[00:01] <cpk1> its greedy?
[00:03] <Dannilion> Sounds right :P Anyway I can tell it to stop? :P
[00:03] <Dannilion> It's now up to 528MB...
[00:08] <XJman> Anyone know why I am loosing recognization of my wireless card at random times?
[00:09] <XJman> Anyone?
[00:09] <crazy6> has anyone here installed kubuntu on an imac (and retained OS X) ?
[00:16] <justs0me> when i do "su -" in terminal to use superuser it says authentication failure, i put in the right pw and its right... wth
[00:17] <justs0me> though while i do sudo apt-get install somthing i put the pw in and it works?????
[00:27] <justs0me> is there a way to have konsole be in the box when i right click the desktop (like in fedora)'
[00:27] <zabbadapp> Dannilion: are you using compiz?
[00:28] <justs0me> where is a good post install tutural for like nvidia and wireless?
[00:28] <Githzerai> justs0me: ubuntu has no root password so logicaly su doesn't work
[00:28] <justs0me> oh
[00:29] <justs0me> humm
[00:29] <Githzerai> justs0me: if u want superuser password type sudo passwd (sudo uses your user password, if that's what you're wondering about ;) )
[00:30] <justs0me> in adept manager to the left of status there are kubuntu icons sometimes what does this mean ?
[00:30] <justs0me> k
[00:30] <Githzerai> justs0me: It means that those packages are from main repository, and officialy supported
[00:31] <minhaaj> i can't get my programs to stay on system tray. when i close the window it minmizes but i can't access it again. i have to kill process and restart it
[00:31] <minhaaj> any help ?
[00:38] <_CrashMaster_> !info zoneminder
[00:38] <_CrashMaster_> Yeah yeah, but how do I START it?
[00:39] <[pyro]> lol
[00:39] <[pyro]> did you check init scripts?
[00:39] <_CrashMaster_> Biggest pain in the ass I have with Linux is how to FIND and START a program I installed.
[00:39] <cpk1> what about "zoneminder"?
[00:39] <_CrashMaster_> Command Not Found. I've tried the obvious stff :P
[00:40] <[pyro]> cd /etc/init.d/ and have a look in ther?
[00:40] <[pyro]> there*
[00:40] <[pyro]> not sure if it runs as a daemon or not..
[00:40] <_CrashMaster_> Its got a listing. In green, whatever that signifies.
[00:41] <cpk1> man zoneminder?
[00:41] <[pyro]> ./zoneminder start
[00:41] <[pyro]> from that dir
[00:41] <daemon3> I must part, my dear friends!
[00:42] <_CrashMaster_> of COURSE it wants to throw errors. I havent configured it yet. I downloaded something called MythZoneMinder (allegedly a front end) and I cant bloody find THAT one either! :P
[00:42] <[pyro]> did you install these as deb packages?
[00:43] <_CrashMaster_> got em from adept
[00:44] <[pyro]> ok, you can type #dpkg -L <packagename> and that will list all files owned by said package
[00:44] <[pyro]> you will see what it has installed where
[00:44] <[pyro]> the other thing you can do is go into Adept Manager and navigate to said package and check the details of it, you will see there what files it has installed too.
[00:45] <[pyro]> i suggest the first thing you check are the documentation files for each package, as that will give you more info on how to get it all up and running.
[00:47] <daemon3> I must part, my dear friends!
[00:47] <daemon3> Did you miss me?
[00:49] <justs0me> anyone try SELinux in kubuntu?
[01:00] <Dannilion> sorry zabbadapp- I'd gone AFK. No, I'm not using compiz- just Kwin
[01:07] <dilipgarg> Hello. I am looking to setup a proxy server so that I can surf online without getting my real IP broadcasted for free. Does proxy server has this ability?
[01:09] <dilipgarg> Just now I was chatting in a Java based chat room and the someone pops up asking the weather about my city!
[01:10] <Githzerai> dilipgarg: google for anonymous proxy
[01:11] <dilipgarg> Gith: Do you mean simple http proxy setup in firefox?
[01:12] <greeg> can someone check out my web server to verify if it's reachable ?  http://24.115.113.177/stuff
[01:13] <dilipgarg> greeg: yes, it is up and running
[01:13] <greeg> cool thanx
[01:13] <dilipgarg> urw
[01:14] <greeg> ?
[01:14] <dilipgarg> Githzerai: If you mean http proxy setup in firefox, that doesnt let me enter into Java based chat rooms
[01:14] <walkboss> Can someone give me a hand getting the resolution correct on my second monitor?
[01:14] <dilipgarg> greeg: you are welcome
[01:15] <greeg> ahh
[01:16] <Githzerai> dilipgarg: why not use regular chat then ? ;)
[01:17] <dilipgarg> Gith: I just asked about the proxy server features. Do you if it can conceal my IP address?
[01:17] <dilipgarg> Do you know^
[01:18] <dilipgarg> probably you dont!
[01:19] <Githzerai> dilipgarg: It is a point of anonymous proxy
[01:20] <dilipgarg> Gith: That much i knew without googling anything. I am obviously looking for some informartion about setting it up
[01:20] <dilipgarg> anyways. I'll try to find my way
[01:21] <dilipgarg> Githzerai: a word of advice though, don't try to joke/sell about anything that the other person isnt looking for!
[01:22] <Githzerai> dilipgarg: You're tying to hide your IP adress. I say use anonymous proxy.  Weather u will listen or not, it's up to you.
[01:31] <Walkboss> Can someone give me a hand configuring my external monitor with nvidia-settings?
[01:32] <Walkboss> Uhm... The only problem I have is setting the correct resolution
[01:33] <Walkboss> nvidia-settings won't list resolutions any higher than 640x480.
[01:34] <louie_> ?
[01:34] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[01:34] <Githzerai> Walkboss: Try with monitror and display config in systemsetting ?
[01:34] <louie_> can anyone help me?
[01:34] <spiel_mit_feuer> i think im going to wipe out /.. and reinstall the entire kubuntu desktop.. not just kde-core
[01:36] <Walkboss> Githzerai: sys settings is saying something weird.. I'll be right back. Resetting X
[01:37] <Walkboss> The 2nd monitor can't be detected in System Settings. It could be in the past, but I couldn't set it to anything.
[01:38] <lesergi> hi all
[01:38] <Walkboss> The 2nd monitor works fine, but it's just displaying a cloned 640x480
[01:38] <cadoo> louie_: just say what your problem is
[01:38] <Guest31577> Hello. What should change in the menu.lst to make the windows xp the default? Cause i've just installed the kubuntu 8.04 for a newbie user.
[01:39] <lesergi> I just upgraded my hardy to intrepid, but I can't set KDE4 in my language
[01:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> heh.. kde4.. headache
[01:39] <lesergi> I installed language-pack-kde-es and kde-l10n-es and I set it in systemsettings, but nothing..
[01:39] <Walkboss> #kubuntu-kde4
[01:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> 582mb is all kde4 takes up?
[01:39] <Githzerai> Walkboss: in syssettings, first u need to setup seceond monitor just the same as fist one.... chose model type etc...
[01:39] <lesergi> oks
[01:39] <spiel_mit_feuer> seems like it would suck more HDD than that
[01:40] <spiel_mit_feuer> any idea how much an ubuntu command-line install takes up?
[01:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[01:41] <cadoo> spiel_mit_feuer: i think ubuntu server is ~300
[01:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> full kde4.. and ubuntu command-line is only 1gb total
[01:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> thats not much at all
[01:41] <spiel_mit_feuer> vista is 15gb alone
[01:42] <spiel_mit_feuer> however.. i think i will have to leave you guys soon
[01:42] <spiel_mit_feuer> hey
[01:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> if you dont know what youre doing and being stuck with kde4.. why are you going with an unstable testing distro?
[01:44] <spiel_mit_feuer> kde is starting to feel a bit too much like windows for me
[01:45]  * dr_Willis has never seen much logic to such statements.
[01:45] <spiel_mit_feuer> probably because i set it up to look pretty similar
[01:45] <spiel_mit_feuer> my fault though
[01:46] <spiel_mit_feuer> whats that thing i see like a taskbar on top of some desktops.. but holds a list of application icons?
[01:47] <deans> HI
[01:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> he.. brb
[01:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> some of my mesochistic tendencies are taking control.. and i just installed kde4 because im in the mood to torture myself
[01:55] <spiel_mit_feuer> im back for now...
[02:23] <Dr_willis_> wowsers
[02:24] <crazy6> ?? does kubuntu not have the automagic flash installer anymore?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> !flashplugin-nonfree
[02:25] <crazy6> hrm
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !flash
[02:26] <Githzerai> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[02:30] <crazy6> aw sound doesn't work on my imac
[02:30] <crazy6> sad
[02:32] <bascule> unquery
[02:33] <peterjordan1977> morning all
[02:35] <dwidmann> night all
[02:37] <crazy6> gah I installed flashplugin-nonfree and firefox hasn't magically picke dit up
[02:39] <peterjordan1977> flash player 9?
[02:39] <eagles051387> crazy6: ff3 or 2
[02:40] <Konda> I am having difficulty with youtube on Ku8.04 - 64bit
[02:41] <BluesKaj> peterjordan1977,  flashplugin-nonfree
[02:41] <Konda> same issue probably
[02:41] <crazy6> ah, the downloads window was hiding there
[02:41] <crazy6> ok, restarted it and it's ok now
[02:41] <crazy6> but still no sound systmewide :(
[02:41] <Konda> I haven't restarted yet
[02:42] <eagles051387> Konda: flash nonfree version 10 is having some issues in x64 hardy i have been having the same problems with getting it to play any flash related movies
[02:43] <BluesKaj> Konda,  dunno if the 64 bit flash prob is fixed on 8.04 ...you may need to install ia32
[02:43] <justs0me> where are soem goog tuturials for nvidia and wireless for 8.04?
[02:43] <Konda> ah.... medibuntu
[02:44] <Konda> I haven't even read this yet, but apparently, this is supposed to help
[02:44] <Konda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[02:44] <Konda> .....why not?
[02:45] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why i can't change cpu frequency policy via kpowersave?  i've always been able to do so.  did some update break it?
[02:46] <Konda> so it's either dynamic powersave or performance now, right?
[02:46] <Konda> my screen just went bright all the way
[02:47] <eagles051387> has anyone tried the new upgrade method cdless upgrade using internet
[02:47] <fulat2k> Konda: you mean the Active Scheme?
[02:48] <Githzerai> eagles051387: What exactly do you mean? Like apt-get dist-upgrade or ?
[02:48] <eagles051387> no
[02:48] <BluesKaj> eagles051387, yes but only for the the official release , not for any alphas or beta RCs
[02:48] <eagles051387> upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[02:48] <Konda> well they're just the options in the power manager
[02:48] <eagles051387> im doing it right now using my net connection im just wondering what the new method is like if there have been any issues
[02:49] <BluesKaj> worked fine for my upgrade ...at first
[02:49] <Githzerai> eagles051387: that's it : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ;) I used it all the way from dapper ;)
[02:49] <fulat2k> Konda: under which section?  CPU Frequency Policy?
[02:49] <peterjordan1977> is that any different then apt-get upgrade?
[02:49] <eagles051387> the new method involves a new upgrade tool that automatically checks for new pkgs upgradeable ones and ones that need to be removed
[02:50] <Konda> yes, CPU frequency scaling policy
[02:50] <eagles051387> when i used to upgrade by updating the sources list i used to break my entire installation
[02:50] <Githzerai> peterjordan1977: Yes, upgrades whole distro
[02:50] <fulat2k> Konda: heh.. it's now "not supported" :(
[02:51] <Githzerai> eagles051387: I never upadated sources list, just clicked on icon in adept as new version arrived...
[02:52] <Githzerai> adept recognised new version, and notified me about it....
[02:52] <Konda> ah
[02:52] <Konda> that's why my laptop is so hot all the time
[02:52] <peterjordan1977> whats the tool called?
[02:52] <eagles051387> Githzerai: i started with edgy and i used to update my source list
[02:54] <Konda> woah I just got it!!! weird?!?!
[02:54] <Konda> holy kuuuu
[02:54] <eagles051387> Konda: what kinda proc
[02:54] <Konda> Turion X2
[02:55] <Konda> 1600
[02:55] <Konda> Acer Aspire
[02:55] <eagles051387> same with mine mines a tl58 in an hp tablet and that thing is hot and it runs vista
[02:55] <Konda> Ku8.04-x64 installed
[02:55] <eagles051387> lucky my new laptop had loads of toruble with gutsy and reluctant to try hardy
[02:55] <Konda> eagles: you use 32 or 64 bit
[02:55] <eagles051387> on my laptop ultimate 64bit
[02:56] <eagles051387> and on this desktop and my old laptop running 64bit linux
[02:56] <Konda> I was trying to get youtube to play, and it wouldn't and wouldn't
[02:56] <Konda> and then I clicked another link after trying to play a video, and then clicked back to the video, and all of a sudden it played
[02:56] <peterjordan1977> have you tryed installing the flash plugin from there website that works fine for me
[02:56] <Konda> that's BS man
[02:57] <peterjordan1977> i watch bbc iplayer everynight
[02:57] <peterjordan1977> ahh
[02:57] <peterjordan1977> ok
[02:57] <Konda> iplayer huh
[02:57] <Konda> hmm...
[02:57] <Konda> yeah - why does it work when I click *back* to the page... why did it not work the first time? bizarre.
[02:57] <peterjordan1977> did you restart x
[02:58] <Konda> nope. I sure didn't
[02:58] <Konda> Didn't restart the machine since *any* of the restricted-install stuff I've been doing
[02:58] <Konda> I just want it all to work on the fly.  :-)
[02:58] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. I got a 'dvd video archive' my brother made. it contains a video_ts directory, do i burn THat directory to a dvd. (so the root of the dvd has 1 dir, video_ts) or do i burn the contents of the video_ts direcory to the dvd root, so the root directory has a lot of files?
[02:59] <Konda> Instantaneous gratification darn it!
[02:59] <peterjordan1977> lol
[02:59] <Konda> hehehe
[02:59] <peterjordan1977> well dont we all
[02:59] <peterjordan1977> lol
[02:59] <Konda> ok next video...
[02:59] <peterjordan1977> the only problem i have had so far is moonlight for itv ctch up
[02:59] <Konda> and I click on it, and it doesn't play
[03:00] <Konda> and I go forward, and back, and it does!
[03:00] <Konda> well, at least I found the workaround.
[03:00] <peterjordan1977> i dont know mate all i say is try the flash9 plugin from adobe that worked fine for me
[03:00] <hibread> hey guys! Im extremely new to the [k]ubuntu world (Gentoo before). Im having issues with installing nvidia drivers. KdeMenu -> System -> Hardware Drivers Manager seems to contain nothing. I have the GTX 280 if maybe thats a problem?
[03:01] <Konda> hmmm.... gtx 280
[03:01] <Konda> chris curtis where are you
[03:02] <hibread> System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Hardware doesn't seem to have anything post Geforce 8
[03:02] <peterjordan1977> apt-get update apt-get upgtade then try again ? with hardware driver manager
[03:03] <peterjordan1977> or if you have the update icon by the clock then run the updates from there
[03:03] <mr---t-> hibread: that is for proprietary drivers or what was called restricted drivers in ubuntu
[03:03] <hibread> Im a little confused about where im supposed to install from.. im used to having 'nvidia-settings' control all my hardware settings (multi monitor resolutions etc)
[03:03] <Konda> upgtade? ah that's specifically for GT family I take it
[03:03] <peterjordan1977> ok typo
[03:03] <dr_Willis> hibread,  you can install the 'nvidia-settings' tool if you wish to use it. (i normally do)
[03:03] <Konda> oh ok
[03:04] <hibread> dr_Willis: thats a manual install?
[03:04] <hibread> mr---t-: nvidia only have proprietry drivers dont they?
[03:04] <peterjordan1977> has anyone had anyluck with moonlight (novels open source silverlight)
[03:05] <dr_Willis> hibread,  its in the package manager.
[03:05] <mr---t-> !nvidia
[03:05] <hibread> peterjordan1977: was that message up further directed at me?
[03:05] <hibread> dr_Willis: cheers ill check it out. Do i need to do anything to force nvidia-settings to override any kde/kubuntu graphics setup (resolutions etc)
[03:06] <dr_Willis> nvidia-settings configures the xorg.conf file. about all i ever have to do is isntall the proper nvidia drivers, and tweak with nvidia-settings
[03:07] <hibread> ubottu: yep i checked that out and all it says is "Go to KMenu->System->Hardware Drivers Manager and check the box to enable the restricted drivers for your nVidia card if the option is provided."
[03:07] <peterjordan1977> yes sorry i shouldnt but in
[03:07] <hibread> i see
[03:07] <hibread> mr---t- then :)
[03:07] <peterjordan1977> just in my experience
[03:07] <mr---t-> sorry  :-)
[03:08] <peterjordan1977> i used had to do apt-get update then apt-get update then run hardware drivers manager then it worked fine
[03:08] <peterjordan1977> upgrade lol
[03:08] <peterjordan1977> im tired
[03:09] <peterjordan1977> and i installed nvidia-settings to tweek
[03:09] <hibread> peterjordan1977: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[03:09] <peterjordan1977> yep
[03:09] <peterjordan1977> sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. ANyone noticed when burning a cd/dvd with k3b. using the Verify data option,  that k3b ejects the cd/dvd? ya got to push the tray back in, to get it to actually start verifying?
[03:09] <peterjordan1977> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:10] <Konda> ack! click on too many videos, and back, firefox closes! not cool!
[03:10] <sgallinger> how do I get digikam to work with my kodak camera, I added the camera, but it sais failed to load camera when I try to get the pictures off it
[03:10] <hibread> why do i have to use the sudo gear? a root user would be nice
[03:10] <mr---t-> dr_Willis: no mine worked fine
[03:10] <dr_Willis> mr---t-,  yea.  one pc is doing this eject thing.. other machines are not.. (other is a laptop) if that matters...
[03:10] <Konda> I just quizzed on what song david bowie and mick jagger sing together
[03:12] <hibread> ive got nvidia-glx-new installed.. should i have nvidia-glx aswell/instead ?
[03:12] <mr---t-> !root | hibread
[03:12] <Kroooks> I have a 1TB external harddrive I put together. I don't know what filesystem should I use. Using a journaled system will waste a lot of reserved space and I don't know if thats worth it. I have narrowed down my choices to Fat32, NTFS, or ext3. Anyone has any advise ?
[03:12] <peterjordan1977> no
[03:12] <peterjordan1977> just the new driver
[03:13] <hibread> ok good
[03:13] <dr_Willis> waste a lot of reserved space? if its reserved.. isent it allready gone? :)
[03:13] <hibread> thanks for ay help guys.. ill see how i go!
[03:13] <dr_Willis> I imagine the best Filesystem would depend on the job the drive is doing. and the main OS thats accessing it.
[03:13] <Konda> well ext3 is journaled, is it not?
[03:14] <peterjordan1977> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto (hibread) thats a good [;ase if alls not good
[03:14] <Kroooks> ext3 is journaled
[03:14] <peterjordan1977> ahhh
[03:14] <peterjordan1977> darn
[03:14] <eagles051387> lol
[03:14] <Kroooks> Its just to keep files like, documents, movies and music
[03:14] <dr_Willis> Im sort of confused as to the whole statement. :)  about journaled 'wasteing' space. :)
[03:14] <eagles051387> i think alot of linux file formats are journaled
[03:14] <eagles051387> the journal is only 512bytes or kb
[03:15] <dr_Willis> there is 'reserved' space. and theres the 'journel' also...
