[00:04] <LEW21> Hmm... Also, don't you think that it will be better to have some branches imported without their relation to the trunk than just to not have them in any way? Currently, most developers are interested more in phpBB3 than in phpBB's trunk, because phpBB's trunk is under heavy development and unusable, and nobody needs MODs for it. People need MODs for 3.0, and it's available only in SVN, which doesn't help MOD developers in any way.
[00:04] <Odd_Bloke> abentley: OK, cool. :)  Thanks.
[00:05] <jelmer> Odd_Bloke,abentley: I'm happy to disable it for now, if that helps (not sure what this is about?)
[00:06] <mwhudson> LEW21: tricky question in general
[00:06] <abentley> jelmer: We have a bug where you can't update a merge proposal when one of the branches' subscribers has a private address.
[00:07] <abentley> jelmer: Because trying to notify the subscribers will cause a security check to fail.
[00:08] <LEW21> Normal programs don't have MODs and they can have only trunk imported. But web-based applications have many MODs, styles etc, and having application's branches imported will be a great help for MODders.
[00:08] <jelmer> ahh
[00:08] <mwhudson> LEW21: but it would be nice to merge your mods forward to the real trunk at some point, right?
[00:08] <mwhudson> a bzr-svn import would be better for that
[00:08] <LEW21> No
[00:09] <mwhudson> LEW21: otoh, i'm happy to do this for you if i can reserve the right to say "i told you so" at a later point ;p
[00:09] <LEW21> phpBB codebase changes so much, that no MODs will work on new minor version without big changes
[00:09] <LEW21> It's easier to rewrite them from the beginning
[00:10] <LEW21> For example phpBB 2.0 and phpBB 3.0 doesn't share any code
[00:10] <mwhudson> ok
[00:11] <mwhudson> request a phpbb3 import then?
[00:11] <LEW21> I requested phpBB3's and phpBB2's imports: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpbb/3.0 , https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpbb/2.0
[00:12] <LEW21> But phpBB2 will reach its end of life quickly, so it doesn't need to be imported
[00:14] <thumper> abentley, jelmer: it is lifeless too that has hidden his email
[00:14] <thumper> I checked earlier today
[00:21] <poolie> thumper: is there going to be a loggerhead theme update on launchpad ?
[00:21] <thumper> poolie: at some stage, but I don't know when
[00:25] <mwhudson> LEW21: is http://code.phpbb.com/svn/phpbb/branches/phpBB-3_0_0 or http://code.phpbb.com/svn/phpbb/branches/phpBB-3_0_0/phpBB more appropriate to import?
[00:25] <mwhudson> the former just seems to contain the latter...
[00:25] <LEW21> trunk contains phpBB and two other directories, I think that phpBB 3.0 should have the same directory structure
[00:26] <mwhudson> ok
[00:26]  * mwhudson hits the go button
[00:27] <LEW21> :)
[00:36] <LEW21> Ok, thanks for everything, you solved all my questions ;)
[04:27] <hansengel> hi, I have two questions with Blueprints. First, how do I add blueprints to a series?
[04:28] <hansengel> I see the Series column but I see no way to assign it
[04:39] <Laibsch> thanks, guys for https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnucash/trunk
[04:39] <Laibsch> special thanks to mwhudson, I guess
[04:40] <mwhudson> hi, did you say that before or after i just answered the question about it?
[04:40] <mwhudson> either lightning reflexes or uncanny timing :)
[04:44] <hansengel> also, are there any plans to add support for importing from Git?
[04:47] <hansengel> and last thing - I see that I can add blueprints to meeting agendas, but how do I create meeting agendas?
[04:49] <mwhudson> hansengel: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/104564
[04:49] <hansengel> okay :)
[04:51] <hansengel> mwhudson: Do you know about adding meeting agendas?
[04:51] <mwhudson> hansengel: nope
[04:51] <mwhudson> sorry
[04:51] <hansengel> okay.
[04:52] <hansengel> I'm just a bit confused - there's a mechanism for adding to agendas, but I can't find out how to actually __add__ agendas
[04:52] <hansengel> I only see two Ubuntu agendas
[04:54] <wgrant> hansengel: https://launchpad.net/sprints might help.
[04:54] <hansengel> ah, okay - there it is
[04:55] <hansengel> er, would this be the right way to register online meetings?
[04:55] <hansengel> it seems like more of a method for registering developer conferences
[04:55] <wgrant> Quite possibly not.
[04:55] <hansengel> yeah, and these look like they can be globally accessed, too
[04:55] <wgrant> They can.
[04:56] <hansengel> Yes, I won't use this, then. Is there any other way to have project meeting schedules? Or should I use a different service for that part?
[05:08] <Laibsch> mwhudson: before you answered the question
[05:08] <mwhudson> Laibsch: cool :)
[05:39] <hansengel> Hi, how long (typically) does it take for a translation file to be reviewed and imported?
[05:39] <hansengel> also, how can I make a bug look like this:
[05:39] <hansengel> http://www.grabup.com/uploads/92bf46dad75eee032de864f7081661de.jpg
[05:40] <hansengel> where the project's bug row says 'Status tracked in <series>'
[05:40] <hansengel> and then I only need to edit one row
[05:40] <wgrant> hansengel: That happens if you nominate for the development series.
