok04:29
Hobbseemneptok!04:29
mneptokHobbsee!04:30
* mneptok spews rum and pennies all over the channel04:30
* Hobbsee throws her bricked phone at mneptok04:30
* Flannel wonders why mneptok was drinking pennies.04:31
mneptokHobbsee: i found the successor to The Pointy Stick Of DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!one!!!!04:31
mneptokHobbsee: http://noquarters.blogspot.com/2005/04/barbie-has-attitude-now-you-might.html04:31
mneptokjust for you, behbeh04:31
Hobbseemneptok: haha.04:32
Hobbseemneptok: you wish04:32
nickrudFlannel that must have been dreary, reading all those logs in one sitting04:34
Flannelnickrud: Eh, wasn't too bad.  One benefit of wgetting them all is I got to grep myself, and see all the nasty things you all have been saying about me since Hoary04:36
nickrud:) I learned my lesson in the 80's, and thankfully all those boards are defunct, and the 8" floppies are probably corrupt by now04:37
Flannelnickrud: well, I was never a trouble maker, so that wasn't the problem.  Some of you were just jealous of my dashing good looks.04:39
Jack_SparrowThems fighting words04:39
FlannelJack_Sparrow: be my guest!  fight nickrud all you like!04:40
* nickrud thinks anyone who wears flannel in socal has some sartorial issues that would overwhelm any personal appearance04:40
mneptoknickrud: not to mention living in SoCal04:40
Jack_Sparrownickrud  IS he a west coaster too..04:40
nickrudJack_Sparrow yeah, I know. Closer to me than you are, I think. One more reason for you to come north for a drink04:41
Jack_SparrowI better hide my duster and my cowboy hat04:41
naliothFlannel: you live on the Left Coast?04:41
Jack_Sparrownickrud Start our own revolution'04:41
Flannelnalioth: San Diego. So, depending on which definition of L/R...04:42
nickrudJack_Sparrow wore that out in my teens and twenties. Now I just laugh at the whippersnapper optimists04:42
* nalioth withholds comments on Left Coasters04:42
nickrudMaybe I'll hop the train south before the end of summer. Not about to drive it04:43
* mneptok misses the wesside04:45
Jack_Sparrownickrud If I go for a ride.. they are essential04:46
Jack_Sparrownickrud Ah.. the coaster04:47
nickrudJack_Sparrow yeah. I've used it a few times northward, it's pleasant04:47
Jack_Sparrownickrud Maybe I should grab my bullet proof vest and make a run up to LA04:48
nickrudJack_Sparrow I live on the westside, it's nothing like downtown San Diego04:48
FlannelNever a reason (other than LoCo) to go to LA.04:48
FlannelJack_Sparrow: where are you, if you're going up to LA?04:49
Jack_Sparrownickrud south east is where it is more like your south central04:49
Jack_SparrowSan Diego04:49
FlannelJack_Sparrow: Whereabouts?04:49
Jack_SparrowEast COunty04:49
nickrudJack_Sparrow downtown must have improved since I was there in the Navy in the 70's04:49
Flannelnickrud: very much.04:49
Jack_Sparrownickrud yep, they really cleaned it up.04:49
Jack_Sparrowthey did a whole downtown renovation thing04:50
Flannelhooray for city planning04:50
Jack_SparrowFlannel where were you living down here04:50
* nalioth delivered to all the nice parts of LA County when he drove big rigs04:50
nickrudIf you want to see where I grew up, get a copy of The Last Detail , they spent a lot of time on first street in seattle04:50
Jack_Sparrownalioth ouch04:50
mneptoknalioth: so you never made it to LA?04:50
FlannelJack_Sparrow: I live up in Vista, but I go to school at SDSU, so I'm all over all the time.04:50
mneptokFlannel: Chula Vista?04:51
Jack_Sparrownickrud I have two properties over in /near Shelton04:51
Flannelmneptok: No, just regular Vista04:51
mneptok*nod*04:51
naliothmneptok: i drove my great huge truck through downtown LA more than once04:51
Flannelmneptok: If you haven't heard of it: oceanside is good enough04:51
mneptoknalioth: oh, the "nice parts" confused me ;)04:51
Jack_SparrowEast oceanside04:51
FlannelVistaside04:51
Jack_Sparrow:)04:51
Jack_SparrowHow close to Costco04:51
nickrudJack_Sparrow ah, the olympics foothills?04:51
* Flannel is used to "oceanside" since even in San Diego, no one knows where Vista is.04:52
Jack_Sparrownickrud yep, I love it up there04:52
naliothmneptok: Compton, Watts, and other nice parts were more often visited04:52
FlannelJack_Sparrow: Which Costco?  78 or Palomar Airport?04:52
Jack_Sparrowthe one closest to 16304:52
mneptoknalioth: i'm gonna start calling you "Reginald Denny"04:52
naliothwhy?  i've never been entertained by the locals04:53
Jack_Sparrownickrud I have a whole city block in Shelton.. I bought it 15 years ago for next to nothing..  single rental on it04:53
FlannelJack_Sparrow: er... 163?  That'd be... hmm, no.  52 is now a cox... thing. Where is there a costco on 163 now?04:53
* nickrud walks in south central. Carefully, I admit, but mostly it's fine04:53
Jack_Sparrow163 to 5something west to first exit04:54
* Hobbsee wishes it were possible to say "please DDOS so and so", and people would do it.04:54
nickrudHobbsee get on freenode staff04:54
FlannelJack_Sparrow: you mean the one by the stadium?04:55
Jack_SparrowFlannel no, 56? that goes from 163 to oceanside04:56
Jack_SparrowFlannel I always confuse that with 52 in Lakeside04:57
Flannel56 doesn't go from 163 to Oceanside.  56 is the new E/W one that goes between 5 and 15 in poway.  56 is a few (10?) miles north of 52.04:57
FlannelYou mean 15?04:57
Flannel163 turns into 15 going north (going south,it turns into downtown)04:57
Jack_Sparrow163 = 15 = 39504:57
* Hobbsee tries the other route04:58
Flannel395 eh?04:58
Jack_SparrowPick a number and stick with it04:58
Jack_SparrowFlannel When I used to go north it was 2 lanes and only a one lane bridge across the lake04:58
FlannelYeah, yeah.  I know 395.  Just hasn't been called that in... well, it still is, it's just "Old Highway 395"04:59
Jack_SparrowBorn and raised here04:59
Jack_SparrowI can get to Vista in about 30 minutes05:00
Jack_Sparrowother than rush hour05:00
Jack_Sparrowthen 2 hours05:00
FlannelFrom east county?  More like 40.  Its 37 miles to SDSU05:00
Jack_SparrowI can make gopher canyon rd in 42 min05:01
FlannelYeah, thats staying on 15 though.  78 is a mess.  And the sprinter isn't helping (because it won't, because theyre stupid)05:01
Jack_SparrowSprinter, submarine..05:02
* nickrud wonders if they realize just how boring it is, listening to local traffic info ;)05:02
Jack_SparrowByte this05:02
Jack_SparrowJust trying to welcome in the new guy05:02
nickrudI am no respecter of persons, Flannel already knows that I thik05:03
Flannelnickrud: We could give you the weather forecast next: "Morning low clouds, burning off by midday, fog on the coast in the evening"05:03
* Flannel is going to have to convince Jack_Sparrow to partake in some LoCo events in the future.05:04
Jack_SparrowHeck, that isnt fair, it never changes05:04
nickrudheh. I live about 2 miles from the beach, it's loverly05:04
FlannelJack_Sparrow: Well, if you memorize it, you don't need a weatherman.05:04
FlannelJack_Sparrow: which is why John Coleman is the way he is.  No one needs a weatherman in SD.05:04
Jack_Sparrow:)05:04
Flannelnickrud: There, happy?  we've moved on to local television weathermen05:05
