/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/18/#ubuntu-motu.txt

kostmowondering if any reviewers have time to take a final look at my pyrocket package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=285700:00
NCommanderkostmo, sure, I'll look00:00
kostmothx00:01
NCommanderkostmo, loose the debian-binary file unless its needed for some reason00:02
kostmook i'll delete it00:03
NCommanderNice job on putting the manual page in the right section :-)00:03
NCommanderlooks good to me00:04
NCommanderWHere do mime files go?00:07
k0psomeone can make a revision in my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit00:40
* NCommander fires a massive cannonball size hack00:42
NCommander^Into Code::Blocks00:42
kgoetzHello motus! can pbuilder be used to build source packages (as though i ran 'debuild -S'). I just managed to get pbuilder installed and running, and i'd rather not create a hardy chroot now as well (sorry to those who saw this in -bugs too)01:10
wgrantkgoetz: Why would you do that?01:15
kgoetzwgrant: why would i do what? use pbuilder or a chroot?01:20
* NCommander finally got codeblocks nearly lintian clean01:22
directhextake a look in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/01:22
directhexor specify --buildresult01:22
kgoetzi might have to keep reading on pbuilder *grin*. seems i'm not as aware of whats its doing as i thought01:25
copprois it just me, or is Ctrl-Alt-R not normally supposed to restart X?01:26
copproAnyway, NCommander, I need more help01:27
NCommanderhelp on what?01:27
copprowith my watch file01:27
copproor my uscan invocation01:27
copprooh, I see01:28
copprohang on01:28
* NCommander is down to two lintian issues01:28
directhexif the openssl debacle taught us anything, it's that you should never try to make your packages lintian-clean01:30
NCommanderdirecthex, is that how that happened?01:30
copprook fixed that01:31
directhexthat's half the story, yeah01:31
NCommanderany place where I can read the full story?01:31
copprook, so now I get one Lintian error, which is expected01:32
NCommander(I don't clear a lintian error if its invalid; I always add overrides)01:32
copproI do need to do something about it, I'm just not sure what01:32
copproit's about the lack of a SONAME01:33
NCommanderwhat's the specific lintian error?01:33
NCommanderOh01:33
NCommanderYou should fix that01:33
copproand I know I should add a SONAME, I just can't decide what it should be based around01:33
copprobecause upstream has no SONAME, and AFAICT, the intention is to keep the current release (2.4) binary-compatible01:33
copproso I think I can just add a SONAME and forget01:34
directhexNCommander, short version: patch is made for odd-looking code to fix lintian moan, patch is applied to originally planned location, plus an identical looking place further on in the source (don't you love variable names like "e"?). one of these places fixed lintian trouble, t'other caused massive reduction in entropy01:34
NCommander*grumble*01:34
NCommanderI'd never change code over a lintian issue01:34
NCommanderWIth the exception that I had to change a hardcoded path to move plugins from /share to /lib01:35
copprois -soname ignored when not making a shared object?01:36
wgrantkgoetz: Why would you not build the source package on your normal machine?01:38
copprowhat's the format of a soname again? (being stupid)01:39
copproNCommander, I've got a few dpkg-source warnings I'd like to ask about?01:44
NCommanderShoot01:44
copproVersion number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address01:44
copproVersion number suggests Ubuntu changes, but there is no XSBC-Original-Maintainer field01:45
NCommandercoppro, run update-maintainer in the debian folders01:48
NCommander(and then fix the changelog to reset your name)01:48
NCommandersince its a new package, you'll have to pass --section=universe01:48
copproI01:49
coppro'm also getting Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line429.01:49
NCommanderI've seen it before, but I forgot >.<;01:49
copprook thanks for the help01:52
copprook, now I've got warning, `debian/libmk4-dev/DEBIAN/control' contains user-defined field `Original-Maintainer'01:52
NCommandercoppro, that's normal01:57
NCommanderIt's because Ubuntu uses a nonstandard field that Debian doesn't recongize01:57
copprook01:57
NCommanderI've considered submitting a patch to make that warning disappear, but the headache of getting a patch into dpkg and friends sounds like too much pain01:57
kostmoNCommander: I re-uploaded the package without the debian-binary file: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=289102:00
kostmo... is there a second reviewer around, by chance?02:00
NCommanderkostmo, I'm not an MOTU, I can't sign your package02:01
copprohow do I get this stupid soname to work?02:01
kostmoah IC02:01
copprothe only thing I can think of is modifying the upstream Makefile.in02:01
kostmodo you have any suggestions for the best communications channel to find a couple MOTUs for this?02:02
copproy02:03
copprodisregard that02:03
bddebianHeya gang02:09
copprothis is fail :(02:20
copproNCommander, I got the SONAME in, but now I can't link /usr/lib/libmk4.so to /usr/lib/libmk4.so.4!02:20
copprook done02:29
copproyy02:29
coppro*yay02:29
NCommanderScottK, ping02:33
emgentNCommander: scottk is out02:34
NCommanderdarn02:35
NCommanderemgent, care to review a package that's about to hit REVU?02:35
emgentNCommander: not now, i'm working. anyway feel free to link here :)02:36
NCommanderYou do work?02:36
emgentNCommander: phpmyadmin security02:38
copprohow do I add a lintian override?02:38
NCommanderhttp://lintian.debian.org/manual/ch2.html - coppro02:39
copproso I make a file then install it to usr/share/lintian/overrides, correct?02:40
tbielawaAlo!02:41
kgoetzwgrant: because i'm A. not running ubuntu, and B. dont want to fill my system with build-deps02:47
copproOk, question: what is the standard place to put your lintian-overrides file? Like, should it be <package>.lintian-overrides? And what commands should be in rules?02:58
wgrantkgoetz: If you're running something Debianish, you're fine. You generally don't generally need to install the build-deps.03:07
NCommanderand away codeblocks goes to revu03:12
copproyay!03:13
copprogo NCommander03:13
coppronow can you answer my questions?03:13
NCommanderwhat was your question?03:16
copprofor lintian-overrides, I understand where they go in the package03:16
copprobut in my source folder, how should I put them, and is there a special dh_installblah command?03:16
NCommanderdh_lintian03:16
NCommanderBut its only available in Intrepid/Sid, so if you want to backport, don't use it, and manually at it to your package03:17
copprowhat package has all the development tools?03:25
NCommanderhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=codeblocks03:25
NCommandersomeone care to review?03:25
cody-somervilleNCommander, upstream ships a debian/ directory? :(03:26
NCommandercody-somerville, yeah03:27
NCommanderBut its pretty broken03:27
NCommanderI had to redo at least 70% of the files in it03:27
cody-somervilleNCommander, you should see about getting upstream to remove it03:27
NCommanderI will03:27
NCommanderThey release debs because no one had packaged Code::Blocks for Debian or Ubuntu03:28
NCommanderBut whoever did it wasn't a DD03:28
tbielawaNCommander: that's the same situation I'm in with Bibus03:28
tbielawaNCommander: it's a mess upstream, but it's not in the repos yet, so hopefully once this mess is sorted tonight It will be soon :-)03:28
NCommandertbielawa, yeah, once its in the archive, I'll use it as justification to removing it03:28
NCommander^upstream03:28
copproumm... code::blocks provides .debs03:30
tbielawa@all, regarding lintian overrides. my upstream version ends with a dash then a final number, ex: 2.4.3-203:30
tbielawathat throws up the natice package with dashed version lintian warning. Is this justification enough to override the warning with an override?03:31
NCommanderI said it does03:31
NCommandercoppro, but their debs don't have proper dependencies in them, and violate the LSB03:32
copproyeah, but that's why they have a debian/03:32
cody-somervillecoppro, I think we're well aware of that.03:32
NCommanderNo, I know03:32
copprook03:33
NCommanderI'm planning to submit this package to Debian after it gets in here03:34
NCommanderAnd ask them to remove the Debian folder03:34
cody-somervilleNCommander, Remove the URL from the package descriptions and put it in the Homepage field of the source package.03:34
NCommanderAck, I knew I forgot to do something; and I also forgot to add the watch file >.<;03:35
NCommanderSorry, its late03:35
copprowhat package is debuild in?03:35
cody-somervilleNCommander, Also, codeblocks-contrib should be a suggest and not a recommend.03:38
NCommandercody-somerville, *grumbles*, I can't find a watch file line that will work with sourceforge since they changed the layout03:39
NCommanderany suggestions?03:39
tbielawaNCommander: I'll post one online that works fo rme03:39
NCommanderthank you tbielawa03:40
* NCommander hasn't done any real packaging in so long its good to get the rust off03:40
cody-somervillehttp://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.*)\.tar\.gz ?03:40
NCommanderDidn't work, but I'll retry it03:40
tbielawahttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/bibus-0807090710/bibus-1.4.3-2/debian/watch works for me03:40
NCommandertbielawa, it mostly works, but I'm getting binary packages like03:41
NCommanderhttp://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/codeblocks/codeblocks-8.02-0suse103-x86_64.tar.gz03:41
NCommanderIt seems suse > ubuntu to uscan ;-)03:41
tbielawahaha03:41
NCommanderer03:41
copprohtml > 0, as I discovered last night03:42
cody-somervillehttp://downloads.sourceforge.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.*)-src\.tar\.bz203:42
tbielawagood luck, i had enough problems getting that one to work03:42
copprohow should the suggest/recommend relations in a library package be set up03:42
copprojust the dev recommends doc, or anything else?03:42
NCommanderNot to be lazy, but how can I get uscan to download the package file for get-orig-source?03:43
NCommanderactually03:44
NCommanderDebian policy says I should download the same source file, so just a simple wget03:44
NCommandercody-somerville, thanks for reviewing this ;-)03:47
NCommandercody-somerville, upload in progress03:48
copprowow, stupid question day!03:51
copprowait, nvm03:51
* cody-somerville raises an eyebrow.03:51
copproI was about to ask a stupid question03:51
copprobut then I thought of an answer03:51
kgoetzwgrant: then you and Hobbsee just gave me different answers on th same subject03:51
copprowait, is there any way for dh_install to change the name of the file it installs?03:52
NCommandercody-somerville, upload complete03:52
NCommanderTHank you for taking the time to review this03:52
copproor should I just use /usr/bin/install03:53
* NCommander is always amazed at how simply, yet effective the deb package format is03:53
copprosomeone help me... I can make my next upload as soon as I resolve these stupid overrides03:54
cody-somervilleNCommander, The md5 of your source tarball mismatches with upstream's03:54