[05:41] <hansengel> development series?
[05:41] <wgrant> Yes.
[05:41] <wgrant> Development focus maybe. I forget.
[05:41] <wgrant> I don't deal with projects much.
[05:41] <hansengel> What do you mean by that?
[05:42] <wgrant> You can set a series of each project as the development focus.
[05:42] <hansengel> In the details for the series, I have the status set to 'Active Development'.. is that what you mean?
[05:43] <wgrant> See the 'Change details' page for your project. The development focus is set near the bottom.
[05:43] <hansengel> ah, okay
[05:44] <hansengel> it works! thanks :)
[07:18] <wgrant> s/50 Most recently uploaded packages/50 most recently uploaded packages that have a PUBLISHED SPP/
[07:18] <wgrant> Please don't be so misleading.
[07:29] <wgrant> (bug #249772)
[08:57] <Rodrigo> Vito0r
[08:57] <Rodrigo> ;D
[08:57] <Rodrigo> tem OP nessa buceta nao
[08:57] <Rodrigo> akakaka
[08:57] <Vito0r> [PUPPETS]Gonzo,\sh,abentley,Adri2000,ajmitch,alexanderwz,AndrewB,asac,bac,barry-away,bdmurray,beuno,bimberi,BjornT,cody-somerville,cyberixae,daq4th,elmargol,elmo,emgent,eyalev,fdd,geser,Grantbow,herb,Hobbsee,ilb_18,IRSeekBot2,jamesh_,JanC,javamaniac,jcastro,jelmer,jkakar,jkang,jml,jordi,jpds,jscinoz,Kaleo,kiko,klette,knmurphy`,Laibsch,lamont,Laney,LarstiQ,leoquant,lifeless,lionel,mars,Martinp23,mdz,merriam,mikro,mpt,mtaylor
[08:57] <Vito0r> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:57] <Rodrigo> hi man
[08:58] <Vito0r> hi
[08:58] <Vito0r> kc
[08:58] <Vito0r> T
[08:59] <emgent> ...
[08:59] <Vito0r> emgent :]
[08:59] <emgent> !ops
[08:59] <Vito0r> hi mi friend
[08:59] <Vito0r> Rodrigo :ooooooo
[08:59] <Vito0r> Rodrigo :ooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:59] <Vito0r> !ops noooooo
[08:59] <Vito0r> no kick me
[08:59] <Vito0r> no kick me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:59] <Vito0r> :(
[09:00] <Vito0r> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:00] <Rodrigo> Vito0r kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:00] <Vito0r> ubottu :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[09:00] <Vito0r> ubottu :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[09:00] <Rodrigo> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:00] <Vito0r> .:ubottu: SORRY!!!!!
[09:00] <Vito0r> [ubottu]: SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:00] <Vito0r> AUSHDUASHDAUSHDASUDH
[09:00] <Vito0r> VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão 
[09:00] <Vito0r> ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade... ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade!
[09:00] <wgrant> !ops
[09:00] <Vito0r> UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
[09:00] <Vito0r> UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
[09:00] <emgent> !ops | troll here.
[09:00] <Vito0r> ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade... ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade!
[09:00] <Vito0r> ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade... ExpLode coRação na maioR feLiciDadE! É linDo meu VerDão contagiaNdo e saKudinDo essa ciDade!
[09:00] <Vito0r> VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão Êoooo... VerDão 
[09:00] <Rodrigo> Vito0r FUCK YOU
[09:00] <Rodrigo> Vito0r FUCK YOUUUU
[09:01] <Rodrigo> man
[09:01] <wgrant> Ah, lifeless, thanks.
[09:01]  * cody-somerville cries.
[09:01] <Vito0r> Sorry
[09:01] <Vito0r> :(
[09:01]  * Vito0r STOP
[09:01] <Rodrigo> Vito0r sana fabiti
[09:01] <Rodrigo> Vito0r sana fabiti
[09:01] <Rodrigo> kakakak
[09:01] <Vito0r> lifeless :(
[09:01] <Vito0r> sorry
[09:01]  * Vito0r STOP
[09:01] <Rodrigo> kkkk
[09:01] <elmargol> :(
[09:01] <Vito0r> elmargol :(
[09:01] <Vito0r> im brazilian man
[09:02] <lifeless> please stop using the flashing highlights
[09:02]  * Vito0r im is beautiful man
[09:02] <Vito0r> brazilian
[09:02] <Vito0r> ok lifeless.
[09:02] <Rodrigo> what?
[09:02] <Rodrigo> kaka
[09:02] <Vito0r> Rodrigo im from brazil
[09:02]  * wgrant would remove them both.
[09:02] <Vito0r> im beautiful man. :]
[09:02] <Rodrigo> yess
[09:02] <Vito0r> Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. :]
[09:02]  * wgrant also recommends setting colour filtering on the channel.