Jack_SparrowThe old guy in the bow tie.. remember him05:05
Jack_SparrowBob Dale05:05
nickrudYep. Now I can sleep peacefully, knowing I've distracted you two from that black hole ;)05:05
Jack_SparrowFlannel LEt me know when there is an event and I will see if I can make it05:11
gnomefreakdoes anyone need to be removed? i would love to test this script that has been updated05:14
* nickrud is willing to be a guinea pig05:14
gnomefreaknickrud: you will let me remove you?05:15
nickrudsure, just remove the removal, please ;)05:15
Jack_Sparrowsure me too if you need a hampster05:16
gnomefreakim not banning you will beable to rejoin right away05:16
gnomefreakok ready?05:17
nickrudgo05:17
Jack_SparrowZiggy, zuggy, ziggy, zuggy oy oy oy05:18
gnomefreakcrap05:18
Jack_Sparrowawww05:18
gnomefreakit doesnt work05:18
gnomefreaki guess i can fix it05:18
nickrudI'm just impervious, try jack05:18
* nickrud considers flying out to texas, just to slap nalioth with a frozen fish05:21
naliothmight as well do it with a 2x405:21
nickrudthat makes 2 kicks in my irc lifetime ;)05:21
naliothyou weren't kicked05:21
Jack_Sparrow:)05:22
nickrudI'm terminally irc challenged, don't expect me to know what's what ;)05:22
gnomefreakwhy does the script not use color its just while while the rest are greenish05:23
naliothwhat script?05:23
Jack_Sparrowwhat client05:24
gnomefreakauto_sev_bleh.pl      autorun       away_hilight_notice.pl  nm.pl05:24
Jack_Sparrowirissi05:24
gnomefreakirssi and the updated auto_sev_bleh05:24
Flannelgnomefreak: links vs regular file05:24
Flannelgnomefreak: ls -l05:24
gnomefreaki think i found it thanks Flannel now i just have to change permiissions05:25
naliothgnomefreak: you need to read this:05:25
Flannelgnomefreak: Why are you changing permissions?05:25
naliothWant to see if someone is identified to services at a glance?  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spoofing gnomefreak05:25
gnomefreaknalioth: -rw-r--r-- 1 gnomefreak gnomefreak 17990 Jul 17 00:22 auto_sev_bleh.pl05:26
Flannelgnomefreak: that should be fine.  Have you loaded it in irssi?05:27
gnomefreakdrwx and rwx05:27
gnomefreakare the rest05:27
FlannelThey don't need to be.  All mine are 64405:27
gnomefreakFlannel: it is in autorun05:27
gnomefreaknalioth: oh that sounds like a good script05:28
naliothgnomefreak: auto_sev_bleh is a channel management script.  the capab-identify script is differnet05:28
gnomefreaknalioth: i know05:28
gnomefreakonce i get auto_sev done i will work on the one you posted05:28
gnomefreaki guess i can fix this i hope but we will find out if it works05:29
naliothgnomefreak: you're missing hte point05:31
nalioththe capab-identify script will color your nicks ( any other coloring script will interfere with it )05:31
gnomefreakyou mean the script that freenode is running will affect nick colors?05:32
gnomefreakbrb i need to restart client05:33
naliothgnomefreak: no, the script that YOU will run that interfaces with the signals the ircd sends you will05:33
gnomefreakit shouldnt affect the auto_sev_bleh05:35
naliothno05:36
gnomefreakikonia: if you are still around, the updated auto_sev_bleh i got from you doesnt work for some reason05:48
gnomefreakFlannel: what was the command you gave me again?05:51
Flannelgnomefreak: ls -l?05:53
gnomefreakthats what i thought :(05:53
gnomefreakoops i used la -l :(05:53
Flannelgnomefreak: to load it... /script load auto_sev_bleh05:54
Flannel.pl, but after auto just tab complete it05:54
gnomefreak00:49 -!- Irssi: Loaded script auto_sev_bleh05:54
gnomefreak00:49 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: ar05:54
FlannelThat'd be an error05:55
naliothgnomefreak: want one that does work?05:55
gnomefreaki have the old one05:55
Flannelhttp://www.debcenter.org/data/auto_bleh/ is the one I've got05:56
gnomefreakthis one has new features05:56
Flannelthe... -2008-02-13 one05:56
Flannelgnomefreak: Which features?05:56
naliothgnomefreak: so use the old one05:56
naliothFlannel: they're always cooking something up in #autobleh05:56
gnomefreakuto_bleh.pl,v 1.2.1 2008/01/2405:56
Hobbsee!ping05:57
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore05:57
Flannelnalioth: that channel was empty when I joined yesterday.  Ended up grepping these channel logs, and then going to #no0tic or whatnot, which the link in the title was timing out.  So uncle google saved me05:57
gnomefreakah yours is newer and has same options05:57
naliothmine works.05:58
gnomefreakits still white :(06:00
gnomefreakwhere was the original auto_sev_bleh at? it wasnt at irssi.org/scripts06:14
* elkbuntu is home from work with an ear infection. :(06:17
gnomefreakelkbuntu: sorry to hear that06:17
elkbuntunow the real reason i speak: yobo2 wants his ban for versioning the floodbot to be lifted06:18
elkbuntui didnt respond, i have no intentions of arguing with a fool while my ear hurts06:18
gnomefreakelkbuntu: so you send him to me?06:21
yobo2Hi, I appear to have been banned from #ubuntu for sending a CTCP version command to the flood bot. Can that ban be lifted please?06:23
Bodsdahello, i was just wondering why !ot no longer tells the person that they are being off topic, can something along those lines be added back to the factoid please. !ot seems to be just an ubuntu channel list now06:24
Amaranth!ot06:24
ubottuAnd the magical fairies came in and stole the crown from underneath the apple tree...06:24
Amaranth*boggle*06:24
Bodsdahah, this is the current !ot factoid -- <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:25
Amaranthanyway, i gotta go06:26
Amaranthhope someone can help you guys06:26
Bodsdagoodbye06:26
elkbuntuwhoever set the !ot for here must either have been mneptok or someone sampling mneptok's wares06:27
Bodsdaits different in different channels?06:27
elkbuntuthey can be06:27
Bodsdaelkbuntu, can you edit the #ubuntu !ot command please?06:28
naliothBodsda: it is.06:28
gnomefreak!find ot06:28
ubottuFound: adept-notifier, autotools-dev, bluetooth, bootchart, chkrootkit (and 582 others)06:28
gnomefreakdamn06:28
Bodsdajust out of interest, how can i ask ubottu to display the 582 other packages?06:29
Amaranthok, i guess i have a couple more minutes06:31
Amaranthyobo2: you're in #ubuntu right now06:31
Amarantherr, stupid OS X chat client06:31
Amaranthit says you are :/06:31
Amaranth@btlogin06:31
BodsdaAmaranth, my client (xchat) says that he is not06:32
yobo2Amaranth, It set +b but did not kick. I just left the channel a few minutes ago, though.06:32
Amaranthyobo2: did you VERSION the whole channel?06:33
yobo2Amaranth, yes.06:33
Amaranthyobo2: why?06:33
yobo2Amaranth, I was collecting stats. Just curious.06:33
yobo2I checked the guidelines before doing it.06:33
AmaranthKind of violates "Be considerate" and "Be respectful"06:34
naliothyobo2: ctcp'g an entire channel is rude.06:34
AmaranthAnd the common sense "Don't be an asshole"06:35
naliothno 'ifs, ands or buts' about it06:35
yobo2I don't know; each user only saw a single CTCP version. IMHO that's not inconsiderate, disrespectful, or rude...06:35
yobo2Now maybe if I had done it to everybody twice in a row.06:35