[03:15] <peterjordan1977> i use ext3 it seems to work fine
[03:15] <mr---t-> terabyte is alot of space
[03:15] <Konda> ext2 is not journaled, I believe
[03:15] <Kroooks> dr_Willis: I mean it reserves a part of the hard disk for the journal, thus less space for other stuffs.
[03:15] <peterjordan1977> how much does it reserve?
[03:16] <Kroooks> peterjordan1977: Cause my 500gb harddisk formated with ext3 became like 430gb
[03:16] <dr_Willis> You can set the reserved space % also
[03:17] <Kroooks> ext3 also reserce 5% for root user
[03:17] <dr_Willis> that 5% is customizeable.
[03:17] <peterjordan1977> hmmm not sure
[03:17] <dr_Willis> you could set it to 0% if you wanted.
[03:18] <Kroooks> dr_Willis: you sure of this ?
[03:18] <peterjordan1977> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto (hibread) thats the best info
[03:18] <dr_Willis> Kroooks,  tune2fs --help
[03:18] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:18] <Kroooks> cool!
[03:18] <peterjordan1977> oh god it never ends
[03:18] <dr_Willis> [-m reserved_blocks_percen
[03:18] <peterjordan1977> lol
[03:18] <peterjordan1977> love kubuntu tho
[03:19] <dr_Willis> Note that the % does not actually change - i think. till the fileystem gets remounted.
[03:19] <hibread> peterjordan1977: it hardly says i thing there! :)
[03:19] <peterjordan1977> ok
[03:27] <alucard_temp> i am haveing trouble installing firefox 3  can anyone help me out
[03:28] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:28] <dr_Willis> is giving some errors?
[03:28] <alucard_temp> no that installs firefox 2
[03:28] <dr_Willis> Hmmm
[03:28] <dr_Willis> !info firefox
[03:29] <dr_Willis> it should install firefox-3
[03:29] <dr_Willis> !info firefox-2
[03:29] <Jucato> maybe pre-hardy
[03:29] <alucard_temp> when i did sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 it said that it installed but i cant use it
[03:29] <dr_Willis> Yep.. gotta love playing 20 questions to get to the actual question/problem...
[03:29] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:30] <alucard_temp> ill try it again mabey i will get different results
[03:31] <intelikey> anyone know a command to activate the "gnome menu" ?   i would ask in #ubuntu but i'm banned from that channel.
[03:31] <dr_Willis> oh.. I recall an issue if you installed firefox2/3 when you had firefox3/2 running... :)   at least during beta. its like the 'firefox' command ran the wrong one till  you rebooted/loggedout..
[03:32] <Jucato> intelikey: try Alt+F1? not sure if that works in Gnome as will
[03:32] <Jucato> s/will/well/
[03:32] <alucard_temp> ill try rebooting
[03:33] <intelikey> Jucato that's it,  thanks.
[03:36] <intelikey> hmmm Jucato hmm doesn't work if gnome-panel is not running.
[03:36] <Jucato> intelikey: of course :)
[03:36] <intelikey> ?
[03:37] <Jucato> the menu is part of gnome-panel
[03:37] <intelikey> any alternative ?
[03:37] <Jucato> autohide the panel?
[03:37] <intelikey> doesn't work with an empty panel
[03:37] <intelikey> can't move or hide it.
[03:38] <intelikey> i guess i could put something on it and hide it.    i would rather just remove it tho
[03:40]  * dr_Willis knows better then to even ask what this  gnome haxoring song and dance is about. :P
[03:41] <dr_Willis> Back to tweaking jwm and rox.... :)
[03:42] <intelikey> oh just trying to configure/customize the gnome session on one lappy.   if i'm going to show several different DE's i want them to all have their own unique approach dr_Willis :)
[03:42] <dr_Willis> customize it by removing the heart of it. :)
[03:42] <epimeth> !kde4
[03:43] <dr_Willis> Be sure to toss on Matchbox! and Jwm + rox
[03:43]  * intelikey thought metacity was the heart of gnome
[03:43] <dr_Willis> if you install the openbox package, it will add in 'gnome/openbox' and 'kde/openbox' to the sessions menu. i noticed the other day
[03:43] <dr_Willis> Which is sort of nice.. if you like openbox.. but  it does sort of clutter things.
[03:44] <intelikey> opetions != clutter
[03:44] <intelikey> redundancy of options   now that might constitute clutter
[03:44] <dr_Willis> so what if every window manager added 3 entries to the sessions menu...
[03:45] <dr_Willis> silly jwm dosent even add a entry to the sessions.. so it goes the other extreme.
[03:46] <dr_Willis> last i tried 'matchbox' its entry to the sessions menu dident work. :) it ran the window manager,, and that was it.. so you  had no way to run a terminal, or doing anything.
[03:46] <dr_Willis> I wonder iof thats been fixed.
[03:47] <dr_Willis> brb. :) testing out some other desktops. (Look what you started now!)
[03:48] <CPrgmSwR2> how can I fix the icons on my start menu in kde 4
[03:49] <CPrgmSwR2> they all show up with a ? on them
[03:49] <intelikey> !kde4
[03:49] <intelikey> shorthand for idk
[03:51] <dr_Willis> idk what idk means...
[03:51] <dr_Willis> :P
[03:51] <intelikey> dr_Willis you use ssh a lot as i recall.   do you set a special prompt for ssh sessions ?    i have added this line to all my .bash_bashrc files.
[03:51] <intelikey> [ ! -z "$SSH_CONNECTION" ] && export PS1='\[\033[01;37m\]\l [\u@\h:\w]\[\033[00m\] ' || export PS1='\l [\u@\h.\w]
[03:52] <junior> helllo
[03:52] <dr_Willis> I normally just ssh from one local box to another. Nothing real fancy.
[03:53] <intelikey> actually.  the colour is different on different boxen
[03:53] <junior> ssh? how to user?
[03:53] <dr_Willis> willis@mint:~/bin(34.995 Mb)$   <--- My standard prompt. :)
[03:53] <junior> i don speak english
[03:53] <Jucato> !br | junior
[03:53] <dr_Willis> it auto ads up the file sizes in the current dir. which is handy at times
[03:54] <intelikey> dr_Willis i got tired of working on things on the wrong local box tho  ;/
[03:54] <dr_Willis> I wonder if theres a way to get the konsole tabs to auto rename if one sshs to another box.
[03:54] <MacAnthony> is kde-apps.org down?
[03:54] <intelikey> dr_Willis i'm sure there is.
[03:55] <Jucato> MacAnthony: looks like it
[03:55] <kg> MacAnthony: so is kde-look.org
[03:55] <Jucato> kg: naturally :)
[03:55] <MacAnthony> k, thanks
[03:55] <dr_Willis> I know one can set Xterm titles and stuff with prompt/escape commands. :)
[03:55] <MacAnthony> just wanted to make sure it wasn't my network
[03:55] <junior> the book is on the table
[03:55] <dr_Willis> My whole internet seems laggy tonight
[03:55] <Jucato> *gasp* the internet must be broken!! file a bug report!
[03:56] <intelikey> i've got a full pipe atm
[03:56] <MacAnthony> it can be a problem when you are looking for a file, Jucato
[03:56] <Jucato> MacAnthony: kde-apps? try to see if a Google cache for the exact page exists
[03:56] <intelikey> Jucato :)))    did you crash the internet ?
[03:56] <dr_Willis> I hate it when these kids crash my internets!
[03:56] <Jucato> intelikey: nope. somebody beat me to it...
[03:57] <MacAnthony> too much porn and internet gambling plugging the intertubes tonight
[03:57]  * intelikey posts on bash.org "Jucato hacked the internet again"
[04:00] <dr_Willis> http://bash.org/?search=dr_willis&sort=0&show=25
[04:00] <dr_Willis> :) True boredom - looking for your own nick on bash.org
[04:01] <Jucato> true boredom - offtopic in an on-topic channel ;)
[04:01] <intelikey> :)
[04:01] <intelikey> dr_Willis no fair posting links with & in them.   you know that will fork console
[04:02] <intelikey> and yes i know to quote them...  just didn't catch that one in time.
[04:02] <dr_Willis> never noticed that problem here.
[04:04] <roberto> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 with Kde 4.0. My resolution peaks out at 800x600. I know with the previous version of Kubuntu, I had to specify my monitor. It's an Optiquest Q70. It doesn't pick it out properly. How do I change my monitor type in Kde 4
[04:05] <dr_Willis> Night all.
[04:05] <intelikey> Jucato that one is on topic.  and down your ally
[04:05] <intelikey> ey
[04:06]  * mr---t- wonders if third person comments count as off topic
[04:06] <MacAnthony> Jucato: that was a good idea about google cache, unfortunately the link from the cached page doesn't lead to a cached page and the search results don't list the file download url
[04:06] <MacAnthony> so, close but no cigar
[04:07] <Jucato> roberto: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[04:07] <Jucato> MacAnthony: oh.. too bad :(
[04:08] <roberto> ok, I'll go to Kde Kubuntu, take care and thanks
[04:08] <eagles0513875> under identities how do i set it up to auto log my name in on here
[04:13] <MacAnthony> eagles0513875: I think you just put in the nickserv (if it's not there) and your nick password
[04:14] <MacAnthony> Mine works, but I don't recall the specific steps I took
[04:14] <intelikey> jonathan you first need to register with nickserv   (if you havent)   and then you set it to message nickserv when you logon
[04:18] <intelikey> eagles0513875 very good.
[04:19] <eagles0513875> woooh hitting 42fps with wow in window mode
[04:21] <dilipgarg> I am going to setup Squid on my hardy heron distro. Can i install Squid (as a server) and use for the same computer as a client also? Or do I need a dedicated system for Squid?
[04:22] <dilipgarg> I'll be using squid just for my home use and perhaps two users
[04:23] <intelikey> you know.  squid is one server i have never played with...
[04:24] <dilipgarg> what proxy server do you use then
[04:24] <intelikey> i don't
[04:24] <intelikey> unless you are using the word proxy to refer to a gateway
[04:25] <dilipgarg> uh oh. well, i have seen what happens when you chat on java based chat rooms with none of these anonymous proxy settings.. people just get all the details about your ip address, location.. and what not
[04:26] <dilipgarg> so i am seriously considering methods to sort of anonymize myself during browing online
[04:26] <intelikey> dilipgarg tor ?
[04:26] <intelikey> !tor
[04:28] <dilipgarg> looks good. i am reading its FAQ
[04:28] <Pici> !cloak
[04:31] <dilipgarg> Pici, intelikey: Does that mean looking for cloaks is a better option? though I dont use IRC channels at all apart from the kubuntu chat..
[04:31] <Pici> dilipgarg: Well the cloak is only valid on freenode, so its up to you.
[04:31] <dilipgarg> freenode.. pls explain
[04:31] <intelikey> dilipgarg probably not for "when you chat on java based chat rooms" <<<  irc is not generally java based.
[04:32] <Pici> !freenode
[04:32] <Pici> Anyway, I'm supposed to be asleep
[04:32] <intelikey> Pici go to sleep.
[04:32] <dilipgarg> ah.. then its entirely not helpful to me :)
[04:32] <Pici> ;)
[04:32] <intelikey> :)
[04:32] <dilipgarg> good night Pici
[04:33] <dilipgarg> intelikey: tor still works for anonymizing my internet traffic.. right
[04:34] <intelikey> right
[04:34] <dilipgarg> lovely.
[04:35] <intelikey> dilipgarg what he was pointing out is that some irc servers ban it all togather, while some allow it but specific channels in the system may ban it's use.   so it's not the best aproach for irc in most cases.   however you were not asking about irc in particular so i sujested tor.
[04:36] <dilipgarg> yes, I got that intelikey :)
[04:36] <Nigel> hi goodnight
[04:36] <dilipgarg> thanks again for the explanation
[04:36] <intelikey> you bet.
[04:36] <dilipgarg> hehe
[04:36] <Nigel> I have a problem with my installation of mysql and apache , can anyone help ?
[04:38] <intelikey> Nigel i can point at the wiki  but that's about it.
[04:38] <intelikey> !lamp
[04:38] <Nigel> I think a more pertinent issue is that..
[04:38] <Nigel> I think I've messed things up.. is there any way I can just get everything out and start over..
[04:39] <intelikey> apt-get remove --purge
[04:39] <Nigel> i've done that..
[04:39] <Nigel> but now that i re install
[04:39] <Nigel> aka
[04:39] <Nigel> apt-get install mysql apache2
[04:40] <Nigel> There isn't /etc/init.d/apache2 or mysql..
[04:40] <intelikey> Nigel did the setup process error out ?     sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:41] <Alucard_Hellsing> k i still cant install firefox 3
[04:41] <Nigel> nope , no errors..
[04:41] <Alucard_Hellsing> when i  sudo apt-get install firefox i get    Setting up firefox (2.0.0.16+1nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10)
[04:42] <intelikey> Nigel   dpkg -l | grep apache2
[04:42] <Nigel> I've done it...
[04:42] <Nigel> But what does that do ?
[04:43] <intelikey> lists package state
[04:43] <intelikey> if they start with    ii  you are ok.
[04:43] <Nigel> would you like to see the output ?
[04:43] <intelikey> do they all start with   ii   ?
[04:44] <Nigel> yep
[04:44] <Nigel> they all start with ii
[04:44] <intelikey> then no.
[04:44] <intelikey> ok have a look at this one.     dpkg -L apache2-common | grep init.d
[04:45] <Nigel> well..its executed , but there's no output
[04:45] <intelikey> Nigel ok.   there was an    apache2-common   in the previous list.
[04:45] <intelikey> ?
[04:46] <intelikey> there was apache2-common in the first list though ?
[04:46] <Nigel> apache2.2 common
[04:47] <intelikey> ok use that package name in the second command
[04:47] <intelikey> mine is not 2.2 so...  ;/
[04:47] <Nigel> still no output
[04:48] <Nigel> for the command
[04:48] <intelikey> well there is the problem.  apache*-common is supposed to install the init script
[04:48] <Nigel> dpkg -l apache2.2-common | grep init.d
[04:48] <intelikey>    ^
[04:48] <intelikey> not -l   -L
[04:48] <intelikey> case sensitive
[04:48] <Nigel> oh..
[04:49] <Nigel> oh ..there's an output now...
[04:49] <intelikey> shows the init svript ?
[04:49] <Nigel> and its
[04:49] <Nigel> yes
[04:49] <Nigel> can I do the same I've done here for mysql ?
[04:49] <intelikey> ok.  you can use force reinstall to get it to extract that script from the package.
[04:49] <intelikey> yes you can
[04:50] <dilipgarg> duh. after installing tor my internet traffic is anonymous but i cant logon to that java based chat room at all..
[04:50] <dilipgarg> access denied :)
[04:50] <Nigel> how do I force re-install ?
[04:50] <intelikey> Nigel   sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common     and see if the init script doesn't appear in /etc/init.d/
[04:51] <intelikey> dilipgarg they may block tor ?
[04:51] <Nigel> lemme check for it now
[04:51] <dilipgarg> intelikey: yea, it could be the case
[04:51] <intelikey> dilipgarg or you may have not configured something right ?
[04:51]  * intelikey ducks
[04:52] <Nigel> intelikey , the file is not there..
[04:52] <dilipgarg> nopes, my ip address has changed from 66.. to 88..
[04:52] <intelikey> Nigel ok.  that would be a bug in the package.
[04:53] <Nigel> i see..
[04:53] <intelikey> Nigel i would sujest opening that package and manually extracting the init script as a work around.
[04:53] <Nigel> where are the packages stored after they are downloaded ?
[04:53] <intelikey> Nigel do you use "mc" ?    it's really handy for things like that
[04:53] <Nigel> I don't.. what is it ?
[04:53] <intelikey> Nigel /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:54] <intelikey> !info mc
[04:54] <dilipgarg> intelikey: just checked. i can still log on to the other java based chat room.. but not the first one. I guess all of the people there are super duper hackers!
[04:54] <Nigel> sudo apt-get install mc ?
[04:54] <intelikey> cli based file manager with builtin features for handling many file types
[04:54] <intelikey> Nigel i would.
[04:55] <Nigel> intelikey , I've installed it...
[04:55] <intelikey> especally useful for copying out a single file from a .deb
[04:56] <intelikey> Nigel   sudo mc    navigate to the package  and to /etc/init.d in the other tab  then get the script out of the package by decending into it as if it was just a dir.
[04:57] <Nigel> k , lemme try that
[04:57] <fulat2k> eekk... now my usb devices aren't detected...
[04:57] <fulat2k> any idea what's wrong?
[04:57] <fulat2k> i can't see from /var/log/messages it's detected by the kernel.  somehow kde's daemon isn't automounting it
[04:58] <Nigel> Its in apache2.2-common right ?
[04:59] <intelikey> Nigel yep
[05:00] <Nigel> its worked !
[05:00] <intelikey> Nigel of course.    now please file a bug report on that package.
[05:00] <intelikey> !bug
[05:00] <intelikey> cause it needs fixed.
[05:01] <Nigel> I will..
[05:01] <Nigel> but I have more problems I believe..
[05:01] <Nigel> foremost , how am I going to wake up in 2 hours...
[05:01] <Nigel> and more importantly..
[05:02] <Nigel> I forgot my password for mysql..
[05:02] <Nigel> Will uninstalling with a -purge then installing again allow me to reset my password ?
[05:03] <silvia> Hey guys. Can anyone help me? I'm following the steps on the wifidocs how-to to get my broadcom wireless working under the ndiswrapper. One of the steps involves checking /etc/iftab but my distro (ubuntu hardy with kde) doesn't seem to have it. Am I missing something?
[05:04] <MacAnthony> Nigel: http://mirror.yandex.ru/mirrors/ftp.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-unix
[05:04] <dilipgarg> silvia: isnt there an alternative for kde version of kubuntu, for that instruction specifically?
[05:04] <Nigel> and what about phpmyadmin
[05:05] <Nigel> last but not least..
[05:05] <MacAnthony> what about it?
[05:05] <Nigel> well
[05:05] <MacAnthony> to install it?
[05:05] <silvia> If there is it's not mentioned... I hoped someone could tell me one :-)
[05:05] <Nigel> I installed it
[05:05] <Nigel> and I found the folder where it was..
[05:05] <silvia> I'm supposed to be checking for the existence of an entry for wlan0
[05:05] <Nigel> and then i moved it to /var/www/
[05:05] <Nigel> and it worked..
[05:05] <MacAnthony> ok
[05:05] <Nigel> but i never got in to check to see if its working..
[05:06] <dilipgarg> silvia: checking
[05:06] <Nigel> is what I done there right ?
[05:06] <MacAnthony> so you connect to localhost/<phpMyAdminDir>
[05:06] <Nigel> yes..
[05:07] <MacAnthony> not sure if you have to change the phpMyAdmin config as I have never installed the package from the ubuntu .deb
[05:07]  * intelikey takes a much needed break    "FOOD"
[05:07] <Nigel> hmm..
[05:08] <MacAnthony> what happens when you run phpMyAdmin?
[05:08] <Nigel> well..
[05:08] <Nigel> everything starts as it should..
[05:08] <Nigel> but I haven't been able to get in..
[05:08] <Nigel> (lost password)
[05:08] <Nigel> to see if it really works
[05:08] <MacAnthony> ok, follow the link I sent before
[05:08] <MacAnthony> http://mirror.yandex.ru/mirrors/ftp.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-unix
[05:09] <Nigel> Already there..
