[00:38] <MeanderingCode> Question about "alternate install":  Will this method install the current repository version of all packages?  ("Desktop" just installs what is in the image)
[01:23] <MXIIA> How many tests are there in the Memory test?
[01:25] <AlexJP> hi, anyone awake?
[01:25] <MXIIA> doesn't look like it
[01:27] <AlexJP> lol
[01:27] <AlexJP> do you know anything about wpa supplicant?
[01:27] <MXIIA> no, sorry
[01:28] <MXIIA> !wpa
[01:28] <MXIIA> !supplicant
[01:28] <MXIIA> !wpa supplicant
[01:28] <MXIIA> sorry :p
[01:32] <AlexJP> cheers
[01:32] <AlexJP> do you use wifi?
[01:32] <MXIIA> yes, but i have ubuntu, I am trying to put xubuntu on my laptop
[01:47] <wbadger> hello, does anyone else get a corrupted archive error for package linux-libc-dev?
[02:12] <evilbug> i just switched over from ubuntu and i need a little help navigating around xfce, can anyone help?
[02:16] <evilbug> one thing i'm trying to do is add stuff to the top panel. in gnome i'd just drag and drop the app from "Applications" onto the panel, it doesn't work that way.
[03:06] <craigbass1976> Anyone experienced wick slowness when booting from the livecd?  I realize things will be quite a bit slower than an install, but this box runs XP, and I waited a half hour or better to get to the desktop.  CD was spinning the whole time, I checked it for errors, but I only get a pointer that has a huge delay, and blank blue wallpaper.  Hardy Heron
[03:08] <zoredache> craigbass1976: what cpu and how much ram?
[03:11] <craigbass1976> I don't know.  I can't seem to get into the BIOS, so I'll have to boot into windows and check it out.  That'sonly a little faster....
[03:13] <evilbug> my internet connection died :( restating the problem.
[03:14] <evilbug> i just switched to xubuntu and i need a little help learning how to do some things and know my way around it. can anyone help me out?
[03:14] <zoredache> craigbass1976: if linux booted we can find that info out pretty easily
[03:15] <zoredache> if start a terminal and do a 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and 'cat /proc/meminfo' you will get information about your cpus and memory
[03:15] <cody-somerville> evilbug, just ask your question :]
[03:17] <evilbug> k. i'd like to know how i can add apps to the [top] panel (it was easy with gnome), how i can turn off trackpad click, set startup apps/commands.
[03:17] <evilbug> and how to access the power preferences panel.
[03:19] <cody-somerville> Right click panel, click add new item
[03:19] <cody-somerville> To set startup apps/commands, Applications > Settings > Settings Manager, and then click Autostarted Apps
[03:20] <cody-somerville> To access power preferences panel, you'll have to execute gnome-power-preferences
[03:27] <craigbass1976> zoredache, ahh.  1.10 ghz processor with 128 megs of ram.  Not so god
[03:27] <craigbass1976> good
[03:28] <craigbass1976> zoredache, I couldn't get a terminal in xub...
[03:28] <zoredache> craigbass1976: your processor is ok, but you really need more ram for the livecd to work
[03:28] <zoredache> 192 is required more is reccomended
[03:28] <craigbass1976> zoredache, well, how about just the install then?
[03:28] <craigbass1976> Will installed xub run ok?
[03:29] <zoredache> craigbass1976: for that you want to look at the alternate installer
[03:29] <zoredache> craigbass1976: it will run, but some memory hungry applications (firefox) won't do so well
[03:29] <zoredache> !lowmem | craigbass1976
[03:30] <zoredache> there are some pointers there that include things you turn off...
[03:32] <craigbass1976> zoredache, and I have to download another cd....
[03:32] <zoredache> yes, that is true
[03:32] <craigbass1976> BAH!  ok
[03:33] <craigbass1976> Actually, I'll see if I have some memory kicking around
[03:34] <craigbass1976> I'm out!  THanks for the links.  I've never had to worry about low mem systems before
[04:01] <evilbug> cody-somerville- i still can't figure out how to add custom apps to the panel.
[05:04] <thomas__> does anyone happen to know how to enable 3D acceleration for the 915 chipset
[05:40] <evilbug> how do i add a terminal icon to the panel?