yobo2It's not like I went in insulting people's mothers.06:36
AmaranthI'd say come back tomorrow06:36
yobo2That's fine. Can you update your guidelines to be a little clearer, though? I bet not a single one of you even noticed you were version'd.06:36
* Flannel wasn't versioned.06:37
BodsdaCan i talk to someone about a certain persons behaviour in #ubuntu - id prefer a pm if thats ok06:38
AmaranthBodsda: It would be better to discuss it here06:39
gnomefreakhmmmmm wasnt versioned either06:39
gnomefreaknot like we can miss that06:39
AmaranthI think he failed at versioning everyone but managed to trigger the bot06:39
Flannelwooo me.06:40
gnomefreakhe might have versioned channel and we all kno bots are faster than us06:41
Bodsdaok, first off, i dont actually have a log of this person being rude but i know people who will confirm what i say. (bazhang has seen it many a time) wols / wols_ is persistently rude and obnoxious to users who dont fully understand him, while his advice is good and always correct, today i felt inclined to apologise to somebody for his behaviour06:41
gnomefreakso bot caught it before it hit anyone06:41
gnomefreaki can confirm that as well06:41
AmaranthYes, I've seen that06:42
gnomefreakBodsda: what is it you would like to see happen06:42
AmaranthNever enough to ban him though06:42
gnomefreakor are you just letting us know06:42
gnomefreakAmaranth: once or twice from what i saw06:42
Bodsdagnomefreak, i would like an official warning. he may not be comitting a ban'able offense, he is still not following the rules. Continuation of his behaviour after a warning (i believe) should result in a time ban06:43
Bodsdaa few days or something06:43
Hobbseewols is causing trouble *again*?06:44
Bodsdanot at this present time, but today 'again' yes06:44
Bodsdagnomefreak, or am i being a bit over the top?06:46
Bodsdahas anyone looked into the factoid?06:52
gnomefreakBodsda: when we see it we will warn him if that doesnt work than we can go to next level but normally he stops atleast for a little while. Ive only had him fight meafter a warn06:53
gnomefreakonce06:53
Bodsdagnomefreak, thank you. I don't mean to be rude but if you'v warned him before and he has gone back to his rude behaviour, why will another warning help? or is 2 warnings the norm for this type of behaviour?06:55
gnomefreakis it really that hard to addd a help section on top of the script to say what commands do what :(06:56
Flannelgnomefreak: Which script?06:57
gnomefreakBodsda: we cant do anything after a certain period of time normally when it happens06:57
gnomefreakFlannel: scriptassist.pl06:57
gnomefreakit updates your scripts fo ryou06:57
gnomefreakfor you06:57
Bodsdagnomefreak, so rude behaviour followed by a small section of good behaviour means you cant do anything? seems like a bad loop hole in the rules if you ask me06:58
Flannelgnomefreak: /scriptassst help06:59
Flanneler, except spell assist correctly06:59
gnomefreakBodsda: depends on what he does after the warning and if it become habit daily or so than we can do something06:59
gnomefreak;)06:59
Bodsdagnomefreak, it is a habit whenever someone replies with 'i dont quite understand'07:00
gnomefreakFlannel: cant it wont load07:00
HobbseeBodsda: the guy did get a holiday for a while, btw.07:00
Flannelgnomefreak: Alright, scroll down a page or two here, you'll see the contents of it: http://scripts.irssi.org/html/scriptassist.pl.html07:01
BodsdaHobbsee, sorry?07:01
Hobbseehe did get a ban for a while07:01
gnomefreakyeah i clicked help but that really failed to help07:01
BodsdaHobbsee, oh, for the same offence?07:01
gnomefreakscript load '.$script07:02
gnomefreakoops07:02
Hobbseei think so07:02
Bodsdait just seems odd that there's no repercussions for persistent bad behaviour, even after a ban07:02
gnomefreak/usr/lib/irssi/modules/libload_script.so: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory07:02
Flannelgnomefreak: not /load but /script load [file]07:03
gnomefreakthats what i get on trying to load so i would say its borked07:03
Flannel /load tries to load modules (.so) not scripts07:04
gnomefreakFlannel: thanks that worked07:04
Bodsdaanyway, can anyone help with the !ot factoid in #ubuntu ?07:04
gnomefreak\&cmd_scripassist07:05
gnomefreakdamn07:05
FlannelBodsda: What do you think a better wording would be?07:06
Bodsda!ot no longer tells the person that they are being off topic, can something along those lines be added back to the factoid please. !ot seems to be just an ubuntu channel list now07:06
ubottuBodsda: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:06
gnomefreak!ot07:07
ubottuAnd the magical fairies came in and stole the crown from underneath the apple tree...07:07
gnomefreaklol07:07
Flannel!ot-#ubuntu07:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ot-#ubuntu07:07
Bodsdahis is the current !ot factoid -- <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:07
Bodsdathis*07:07
Flannelaww07:07
gnomefreak!offtopic07:07
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:07
Flannel!#ubuntu-ot07:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ot07:07
* Flannel randomly tries stuff.07:07
gnomefreakFlannel: #ubuntu is default07:07
Flannelgnomefreak: Its just the alias thats different here.  I see.07:07
Bodsdai dont think the factoid tells the recipient that they are offtopic, it merely tells them about 3 channels07:08
FlannelBodsda: Personally, I just type it out to the people.07:08
gnomefreak!offtopicforofftopic07:08
ubottugnomefreak: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:08
gnomefreakwhat is that factoid :(07:09
FlannelBodsda: I think it was changed and assumed people would be intelligent enough to put two and two together.07:09
Flannel!o4o07:09
ubottuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flame wars: war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, questionably legal activities, suicide are not for here. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy)07:09
gnomefreak!otforot07:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about otforot07:09
gnomefreakah07:09
BodsdaFlannel, yeah, but im lazy ;~) and often forget the factoids been changed, then people ask me why i told them about -offtopic & +107:09
gnomefreakBodsda: does that work07:09
Flannelgnomefreak: that's not what he's talking about07:09
Bodsdagnomefreak, does what work?07:09
gnomefreakshould we link the !ot to o4o?07:09
Flannelgnomefreak: no.07:09
gnomefreakoh07:09
Flannelgnomefreak: He's talking about "!offtopic" being a "here's a list of channels!" instead of "hey07:10
Flannel"hey! you're being offtopic"07:10
Bodsdayes07:10
Bodsdasorry, also theres is one other factoid ive noticed could do with a change, the !nickspam needs to be shortened, perhaps by making a seperate factoid for noisyAway07:12
* Bodsda waits patiently for signs of life07:17
FlannelBodsda: I agree.07:18
BodsdaFlannel, what with?07:18
Bodsdanickspam?07:19
Flannelwell, both.  The latter is easy to fix.  former requires new text, suggestion?07:19
FlannelAlthough the former is less of an issue.07:19
gnomefreak!nickspam07:20