cody-somervillecoppro, yes03:54
copproI have debian/libmk4.lintian-overrides03:54
copproI want it to be install to /usr/share/lintian/overrides/libmk403:54
copprowhat should I put in rules?03:54
NCommandercody-somerville, mostly because I repacked it into a tar.gz as per the debian policy guide03:55
cody-somervilleNCommander, except that isn't debian policy03:55
* NCommander rereads the policy guide03:55
NCommanderIt used to be03:55
cody-somervilleNCommander, it is possible to make it a .tar.gz w/o repacking it.03:55
copprohelp?03:56
NCommanderget-orig-source:03:56
NCommander        cd .. && wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/codeblocks/codeblocks-8.02-src.tar.bz203:56
NCommander        bunzip2 codeblocks-8.02.tar.bz203:56
NCommander        gzip codeblocks-8.02.tar03:56
NCommanderMaybe something accidently ended up in the orig03:56
cody-somervilleNCommander, gzip -903:56
tbielawacoppro: if you just want to install a file you can use the standard pkg_name.rules file in your debian/ directory03:56
NCommanderLet me just remake it03:56
copprowhat command in rules should I use though?03:57
NCommandercody-somerville, nice catch03:57
copprodh_install doesn't seem to support renaming, and /usr/bin/install won't create the directory structure03:57
tbielawainstall -d will create the entire path03:57
coppro(and is bad anyway)03:57
cody-somervillecoppro, there is dh_installdirs03:57
copprohmm... oh wait03:58
copproi03:58
tbielawabut dh_install -i -p<pkg_name> should be in your install: build target03:58
copproam an03:58
copproidiot03:58
cody-somervillecoppro, No, you're not. You're simply rushing. Slow down.03:58
copprono im an idiot03:58
tbielawaUse this as an opportunity to redeem yourself then, coppro :)03:59
NCommandercody-somerville, I'm uploading now. Sorry for these basic screwups >.<;03:59
NCommanderbah04:00
NCommanderSuch a slow upload cap here04:00
tbielawacody-somerville: upstream tarball is messy. bad folder name for the source, hidden directories like cvs and ide folders, and it's got a debian/. Does this reconstitute a reroll of the .orig.tar.gz ?04:01
copprotbielawa: I think -D is the one you meant04:02
tbielawacoppro: I think you're right :)04:02
cody-somervilletbielawa, did you export it from svn?04:02
copprothanks for pointing out that the option existed though04:03
tbielawacody-somerville: nope, it's from their sourceforge site.04:03
cody-somervilletbielawa, then no04:03
wgrantkgoetz: It will need some, but not all, build-dependencies for a source buil.04:04
copproyay, time to upload again to REVU (still no docs package though)04:05
tbielawacody-somerville: thanks for clarification. I just re-read the "Complete Ubuntu Packaging Guide" section on non-native packages again and it's like I never saw it before04:05
tbielawacoppro: :)04:05
NCommandercody-somerville, updated package with properly done orig.tar.gz ;-)04:07
copprowhat's the command to update the version and add a blank changelog entry?04:07
tbielawadch04:07
tbielawa-i04:07
* cody-somerville never uses that. Causes too many mistakes :P04:08
copproand how do I test with pbuilder again?04:08
tbielawacoppro: it's involved. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#head-2979f8a826fc15379a92139c25bb513633d2023c04:09
copproty04:09
tbielawait provides a link to the full guide04:09
tbielawanp04:09
NCommandercody-somerville, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=codeblocks04:09
* NCommander hides in fear from the wrath of Cody04:11
copprook, pbuilder had success! time to actually upload!04:12
NCommandercoppro, first package?04:13
copproyes04:13
NCommanderNice, welcome to the club;-)04:13
copprofirst actual package that is04:13
copproI made one before but someone beat me to it on Debian, so I finished just for practice04:14
NCommanderThat's what ITPs are for ;-)04:14
NCommanderI'm just happy to finally get codeblocks into the archive04:14
copproyeah, but whoever it was didn't close the ubuntu needs-packaging bug04:14
copproand I didn't realize that Debian had a package when I made it04:15
ScottKsebner: New courier merge with your name on it.04:18
NCommanderwow, ScottK04:18
NCommanderhe speaks04:18
ScottKWhen I'm here I can almost never manage not to.04:18
copprohttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk404:19
copproyay!04:19
NCommanderScottK, care to review codeblocks?04:20
NCommanderScottK, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=codeblocks04:20
ScottKNCommander: Sorry, I've got another project I need to concentrate on with the little time I have tonight.04:20
NCommanderIt's ok04:20
* nxvl checks04:20
jdongwow, this is really counterintuitive04:22
LucidFoxBlimey, sonicmctails@gmail.com overwrote my package04:22
jdongan RK4 simulation of an inverted pendulum runs SIGNIFICANTLY faster on C#/Mono than Java04:23
jdongeven when just directly using ikvm to on-the-fly translate the bytecode from Java to Mono04:23
NCommanderLucidFox, whoops >.>;04:23
NCommanderLucidFox, I should have checked revu before I started packaging codeblocks04:24
copprolol04:24
copproowned04:24
NCommanderhrm or me?04:24
* coppro ducks04:24
copproboth04:24
copprohim for getting his package blasted, you for putting all that hard work in04:25
jdongjava IPModel > /dev/null  35.31s user 0.07s system 100% cpu 35.301 total04:25
jdongikvm IPModel > /dev/null  24.76s user 0.06s system 99% cpu 24.824 total04:25
NCommanderHe got his package blasted?04:25
nxvlNCommander: are you using XSBC-Original-Maintainer: for some reason?04:25
jdongthis is news to me... since when was CLR faster than Java HotSpot?04:25
LucidFoxI didn't, it's still available04:25
copprooh04:25
copprowell, it's still funny04:25
LucidFoxNCommander> Please remove .debhelper.log files, at least04:25
NCommandernxvl, upstream shipped a debian folder, I left the original mantainer04:25
ScottKjdong: Did you get my ping about Feisty/Gutsy backports ...04:25
LucidFoxNCommander> You should repackage the orig.tar.gz and remove it04:26
kostmoAre any MOTU's around?04:26
copproScott, but he's busy apparently04:26
NCommanderargh, damn it. I thought dpkg-buildpackage -S cleaned before building04:26
cody-somervilleI'm a MOTU04:26
NCommanderLucidFox, I uploaded it again.04:26
copprocody, can you REVU my package please?04:26
jdongScottK: no, this shell is terrible at keeping history04:27
NCommanderLucidFox, so I don't understand what you mean?04:27
kostmohowdy! any chance you'd be inclined to revu mine also? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=289104:27
* LucidFox headdesks04:27
ScottKjdong: Dapper/Hardy are caught up.  There are a couple in Feisty/Gutsy you need to deal with.04:27
* NCommander steals LucidFox's headdesk04:28
LucidFoxBut then, given how I submitted four packages for intrepid to REVU so far and they all have been ignored, maybe I was doing something wrong04:28
copprocody-somerville: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk404:28
jdongScottK: gotcha. I've got tomorrow off work; I'll jot that on my TODO list. Right under "get wisdom teeth pulled"04:28
jdong:(04:28
NCommanderOw04:29
jdongyeah, not looking forward to it.04:29
NCommanderLucidFox, I'm a porter. I do new packages *really* rarely04:29
ScottKjdong: I've done my massively crack addled backport for this month.  Your turn.04:29
NCommanderBut Code::Blocks is something I use quite a bit, and I wanted to prove I can package04:29
NCommanderObviously I'm proving I can't ;-)04:29
cody-somervillecoppro, you should use use a patch system instead of editing files outside of debian/ directly.04:30
copprohuh?04:31
copprosay what?04:31
NCommandercody-somerville, uploading again with all the afforemethoned suggestions04:31
cody-somervillecoppro, You modified unix/Makefile.in04:32
kgoetzwgrant: 'some' is still quite a lot if i want to work with varying packages04:32
cody-somervillecoppro, you didn't document it in your changelog either04:32
kostmoNCommander: why is it recommended to remove debian-binary?  Actually I can't remember why I put it in, but I'm pretty sure it was on a list of of files that should be in debian/04:32
copprook, what do you mean by a patch system though?04:32
cody-somervillecoppro, you also modified unix/configure and didn't mention it in your changelog04:32
cody-somervillecoppro, ie. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems04:32
kostmoNCommander: list I read was probably outdated04:33
NCommanderkostmo, its generated automatic for whatever version of dpkg file format is now used04:33
copprook ty04:33
kostmook04:33
cody-somervillecoppro, You also don't need to put [Your Name] above ever item in your changelog.04:34
copprothat was left over from a script04:34
cody-somervillecoppro, I don't care. :)04:34
copprolol04:34
cody-somervilleNCommander, My computer is still working on compiling the first version you uploaded :P04:35
NCommandercody-somerville, ahahaha. need to upgrade a little bit?04:35
cody-somervilleMaybe04:36
NCommander(then again, distcc, and -j4 are my friends)04:36
wgrantNCommander: Aren't you a porter to $SLOW_ARCH?04:37
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NCommanderlike I said, distcc and -j404:37
cody-somervilleemgent, try getting some of your fixes upstream :P04:38
kgoetzdoes " pdebuild --pbuildersatisfydepends" need to be called with any other options? i dont see any in the man page, but it doesnt install build-deps for the package i want to build. http://paste.ubuntu.com/28184/04:41
NCommanderkgoetz, does your package depend on things from universe?04:43
kostmocody-somerville, could you revu my package, please? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=289104:44
emgentcody-somerville: sure, i use first see if in BTS bug is open, and than talk with maintainer on OFCT04:46
emgentanyway thanks for suggest :)04:46
kgoetzNCommander: i'm not sure, but they look like main packages (python-all-dev (>= 2.3.5-10) cdbs (>= 0.4.41) zlib1g-dev)04:48
NCommanderHrm04:49
NCommanderWell, try adding the universe repo to your .pbuilderrc04:49
kgoetzok, i'll try that and let you know how it goes. thanks.04:49
* NCommander waits for cody-somerville's computer04:52
NCommandercody-somerville, ping?04:55
cody-somervilleNCommander, yeees? :]04:56
NCommandercody-somerville, how goes the compiling?04:57
NCommanderMaybe it would be faster to upload to your PPA and let launchpad do it04:57
cody-somervilleNCommander, it is almost done.04:57
* NCommander waits patiently04:57
ScottKNCommander lies.04:57
ScottKHe's not patient at all.04:57
* NCommander clubs ScottK 04:58
NCommanderWell, the security guys were scared with a 32 minute turn around to backport a patch to dapper, feisty, and confirming gutsy wasn't effected ....04:58
NCommanderso I dunn0o04:59
NCommanderMaybe I'm just used to fixing packages fast to make up for slow build times04:59
NCommander(or I need some outlet for my excess energy; its been completely dead at work; damn fire company going to go out of business at this rate)04:59
NCommanderScottK, so yeah, I now do security patches in addition to FTBFS .... I think I've got no life05:00
cody-somervilleNCommander, you should help contribute to Xubuntu.05:01
NCommanderWhat does Xubuntu need?05:01