[09:02] <Rodrigo> lifeless he from Brazil
[09:02] <Rodrigo> ;D
[09:02] <Vito0r> yes
[09:03] <lifeless> wgrant: link me up I'll do it
[09:03] <Vito0r> lifeless //mode #launchpad +v+v Vito0r Rodrigo
[09:03] <cody-somerville> lifeless, type: /mode +c
[09:03] <wgrant> OK, Vito0r really dies now.
[09:03] <Rodrigo> yess
[09:03] <Rodrigo> what?
[09:03] <lifeless> Vito0r: Rodrigo: we're happy to have you here and give you help, but the volume of lines you are doing is too much, and the fliashing things really must stop
[09:03] <wgrant> cody-somerville is correct, I believe.
[09:03] <Vito0r> IM NO UNDERSTAND
[09:04] <Vito0r> HAHAHA
[09:04] <Vito0r> traduz ae Rodrigo
[09:04] <Rodrigo> peri
[09:04] <Rodrigo> Vito0r falou alguma coisa
[09:04] <Rodrigo> q é bom agente tar aqui
[09:04] <Rodrigo> mas tamo falando d+
[09:04] <Rodrigo> of lines you are doing is too much
[09:04] <Rodrigo> Vito0r
[09:05] <Vito0r> [lifeless]: Yeahhhhhhhhh. Tank'ss very muschhhhhhhh!
[09:05] <Rodrigo> e devemos para
[09:05] <Vito0r> :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[09:05] <Rodrigo> hsauhas
[09:05] <Vito0r> Ok lifeless, stop.
[09:05]  * Vito0r stop
[09:05] <wgrant> Interesting that they're both chastising each other. This is revolutionary.
[09:05] <Vito0r> stop = parar Rodrigo?
[09:05] <cody-somerville>  /mode +b *!*@*.gnace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br <-- is a good one too.
[09:06] <wgrant> Danke.
[09:06] <lifeless> hate doing it, but sometimes its needed
[09:06] <lifeless> I'll unban them in a couple of hours
[09:06] <wgrant> Not too often in here, fortunately.
[09:06] <cody-somerville> The ones that do come in here are rather colourful, no?
[09:06] <wgrant> Not any more :)
[09:10] <leoquant> fascinating irrational though
[09:17] <jordi> yeah, that was pretty bizarre
[09:54] <AnAnt> Hello, anyone knows when this bug: #207625 will be solved ?
[10:17] <capiscuas1982> hi guys, i don't find the option in laucnhpad to remove a release from my project
[10:17] <capiscuas1982> is there any?
[10:23] <kiko> capiscuas1982, it's a bug, but if you ask a Question (see /topic) we can sort it out
[10:24] <bdmurray> What is the bug watch in bug 248921?
[10:27] <AnAnt> anyone knows when this bug: 207625 will be solved ?
[10:27] <BjornT> bdmurray: that looks like a bug. no bug watch should have been created there.
[10:28] <bdmurray> BjornT: shall I report it?
[10:28] <BjornT> bdmurray: yes, please
[10:29] <kiko> AnAnt, most likely in august.
[10:29] <AnAnt> kiko: thanks
[10:29] <kiko> AnAnt, it's unfortunate but not really a critical issue, and we're about to finish up our 2.0 cycle
[10:29] <kiko> you're welcome! :)
[10:29] <wgrant> Heh.
[10:30]  * wgrant is looking forward to 2.0 and the bugfixing that might follow.
[10:30] <kiko> wgrant, whew, that's two of us -- august is basically bugfixes and planning
[10:33] <wgrant> Sounds good.
[10:37] <desrt> can somebody please help me to disable an email address in launchpad?
[10:37] <kiko> desrt, sure. what's up?
[10:37] <desrt> i get an awful lot of spam via desrt@ubuntu.com
[10:37] <desrt> and nobody ever actually emails me there
[10:37] <desrt> so i just want it disabled
[10:38] <desrt> (alternatively, the ubuntu sysadmins could enable greylisting to great positive effect)
[10:38] <kiko> desrt, oh, hmm. I don't know how to solve that one. can you ask our IS team? the aliases are actually not set up in launchpad
[10:38] <desrt> hmm.
[10:38] <desrt> do they have a channel?
[10:38] <kiko> I think it's #canonical-sysadmin
[10:39] <kiko> but IMBW
[10:39] <desrt> thanks for the pointer
[10:39] <wgrant> kiko: is correct.
[10:39] <wgrant> I imagine #is is somewhat easier to remember.
[10:41] <kiko> wgrant, it's #is on the canonical IRC server!
[10:41] <wgrant> kiko: It is to I was referring.
[10:41] <wgrant> *to that
[10:42] <Stavros> hello
[10:43] <Stavros> is there support for listing all the answers in a large FAQ document?
[10:43] <Stavros> or perhaps selected answers
[10:43] <proppy> Hi, I'm trying to do  bzr branch lp:txprotobuf but I get the following error bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "https://code.launchpad.net/"
[10:43] <proppy> Ah now I can, it was only a matter of time
[10:45] <Romario> hey folks, can anyone have a look at the following ppa https://launchpad.net/~gscrot/+archive
[10:45] <Romario> there are 6 packages published
[10:46] <Romario> but under packages there are only 3 binary packages listed
[10:46] <Romario> i copied the 3 packages from another ppa
[10:47] <wgrant> That is strange.