[05:09] <Nigel> thanks
[05:10] <MacAnthony> by default, I don't think it uses a password though
[05:10] <MacAnthony> hmm
[05:10] <MacAnthony> not sure
[05:10] <MacAnthony> mine has a password
[05:12] <dilipgarg> silvia: it's here /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[05:13] <MacAnthony> what broadcom driver? I just installed bcm43xx-fwcutter package to get mine to work
[05:18] <silvia> MacAnthony: I used to use fwcutter, but I got very frustrated over many issues (abysmal connection speed, frequent drops, disconnecting and not reconnecting...) so I decided to 'downgrade' it to a ndiswrapper solution
[05:19] <silvia> dilipgarg: Thanks! I'll try it"
[05:19] <dilipgarg> you are welcome
[05:21] <HaSH> hello all. im having issues with setting up wpa2 on kubuntu 8.04
[05:21] <HaSH> under systemsettings>network> there is no option to set a wpa key only wep....
[05:22] <HaSH> !wpa
[05:22] <MacAnthony> WiCD supports wpa
[05:23] <HaSH> i have the knetwork manager installed...but i dont have any wireless options in there
[05:23] <HaSH> what is WiCD MacAnthony
[05:23] <HaSH> !wicd
[05:24] <MacAnthony> wicd is an alternative network manager
[05:24] <HaSH> i JUST installed kubuntu.....wpa worked flawlessly on mandriva 2008.1
[05:24] <intelikey> !info wicd
[05:24] <HaSH> :(
[05:24] <MacAnthony> I started using it a while ago since in Fiesty, I couldn't get knetwork manager to list available wireless networks
[05:25] <HaSH> E: Couldn't find package wircd
[05:25] <MacAnthony> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[05:25] <MacAnthony> there is a repository you can add from there
[05:25] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:25] <HaSH> oh bah. i dont want to compile and install it!
[05:25] <MacAnthony> you don't have to compile it
[05:25] <HaSH> i wonder why wpa support is so bad in kubuntu.....
[05:26] <intelikey> insecure
[05:26] <HaSH> wpa is?.
[05:26] <HaSH> or wpa2 to be exact
[05:26] <intelikey> so i hear
[05:26] <HaSH> wpa2 is WAY more secure then wep
[05:26] <jack48> more secure
[05:27] <HaSH> so without using 3rd party repos or compiling from source...im out of luck?...
[05:27] <HaSH> knetwork manager only has options for wired. not wireless
[05:27] <jack48> then use term
[05:28] <jack48> iwconfig iwlist etc
[05:28] <intelikey> HaSH i think there is a native solution,   but i don't know it.   did you visit the wifi page ?
[05:28] <HaSH> yea. ive looked it over...it only says to use knetwork manager
[05:28] <HaSH> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[05:29] <HaSH> not trying to flame....but on mandriva 2008.1....it was very simple...all i had to do was select wpa/wpa2 from a drop down menu and enter my key.....
[05:30] <bob3213243_> Hey, for some reason my mute button on my laptop stopped working. It pops up and says it muted but it doesn't adjust the volume settings at all. I can go to the mixer and mute it or turn it down. So I'm thinking there is a disconnect between the volume button software and the actual volume.
[05:30] <HaSH> and i figured since kubuntu is such a user friendly distro...it would be just as easy...if not more.
[05:32] <intelikey> HaSH http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant   ???
[05:35] <HaSH> ill look it over
[05:41] <HaSH> i still cant get this wpa to work :(
[05:44] <Nigel> MacAnthony , I've gone through the entire instruction..and hte passwords haven't changed
[05:44] <z0d14k> I earlier versions of kubuntu, I used ksynaptic, but can't find it in Hardy.  Is it out there or is there a replacement for it now?
[05:45] <z0d14k> I want to stop the accidental clicks and drags on my touchpad.
[05:46] <z0d14k> I found drag sensitivity in the settings, but it would be pretty convenient if I could stop the accidental clicks.
[05:54] <gkffjcs> hi all, If I am in a bash prompt and quickly want to find out what the free/total space is on the partiton that the current directory is on how do I do that?
[05:54] <HaSH> gkffjcs: df
[05:55] <HaSH> df -h is what i normally use
[05:56] <gkffjcs> thanks!
[05:58] <gkffjcs> what about if I want to know how large a directory is? essentially the total size for all the files in it and it's subdirs combined?
[05:58] <intelikey> du
[05:59] <intelikey> if all you want is the pwd    du -sh
[06:01] <gkffjcs> thanks. df didn't work for ftpfs so Ille have to use the du trick insted i guess.
[06:02] <intelikey> df -ha      maybe
[06:02] <intelikey> note  df == disk free      du == disk usage
[06:03] <gkffjcs> ah, thanks!
[06:03] <gkffjcs> no, that didn't work right, it says I have 1000 gig and 7.5T which is retarded.
[06:04] <HaSH> bah. wpa and kubuntu have HORRIBLE support.
[06:05] <gkffjcs> one of the ftp volumes is the h drive for my university, I have a limit of 50mb but it's possible that the actual drive is 7.5T is there a way to get my current disk quota?
[06:06] <intelikey> gkffjcs umm yeah.   but i don't know it.
[06:06] <gkffjcs> allright, no biggie.
[06:07] <Kraplax> hi guys
[06:07] <Kraplax> i installed qtparted and tried to launch it, but it only complains about "qtparted: cannot connect to X server :0.0"
[06:08] <Kraplax> Kubuntu 8.04 KDE3.5.9
[06:08] <Kraplax> what should i do?
[06:16] <gkffjcs> can you hard link a directory on ext3? I keep getting hard link not allowed for directory. This link is on the same fs so that shouldn't be the problem.
[06:17] <intelikey> gkffjcs hardlinking dirs in general is not a good idea
[06:17] <intelikey> you can symlink them
[06:18] <gkffjcs> what I want to do is mount a second file system over a dir and then still gain access to it via the hard link with I have read should be possible.
[06:18] <intelikey> gkffjcs short answer "no."    long answer is "it's very complicated but is possable"
[06:18] <intelikey> gkffjcs why not use unionfs ?
[06:19] <intelikey> yo can mount on a dir and still access it's inodes as well as the newly mounted fs
[06:19] <Kernel> hmm i now have wireless options in knetwork manager..but its not letting me set a static ip
[06:19] <gkffjcs> what is unionfs? sounds like it might be helpful
[06:20] <intelikey> !info unionfs-utils
[06:20] <intelikey> !find unionfs
[06:21] <intelikey> !info unionfs-tools
[06:21] <gkffjcs> nice! thanks!
[06:23] <intelikey> welcome
[06:23] <gkffjcs> unionfs -h
[06:23] <gkffjcs> whoops
[06:25] <intelikey> heh.   /exec unionfs -h     "might" have worked   :)))
[06:27] <intelikey> although gkffjcs it's generally a better idea to use    man <command>     than ramdomly testing the -h switch on things youre not familear with.     -h  is  --help in some things  but it's not in all thing.
[06:28] <intelikey> hehhe    for q in /*bin/* ;do $q -h ;done      :S
[06:28] <gkffjcs> yeah, but it's garanteed in any fuse file system though, so safe bet
[06:29] <Barvinok> how to enter Administrator Mode for System Settings applet in KDE4? There's no such button as per documentation.
[06:29] <intelikey> Barvinok might be better to ask in the kde4 support channel.
[06:29] <intelikey> !kde4
[06:30] <Barvinok> ok, thanks
[06:31] <|Blah|> well i cannot figure out how to do wpa + knetworkmanager + static ip...so for now i guess i can have my router give me the ip using thismac addy.
[06:32] <intelikey> hmmm is the count right ?    24951 packages in hardy now ?
[06:33] <intelikey> !find .*
[06:33] <intelikey> guess it is....
[06:34] <silvia> So.. I've been fiddling with ndiswrapper but I can't seem to get it working... it absolutely refuses to recognize my hardware even though the driver is already installed... I'm at a loss at what to do. Anyone has experience in it? By the way... it's a broadcom (surprise, surprise...)
[06:35]  * intelikey wonders if he can even get his atheros wifi card working in dapper...
[06:38] <silvia> intelikey: I've ssen stuff on atheros cards including dapper... I'm pretty sure but I can't quote off the top of my head where I saw it... I've been swimming through wireless how-tos like mad this past week
[06:41] <intelikey> silvia ah  thanks for the heads up.       i may go see what i can find.    i have not yet ever tried to get it to work.   no wireless network here.
[06:45] <ZeroOP> so i have a question, how do i make konqueror go away?
[06:45] <ZeroOP> i've tried the Add/Remove Programs thing
[06:46] <ZeroOP> but it's still popping up O.0
[06:46] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[06:46] <ZeroOP> ahh right, thanks
[06:46] <ZeroOP> <--- new to Linux/Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[06:46]  * intelikey whaches his kde-core go with it....
[06:47] <intelikey> watches
[06:48] <ZeroOP> i'm in that process of debating between KDE and Gnome
[06:48] <intelikey> ZeroOP one good idea,   sudo apt-get install xterm twm    first.   so if you happen to take down the wrong package you should still have a gui    "of sorts"   to fix it from
[06:49] <ZeroOP> hmm, intresting
[06:49] <ZeroOP> kk <3
[06:49] <ZeroOP> i have no idea what yer talking about but it's a good idea to have a backup
[06:49] <intelikey> yep
[06:50] <ZeroOP> <--- Linux Noob.
[06:50] <ZeroOP> i've lived on windows my whole life
[06:50] <intelikey> there are many desktop environments avalable in linux   you are not limited to "kde and gnome"
[06:50] <ZeroOP> lol
[06:50] <ZeroOP> the last thing i want right now is to be confused
[06:50] <ZeroOP> ;)
[06:51] <kg> ZeroOP: you can install both gnome and KDE onto the same linux setup, and try them both at the same time
[06:51] <chipbuddy> i've had some really bad experiences with the ati restricted drivers. so i don't want to turn them on. But my interface is really sluggish... is there any way i can get my gui to run smoother? this is all without desktop effects
[06:51] <kg> ZeroOP: you know, being in the *K*ubuntu channel of course you'll get people encouraging you to use KDE :P
[06:51] <intelikey> blackbox fluxbox icewm icewm95 openbox windowmaker jwm twm fvwm xfce4 enlightenment#   just to name a few of them.
[06:52] <chipbuddy> intelikey: was that for me?
[06:52] <intelikey> chipbuddy no.  @ ZeroOP
[06:52] <ZeroOP> i know
[06:52] <ZeroOP> i'm running Gnome also
[06:53] <ZeroOP> in this install
[06:53] <ZeroOP> :)
[06:53] <intelikey> chipbuddy using the vesa driver ?
[06:53] <ZeroOP> i'm in the #ubuntu channel too ;)
[06:53] <intelikey> !enter | ZeroOP especally in the other channel
[06:54] <kg> ZeroOP: lol good luck deciding
[06:54] <chipbuddy> intelikey: i don't think so, how do i tell?
[06:54] <ZeroOP> thank you
[06:54] <intelikey> chipbuddy   grep vesa /etc/X11/xorg.*
[06:54] <ZeroOP> i'm trying not to, i have a bad habbit of many short lines
[06:54] <kg> ZeroOP: i would say one thing - KDE is very configurable - you can make it behave like windows, or macs, or like gnome
[06:55] <chipbuddy> intelikey nothing
[06:55] <intelikey> chipbuddy then you probably arent.
[06:55] <ZeroOP> i'm noticing that, i'm also seeing it defaults to look at like vista ;)
[06:56] <chipbuddy> intelikey: hmm... synaptic says i have xserver-xorg-video-vesa and vga installed
[06:56] <intelikey> chipbuddy you might try it.  but i'm not sure it will help you any.      i only have one ati vidio and it doesn't like    well anything really.  not the propritary nor the free drivers...
[06:56] <intelikey> chipbuddy yeah installed != in use tho
[06:56] <chipbuddy> intelikey: so what do you do? just live with slow and choppy windows?
[06:56] <kg> ZeroOP: the more fancy looks is more for KDE 4 -- but for stability purposes, i still recommend KDE 3
[06:56] <intelikey> chipbuddy heh i use the console  lol
[06:56] <justin_> ey
[06:57] <kg> ZeroOP: but of course, if you want to be adventurous, i highly recommend you play around with KDE 4.1 when it gets released end of this month. it's pretty cool
[06:57] <chipbuddy> intelikey i never quite got that... how do you use the internet?
[06:57] <chipbuddy> intelikey for example read fark
[06:57] <intelikey> chipbuddy those that know me know that i go many days without even starting a gui.     like on this box right now.   no gui.
[06:58] <justin_> im back
[06:58] <ZeroOP> i'm on whatever it downloaded when i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <ZeroOP> lol
[06:58] <ZeroOP> which is what someone on the other channel told me to do when i said i wanted kde.
[06:58] <ZeroOP> ok
[06:58] <chipbuddy> intelikey: i'm jealous. i'm not quite at that point yet.
[06:59] <ZeroOP> one thing i liked about gnome was the control-alt-arrow changed desktops.
[06:59] <Kernel> hello all...am i crazy or is xmms not availible anymore?
[06:59] <Kernel> xmms does not exist..and xmms2 doesnt seem to be xmms...
[06:59] <Jucato> Kernel: you're not crazy. xmms is no longer developed
[06:59] <Kernel> i know
[07:00] <Jucato> so yes, it's not available in the repos anymore
[07:00] <Kernel> but it should still be availible to me
[07:00] <Kernel> that sucks.
[07:00] <chipbuddy> why are there such problems with graphics cards? because the vendors won't open the drivers?
[07:00] <Kernel> xmms is my fav..and im aware of ALL the other players.
[07:00] <intelikey> ZeroOP that is the most common advice.   "install the *buntu-desktop package"   but there are other meta packages that are often more what the costumor wants.    both  gnome and kde meta packages give a more pure "gnome" or pure "kde" experance than the *buntu-desktop that gets sujested.
[07:00] <Kernel> but ive been using xmms for 5 freaking years and would like to continue too
[07:00] <Kernel> :(
[07:00] <kg> ZeroOP: if you're on 8.04, you should be on KDE 3... you can configure hot keys in KDE 3 too, but that's up to you to decide if it's worth the trouble :)
[07:01] <kg> ZeroOP: actually, i believe KDE 3 have their own keystrokes to switch desktops
[07:01] <intelikey> Kernel when that happens in linux   normally the person picks up the source and "forks" it.
[07:01] <ZeroOP> i know mouse wheel on empty desktop does it
[07:01] <ZeroOP> but i'm never at empty dekstop
[07:02] <Kernel> yea. i know....but ive never seen a distro just drop it.
[07:02] <Kernel> they still over it....
[07:02] <Kernel> *offer
[07:02] <Jucato> ZeroOP: you can add a keyboard shortcut like that in KDE
[07:02] <Kernel> this is a huge disapointment for me
[07:03] <intelikey> Kernel also of note.   an older .deb of xmms would probably install and work on your newer system.   if you want to go there.
[07:03] <Kernel> i do!
[07:03] <ZeroOP> thanks all for the help
[07:04] <ZeroOP> i'm goning to be playing around with KDE/Gnome for a couple days :)   but now it's bed time
[07:04] <intelikey> it's not "recommended"   so you are on your own with it.   but  think it will work ok
[07:04] <Kernel> intelikey: where could i even find a old deb for it?
[07:04] <intelikey> !packages
[07:04] <intelikey> check the link   ^
[07:04] <kg> ZeroOP: you're welcome - i hope you find the one you like the most
[07:04] <ZeroOP> thank you!
[07:04] <ZeroOP> good night!
[07:04] <Kernel> all i see is xmms2 stuff
[07:05] <intelikey> you are in hardy.  go to edgy
[07:05] <Kernel> ah duhhh...
[07:05] <Kernel> my bad
[07:05] <intelikey> or even older
[07:06] <Kernel> is there a good reason why xmms has been abolished?
[07:06] <intelikey> one other thing i might point out.   you may have to mark that package as "hold" to keep the updates from removing it for you.
[07:06] <Kernel> ie....lots of known vulns
[07:07] <Kernel> yea. im a die hard xmms fan lol.......none of the other players feel right ;)
[07:07] <intelikey> that i don't know.    but not developed   i.e. no support at all. not even if it does have bugs/security holes...
[07:07] <Kernel> yea
[07:08] <Kernel> anyways...if i am getting up for work in the am i need to goto bed
[07:08] <Kernel> thanks for the helps guys
[07:08] <intelikey> welcome
[07:08] <silvia> Folks... using ndiswrapper -a (device number) should force ndiswrapper to recognize it as the hardware and, therefore, make it show up in ndiswrapper -l, right? or not?
[07:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> hmm
[07:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> there we go
[07:11] <spiel_mit_feuer> got my name back
[07:18] <intelikey> if i have a system that is mounted "nosuid" and the root account is locked, how can i gain root access ?
[07:21] <roberto> alguien sabe como entrar al canal del mirc ????????????
[07:22] <intelikey> /join <blah>
[07:25] <silvia> Folks... using ndiswrapper -a (device number) should force ndiswrapper to recognize it as the hardware and, therefore, make it show up in ndiswrapper -l, right? or not?
[07:43] <gukkels> Hi! Can anyone give me link on something like "STEP-BY-STEP HOWTO - how to tranfer existing ubuntu on new larger drive"? I suspect it is trivial task, but I found nothing on google.
[07:49] <jussi01> gukkels: you just want to do a straight copy across?
[07:50] <jussi01> gukkels: something like this? http://encodable.com/tech/blog/2006/10/30/Ubuntu_Linux_Hard_Drive_Upgrade
[07:50] <gukkels> I partitioned new disk, and made the copy of my old hard. But it seems that there are some tricks need to be done. After I boot from new HD my root fs become r/o.
[07:51] <jussi01> gukkels: have a look at the link I gave you :)
[07:51] <intelikey> make a linux filesystem  on the disk     mke2fs -Cj /dev/sdb1      mount the disk    mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt    copy the data over      tar --one-file-system -cf - / | tar -xf - -C /mnt        edit your fstab accordingly  and reinstall grub for the new system.
[07:52] <intelikey> short example    ^
[07:52]  * jussi01 hugs intelikey
[07:52] <gukkels> Yes, it looks so.
[07:53] <gukkels> intelikey, yes, also I changed uuids in fstab, edited grub's config, but root fs remains r/o. It confuses me.
[07:53] <intelikey> did you reinstall grub ?
[07:53] <gukkels> intelikey, sure.
[07:54] <intelikey> you may even need to rebuild the initramfs image
[07:54] <intelikey> i think i have ran into that too
[07:54] <gukkels> intelikey, Oh. Where I can read about this?
[07:55] <intelikey> gukkels simple fix for working with the new system    mount -o remount,rw /          and as to your Q  man mkinitramfs
[07:55] <intelikey> but you probably need to make sure that / is the new disk and not the old one.
[07:56] <intelikey> cat /proc/mounts   should help there
[07:57] <intelikey> gukkels also if your copy process was successful   you can just mount the new root over the old one for working on it.
[07:57] <intelikey> better populate /dev first tho
[07:58] <intelikey> that was kind of an after thought... word to the wise.
[07:58] <intelikey>            hey   nice bug   OSF.8759
[07:59] <intelikey> http://encodable.com/tech/blog/2006/10/30/Ubuntu_Linux_Hard_Drive_Upgrade
[07:59] <gukkels> Thanks to all, gone read docs and make experiments
[07:59]  * gukkels  gone read docs and make experiments
[08:09] <intelikey> from the official ubuntu docs   "If you are going to trade files in a Windows world, you'll need to scan those fies for viruses. You won't get infected, but you may help infect someone else."     excuse me.  when i used windows it was my responsability to check what i put on it and keep virii out.   so why is it now my responsability to keep other peoples boxen clean.   let them progect their own OS like i was told to!
[08:09] <intelikey> protect even
[08:11] <sea4ever> Does Wine naturally have low FPS?
[08:11] <intelikey> source   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Linuxvirus
[08:12] <baudthief> sea4ever: runs fine for me
[08:12] <sea4ever> hrm. Maybe Wine needs something
[08:12] <intelikey> ferment ?