NCommander(I run it, so I'd be glad to help, but I've never seen a todo)05:01
NCommanderand I'll brb, dinner05:01
cody-somervilleNCommander, linda is dirty.05:04
kgoetzNCommander: i've rebuilt and i think it contains universe, but i still dont get the build-depends satisfied05:05
cody-somervillekgoetz, pastebin your build log05:06
kgoetzcody-somerville: package build? half a mo05:08
kgoetzcody-somerville: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28187/05:08
cody-somervillekgoetz, that doesn't look like it is building in a chroot05:10
cody-somervilleNCommander, you didn't add a Homepage field05:12
kgoetzcody-somerville: so its not attempting to use pbuilder? :/05:13
cody-somervilleI've never used pdebuild myself05:13
kgoetzmm ok.05:14
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cody-somervilleOkay, I'll do one more review before I go to bed/take a nap.05:15
NCommanderDamn it, woohoos05:17
NCommander*sigh*05:17
NCommanderI'm really out of it05:17
NCommanderI'm going to call it quits after I upload this last one, and stop torurting cody-somerville05:17
NCommandercody-somerville, does it need Homepage: as in <http://codeblocks.org> or loose the brackets05:20
cody-somervilleLose the brackets05:20
NCommanderOk05:21
NCommanderUploading05:21
NCommanderI'm not going to ask you to stick around and wait for it to build again05:21
NCommanderI can find another sponsor, since your probably ready to stab my eyes out05:21
cody-somervilleNCommander, nah. I don't need to stab anyone's eyes out yet :)05:23
NCommanderwell, if you do, go for my blind one05:24
NCommanderI don't need it05:24
NCommander;-)05:24
NCommanderor ...05:24
NCommander.-)05:24
NCommandercody-somerville, its there05:30
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emgent\sh: moin05:41
NCommanderand I'm back05:44
NCommanderSOrry, duty called for the "Automatic Alarm in Building 47 at RIT"05:44
NCommandercody-somerville, I assume your gone?05:44
tbielawaI just noticed that the rules file my upstream included actually called another Makefile they havein their Setup/ directory05:48
NCommanderIt sounds like your having "fun"05:50
NCommanderI can't decide if that's better or worse then something say like checkinstall05:50
tbielawathis whole package is a messssss.05:50
tbielawaHow long have you been working with packaging?05:50
NCommanderSometimes its easier to -r debian, and start over05:52
NCommanderUnless your just referring to the packages build system05:52
NCommanderDebian/Ubuntu, or collectively?05:52
tbielawaCollectively05:52
NCommanderHard to say for sure, but long enough to seen some real messes05:52
tbielawa:)05:53
NCommanderThe worse are the package build systems themselves05:53
NCommanderGo try building RPM, then tell me this package is bad05:53
tbielawaThis was the first real piece of software I've tried to package. It was debianized so I thought it would be easier05:53
NCommandersmall hint05:53
NCommanderIf its debianized, but not in the archive05:53
NCommanderIt usually means a lot of pain and hurt05:54
tbielawaI can contest to that05:54
NCommandercode::blocks was ok05:54
tbielawaTHe hardest part I have with this is deciding how to go about it. I've wanted to just rm the debian/ and some other stuff. But then I have questions like "how much not in debian/ am I supposed to edit without patching and etc?"05:54
NCommanderBut I still had to redo at least half of their rules file, and apply a nasty hack to the source to get it to meet standards05:55
tbielawaeck05:55
tbielawaicky05:55
NCommandertbielawa, you can modify anything in the package you like, but you need to add a patching system05:55
* tbielawa uses dpatch05:55
NCommandersame05:55
NCommanderI've used quilt before05:55
NCommanderBut I find I end up fighting the tool more then anything else05:55
tbielawaheh05:55
NCommanderMy sole pet peeve with dpatch is every once in awhile, it looses its mind, and unpatch fails05:56
NCommanderThen again, so does quilt05:56
tbielawa0_005:56
NCommanderIt usually means moving the debian folder to safety, and rm -ring the source folder05:56
tbielawathis author made it so that it will build as a deb, but it will able make from this make file in their setup directory. THEN I find out just now when I'm about to publish my (hopefully) final REVU upload, that rules calles Setup/Makefile05:57
tbielawawhich, I mean is ok. but there's so many places where using debhelper scripts would clean this up sooooooo much. Where is my technical stopping point when cleaning this up?05:58
* ScottK decides he's had all of Launchpad's new look he can stand for one night and goes to bed.06:31
tbielawabye06:33
emgentnight ScottK :)06:34
nxvlyeah, it's hard to work on the new UI06:34
nxvleasy on a late state, but hard at the begining06:35
nxvlkees: around?06:35
warp10Hi all!06:43
nxvlhi!06:44
warp10Hi nxvl!06:44
tbielawahello06:45
=== superm1_ is now known as superm1
=== mcasadevall__ is now known as NCommander
NCommanderAny sponsors int he room?07:21
superm1NCommander, only if it's quick :)07:24
superm1i'm gonna hit the sack in ~10-15 min07:24
NCommandersuperm1, its a package on revu, its lintian clean, builds fine, etc.07:25
superm1NCommander, what's the package?07:25
NCommandercodeblocks07:25
superm1oh still doesn't have the first +107:25
NCommandercody-somerville was looking it over07:26
superm1okay well i'll take a quick look and maybe at least be able to give it the first one07:26
superm1cody-somerville, any conclusions?07:26
NCommanderI made the changes he wanted, but my net cutout before I could respond07:26
NCommanderANd I think he went to sleep already07:26
superm1ah07:26
superm1okay well my feedback will still be there tomorrow, so he can catch up to it tomorrow then07:26
NCommanderThank you superm107:27
NCommander(just as a note, upstream does have a debian folder, but its pretty badly broken; I redid quite a large chunk of the rules and control files)07:27
cody-somervillesuperm1, NCommander: You fixed the linda warnings?07:28
* NCommander reruns linda07:28
NCommandercody-somerville, my net dropped out, so I never saw what you said in response07:29
cody-somervilleNCommander, I didn't say anything.07:29
NCommanderoh07:29
NCommanderoh awesome07:30
NCommanderMy intrepid chroot seems to have hosed itself07:30
* NCommander grumbles07:31
NCommanderWHat package is linda in again, I need to install it on hardy07:31
* NCommander also thought linda wasn't developed anymore07:33
superm1NCommander, left you a few comments07:33
superm1small things07:33
wgrantNCommander: linda is dead - don't use it.07:33
NCommanderOh good, I knew I wasn't loosing my mind07:34
NCommanderON the forth note, I don't like changing the original tarball if it can be avoided07:34
NCommandersuperm1, on point three, I am submitting this package to Debian, so I think leaving the dbg packages is a better idea, but I've never seen these -dbgsym packages; they aren't created here07:36
NCommanderAs for one and two, correcting now07:36
NCommanderls07:36
NCommanderer07:36
wgrantNCommander: Hopefully Debian will come to their senses and use our dbgsym extraction stuff at some point.07:36
cody-somervillewgrant, when did linda die?07:36
wgrantcody-somerville: With 3.8.007:36
NCommanderyay! *shot*07:36
cody-somervillewgrant, link?07:36
NCommandercody-somerville, it's no longer in the Debian archive.07:37
wgrantDebian bug #46903907:37
ubottuDebian bug 469039 in linda "linda: Should this package be removed?" [Serious,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/46903907:37
NCommanderI'm simply going comment out the dh_strip line then and leave it in the rules file07:37
NCommanderWhich brings me to four07:38
wgrantNCommander: Er, don't comment that out...07:38
wgrantWhy would you do that?07:38
NCommanderwgrant, that's how the dbg package is made07:38
NCommanderI run dh_strip, and the debug package comes out in codeblocks-dbg07:38
wgrantIt doesn't do that automatically, does it?07:38
NCommanderI didn't think so, but superm1 just said it did so ...07:39
superm1NCommander, no i was saying you dont need a package just for debug symbols07:39
wgrantpkg-create-dbgsym diverts dh_strip, so you need to call it.07:39
superm1i didn't say to remove the stripping itself....07:39
wgrantAnd you should always be stripping things.07:39
NCommanderI don't have a pkg-create-dbgsym script07:39
wgrantYou don't need it, but you could install it.07:40
NCommanderI am aware of things needed to be stripped if for nothing else to cut the fat out07:40
NCommanderI just don't see the point of doing it in a non-Debian way. I do plan to submit this to debian, so I still have to have dh_strip for that to create a debug package, and then the codeblocks package from Debian will be synced over the ubuntu one07:41
NCommanderI just feel like I'm really missing something here07:42
cody-somervilleNCommander, whats the issue again?07:42
wgrantNot all packages in Debian create -dbg packages...07:43
NCommanderCodeblocks has a dedicated SDK for developing plugings07:43
NCommanderI know I want a -dbg package if I was trying to debug a plugin07:43
wgrantAnd you have to have dh_strip regardless of whether or not you're going to create -dbg packages. One never leaves binaries in a normal package unstripped.07:43
wgrantAha.07:43
NCommanderI should have said: remove the create debug part07:44
NCommanderI'm quite aware not to ship unstripped binaries ;-)07:44
NCommanderso having a seperate -dbg package is fine?07:45
wgrantIt's useless in Ubuntu, but it's no violation of policy.07:46
NCommanderThe last thing then is the upstream debian folder.07:46
superm1generally when i run into it, i make my get-orig-source rule repack it with moving it to debian_upstream07:46
superm1or similar07:46
NCommanderIt's hard for me to justify modifying the upstream tarball unless I'm actually removing non-free components.07:46
superm1and the reason for that is if upstream modifies anything in that debian directory, your diff.gz will break07:46
superm1going release to release07:46
NCommanderBecause if I mod the package, beyond just recompressing it, MD5 hashs will not break if you simply bzip2 the package again07:47
NCommandersuperm1, when I handle a new release, I download the source, and then move the debian folder; I've never applied the diff the newer package version, but that's just me ...07:47
NCommanderI dunno07:47
superm1well you are already repacking if i looked at your debian/rules right anyhow07:48
superm1because they bring in bz207:48
NCommanderjust gunzip and bzip207:48
* NCommander sighs07:48
superm1so it's just another line or two07:48
cody-somervillesuperm1, yes but the md5 doesn't change07:48
NCommanderI'm not trying to be a pain about this07:48
NCommanderBut I've always critized unnecessary original tarball changes07:48
cody-somervilleNCommander, I think you need to take a deep breath or two :) No need to get worked up.07:48
* NCommander inhales cody-somerville 07:49
* NCommander dies07:49
superm1cody-somerville, but you think that the debian/ should stay as is?07:49
superm1i think its a very good reason to repack07:49
NCommanderThe original source tarball should be unmodified so if someone wants to build the package sans debian modifications, including rebuilding the codeblocks upstream, then its available right there.07:50
