LSD|Ninja | I just noticed there a new version of the 96.xx.xx nVidia drivers. How long befopre they make it into the repos? | 00:04 |
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Light- | eh, 96.xx.xx is the really old version isnt it? I thought we were up to 176.xx.xx or something | 00:04 |
Light- | ohwait, I guess the 96.xx.xx drivers are for the really old cards | 00:05 |
Light- | dont mind me :P | 00:06 |
LSD|Ninja | Yeah, my Ubuntu machine has a GF2MX400 :P | 00:06 |
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elik | Hi, I am a Debian Lenny user and recently switched over to Ubuntu (Kubuntu actually) Hardy Heron. I am a little disappointed to see that the version of some programs I used is more outdated that on Debian, and I am considering upgrading to Ubuntu I... I... How stable is it compared to Lenny? | 01:59 |
Light- | Try it and see, stability usually varies from user to user because people use their systems differently | 02:00 |
Light- | run it in vbox for a while if you want to keep debian around incase you discover its more stable | 02:01 |
LSD|Ninja | Normal releases are reasonably stable, Intrepid is very much alpha software at present so lots of things are very, very broken | 02:01 |
elik | Hum | 02:02 |
elik | I'll give it a try, my system is brand new | 02:03 |
elik | if it breaks, it won't be too much of a pain to just reinstall it | 02:04 |
elik | They always told me I was a risk taker :P | 02:04 |
elik | Is it as simple as changing the sources, updating and dist-upgrading? | 02:04 |
LSD|Ninja | elik: update-manager -d will do it all for you | 02:05 |
LSD|Ninja | Probably better to set aside a machine or partition seperate to your main install and use a CD to install though | 02:05 |
elik | why is that? | 02:06 |
elik | direct update like that is not so reliable? | 02:06 |
elik | considering I just installed the system today, is that worth the hassle? | 02:07 |
elik | as long as my other partitions are untouched, I'm fine with reinstalling hardy | 02:07 |
elik | hum, update-manager sound like a bad idea, considering I'm on KDE | 02:09 |
LSD|Ninja | there's probably somethign similar for KDE, I'm not familiar enough with kubuntu to know what it is though | 02:09 |
elik | yeah, adept installer, but I don't see anywhere where I can change the version | 02:10 |
elik | anyway, I'll look it up, thx | 02:10 |
LSD|Ninja | you might be able to download the Alpha CD and ue that as an upgrade source | 02:13 |
elik | a small 624Mb to fetch, heh | 02:18 |
elik | lol | 03:12 |
elik | was not a good idea | 03:12 |
elik | :D | 03:12 |
LSD|Ninja | elik: ? | 03:21 |
elik | well, it messed with the graphic card a bit | 03:21 |
elik | and nothing would display anymore | 03:21 |
elik | kernel XX.26 would just show some pink squares | 03:22 |
elik | and xx.24 didn't work any better :P | 03:22 |
elik | so I think we'll forget that | 03:22 |
LSD|Ninja | yeah, usplash has a bunch of issues atm | 03:22 |
elik | I see | 03:22 |
elik | well, that's not as stable as I thought, but I guess now I know the true meaning of Alpha stage :P | 03:23 |
LSD|Ninja | we did warn you :P | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | heh | 03:25 |
elik | lol, you sure did | 03:26 |
elik | It was funny anyway | 03:26 |
LSD|Ninja | I think the purpose of these first few Alphas is to get the stuff merged in from Debian working happily and then they'll start fine tuning the new stuff | 03:27 |
elik | yeah, I assume it gets more and more stable as you close in to the release date | 03:29 |
elik | When did Hardy Heron release? | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | 8.04 == april 2008 | 03:29 |
LSD|Ninja | 8.10 is due for release in october so there's still a fair way to go yet | 03:30 |
elik | indeed | 03:31 |
elik | anyhow, thanks for your support | 03:34 |
elik | and keep up the good work on Intrepid Ibex | 03:35 |
sparky01 | does anyone know if Sound Juicer is going to be the default ripper in Ubuntu going forward? | 04:07 |
sparky01 | ??? | 04:08 |
sparky01 | well don't all answer at once! | 04:11 |
sparky01 | lol | 04:11 |