[08:12] <intelikey> bad joke.
[08:13] <baudthief> intelikey: you're fired :p
[08:13] <intelikey> :(
[08:14] <baudthief> sea4ever: you're also fired :P
[08:15]  * baudthief fucks off appropriately
[08:23] <sea4ever> Ah,found the problem. I think.
[08:25] <dsmith_> superkaramba is a crap package
[08:25] <dsmith_> intelikey fired? The horror
[08:26] <dsmith_> 0309:22 good point!
[08:47] <silvia_> Hey folks... I could still use a hand. After fighting an epic battle with ndiswrapper I finally got it recognizing my hardware (or so I think...) but now iwconfig shows no wlan0... therefore I can't really use it... any ideas or tips? Btw... I'm trying to use ndis because fwcutter isn't really an option it's slow to a halt and drops frequently.
[08:48] <zxy_64> what about wpa_supplicant
[08:52] <silvia_> zxy_64: that was to me?
[08:59] <silvia_> guess not...
[09:12] <incorrect> hello,  I am trying to locate how i can configure which apps are loaded at session start
[09:15] <silvia_> Hey folks... I could still use a hand. After fighting an epic battle with ndiswrapper I finally got it recognizing my hardware (or so I think...) but now iwconfig shows no wlan0... therefore I can't really use it... any ideas or tips? Btw... I'm trying to use ndis because fwcutter isn't really an option it's slow to a halt and drops frequently.
[09:15] <jussi01> !autostart | incorrect
[09:17] <XenThraL> Hi, I'm having trouble installing my nvidia driver
[09:17] <XenThraL> how do I get the restricted drivers manager to do it for me?
[09:17] <kg-away> !nvidia
[09:17] <XenThraL> ty
[09:17] <kg-away> that might help :) if you still have questions just ask
[09:19] <XenThraL> yeah
[09:19] <XenThraL> it doesnt appear on the list
[09:19] <kg-away> your card?
[09:19] <XenThraL> this is very odd, everything was fine until a few days ago
[09:19] <XenThraL> no on the 'hardware drivers' list
[09:19] <XenThraL> theres nothing
[09:20] <kg-away> what card are you using?
[09:20] <mcw>  I am trying to setup a home studio does anyone know a reasonably priced audio interface thas supports asio
[09:21] <XenThraL> quadro fx 1400
[09:21] <mcw> I am using ubuntu studio
[09:21] <jussi01> mcw: m-audio stuff is good
[09:21] <mcw> ok
[09:21] <mcw> is e-mu any good
[09:21] <mcw> they seem comparable
[09:22] <mcw> but on there home page it doesnt look like they support asio
[09:22] <XenThraL> I managed to get it working with the nvidia-glx-new-envy driver
[09:22] <jussi01> mcw: Id suggest asking the ubuntu studio mailing list - they will know and give good recomendations
[09:22] <mcw> ok
[09:22] <XenThraL> except that every single 3D program segfaulted when it exited
[09:23] <mcw> hammerfall is too expensive but I know they work
[09:24] <zxy_64> silvia_: yes, that was to you
[09:24] <XenThraL> kg-away: any ideas why its not on the list?
[09:25] <kg-away> XenThraL: you're sure that you're using the nvidia drivers? can you use compiz etc?
[09:25] <XenThraL> well at the moment I'm using 'nv'
[09:26] <XenThraL> cause nvidia-xgl-new just crashes on boot
[09:26] <XenThraL> and nvidia-xgl-new-envy crashes with 3D programs
[09:26] <kg-away> XenThraL: that would be why - you need to change that to "nvidia", because nv is the open source driver without 3D
[09:26] <silvia_> zxy_64: oh... tell me more.
[09:26] <XenThraL> I just changed it back to nv, from nvidia
[09:26] <kg-away> XenThraL: ohh i see i just got it lol sorry
[09:26] <XenThraL> np
[09:26] <XenThraL> any idea why it doesn't appear on the restricted drivers list?
[09:27] <silvia_> zxy_64: because ubuntu defaulted to using fwcutter which was disastrous... the only alternative I knew was ndis... and I think I actually got around it...
[09:27] <kg-away> XenThraL: no idea - but the closed-source driver does support your card - it's on NVidia's website
[09:27] <silvia_> zxy_64: only problem is something is still off...
[09:28] <silvia_> zxy_64: for instance... wlan0 isn't showing in iwconfig
[09:29] <silvia_> zxy_64: and I'm not savvy enough to hammer it back into working... right now I'm bridging my other laptop's wireless connection to use it wired in this one.
[09:29] <kg-away> XenThraL: pastebin your xorg.conf and the log of xorg the next time you boot into 'nvidia'... i dunno if I can help, but i'm willing to try
[09:29] <XenThraL> ok
[09:29] <XenThraL> going to restart X then
[09:29] <XenThraL> oh just quick question
[09:29] <XenThraL> which driver should I install anyways - the one with 'envy' on the name or just glx-new ?
[09:31] <kg-away> XenThraL: i have no idea - it really depends on your system. usually though, i depend on the envyng utility to choose for me
[09:31] <XenThraL> envyng?
[09:31] <kg-away> XenThraL: but even so I've even seen envyng mess up before (though much rarer)
[09:32] <XenThraL> unsure what envyng is?
[09:32] <XenThraL> the restricted driver thingy?
[09:32] <kg-away> XenThraL: it's a tool that helps you install proprietry graphics driver
[09:32] <XenThraL> yeah just saw it in the package list
[09:32] <XenThraL> hell gonna give that a try
[09:32] <kg-away> XenThraL: ok - tell me how it goes
[09:34] <XenThraL> yeah it picked the envy ones
[09:38] <mcw> how do you make pages go up in flames when you close them
[09:38] <zxy_64> silvia_: my wireless card didnt work with anything else but wpa_supplicant did it immediately,   try to find some howto on the net
[09:41] <drbobb> !kde4
[09:59] <silvia_> Well... now that I've broken my interfaces... how can I repair them? I mean... getting it back to it's pristine original state so that I can try to wreck them some more? :-)
[10:01] <schumbi> easiest way is to rename .kde  but than all other settings are gone too
[10:02] <silvia_> Oh... sorry... I mean network interfaces... particularly wireless... thanks though :-)
[10:04] <schumbi> silvia_: :-) are you using the knetworkmanager?
[10:08] <silvia_> well.. it's running but I'm using the console to do my damage :-)
[10:13] <schumbi> perhaps you may try ifdown to shut down and ifup to start it again   or did you use iconfig to change the hardare parameters?
[10:13] <schumbi> silvia_: hardware
[10:14] <silvia_> schumbi: I think I might have used it during one of the howtos........ :-)
[10:15] <silvia_> schumbi: any way to revert it considering I have no idea what I did 26 hours ago when I started the trip into ndiswrapper land?
[10:18] <schumbi> silvia_: are you connected to an ap and is transmission possible? perhaps something like ping 192.168.1.1 ?
[10:19] <silvia_> schumbi: not really. I'm indirectly connected to an ap, so it doesn't really count. I'm connected through my wired, to another laptop which is bridging it's wireless connection.
[10:20] <schumbi> silvia_: i would try to set all parameters to "auto" eg. iwconfig ath0 auto
[10:20] <schumbi> silvia_: sounds funny ;-)
[10:21] <silvia_> schumbi: It was a desperate idea... hehe... Actually right now kdenetworkmanager doesn't really see my wireless interface right now. I'll try the iwconfig auto right now.
[10:22] <schumbi> silvia_: perhaps your network essid is hidden?
[10:22] <jamal> hi all
[10:23] <eagles0513875> hi
[10:23] <schumbi> silvia_: i configred my wireless while i opend my ap    means, no encryption, no hidding of the essid and no mac filtering
[10:23] <schumbi> hi eagles0513875
[10:23] <silvia_> schumbi: iwconfig gave me an unknown command error. The essid isn't really hidden, that much I'm sure, the other laptop can see it fine. The problem really is that knm doesn't really see anything wireless wise
[10:25] <schumbi> silvia_: you are sure that your essid isn't hidden? your other laptop may know what it should look after
[10:25] <schumbi> silvia_: with iwlist  you are able to determine your parameters
[10:26] <silvia_> schumbi: only kind of blocking I have is WPA encryption... but if we get that far I can disable it :-) Nope... it isn't hidden, I'm pretty sure... and anyway, there are about 5 other network aps around here that come on and off frequently in the radar and none of them are showing right now.
[10:26] <schumbi> silvia_: that aounds some kind of strange to me
[10:28] <silvia_> schumbi: I can assure you it's all kinds of strange... that's why I wanted something that resetted interfaces to their original settings.
[10:28] <schumbi> silvia_: have you tried to reinstall knm?
[10:29] <silvia_> schumbi: don't really think that will help... see iwconfig doesn't even list a wlan0... I really think it's deeper down... but if you think it will help
[10:30] <schumbi> silvia_: perhaps it is named ath0 or so?
[10:31] <silvia_> nope..
[10:32] <silvia_> schumbi: nope, I got eht0 and lo... both not registering anything
[10:33] <schumbi> si
[10:33] <schumbi> silvia_: it sounds that there is no driver, your kernel doesn't know how to work with your card
[10:34] <schumbi> silvia_: whats the name of your wireless chip?
[10:35] <silvia_> it's a broadcom bcm94311 and yes... I've blacklisted every possible driver ubuntu would throw at me. I needed it in order to get ndiswrapper working...
[10:35] <silvia_> schumbi: thing is... it only recognized the hardware now... and still not working :-P
[10:36] <schumbi> silvia_: what das iwconfig show you?
[10:37] <silvia_> schumbi: I sent it pvt not to flood the channel
[10:37] <schumbi> well thanks :-)
[10:38] <silvia_> schumbi: no problema! =)
[10:46] <eagles0513875> im having issues with flash nonfree version 9 lol
[10:54] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with some flash issues im having
[10:57] <sns>  I want to create the default look on KDE and then use kiosktool or something similar to lock it down so that user can't change it anymore. This is KDE 3. Can anyone help?
[11:00] <schumbi> well i should work  bye
[11:07] <sns> Anyone experienced with making default profiles for KDE? I need help doing a real simple profile where all modifications are - remove everything from taskbar except firefox icon, set screensaver, set a desktop icon
[11:15] <sns> How can I disable right click in KDE? I want it disabled completely to deny user access to right click menus
[11:17] <kg> sns: wow what kind of users is your client expecting? you're locking to system to browsing-only?
[11:18] <sns> kg, it's getting locked down to browsing only
[11:18] <sns> and we've got no idea what might be using this. it's public terminals
[11:19] <sns> I would just use some "surf only" live cd thing if it wasn't for other custom requirements
[11:19] <sns> such as printing
[11:19] <kg> sns: i see - i haven't used kde 3 in ages, so i doubt i can help you here
[11:19] <sns> can it be done in x?
[11:20] <sns> I tried using kiosk-tools... but it didn't stop right clicking and was too difficult for me to customize and then lock down. So I realized that I just need to disable right click
[11:20] <sns> and I'm good to go
[11:20] <kg> sns: ever considered just getting single-click mice, like the apple ones?
[11:20] <sns> Since I will be customizing the panel to only having a clock and the firefox icon on beforehand. also adding in screensaver and stuff like that
[11:21] <sns> kg, There is no time for that right now I am afraid
[11:21] <tictric> sns: I never cared for something like that but I'd look at xorg.conf
[11:21] <sns> I am to have this ready by 15 and then on the plane to clone computers in the city they are being deployed
[11:21] <kg> sns: the launch is soon?
[11:21] <sns> yeah I got less than 3 hours on me to make this ready. Just need this last detail and then I can clone the pc
[11:22] <kg> sns: i see - now i understand why you were so panicked last night with the hdtv issues lol
[11:22] <XenThraL> kg: tried a lot of things
[11:23] <XenThraL> saw some posts that dealt with the issue of segmentation fault in opengl
[11:23] <sns> kg, long story short. I got the "pilot pc" at me here in the office, and there are 9 others at locations in a different city. I am to be going there by plane, leaving here at 15. Then this weekend I will make all other ones the same on location
[11:23] <XenThraL> seems like its ubuntu's fault
[11:23] <sns> tictric: I don't dare to touch xorg.conf anymore unless I am certain it will work haha
[11:23] <sns> long story short - I got burnt badly many times yesterday
[11:25] <sns> kg, I would have been starting working on this way way earlier. Problem was that the company who sold us the hardware wasn't able to deliver before yesterday
[11:26] <kg> sns: apparently the kiosk admin tool was meant to do what you want - including disable right click
[11:26] <ubuntu_> hi guys. i want to upgrade my kubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04. is there an option to do this ?
[11:26] <ubuntu_> or i have to install from scratch ?
[11:26] <sns> kg, problem with kiosk admin tool is that it takes the default KDE profile and does it's magic from that. So my customisations are gone and users have access to more than my "right click" trick will give them
[11:27] <sns> I applied every single option in the kiosk admin tool and could still right click
[11:27] <tictric> sns either you google yourself or you try this one http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Advanced_Mouse#Button_Remapping
[11:28] <kg> sns: that's real weird - i'll take a look at the xorg.conf thing tictric suggested then
[11:28] <sns> kg, tictric, I am looking at it too. Just a bit scared of messing with xorg.conf right now
[11:28] <tictric> sns: I already looked xorg.conf is the wrong place
[11:28] <tictric> afaict
[11:30] <sns> Hm. So if I tell xorg.conf that mouse only have one button
[11:30] <sns> it should be good to go?
[11:30] <tictric> cp -a xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak and  happy trying
[11:31] <sns> I'm frightened
[11:31] <tictric> then you bit more than you can chew
[11:33] <sns> tictric, tell me about it
[11:33] <sns> xorg.conf does only have generic mouse stuff
[11:33] <kg> lol tictric, were you here last night to watch sns tearing apart xorg.conf just to get his display working? :P
[11:34] <kg> Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 8 9 10 11"
[11:34] <kg> that's the default - i wonder what happens when you only have 1 :)
[11:34] <sns> let's try
[11:36] <sns> not much happened
[11:36] <tictric> kg: no. Just as I said, I never cared for it before and said where I'd start looking
[11:36] <tictric> But X is definitely the way to go
[11:37] <tictric> man mouse could also give a clue
[11:37] <sns> I need to brb in a hurry.
[11:37] <kg> sns: nothing much happened doesn't say anything... i'm guessing your mouse is still a normal mouse?
[11:38] <tictric> there's even a frontend or so to remap mouse buttons. Just can't remember the name of it
[11:40] <kg> sns: there's also this option:   Option      "Buttons" "5"
[11:40] <kg> sns: maybe changing that to '1' can help
[11:41] <tictric> xmodmap -e 'pointer= 1'
[11:42] <tictric> see what happens, but keep the fireman at hand :)
[11:42] <tictric> you need to be su, obviously
[11:43] <kg> lol don't be such a drama queen tictric... i reckon a fire extinguisher would be enough
[11:43] <tictric> kg that always depends on the flame thrower :)
[11:45] <tictric> on the other hand, if you do #xmodmap -e 'pointer= 3 2 1' you could them into insanity sns :P
[11:46] <sns> it's still a normal mouse
[11:46] <kg> tictric: lol that would definitely drive people crazy
[11:48] <aleboco> hi guys, i opened a bug that is completely wrong, how can i adjust it?
[11:49] <tayfun> hello room
[11:49] <sns> hey I was able to disable right click menu on desktop
[11:49] <sns> now I just need to do it on panel and I'm good
[11:49] <tayfun> is there anyone from turkey or germany?
[11:49] <tayfun> :)
[11:49] <bolo> <--- germany
[11:49] <tayfun> bolo wie gehst
[11:49] <tayfun> :)
[11:50] <bolo> yo passt scho^^ und dir ? :D
[11:50] <tayfun> danke danke
[11:50] <bolo> hey kannst mir mal kurz helfen? need icq auf ubuntu
[11:50] <pag> !de | tayfun, bolo
[11:50] <kg> sns: just remove the panel and stick a firefox icon on the desktop
[11:51] <sns> kg, stupid question. how do I remove panel?
[11:52] <kg> sns: in kde3? i forgot actually... you can manually kill it by "killall kicker" if you want horrible last resort solutions lol
[11:52] <sns> kg, but it won't be gone after a reboot haha
[11:52] <kg> sns: i don't have kde 3 installed anywhere, so i really have no idea - you sure you can't just "right click" and remove?
[11:53] <sns> yep tried that it doesn't give me the option
[11:53] <user__> hi all
[11:53] <sns> what if I did "apt-get remove kicker"
[11:53] <kg> sns: LOL don't you dare
[11:54] <sns> nah that would remove kde completely
[11:54] <kg> sns: if you're thinking THAT desperately, you can actually tell KDE which programs to launch at startup i believe
[11:54] <sns> I was thinking of making kicker no execute
[11:55] <Amarilis> i'm trying to upgrade my kubuntu from 7.04 to 8.04. how can i do that ?
[11:55] <kg> sns: lol you poor thing... calm down, we'll find a slightly better solution :P
[11:55] <Amarilis> i tried this command: kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but nothing happend
[11:55] <Jucato> sns: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration
[11:56] <Amarilis> i even tried to upgrade using adept manager, but it's trying to upgrade to 7.10
[11:57] <sns> Jucato: thanks. trying
[11:57] <kg> sns: hey that link has exactly what you want!
[11:57] <tayfun> somethin is wrong with my keyboard when i m writin he stop and suddenly he writtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttes like that whats is it?
[12:00] <Amarilis>  to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04 do i need to upgrade first from 7.04 to 7.10 and then to 8.04 ?
[12:00] <Jucato> yes
[12:01] <sns> kg, yep it sure did :) now I only have one last problem
[12:03] <kg> sns: lol man, you sure are full of problems :P so what's left?
[12:03] <sns> Can still right click on firefox icon hmm is there any way I can make this icon the god of all icons that can not and will not be removed by users
[12:03] <kg> sns: just change the permissions of the link
[12:03] <kg> sns: so that it's non-writeable
[12:04] <kg> sns: but still readable and executable
[12:05] <sns> did that but it's still able to being moved to trash
[12:05] <kg> oh also, you need to change the Desktop folder so that it's non-writeable, because the unix filesystem is unique such that if the directory's filesystem is writeable, you can still move the file
[12:08] <kg> sns: i wasn't making sense ^ was i? neways, can you still move the file to trash after making the Desktop folder non-writeable?
[12:08] <sns> kg, yep
[12:09] <kg> that's weird... show me the ls -l of the Desktop folder with the icon please
[12:10] <sns> --w--------
[12:11] <Jucato> just make the icon owned by root but executable by others...
[12:11] <Jucato> that way you won't have to mess with the ~/Desktop folder itself
[12:11] <sns> I am restarting kde as it might be some cache thing
[12:11] <sns> did make root owner
[12:12] <sns> doh
[12:12] <sns> I can still delete it but it messed up icons
[12:13] <kg> sns it's still writeable by the owner
[12:13] <kg> you want to make make it executeable and readable, but not writeable by everyone
[12:13] <kg> a+rx & a-w
[12:14] <sns> ahh of course
[12:15] <sns> can still move to trash
[12:15] <kg> jucato: interestingly, as long as the Desktop folder is writeable, you can move any of its files to any other folder you have write access to
[12:15] <kg> what about the Desktop folder sns... ls -l in home dir
[12:15] <sns> and now it's just x x x x
[12:15] <kg> the Desktop folder as well?
[12:15] <sns> desktop still has a lot of permissions
[12:15] <sns> you want it to be just -r ?
[12:15] <kg> no, a-r
[12:15] <kg> oope
[12:16] <kg> sns: a-w
[12:16] <kg> sns: it needs executable and read, otherwise you won't be able to enter the directory
[12:16] <sns> dr-xr-xr-x
[12:16] <sns> is that correct?