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu-ops - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubottu Guidelines07:20
gnomefreakhmmm07:20
gnomefreak!away07:20
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»07:21
Flannelgnomefreak: easy to just remove the away bit07:21
FlannelOh, theyre linked?  that explains it.07:21
gnomefreakeasy if you know sed07:21
Flannelgnomefreak: PCRE++07:21
* gnomefreak shakey on sed07:21
Bodsda#ubuntu is the support channel, off topic chatter should be reserved for #ubuntu-offtopic . Please only post in this channel if you have a support question or if you are giving support to someone.07:21
Flannelgnomefreak: Could always just copy/paste07:21
gnomefreakFlannel: normally i do but if we remove it we have to have  another for !away07:22
FlannelBodsda: The last sentence is a bit authoritarian.07:22
gnomefreakor the parts removed07:22
Flanneldoesn't sound like a bad idea.07:22
FlannelThey're separate issues, even if the cause is technically the same07:23
BodsdaFlannel, agreed, hhmm,.,. perhaps    Please try and keep posts related to support questions/answers07:23
gnomefreakFlannel: ar eyou an editor?07:24
Bodsdamy problem with !nick spam is the part "it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users" when actually the factoid causes more scrolling then nic changes07:24
gnomefreakfor bot07:24
FlannelBodsda: Well, if you think of a better one, just recommend it via ubotu.  For now ot can't hurt.07:24
gnomefreakif not let me know what to remove and i will07:25
Flannelgnomefreak: I am, remember earlier?07:25
gnomefreakno :(07:25
gnomefreak@whoami07:25
ubottugnomefreak: I don't recognize you.07:25
BodsdaFlannel, how do i suggest something to ubotu?07:25
gnomefreakok can we get bot to use hostmasks to reconize editors07:25
Bodsdas/suggest/recommend07:25
gnomefreak@login07:26
FlannelBodsda: something is something.  Do it in a query and it'll get forwarded here.07:26
ubottugnomefreak: The operation succeeded.07:26
Flannelgnomefreak: supybot can recognize based on hosts07:26
gnomefreakbut its not07:26
* Flannel assumed it was.07:26
gnomefreakand its not supy is it?07:26
ubottuIn ubottu, Bodsda said: !ot is #ubuntu is the support channel, off topic chatter should be reserved for #ubuntu-offtopic -- Please try and keep posts related to support questions/answers07:26
Flannelgnomefreak: it is07:27
gnomefreakif it was using hosts that it would log you in automaticly07:27
Flannelgnomefreak: I don't know if you can add your own host or not07:27
FlannelI mean, you can with supybot, not sure if ubotu is modified in that regard07:27
ubottuIn ubottu, Bodsda said: !nickspam is You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)07:28
FlannelBodsda: don't worry about the nickspam stuff, I'll take care of it.07:28
gnomefreakFlannel: inly the owner can. but like ubotu would always recognize you unless there was a crash or somethng with ubotu07:28
Flannelgnomefreak: then its just something that needs to be set up07:28
ubottuIn ubottu, Bodsda said: !away is Noisy away messages should not be used, instead use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»07:29
BodsdaFlannel, ok cheers, ok i think im done now ;~) ot nickspam away    thanks guys07:29
Flannelno problem Bodsda07:30
Bodsdabye07:30
gnomefreak!away07:30
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»07:30
gnomefreaknoone changed it07:30
Flannelgnomefreak: not yet07:30
FlannelI'm talking to you.07:30
Bodsdalol07:30
FlannelI'll get to it.  Don't worry.07:30
* jussi01 walks07:30
Bodsdacheers, cya07:30
FlannelI'm not so hot on the offtopic change though.07:30
* gnomefreak got both scripts to run ;)07:30
Flannelgnomefreak: You can poke jussi01 about hostmasks07:31
gnomefreakjuliux: can we get bot set up like ubotu with recognizing editors by hostmasks?07:31
gnomefreakdamn07:31
gnomefreakjussio1: ^^^07:31
jussi01If you want changes to the features of the bot, go find stdin - I can do admin stuff but not changing things like that07:32
* jussi01 's python skills are lacking07:32
gnomefreakjussio1: ok thanks i will when i find him07:32
FlannelIts not something that needs to be changed.  Its just a configuration.  I *think* users can add their own hostmasks07:32
jussi01gnomefreak: hehe, you keep using my alter ego nick :P07:33
Flannelgnomefreak: try this: "hostmask add gnomefreak [hostmask] password"  change password, don't need to change [hostmask]07:34
Flanneloh actually, if youre logged in, you dontneed the password07:34
gnomefreakdid it work for you?07:35
jussi01Flannel: only owner can do that07:35
FlannelI haven't tried it.07:35
Flanneljussi01: You sure?07:35
gnomefreak.me not owner07:35
jussi01which happens tobe me...07:35
gnomefreakjussi01: is owner i thought07:35
jussi01Flannel: try it!07:35
jussi01if it lets you then its broken.07:35
Flannelmine succeeded.07:35
Flannel:P07:36
gnomefreakFlannel: are the [] and "" needed?07:36
FlannelI don't think its an owner thing.  I'm adding a hostmask to my account07:36
jussi01hrm, going to have to have a look at that with stdin07:36
Flannelgnomefreak: the []: hostmask add gnomefreak [hostmask]07:36
gnomefreakwith a @?07:37
Flanneljussi01: hostmask is in the user plugin, not admin or owner, so I think thats how it works07:37
Flannelgnomefreak: What?  just message it to ubottu07:37
Flannelgnomefreak: /msg ubottu hostmask add gnomefreak [hostmask]07:37
Flanneland then disconnect and reconnect, and we'll see.07:37
jussi01If we want to talk about this further, please join #ubuntu-ircbots-team07:37
gnomefreakhostmask add gnomefreak gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak  doesnt work07:40
gnomefreakt says it needs ! and @ and friends07:40
Flannelgnomefreak: join the other channel07:41
gnomefreakFlannel: ok07:41
Myrttimeh07:43
Flannel!away07:51
ubottuYou should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»07:51
Flannel!nickspam07:51
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»07:51
Flannelanyone see any grammar issues?07:52
nickrudI'd change unrequired to excessive, and - should be because07:52
jussi01Flannel: theres no need to have 2 different factoids...07:53
Flanneljussi01: The combined one was getting big07:53
Flanneland I agree, three lines on my screen is more than a facotid should be.07:53
jussi01Flannel: youve been talking to ompaul too much07:53
Flannelbut, feel free to revert.  It actually wasn't linked, oddly enough.  they just had the same text.07:53
nickrudthat's been a long term complaint by others as well07:53
jussi01meh, whatever07:54
Myrttithere used to be two of those07:55
nickrudjussi01 you should see the scrolling when 3 or 4 long ones get triggered successively07:55
jussi01the thing for me is, that factoid 90% of the time should be used with a >07:56
Flanneljussi01: it should, but that doesn't mean everyone does.07:56
gnomefreakhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat needs to be updated atleast the ubotu part08:05
jussi01gnomefreak: yep08:06
jussi01gnomefreak: Ive beenthinking of doinf that for a whuile08:06
gnomefreaki cant believe i cant find a channel to join08:06
gnomefreakhow is the fourms channel?08:08
jussi01gnomefreak: #ubuntu-bots08:08