[10:47] <lifeless> wow:
[10:47] <lifeless> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-rebase/+bug/249823/@@popup-window?search=uws&vocabulary=ValidPersonOrTeam&field=field.person#
[10:47] <lifeless> check out the personal details in that list
[10:48] <wgrant> Does one have to wait for queue-builder to come along for copies, as there is no upload-time to create builds?
[10:48] <proppy> how long does it take to launchpad to check the revision of a pushed branch ?
[10:48] <wgrant> lifeless: Nice.
[10:48] <wgrant> proppy: It seems to be fairly slow today.
[10:48] <Stavros> how can i create a proper FAQ on lp, with many questions/answers in the same page?
[10:49] <proppy> wgrant: thanks
[10:49] <Romario> anything i can do to solve my problem, e.g. upload my packeges again?
[10:50] <wgrant> Romario: You might have to wait a while for the builds to appear, but kiko would know better.
[10:52] <Romario> well, the problem is not new but i noticed it today because some users discovered the problem
[10:52] <kiko> https://edge.launchpad.net/~jjveenboer
[10:52] <kiko> bigjools, al-maisan: can either of you help Romario?
[10:52] <Romario> so i copied the packages again, but still no luck. i don't know if it helps to wait
[10:52] <wgrant> kiko: Hahaha.
[10:52] <wgrant> Useful breadcrumb.
[10:53] <wgrant> 'Latest memberships' is good too.
[10:54] <wgrant> And the wikiname.
[10:54] <bigjools> yes, we're looking
[10:54] <wgrant> It crashes Moin :(
[10:57] <kblin> hi folks
[10:58] <Stavros> how can i reorder my FAQs?
[10:59] <kblin> the recent launchpad layout changes broke my project's branding somewhat, as the logo is designed to be on the left side of content
[11:00] <kblin> is the "branding" image shown anywhere else than on my project's page?
[11:02] <Romario> anything i can do to help you?
[11:04] <bigjools> Romario: we're checking the logs, I'll get back to you in a moment
[11:04] <Romario> thx
[11:04] <kblin> I'm a bit confused by the fact that the location of the image for people didn't change to the other side of the page
[11:06] <proppy> Hi (again), whi https://edge.launchpad.net/txprotobuf state, Status: Doesn’t use Code
[11:06] <proppy> is that because the branch has not been scanned yet ?
[11:08] <bigjools> mwhudson, jml, around? ^^
[11:08] <wgrant> proppy: Probably because you didn't say that your project used Launchpad Code.
[11:08] <wgrant> proppy: You'll find that option in 'Change details' for the project.
[11:09] <lifeless> is it possible to get an rss field of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bugs?field.tag=performance ?
[11:09] <lifeless> proppy: click on the link 'trunk' on https://edge.launchpad.net/txprotobuf
[11:09] <bdmurray> lifeless: I don't think there are rss feeds for searches
[11:09] <proppy> wgrant: lifeless: thanks
[11:09] <lifeless> proppy: oh, looks like its configured already
[11:10] <lifeless> bdmurray: man, I so want one
[11:10] <bdmurray> me too
[11:10] <proppy> lifeless: yep just changed as wgrant adivsed
[11:11] <lifeless> proppy: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~proppy/txprotobuf/master/changes is available already
[11:11] <capiscuas1982> kiko: thanks, i'll ask that question
[11:12] <proppy> lifeless: nice
[11:19] <lifeless> asac: you gues going to be much longer in there?
[11:25] <cprov> Romario: your case is messy,  why do you have ping-pong the packages across that many PPAs ?
[11:26] <Romario> well the developers put there packages in their own ppa
[11:26] <cprov> Romario: anyway, you haven't copy the gscrot-plugins-bash - 0.0.9-1~ppa3  binaries
[11:26] <Romario> and then wir copy them to the beta repos and finally to the official repo
[11:27] <Romario> ok, so i have to copy the packages again with option "copy binaries"?
[11:30] <Romario> what is the purpose to copy packages without this option? copying only sources doesn't make sense to me
[11:30] <asac> lifeless: we are about to leave the room now
[11:31] <asac> ;)
[11:31] <asac> lifeless: you want this room or me?
[11:33] <bigjools> Romario: you need to delete and re-copy it
[11:34] <Romario> ok, i'll try that
[11:34] <Romario> thx
[11:34] <bigjools> there was a bug that we fixed in yesterday's rollout
[11:34] <bigjools> it was allowing you to copy binaries when there were none
[11:35] <Romario> i see
[11:37] <cprov> Romario: gscrot-testing-team has the right binaries (plugins-bash), however is has the rebuilt/broken gscrot binaries
[11:39] <Romario> there are 3 packages named gscrot_0.40~ppa2_all.deb for each release, right?`
[11:39] <Romario> is thar correct?
[11:41] <cprov> Romario: no, there should be only one
[11:41] <Romario> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16109118/gscrot_0.40%7Eppa2_all.deb
[11:41] <Romario> the differ in the number in the url
[11:42] <Romario> what does the number mean?