[05:40] <evilbug> it's telling me that the "terminal" command isn't valid.
[05:40] <Odd-rationale> maybe xfce-terminal ? i don't remember...
[06:10] <zoredache> I believe it is 'xfce4-terminal' if you want the xfce terminal.  You could also use xterm, or others if you have a preference
[06:17] <evilbug> how can i add those system monitors to my desktop?
[06:23] <cody-somerville> gdesklets
[06:27] <evilbug> thanks! :)
[06:28] <evilbug> i'm on a macbook pro. with gnome i was able to mount my osx partition easily since it showed up under Places. how can i see it now, it's not showing up.
[06:36] <evilbug> what about installing new icon packs?
[07:45] <moj0rising> hello.
[07:45] <moj0rising> anyone know how to stretch the panel across the bottom of the screen?
[07:48] <zoredache> right click on it, and choose customize
[07:48] <zoredache> make sure it says full width
[10:05] <tzd> hi guys and girls! Have a question regarding xubuntu and wine. Is it possible to run wine in xubuntu please?
[10:16] <RyanVanDiemen> hi tzd: yes, sure it is, you can run wine in any linux distro
[10:17] <tzd> RyanVanDiemen: ah great, thanks! Installing xubuntu as we speak and for the time being all i need to work is wine since i need to try something out :) Now i know i haven't installed it in vain, cheers! :)
[10:18] <RyanVanDiemen> no problem :)
[10:41] <tzd> how do i find "my network places" or something equivalent in xubuntu please? Got a few samba shares but can't find where or how to access these within xubuntu
[10:51] <TheSheep> tzd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[10:53] <tzd> TheSheep: gosh... well im off to some modding now then, cheers :)
[13:29] <jdawiz> I think I looked everywhere.  Is there away beside installing nautilus that I can "connect to server" like in ubuntu.  What I really want is a good gui file sharing technique that uses something like ssh
[13:33] <TheSheep> jdawiz: sshfs
[13:33] <TheSheep> jdawiz: with fuse
[13:34] <jdawiz> thanks i will look into that
[13:35] <heath> is there anything for xfce like yakuake ?
[13:37] <TheSheep> you can install it
[13:37] <jussi01> there is a gnome one, Im just trying to remember the namer
[13:37] <TheSheep> tilda
[13:38] <jussi01> yeah
[13:38] <jussi01> !info tilda
[13:38] <heath> cool thanks!
[13:38] <TheSheep> yeahconsole too
[13:39] <heath> "yeahconsole" ?
[13:39] <heath> lol... ubottu
[13:40] <TheSheep> !info yeahconsole
[13:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i make the width of the applications menu larger
[13:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> as in how do i increase the size of the actual applications menu
[13:41] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's too wee
[13:42] <TheSheep> you can type somethinglonger than 'applications' into it...
[13:45] <CostaRicanQuaker> how=
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i mean i'm gcool with applications
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> but how do i make the actual menu where it says network etc
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> become bigger
[13:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> i've poor sight
[13:49] <TheSheep> CostaRicanQuaker: you want bigger fonts? you can set the font in settings->setting manager->user interface settings
[13:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> no, like the...actual menu
[13:50] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want it to be kde size
[13:54] <TheSheep> no idea what you mean and how to do it
[13:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> like if you click on applications on xubuntu
[13:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> there's a little menu
[13:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> not verymany inches long
[13:54] <CostaRicanQuaker> i want it big
[13:55] <TheSheep> then increase the font size -- then it will be bigger to accomodate the larger font
[13:55] <TheSheep> I can't see how big empty space in the menu would help
[13:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> thankyou Thesheep
[13:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> i leave now
[14:13] <solotim> hello, is there anyone using Empathy in Xubuntu?
[14:15] <solotim> I found a bug, which seems to be the bug of Empathy, and I reported to bugzilla.gnome, but the devleoper of Empahty said the one has bug is my window manager but not Empathy. I just can't figure out. Is there anyone have the same problem with me? see: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541969 for details. Thanks
[14:15] <solotim> hi, ubottu, :-D
[14:16] <solotim> You are right, that's my post.
[14:16] <TheSheep> !bot
[14:16] <totalwormage> !TheSheep
[14:16] <totalwormage> :O!