crd1b | fail | 04:26 |
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khermans | anyone have Flash sound working? | 04:40 |
khermans | or is it b0rked? | 04:40 |
khermans | i fixed the Xorg issues temporarily by -> $ sudo aptitude remove xserver-xorg gdm && sudo sed -i "s/intrepid/hardy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg gdm | 04:41 |
khermans | however, my flashplugin-nonfree version 10 gets no sound in firefox | 04:42 |
khermans | yay for closed sources! | 04:42 |
gluer | hi, does alpha 2 address nvidia support? | 05:39 |
SwedeMike | any idea if 8.10 will support centrino 2 well? (thinking of for instance the lenovo X200) | 06:39 |
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LSD|Ninja | SwedeMike: No reason to assume it won't | 08:18 |
SwedeMike | it's brand new, it was out after 2.6.26 was frozen, that's why I'm wondering | 08:18 |
SwedeMike | but hopefully intel has participated in kernel development and put support for the devices ahead of time | 08:19 |
LSD|Ninja | There doesn't look as though there's that much new to support | 08:19 |
SwedeMike | let's hope so | 08:26 |
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joaopinto | Hello, for testing purposes should I use the alpha 2 cd or a daily cd image ? | 10:34 |
LSD|Ninja | They make daily CD images? *headdesks* | 11:06 |
joaopinto | yes, they do | 11:14 |
knurra | rsync -vz rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily/current/intrepid-alternate-i386.iso . | 11:17 |
catweazle | LSD|Ninja: look here http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/ | 11:17 |
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sven-tek | Filing a bug, and nobody seems to care about it, is frustrating... (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/246952) | 12:55 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 246952 in linux-meta "Missing Force feedback support in kernel (CONFIG_HID_FF)" [Undecided,New] | 12:55 |
alex_mayorga | !java | 13:19 |
ubottu | To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository | 13:19 |
linkinxp | hello i need information in how to see the log of grub?? cause when its loading i see an error but i goes to fast..... | 13:57 |
Vegar | is it possible to install the 2.6.26 kernel from intrepid on hardy? | 14:28 |
avik42 | hiya, I just installed Kubuntu Intrepid Alpha 2 .. I can sudo just fine but when I try to use Hardware Driver Manager it says I need to give root password.. what is the root password? I didn't have a dialog to set it at install time and it's not the same as my sudo password .. thanks | 16:26 |
JontheEchidna | It should ask you for your sudo password... | 16:27 |
avik42 | that's what I thought .. but when I type in my sudo password .. it says wrong password .. but if I do sudo in terminal it takes it just fine | 16:28 |
JontheEchidna | hmm | 16:28 |
JontheEchidna | Might try asking _Tonio in #kubuntu-devel | 16:28 |
avik42 | kk thanks :) | 16:28 |
JontheEchidna | er, Tonio_ | 16:29 |
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LSD|Ninja | What was the point of the latest nvidia-96 update if it was a version bump to 96.43.07? | 17:33 |
LSD|Ninja | wasn't* | 17:35 |
G_009 | update-manager kept coming up with 'could not calculate upgrade'; tried apt-get and it went thru no problem | 17:41 |
mvo | G_009: for what upgrade situation? | 17:41 |
G_009 | 163 updates | 17:42 |
G_009 | i call it the 'partial upgrade' bug | 17:43 |
G_009 | i was specting to have to reboot after such extensive update.. i'll do it anyway | 17:46 |
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linux1 | can someone check something for me before i file a bug the sshmenu-gnome install's but i cant add it to the gnome panel | 18:55 |
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amikrop | Hello. I have a Game Boy Advance game (in an actuall Game Boy disquette). Is there any way I can play it in my pc? | 19:52 |
JontheEchidna | in Ubuntu? | 19:53 |
amikrop | yes | 19:54 |
JontheEchidna | So you have the cartridge? | 19:56 |
amikrop | What is the cartridge? | 19:56 |