[11:42] <Romario> timestamp?
[11:43] <cprov> Romario: no just an ID to a file occurrence (different numbers might have the same content, though)
[11:43] <Romario> ok, well there is definitely the correct package behind all three ids
[11:43] <cprov> Romario: AFAICS, you've copied only the  gscrot - 0.40~ppa2  source from your PPA to the gscrot-testing PPA, is that true ?
[11:44] <Romario> yes, thats right
[11:44] <cprov> Romario: all at the same time, as well
[11:44] <Romario> another dev is responsible for the plugins
[11:44] <Romario> right
[11:45] <cprov> Romario: ok, that's a bug. simultaneous source-only copies will result in conflicting builds
[11:47] <Romario> ok, maybe i should upload them to the specified ppa instead of copying around
[11:48] <Romario> the official repo is fixed now https://launchpad.net/~gscrot/+archive, thanks
[11:48] <cprov> Romario: no, you can copy, it's fine.
[11:48] <cprov> Romario: you just have to copy one at time until I get the bug fixed.
[11:49] <Romario> you said it my case was messy ;-)
[11:50] <cprov> Romario: no problem, we like complex cases ;)
[11:50] <Romario> hehe, ok thank you
[11:50] <Romario> bye
[11:57] <bdmurray> BjornT: I've an e-mail about a bug that says NEW in the subject that isn't really new.  I think it says NEW because I was subscribed to it so its new to me?
[11:57] <kiko> bdmurray, can you attach that full message to bug 249832?
[11:59] <BjornT> bdmurray: right. there is a bug reported about that. it's kind of correct, since the bug is new to you, but then again, the bug itself isn't new.
[11:59] <bdmurray> I think that one is more about having a header indicating if the mail is the first message ever
[12:01] <kiko> BjornT, it's not correct, it's crazy!!
[12:02] <BjornT> bdmurray: as a workaround, you can check whether the References header is there. if it's not there, it's the first message.
[12:02] <bdmurray> I'm over it but kiko thought it was odd
[12:02] <BjornT> kiko: well, it's still *kind of* correct :)
[12:03] <kiko> heh
[12:03] <BjornT> kiko: i mean, what do you use [NEW] for? i use to to find bugs i haven't seen before.
[12:04] <kiko> I use it to tell bugs which are new versus bugmail for bugs which are not new. I think whether or not I was subscribed originally is irrelevant -- [NEW] is for the initial bug triage
[12:05] <bdmurray> I've tried to use it to find first messages about a bug
[12:06] <BjornT> kiko: so, if someone adds a launchpad task to a bug, you would expect that mail to have [NEW], or not?
[12:06] <bdmurray>  [NEW] can also show up in replies to like "Re: [NEW]" which is quite odd
[12:06] <AnMaster> hi who do you report to when a vcs import repo has the wrong url
[12:06] <AnMaster> ?
[12:06] <AnMaster> the repo for https://launchpad.net/crossfire-client points to the old cvs repo
[12:06] <AnMaster> we use svn since several years
[12:10] <AnMaster> the same is true for https://launchpad.net/crossfire-server and https://launchpad.net/crossfire-arch
[12:11] <AnMaster> I hope someone can fix it
[12:12] <thumper> AnMaster: file a question against launchpad-bazaar
[12:12] <kiko> AnMaster, I can fix that if you ask a question
[12:12] <thumper> AnMaster: and poke me about it
[12:12] <thumper> :)
[12:13]  * thumper is away
[12:13] <AnMaster> kiko, but not if I ask over irc?
[12:13] <AnMaster> that's odd
[12:13] <thumper> AnMaster: I will do it but I'm about to sleep
[12:13] <thumper> AnMaster: hence something to remind me tomorrow
[12:13] <AnMaster> ah
[12:13] <AnMaster> where is this file bug or whatever form?
[12:13] <kiko> AnMaster, see /topic
[12:14] <AnMaster> (oh btw I prefered the old design of launchpad, as it was when I last used it about a month or two ago)
[12:14] <AnMaster> (the new layout is messy, even harder to find where things are located)
[12:14] <AnMaster> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad <-- that one?
[12:15] <andrea-bs> AnMaster: I think you are looking for bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+filebug
[12:15] <AnMaster> well I will file then..
[12:15] <AnMaster> oh?
[12:16] <AnMaster> well kiko said "ask a question", so decide
[12:16] <andrea-bs> ah, sorry
[12:16] <andrea-bs> I saw you said you were about to file a bug
[12:17] <AnMaster> "These FAQs seems similar to your question. Take a look at them, you may find your answer in one these." <-- why does "crossfire vcs-import repos urls are wrong" seem similar to "Is it possible to link a project to packages in a PPA?" and "Just sent my gpg key to the keyserver but Launchpad can't import it. What should I do?"
[12:17]  * AnMaster shakes head at logic
[12:22] <AnMaster> kiko, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/39570
[12:24] <kblin> AnMaster: dunno, I'm just annoyed that they changed the position of the project logo
[12:24] <AnMaster> kblin, well not only that, but the whole layout looks messy
[12:25] <AnMaster> even worse than sourceforge (a layout that is uggly but at least usable)
[12:25] <wgrant> How's it messy?