jussi01gnomefreak: boring...08:08
jussi01gnomefreak: #kubuntu-kde408:08
gnomefreakyeah ive been thinking of that one08:09
jussi01#freenode can be fun at times.... :P08:09
gnomefreakhave it08:09
jussi01#ubuntustudio08:09
Flannelstudio is pretty dead most of the time08:09
jussi01yeah08:09
nickrudthere's always ##politics08:09
jussi01I wish it wasnt and that we had more people08:10
jussi01nickrud: rofl08:10
* gnomefreak leaning towards #bzr #bash #ubuntu-bots at this moment08:10
jussi01gnomefreak: are you looking for a new project to be involved in?08:10
gnomefreaki can join all of them but anything over 20 channels it doesnt identify me automaticly08:10
FlannelWhat?08:10
jussi01Flannel: ubuntu studio is looking for people right now08:11
gnomefreakjussi01: it can be but mostly where i can ask qestions or help people08:11
gnomefreakif i run into python code not workiing i am in #python so i can ask (that is example)08:12
gnomefreakjussi01: to do what?08:12
jussi01gnomefreak: Documentation, artwork and, as always, packagers.08:12
gnomefreakah08:12
Flanneljussi01: right now my time is taken up with LoCo team, and -marketing, a specific marketing project, at that.08:13
MyrttiMEEEEHH.08:13
gnomefreakmines taken up on mozilla team08:13
jussi01Myrtti: meep?08:13
FlannelMyrtti: eh?08:13
Myrttitrying to wake up08:13
gnomefreaki dont think Myrtti sleeps ever08:13
MyrttiI've got a todo as long as my arm08:13
Myrttitrue, I don't08:14
jussi01gnomefreak: yeah, I always used to get hilighted by your potty mouuuh in there :P (so I parted)08:14
Flannelso, whats the best course of action for max in #ubuntu?  Keeps changing his nick back to max (which then gets changed to Guest#####).  Forward him here?  just remove him?08:14
gnomefreak;)08:14
gnomefreakMyrtti: ill trade you to do lists08:14
jussi01Flannel: pm first Id say08:14
Flanneljussi01: yeah, I just thought about that after asking.08:15
jussi01:)08:15
Myrttignomefreak: -fluffy pen -wash dishes -clean bathroom -dvds -ticket -passport -creditcard -guineapigs -trash -flowers -vacuum -wipe the floors -meds -storage room -crochet wip -business cards -clean the cage08:16
FlannelMyrtti: there's a #ubunut-clean-the-cage channel?08:16
Myrttithat's my todo, silly08:16
gnomefreakwe have about the same but 1 of mine is to fix/re-write ~20 wikis08:17
gnomefreakso that counts at 2?08:17
gnomefreak20?08:17
Flannel1 with 20 subpoints!08:18
gnomefreakFlannel: should it be #ubuntu-clean-*08:18
jussi01Myrtti: you need the padded things for the ops fight!08:18
Myrttijussi01: pillows.08:19
Myrttijussi01: and three small bottles of Salmari08:20
jussi01hehe08:20
Myrttiwas actually considering going to buy few more bottles of those cloudberry thingies08:20
Myrttisince I'll obviously not have time to bake those darned cookies08:20
gnomefreakok i think im set be back08:22
bazhangmax has to be a bot08:24
gnomefreakjuywhat was the kde4 channel?08:24
* Flannel plays "how many channels am I in with gnomefreak"08:24
gnomefreakjussio1: what was jde4 channle08:24
bazhanghe has told to change his nick sooo many times.08:24
Flannelbazhang: is he back?08:24
* Myrtti plays "how many channels can I avoid joining"08:24
bazhangFlannel, saw you kick him08:24
Flannelbazhang: yeah, thats why I kicked him.08:24
Flannelbazhang: Doesn't have to be a bot.  Could be some odd my-name-is-max script08:25
bazhangFlannel, good point.08:26
* gnomefreak thinks religion == bad topic08:29
elkbuntuit's a dangerous one08:29
gnomefreakkind of like politics08:29
jussi01gnomefreak: #kubuntu-kde408:29
gnomefreakjussi01: im there i think08:29
gnomefreaki added it to autojoin08:29
jussi01yep, seen08:30
gnomefreaki wish i can autojoin more than 20 with being identified during join08:31
jussi01gnomefreak: are you in #ubuntu-bugs ?08:31
jussi01gnomefreak: go bug nalioth or PriceChild08:31
gnomefreakfor some reason anything over 20 freenode doesnt auto id me08:31
gnomefreakjussi01: yes08:31
gnomefreakjussi01: there isnt anything that can be done08:32
jussi01gnomefreak: you have to have specialnesto be in more than 2008:32
gnomefreaki have +u08:32
jussi01gnomefreak: works perfect for me...08:32
jpdsgnomefreak: Do you identify before joining channels?08:33
gnomefreakbut joining over 20 freenode doesnt identify me so i woul dhav eto /ns identify08:33
jussi01gnomefreak: sounds like a client issue08:33
gnomefreakjpds: yes but can only do it with 20 channel08:33
jpdsgnomefreak: Which client do you use?08:33
gnomefreakjussi01: irssi08:33
gnomefreakits possible08:33
jussi01quassel FTW08:33
jpdsgnomefreak: Add: "wait 2000" to the end of your autosendcmd's08:33
gnomefreakjpds: iirc i have longer than that08:34
Myrtti...08:34
Myrttihm08:34
MyrttiI wonder how many channels I've got08:34
jpdsgnomefreak: Works fine here.08:34
gnomefreakautosendcmd = "/umode +wQ;/quote capab identify-msg;/nicklist screen;wait -freenode 100000";08:35
gnomefreakthats under hatnets = { freenode = { type = "IRC"; };08:36
gnomefreaksection08:36
jpdsgnomefreak: Remove the -freenode. Mine goes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/27941/08:36
Dave2a vast network of hats.08:38
gnomefreakjpds: you dont use +u in the mode nick +iw; section?08:39
jpdsgnomefreak: Nick "bestows the power of +u on" me.08:39
jpdsNickServ*08:39
gnomefreakyes but you dont have it with the +iw(not sure what these are)08:40
gnomefreaki think i use +e +i +u08:40
Dave2you don't need to manually +u yourself08:40
gnomefreakwhat is w?08:41
Dave2receive wallops08:41
gnomefreakah08:41
Dave2http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml08:41
gnomefreakok be right back lets test this08:42
MyrttiI'm going to bomb -ot to kingdom come08:43
FlannelMyrtti: to be honest, the "there could maybe be someone in this channel who might not be comfortable" isn't a realistic litmus test.08:43
gnomefreakjpds: thanks it works :)08:44
jpdsgnomefreak: Glad to hear that. :)08:44
MyrttiFlannel: there is someone on that channel who isn't comfortable with that topic08:44
Myrttithat's me08:44
MyrttiI was eating my breakfast08:44
FlannelMyrtti: We move to the "no one's forcing you to look" argument.  Bring up issues of being condiserate, yadda yadda.08:46
MyrttiFlannel: ... of course I could then play my card of "unfortunately I'm an op and have to look"08:47
nickrudI find most things in there nauseating, but I still look in now and then, like an accident on the freeway08:47
Myrttibut I wont08:47
bazhangin #politics?08:49
FlannelMyrtti: Being an op and "having to look" means while you're looking, you take your personal bias away.  Just because you aren't keen on an otherwise legal conversation/whatever doesn't mean you get to stop it.08:49
Myrttiwell, for what I'm conserned, my and elkeees request of changing the topic worked08:50
FlannelMyrtti: Just because it "worked" doesn't mean it was proper.08:50
MyrttiI dunno08:50
FlannelHaving said that, the conversation had run its ground for the most part.08:51
gnomefreakworks like a charm :) is ~4:00am so maybe ill save the adding of alternate nick in config file08:51
gnomefreak!channels08:52
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines08:52