[14:16] <solotim> :-*
[14:17] <TheSheep> solotim: anyways, xfce's window manage ir xfwm4
[14:17] <TheSheep> is
[14:18] <solotim> oh. I see. I thought 'style' is wm, i was wrong.
[14:18] <TheSheep> and it's a common thing that gnome developers make things that only work under metacity and compiz while ignoring any specifications and other window managers
[14:18] <TheSheep> window manager is the application that places your windows on the screen
[14:19] <solotim> Thank you.
[14:48] <Bubalooshi> Hello everybody, I am back with a problem.
[14:49] <Bubalooshi> Whenever I try to boot up Ubuntu, I get a command shell (initramfs) and I cannot proceed to logging on.
[14:50] <Bubalooshi> I have Ubuntu 8.04.1-Desktop for those helping.
[14:51] <Bubalooshi> Vinnl!
[14:51] <vinnl> Bubalooshi! :)
[14:51] <Bubalooshi> I has a problem still X_X
[14:51] <vinnl> :(
[14:51] <vinnl> What's the problem?
[14:52] <Bubalooshi> Whenever I try to boot up Ubuntu, I get the command shell (initramfs) and I cannot logon. Or do anything.
[14:52] <vinnl> Ow :(
[14:52] <Bubalooshi> I heard yesterday it may be a problem with booting up, which sounds right, but I have no idea how to fix it.
[14:52] <vinnl> Me neither, unfortunately
[14:53] <Bubalooshi> You know anybody that might be able to help me?
[14:53] <vinnl> The people in #xubuntu :P
[14:53] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, or perhaps you could try the xubuntu-users mailinglist
[14:53] <Bubalooshi> What's that?
[14:54] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
[14:54] <vinnl> When you subscribe to it, you will get all emails sent to that list in your inbox
[14:54] <vinnl> And when you send an email yourself, all other subscribers will receive
[14:54] <vinnl> *it
[14:55] <vinnl> (Also people who aren't in your timezone and thus can't be on IRC when you are)
[14:55] <Bubalooshi> Yeah that's what I was thinking. :p
[14:55] <vinnl> And perhaps a message on the Ubuntu forums can help too
[14:55] <Bubalooshi> So it's kinda like a forum through e-mailing?
[14:56] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, yep
[14:56] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, a forum where every post is sent to your inbox
[14:58] <Bubalooshi> Do you think the forum is better? I just subscribed to it, but do you think the forum is good too?
[14:58] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, there are a *lot* of knowledgeable people on the forum
[14:59] <vinnl> You might not have that much luck with Xubuntu-specific problems, but a problem like this should have a good chance there
[15:02] <Bubalooshi> Alright, I'm registering right now.
[15:02] <Bubalooshi> Thanks.
[15:02] <vinnl> good luck :)
[15:07] <Bubalooshi> I have a n00b question.
[15:07] <Bubalooshi> Whaich board do you think I most appropriate for this? There's so many.
[15:08] <vinnl> Hmm, let me see
[15:09] <vinnl> Bubalooshi, this happens every time, since you've installed Xubuntu?
[15:10] <Bubalooshi> That's the problem... I've been able to get through only two times.
[15:10] <Bubalooshi> The first time after install, and then I got the problem many times.
[15:11] <Bubalooshi> Then randomly it worked again.
[15:11] <vinnl> That's strange
[15:11] <vinnl> Well, I'd go for either General Help or Installation & Upgrades
[15:11] <Bubalooshi> Alright, thanks.
[15:11] <vinnl> Hmm, General Help then, I'd say :)
[15:30] <simbacat> G'day, I'm looking for some help with automounting ntfs... worked until I upgraded to the latest kernel (.19), now it mounts external hdd as read-only
[15:33] <TheSheep> !ntfs-3g
[15:34] <simbacat> both ntfs-3g and ntfs-config are installed
[15:34] <TheSheep> simbacat: is 'fuse' loaded? try 'lsmod | grep fuse'
[15:34] <simbacat> problem is, it keeps automounting external NTFS disks with the ro option
[15:35] <TheSheep> can you just add a line to your fstab and tell it to mount rw?
[15:35] <simbacat> TheSheep: yes, fuse is loaded
[15:35] <simbacat> I could, but then I will have to add an entry for every external NTFS disk
[15:36] <TheSheep> hw many of them do you have?