NCommanderI've used apt-get source more then once to just get the original tarball07:50
* wgrant agrees with superm1 on this.07:50
NCommanderI'll do whatever the majority here rules07:51
superm1NCommander, especially if you intend to bring this up to debian07:51
NCommanderI'm not trying to be arguementive, but I find repacking is a last resort07:51
superm1i believe your sponsor there would give you a hard time bout this too07:51
cody-somervilleI disagree with wgrant and superm1.07:51
cody-somervilleDebian policy specifically allows for upstream developers to package a debian directory07:51
NCommandersuperm1, finding a sponsor on debian itself is a hard time.07:51
superm1cody-somerville, but that's assuming their debian directory will be valid and useful07:52
NCommandersuperm1, gforge has an upstream debian folder and its modified in releases07:52
NCommanderI can think of a few others that are the same way07:52
cody-somervillesuperm1, You would modify it like you might a native debian package.07:52
cody-somervillesuperm1, if upstream is doing a *really* horrible job, the precedent has been to ask upstream to stop if they'd like their package to enter the archive.07:53
superm1well at least from the way i've learned, don't go down that route07:53
NCommanderLooking at gforge, they leave the debian folder in the upstream tarball07:53
superm1so NCommander if you repack, you can get a +1 from me, if you don't you can get one from cody-somerville :)07:54
cody-somervilleNCommander, but you risk having the archive admin reject it if you go with superm1 :P07:54
NCommanderIs it worth invalidating md5/sha1/etc to simply remove a debian folder?07:54
cody-somervilleno.07:54
NCommander(that was aimed at superm1)07:54
superm1matter of opinion is all :)07:55
NCommanderI'd know if I was a DD, you'd just to justify the repack just like justifying every lintian override07:56
NCommanderor MOTU07:56
NCommanderBut I do accept your opinion, even if I disagree07:56
NCommanderANd I do value your comments on codeblocks07:56
superm1well in any case.  bed time.  good luck sorting things out :)07:58
NCommanderthank you superm107:58
NCommandercody-somerville, I uploaded the next revision to revu08:00
NCommandercody-somerville, and thank you for your time and patience working with me on this issue08:02
cody-somervilleNo problem.08:02
NCommanderrevu is being slow, or I just missed the last dinstall08:03
cody-somervilleNCommander, Your dependency on codeblocks for codeblocks-dbg needs to be versioned.08:07
NCommanderIs there a substution variable that will give a packages current version?08:07
cody-somerville(= ${binary:Version})08:07
cody-somervilleSo the codeblocks-dbg dependency on "codeblocks" should become "codeblocks (= ${binary:Version})"08:08
NCommanderUploading yet again08:09
* NCommander wonders if he's going to break revu08:10
NCommandercody-somerville, ignore the 9:10 upload, it doesn't have the dbg fix, it does have all the other ones08:12
NCommanderTHe proper one will be 9:1508:12
cody-somervilleNCommander, Can you make a comment describing my comments and how you dealt with them?08:12
NCommandersure08:13
cody-somervillePost the link to the .dsc file when it is up08:14
NCommandercody-somerville, I have that feeling I'm forgetting something08:16
NCommanderhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/28220/08:16
NCommandersecond BTW< someone should fix this: http://wiki.xubuntu.com/08:17
cody-somervilleI dunno if it needs to be that verbose.08:17
NCommander...08:18
* NCommander mutters something about not being about to win about his level of verbosity08:18
NCommanderCrud, hold on08:19
NCommanderTHe updated package fails lintian08:19
cody-somervilleWhats the error?08:19
NCommanderhttp://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/codeblocks-0807180920/lintian08:19
NCommanderI probably misused binary:Version somehow08:19
azeemNCommander: btw, did you coordinate with the other people wanting to package this for Debian?08:19
NCommanderazeem, no.08:19
NCommanderAs in, not yet, I didn't even see if their was a debian ITP, I only checked to see if an existing package was floating around08:20
NCommandercody-somerville, I'm sorta confused on how to resolve this lintian error08:21
NCommanderIt almost looks like a lintian bug08:22
NCommanderbut its mor elikely I screwed up somewhere08:23
NCommanderanyone alive?08:25
DktrKranz\sh (or another motu-sru guy), mind ACKing bug 243246 ?08:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 243246 in sigscheme "[Hardy] does not start because of missing sigscheme-init.scm" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24324608:25
\shDktrKranz: lemme look :)08:26
\shDktrKranz: acked...08:27
* DktrKranz hugs \sh08:27
* \sh blushes 08:27
* NCommander takes a picture08:28
NCommanderIsn't this a codec moment?08:28
* NCommander is shot for making such a bad pun08:28
cody-somervilleNCommander, I think I may know what the problem is.08:29
NCommanderI'm trying to package Code::blocks ;-)08:29
* NCommander is shot for the second bad pun in less then ten minutes08:29
NCommandercody-somerville, you care to enlighten me on the lintian issue?08:31
cody-somervilleOne sec08:33
* NCommander twiddles his thumbs08:38
NCommanderany ideas?08:48
cody-somervilleGetting there08:49
cody-somervilleOkay, got it08:49
* NCommander is all ears08:50
cody-somervilleI'm just going to make sure I can reproduce it. :)08:50
NCommanderIs this something I'm response for, or is it a legit lintian bug?08:51
cody-somervilleNo, it is your fault08:51
NCommanderSWEET!08:52
cody-somervilleNCommander, run dos2unix on your control file please08:52
* NCommander looks for which package its in08:52
NCommanderAnd I can say I can blame upstream for that fun little bug; I edited their control file which was in dos format08:53
NCommanderNew lintian issue08:54
NCommanderBut this is easy to fix08:54
cody-somervilleI didn't get any lintian issue after08:54
cody-somervilleWhat do you have?08:54
NCommandernot binnmuable08:54
NCommanderI replaced the source with binary and now its lintian clean for me08:55
NCommanderuploading08:56
NCommandercody-somerville, can I tell you how much I appericate this ;-)08:56
NCommandercody-somerville, as soon as it pops up, I'll give you the link to the .dsc08:59
=== rraphink is now known as raphink
NCommandermorning raphink08:59
raphinkhi NCommander08:59
NCommanderhola raphink09:00
NCommanderhow are you this morning09:00
raphinkgood thanks09:00
* NCommander wishs the revu scripts were available so I could see how this thing ticks09:01
cody-somervilleNCommander, it is available09:01
NCommanderit is?09:01
cody-somervilleYea. We're all open source fanatics here :P09:02
NCommanderSO where is launchpad's source09:02
* NCommander dives for cover09:02
cody-somervilleNCommander, launchpad isn't developed by the community or it would be open source09:06
NCommanderI'm aware of that ;-)09:06
NCommanderI was being an ass. It was the Debian Developer in me trying to express itself in this strange, understanding place09:06
NCommanderwow, its nicely documented o___o;09:08
* NCommander feels the python bug telling me to code something onto REVU09:10
NCommanderraphink, ping09:11
raphinkNCommander: yes?09:12
NCommanderraphink, I'd be intrested in implementing the ability to delete an upload that a contributor makes09:12
raphinkNCommander: in REVU?09:12
NCommanderIf I code it, any chance it could get merged into the actual revu code?09:12
NCommanderyeah09:12
NCommanderRight now, I can see five or six uploads of my packages, and they are pretty much clutter ATM ...09:13
NCommanderI like the way mentors works in this regard that a new upload simply replaces the old vs keeps them all around09:14
raphinkNCommander: you should talk with siretart about that09:14
NCommanderwell, right now I'm just seeing if I can get it running locally09:14
NCommanderIt's been awhile since I messed with python ;-)09:14
NCommandercody-somerville, http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/codeblocks-0807181010/codeblocks_8.02-0ubuntu1.dsc09:17
cody-somervilleNCommander, I'm not familiar with the <package>.package file09:22
cody-somervilleNCommander, What does it do? It looks like a menu file.09:22
huatsmorning everyone09:23
NCommandermorning huats09:23
huatsNCommander: morning09:23
NCommandercody-somerville, that came from upstream, I think its based around the debian menu system, but its outdated09:24
NCommanderI just forgot to remove me (I think I need to slowdown with my revu uploads ...)09:24
NCommandercody-somerville, its not something I can remove in the diff because it comes from the upstream tarball (dpkg-source ignores removing files)09:25
cody-somervilleAlso, uscan isn't working09:25
NCommanderIt had worked for me09:25
cody-somervillecodeblocks: Newer version (8.02-0suse103-x86_64) available on remote site:09:25
cody-somerville  http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/codeblocks/codeblocks-8.02-0suse103-x86_64.tar.gz09:25
cody-somerville  (local version is 8.02)09:25
NCommanderYeah, I got that09:25
cody-somervilleie. it is broken09:26
NCommanderAdding -src to the rules made it not work09:26
NCommanderat all09:26
* NCommander sighs at the fact that I can't seem to catch these simple errors09:28
NCommandercody-somerville, any suggestions on how to fix the watch file?09:30
cody-somervilleNCommander, working on it :)09:31
* NCommander sighs and looks at the FTBFS page09:31
NCommanderactually, does REVU have a pbuilder intergration function built in? (looking at the REVU tools page; it suggests it does, but I can't say I know for sure)09:32
cody-somerville"http://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.*)[^-]\.tar\.gz" seems to work.09:34
NCommandercody-somerville, Nope09:35
NCommanderNewest version on remote site is 8.02-0suse103-x86_6, local version is 8.0209:35
NCommanderDoesn't work09:35
* NCommander has more or less given up on uscan on sourceforge packages ...09:35
ion_http://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-([^-]+).*\.tar\.gz09:36
cody-somervillehttp://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.*)[^-]\.tar\.gz <-- works fine for me.09:36
NCommanderI keep getting the wrong package09:36
NCommanderIt need to check the -src package09:36
NCommanderALl the other ones are binaries09:36
cody-somervilleokay, that makes it easy09:37
cody-somervilleWhats the current full URI for the source package?09:37
ion_http://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.+)-src\.tar\.gz09:37
NCommanderhttp://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/codeblocks/codeblocks-8.02-src.tar.bz209:37
cody-somervilleion_'s will work09:38
cody-somervilleerr..09:38
NCommanderno matching hrefs for watch line09:38
NCommandernope09:38
cody-somervillereplacing .gz with .bz209:38
cody-somerville:P09:38
NCommanderyup09:38
* NCommander still feels bad for making you go through all this work :-P09:39
ion_I recommend using --rename --repack there, btw.09:39
ion_since it’s a bz209:39
NCommanderI have a get-orig-source target that does that09:40
NCommanderUnless you think I should change that09:40
NCommander(before I make yet another revu upload)09:40