[12:25] <wgrant> I don't particularly like the whole new UI, but messy is not how I'd describe it.
[12:25] <AnMaster> a sec for an example
[12:26] <AnMaster> just look at user pages
[12:26] <AnMaster> the change details stuff
[12:26] <AnMaster> it was much more cleanly organized before
[12:26] <AnMaster> the same box on the *left* side as projects used to have
[12:26] <AnMaster> yes that box should be on left side
[12:28] <AnMaster> there are lots more issues, but I'm busy coding
[12:49] <Hobbsee> well done.  now even you guys are getting trolled.
[12:50] <AnMaster> hey I'm not a troll
[12:50] <AnMaster> it is just that major design changes are confusing, if you are used to how it worked before
[12:51] <AnMaster> which is why they are a bad idea, as users knowing how it works get put off by it
[12:57] <Hobbsee> no, not you
[12:58] <Hobbsee> the few that were spamming earlier
[12:58] <Hobbsee> An'
[12:59] <Hobbsee> AnMaster: you're just adding to the multiple pieces of feedback, many not so positive, on lp.
[13:00] <AnMaster> heh
[13:01] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[13:01] <AnMaster> Hobbsee, I normally work with trac (my own private projects using bzr) or sf.net (crossfire) or custom systems (mix of mantis, mediawiki and viewvc + running svn repo ourself, on the supertux project)
[13:01] <Hobbsee> heya mpt!
[13:01] <Hobbsee> AnMaster: ahh
[13:11] <mpt> lifeless, did you report a bug on the overflow?
[13:18] <mpt> nm, reported bug 249848
[13:32] <cjwatson> Hi, is the codehosting branch scanner broken? I pushed https://code.launchpad.net/~kamion/ubiquity/kernel-cd-root to bazaar.lp.net something like an hour ago, but it hasn't been scanned yet; past experience suggests it should be more like 5 minutes
[13:40] <kiko> cjwatson, it was broken a few hours ago. is it broken again? :-(
[13:45] <cjwatson> kiko: well, still hasn't scanned that branch at any rate, I don't know where the breakage is
[13:45] <cjwatson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kamion/ubiquity/kernel-cd-root/changes shows the branch as expected
[13:45] <LarstiQ> woo, I only just now saw the new design.
[14:50] <uws> Cool, I get a KeyboardInterrupt error on launchpad! :)
[14:50] <uws> http://code.launchpad.net/~uws/webkit-open-source/webkit.trunk
[14:54] <kiko> wow, that's weird!
[14:54] <uws> kiko: I should note that my local repository for that branch is ~1GB ;)
[14:55] <uws> I just tried it ;)
[14:55] <uws> Just trying to use bzr with larger repositories (also for gnome)
[14:55] <uws> pushing to that branch seems to work fine
[14:55] <lifeless> uws: btw btree-plain will almost certainly be faster for you for rebase
[14:55] <lifeless> uws: but I'm working on the core problem right now
[14:55] <lifeless> uws: are you running rebase from a apckage?
[14:55] <uws> lifeless: ROCK ON
[14:55] <uws> yes, debian.
[14:56] <uws> 0.3-1.1
[14:56] <uws> lifeless: So the webkit.trunk pushing was succesful
[14:56] <uws> but now the page on launchpad gives a KeyboardInterrupt ;)
[14:56] <uws> If I push my webkit.uws branch as well, will I have to repush all revisions?
[14:57]  * uws is not sure about the launchpad repo layout
[14:57] <lifeless> uws: could you please grab a screenshot of that and file a bug :)
[14:58] <lifeless> uws: I just checked with the sysadmins and they haven't done anything that could conceptually cause this, so its a bug in the branch scanner
[14:58] <lifeless> uws: yes, unless you use a stacked branch, which I *think* has fully landed into launchpad
[14:59] <uws> So launchpad doesn't use repos, just stand-alone branches?
[15:01] <uws> lifeless: that means I'm wasting ~1GB of disk space ;)
[15:04] <uws> lifeless, kiko : malone bug #249863
[15:13] <uws> btw, pushing to that branch tells me the branch is up to date
[15:13] <uws> but "bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~uws/webkit-open-source/webkit.trunk" gives me 0 revisions
[15:14] <lifeless> uws: thats because the mirror to the public side hasn't finished
[15:14] <lifeless> uws: stacked branches address this - mirroring is much faster
[15:18] <cjwatson> ... and https://code.launchpad.net/~kamion/ubiquity/kernel-cd-root still hasn't updated so I would have to assume that the branch scanner is having serious problems
[15:18] <cjwatson> (or that a massive queue of death built up while it was broken and it's still working through it)
[15:18] <uws> cjwatson: Yeah the ~vcs-import webkit trunk has no mirror either
[15:18] <uws> so I created my own ;)
[15:18] <cjwatson> uws: right, I was replying to you :)
[15:19] <uws> I'd love to share my bzr-svn mirror for webkit trunk
[15:19] <uws> i took me 3 days to build it
[15:19] <uws> rather share it with others if possible :)
[15:22] <newz2000> hi, was wondering if anyone here has had any success using launchpad's openid in a django app yet
[15:23] <newz2000> so far I've only gotten it to work if the user knows their openid url
[15:23] <LarstiQ> launchpad has openid?