bazhangchanging nick means losing cloak? ie something other than alternate (bazhang_)08:52
gnomefreaki dont get it08:52
Flannelbazhang: I believe cloaks are associated with the group08:53
MyrttiFlannel: well, I agree. I watched the most of the discussion and didn't mind most of it08:53
bazhangFlannel, thanks :)08:53
gnomefreakbazhang: should id you once it joins (example your network goes out and bazhang is still in channel but not active due to net failure it would join as alternate nick and id on join08:53
bazhanggnomefreak, well that I know (thanks); just wanted to do something like elk-eee for a bit and did not know if that was possible without losing cloak08:54
Flannelbazhang: I believe you'd lose it, yes.  Could always try it.08:55
bazhanghehe08:55
bazhangtoo risky :)08:55
gnomefreakunless registered you would lose it08:55
* bazhang got ddos'd the second day as op08:55
=== Myrtti is now known as myricagale
* myricagale hmmles08:56
myricagalesee?08:56
bazhang:)08:57
gnomefreakmyricagale: you kept clock08:57
gnomefreakcloak08:57
myricagale(that's the scientific name of the plant I picked my nick on ca. 1997)08:57
Flannelgnomefreak: still in the account.08:57
=== myricagale is now known as Myrtti
Myrtti/msg Nickserv help identify ?08:58
MyrttiSyntax: IDENTIFY <nick> <password>08:59
MyrttiHTH :-P08:59
gnomefreakdamn i looked at that way too fast it looked like Myrtti password was password :(08:59
Myrttihm09:00
Myrttitadah.09:00
gnomefreak@whoami09:00
ubottugnomefreak: gnomefreak09:00
gnomefreakgood bot09:00
marmelaati@whoami09:01
ubottumarmelaati: I don't recognize you.09:01
marmelaati@login09:01
ubottumarmelaati: Error: You are not identified09:01
marmelaatiyup09:01
Flannelbut still on the account09:01
Myrttianyway09:01
bazhanghmm used to be you had to add their repos; good thing I gave a notice of being out of touch on that :)09:22
Flannelbazhang: As of Hardy, Myth and studio are official flavors.  Although I don't agree with the non-functioning -desktop package09:22
bazhangFlannel, nice! thanks09:22
bazhangtoday, much like any other day, is 'ubuntu gripes day' :)09:54
=== bazhang is now known as gripey
=== gripey is now known as bazhang
juliuxgnomefreak: ?10:26
gnomefreakjuliux: it was tab error i was meaning jussio110:27
jussi01gnomefreak: or jussi01 maybe? :P10:27
gnomefreakeither or sorry for the ping juliux10:28
juliuxgnomefreak: ah np10:28
juliuxgnomefreak: i was just wondering because we have a own ubuntu-de bot;910:29
Myrttiomg lol now I can be larted for using np. script.10:32
MyrttiI'm so close on flipping out EEEEEPPPP11:04
* Myrtti screams and runs around in circles11:04
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 11:08
MyrttiAHA! First item on todo checked11:08
Tm_Tto get hug from me?11:08
* Tm_T thinks Myrtti has weird todo11:09
MyrttiI've lost my allergy meds11:09
Tm_Touch11:09
* Myrtti finds them, checks another item off the todo11:10
* Myrtti screams more11:36
* Myrtti screams again12:09
* Myrtti kicks her multifunction POS samsung scx-420012:09
* jussi01 hugs Myrtti 12:18
* jussi01 drools over: http://www.fiskerautomotive.com/12:18
MyrttiDAMNED MFP12:19
Tm_Tiu12:20
Tm_Tjussi01: that's the one they intend to manufacture in Finland?12:21
jussi01Tm_T: yep12:23
Tm_Thrrr12:25
Tm_Tmight be good when it's out12:25
* Pici rolls his eyes12:41
* Myrtti meeps weakly13:22
Picivroom vroom13:22
PiciHi Myrtti, how are you today?13:22
Myrttihot, panic-ridden13:23
Myrttijust ran to the library to print the ticket cause I can't be arsed to make that mfp to work13:24
Myrttibought more cloudberry liqueur13:24
Piciyum13:24
Myrttibtw, was looking at the #xubuntu ban list yesterday, perhaps it should be looked over with cody sometime13:26
PiciLots of old bans?13:27
Myrttinot lots, but most are set by the server as in I doubt no one remembers what they're fore13:29
Myrtti-e13:29
Picihrm :/13:29
Pici!ping13:53
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore13:53
Myrttiso now I've got five miniture bottles of cloudberry liqueur15:13
Myrttinote: five15:13
Jack_Sparrowfour, tree, du.  ummm15:14
bazhangjin (just banned) was likely thai; some of them do have 'porn' in their names15:51
Jack_SparrowAgreed15:51
Picibazhang: you mean their real names?15:51
Myrttiadsl-pool-222.123.105-71.tttmaxnet.com15:51
bazhangPici, yes; a wimbledon tennis player comes to mind15:52
Picibazhang: I dont follow tennis15:52
Myrttijin [n=jatuporn@222.123.105.71]15:52
Tm_Tinteresting15:52
Myrttigoah15:53
* Myrtti goes to continue washing the dishes15:53
myrttiMWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA16:27
myrtti Myrtti [myrtti@murjottava.myrtti.fi] has joined #kesakoodi16:27
PiciIs that 'moaning myrtti'?16:29
myrttiyup :-D16:29
Tm_T:))16:29
Pici:)16:29
myrttigrumping would be more accurate16:29
myrttibut hey, what can I do16:29
myrttiit wouldn't fit16:30
bazhangnixnoob back in the news16:30
Picihm?16:30
Piciyeah16:31
naliothno grumblecookies today, plesae16:45
naliothit is a very good day16:45
Picinixnoob...16:49
myrttinalioth: I just had one16:51
myrttiwas washing the dishes and broke a wine glass, unnoticed and slit my fingers a bit on the shards16:51
=== myrtti is now known as Myrtti
nalioth:(16:56
Jack_Sparrownixn))b is ban evading17:59
Piciagain?18:00
PiciJack_Sparrow: I removed him earlier from evading your first ban18:00
Jack_Sparrow<nixn00b> for my next trick i will spoof your ip and rejoin18:00
PiciWhat a maroon.18:00
jussi01right...18:01
naliothhow is he ban evading if you banned his IP ?18:02
Jack_Sparrow<nixnoob> Jack_Sparrow you kno there exists such a thing as a proxy, IRC bans are pointless.18:03
Jack_Sparrowbrb18:03
Myrttipleia2: is it just me...?18:36
pleia2Myrtti: stab stab18:37
pleia2:)18:37
Jack_Sparrowbbl, I need to make a service call...18:47
Pici-women?18:47
pleia2as usual18:47
* Myrtti shakes her head18:48
Myrttioh dear18:48
MyrttiLORD18:48
MyrttiI feel like I've lost a leg or am defor.mmm right18:48
Myrttigender is a deformation...18:49
MyrttiMEH18:49
MyrttiI'm like going to have that shower now18:49
Myrttimeh.18:49
FlannelShowers cure deformities?  Its a miracle!18:49
MyrttiI just find it odd that suddenly a presumed man shows intrest to get women intrested in Linux18:50
Myrttiand finds the first good idea to be "lets find girlish themes!"18:51
Myrttiwhat's wrong with the picture?18:51
Picis/linux/himself/?18:51
MyrttiPici: exactly.18:51
Myrtti"lets get women intrested in linux. maybe I might have a chance then"18:51
Myrttior something along those lines18:51
Myrttiooh, I'm being snappy18:52
Myrttitime to RILLY have that shower18:52
* pleia2 pats Myrtti 18:53
pleia2the patience of a saint is required for -women18:53
pleia2we're supposed to educate every troll that comes by, or else we get labelled as being too aggressive18:53
Piciand without the dash. :P18:53
* Pici kids18:53
* pleia2 nudges Pici :P18:53
pleia2which is unfair, but s'just how the world works18:53
pleia2I am sure most of them mean well anyway, they just don't *get it*18:54
MyrttiPici: do you still have that planet.ubuntu thingie somewhere handy?19:21
PiciMyrtti: What thingy?19:21
Picihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu this?19:21