[12:16] <kg> yeah, try now
[12:16] <sns> haaha sweet it's working
[12:17] <kg> so you're all set? :)
[12:17] <sns> just need to back this up
[12:17] <sns> still got a bit more than an hour
[12:17] <kg> haha ok - have you remembered all the steps needed yet?
[12:17] <kg> i highly suggest you make a script for it - will make your life easier in your other 9 computers
[12:17] <sns> kg, fresh install of ubuntu, unpack tar archive with all info
[12:18] <Jucato> kg: um.. right...
[12:18] <kg> sns oh right - since it's identical machines, you can just untar hey
[12:19] <tictric> kg, by the looks of it you're having the time of your life?
[12:20] <kg> sns: anyway, can you really launch firefox even though the icon is not readable?
[12:20] <sns> nope looking at it now
[12:20] <kg> tictric: i so badly need a job hey. lol
[12:20] <sns> kg, I just made it readable and that did the trick
[12:20] <sns> can't delete it now
[12:22] <kg> sns: isn't that what you wanted??
[12:22] <sns> yes that's why I am happy
[12:23] <kg> lol that's good... must feel good, especially when you have free time
[12:23] <sns> now just another issue I'm having and I should be allll good
[12:24] <bolo> anybody german here?
[12:24] <kg> sns: lol another "one last issue"? how many of those do you have?? ;)
[12:24] <sns> kg, I think this is the last one actually
[12:24] <sns> it's pretty simple
[12:24] <Jucato> !de | bolo
[12:24] <sns> I need firefox to open pdf files in the browser
[12:25] <Jucato> sns: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE#PDF:_KPDF
[12:28] <kg> sns: by the way, did you disable the shortcut to katapult?
[12:29] <sns> kg, I think so. where is it and what is it?
[12:29] <Jucato> Alt+Space?
[12:29] <sns> these computers will only have a mouse
[12:29] <Jucato> Alt+Space <-- no mouse :)
[12:30] <sns> no keyboard <-- no Alt+Space
[12:30] <kg> sns: yep, as jucato said... you'll be able to launch any application with katapult
[12:30] <kg> sns: no keyboard??
[12:30] <Jucato> (or Alt+F2... but that only gets nice in 4.1)
[12:30] <sns> kg, yes
[12:30] <Jucato> O.o
[12:30] <looonger> will kde4.1 be the default kde in the next kubuntu release?
[12:31] <Jucato> looonger: that's the plan. yes
[12:31] <jussi01> !intrepid-#kubuntu-kde4
[12:31] <kg> sns: lol ok then, you're safe :P
[12:32] <ubunturos> when I log on to kubuntu 8.04.1 compiz crashes or the window decorator crashes
[12:32] <ubunturos> this happens, when I login for the first time. After I log out and log in again, it restores to normal
[12:32] <ubunturos> does anyone here face the same problem?
[12:34] <engineer> nop
[12:34] <sns> kg, is there any way where I can make kpdf's config files read only so that people can't mess with it?
[12:35] <kg> sns: no idea - i don't have a kde3 machine to mess around with - maybe you can try it out and see what happens?
[12:35] <lks>  i have a file in /var/backup but is not longer need and takes up too much space so i would like to delete that though it says i have no permission...how do i go about deleting it? thx
[12:38] <sns> kg, I'd just need a plugin that stays inside firefox
[12:39] <ckd> greetings
[12:40] <ckd> i test the brandnew Kubuntu 8.10, i have no splashy only red/white screen, how can i anable splasy
[12:40] <kg> sns: have you tried the link jucato provided??
[12:41] <lks> how to enable permission to delete a file
[12:41] <sns> kg, yes, it opens in a new window
[12:41] <ckd> sudo chmod 777 filename
[12:41] <sns> program opens
[12:41] <ckd> @ kg
[12:43] <sns> well I have to just live with this
[12:43] <kg> ckd: huh?
[12:44] <sns> thanks for your help
[12:44] <ckd> how to enable permission to delete a file -> sudo chmod 777 filename
[12:44] <kg> sns: sorry man, if i had a kde 3 machine i could have come up with something better
[12:44] <sns> it's no worries. limitations on how much people can fuck with it
[12:44] <lks> ckd cheers
[12:44] <kg> ckd: 700 is enough, as long as you own the file
[12:45] <kg> ckd: oh lol it wasn't meant for me was it?
[12:45] <hannh> hi
[12:45] <hannh> is there a fix for no sound after hibernate
[12:48] <sns> now I just need autologin and take backup
[12:48] <sns> still got 1 hour and ten mins
[12:49] <hannh> yes/no/maybe so?
[12:49] <kg> sns: autologin can be achieved in "system settings" i believe
[12:50] <sns> kg yep :)
[12:52] <hannh> fix for no sound after hibernate?
[12:53] <hannh> or are we just taking it without lube on a release AGAIn..
[12:53] <hannh> man ubuntu is worse then googles android sdk
[12:55] <sns> wooo now just backup
[12:55] <sns> thank you guys so much
[13:00] <kg> sns: lol you're welcome... makes me wish i have a job too :)
[13:03] <kg> sns: about the pdf thing... did you try mozplugger ( net-www/mozplugger ) from the wiki Jucato provided?
[13:04] <sns> kg, yes
[13:05] <kg> sns: did that actually work?? i might actually do the same for my own setup in the future
[13:07] <sns> kg, it didn't. but I have to live with it
[13:07] <sns> taking backups now
[13:07] <sns> again: thanks a million. I have to go. be well
[13:08] <Jucato> kg: there's a 2nd way mentioned, without using the plugin I think
[13:10] <kg> Jucato: yeah, i'll prolly keep that page bookmarked for future reference, when i install a kde3 machine
[13:10] <Jucato> I think there's a similar page in https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[13:13] <Amarilis> guys, how do i upgrade from 7.10 to 804 from cd?
[13:14] <Amarilis> i tried kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but nothing happend
[13:14] <jussi01> !upgrade
[13:18] <kg-away> gotta run - bbl :)
[13:31] <kushou> hi
[13:31] <kushou> is someone french here ?
[13:31] <ubunturos> !fr | kushou:
[13:32] <kushou> ubottu: thanks
[13:32] <kushou> ubunturos: thanks
[13:33] <testi> I have an intel centrino notebook and just plugged in a monitor, but i don't know how to activate it (clone or
[13:33] <testi> extend desktop)
[13:33] <laskk> hey is any method to downgrade from php5 to php 5
[13:33] <laskk> i mean php 4
[13:36] <ubunturos> kushou: bienvenir
[13:39] <kushou> ubunturos: i don't know if you want to tell me welcome in french, but what you say mean nothing (like my english i think)
[13:40] <ubunturos> kushou: I wanted to say 'welcome' in french.
[13:40] <ubunturos> kushou: correct me, if I was wrong
[13:42] <kushou> ^^, it is "bienvenue"
[13:42] <ubunturos> kushou: thanks. I'll note that
[13:44] <kushou> someone can help me ?
[13:44] <kushou> i have a problem with Adept
[13:45] <ubunturos> kushou: you can describe your problem, if someone has a solution, he/she'll reply
[13:45] <kushou> (sorry if my english is not correct)
[13:46] <ubunturos> kushou: go ahead, as long as people understand the context / the problem, they'll reply
[13:46] <ckd> everybody install new ati driver witch kubuntu 8.10 ?
[13:46] <ubunturos> kushou: I assume, the french channel, isn't very active, currently
[13:46] <kushou> I wanna install Qt 4.4
[13:47] <kushou> to program in C++
[13:48] <coreymon77> hi everybody
[13:48] <coreymon77> miss me?
[13:50] <ubunturos> kushou: what error does adept report, when you try to do that?
[13:50] <kushou> just a minut
[13:50] <kushou> it's difficult for me to explain this in english
[13:51] <ubunturos> kushou: ok
[13:51] <kushou> depots mean something for you ?
[13:51] <ubunturos> kushou: no, I don't know what depots is.
[13:51] <ubunturos> kushou: Are you comfortable using the command line?
[13:51] <kushou> depots backports etc ...
[13:51] <ubunturos> (konsole?)
[13:51] <ubunturos> kushou: you mean, repos backports?
[13:52] <kushou> i can use it (konsole)
[13:52] <kushou> i want to activate backports in adept
[13:52] <ckd> help, cant install fglrx-driver with kubuntu 8.10
[13:53] <ubunturos> kushou: start konsole and type 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:53] <kushou> yes
[13:53] <ubunturos> kushou: you can then, remove the '#' beside the backports URL
[13:54]  * ubunturos is assuming, kushou, has the URL already listed, but in comments
[13:55] <kushou> it's already done
[13:55] <ubunturos> kushou: hmm, but you aren't able to get qt4 listed in the list of software packages, is it so?
[13:56] <kushou> in "repos" (i think it's the translation of depots) it's the Qt 4.3.4
[13:56] <kushou> with backports, normaly, it's the 4.4
[13:56] <ubunturos> kushou: ok, and you want Qt 4.4 instead of that?
[13:57] <kushou> yes
[13:57] <ubunturos> kushou: ok.
[13:57] <kushou> It's twice i install this
[13:57] <kushou> 'QT 4.44
[13:57] <kushou> *Qt 4.4
[13:59] <kushou> yesterday, i have uninstall Qt 4.4 but i wouldn't
[13:59] <kushou> hum
[13:59] <kushou> how to explain
[14:00] <ubunturos> kushou: I assume, then, you may have to download the tarball (.tar.gz) file and do a fresh install.
[14:00] <Avenhawk> hi @ all^
[14:00] <ubunturos> kushou: But I'm not good at helping you with that, since, I don't know much about it
[14:00] <ubunturos> kushou: there's another channel called, #qt, where you can post this query, may be even in french, and get solutions
[14:01] <kushou> yes, i wanna explain
[14:01] <kushou> ok
[14:01]  * Jucato is having a hard time understanding too...
[14:01] <Jucato> kushou: if you ask in #qt, they will just probably tell you to ask in your distribution
[14:01] <kushou> just a question
[14:01] <kushou> can you go in adept
[14:02] <Jucato> not right now. I'm not on Kubuntu
[14:02] <kushou> ok
[14:03] <Jucato> kushou: no one is answering you in #kubuntu-fr ?
[14:03] <kushou> no one help
[14:03] <kushou> every body ask questions
[14:03] <Jucato> just need a bit of patience :)
[14:04] <kushou> :)
[14:04] <Jucato> kushou: you need Qt (it's Qt, not QT) for programming?
[14:04] <kushou> Qt 4.4
[14:04] <Jucato> yes, but for programming? not just running Qt apps?
[14:04] <kushou> I participate in a competition
[14:05] <kushou> for programming
[14:05] <dilipgarg> !qt
[14:05] <Jucato> kushou: I think you need to install libqt4-dev
[14:05] <kushou> done
[14:05] <Jucato> then?
[14:05] <kushou> but it's 4.3.4
[14:05] <kushou> i need 4.4.0
[14:06] <kushou> it's in backports
[14:06] <kushou> activated
[14:06] <Jucato> !info libqt4-dev hardy-backports
[14:06] <kushou> but i haven't the update to 4.4
[14:06] <Jucato> if you have hardy-backports, you will have 4.4.0
[14:06] <Jucato> yes, enable hardy backports, then update and upgrade
[14:07] <kushou> hardy-bachports are enabled
[14:07] <slobad23> can i run kubuntu 64 bit on a 32 bit machine?
[14:07] <jussi01> no
[14:07] <kushou> i will update and upgrade again
[14:07] <slobad23> but i can run 32 bit on  a 64 bit machine?
[14:08] <kushou> can you tell me command line for this ?
[14:08] <ubunturos> kushou: sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <Avenhawk> i had something to say i am an old windowsuser and before amiga but Kubuntu (Linux) is awesome so many features and things to configure its like my old basics on C64 =))
[14:09] <ubunturos> so, that updates to meta data of packages in the backports are obtained
[14:09] <kushou> and for upgrade ?
[14:09] <ubunturos> kushou: then, you could search for it using apt-cache search qt* (or qt-* or libqt*)
[14:09] <ubunturos> kushou: for upgrade, sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:09] <kushou> thancks
[14:10] <kushou> -c
[14:10] <kushou> 0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
[14:10] <Jucato> kushou: when you change something in the repositories, you have to "Fetch Updates" (in Adept) or run "sudo apt-get update" first to get a list of updates, then "sudo apt-get upgrade" to actually upgrade those packages
[14:11] <kushou> it's the result of sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:11] <kushou> 0 upadtes
[14:11] <kushou> *updates
[14:12] <Avenhawk> is there only english kubuntuchannel or a german too ?? dont think i dont like english , i love it but i am german its easier for me to question or answer in german ? so is a german channel and who can tell me the channel ? =))) it want be very nice from you guys
[14:12] <Jucato> !de | Avenhawk
[14:12] <Avenhawk> thx !!!!
[14:13] <byteme_> hey guys
[14:13] <eross> what's a good fax program to use
[14:15] <byteme_> my sister just did an upgrade to kde and now she cant get into kde after a reboot
[14:15] <byteme_> what can i tell her to do?
[14:15] <kushou> the last time i do update 4.3.4 > 4.4.0, i just enable backports, update apt-get and i have the updates, but now i haven't
[14:15] <kushou> that is te exact problem
[14:15] <kushou> *the
[14:16] <byteme_> she is at the command prompt
[14:17] <Avenhawk> start kdm or only kdm ?? have you tried it
[14:17] <byteme_> ahh, no I told her to type kde
[14:17] <byteme_> lol
[14:17] <byteme_> ok I will try that
[14:17] <Avenhawk> ok
[14:19] <byteme_> ok, that didnt work either
[14:20] <Avenhawk> hmm did you tried it for , make default session or restart x manager , or try do uninstall kde in other windowmanager and reinstall it =)
[14:21] <byteme_> wow yeah, it just told her that kde is not installed
[14:21] <Avenhawk> ah , ok ...now install it and it works
[14:21] <kushou> Ok, i will try to solve my probleme on french forum, thanks to ubunturos and Jucato
[14:22] <ubunturos> kushou: welcome.
[14:22] <byteme_> now she gets another message
[14:23] <Avenhawk> what kind of
[14:23] <byteme_> E:dpkg was interupted
[14:24] <byteme_> you must manually run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem
[14:24] <Avenhawk> ok that is an defect package you have to download again it , it broken or something in thw way to you , download again and reinstall all what you have done before
[14:25] <byteme_> how do I do that?
[14:25] <byteme_> we are newbies,      sorry
[14:26] <Avenhawk> hehe me too , sry i dont can you help in this range i am only now somethnig of that on Redhat with RPM =) sry something else may help you in this question
[14:26] <byteme_> ahh, ok well thank you
 you must manually run "dpkg --configure -a" to correct the problem <-- run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" :)
[14:27] <byteme_> lol   dud, gotcha
[14:27] <Avenhawk> np , i only know that you can use apt-get remove package-name.dkp or apt-get install pakacge-name for install thats the only thing i know from dkp
[14:28] <Avenhawk> ah he get it ok than greetz
[14:29] <byteme_> ok, it did it and it says "done"
[14:29] <byteme_> restart?
[14:30] <Avenhawk> yes i think so
[14:30] <Avenhawk> because it have to reconfigure and restart is always good =)
[14:31] <byteme_> does she type in restart? or just hit reset on the computer?
[14:31] <Avenhawk> no restart
[14:32] <byteme_> ok
[14:32] <Avenhawk> only restart
[14:33] <Avenhawk> when you push the reset button you can , damage your hdd because its an interrupt to your hdd like a headcrash of a little kind of
[14:33] <byteme_> wow ok
[14:34] <byteme_> sweet
[14:34] <Avenhawk> when you can restart normal only use the normal way , when nothing is gone so that the pc is broken down systen with the os is the reset butten the only last chance ^ try it only in the last way =)
[14:35] <byteme_> its working now
[14:35] <Avenhawk> nice one , greetings
[14:35] <Avenhawk> i mean gratulations
[14:35] <Avenhawk> lol my english is so bad
[14:35] <byteme_> lol, oh wait.
[14:36] <byteme_> (your fine)
[14:36] <Avenhawk> thx...i try my best
[14:37] <byteme_> "no command arguments supplied! Capital usage :KDEsudo[-u<runas>]"
[14:38] <dilipgarg> Hello. Any Japanese fellows here? Just wanted to know what kind of download speeds do you guys get over KTorrent?
KDESudo will now exit...
[14:38] <Avenhawk> wow , ok ...hmmm seems a little bigger problem to be, i think...doesnt see this massage
[14:38] <Avenhawk> before..i mean
[14:38] <Jucato> !jp | dilipgarg
[14:38] <Jucato> byteme_: what command are you running?
[14:39] <dilipgarg> Jucato: ty
[14:39] <byteme_> just the one you gave me and then restarted PC with the reboot command
[14:39] <Jucato> ah you already restarted?
[14:40] <byteme_> yes
[14:40] <Jucato> are you back in KDE? or still dumps you in the command line?
[14:40] <byteme_> all that came up in a dialog box and wants her to click OK
[14:41] <byteme_> (I'm typing for me sis)
[14:41] <byteme_> my
[14:41] <Jucato> hm.. weird...
[14:41] <byteme_> yes
[14:41] <Jucato> after clicking OK, is everying ok?
[14:41] <byteme_> scared to click it
[14:41] <byteme_> ok clicked
[14:41] <byteme_> ok everything seems ok
[14:42] <BluesKaj> good day
[14:42] <Jucato> sounds like a problem with some app that autostarts or with kdesudo...
[14:43] <byteme_> But everytime she updates this happends
[14:45] <byteme_> any ideas?
[14:47] <hibread> Hello!
[14:47] <byteme_> should she try again?
[14:47] <dilipgarg> !hello
[14:47] <hibread> which package contains gcc?
[14:47] <dilipgarg> !hello | hibread
[14:48] <maui> hy guys can u help me in mounting my hard disks and modifying my fstab file? when i try to open em it says permission denied i cant open em
[14:48] <byteme_> Should she try and update again? Jucato
[14:49] <pag> maui, alt+f2 -> kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[14:49] <maui> do i have to paste it?
[14:49] <maui> do i have to paste it here?
[14:50] <hibread> ubottu: errr the FAQ?
[14:50] <pag> !paste
[14:50] <Avenhawk> hoi @ peg welcome back =)
[14:50] <hibread> i see again
[14:50] <maui> i no about pastebine just wanted to ask if i had to paste here
[14:50] <Avenhawk> oh pag with a not e =) sry my fault
[14:51] <maui> http://pastebin.com/m2fbad4ff here it is thank u
[14:51] <pag> Avenhawk, don't worry, you're not the only one who made that mistake ;)
[14:51] <hibread> the Add/Remove programs app... is that the only package manager for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[14:51] <pag> maui, erm.. and what to you want to modify?
[14:52] <Avenhawk> hehe^
[14:52] <maui> i dunno u tell me i just would like to be able to open my 3 hard disks without it telling me "permission denied"
[14:52] <Shaba2> Hell folk
[14:53] <pag> hibread, alt+f2 -> kdesudo adept_manager  brings up more andvanced one, and then there's of course the commandline tools
[14:53] <maui> if u can modify it and tell me what do i have to do to mount them rightly and have em automatically mounted at each boot i'll thank u
[14:53] <dilipgarg> lol
[14:53] <hibread> pag:  ahuh!
[14:53] <pag> maui, could you also pastebin the output of " sudo fdisk -l "?
[14:54] <maui> yes i will in a sec
[14:54] <Shaba2> I know that viruses in the linux world are very rare but I am volunteering to do soe work for a noon profit whose IT Manager insist on every machine have anti virus and anti spyware software. Can someone reccomend a good FREE one.