ion_Yeah, that’s a good method.09:40
cody-somervilleNCommander, this works great:09:40
cody-somervilleversion=309:40
cody-somervillehttp://sf.net/codeblocks/codeblocks-(.+)-src\.tar\.bz209:40
NCommanderWorks here too09:40
NCommanderBut I don't get ion_'s suggestion09:40
NCommanderANd I'm not going to upload until I do get it09:40
ion_.PHONY : get-orig-source09:41
ion_get-orig-source :09:41
ion_        uscan --verbose --rename --repack09:41
cody-somervilleNCommander, you need to replace .gz with .bz209:41
NCommanderright09:41
NCommanderMy current get-orig-source gets the current version and does that09:41
NCommanderuscan grabs the latest, and not the version that was packaged09:41
NCommanderWHich is why I don't think its apporiate for the get-orig-source target09:41
cody-somervilleCorrect.09:43
NCommanderso its fine as is?09:43
cody-somervilleno09:44
cody-somervilleVERSION=$(shell parsechangelog | grep ^Version | awk -F": " '{print $$2}' | cut -d"-" -f1)09:44
NCommanderOh09:44
NCommanderAnd then have the rules file use the ${VERSION} variable09:44
NCommanderRIght?09:44
ion_cdbs already does that. ;-)09:45
NeilWbug 24671509:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246715 in ubuntu "glusterfs [needs packaging]" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24671509:45
NCommanderwoo, it works09:46
NCommanderAnything else cody-somerville?09:46
cody-somervillelet me look09:47
* NCommander feels like he's being judged or something ...09:49
AnAntHello , is onkarshinde here ?09:51
cody-somervilleNCommander, building09:54
NCommanderI'll upload the one with the updated watch file09:54
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NCommanderThe updated version is on revu, it simply has the updated get-orig-rules file and the watch change10:05
slytheringeser: around?10:11
siretartNCommander: I see you are interested in revu development. may I invite you to #ubuntuwire to discuss this? - im currently at work and terribly busy, so let's move that to a more quiet channel10:14
NCommandersiretart, I be there10:15
cody-somervilleNCommander, -dev packages should depend on their counterpart, no?10:30
* NCommander sighs10:30
NCommanderI should have just rm -r'ed the upstream debian folder and started from scratch10:31
NCommandercody-somerville, actually, looking at the dev packages10:31
NCommanderI can see a recommends10:31
NCommanderBut you can code the plugins just against the raw library itself ...10:32
cody-somervilleI'm looking at a bunch of -dev packages10:32
cody-somervilleand they all depend on their counterpart10:32
NCommanderthese do10:32
NCommanderThey depend on the libcodeblocks0-dev package10:32
NCommanderWhich is the counterpart ;-)10:32
NCommanderNow if you think the headers should also require the GUI itself10:33
NCommanderWell, yeah10:33
NCommanderBut depends are for things that strictly dependent, no?, that's why recommends was created in the first place ...10:33
cody-somervilleWhat packages do you think libwxsmithlib0-dev should depend on?10:33
NCommanderer, whoops10:33
NCommander...10:33
NCommanderMan10:33
NCommanderI know how to stick my foot in my mouth10:33
cody-somerville:S10:35
NCommandercody-somerville, Its fixed, I also added a recommends on libcodeblocks0 for codeblocks10:42
NCommanderer ...10:42
NCommanderrecommends on codeblocks for libcodeblocks010:42
NCommanderIf you have no issues, I'd like to upload what I hope my final fix is cody-somerville10:44
cody-somervilleNCommander, Have you even tried installing your package yet?10:47
NCommandercody-somerville, yup10:47
NCommanderAll the plugins load fine10:47
NCommander(had to test it due to the changes I made to the plugin search code)10:47
NCommanderI may be hopeless, but I'm not totally hopeless ;-)10:48
NCommandermime assiocations worked, and all that cool stuff10:49
cody-somervilleNCommander, I think you should be calling dh_desktop and dh_installmime10:52
cody-somervilleand dh_icons10:53
NCommanderYeah10:53
* NCommander has never packages a GUI app before10:53
NCommanderI'll have to have the installation script delete the mime file after its make install'ed10:54
cody-somervilleNCommander, thats correct behaviour?10:55
NCommanderhuh?10:55
NCommanderTHe package already installs the mime file in the right place10:55
cody-somervilleRight.10:55
NCommanderBut if I'm going to use dh_installmime, I should let it install it without the package doing anything10:56
cody-somervilleI disagree.10:56
cody-somervilleYou'd have to copy/move the mime files to debian/package.mime or debian/package.sharedmimeinfo10:57
cody-somervilleSo just call dh_installmime, dh_desktop, and dh_icon and I don't think you need to change how the package builds.10:57
NCommanderOk10:58
cody-somervilleNCommander, make sure to use dh_clean correctly to avoid problems :)10:59
brooniea/win 1911:00
NCommandercody-somerville, I have dh_clean in there11:05
NCommanderbuilding packaging11:05
NCommanderbuilding package11:06
cody-somervilleNCommander, well, you'll want to use dh_clean -k I think in some places. See the man file for dh_clean11:06
NCommandercody-somerville, all targets are built in a single pass, so I don't think there is much point to dh_clean -k for this package11:07
cody-somervilleOkay, sounds good.11:08
cody-somervilleWho should I contact if I find a bug in the Debian Developer's Reference?11:11
cody-somervilleNCommander, please let me know when I can grab from revu11:11
NCommandercody-somerville, they have a meta-package for it11:12
NCommandercody-somerville, uploading now11:15
NCommandercody-somerville, its uploaded, waiting for dinstall to run11:18
NCommandercody-somerville, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=290411:29
cody-somervilleI got it the first time :]11:30
NCommanderoh11:30
cody-somervilleNCommander, also, the ultra long dh_clean line is not cool :P11:31
NCommanderSo I should go back to rm?11:31
NCommandercause reading the dh_clean page tells me that's the wrong way (tm) to do it11:32
NCommandercody-somerville, I just broke it into multiple lines (I accidently left an rm there; I'm falling alseep at the wheel)11:35
NCommanderIs there anything else?11:35
cody-somervilleNCommander, I believe it is possible to place each one on its own line in debian/clean11:35
NCommanderI just went dh clean *file*  \ *file* \11:36
NCommanderwith actual linebreaks there11:36
cody-somervilleOkay.11:36
NCommanderUploading. Again.11:36
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NCommanderI need to sleep at some point11:37
lagano11:37
cody-somervilleMe too11:37
cody-somervilleWell, actually, I need to go to work, haha11:37
NCommanderIf this doesn't get the cody-somerville seal of approval, I'll get it tommorow11:38
cody-somervillehehe11:39
NCommandercody-somerville, so you like the idea of REVU being able to pull from PPAs?11:39
NCommandercody-somerville, ok, its uploaded11:40
cody-somervilleI'd rather we just upload to the PPA and REVU syncs it.11:40
NCommandercody-somerville, that's the eventual feature-complete plan, but it might take awhile to implement11:40
cody-somervilleNCommander, why would it be difficult to implement?11:40
cody-somervilleNCommander, I don't see it as difficult myself.11:40
NCommanderer, not difficult11:40
NCommandertime consuming11:40
NCommanderOr maybe just because I have a sleep deprieved mind11:40
NeilWIs it late where you are NCommander?11:41
NCommander(and I need to make sure there are no oops first, I can see though the fact that it would remove the "abuse" of revu it has been getting tonight11:41
NCommanderWell11:41
NCommanderMost people won't consider 06:41 "late"11:41
NeilWSo late you're early :)11:42
NCommanderpretty much11:42
cody-somervilleNCommander, so what does the new sharedmimeinfo file do?11:43
NCommanderIt gets installed in share/mime/packages/codeblocks, and then runs the install script11:44
NCommandernot the install script11:44
NCommanderthe ... update-mime script11:44
NCommandersorry, my mind has checked out11:44
cody-somervilleNCommander, but what will that do that your package wasn't doing before?11:46
NCommanderrun the actual update-mime script11:46
cody-somervillebut I thought codeblocks already installed a mime file11:46
cody-somervilleWhy did you create a second one?11:46
NCommanderI didn't11:47
NCommanderThat IS codeblocks' mime file11:47
NCommanderdh_installmime needs a file to install11:47
cody-somervilleNCommander, so what did you do with the other copy?11:48
NCommanderleft it in place, you said that would be fine11:49
NCommanderIt will get clobbered by the dh_installmime script11:49
cody-somervilleEither that or the build will fail11:51
cody-somervilleI don't think your dh_clean call is going to work11:52
cody-somervilleluckily it does11:57
NCommandercody-somerville, why didn't you think it was going to work?11:59
cody-somervilleNCommander, I thought you were trying to delete files in the build directory but I quickly realized otherwise11:59
cody-somervilleAnyhow, /me is building the package now.12:00
NCommandersame here12:05
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sistpoty|workhi folks12:10
IulianHello sistpoty12:12
sistpoty|workhi Iulian12:12
NCommandercody-somerville, it built successfully here12:22
NCommanderThe mime file ends up in the right place too12:22
cody-somervilleNCommander, still building for me12:25
* NCommander blesses cody-somerville with a distcc network12:25
cody-somervillereally? :)12:26
NCommanderwell, it would probably be slower to distrubute over the internet ...12:27
NCommanderso have I finally gotten your advocateness?12:30
Riddelldevfil: hi, you did the koffice merge a while ago?12:33
devfilRiddell: yes, I need to redo it12:33
Riddelldevfil: what for?12:34
devfilRiddell: there is a new revision in Debian12:34
Riddelldevfil: I just uploaded the patch you put on launchpad, sorry for the delay12:34
RiddellI wasn't sure if we should just replace koffice 1 with 2 but upstream don't want that12:35
Riddellso thanks for doing that12:35
NCommandercody-somerville, what is your computer O_O;12:35
devfilRiddell: no problem, however do you know why Ubuntu .orig.tar.gz is different than Debian?12:35
cody-somervilleNCommander, 1.8Ghz 1GB of ram laptop12:36
Riddelldevfil: it just means we packaged it first and its ended up with different timestamps somehow12:36
NCommandercody-somerville, Ah. I'm not used to not having a dual core so things seem faster then they really are ;-)12:36
devfilRiddell: ok, I will do the new merge at the same way12:37
Riddelldevfil: we're past debian import freeze now so no point merging unless there's something in debian we paticularly want to bring in12:38
Riddelldevfil: however there is a new koffice 2 alpha release that would be lovely to have packaged :)12:39
devfilRiddell: a huge work for me12:39
Riddelldevfil: also if you're doing KDE stuff it might be an idea to be on #kubuntu-devel, even if just to poke us so merges don't stay untouched for a month :)12:39
Riddelldevfil: no more than merging koffice 1 should be12:40
devfilRiddell: then I will try to take a look at it but I don't promise nothing12:41
Riddelldevfil: koffice2 is already in the archive, should be just a case of copying over the debian/ directory, compiling (the long bit) and updating the .install files12:43