[15:23] <newz2000> https://help.launchpad.net/OpenID is what I found
[15:24] <LarstiQ> cool, now to find something where I can use that.
[15:26] <elmargol> LarstiQ, works on identi.ca too
[16:03] <hansengel> Hi, I'd like to know - how long does it typically take for a .po/.pot file to be reviewed/accepted?
[17:01] <geser> was the text box to enter bug comments always that slim? on edge it currently uses only half of the available space
[17:03] <kiko> geser, no, it's a bug that allenap is fixing.
[17:04] <geser> ok, so no need to file it anymore?
[18:51] <doctormo> Hello
[18:51] <doctormo> I created a project and branch for some code I'm developing, so I can share it
[18:51] <doctormo> https://code.launchpad.net/django-deployer
[18:51] <doctormo> But I can't be sure I've commited the code right
[18:51] <doctormo> launchpad says there is no commits, although bzr says it's pushed to ver 2
[18:54] <kiko> doctormo, there's something stuck in the branch scanner; I've asked someone to take a look into it but most people are in australia and asleep!
[18:55] <beuno> doctormo, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~doctormo/django-deployer/trunk/changes
[18:55] <beuno> branch seems to have pushed fine
[18:55] <beuno> (I cooked that URL manually, btw)
[18:58] <cody-somerville> Is launchpad code stuff broken?
[18:58] <cody-somerville> Some of my developers are reporting inability to branch
[18:59] <kiko> cody-somerville, branching should be working fine, but the branch scanner hasn't picked up new revisions yet
[19:08] <doctormo> thanks guys for letting me know, I was worried there
[19:23] <cody-somerville> gah
[19:23] <cody-somerville> bzr is being really slow.
[19:23] <cody-somerville> I always found using the smart server on lp was very fast.
[19:24] <beuno> cody-somerville, what version of bzr are you using?
[19:24] <cody-somerville> 1.6b3
[19:24] <beuno> ah, cutting edge
[19:25] <beuno> I was going to recommend you upgrade, but you can't go much higher than that  :)
[19:26] <cody-somerville> Could there be something wrong with my branch?
[19:27] <beuno> cody-somerville, what's the URL for the branch?
[19:27] <cody-somerville> lp:sapidlib
[19:27] <beuno> one possibility is that it's knit format in LP, and packs in your comp
[19:28] <beuno> cody-somerville, indeed  :)
[19:28] <cody-somerville> I'm trying to branch, remember
[19:28] <beuno> cody-somerville, bzr upgrade sftp://...
[19:28] <beuno> cody-somerville, into a shared repo?
[19:29] <cody-somerville> no
[19:29] <beuno> then I'm out of ideas
[19:29] <beuno> I do recommend upgrading the branch though
[19:29] <beuno> unless some developer is using bzr < 0.92
[19:30]  * cody-somerville is upgrading.
[19:30] <beuno> cody-somerville, also, a little secret, branching over http/sftp is faster than the smart server
[19:31] <beuno> for now, until that gets fixed
[19:31] <LarstiQ> what is broken?
[19:31] <beuno> the rest of the operations are faster (push/pull/merge), because it takes advantage of knowing what revisions to ask for
[19:32] <beuno> LarstiQ, I don't know that much about it, but Robert explained it at the sprint, and a few times after that
[19:32] <beuno> something that needed tweaking
[19:32] <cody-somerville> beuno, how long does the upgrade take? Is there any display of progress? :S
[19:32] <beuno> cody-somerville, it may take quite a bit, as it copies a lot of data around. Progress bar will be very unhelpful during the process  :)
[19:32] <beuno> but it's worth it, packs are *way* faster/stable
[19:33] <cody-somerville> beuno, it the branch locked as I do this?
[19:33] <beuno> cody-somerville, for write operations, probably
[19:34] <emet> what does this mean
[19:34] <emet>  This branch has not been scanned yet.
[19:34] <emet> does that mean it was successfully pushed?
[19:35] <beuno> emet, that LP's code scan is a bit behind. Ignore that, everything is probably fine. What's the URL for it?
[19:35] <emet> https://code.launchpad.net/~jbenjos/pash/gsoc
[19:36] <beuno> emet, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jbenjos/pash/gsoc/changes
[19:36] <beuno> everything looks fine
[19:36] <beuno> code scanner will eventually catch up
[19:37] <emet> okay
[19:38] <emet> another thing, how do I fix this:  This project‘s license has not been reviewed.
[19:38] <emet> project is licensed under the MIT X11
[19:39] <beuno> emet, have you set it in:  https://launchpad.net/pash/+edit
[19:40] <beuno> the last bit is "Licenses:"
[19:40] <beuno> ah, you have
[19:40] <emet> all my code is MIT X11 but there is some Ms-PL code that MSFT wrote in the project
[19:41] <beuno> I suppose some LP-admin has to look at it, but I'm not really sure
[19:41] <emet> Ms-PL is basically like the same type of license
[19:41] <emet> okay
[20:37] <cody-somerville> beuno, should it still be on "backup of tree history"?