[14:54] <Shaba2> I use AVG and AdAware on all my windows machines
[14:55] <maui> http://pastebin.com/m778d1387 here it is mate
[14:56] <david_>  Is it reccomended that I use a firewall and virus protection in Kubuntu?
[14:56] <dilipgarg> I second that question too david_
[14:56] <byteme_> Jucato: sorry, but do I try and update again? Seems to do this everytime an update is done
[14:57] <byteme_> every time!
[14:57] <Shaba2> I third it dilipgarg and david
[14:58] <david_> I know there is a thing called firestarter for linux which is free but is it neccessary?
[14:59] <dilipgarg> Avenhawk, pag: do any of you guys use antivirus, internet protection suites?
[14:59] <david_> wheres a good linux guru when you need one?
[14:59] <Shaba2> busy programming I suspect
[15:00] <Shaba2> :)
[15:00] <david_> Playing with windows?
[15:00] <maui> pag? are you there?
[15:00] <Avenhawk> in linux ???
[15:00] <david_> Just kidding
[15:00] <pag> maui, http://pastebin.com/dcc7a95b this should work as long as you have directories /media/sdXY mentioned in file and your user name is maui
[15:00] <pag> dilipgarg, never used AV in linux, and probably never will :-)
[15:01] <maui> and after i copy this in fstab how do i mount the disks?
[15:01] <Shaba2> How do you ctrl-alt-delete to kill a runaway process in linux
[15:01] <dilipgarg> pag: just wanted to hear that :) how about firewall, have you configured it for your kubuntu
[15:01] <Avenhawk> the problem is when the antivirusprog is not configured rightly you can have more problem also without a firewall or antivirusprog =) i dosent use anything in moment of them
[15:02] <pag> maui, well, first of all do the following in the command line: sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mkdir /media/sda5 && sudo mkdir /media/sdb5
[15:02] <Shaba2> I know sudo kill all , but that kills everything correct?
[15:02] <pag> dilipgarg, nope. I use default settings (and TBH have no idea what they are :P)
[15:03] <dilipgarg> pag, very much delighted to hear that. pls carry on
[15:03] <dilipgarg> :)
[15:03] <Avenhawk> windows = use firewall and antivirusprog an feel secure ( i dont think so ) , LINUX = use linux without a firewall or antivirprog an you secures more than windows =) because its LINUX
[15:03] <maui> ive modified the fstab and done the commands you gave
[15:03] <maui> now?
[15:03] <pag> maui, sudo mount -a
[15:03] <david_> yay! for linux
[15:04] <david_> a new day is here for linux!
[15:05] <maui> pag after last command it said "watch out there's not a new paragraph at the end of /etc/fstab/"
[15:05] <david_> windows is falling and Ubuntu/Kubuntu is rising this shows in pc mag
[15:06] <dilipgarg> i agree totally to that, Avenhawk. I had never used linux in my entire life but in the recent months, after upgrading to Windows Vista Ultimate edition and miliions of viruses/spywares/malwares, I had to reformat my drives 9 times in 6 months! So I became frustrated and decided to clean install Kubuntu Hardy Heron and with all good documentation/support its flying on my laptop!! :)
[15:06] <Shaba2> In which issur
[15:06] <pag> maui, fstab likes beauty in formatting, but it shouldn't affect how it works
[15:07] <maui> so now everything should work?
[15:07] <Pigeon``> where is my dvd player? like what directory?
[15:07] <pag> maui, it *should*, but I'd like to hear if it really works
[15:08] <maui> yes it does mate thanks a lot
[15:08] <pag> yw :-)
[15:08] <maui> the only thing is in "root/media/" now there are 4 hard disks instead of 3
[15:08] <dilipgarg> Pigeon: try /root/cdrom
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Pigeon``, usually it's /dev/hdc
[15:09] <david_> I have a phone called magicjack and it only works in windows and mac.. It plugs into the usb port and then I can call anywhere in the US free.. Is there a way to get this to work in Kubuntu?
[15:09] <Avenhawk> <----had windows vista too on desktop PC but no i am LINUXuser , and i am to happy , performance is godlike an you can configure the whole entire system its awesome i really loved , it sends me back in to the future where basic written on Commodore C64 and AMiga i am happy of Kubuntu ^
[15:09] <maui> cuz 3 are sda1 sdb5 sda5 and another one called maupe which is a repetion of one of those 3
[15:09] <maui> the only thing is in "root/media/" now there are 4 hard disks instead of 3
[15:09] <maui> cuz 3 are sda1 sdb5 sda5 and another one called maupe which is a repetion of one of those 3
[15:09] <maui> (sorry to repeat)
[15:09] <pag> maui, might be a leftover from older config – if it's not an issue, then you can just let it be there
[15:10] <pag> maui, it's not defined in fstab, so it might (or might not) dissappear after a reboot
[15:10] <maui> mmmm
[15:10] <maui> alright
[15:10] <maui> so now after reboot the hard disks are gonna be automatically mounted right?
[15:11] <pag> yup
[15:12] <maui> thank allot mate cu
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Pigeon``,  place a disk in the dvd-rom , then open a terminal and use this command , sudo mount /dev/hdc
[15:14] <Avenhawk> can somebody tells me , is the meter from the command " top " who shows the RAM usage correct ???
[15:15] <cg_> hy
[15:15] <cg_> all
[15:15] <Avenhawk> hi cg
[15:15] <cg_> what's new?
[15:15] <pag> Avenhawk, it's correct, but notice that most of your memory goes to buffers
[15:16] <makdaknife> Avenhawk: yes... it should be... you can check this by looking at `cat /proc/meminfo`
[15:16] <Avenhawk> something like in Vista the Superfetching ?? pag ?
[15:16] <makdaknife> Avenhawk: and if you use top.. try installing htop... its a lot more friendly
[15:16] <pag> Avenhawk, kind of, I guess.
[15:17] <Avenhawk> ah ok thy pag , and thanks too makdaknfie nice command...i dont knew it before
[15:17] <cg_> who can tell me how to install messenger yahoo in ubuntu linux?
[15:18] <pag> cg_, doesn't yahoo work from Kopete too?
[15:18] <makdaknife> cg_: try using one of the many IM applications... Kopete, Pidgin etc
[15:19] <Shaba1> can anyone here answer a question about Konversation?
[15:19] <cg_> I used pidgin but when I want to login in yahoo mess it's not connecting
[15:19] <Shaba1> specifically is is possible to use tiled windows instead of tabs
[15:21] <Tm_T> Shaba1: no
 i have pidgin
[15:21] <pag> cg_, it should support Yahoo too?
[15:21] <Shaba1> Thanks Tm_T mIRC has that feature and it makes it more convient
[15:22] <cg_> yes I can create my account in pidgin but it's not connecting
[15:22] <Tm_T> Shaba1: there is many other irc clients out there
[15:23] <Avenhawk> are your name correct and your PW ??? cg_ i had a same prob in the beginning with pidgin but now it works fine
[15:23] <pag> Shaba1, iirc kvirc has similiar looks to mIRC – maybe they share the feature too?
what have you done?
[15:24] <Avenhawk> only check the name or password it can be wrong typed in
[15:25] <Avenhawk> and dont forget the service u want to use install the right way at the top button
 yes I configured my account in pidgin but not working
[15:28] <Avenhawk> but for what you want to configure ??? AIM , ICQ or something you must have the right one an the right number or name and pw
[15:28] <Haza> Afternoon folks. Can anyone recommend some good video editing software for Kubuntu?
[15:29] <Shaba1> thanks pag
[15:29] <Shaba1> ok next quesition
 for AIM
[15:29] <Shaba1> how do I install "khelpcenter
[15:30] <Avenhawk> hmm ...are u sure you have the right entries pw and username ?
[15:30] <Shaba1> every time I go to the help tab on an app I get a dialog that says service khelpcenter is not availible or something to that effect
[15:30] <pag> Shaba1, isn't it there by default? :O
[15:30] <cg_> yes I do
[15:30] <Shaba1> apparently not for me
[15:31] <dilipgarg> !loco
[15:33] <makdaknife> damn... does anyone else have problems with strigi chewing up disk space?
[15:34] <pag> makdaknife, I had.. then I removed strigi, and hadn't had problems ever since :P
[15:36] <makdaknife> pag: ha ha... what do you use as a replacement?
[15:37] <pag> makdaknife, I organise my files so they can be found without any extra help (though I don't have so many files, that I would get lost)
[15:38] <makdaknife> pag: its a bit more difficult when you work with a ton of CVS repositories
[15:38] <Avenhawk> oh man kdelook.org is so slow is it only from my side or hat anyone else the same prob ???
[15:39] <pag> makdaknife, yup.. the other alternative would be Beagle, but I don't know if it's any easier on disk usage
[15:41] <pag> Avenhawk, seems relatively fast to me
[15:41] <Avenhawk> really ???
[15:41] <makdaknife> pag: eah... I think I'll go back to beagle
ok thanks for informations,shall try again,hope so will working
[15:42] <Avenhawk> i tried to download something but i wait and wait and wait i mean i had a connectspeed from my provider from 20mbit^ i dont think its from my side pag
[15:43] <Avenhawk> other sites no problem fullspeed but kdelook.org is slow as some....
[15:43] <pag> Avenhawk, not all files downloadable from kde-look are located on their servers
[15:43] <_CrashMaster_> What does your tracert to kdelook.org look like/
[15:44] <cg_> how can I download movies in ubuntu?
[15:44] <Avenhawk> yeah i know but the entire site or server is slow for me but i dont know wh
[15:44] <Avenhawk> y
[15:44] <Avenhawk> what kind of movies cg_ ?
i am interest what can I using for download movies like The Mummy
[15:46] <pag> !piracy | cg_
[15:46] <david_> My f-spot program does not start anyone know why this might be?
[15:46] <pag> david_, start it fron the terminal and see for error messages
[15:47] <david_> just type in f-spot?
[15:47] <pag> david_, I can't remember if it's f-spot or fspot - it should be either
[15:47] <david_> but type nothing else?
[15:47] <pag> exactly
[15:48] <kyle0016> I'm having problems with installing windows decorations
[15:48] <Vermux> who can help me with this error:
[15:48] <Vermux> http://pastebin.com/m7da9266b
[15:48] <pag> kyle0016, could you please be more specific?
ok sorry
[15:49] <david_> pag it says it cannot find dbus
[15:49] <Shaba1> Oh how do I keep power management from putting my laptop into stand by
but it's not about pirate,
[15:49] <pag> david_, my only guess would be: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[15:50] <Shaba1> actually I do not know if its stand by or just a screen saver
[15:50] <pag> cg_, ubottu is just a bot ;)
[15:50] <Shaba1> it just gets a bunch of wierd lines on it if I do not press a key or move the mouse within a certian amout of time
[15:50] <Shaba1> it looks like tv static
[15:50] <pag> Vermux, could you pastebin the file in question?
thanks but I am new here I don't know many things
[15:51] <pag> cg_, sure no problem :-)
 :)
[15:52] <Vermux> pag: I cant, it is a private chat history (using kopete). I tried to save it to Documents, but it gives me the error, and dont even let me click on the file
[15:52] <pag> cg_, in case you're looking for torrent client: the one in Kubuntu is called ktorrent and in Ubuntu Transmission
[15:52] <pag> Vermux, I meant /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop  it doesn't seem to be a chat history
thank you a lot
[15:53] <pag> Vermux, and btw.: when does the error occur
[15:54] <pag> Vermux, oh, nevermind - I should really learn to read :P
[15:54] <Vermux> pag: 10 seconds after I click on documents folder and move the pointer to try and open the file
[15:54] <david_> pag: well that did not work but what did was when I put this in terminal "dbus-launch f-spot"  That started the program with no problem but it still does not start from the icon.
[15:55] <pag> Vermux, try the following: sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop ~/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop  it should fix the error
[15:56] <pag> david_, well you could change the icon's command to "dbus-launch f-spot"..
[15:57] <david_> ah good idea I was almost thinking that
[15:58] <Avenhawk> haha its getting faster peg =) kdelook...
[15:58]  * pag considers changing his nick – apparantly 'peg' is easier to remember/type :D
[15:58] <maui> hi guys i downloaded and installed guarddog, set it up as well but it just doesn't work: i allowed irc chat and msn chat and a couple of other things but it just blocks em anyway even if i allowed them, is there anything else i have to allowed to permit (e.g.) these two? i dunno some other application/program?
[15:58] <Avenhawk> rofl pag sry i mean peg
[15:59] <pag> Avenhawk, type p and press tab, it should get my nick automatically ;) (works for other nicks too, as well as commands at commandline)
[15:59] <david_> pag that works great I just learned something
[16:00] <Avenhawk> pag: ok
[16:00] <cg_> when I try to open add/remove program I have this message:another process uses database  system,but I don't have another open
[16:00] <david_> !dbus
[16:00] <pag> !aptfix | cg_
[16:01] <Vermux> pag: thanks, it solved the problem. so what u did is to copy the file that was in the error message to the home directory?
[16:01] <Avenhawk> pag: i dont use irc before to chat i only know skype =)
[16:01] <pag> Vermux, well I've actually moved it, so it wouldn't affect the dolphin's work ;)
[16:02] <Vermux> pag: ok, what filr is it?
[16:03] <pag> Vermux, apparantly you can right click on some file and add it to amarok as podcast with it (pretty useless I'd say)
[16:03] <maui> hi guys i downloaded and installed guarddog, set it up as well but it just doesn't work: i allowed irc chat and msn chat and a couple of other things but it just blocks em anyway even if i allowed them, is there anything else i have to allowed to permit (e.g.) these two? i dunno some other application/program?
[16:03] <Vermux> pag: what is podcast? is it the movies, tv shows ofipod format?
[16:04] <Avenhawk> pag: how i can install a kde theme ...=)) ??? on gnome i know it but here where is the window for it
[16:04] <maui> pag? no-one can help?
[16:04] <pag> Vermux, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcast WP explains much better than I could ;)
[16:05] <pag> maui, I never bothered myself with firewall, so I have no idea how they work
[16:05] <pag> Avenhawk, which theme are you trying to install (link would be great)
[16:06] <maui> alright
[16:06] <maui> thx
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !guardog
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !guard dog
[16:06] <pag> !firewall
[16:06] <maui> i already read it but it says nuttin
[16:07] <Avenhawk> pag: ok mom
[16:07] <BluesKaj> why do you think you need it...this is not windows?
[16:07] <Avenhawk> pag: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Luna?content=155
[16:08] <david_> !usb
[16:09] <pag> Avenhawk, well there is install.sh in the directory – running it might have some effect
[16:10] <Avenhawk> pag: ah ok thanks than i know what i have to do
[16:10] <pag> Avenhawk, that theme is so old though, that some aspects might'e changed, so I have no ide wether it will work
[16:11] <Avenhawk> pag: i try it , when its done i tell you of working or not =)
[16:11] <pag> ok :-)
[16:11] <david_> pag: why is it that Kubuntu sometimes recognizes the usb port and sometimes it doesn't?
[16:14] <pag> david_, I don't know.. I once had issues with *buntu not recognising usb port at all; I had to use usb-handoff bootoption for kernel. try using it, and see wether the problem remains?
[16:14] <cg_> bye all must going out
[16:16] <david_> pag: what does that mean "usb-handoff bootoption for kernel" ? Do I enter that in terminal?
[16:16] <Avenhawk> pag: it worked not rightly its installed he shows me but it doesnt work =(
[16:18] <pag> david_, kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst -> find the line (at quite end of file) with newest kernel, and add usb-handoff right after "splash quiet " (or whatever options there are)
[16:19] <pag> Avenhawk, try looking for nice themes in repositories – my favourites are Serenity and QtCurve (and if you're mac-o-holic, then also Baghira ;)
[16:20] <pag> david_, remember to be careful with that file – errors in it might cause your system to become unbootable
[16:20] <Avenhawk> pag: ah ok thanks for the info ill try it
[16:24] <avik42> hiya, I just installed Kubuntu Intrepid Alpha 2 .. I can sudo just fine but when I try to use Hardware Driver Manager it says I need to give root password.. what is the root password?  I didn't have a dialog to set it at install time and it's not the same as my sudo password .. thanks
[16:25] <Pici> avik42: Intrepid support in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:25] <avik42> thank you
[16:26] <dilipgarg> When I watch DivX videos on firefox using mplayer there're no controls for fast forwarding and such.. how should I configure 'em
[16:27] <Avenhawk> pag: yeah i get the serenity matrix theme muhaah it looked like in the film =)) nice one
[16:28] <david_> pag: I think maybe I will wait on the fix.. I think I will ruin everything.. The card is recognized in gnome but not in kde.. So I will just swithc back and forth till the fix actually comes.. thanks anyway it seems to risky..
[16:29] <david_>   thanks so much for your help
[16:32] <david_> no colors allowed what does that mean do I see descrimination?
[16:33] <pag> david_, IRC colors - the ones you can make your text to appear as red/blu/yellow/etc.
[16:33] <david_> but my name can have color?
[16:34] <pag> david_, usually nickcolors are set locally by client – for example you appear for me as blue
[16:35] <david_> yes I am blue I just set it.. but I see alot of peoples text as blue and red.. your words look red to me
[16:36] <pag> david_, not sure about blue one (probably font setting) but red is highlight colour which is triggered when your nick is menitioned
[16:37] <david_> oh I see all your lines as red I geuss that is because it is directed to me..
[16:38] <pag> well I type your nick in front of all most my lines (exept this, of course ;)
[16:38] <david_> yes now you are black I see thanks for the clarification
[16:38] <pag> np :)
[16:41] <SHAMO> got a question am a newbi ....if you donwl and install software.....in what folder O_Õ) will it go ....??
[16:42] <eduardopl> SHAMO: /var/apt/cache/archives i guess
[16:42] <pag> SHAMO, the package itself will go to /var/apt/archive/ or similiar – the content will go to apropriate direcories all over your system
[16:42] <eduardopl> it's /var/cache/apt/archives actually
[16:43] <SHAMO> okey...i though wat pag said.....all over your system...-_-!!)...
[16:44] <genii> SHAMO: What pag says is true when you use packages or the built in package manager. If you are downloading outside apps they download to wherever your browser defaults puting them, then the binary files after making the application goes wherever it's instructions tell it to put them. Usually in places like /bin /sbin for executable files and places like /etc for configuration files
[16:45] <SHAMO> ahh okey..thnx..
[16:50] <dilipgarg> When I watch DivX videos on firefox using mplayer there're no controls for fast forwarding and such.. how should I configure 'em
[16:51] <Avenhawk> bye @ all
[16:51] <incorrect> in gnome i can install a .deb directly from getdeb for example, can i do this with kde without having to save the file locally?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> biab..reboot the router
[16:55] <genii> incorrect: Try downloading one and see if it gives you an option in browser window to open it with a package handler
[16:56] <incorrect> i get the option to open it in a viewer, there doesn't appear to be a kdebi
[16:56] <incorrect> duh
[16:56] <incorrect> i see it
[16:56] <genii> incorrect:  :)
[16:56] <incorrect> gdebi-kde
[16:57] <incorrect> lol i thought the g was gnome
[16:58] <incorrect> hmm, better firefox support in kde is needed :(
[16:59] <genii> Well, it's natively a GTK app
[16:59] <genii> So it could said that better kde support is needed in firefox instead
[17:00] <mkultras> opera is nice enough to tell you that its hotkeys conflict with kde on first startup, i thought that was nice of them
[17:00] <incorrect> maybe i mean, better support for firefox in kubuntu is needed
[17:12] <KDave> test
[17:13] <dilipgarg> anyone?
[17:13] <dilipgarg> wrong chat
[17:13] <KDave> yes?