[15:37] <simbacat> We work with lots of digital media and get clients with many hdds
[15:37] <TheSheep> I see
[15:37] <simbacat> So far it mounted drives just fine
[15:38] <TheSheep> maybe someone else will know, r you could check the forum and bugtracker -- maybe there is a workaround already
[15:38] <simbacat> Thanks
[15:38] <simbacat> I will look around
[16:21] <xaer0> hello
[16:21] <xaer0> i think i may have a broken system :(
[16:21] <vinnl> Oh my :)
[16:21] <xaer0> well its working now but i need some help
[16:21] <vinnl> What's the problem?
[16:22] <xaer0> is there a command to list all dependencies currently installed?
[16:22] <vinnl> xaer0, dependencies of what?
[16:22] <AlexCONRAD> xaer0: all packages?
[16:22] <xaer0> yes all packages
[16:23] <AlexCONRAD> dpkg --help might help
[16:23] <AlexCONRAD> xaer0: dpkg --list
[16:23] <arf`_> xaer0: either "dpkg --get-selections" or "aptitude search ~i"
[16:23] <xaer0> lets see if i can explain what i have done :P
[16:24] <xaer0> k, started with ubuntu, then installed xu, then installed ku, than openGEU ... desided that i didnt need ubuntu or KDE anymore.. tried to remove everything related to them
[16:24] <AlexCONRAD> :)
[16:24] <xaer0> so far im lost
[16:25] <vinnl> xaer0, so what's the problem? Missing some packages?
[16:25] <xaer0> but its working after i reinstalled gdm LOL that was a mistake
[16:25] <xaer0> so GDM is my default
[16:25] <arf`_> xaer0: a smooth way could be to put what you want to keep as manually installed, and tu put everything else as automatically installed
[16:25] <AlexCONRAD> yeah, when you uninstall gnome, it removes GDM
[16:26] <AlexCONRAD> which is needed for xfce to start up
[16:26] <xaer0> well GDM is screwing up my Log In window by not displaying it all
[16:26] <AlexCONRAD> (well, I guess you can start xfce another way though)
[16:26] <xaer0> like half the log in screen is not visable
[16:26] <vinnl> xaer0, is xubuntu-desktop still installed?
[16:26] <vinnl> Oh
[16:26] <xaer0> ya you could use XDM for xubuntu
[16:26] <vinnl> xaer0, you mean you can only see half of it?
[16:27] <xaer0> yes\
[16:27] <vinnl> I've had that problem too
[16:27] <xaer0> -desktop not installed
[16:27] <xaer0> install that?
[16:27] <vinnl> Or at least, I could only see the top left corner
[16:27] <vinnl> xaer0, if you want Xubuntu, yes :)
[16:28] <xaer0> ya top left here Vinnl too!
[16:28] <vinnl> xaer0, could you paste the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?
[16:28] <xaer0> ah.... after i select xubuntu-desktop it lists a bunch of files to be installed
[16:29] <AlexCONRAD> xaer0: that might be a good sign
[16:29] <vinnl> :)
[16:29] <vinnl> (It won't solve your problem though, I believe)
[16:29] <vinnl> (But it might solve others :)
[16:29] <xaer0> ya fix so links/files.. like pidgin and brasero
[16:30] <AlexCONRAD> xaer0: that's a "minimal" setup I have: build-essential gdm xfonts-base xserver-xorg libgl1-mesa-dri xfce4-session xfwm4 xfdesktop4 xfce4-panel xfce4-terminal xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra xfce4-mcs-plugins-extra gtk2-engines-murrine tango-icon-theme ttf-dejavu-core dmz-cursor-theme xubuntu-default-settings thunar thunar-archive-plugin
[16:30] <xaer0> after selecting xubuntu desktop... it will install 65 packages :(
[16:30] <AlexCONRAD> by making sure those are installed, you should have something acceptable
[16:31] <AlexCONRAD> xaer0: XFCE requires a few packages to run
[16:31] <vinnl> xaer0, those are the default Xubuntu packages :)
[16:31] <xaer0> oh okay :-D
[16:32] <xaer0> im going to pastebin something
[16:32] <vinnl> Yes please
[16:34] <xaer0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28046/
[16:34] <xaer0> for some reason i have to use nvidia-xconfig to get my display/resolution to work properly
[16:35] <xaer0> its these damn restricted drivers
[16:35] <vinnl> xaer0, see my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/242611
[16:36] <vinnl> I can't see the line that should be fixed in your file though
[16:37] <vinnl> xaer0, this might be the fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/216871/comments/16
[16:38] <xaer0> vinnl: the last link you sent sould work?