devfilRiddell: I did understand a new package, then I think there are not problems12:44
Riddelldevfil: oh and update debian/cdbs/ with the current version (grab it from kdepimlibs)12:46
Riddellalso add Conflicts: foo   for each foo-kde4 package12:47
devfilRiddell: ok, np12:48
cody-somervilleNCommander, once we get this into the archive, we should look at splitting contrib out of the source package.12:55
norsettohuats !!!12:57
norsettoah gotcha for once12:58
huatsnorsetto !!!12:59
huatssure :)12:59
huats(for once)12:59
apacheloggerIulian: gtkmm-utils uploaded to new queue13:34
Iulianapachelogger: Great, thanks.13:34
aboganiHi MOTUs! Could Someone review my package on REVU please? The packages is rt-tests (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=rt-tests): A set of programs that test and measure various components of "realtime" kernel behavior, such as timer latency, signal latency and the functioning of  priority-inheritance mutexes. Thanks in advance! Please be patient with me it's my first package! :-) Thanks in advance!13:42
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norsettoabogani: since you are using a patch system, don't patch Makefile inline13:50
norsettoabogani: Maintainer is Ubuntu MOTU13:50
Iulianabogani: In the debian/changelog file use LP instead of Closes. debian/copyright: you didn't specify which version of GPL debian packaging copyright is under.13:51
norsettoabogani: src/pi_tests/tst-mutexpi10.c is licensed LGPL13:52
norsettoabogani: copyright on Thomas Gleixner is 2005-200813:53
norsettoabogani: no need to say this ", see `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'" for package license, just say ", see above" or specify that it is GPL-213:55
norsettoabogani: no need to have usr/sbin in dirs13:56
norsettoabogani: no need to repeat dh_installchangelogs twice13:57
aboganinorsetto, Iulian: Thanks a lot!13:59
norsettoabogani: ah wait, I see why you use usr/sbin13:59
norsettoabogani: first of all, usr/bin is more correct, second, why don't you do a make install and then use dh_install ?14:00
aboganinorsetto: is root required priv utility14:00
norsettoabogani: yes, so?14:00
norsettoabogani: you also seem to be installing only 2 of them out of 414:01
aboganinorsetto: Is a root utility not normal user: usr/sbin is right place  (at least for me!)14:01
norsettoabogani: it has to be the right place for the distro, and we follow the FHS14:01
aboganinorsetto: Ok. I'll move it in usr/bin.14:04
norsettoabogani: do you need to be on the rt-kernel to use tese utilities?14:06
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norsettoabogani: I would also change the short description to make it clearer, perhaps something like "Utilities to test "realtime" kernel behaviour"14:10
norsettoabogani: can you add the homepage field in debian/control ?14:10
aboganinorsetto: no homepage at all. Only a directory on kernel.org and relatives tarballs...14:11
norsettoabogani: yes, I'm looking at that right now14:11
norsettoabogani: no fancy marketing for these guys ...14:11
huatsraphink: are you around ?14:12
norsettoabogani: I think it would also be nice to list in the long description what the utilities are and very shortly what they do14:14
DktrKranzzul: do you plan to fix bug 215571 soon?14:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 215571 in system-config-samba "[SRU] system-config-samba.py crashed with OSError in onHelpClicked()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21557114:14
zulDktrKranz: yep14:15
DktrKranzzul: thanks :)14:15
aboganinorsetto: Yes you are perfectly right. Appended to all your previous suggestions. :-)14:15
norsettoabogani: do I risk locking my system if I run any of these in a terminal emulator?14:16
aboganinorsetto: No. Anyway set number of loops (-l).14:17
norsettoabogani: suggestions? 10-100-1000000 ?14:18
aboganiabogani: 1000014:19
aboganinorsetto: 1000014:19
norsettoabogani: I know its not your fault, but the manpage for pi_stress uses short options and the program doesn't accept them14:22
norsettoabogani: and pi_stress locked my system, had to do an hard reboot %_#(&@_#%+@#%14:27
aboganisorry14:28
huatssistpoty|work: sorry to bother you14:40
huatsbut apparently you are one of the people to contact when a package does not showup in REVU14:40
huats:)14:40
sistpoty|workhuats: I guess any revu admin in here could do the job... but /me takes a look ;)14:42
huats:)14:43
huatsthanks14:43
huatsI know any revu admin14:43
huatsbut I just pick you, in order to avoid pinging everyone14:43
huats:)14:43
sistpoty|workheh14:44
sistpoty|workhuats: is the package tktreectrl?14:44
huatssistpoty|work: yes14:44
sistpoty|workkk14:44
sistpoty|workhuats: I'm refreshing the keyring right now... once this is done, I'll put back your package, so it should show up then (probably 10-15 minutes from now)14:45
huatsok14:46
huatsthanks14:46
huatssistpoty|work: you have my word, next time I'll pick another revu admin :)14:46
sistpoty|work:)14:46
huatsthat was akeyring pb ?14:46
sistpoty|workhuats: at least the key the .changes file was signed with was not in revu's keyring14:47
huatssistpoty|work: hum, I've added myself to the keyring yesterday...14:47
huatssistpoty|work: may be I haven't waited enought...14:47
huatssistpoty|work: thanks14:47
sistpoty|workhuats: you mean you joined revu-uploaders? then I guess just noone synced the revu's keyring yet since then ;)14:48
huatsyes that's what I meant14:48
huats:)14:48
geserslytherin: Hi, you were looking for me?14:49
slytheringeser: Yes. I was wondering what should we do about batik update. I didn't get any reply to my question on debian-java. also Recent separate discussion about .orig.tar.gz has confused me.14:51
geserslytherin: good question, I'd suggest to try asking an archive admin but they're all on the dev sprint14:53
slytheringeser: Well 3-4 packages have depwait on batik.14:56
k0phi all.14:56
k0pI have a su-wrapper-not-su-to-root warning.14:56
k0pwhta's the way to solve this problem?14:57
Iuliank0p: Use su-to-root -X15:04
k0pIulian, if I use it I have a error15:05
Iuliank0p: What kind of error?15:06
huatspochu: hey15:06
huatsthanks for your mail15:06
huats:)15:06
Iuliank0p: You should use su-to-root -X in your menu or desktop file.15:06
k0pyeha15:06
k0pIulian, i'm compiling again15:06
k0pto get another error15:06
k0pw8 a second, please15:07
Iuliank0p: Is it the same warning?15:07
k0pn15:07
Iuliank0p: If it's the same warning it means that you wrote su-to-root -X in the wrong place.15:07
geserslytherin: the only issue blocking me from uploading batik is the .orig.tar.gz. I don't know which way is best and how the version should look like then.15:08
k0pit's not the same15:08
slytheringeser: I will be leaving now. If you can discuss this with persia tomorrow and let me know then I will make changes. Also ask him to read the discussion on D-J list and suggest changes accordingly.15:10
k0pIulian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28280/15:11
Iuliank0p: It seems that the first error need the -c flag, add it.15:12
k0p:)15:13
k0psure15:13
k0pwhat's -X?15:14
* persia failed to notice the ping for too long: which discussion?15:14
norsettopersia: whether we should invade the Sumerian empire now or rather wait until Macedonia is under control15:15
DktrKranznorsetto: wasn't about a "wheel"?15:16
norsettoDktrKranz: whell? whats that!?15:16
ion_I thought it was about whether we should keep the Stargate project secret or expose it to the public.15:16
k0pIulian, no errors.. no warnings, but after install my app don't run as root. su-to-root command not found15:17
k0pwhat's suppose to do?15:17
DktrKranznorsetto: a modern crack, you have four of them and you can go almost everywhere15:17
Iuliank0p: How do you run it?15:17
norsettoDktrKranz: and more importantly, how do you spell it :-)15:17
k0pIulian, menu applications15:17
k0pinternet - Umit (as root)15:18
DktrKranznorsetto: Rome citizens usually refer to it as "ruota"15:18
Iuliank0p: And what message do you get?15:18
k0pFailed executing "su-to-root" (File not found or dir not exists)15:18
k0psomething like that15:19
norsettoDktrKranz: ah, the rota! Could be usefull for abandoned children ...15:19
DktrKranzwpBUTT.c:62515:19
DktrKranzwhoops, sorry15:19
Iuliank0p: Try to run it from command line with root.15:19
k0pIulian, run the application as root?15:20
pochuhi huats, and no problem ;)15:20
k0por in command line su-to-root -c -X umit?15:20
k0pwireshark package have the same trouble...15:21
Iuliank0p: Yes, run it as root.15:21
k0pIulian, sudo umit runs very well15:22
Iuliank0p: You have nothing to do with su-to-root now. You wrote that in the menu file.15:22
k0pgksu umit runs fine too.15:22
Iuliank0p: Then, what is the problem?15:22
k0pI don't have su-to-root command15:22
Iuliank0p: It doesn't even exist. You wrote su-to-root -X -c in the menu file to fix the su-wrapper-not-su-to-root warning.15:24
k0phmm15:25
k0pok15:25
Iuliank0p: That was the problem. Now as you can see you can run it as root.15:25
k0phmm15:25
IulianStill confused, ha?15:25
k0pnot really ... only at command line15:25
k0pyeah.. still15:26
k0psorry15:26
IulianNo need to be sorry.15:26
k0pIulian, can you take a revision in my package?15:27
k0phttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit it's the link15:28
Iuliank0p: You better ask a motu to review your package but I can have a look at it later.15:28
k0pask a motu? who're motu?15:29
IulianI'm not a motu.15:29
k0pit's the people responsable mantainer ubuntu repository?15:29
k0phm sure Iulian15:29
k0pIulian, thanks for all.15:30
k0pare there some motu that can review my package, please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit15:30
RainCTk0p: in the .desktop files, please change the the Name to "Umit Network Scanner" and the GenericName to "Network Scanner" (Umit is not generic ;)), and write a better comment (starting with a verb)15:31
k0pok :)15:32
RainCTXB-Python-Version: current15:33
huatsso am I, looking for someone to review a package :  http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tktreectrl15:33
DktrKranzk0p: also, you should clearly state in debian/copyright which files are under GPLv2 and which ones under LGPLv215:33
RainCTk0p: that should be in the Package stanza (instead of in the Source one)15:33
k0pDktrKranz, have a description of what files is under LGPLv2?15:34
k0pcan be a name of folder?15:34
RainCTk0p: the README is not interesting for end users, you can remove the debian/docs file15:35
k0pRainCT, removed debian/docs.15:36
DktrKranzk0p: I guess they're the ones under higwidgets/, so you just need to say "Files under higwidgets/ are licensed under LGPLv2 ........" You can easily check with licensecheck -r .15:36
RainCTk0p: lintian says that a dh_desktop call is missing15:36
RainCTk0p: uhm.. does the watch file work?15:37
k0phmm how I test?15:38
RainCTk0p: uscan --verbose inside the root of the source dir15:38
RainCTk0p: the manpage's options section is not finished15:38
k0pRainCT, I know. I'm finishing.15:39
RainCTok15:39
k0pbut about the watch file15:39
DktrKranzRainCT: is dh_desktop really required nowadays? Wasn't it meant to manage MIME extensions in the past?15:39