* Myrtti waits for it to load19:22
Myrttiha19:23
Piciha?19:24
MyrttiI had that bzr branch still on my computer19:24
Myrttijust had to update it19:24
jussi01hrm, I think I really dont like this screen, maybe Ill take my old one back...19:28
Myrttiyou bought a new screen?19:29
jussi01no19:29
Myrtti>__<19:29
jussi01its one from a friend - Ill probably end up giving it away/selling it though19:29
jussi01its a syncmaster 240t19:30
Myrttimeeeeaaow19:30
jussi01While bigger than my old one, the picture quality is on ok...19:30
jussi01It could work quite nicely as a tv though19:31
jussi01If i had any need for a 24" tv...19:31
Myrtti...19:31
PiciI'll take it...19:31
jussi01Pici: pick up and its yours :D19:31
Myrttijussi01: remember what we did that one time at Prisma?19:31
Myrttiexcept looking for a grill for me?19:32
jussi01Myrtti: hmmm... which thing?19:32
jussi01hehe19:32
Myrtti... and I've told you about my plans on http://www.verkkokauppa.com/popups/prodinfo.php?id=1002619:33
jussi01same goes for you Myrtti... if you want it...19:35
Myrttican you bring it over :-P19:38
jussi01meh, id rather keep it than actually have to do something with it...19:41
Myrttisure19:42
MyrttiI'll spend 399€ on a new HD-ready one then19:42
Myrtti:-P19:42
Piciooh, an HD tv19:43
MyrttiNOT a tv19:43
Myrttino no no no no19:43
Piciooh, an HD-ready thing19:43
Myrtticomputer screen.19:43
Myrttibig difference.19:43
Myrttiabout 230€ worth of difference19:43
Myrtti... damned tv licences.19:44
Picioh19:44
PiciWe don't have those here19:44
Dave2We don't have to pay TV licence if we use TVs for consoles or whatever, which is nice.19:46
MyrttiDave2: in theory, neither do we19:47
ikoniaDave2: not true19:47
ikoniaDave2: you may want to check on that19:47
Dave2ikonia, it is true.19:47
ikoniahow certain are you ?19:48
Dave2100%19:48
ikoniareally I thought it was basiclly a television tax, I know someone who tried that approach and got taken to court, he paid before it went through though19:48
Dave2http://tinyurl.com/5v5kf619:48
Dave2(because it's massive.)19:49
ikoniaahhh thats right19:49
ikoniait's something to do with an arial19:49
Dave2I wouldn't bother telling them that I'm only using it for a console, because they have no legal right to check your house.19:49
ikoniathats how they judge it19:49
ikoniathere is something on this, I remember this row19:49
Dave2You can tell them to go away if they knock on your dor.19:49
Dave2door19:49
ikoniaI watch TV so I have no problem paying it, I think it's reasonable value19:50
Dave2I didn't buy one in my first year of uni, we've had one for the past 2 years.19:50
Dave2I don't watch much TV19:50
Dave2Certainly not enough to warrant paying for a TV licence if it was just me19:51
Myrttiwell I don't remember horribly missing tv19:51
Dave2I had no problem missing it in my first year19:52
ikoniaI don't watch that much, but thats the deal, you watch ou pay19:52
Myrttisure, there's Band of Brothers, Ask Jeeves and Foyle's war on telly now19:52
ikoniayou pay19:52
Myrttibut I've seen them already19:52
Dave2Which is why I don't watch and don't pay when it's just me19:52
Myrttibut the thing in Finland is, that if you can receive tv broadcasts with minor technical effort, you have to pay19:52
Myrttiwhich is why I'm buying HD ready computer widescreen, not telly.19:54
Dave2Also, I hate the TV licensing people's tactics, they're just harassing people. I paid for our licence 2 weeks ago. They sent out a letter a couple of days after saying "HI NEW PEOPLE WE ARE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON YOUR HOUSE PLZ PAY THX YOU ARE IN OUR DB." So we marked it return to sender, and posted it back. And then they sent it back to us again. I'm wondering how long it'll go on for.19:55
Jack_SparrowMyrtti How is the hand?20:46
Myrttioh, I'll survive21:05
Jack_Sparrowgood21:06
chinkuhello21:53
chinkuI've changed my router firmware to avoid the FixDCCExploit21:54
chinkubut am still unable to join #ubuntu21:54
chinkuwhy/21:54
chinku?21:54
jussi01chinku: did you follow the instuctions in the channel?21:54
chinkuwhen I type 'test me' nothing happens21:54
jussi01chinku: 1 moment21:55
jussi01chinku: you should be able to join now21:55
chinkuok thanks21:55
chinkubtw, what was the problem ?21:55
jussi01chinku: just took a minute21:56
ompaulthe internetz is full of spam21:56
ompaulor something21:56
* ompaul looks around21:56
jussi01chinku: anty thing else we can help with?21:56
ompaulsee some of ye tomorrow21:56
jussi01ompaul: go to bed...21:56
ompauljussi01, my flight is midday21:57
jussi01ompaul: heh21:57
ompauland the see some of ye was a reference to Real Life21:57
chinkujussi01:that will be all for now21:57
jussi01!idle | chinku21:57
ubottuchinku: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.21:57
jussi01ok :)21:57
* ompaul plays more aslan21:57
Myrttimeh21:58
Myrttihour left before leaving21:58
MyrttiI scared stiff21:58
* ompaul hands Myrtti a cup of peppermint tea 21:59
Myrttiawful. just plain awful.21:59
jussi01Myrtti: calm down - its all gonna be fine :)22:00
MyrttiI'll miss the bus, and the plane22:00
Myrttiand they'll do a strip search22:00
ompaulMyrtti, or none of the above22:00
mneptokMyrtti: where are you headed?22:00
ompaullive in the moment there is none of that happening22:00
ompaulbreath and do what you have to22:01
Dave2Myrtti, think of the $DRINKS tomorrow night!22:01
nalioth0_0 where are you going, Myrtti ?22:01
ompaulnalioth, where I is goin22:01
ompaulwhere ikonia is goin22:01
ompaulwhere jono is goin22:01
mneptokHell?22:01
* elkbuntu hugs Myrtti and heads to work22:01
ompaulhahahahahaaha22:01
Dave2where I is goin?22:01
ompaulmneptok, ;-)22:01
mneptokoh, LRL22:01
ompaulyou bad boy dude22:01
mneptokaye sah.22:01
naliothmneptok: you have arranged a welcoming committee there, right?22:01
* nalioth runs22:01
* elkbuntu is deaf in one ear from ear infection atm :(22:02
ompaulmneptok, got a book by matthieu ricard rather interesting talk on ted so I am told22:02
mneptoknalioth: i don't have the clout i once did. you know, after the ... unpleasantness ...22:02
MyrttiDave2: I've figured that it's really best if I don't really drink that much. The epic hangovers are due to my medication - and I'm not giving up on that22:03
Myrttiso drinking isn't exactly something I'm anxiously waiting for22:04
Myrttialthough my gifts for people happen to be in liquid form22:04
* Dave2 also doesn't plan to drink too much, simply because he doesn't like drinking that much22:04
elkbuntunalioth, question... is the server im connected to really really really laggy at the moment?22:05
MyrttiI almost feel like I should start washing the floors.22:06
Myrttibut I guess it's better if I don't.22:06
MyrttiI'm trying to figure out should I pack my crochet WIP in hand luggage and try to sneak in the crochet hook, or just let it go to the cargo thing22:07
ompaulthats cargo22:08
jussi01Myrtti: no point screwing around with the security22:08
ompaulnow you will be stopped if you carry that and they will look for more22:08
ompaulxrays see though your thoughts ... sorry bags22:08