[16:38] <vinnl> xaer0, I think so
[16:39] <vinnl> xaer0, be sure to make a backup of /etc/gdm/Init/Default in advance though
[16:39] <xaer0> noted. :L)
[16:42] <xaer0> vinnl: i dont understand that last link fully
[16:42] <xaer0> i dont see the device name VGA-O
[16:42] <xaer0> but i see Screen-0
[16:42] <vinnl> Is that your monitor?
[16:43] <xaer0> Screen-0 Is
[16:43] <vinnl> OK, I'd use that then :)
[16:44] <xaer0> well BRB...
[16:44] <vinnl> Good luck :(
[16:44] <vinnl> *:)
[16:46]  * AlexCONRAD has finger crossed :)
[16:46]  * vinnl too :)
[16:48] <xaer0> no sir you are incorrect
[16:48] <vinnl> >.<
[16:48]  * xaer0 bashes head on keyboard
[16:49] <vinnl> xaer0, what was the line you added to /etc/gdm/Init/Default?
[16:49] <xaer0> oh a crash report
[16:49] <xaer0> right now :(
[16:49] <vinnl> For which application?
[16:50] <xaer0> oh just an applet
[16:50] <vinnl> Oh OK
[16:50] <vinnl> So what was the line you added to /etc/gdm/Init/Default?
[16:52] <xaer0> xrandr --output Screen-0 --mode 1280x960
[16:52] <xaer0> oh bug package gucharmap 1:2.22.1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127package gucharmap 1:2.22.1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127"
[16:52] <vinnl> Too bad, that sounds correct :P
[16:52] <xaer0> sorry quoted twice
[16:52] <vinnl> Oh wait
[16:53] <vinnl> That sounds like an unrelated problem :P
[16:53] <xaer0> ya i knkow
[16:53] <vinnl> xaer0, can you run "sudo displayconfig-gtk" and set the correct resolution with that?
[16:53] <xaer0> know
[16:53] <xaer0> lets try that vinnl
[16:54] <xaer0> ... oh wait a sec.. it that totally unrelated to my nv settings and xorg.config?
[16:54] <vinnl> xaer0, no, that application also modifies xorg.conf
[16:55] <vinnl> However, I used that to set my resolution, and it added a "Virtual ..." line to my xorg.conf which I could edit so gdm would use the correct resolution
[16:55] <xaer0> i cant test with that
[16:55] <vinnl> I couldn't either, don't think that's a problem
[16:55] <xaer0> so just pick the current res?
[16:55] <vinnl> It automatically makes a backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1
[16:55] <vinnl> xaer0, yeah
[16:55] <xaer0> it restarted X
[16:56] <xaer0> with the right res
[16:56] <vinnl> gdm too?
[16:56] <xaer0> the screen when black and asked me if i wanted to keep current display
[16:57] <xaer0> gdm is in my default debian startup config
[16:58] <xaer0> i use $ sudo rcconf
[16:58] <vinnl> But is your problem solved? If not, is there a line with "Virtual" in your xorg.conf?
[17:00] <xaer0> i dont see Virtual in my Xorg
[17:00] <xaer0> so i just restart to whats going on?
[17:00] <xaer0> or can i just crtl+alt+backspace it?
[17:01] <xaer0> oh shit.. i see Virtual under section "screen"
[17:01] <vinnl> And does it mention the resolution you want?
[17:01] <xaer0> its "Virtual 1856  1392"
[17:01] <vinnl> Right, if you correct that gdm should work
[17:02] <xaer0> ...
[17:02] <vinnl> ?
[17:02] <xaer0> just remove the Virtual Line?
[17:02] <vinnl> No, replace 1856 with 1280 and 1392 with 960
[17:03] <xaer0> that easy ?