k0pwhats suppose do what?15:39
RainCTDktrKranz: I'm not sure (that's why I wrote "lintian says") :)15:40
k0pRainCT, "Network Scanning Frontend" it's nice to Comment?15:40
RainCTk0p: no, it should start with a verb15:40
RainCT"Scan the network for <whatever it scans for>"15:40
RainCTor something like that would be OK15:40
RainCTk0p: the .TH line of the manpage is missing the last modification date, btw15:41
k0pRainCT, ok .. I want to finish manpage when all of rest was complete15:41
kgoetzHi motus! can i use pbuilder to generate a new .dsc file? i changed the source code for a pacakge, dch -i'd it, and i'd like to generate a .dsc that i can build in my ppa (to test it works). i thought pbuilder would let me do that, but i seem to be mistaken15:42
RainCTk0p: what file is the right one, rules or rules3?15:42
k0pRainCT, about dh_desktop?15:42
k0psorry rules3 is removed here too.15:43
RainCTdon't add dh_desktop, DktrKranz says it isn't necessary15:43
k0pRainCT, ok. only fix man page and desktop changes?15:44
RainCTk0p: consider using dh_install instead of debian/dirs and cp's15:44
DktrKranzRainCT: well... really... I don't know :)15:44
DktrKranzjust some bits from the past15:44
k0pdh_install it's a command to install files?15:44
RainCTk0p: yes15:44
sistpoty|workkgoetz: dpkg-buildpackage will create a .dsc (s.th. like dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S [-sa])15:45
k0phow it works? dh_install <source> <destination> ?15:45
RainCTDktrKranz: Well, I'll believe you ;). And the manpage (and what I could understands from the source) says that it only does something on .desktop files with MimeType= anyway15:45
sistpoty|workkgoetz: or debuild -S (which underneath calls dpkg-buildpackage actually)15:45
kgoetzsistpoty|work: i just tried pdebuild again( not got it working all day) and it worked ... not sure whats going on, but it seems to be doing what i want atm15:45
RainCTk0p: yes, where destination is usr/blah/whatever (ie, without debian/pkgname) or just call dh_install and use a debian/install file15:46
RainCTk0p: please add a debian/menu file15:46
k0pmenu files?15:46
sistpoty|workkgoetz: yes, pdebuild does work as well, (and will also build the package for you)15:46
k0pit's replace desktops?15:46
RainCTk0p: no. I rather guess .desktop files will end up replacing debian/menu, but it's used by the Debian menu and some others (Openbox, for example)15:47
k0pyeah sure15:47
k0pfluxbox too right?15:47
k0p:)15:47
kgoetzsistpoty|work: thats just it -i've had all sorts of issues with pdebuild today, revolving around not resolving dependancies correctly. i can only assume this package doesnt require anything outside build-essential15:47
* RainCT doesn't know as he hasn't used fluxbox15:48
k0pRainCT, hehehehe15:48
k0p:D15:48
aboganiNew version of rt-tests package uploaded on revu with all norsetto and Iualian suggestions except for "since you are using a patch system, don't patch Makefile inline". Sorry i don't have a clue for it! :-( I don't know how do the same thing in a better way.15:49
RainCTuhm.. I don't like the descriptions in debian/control (and the short one should start with a lowercase character -unless it's a name-, btw)15:49
norsettoabogani: you have a patch already in debian/patches, so you surely know how to make a patch ...15:49
RainCTk0p: but overall it looks quite good, though it still needs some work (mainly what I've told you) :)15:50
k0pRainCT, w8 a moment. about install files.. where i Can use source files?15:50
k0pRainCT, yeah yeah i'm working on it right now :)15:50
k0pRainCT, "Scan the host in your network graphically" should be nice to Comment?15:51
IulianCan someone please have a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=salasaga (1 advocate needed)15:51
kgoetzafter i apply a debdiff to a package, what tag do i need to give it? something about universe-sponsors?15:51
huatskgoetz: no tag15:51
huatssubscrive the correct sponsor15:51
Iuliankgoetz: Just subscribe u-u-s if the package is in universe.15:52
RainCTk0p: I don't understand the question about install files15:52
huatsubuntu-universe-sponsors if the package is in universe15:52
k0pRainCT, don't worry about that question. I'll find on guides :)15:52
kgoetzIulian huats thanks.15:52
huatskgoetz: no pb15:52
k0pRainCT, comment is it fine ?15:52
jdstrandNCommander: hi!15:52
* kgoetz subscribes the sponsors, and crosses his fingers hes got hsi debdiff correct.15:53
RainCTk0p: the "graphically" is redundant as only graphical applications are in the menu15:54
jdstrandNCommander: I was looking at the clamav debdiffs for dapper-gutsy, and the whitespace is different from ScottK's patch for hardy (did you do it manually?)15:54
k0pRainCT, yeah sure15:54
aboganinorsetto: When i start dpkg-buildpackage it execute a "clean" action which execute Upstream Authors's Makefile clean directive. That Makefile directive remove permanently UA's Changelog file! What i can do with a patch if when they are applied UA's Changelog is already deleted?15:55
k0pRainCT, remove graphically. nice? :D15:55
k0por change by easily?15:55
jdstrandNCommander: was there a reason for this? since these are all the same version, we really should try to keep the patches the same. if you could respin by applying the hardy debdiff (without its changelog entry), that would be fantastic15:55
jdstrandcd15:56
jdstranderr..15:56
norsettoabogani: hmmm, patch as a pre-requisite for the clean rule?15:56
aboganinorsetto: Yes15:57
norsettoabogani: I mean, if you patch before the clean rule it should work15:57
RainCTk0p: perhaps "Explore the network and scan ports"15:58
aboganinorsetto: Ahhh Ok. I understand. I'll try immediately...15:58
RainCTk0p: (that's basically what the short description in the nmap manpage says, and umitproject.org says that it can do the same as nmap)15:58
k0pyeah15:59
norsettoabogani: no, its pure BS15:59
k0p:)15:59
geser\sh, DktrKranz, ScottK and other ~motu-sru: is it possible to get a bugfix release into -updates? I got contacted by gnumed-client upstream asking if it's possible to get a newer (bugfix) release into hardy-updates (see also bug #224077)15:59
RainCTIulian: uhm.. didn't I look at salasaga?15:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224077 in gnumed-client "Outdated (buggy) GNUmed version (0.2.8.2) in Hardy " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22407715:59
norsettoabogani: can't do that, you have to unpatch before clean15:59
aboganinorsetto: BS? :-?16:00
k0pRainCT, sure16:00
aboganiBrainStorming?16:00
norsettoabogani: cagata16:00
abogani:-D16:00
IulianRainCT: I don't know.16:00
DktrKranzgeser: yes, if changes are targeted to bugfix only and without huge features16:00
RainCTIulian: yeah, I'm remembering now. but I'm too lazy to testbuild it now :P16:01
DktrKranzgeser: for extra points, it can be useful to isolate some test cases to see if bugs are really fixed16:01
k0pRainCT, dh_install is bettet than install cmd?16:01
RainCTk0p: yes16:01
RainCTk0p: dh_install is specific for Debian packages16:02
IulianRainCT: Heh ;)16:02
RainCTk0p: just add a dh_install call to debian/rules, create a debian/install file and write there "file dest" each on a line (directories and * as wildcard are accepted)16:03
norsettosoren: hmmm, funnily enough the minutes of the MC are longer when there is nothing to discuss than when there is something16:03
RainCTk0p: and that will create all needed directories and put the files there16:03
k0pRainCT, hmm i'm seeing the man page of dh_install16:04
k0pit's wonder16:04
RainCTk0p: the examples there are a different use case (source packages with multiple binary packages), just ignore them :)16:04
k0pRainCT, sure.16:05
sorennorsetto: :) I deliberately increased the verbosity to make it look more impressive.16:06
norsettosoren : lol16:06
k0pRainCT, i'm search for a sample. it's because I don't understand .. I want install *.svg. But how says source?16:07
RainCTk0p: what's the cp command you are using for that?16:07
k0pcp share/icons/umit/*.svg $(CURDIR).../usr/share...16:08
k0psomehting like that16:08
AnAntHello, is onkarshinde@gmail.com here ?16:09
AnAntI need advice regarding the comments on: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=swt-gtk       |16:10
persiaAnAnt: That would be slytherin16:10
AnAntComments for upload of July    |  Title: Details for upload "swt-gtk"16:10
RainCTcp share/icons/umit/*.svg$(CURDIR)/debian/umit/usr/share/icons/16:10
AnAntoh16:10
RainCTk0p: ok, that would be:    share/icons/umit/*svg usr/share/icons    in debian/install16:10
RainCT* share/icons/umit/*.svg usr/share/icons16:11
JontheEchidnadevfil: did you get anywhere with the koffice2 packaging? Because I had started yesterday. I guess I forgot to tell Riddell. :P16:11
k0pfine thanks :D16:11
AnAntI need advice regarding the comments on: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=swt-gtk , slytherin says that I should file a sync request for swt-gtk, I think he said that because he thought that an old version of swt-gtk source package is already in Ubuntu16:12
AnAntanyways, Debian's swt-gtk build-depends on xulrunner-dev which does not exist in Ubuntu16:12
AnAntso how can Ubuntu sync that package ?16:13
JontheEchidnadevfil: right now I'm trying to resolve the ftbfs that the current version has16:13
AnAntisn't the proper course of action to make a package based on Debian's one (like the one I put on REVU) ?16:13
RainCTAnAnt: there is xulrunner-1.9-dev16:15
k0pRainCT, works fine.16:16
RainCTAnAnt: and I think (but better ask asac or someone else from the Mozilla team) that the xulrunner package in Debian is different to that one in Ubuntu16:16
k0pRainCT, about control description.. is it too short?16:16
AnAntRainCT: yes, that's what I mean, swt-gtk cannot be synch'ed (because AFAIK, sync means taking the package as it is without any change), what I done is prepared an swt-gtk package the build-depends on xulrunner-1.9-dev instead of xulrunner-dev.16:16
RainCTk0p: yes, and not descriptive enough. the description is not there to say if the applications is easy or difficult to use (though you can mention that), but rather to explain what it does16:17
k0pRainCT, are you talking about short or long description?16:17
RainCTAnAnt: is it based upon that one in Debian (if that's possible)?16:17
AnAntRainCT: yes, it is16:18
RainCTk0p: both (although the "easy" part should definitely not be in the short one ;))16:18
AnAntRainCT: I took debian's package, and just changed the build-depends from xulrunner-dev to xulrunner-1.9-dev16:18
RainCTAnAnt: then file a merge bug, attach a debdiff against the version in Debian and explain why the changes are necessary, and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors16:19
k0pRainCT, "Scan the hosts in your network discovering" should be nice to short description?16:19
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RainCTk0p: the short description is not like the comment in the .desktop file, so "graphical frontend for nmap" or something like that may be more appropiate16:21
AnAntRainCT: ok, what's the difference between a merge request & sync request ? btw, I did do a request sync when slytherin told me too ( bug 249158 )16:21