naliothelkbuntu: i hope you have ctcp responses turned off, otw, you're in a black hole22:08
ompaulSWATman left :-(22:08
Myrttithe restriction list isn't extensive22:09
Myrttioh well.22:09
nickrudwave it about as you go aboard, saying 'I'll left cross anyone in my way"22:09
ompaul?22:09
elkbuntunalioth, im using bip, i got no idea, but the past 24hrs have been super laggy22:09
ompaulnickrud, that went over my head22:09
* nickrud learned knitting as a kid, it's a knitting term22:09
ompaulmneptok, you still paying attention?22:09
ompaulahh22:10
nickrudalways liked the boxing tie in, that's why it's one of the few things I remember22:10
mneptokompaul: nope!22:11
mneptoker ..22:11
naliothelkbuntu: unix and CST time: 1216329302 16:1322:15
ompaulhehe22:17
ompaulmneptok, I was afk kim just got in22:17
ompaulpm22:17
elkbuntunalioth, of what?22:19
ompaulSWAT, man, hi there!22:20
ompauldinner dinner dinner dinner ..22:20
* Myrtti sighs22:20
ompaulMyrtti, that gag I'll explain tomorrow22:21
ompaulI need to hide on him now :)22:21
* ompaul hides behind mneptok 22:21
Myrttiyou know, I think I'll put the cavycam on22:22
Myrttino, I wont22:22
nickrudcavity cam?22:22
* Myrtti considers22:22
ompaul........22:23
ompaulMyrtti, did you have that cup of tea?22:23
naliothelkbuntu: just giving you a time stamp to see how lagged you might be ( so you could do the math )22:25
SWATompaul: hi and yes, I missed you too22:25
SWATmy router was dying on me, I just replaced it. Let's hope I'm here to stay22:27
Myrttithere we go!22:29
Myrttihttp://myrtti.wippiespace.com/webcam/22:29
Myrttinow I can watch pigses even at LRL22:29
Myrttican I be a bit nervous now?22:32
* Myrtti goes to give the pigseh more hay22:33
elkbuntuoh. considering this laptop hasnt been ntp'd for a while, fail.22:36
elkbuntuit's certainly not 6 minute lag, although i had 5 minute lag about 12hrs ago22:36
* PriceChild tacklehugs elkbuntu out the door.22:38
Myrttiwhat an I forgetting...22:39
Dave2toothbrush!22:40
Myrttithat I have22:40
Myrttieven went to buy toothpaste22:40
Myrttibusinesscards check, 770 check, visa check, sunglasses!22:41
Dave2clothes!22:41
MyrttiAND almost forgot my pink fluffy rug outside22:41
* Dave2 should head upstairs and pack and go to bed.22:41
nickrudMyrtti cash for unexpected22:42
Myrtti30€ cash, will get more in da citeh if needed, visa I've got22:42
nickrudamazing what a good tip will do22:43
Myrttitip? tip? is that something edible?22:43
nickrudhahahaha22:43
MyrttiI've never tipped anyone in my whole life... not part of Finnish culture22:43
naliothMyrtti: it's part of the rest of the industrial worlds culture22:44
Dave2it's not really a part of .uk's culture22:44
* nickrud tries to imagine an unbribable cab driver22:44
Myrttinot Sweden either22:44
Dave2I very rarely tip22:44
nickrudI always tip, the people that get them usually really need them here22:45
Dave2(except for things like group food orders)22:45
ompaulMyrtti, no22:45
Dave2yeah, but we have a somewhat livable minimum wage here22:45
nickrudsome jobs, the employees are expected to get tips so minimum wage doesn't even apply. Imagine that22:46
nickrudgetting too close to #politics-lite, I'm gonna shut up22:47
naliothnot really, nickrud, just discussing worldly differences22:48
nickrudI was getting out my soapbox again. It's aways in my hip pocket22:49
naliothin the USA, waiters and waitstaff get paid $2.35 USD an hour and are expected to make up the rest of their income via tips22:50
naliothminimum wage here is just under $8 USD per hour22:50
ompaulnalioth, cheap by .ie standards22:50
naliothompaul: i'm just sayin'22:50
ompaulwell they are saying we are too dear, however our productivity is higher than a lot of places ...22:50
ompaulhorses for courses22:51
MyrttiCan I fret now?23:03
Myrttiplz?23:03
naliothMyrtti: you play guitar?23:03
Myrttig rrrrr23:04
* Dave2 sets Myrtti on fire.23:04
Dave2</bad_joke>23:04
Myrttiok, see you on the other side23:04
* Dave2 waves23:04
MyrttiI might be online before but...23:04
* Myrtti shrughs23:04
Myrttitatah23:04
Meznalioth, i made the same joe before.23:04
Mezthats scary23:05
elkeeeircing from the train23:10
elkeeeBECAUSE I CAN23:10
Mez:)23:12
MezeeePC ftw23:12
Mezelkeee, 701? 900? 1000?23:13
ompaulor something else23:13
elkeee70123:14
elkeeefor AU$27423:14
elkeee<3 clearance sales, pricematch & beat23:15
Myrttimiau23:23
ompaulMyrtti, start travelling ;-)23:23
Myrttiam23:24
Dave2Someone bring a spare nokia charger so I can properly charge my phone :P23:24
Myrttifirst part is over23:24
ompaulDave2, which size of charger?23:24
ompaulthe big or small one23:24
Dave2(my current one has a break in the cable. I can charge, but only if I have the cable held properly)23:25
Dave2erm, I dunno. The one that was on my old 3310, and is now on my 6230.23:25
Myrttibig23:25
ompaulthat is the cable type from 5 years ago?23:25
ompaulahh thats no use23:25
ompaulDave2, I'm no use to you23:26
Dave2My current phone is my brother's old old old old one which he gave to me23:26
Dave2so most likely23:26
Myrttihad you said hour earlier...23:26
Davieyompaul: are you still comming to lrl?23:28
ompaulDaviey, only if you shave / don't shave23:29
Davieywell i did trim earlier.. :)23:29
ompaulDaviey, I should restate that a bit better23:29
ompaulDaviey, only if you shave or don't shave23:29
DavieyDave2: poundland have a USB to multiple phone charger for £123:30
ompaulDaviey, get real money ;-)23:30
ompaulheheh23:30
Davieyompaul: so yes, you are comming \o/23:30
ompaulyeap23:30
Davieyompaul: Euro monopoly money?!23:30
ompaulDaviey, yeah, like I said real money23:30
Daviey<-- bigot, proud to keep his own currency23:31
ompaulDaviey, get me to do the cabbages is money chat over a glass of something like a still water23:31
Davieyompaul: what hotel are you staying in?23:32
ompaulDaviey, ohh I'll tell you that where it won't be logged too much23:32
ompaulpm23:32
ompaulDaviey, how about a big sunday morning breakfast somewhere23:33
ompaulthe full heart attack on a plate?23:33
Davieyhmm.. i've got b/fast included in my hotel23:34
Davieyalso need to be at the venue pre-7:30 both days :(23:34
Dave2isn't that pre-breakfast?23:34
* Dave2 actually goes and attempts to slee23:35
Dave2p23:35
ompaulDaviey, ok23:35
Myrttifirst row single seat \o/23:40
nickrudsounds lonely ;(23:40
DavieyMyrtti: are you coming?23:42
Myrttialso a place where I dont need traveling sickness meds23:42
Myrttitime to save battery to other uses...23:48
MezDaviey, thats a personal question ;)23:49
MezDaviey, she is attending LRL though (am meeting her at the airport tomorrow)23:49
DavieyMez: you rude thing!23:50
MezDaviey, ;)23:50
DavieyWell Myrtti, make sure you grab me and say "Hi"23:50
MezDaviey, youll have to reintroduce yourself to me23:51
Mezand er, Myrtti's gone now23:51
DavieyMez: naa, i'll let you live in denial23:51
Davieyanyway, in 6 months time, you still claim we have never met23:51
MezDaviey, lol - you on normal or AV crew this year?23:51
Davieyyou'll*23:51
DavieyV23:51
DavieyAV23:51
MezDaviey, come keysigning, then I cant deny it23:52
Davieymaybe.. :023:52
ompaulnight all23:58

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