[17:03] <xaer0> LOL
[17:03] <vinnl> ^.^
[17:03] <xaer0> f**k balls.. is how the Angry Video Game Nerd would put it
[17:03] <xaer0> LOL
[17:04] <xaer0> so to test i just restart?
[17:04] <vinnl> First save the file :)
[17:04] <xaer0> saved
[17:04] <vinnl> And then you can logout and log back in again
[17:04] <xaer0> k brb
[17:04] <xaer0> thanks.
[17:04] <vinnl> OK :)
[17:04] <vinnl> np :)
[17:04] <vinnl> *crosses fingers again*
[17:04] <vinnl> :)
[17:06] <AlexCONRAD> :)
[17:07] <vinnl> Ah well, I did the same thing and it worked for me, so... :)
[17:09] <vinnl> Hmm, he/she should be coming back now I think... :(
[17:12] <vinnl> Damn
[17:18] <AlexCONRAD> vinnl: maybe he's switching to fedora :)
[17:18] <vinnl> :(
[17:19] <vinnl> I feel really bad about myself now
[17:19] <AlexCONRAD> vinnl: naaah
[17:20] <AlexCONRAD> he installed/removed desktops multiple times
[17:20] <AlexCONRAD> he got lost
[17:20] <vinnl> Hmm true
[17:21] <AlexCONRAD> I'd backup my personnal stuff and reinstall a clean xubuntu
[17:27] <xaer0> gr...
[17:27] <xaer0> resolution out of range :(
[17:27] <AlexCONRAD> lower the res
[17:28] <vinnl> Ah, you're still alive, great :)
[17:28] <xaer0> hade to go 1152x864
[17:29] <xaer0> but 1280x960 worked
[17:29] <xaer0> before :(
[17:30] <vinnl> It might be that something resulting of all the desktop changes causes additional problems :
[17:30] <vinnl> *:(
[17:31] <xaer0> under virtual settings is there away to chnage the rate?
[17:31] <vinnl> xaer0, I believe you could do that with displayconfig-gtk
[17:32] <xaer0> grr nope
[17:32] <xaer0> my refresh rates arent correct
[17:34] <xaer0> 1152x864 ... my monitor makes this high pitched sound
[17:35] <xaer0> 1024x768 for now :(
[17:36]  * vinnl is still wondering how he ever managed to live with that :P
[17:36] <xaer0> well i can deal
[17:37] <xaer0> i started with 1024x768 ... that was kick ass with 3.11 and 95b
[17:37] <vinnl> Perhaps if you set it now with nvidia-xconfig it will restore the resolution you want without removing the solution for your gdm problem?
[17:37] <vinnl> ^.^
[17:37] <vinnl> I used that on ME and when I just started using Xubuntu
[17:37] <vinnl> Heck, that was on the same computer I'm still using today :S
[17:39] <xaer0> heh
[17:39] <xaer0> well ya maybe some nvidia-xconfig work :-D then just add the virtual settings to it :L)
[17:40] <vinnl> That might help too
[17:40] <vinnl> Worth trying :P
[17:42] <xaer0> removing all this KDE bulls**i
[17:43] <xaer0> all i want is Xubuntu and OpenGEU
[17:43] <xaer0> openGEU is Ubuntu using Enlightenment :L)
[17:43] <vinnl> xaer0, you might want to try starting from scratch
[17:44] <vinnl> Probably a lot cleaner :)
[17:44] <xaer0> the problem is i dont
[17:44] <xaer0> i have a windows xp and a opensuse 11.0 install on here
[17:47] <AlexCONRAD> I upgraded to 8.04.1, my ball mouse is no longer seen.
[17:47] <AlexCONRAD> fresh install from 8.04.1 iso (customized though)
[17:47] <vinnl> xaer0, can't you just overwrite Xubuntu's partitions?