[17:14] <m137294> test
[17:16] <SHAMO> does anybody has a nvidia geforce 8500 gt   videocard....o_Õ) what driver did you use ...for it ....i cant change the resolution
[17:16] <Shaba2> How does one determine what process id is associated with what window on the desktop.
[17:17] <pag> Shaba2, 'xkill' removes the need for that
[17:17] <Shaba2> yes pag
[17:17] <Shaba2>  but I do not want to kill the desktop or konversation?
[17:17] <Shaba2> that is why I want to know the process id
[17:18] <Jucato> Shaba2: Ctrl+Esc
[17:18] <Shaba2> Juanto in a terminal window?
[17:18] <Jucato> pag: btw, in KDE, Ctrl+Alt+Esc = xkill
[17:18] <Jucato> Shaba2: oh, nope.
[17:19] <Jucato> in KDE, that would bring up the Process Table (like the Task Manager in Windows)
[17:19] <Shaba2> see what I mean about specificity
[17:19] <Shaba2> ok Jucato how does one do that?
[17:19] <Jucato> Shaba2: "ps aux" will give you a list of running process.
[17:20] <pag> Jucato, yup, I know. though lately so many Gnome folks have stopped by here, that I prefer to give universal instructions whenever possible ;)
[17:20] <Jucato> "ps aux | grep -i <search term>" would let you filter it down
[17:20] <Resistol> Help!  After I login, my screen goes black except for the mouse pointer... the last thing I did was check "enable desktop effects"
[17:21] <Jucato> Resistol: KDE 4?
[17:21] <Resistol> Yes Jucato i just installed it, I'm a newbie
[17:22] <Shaba2> You were right Jucato xkill just allowed me to choose he window
[17:22] <Shaba2> I like that
[17:22] <Jucato> Resistol: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 how to disable desktop effects
[17:22] <Shaba2> :)
[17:22] <XenThraL> Hi, I seem to be getting segmentation faults when running opengl programs, can anyone tell me how I can simply remove all traces of older nvidia drives from ubuntu?
[17:22] <Jucato> Shaba2: that's what pag meant :)
[17:23] <XenThraL> read in a post that apparently its ubuntu's fault, that removing the driver packages still leaves some stuff behind...
[17:23] <eramax_> hello ;
[17:23] <eramax_> i have been installed KDE 4.1 RC1 on my Ubuntu 8.04
[17:23] <eramax_> But i have some problems :-
[17:23] <eramax_> 1-how can i create a launcher to application or a folder or a file in my desktop
[17:23] <eramax_> i can not make that yet ;
[17:23] <pag> eramax_, #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE4 support please
[17:24] <Jucato> I.. already told him that :)
[17:24]  * pag is getting slow
[17:24] <eramax_> what  mean i talk about kde 4.1
[17:24] <Jucato> nah, I told him that in #kde :)
[17:25] <Jucato> eramax_: yes. #kubuntu-kde4 for KDE 4 (4.0 or 4.1)
[17:25] <XenThraL> anyone?
[17:25] <eramax_> ok
[17:25] <XenThraL> would really hate having to wipe my install :|
[17:25] <Resistol> thanks Jucato, I just saw a post on a forum stating that i could just remove the ~/.kde4 directory and it will recreate itself... think i'm going to give that a try
[17:26] <Jucato> Resistol: if it's absolutely new. sure. just don't make it a habit
[17:26] <Jucato> .kde4 or .kde will usually contain personal settings or applicaton data. you don't want to lose those sometimes :)
[17:26] <Resistol> got it
[17:26] <Resistol> by the way, what is the kubuntu text editor?  in ubuntu it was gedit
[17:27] <jpds> Resistol: kate
[17:27] <pag> Resistol, kate and/or kwrite
[17:27] <Resistol> thanks jpds
[17:27] <Resistol> I'm off to fix my pooter!
[17:27] <jpds> ..or vim.
[17:27] <pag> jpds, isn't there by default? nano is, but.. well it's nano :P
[17:28] <Jucato> vim and nano are installed by default
[17:28] <Jucato> (or at least, vim(-tiny)
[17:28] <Jucato> )
[17:33] <yakuzi> i think nana is also by default because i can't remember installing it...but i used it already a lot to repair my xorg.conf when messing around with ati and dual screen ;-)
[17:33] <yakuzi> *nano
[17:37] <yakuzi> my conclusion after 2 reinstalls, infinite reboots and destroyed xorg.conf's...don't try dual screen with ati + 19" CRT + 20" TFT....
[17:37] <SHAMO> were to find taht xorg.conf   file ????
[17:37] <Pici> SHAMO: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:37] <yakuzi> but be aware
[17:38] <yakuzi> if you mess something up you have a problem so make a back up first
[17:38] <SHAMO> ^_^!!) thnx..have trouble with my resolution ..-_-!!)...i was reading about that xorg.conf file
[17:41] <yakuzi> does anyone know some piece of software that makes it possible to sync kontact on desktop + laptop? (calendar, adressbook, to-do and stuff) If possible without the need of a server
[17:54] <sledge> libasound2-dev: Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.15-3ubuntu4) but 1.0.16-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[17:54] <sledge> :/
[17:55] <paolo> Hi *. How do I change the dpi on X? any doc? I couldn't find anything that would work
[17:58] <daemon3_opera> Are there any instructions for setting up an external monitor GUI-style.  I tried doing it, but I screwed it up.  Thank goodness Linux keeps backups of xorg.conf files. :P
[17:58] <daemon3_opera> Are there...monitor GUI-style? Grammatical correction there. :)
[17:59] <engineer> thank goodness windows has GUI config windows
[18:00] <yakuzi> deamon3_opera : bad luck for you but dual screen isn't easy
[18:00] <silvia_> Alright... after about some 30 hours I managed to get my wireless board working with ndiswrapper... but it seems to be unable to connect WPA networks, even though it detects their encryption type and asks for it's key (well, at least knetworkmanager does). Anyone got a good idea?
[18:00] <yakuzi> at least, if you don't have 2 identical monitors :p
[18:01] <daemon3_opera> silvia_: You might want to try messing with the encryption if you haven't already.  I did for a WEP key.
[18:01] <daemon3_opera> The Encryption dropdown menu, I mean.
[18:02] <Nyad>  hello. I have a device naming issue. I've been running kubuntu on my sata drive sdb6. but now I plugged in an IDE HD as the primary slave. this has now named itself sda so my previous sdb6 with grub is now called sdc6 and so grub can't be found.
[18:02] <Nyad> why doesn't it get named sdc or something
[18:02] <Nyad> instead of changing everything
[18:03] <silvia_> daemon3_opera: what do you mean by messing around? I already dropped all kinds of encryption and am connected right now encryptionless... this seems to be working but I really oughta have wpa working again.
[18:05] <Shaba2> anyone know a convient screen capture program that runs in the backgroud and works with a keystroke combination
[18:05] <silvia_> daemon3_opera: If I had to guess I'd say it's something with wpa_supplicant, but I spent the last 4 hours fixing some deep mess I made with the interfaces while trying to get ndis to work so I'm reluctant to mess with wpa_sup because it seemed to be working before.
[18:07] <daemon3_opera> Right click on the KDE Network icon in the system tray.  Select Connect to Othber Wireless Network.  Enter the name of the network.  Click on encryption, and play around with the type of encryption (enter the key, of course).  Then click connect.  If it doesn't work, try another type of encryption.
[18:07] <daemon3_opera> silvia_:
[18:10] <silvia_> daemon3_opera: Ok, thanks... that doesn't solve my problem though =) You see, I can configure my ap and I usually run it with wpa. right now knm won't connect using wpa for it's life so I had to drop encryption. this way it connected which allowed me to enjoy this chat. What I'm looking into is getting wpa working, get it? =)
[18:14] <Koordin> genii ?
[18:14] <daemon3_opera> silvia_: Sorry. :( Guess I don't know then.
[18:15] <genii> Koordin ?
[18:15] <Koordin> do you remember me ? Babuto ? I had a problem with browsing
[18:15] <Koordin> i could ping, but not browse
[18:15] <genii> I do remember, yes.
[18:16] <silvia_> daemon3_opera: Hey, it's alright dude, thanks anyway! It's the thought that counts! =)
[18:16] <Koordin> I finally solved it
[18:19] <Koordin> genii:  I've added these three lines "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0 ; net.ipv4.tcp_rmem=4096 16384 524288 ; net.ipv4.tcp_wmem=4096 16384 524288" in /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:19] <Koordin> if you see the other one who helped me, can you tell him ?
[18:19] <genii> Koordin: Will do.
[18:19] <genii> flaccid_: Hear that ? ;)
[18:20] <fyn> heya ... anyone know what module i need to get the aes-cbc-essiv cipher in hardy heron?
[18:20] <bolo> anybody german here?
[18:21] <Koordin> thanks
[18:21] <Jucato> !de | bolo
[18:21] <fyn> anyone have luks setup for encrypted homes in hardy heron?
[18:22] <ngirard> Hi guys, sorry for this off-opic question but I didn't know where to ask: which free software would you use to shift all the subtitles in an srt file by, say 1 second ?
[18:23] <Koordin> open office cannot do it ?
[18:24] <ngirard> Koordin: Hi, are you answering my question ?
[18:24] <Koordin> yes
[18:24] <Koordin> Hi
[18:25] <ngirard> Koordin: Well,  actually I'm convinced there are more specific tools although I've never used any of them
[18:25] <matthias__> bonjour!
[18:26] <Koordin> i didn't understand what you are trying to do
[18:26] <Koordin> you want to uppercase all the subtitles ?
[18:27] <Jucato> Koordin: make subtitles appear after a delay
[18:27] <yakuzi> what he wants is to adjust the subtitles in an srt by 1 sec for instance backwards/forwards
[18:27] <Jucato> the "shift" there doesn't mean "Shift key" :)
[18:27] <Koordin> oh sorry
[18:28] <Koordin> with VLC, when you are watching a video, you can delay the subtitles using alt+h & alt+j
[18:28] <ngirard> Jucato: Hi. You're right, that's what I need
[18:29] <Koordin> ngirard: is that enough ?
[18:29] <Koordin> or you want to save a new .srt file with the new times ?
[18:30] <ngirard> Koordin: I want to save a new .srt file with the new times, exactly
[18:30] <Koordin> ok
[18:31] <Koordin> one second i have a friend who make a program espacially for this
[18:31] <Koordin> on which OS are you ?
[18:31] <MachinatorSyver> could anyone help me get my microphone to work
[18:31] <ngirard> Koordin: I'm using linux
[18:33] <daemon3_opera> So basically  adding an external monitory is not worth it, save education's sake? :)
[18:33] <Koordin> he is making programs for windows ... i'll see what i can find for you
[18:34] <ngirard> Koordin: http://www.effe-elle.it/srt/srtshifter.aspx might fit my need, though I'm a little bit bothered with the idea of posting the whole stuff while a local script could do the same stuff
[18:34] <yakuzi> daemon3_opera: depends on your graphic card...
[18:35] <daemon3_opera> NVIDIA.
[18:35] <matthiasv> omg
[18:35] <yakuzi> if ati and 2 different monitors (like CRT and TFT) leave it, if NVidia, you can try but i don't know about it
[18:35] <daemon3_opera> What's worng, matthiasv?
[18:36] <daemon3_opera> NVIDIA and ENVision. :P
[18:36] <Koordin> but what is the problem with this website ?
[18:36] <yakuzi> well i don't know ENVision :p
[18:37] <ngirard> Koordin: well, it's just that i'd prefer a local solution, the more so as I pretty sure it must exist
[18:37] <ngirard> I'm *
[18:37] <Koordin> ok
[18:38] <MachinatorSyver> could anyone help me get my soundcard mic to work?
[18:39] <cleaton> i might be able and help
[18:39] <Koordin> ngirard: have you tried subtitleworkshop ?
[18:39] <cleaton> i always have that problem when i install kubuntu, the mic is muted :/
[18:39] <MachinatorSyver> in KMix it says my mic is enabled
[18:40] <Koordin> ngirard: nevermind, it's for windows. But maybe this will help : http://home.gna.org/gaupol/
[18:40] <ngirard> Koordin: yeah about subtitleworkshop i came to the same conclusion. I'm about to have a look to gaupol, and meanwhile i've found there seems to exist
[18:41] <ngirard> Koordin: such srttool script, which i'm gonna fetch & examine
[18:41] <Shaba1> Hello Jucato
[18:41] <Koordin> ok : )
[18:41] <Shaba1> can someone suggest and irc client that allows one to arrange "tile" chat windows
[18:41] <Jucato> Shaba1: hi
[18:41] <Jucato> (and bye...)
[18:42] <Shaba1> Konversation only allows you tabs
[18:42] <Jucato> kvirc is the only one I know
[18:43] <parkin__> konversation is really nice
[18:43] <Shaba1> ok thanks Jucato
[18:43] <Shaba1> Is that a kde verision of Virc --- VISUal irc
[18:43] <Shaba1> I used that under windows years ago
[18:44] <Jucato> kvirc works on windows too
[18:44] <Jucato> dunno if it's from virc
[18:44] <Jucato> (never heard of that one)
[18:45] <justs0me> will a B43 wireless driver for broadcom work with a BCM4312 [14e4:4312] (rev 01)  the site says bcm4311 rev 1 / bcm4312
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[18:48] <ngirard> Koordin: FYI I did sudo apt-get install subtitleripper to get srttool, which (according to its own help) seems to do the trick. Thanks very much for your feedback !
[18:49] <Koordin> ngirard: Ok i hope this will work. ^^
[18:57] <SilentDis> !wifi
[18:57] <slow-motion> hi
[18:58] <engineer> hey slow-motion
[18:58] <engineer> what's up
[18:58] <slow-motion> hi engineer
[19:02] <Seren__> do you know any vector drawing running on kubuntu other than inkscape ?
[19:07] <Seren__> (found it : karbon14)
[19:14] <justs0me>  on my laptop, i have stock external wireless switch. when i have the switch at the off postion my Knetworkmanager was able to scan networks, is somthing wrong?   also should i have the switch in the on postion when i installed the driver /
[19:43] <Kirloskar> I connected to the internet using wvdial, and konversation and kopete work, but neither konquerer nor firefox detect tthe connection.. Can anyone help?
[19:44] <Kirloskar> Is anyone here?
[19:45] <BluesKaj> Kirloskar,  try KPPP
[19:45] <Kirloskar> KPPP?
[19:45] <Kirloskar> ah no
[19:45] <Kirloskar> its a usb modem
[19:46] <Kirloskar> from phone
[19:46] <BluesKaj> dsl ?
[19:46] <Kirloskar> gprs.. from mobile phone
[19:47] <BluesKaj> Kirloskar,  sorry, dunno about that stuff
[19:47] <Kirloskar> np, thanks blueskaj :)
[19:48] <SilentDis> hello
[19:49] <SilentDis> trying to get my wifi setup, `lshw -C network` shows the card, but it's listed without a driver and 'UNCLAIMED'.  The Wireless Troubleshooting Guide up on help.ubuntu.com does not have any information (lists it as a ToDo).  Any suggestions?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> !wireless | SilentDis
[19:51] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: yep, that's what i'm following, specifically the troubleshooting guide linked from there.  it lists it as a ToDo, as in no further information at the moment.
[19:51] <Kirloskar> figured it out, thnx again BluesKaj
[19:51] <Kirloskar> one more thing, how do i create a shortcut to wvdial on desktop?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> SilentDis,  I have toa sk the obvious ...have you googled for a driver ?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> is there an icon in the panel , Kirloskar ?
[19:53] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: madwifi looks like what i need, their site lists that kubuntu 8.04 should have it in the linux-restricted-modules and madwifi-tools, both of which i have installed on the lappy
[19:53] <Kirloskar> I ran everything throught the Konsole
[19:54] <BluesKaj> SilentDis,  sounds like you're almost there, then :)
[19:55] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: still, the wireless does not work, it's not detected by kwifi, by network manager, etc etc.  the card isn't working, and i don't know what to do now :(
[19:56] <SebNaitsabes> Yesterday I  was successful doing a VNC -listen with someone after following this and making sure it was listening on port 5500.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489  however today it did not work.  also by the sounds of it what we did there was not very secure.  what's the correct and secure way to do a vnc -listen?  also todays errors on the other persons end is:  http://pastebin.com/m7f124237
[19:57] <SebNaitsabes> yes this was all done on Ubuntu, but  this person will probably become a Kubuntu user once I can VNC again,  so you benefit off helping me :)
[19:57] <BluesKaj> SilentDis,  try the manual configuration option in knetwork manager
[19:57] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: tried it, no wifi card detected
[19:58] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: the wifi card isn't even in the list.  there's no driver loaded for it, so i assume that's the problem.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's prolly it , SilentDis
[19:59] <SilentDis> BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - what i'm following.  I'm stuck at this part: "TODO: describe what it means when it shows *-network UNCLAIMED, and no configuration line is present."
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !ndiswarapper | SilentDis
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !ndiswarpper | SilentDis
[20:01] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | SilentDis
[20:02] <BluesKaj> it would help if i could spell
[20:04] <emons> hi guys how do i install adobe flash player or similar plugin to visualize things on the internet?
[20:04] <SebNaitsabes> !flash
[20:04] <emons> yjx
[20:05] <SebNaitsabes> !sudo
[20:05] <SebNaitsabes> emons:  kdesu  apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree should do it
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> !apt
[20:06] <emons> and how do i avoid konqueror to open links i only want ff3 and already set it as default but konqueror keeps open links (e.g. from here)
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> emons: or open up Adept and get flash from that
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> find a .HTML file
[20:06] <SebNaitsabes> anywhere
[20:07] <SebNaitsabes> and if it's like Gnome KDE,  you should be able to do something like right click properties go to open with and choose Firefox
[20:07] <SebNaitsabes> or I supopouse Firefox can be set as your default browser in it's settings
[20:07] <SebNaitsabes> that should do it
[20:07] <emons> thank u ill try that
[20:08] <BluesKaj> emons, in the konsole , sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:10] <Kernel> what are the suggested mp3 players nowadays?.....xmms is no longer in kubuntu......
[20:10] <emons> i think i made it i changed it from default applications and file association in settings
[20:10] <emons> now ill take care about flash player and c how it goes
[20:10] <Kernel> amarok is kind of overkill for me.
[20:10] <Kernel> im looking for a player JUST like xmms....if there are any
[20:10] <SebNaitsabes> !xmms
[20:10] <SebNaitsabes> !music
[20:10] <SebNaitsabes> !players
[20:11] <Kernel> ok thanks SebNaitsabes
[20:11] <SebNaitsabes> no problem
[20:12] <emons> SebNaitsabes: it says Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[20:12] <SebNaitsabes> serach for Flash in your package manager
[20:13] <emons> there's not
[20:13] <emons> i looked it up in my repository but theres not
[20:13] <Kernel> !codecs
[20:13] <KDave> !Cairo
[20:13] <Resistol> Hi Kubuntu newbie here, how do I edit the sounds in Kubuntu?  (login etc)
[20:14] <emons> mmm help :D
[20:15] <BluesKaj> emons , Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[20:18] <KateKatja> Hi. I am not able to view all types of DivX videos.
[20:18] <emons> ive done what u said but whei clicked on close before to type on the terminal it started to download stuff
[20:18] <BluesKaj> KateKatja,  install ffmpeg
[20:18] <KateKatja> BluesKaj: is that the package name?
[20:20] <emons> alright ive done everything but still it says Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[20:20] <BluesKaj> KateKatja,  yes
[20:20] <emons> uff... stressing...
[20:20] <Kernel> i installed libxine1-ffmpeg and audacious but it wont play mp3s.....am i still missing something?