[20:42] <emet> what does karma do exactly
[20:43] <beuno> cody-somerville, it could be, yes
[20:44] <beuno> what's the size of the repo?
[20:44] <cody-somerville> wow
[20:44] <cody-somerville> 46mb
[20:45] <beuno> then it will take a while  :)
[20:45] <cody-somerville> beuno, why is it so big? I only have under 100 revisions.
[20:46] <beuno> cody-somerville, how big is the working tree?
[20:48] <cody-somerville> beuno, 18mb I guess
[20:49] <beuno> cody-somerville, well, depending on the amount of changes done, it seems fine
[20:49] <beuno> maybe someone added and removed a big file at some point
[20:57] <cody-somerville> beuno, would it not be better for to upgrade it locally and then push?
[20:58] <emet> damn is launchpad like super slow?
[21:00] <beuno> cody-somerville, bzr doesn't push formats, so that doesn't work
[21:00] <beuno> you'll have to upgrade locally too  :/
[21:02] <cody-somerville> How can it not push formats? :S
[21:03] <cody-somerville> I thought pushing was just like copying the files over.
[21:03] <beuno> cody-somerville, bzr magic
[21:03] <cody-somerville> beuno, Is there any way I can see if it is actually doing anything useful?
[21:04] <beuno> cody-somerville, peak at:  ~/.bzr.log
[21:04] <cody-somerville> Lots of "<dir> isn't a branch" errors.
[21:04] <beuno> cody-somerville, that's from bzr's ppa
[21:05] <beuno> cody-somerville, we're waiting on skype  :)
[21:05] <cody-somerville> beuno, I suppose I could do the call here at the office, one second.
[21:06] <beuno> cody-somerville, bzr 1.6rc2 has bad packaging, and installs garbage in /etc/bash-something
[22:15] <ronny> hi
[22:16] <ronny> got some issues with lp bzr branching
[22:16] <ronny> i created a project branch, and lp told me to push via "bzr push lp:~ronny-pfannschmidt/vellum/experiment"
[22:17] <ronny> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[22:17] <ronny> any idea what i am missing?
[22:17] <salgado> ronny, you need to 'bzr launchpad-login'
[22:18] <beuno> bzr launchpad-login ronny-pfannschmidt
[22:18] <beuno> to be precise
[22:18] <beuno> then push again, and add  --use-existing-dir
[22:18] <beuno> ah, salgado, maybe you can help me pin this bug. Can you peak at code hosting?
[22:19] <beuno> when you push with lp:whatever, but don't have lp-login set, Launchpad created the directory anyway
[22:19] <beuno> which is odd, since http is read-only
[22:20] <salgado> beuno, that's odd indeed.  I can't help much, though
[22:20] <salgado> it'd be better to talk to thumper
[22:21] <beuno> salgado, will do, thanks
[22:24] <ronny> works fine new except for the known lack of speed of bzr net operations
[22:29] <cody-somerville> beuno, it is doing something. :]
[22:29] <beuno> cody-somerville, yay!
[22:30] <cody-somerville> beuno, starting repository conversion
[22:30] <cody-somerville> now on stage 3/4
[22:51] <emet> hey
[22:51] <emet> guys
[22:51] <emet> https://code.launchpad.net/~jbenjos/pash/gsoc
[22:51] <emet> this has been saying " This branch has not been scanned yet. " for a few hours already
[22:51] <emet> is that normal?
[22:52] <beuno> emet, yes, the code scanner is delayed
[22:52] <emet> O_o
[22:58] <nedko> when packages deleted from ppa get fully removed, so i can upload updated ones
[22:58] <nedko> ?
[23:21] <ronny> whats the best way to remove a svn mirror from launchpad ? (we switched to hg ages ago)
[23:29] <ronny> anyone?
[23:31] <aa_> hi, seems I can't obsolete a branch that is a vcs import from the days when the project used to use svn. I get the "change branch details" for other branches but not this one. This is the branch I am talking about: lp:~vcs-imports/pida/trunk
[23:39] <cprov> nedko: you can only upload higher source versions to PPAs (and ubuntu)
[23:39] <nedko> cprov: ok, thanks
[23:39] <cprov> nedko: np
[23:42] <cody-somerville> beuno, it is deleting old repository content now
[23:42] <cody-somerville> beuno, Can I just rebranch this instead of upgrading my local branch?
[23:42] <beuno> cody-somerville, ah, it's taking a while
[23:42] <beuno> cody-somerville, yes, as long as you don'r have a shares repo
[23:45] <gdoubleu> anyone here have the ability to see why the django trunk import hasn't picked up any trunk commits after svn rev 7941?
[23:46] <gdoubleu> I forced an import about 30 min ago, but no updates.  there are some warning in the logs though, if that means anything.
[23:47] <beuno> gdoubleu, this is probably the worst time to catch an admin. I'd say file a question in launchpad-bazaar about it