[17:48] <xaer0> just removing some of these programs i dont use
[17:49] <xaer0> well.. i should just restart.. but that would require the moving of files from one partition to another
[17:49] <xaer0> over 6GBs of Naruto Shippuden
[17:49] <vinnl> Ah
[17:49] <vinnl> Next time you install, use a separate /home partition :)
[17:49] <xaer0> i like were i got Xubuntu at right now
[17:50] <vinnl> Ah :)
[17:50] <xaer0> :(
[17:50] <xaer0> ya i should just do it
[17:51] <vinnl> I like starting afresh because I can start discovering cool new applications again :)
[17:51] <xaer0> yep here we go moving files from EXT3 to NTFS
[17:51] <xaer0> i like SUSEs grub display
[17:52] <xaer0> i installed WindowsXP first so Xubuntu's grub should have no problme
[17:52] <xaer0> and Xubuntu should pick up SUSE fine on the install
[17:54] <xaer0> nero linux sould be fun to find again LOL
[17:54] <vinnl> :P
[17:55] <xaer0> it runs better with my DVD burner... K3B seems to overburn every DVD ive made
[17:55] <xaer0> well every DVD ive tried to fill to capacity
[17:55] <xaer0> 4.3 GBs
[17:56] <xaer0> all i have installed now is Xubuntu and OpenGEU.. and I still havent fixed my problems.
[17:56] <xaer0> ya a clean install is best
[17:58] <xaer0> i really wish i hate a SATA2 drive
[17:58] <xaer0> *i had.. sticking with a IDE drive
[18:00] <xaer0> so what program is the best for Nvidia? Envy?
[18:00] <vinnl> I don't know, I've managed with just the restricted drivers manager
[18:01] <vinnl> I know some people do no recommend envy, but then again, a lot of people also report it to work
[18:01] <zoredache> !envy
[18:02] <xaer0> envy is a front-in installer
[18:02] <vinnl> Ah :)
[18:03] <vinnl> I'm off - dinner
[18:03] <vinnl> Bye
[18:04] <xaer0> well im off
[18:05] <xaer0> time to reinstall Xubuntu and moving of files
[18:18] <CatfishD> hah
[19:22] <juantelez> hi, I have this stupid question: this tutorial  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen works for Xubuntu too?
[19:24] <vinnl> juantelez, as far as I can see it does
[19:25] <juantelez> vinnl: thaks, so... the xorg.conf files and other, are all in the same location?
[19:25] <juantelez> *thnks
[19:25] <juantelez> *thanks, ha
[19:25] <vinnl> juantelez, yep
[19:25] <juantelez> thanks a lot vinnl
[19:25] <vinnl> np :)
[19:28] <juantelez> can I ask you one more things vinnl?
[19:28] <vinnl> Sure, ask ahead
[19:30] <juantelez> vinnl: do you know (or could check) if these packages: xutils libx11-dev libxext-dev x-dev build-essential xautomation xinput xserver-xorg-dev , came in the alternative installation cd of Xubuntu 8.04?
[19:31] <vinnl> juantelez, the alternate CD should result in the same packages as the desktop cd
[19:31] <vinnl> juantelez, or do you mean if they are present on the CD itself?
[19:33] <juantelez> vinnl: yes, I mean if they came whit the CD
[19:34] <vinnl> juantelez, and which architecture?
[19:34] <vinnl> Ah it shouldn't matter by the way
[19:34] <vinnl> juantelez, you can check at http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.list
[19:34] <juantelez> vinnl: because I need to configure a tablet in a non-online desktop
[19:34] <juantelez> 32 bits
[19:34] <juantelez> thanks a lot vinnl
[19:34] <vinnl> np :)
[19:36] <juantelez> wow, that links is really helpfull to other kind of task!
[19:36] <vinnl> :)
[20:30] <MXIIA> what is the default username and password for the LiveCD?
[20:34] <zoredache> I believe there is no password by default
[20:36] <MXIIA> and the username?
[20:36] <zoredache> it usually auto-logins in.  But it is 'ubuntu' I beleive
[20:36] <MXIIA> ok i'll try that
[20:37] <MXIIA> not ubuntu or xubuntu
[20:37] <MXIIA> or admin, or demo
[20:37] <zoredache> are you sure you are booted to the cd?
[20:37] <MXIIA> yes
[20:37] <zoredache> how are you trying to login?
[20:38] <MXIIA> this is the first time I have tried Linux on that computer, and I selected the first option.. "Boot without touching harddrive" or something like that
[20:39] <zoredache> yes, but it should have came up to a logged in desktop.  Are you at a text console or something like that?