[20:20] <BluesKaj> emons , now look for flashplugin-nonfree
[20:21] <emons> i did and there's not
[20:21] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, I have just finished installing it. Doesnt help me to play this one http://www.zezmo.com/divx.php?id=605
[20:21] <emons> i also did kdesu apt-get flashplayer-nonfree
[20:21] <emons> but it says Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[20:21] <emons> i looked it up in add/remove programs and theres not
[20:21] <emons> what do i do?
[20:21] <KDave> I have a question for you experts
[20:22] <Resistol> Does anyone know how to change system sounds?  Like maximize minimize
[20:22] <BluesKaj> KateKatja,  also install libdvdcss2, if you have medibuntu repositories
[20:22] <KDave> I loaded on Cairo-dock
[20:22] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, its already installed
[20:23] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, can you play the movie on the above url
[20:23] <BluesKaj> emons it's flashplugin-nonfree ,NOT flashplyer
[20:23] <KDave> But it does not load it says I do not have a Glitz file but I do have it loaded what could be the problem?
[20:23] <Kernel> does anyone know how i can get audacious to play mp3s?
[20:23] <emons> thanks mate
[20:23] <emons> :D
[20:24] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, and on here http://beta.vreel.net/watch_10831.html, i only get the sound not the video
[20:24] <BluesKaj> KateKatja, no , mplayer won't play it for me either :(
[20:24] <KateKatja> both of the links?
[20:25] <Kernel> !mp3
[20:25] <Algyz> mplayer played even .ape without plugins :O
[20:26] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, I read somewhere that all those video/audio requests could be redirected to vlc player.. but i am not sure about vlc playing embedded divx videos in a browser
[20:26] <BluesKaj> well, it just downloads the buffer on my player
[20:26] <BluesKaj> vlc player works ok on nonweb content
[20:26] <BluesKaj> webcontent not so great
[20:27] <KateKatja> yea.. i guessed that
[20:27] <Resistol> how can i make firefox the default browser?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> Resistol, , in the konsole , sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[20:28] <Kernel> is it me or do the ubuntu repos suck?....they start out fast for about 10 seconds...then drop down to 1-3kb/s and stay that slow
[20:28] <Resistol> BluesKaj: should i copy that exactly, or am i replacing x-www-browser with firefox?
[20:28] <Kernel> i have to cancel the download and restart it about 5 times when installing things
[20:29] <Kernel> 26% [1 sun-java6-bin 8991704/27.3MB 32%]                      5280B/s 1h18min12s
[20:29] <Kernel> :(
[20:29] <BluesKaj> KateKatja, the webvideo can be streamed thru VLC but it's arcane to setup
[20:29] <KateKatja> Kernel, it looks like its just you
[20:29] <rickest> Kernel: might try a different mirror
[20:29] <Kernel> ive had this issue with ubuntu repos in the past
[20:29] <Kernel> im using the us. mirrors
[20:29] <BluesKaj> Resistol,  copy that exactly into the terminal , them choose the bowser
[20:29] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, if that arcane setup does the work, i'll be happy to follow those instructions
[20:30] <kdavid> Hi I need some help figuring something out
[20:30] <engineer> ok kdavid
[20:31] <BluesKaj> well, I wish i could help you there KateKatja , there are some tutorials out there, good luck :)
[20:31] <Kernel> bah.
[20:31] <kdavid> I just loaded Cairo on my Kubuntu and it does not start. It says I am missing a glitz file but I have it
[20:31] <Resistol> BluesKaj: bash responded "therei s only 1 program which provides x-www-browser"
[20:31] <Kernel> installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and audacious STILL wont play any mp3's
[20:31] <KateKatja> looks sheepishly towards BluesKaj and smiles.. okay. :)
[20:31] <BluesKaj> Resistol,  have you installed firefox?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> KateKatja,  I find it frustrating to fool around with those nonstd video codecs on the net
[20:34] <Resistol> BluesKaj: yes, it is listed as the only program when I type that command, but konqueror opens when I open a link/html file
[20:34] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, DivX/XviD are one of the most popular vid codecs today. Cant just ignore the fact
[20:36] <Kernel> hmm when i click on a mp3 and select open with audacious....it opens a whole new audacious client...instead of opening it with the already open client. can i fix this?
[20:36] <KateKatja> !divx
[20:39] <BluesKaj> KateKatja, sorry i forgot to mention [k]ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:39] <KateKatja> BluesKaj, I guess those were installed yday
[20:39] <KateKatja> :)
[20:41] <joe_> i was woundering how can you put a avi file to a dvd so that someone can play & watch movies on there home dvd players???
[20:42] <Shaba1> Ok does anyone know how I can install the khelpcenter service under xfre
[20:42] <Shaba1> I use xubuntu
[20:43] <joe_>  ok i thought this was a place to get help with linux i guess i was wrong
[20:43] <BluesKaj> joe_,  one can convert with several apps , most use ffmpeg and mencoder
[20:44] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[20:44] <kdavid> engineer: you still there?
[20:45] <katsurou> whats the best? kde3 or 4?
[20:46] <kdavid> kde3 for now
[20:46] <katsurou> hum :D
[20:46] <katsurou> tnx
[20:47] <kdavid> np :-)
[20:47] <Viper550> Are there kubuntu packages for Hardy of qtcurve for KDE4?
[20:47] <joe_>  i don't know what happend, it's like i got booted out or someth'n
[20:47] <FuriousGeorge> im a little confused by user management.  i know im not root, but i see that im not in sudoers either.  so how do i create a user who isnt an administrator?
[20:48] <FuriousGeorge> *im not in sudo group
[20:48] <joe_>  but what where u say'n about that one and convert a avi to dvd again???
[20:48] <FuriousGeorge> i want to make a user who cant upgrade the system using their password
[20:50] <joe_>  can anyone tell me how to put avi to dvd so that one can play on home dvd player???
[20:50] <BluesKaj> joe_,  how old is the dvdplayer that you want to use ?
[20:50] <joe_>  i don't know
[20:51] <BluesKaj> most avi files will play on dvdplayers 3yrs old or less
[20:51] <Viper550> I'm having issues building KDE4 stuff on Kubuntu with cmake
[20:51] <joe_>  k than how can i convert avi to vob and then put it onto a dvd?
[20:54] <FuriousGeorge> i just want to create a user that doesnt get nagged by the installer
[20:55] <FuriousGeorge> and judging by how my current user is set up, I know it has nothing to do with the 'sudo' group
[20:55] <FuriousGeorge> ahh, its the admin group
[20:56] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[21:01] <slow-motion> good night
[21:08]  * ImperialJester has a question
[21:08] <ImperialJester> Will the latest iTunes work with linux, under wine?
[21:08] <mubasherkk> hi to all
[21:09] <mubasherkk> I have a problem here
[21:09] <ImperialJester> ok...
[21:09] <mubasherkk> can anyone help me out
[21:12] <engineer> mubasherkk just ask ffs
[21:12] <genii> !apdb
[21:12] <genii> !appdb
[21:15] <mubasherkk> I am in need of a help
[21:15] <mubasherkk> can anyone help me
[21:16] <engineer> !ask | mubasherkk
[21:21] <KateKatja> !answer
[21:22] <KateKatja> !summers
[21:22] <SHAMO> what to do if they cant even reconize your videocard.....o_Õ) ??
[21:22] <SHAMO> even manual cant install it o_Õ)??
[21:25] <SHAMO> device manager ..pci ...cant roconize my ...card..o_Õ)!?!?
[21:36] <pablo> alguien me puede decir algo
[21:36] <pablo> es la primera vez que veo esto
[21:36] <tictric> no porque hablamos ingles aqui :)
[21:36] <tictric> !es | pablo
[21:36] <pablo> ok
[21:37] <Kernel> does anyone know how to make dolphin stick to one view...i switch it to detailed and change dirs and it goes back to previews
[21:37] <Kernel> its very annoying
[21:38] <tictric> Kernel, have you checked the remember folder view in preferences?
[21:39] <tictric> though I don't know how exactly this option is named in english
[21:39] <tictric> translation
[21:39] <tictric> s,translation,original, :-)
[21:39] <Kernel> tictric: i will look
[21:42] <timboy> hey how can i tell if ubuntu has my modem set up properly?
[21:42] <timboy> trying to set up dialup
[21:42] <amok47> !de
[21:58] <yakuzi> i've a strange problem: i installed the libdvdcss thing but i still can't play dvd's with kaffeine someone has an idea?
[21:59] <SHAMO> xf86config  file ...O_O) i dont have that one is that a problem ??
[22:04] <Kernel> !players
[22:05] <Kernel> LOL when trying to install banshee it says : Need to get 110MB of archives. After unpacking 471MB will be used
[22:05] <Kernel> isnt that a tad much for a mp3 player lol
[22:06] <Kernel> almost half a gig for a mp3 player...
[22:08] <dwidmann|sleep> Kernel:  it's the dependencies that are the issue
[22:08] <Kernel> yea...but THAT many?...
[22:09] <dwidmann|sleep> Kernel: if you don't have the dependencies (probably gtk and gnome  and gstreamer), it will be a hefty download
[22:09] <Kernel> half a gig of dependencys is alot
[22:10] <Kernel> well im having issues with audacious and wanted to try banshee....but thats way to many things to install just for a mp3 player.
[22:10] <Kernel> audacious keeps opening a new audacious cleint for each mp3 i play...instead of opening in the current audacious which is open.
[22:10] <Githzerai> Kernel: banshee is a gtk/gnome app so quite logicaly needs many gtk/gnome packages to work. Try kde based players like noatun or juk
[22:10] <Kernel> so i listen to 5 mp3'a.....i have 5 diff audacious windows open
[22:11] <Kernel> well i want a small easy to use player.....i really prefer xmms..but it is no longer availible... :(
[22:11] <Kernel> audacious seemed like a good alternative....but its not working right.
[22:11] <dwidmann|sleep> Kernel: noatun fits that description, it can't get any more simplistic than it
[22:12] <dwidmann|sleep> Kernel: and look at the xmms2 package
[22:12] <Kernel> dwidmann|sleep: i did install xmms2....it does nothing
[22:13] <dwidmann|sleep> Kernel: try it in a shell, you may have to install gui seperately with a different package
[22:14] <Freddy2> hello
[22:15] <Freddy2> some time ago hardy has started to loose network connectivity "sometimes" at startup, with no hardware problem (the router is working fine, and i can go to windows having network working right)
[22:16] <Freddy2> i've tried to restart networking and/or hal, but no results.. in the end i have to reboot and pray for this working fine at next startup
[22:16] <Freddy2> how/where can i look for the problem?
[22:17] <Freddy2> in ifconfig i can see a lot of dropped packets
[22:17] <dwidmann|sleep> Freddy2: I'd check your logs in /var/log/ - particularly dmesg and maybe syslog
[22:19] <Kernel> what do i need to istall for it to provide dbus-launch
[22:19] <Kernel> ?
[22:20] <Kernel> i asked the audacious guys how i can fix my problem. they pointed me to this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/207157
[22:20] <Kernel> which has this fix : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13074891/15dbus
[22:20] <Kernel> any ideas?
[22:20] <Freddy2> well, i'll take a lot at dmseg next time i have the problem.. thx
[22:20] <Kernel> !dbus
[22:21] <Kernel> *sigh* not sure kubuntu is currently what im looking for in a distro. im coming froma diff distro where everything just worked.
[22:21] <eagles0513875> !info dbus | Kernel
[22:21] <Kernel> its getting very annoying...all the little things
[22:21] <eagles0513875> Kernel: that what u looking for
[22:22] <Freddy2> at /var/log/syslog there's too much information.. XD
[22:22] <Kernel> eagles0513875: i dont think it is...as its already installed and NOT working
[22:22] <eagles0513875> !info dbus-launch
[22:23] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: check dmesg see if that give you anything if you dont need so much info
[22:23] <ares88> any of you know why java applet's don't work in firefox3 in hardy?
[22:24] <Freddy2> eagles0513875: but dmesg only shows info about current "session", isn't it?
[22:24] <Freddy2> if you reboot you will have new data, right?
[22:25] <Kernel> i havent even started to fully install all the software i need......and its already been frustrating.....1st was crappy support for wpa...which i still dont have set up exactly how i need....its jerry rigged. now this issue...while both are not huge issues....just very annoying
[22:26] <eagles0513875> ares88: they work for me make sure u have the sun-java6-jre installed
[22:26] <eagles0513875> !logrotate
[22:26] <ares88> yes
[22:26] <ares88> I have
[22:26] <eagles0513875> ares88: try purging it then running apt-get autoclean then reinstalling
[22:26] <eagles0513875> that fixed my flash issue i was having
[22:26] <KateKatja> !divx
[22:27] <KateKatja> !xvid
[22:27] <ubuntu__> greetings...somehow i got back to a a desktop...though i've been told i will have to reinstall
[22:27] <ares88> ii  sun-java6-bin                              6-06-0ubuntu1                                      Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture
[22:27] <ares88> ii  sun-java6-jdk                              6-06-0ubuntu1                                      Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6
[22:27] <ares88> ii  sun-java6-jre                              6-06-0ubuntu1                                      Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture
[22:27] <ares88> ii  sun-java6-plugin                           6-06-0ubuntu1                                      The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6
[22:28] <ubuntu__> so is someone available to help me either fix this install or recover files that *were* in my documents folder
[22:28] <ubuntu__> ?
[22:28] <ubuntu__> inik had been helping me...
[22:31] <KateKatja> !dvdcss2
[22:33] <KateKatja> !nspluginviewer
[22:33] <Freddy2> eagles0513875: according to dmesg.1 everything seems to be fine.. both dmesg.0 and dmesg.1 have been created today, so the oldest one should show info about my previous reboot (when i was with no network)
[22:34] <Freddy2> it tells the interface is up, and the driver has been loaded
[22:34] <Kernel> what do i need to install for it to provide dbus-launch? i asked the audacious guys how i can fix my problem. they pointed me to this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/207157 ...which has this fix : http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13074891/15dbus ...but there is no dbus-launch command
[22:34] <ubuntu__> Is someone available to help me repair my install...or recover files?
[22:35] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: how u trying to connect to ur interneet
[22:36] <Freddy2> i'm connected directly via ethernet with a router.. when the problem is up i can't even ping it (while usually i can..)
[22:37] <ubuntu__> okay...thanks
[22:37] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: im on a wireless one had that issue
[22:37] <eagles0513875> have u reset the router
[22:38] <Freddy2> wasn't neccesary.. other computer was using it fine, and after rebooting my computer everything worked here too
[22:38] <Freddy2> besides, even updating my dns server list with the system settings tool every time i reboot the file /etc/resolv.conf keeps only the first entry, while i use to have 3 more
[22:40] <eagles0513875> Freddy2: have u restarted the networking on the machine
[22:41] <Freddy2> i've tried with /etc/init.d/networking restart, but no results
[22:47] <yakuzi> hah dvdcss problem solved...by changing dvd source from /dev/dvd to /dev/scd1 and the use of some medibuntu stuff (but probably the medibuntu wasn't needed)
[22:50] <weswh-> for some reason, qt parted won't run for me. i have it installed, choose it from the menu launcher, it spins the icon for a while and then nothing happens...but, don't really have time for that right now :) i have a drive, sdd...USB drive that is formatted with mac fs. desperately need to format this thing ext2...is there an easy way to do that through the cli?
[22:51] <weswh-> just wipe the whole thing, ext2 the entire disk (it's 500 gig)
[22:56] <timboy> i need to have my modem autostart with ubuntu. the command is /home/tim/.modem/martian_modem /dev/modem1 how do I make this happen upon boot?
[22:56] <jussi01> !autostart
[22:57] <timboy> jussi01, has to be run as root
[22:57] <jussi01> !bum
[22:57] <jussi01> timboy: if its in /etc/rc.local it should be fine
[22:58] <jussi01> timboy: just make a little script
[22:59] <timboy> so just #!/bin/bash \ /home/tim/.modem/martian_modem /dev/modem1?
[22:59] <Chrysalis> does anyone nkow what is used in kubuntu for integrating wine... launching .exe's, the start menu integration etc?
[23:00] <jussi01> timboy: sounds about right
[23:07] <timboy> jussi01, ok great thx
[23:08] <Kernel> when i right click i mp3 there is the options of open with....there are a few options in there...id like to remove them all except for audacious.....how can i do this?
[23:08] <Kernel> for some reason audacious is the last option in the list
[23:11] <Chrysalis> settings>file associations
[23:12] <Chrysalis> x-mp3 is what you are looking for i think
[23:13] <Chrysalis> of you could just do 'open with' and save your choice
[23:13] <Kernel> ah ok let me give that a shot Chrysalis
[23:14] <timboy> jussi01, do I need to put an & after my command in the script? because I rebooted and it's been sitting at your port is /dev/modem1 for about 2 mins now...
[23:14] <Kernel> i dont see any options for file settings
[23:14] <Kernel> im using...um that new file manager
[23:14] <Kernel> dolphin?...
[23:14] <jussi01> timboy: not sure - you could try...
[23:14] <Kernel> also in dolphin....everytime i change dirs..i have to goto view>show hidden files....its VERY annoying.
[23:15] <Kernel> can i make it auto show hidden files?
[23:15] <Chrysalis> i just use konqueror ;/
[23:15] <Kernel> hmm yea...i like konq way more.
[23:16] <Kernel> mabey ill use that instead of dolphin....
[23:16] <Chrysalis> pull the navigation pannel out "F9" and save view profile in 'window'
[23:16] <Chrysalis> konq rocks
[23:17] <Kernel> in konq or dolphin?
[23:17] <Chrysalis> konq
[23:18] <Chrysalis> it also has a media tab, to drop your mp3s in
[23:20] <Kernel> ah i got it working good now in konq. thanks Chrysalis
[23:20] <timboy> jussi01, just wanted to give you an update added the & after the script and worked without a hitch. thx again
[23:22] <Chrysalis> Kernel, play around with the different view profiles and the navigation pannel to get them how you like, there really isnt much you cant do in konq once you figure it out
[23:23] <Chrysalis> viewing man pages with 'man:/' is also really usefull
[23:23] <Chrysalis> in konq
[23:24] <Kernel> right. konq is what im used to using..been using it around 4-5 years....i just though that dolphin was supposed to be better and newer with cooler features...and seeing how i just switched distros..i figured now is a good time to give it a shot....but yuck..not liking it
[23:24] <Kernel> yea or smb:/
[23:24] <Kernel> browse local shares...
[23:26] <KateKatja> Hello. I am not able to view streaming divx content even after installing mplayer plugin and such. How should I configure my mplayer now?
[23:28] <klerfayt> is it normal to format usb memory stick to ext2 filesystem? can windows xp see it?
[23:33] <AMDpenguin> is every new kubuntu release just a new kde version and a new background??????/
[23:34] <jussi01> AMDpenguin: no.
[23:43] <dwidmann|sleep> I've got a question, if anyone has any idea. That horrible thing called flash, does anybody know if with the beta for version 10 if it won't hang my browser if there are too many instances of it (ie: lots of flash in lots of tabs)
[23:49] <Chrysalis> 64bit?
[23:52] <dwidmann|sleep> Yes.
[23:53] <Chrysalis> is teh nswrapper or something like that thats eating yor resources
[23:54] <dwidmann> I don't think so ... Besides, it's quite the powerful machine, it would take quite a lot to fill 2GiB of memory
[23:55] <Chrysalis> ill suggest trying 32bit flash
[23:57] <dwidmann> It is 32-bit flash .... 64-bit browser, nspluginwrapper in use.
[23:57] <dwidmann> Also, I already have ... solutions available, I was just making an inquiry about flash 10
[23:59] <Chrysalis> no idea, was just wondering what you were using cause i had the same problem on a few 64bit machines with nspluginwrapper, it doesnt close properly and hogs your machines... switching back to 32bit fixed it on all