* JontheEchidna doesn't know of any cartridge-ripping hardware that has linux drivers | 19:56 | |
JontheEchidna | The plastic thing that GBA games come on | 19:56 |
amikrop | JontheEchidna: yes | 19:57 |
amikrop | I do have it. | 19:57 |
JontheEchidna | [14:56:50] * JontheEchidna doesn't know of any cartridge-ripping hardware that has linux drivers | 19:57 |
amikrop | JontheEchidna: So, there is not any way I can play my game, in my computer? | 19:58 |
JontheEchidna | uh, sorta | 19:59 |
JontheEchidna | you'd have to do legally questionable things that I'm not sure I'm allowed to discuss here | 20:00 |
JontheEchidna | anyway, general ubuntu support is in #ubuntu, this is for the development version of ubuntu | 20:01 |
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Jordan_U | Is LRM likely to be working by alpha 3 ? | 22:39 |
gluer | Hi, Q: I've got a Nvidia Geforce Go 7600 in laptop, ive installed all the latest updates and im still stuck in low res, how can i get 1680*1050 in intrepid? | 22:44 |
Jordan_U | gluer, AFIK the proprietary drivers are broken currently | 22:50 |
Jordan_U | gluer, You can try using the 'nv' driver if you are not already | 22:51 |
gluer | Jordan: nv driver? | 22:51 |
gluer | off the website? | 22:51 |
markit | hi, my laptop boots in textual mode with kernel 2.6.24, but can't see anything with 2.6.26 (nvidia), any suggested setup or boot time parameter? | 22:52 |
AtomicSpark | they should keep alpha as intended. in house/dev only beta testing. :P | 22:57 |
Jordan_U | AtomicSpark, It's the open source way, release early, release often and warn about the possible killing of your dog | 22:59 |
AtomicSpark | Jordan_U: people always miss or ignore the warning though :\ | 23:01 |
gluer | holy crap!! fixed my nvidia! finally | 23:08 |
gluer | lol | 23:08 |
markit | gluer: I've problems with nvidia as well | 23:09 |
gluer | about ffkn time | 23:09 |
markit | with my laptop | 23:09 |
markit | oh, no, does not show anything here :( | 23:09 |
gluer | i followed this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856227 | 23:09 |
markit | with kernel 2.6.24 I've no graphic (error setting MTRR), while with kernel 26.26 I've no output at all | 23:10 |
gluer | i just modified the xorg.conf file | 23:10 |
markit | I've not checked closed source (evil) driver | 23:10 |
gluer | changed the section "device" | 23:10 |
gluer | then changed the section "screen" to my correct res | 23:13 |
gluer | for some reason my section "device" was identified as "device1" which i changed to "device0" | 23:13 |
gluer | nv driver version 173.14.09 | 23:15 |
markit | gluer: oh, could you pastebin me your xorg.conf please? the relevant (whole) sections? | 23:16 |
markit | gluer: even if is strange that with kernel 2.6.24 I've graphic image (gray) with X cursor, then returns to textual | 23:17 |
markit | while with more recent kernels, I've no image at all (nor textual) | 23:17 |
gluer | markit: sure..ive never used pastebin though, whats the deal? | 23:18 |
markit | gluer: and where do you find if device0 or device1 or deviceX is correct? | 23:18 |
markit | gluer: www.pastebin.ca, and copy/paste your xorg.conf, then submit and write here the link it returns | 23:19 |
markit | or we could go in private and you can paste me some small pieces of config | 23:19 |
gluer | markit: http://www.pastebin.ca/1076000 | 23:21 |
markit | gluer: thanks a lot, I will try :) | 23:22 |
gluer | markit: its messy but i hope it helps | 23:22 |
gluer | now got to get my sound working lol! | 23:23 |
crimsun_ | what's wrong w/ your sound? | 23:24 |
markit | gluer: unfortunatly, I've still "error setting MTRR" | 23:26 |
gluer | markit: bugger | 23:27 |
markit | gluer: what do you mean? | 23:27 |
gluer | markit: just aussie slang ;-) lol | 23:27 |
gluer | q: when i boot into gui i hear the drum sound, then when i login the sound doesnt work, any ideas how to fix this? my laptop is a asus fj3 or something | 23:34 |
markit | ok, let's format and go back to a more stable 8.04 :) thanks a lot anyway, bye | 23:43 |
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