[20:40] <MXIIA> I thought it would log in automatically also, I am in normal mode, it looks just like the default ubuntu scren, just blue and says xubuntu
[20:40] <MXIIA> so, not in text mode
[20:46] <vinnl> MXIIA, I've heard of that before - the username really should be "ubuntu" and the password empty. If that's not it, there's something wrong, and trying other username/password combinations is useless
[20:46] <vinnl> MXIIA, if you do a search on the internet I think you'll find something to help
[20:47] <MXIIA> well, I restarted the computer... and got a blank screen after selecting the first option :/
[20:51] <MXIIA> ahh, 3rd time does the trick
[20:52] <vinnl> \0/
[21:29] <cottima> hey, cody-somerville
[21:29] <slow-motion> hi
[21:29] <cody-somerville> Hello
[21:29] <cottima> I have been busy.  Did you still want me to try the xubuntu install to test the floppy?
[21:30] <cody-somerville> cottima, Sure.
[21:30] <cody-somerville> I think I have a machine at home. I'll make a note to test it myself tonight as well.
[21:30] <CatfishD> lolz.
[21:31] <cottima> by the way, is there a good gui lvm viewer/editor? or live cd with?
[21:31] <cody-somerville> not sure
[21:46] <CatfishD> i'm connected to my xubuntu box thru a vnc and when i try to shut it down it doesn't work :(
[21:48] <slow-motion> n8
[21:48] <xaer0> hellos
[21:49] <xaer0> clean install of just xubuntu 8.04 and opensuse 11 KDE
[21:49] <xaer0> does compiz work in xubuntu?
[21:50] <vinnl> xaer0, you can get it to work without too much trouble
[21:51] <xaer0> nice
[21:51] <vinnl> Certainly :)
[21:51] <vinnl> That is, if your graphics card supoprts it, of course
[21:51] <xaer0> its good eye candy to show those "windows users"
[21:51] <vinnl> I'm quite fond of it myself too :P
[21:51] <xaer0> clean install.. no problem yet
[21:52] <vinnl> \0/
[21:52] <xaer0> i really dont use it much myself
[21:52] <xaer0> by those emerald themes are so nice :L)
[22:00] <xaer0> since i started it with compiz --replace. with it start with xubuntu
[22:05] <vinnl> xaer0, sorry?
[22:06] <xaer0> i used alt+f2 and then typed "compiz --replace" .. will it start automatically from now on?
[22:07] <vinnl> No
[22:07] <vinnl> xaer0, I wrote a guide on using Compiz on Xubuntu, you should be able to find it easily
[22:07] <vinnl> Wait, I'll look it up...
[22:08] <xaer0> oh i found it
[22:08] <xaer0> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[22:08] <vinnl> Yep :)
[22:10] <xaer0> brb :)
[22:32] <CatfishD> i love xubuntu :$
[22:32]  * CatfishD blushes
[22:32] <vinnl> Everybody does, naturally ;-)
[22:32] <xaer0> ohh... pretty
[22:33] <vinnl> xaer0, \0/
[22:33] <xaer0> compiz + emerald + xubuntu = pretty
[22:33] <vinnl> ^.^
[22:33]  * xaer0 yells "SHINNY"
[22:33] <xaer0> faster than ubuntu and ubuntu-studio
[22:33] <CatfishD> hah
[22:35] <xaer0> not as fast as puppy linux + compiz :-P
[22:36] <xaer0> i am a fan of Puppy Linux as well.. tho not supported enof
[22:36] <xaer0> beats Damn Small Linux and GoblinX into the ground with its speed
[22:37] <xaer0> at least Xubuntu can handle over clocking better than Compiz+Emerald+Ubuntu Studio.. i tell ya Studio would crash because of it
[22:37] <xaer0> i took this Sempron 3000+ from 1.6 to 2.2 Ghz
[22:51] <xaer0> later guys
[23:07] <Genelyk1> vinagre crash xubuntu 8.10. alpha2
[23:07] <vinnl> Genelyk1, can you report it at bugs.ubuntu.com after checking it hasn't already been reported?
[23:13] <Genelyk1> searching report in bugs
[23:16] <Genelyk1> is reported
[23:17] <vinnl> Great :)
[23:19] <Genelyk1> synaptic  is slowwww
[23:36] <Genelyk1> I have problem , since installed alpha2 , in  tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 , show text "  hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2 "      what is Hardware o software ?