RainCTk0p: but yes, "utility to scan the hosts in your network" could be used (is nmap only for your local network?)16:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249158 in ubuntu "Please sync swt-gtk 3.4-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24915816:21
k0pRainCT, nop16:22
k0pok16:25
k0pChanged the description too16:25
k0pRainCT, about watch file.. what's suppose to do?16:25
devfilJontheEchidna: I'm not working at the package for now16:25
JontheEchidnadevfil: ok, thanks16:26
AnAntRainCT: shall I change that to a merge request ?16:27
RainCTAnAnt: yes16:28
RainCTk0p: check if there are newer versions16:29
RainCTk0p: and if there is a newer one download the tarball16:29
AnAntRainCT: what are the changes ? just s/sync/merge/ and  add the debdiff ?16:29
k0phm  sure16:29
asacAnAnt: RainCT: xulrunner-dev should already be in last upload iirc16:30
asaci added it to ease mergin16:30
asaclet me check16:30
AnAntasac: that would be great !16:30
RainCTk0p: here is an example of a working watch file http://paste.ubuntu.com/28295/plain/16:31
k0pRainCT, great :D16:32
k0pI undestand now :p16:32
k0pthanks. i'm working on it now16:32
* RainCT tip of the day: don't tell your little brother to use GIMP :P16:32
RainCTk0p: you're welcome, thanks for your work :)16:33
AnAntwhat's that tip ?16:33
k0pRainCT, thanks :)16:33
RainCTAnAnt: (else he will annoy you every 5 minutes because he doesn't know how to do something :P)16:33
AnAntoh16:34
* RainCT is experiencing that since some hours ;P16:34
RainCTAnAnt: remove the changelog from the bug report, there is no point to have it for new packages. and yes, change the title to merge, attach the debdiff, explain why the merge is needed and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors. unless that isn't necessary anymore now that there is or will be xulrunner-dev in Ubuntu16:35
k0pRainCT, \d is digit right?16:35
smagounI have a package that requires /opt/foo/bin to be in the path for building. Is there a way to modify $PATH from within debian/rules so that configure, make etc have /opt/foo/bin on the path? I'd rather not have to build with 'PATH=$PATH:/opt/foo/bin debuild --preserve-envvar PATH'? I'm using CDBS if that matters.16:36
RainCTk0p: yes. but just use (.*) for the version number16:36
RainCTk0p: now that I look at it Glest is a bad example (upstream changed the tarball name with every release lol)16:36
asacAnAnt: RainCT: ok i forgot about uploading it as we were in alpha-2 freeze back then16:37
k0p:)16:37
asacwill do so after updating the USN16:37
AnAntasac: so no need to merge ?16:38
AnAntasac: so no need to merge swt-gtk I mean ?16:39
AnAntasac: what's USN ?16:39
k0pRainCT, .+ suppose.. no?16:40
ion_Both work, it doesn’t *really* matter. .+ guards agains a hypothetical file called e.g. foo-.tar.gz, but that doesn’t really matter.16:41
ion_And i seem to be repeating phrases repeating phrases.16:42
k0pion_, yeah sure :D16:42
k0pion_, do you use ion? or pwm?16:42
ion_Nope. Currently i’m using awesome.16:42
ion_First of all, ion is non-free. Additionally, awesome is better anyway. :-)16:43
k0pawesome ?16:43
ion_apt-cache show awesome16:43
k0pion_, omg.. i'm seeing screenshots..16:44
k0p:o16:44
asacAnAnt: wait one or two hours until the current upoad has built16:44
k0pit's looks nice16:44
asaccurrently uploading16:44
AnAntasac: great, thanks16:44
asacAnAnt: xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_source.changes16:45
asacthats what goes up16:45
geserpersia: any idea how to proceed with the batik .orig.tar.gz?16:48
* sistpoty|work heads home... cya17:05
asacAnAnt: why do you ask and leave quickly?17:14
asacAnAnt: whats the issue with libnspr4 in hardy for oyu?17:15
AnAntasac: that's quickly ?17:15
asacAnAnt: well. you are still here17:15
asacnot sure why you would leave the other channel ;)17:15
asaclibnspr4 is a left over thing from feisty most likely17:16
AnAntasac: for a while, there has been that package libnspr4-0d, which appears in update manager, yet when I try to update it, I get an error that it conflicts with some other package (I think libnspr4)17:16
asacurgh17:17
AnAntasac: ah, thanks17:17
AnAntasac: as for the other channel, I don't think that I left quickly17:17
asacAnAnt: you left without reason ;)17:18
asacanyway17:18
asacthats bad17:18
asac(libnspr4)17:18
asacAnAnt: what exactly does update-manager tell you?17:18
AnAntasac: I don't remember what file exists in both packages17:19
AnAntasac: anyways, I removed libnspr4 now17:19
asacthats bad17:19
asacAnAnt: did update manager suggest you that?17:19
asacor did it refuse to upgrade completely?17:19
AnAntasac: well, untill yesterday, it would fetch the update and attempt to install it, then gives me that file conflict error17:21
AnAntasac: then today, apt-get says it will hold back libnspr4-0d17:22
asacAnAnt: apt-get or update manager?17:24
AnAntasac: apt-get ! update manager would say something that it cannot upgrade all packages when it starts (ie. before download attempt)17:25
asacAnAnt: ok thanks. apt-get dist-upgrade should have removed that package though. did you try that?17:26
AnAntasac: no, but I think you're right17:27
k0pRainCT, It's already upload the fixes. can you take a look again? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit17:28
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asacAnAnt: ok thanks :(17:30
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NCommanderScottK, morning17:32
AnAntasac: you tried youtube with gnash ?17:32
asacin intrepid? doesnt work due to some gstreamer issues i presume17:33
AnAntasac: in hardy17:34
NCommanderasac, try using swfdec, I had much better luck17:34
asacAnAnt: in hardy its 0.8.2 .... might be that youtube changed their player so it doesnt work anymore ... right. we should do a backport. please try the player in ~gnash ppa17:35
AnAntasac: I did17:35
AnAntasac: it does play, but very wierd17:35
AnAntasac: I used 0.8.3 from the PPA17:36
asachmm17:36
asacworks for me17:36
asacmaybe just a specific youtube player is broken, but others work?17:36
asacAnAnt: which link doesnt work for oyu?17:37
AnAntasac: slow, cannot rewind the video back, the play button does nothing (doesn't switch to pause)17:37
* NCommander looks for a sponsor17:37
AnAntasac: one of the ubuntudevelopers videos called Jockey17:38
asacAnAnt: ok. thats not completely broken then :)17:38
asacmost likely it just doesnt work for most players17:38
AnAntasac: I tried another video too17:38
AnAntasac: also, there's a flash plugin called JWPlayer (something like that), doesn't work well17:39
AnAntasac: that's not youtube17:39
asacAnAnt: youtube has a bunch of different players ... if the player looks the same it wouldnt work17:39
AnAntasac: prolly, I should file a bug or so17:39
asacAnAnt: look for older videos17:39
AnAntasac: ok17:39
NCommanderanyone care to look and perpahs sponsor codeblocks?17:40
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copproin a makefile, is there anyway to explicitly call another target?18:08
copprowait, nvm18:08
persiageser_: After reading the debian-java@ thread, I'm really uncertain.  I'm tempted to say "Whatever the maintainer wants".  Worst case, we have a manual merge next time.18:28
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LucidFoxHow do Ubuntu buildds handle packages build-depending on sun-java?-jdk?18:57
LucidFoxDo they just fail to build?18:58
sorenpreseeded acceptance of license.18:59
sorenIIRC.18:59
sorenLucidFox: ^19:00
LucidFoxHow do I test-build them in pbuilder?19:00
sorenpreseeded acceptance of license. :)19:00
LucidFoxfails in pbuilder with default settings19:00
persiaLucidFox: The magic code is at wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/KnowledgeBase19:00
LucidFoxmaybe I should just switch it to build with openjdk?19:01
sorenpersia: What? You document stuff instead of figuring everything out from scratch every time? That's cheating!19:01
sorenLucidFox: If you can, that's certainly preferable.19:01
persiasoren: It's my part to save the universe: less keystrokes means less electrons losing momentum, and ultimately, the delay of total heat-death.19:05
LucidFoxThe way I see it, batik has been forever FTBFS, so there's nothing currently depending on it and getting it into universe would be more important than keeping compatibility with Java 5.19:06
sorenpersia: Hippie.19:06
persiaLucidFox: slytherin is tracking an effort to get everything to work ith gcj or openJDK: any help is surely appreciated.19:07
sorenpersia: :)19:07
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persiaLucidFox: I'm all for putting it in universe, although especially in the case of batik, I encourage you to get input from slytherin, who has a plan (involving some SVN pull from fop and what not)19:14
LucidFoxpersia> there's some discussion in bug #15048419:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 150484 in batik "batik has FTFBS forever" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15048419:17
LucidFox"Also Emmet Hikory (persia), suggested that the svn export currently done from fop svn to get source of pdf transcoder library should go as a patch instead of in orig.tar.gz. We have not reached any decision in this aspect also."19:17
nhandlerI just want to be clear on this. We are no longer meant to document in debian/changelog when we update the Maintainer field in debian/control, right?19:17
persiaLucidFox: Heh.  RIght.  I was just reviewing the debian-java@ discussion, and it seems there are a lot of opinions.  I'm not going to block on my opinion, as there are too many opinions for me to be sure I'm right.19:19
LucidFoxWhat about prebuilt jars?19:20
persiaLucidFox: Well, you need to delete the binaries, or at least otherwise ensure that nothing prebuilt gets into the binary packages.19:28
LucidFoxit doesn't get into the binary packages19:29
LucidFoxI know freecol removes prebuilt jars from the orig.tar.gz19:30
LucidFoxand libwoodstox-java, which it depends on19:30
nhandlerI just want to be clear on this. We are no longer meant to document in debian/changelog when we update the Maintainer field in debian/control, right?19:45
cody-somervillenhandler, Right. We just assume uploads that have empty changelogs are just updates to the maintainer field.19:46
nhandlerThanks cody-somerville. I just wanted to make sure. Someone should probably update the update-maintainer script19:46
amikropHello. I have a Game Boy Advance game (in an actuall Game Boy disquette). Is there any way I can play it in my pc?19:47
joaopintoamikrop, wrong channel ?19:54
amikropjoaopinto: I use Ubuntu 8.04.19:54
joaopintothis channel is not for ubuntu support, that is #ubuntu19:54
amikropOh, alright.19:55
nedkohi persia19:55
nedkopersia: http://nedko.arnaudov.name/tmp/ladi-patchage-20080706.png19:55
persianedko: Looking good.19:58
k0psomeone can review last changes of my package, please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit20:03
emgenthello20:10
nhandlerHi emgent20:10
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emgentsomeone have time to see libtool?20:21
emgentnew intrepid upload caused FTBFS in wmaker package20:22
emgentmake: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh', needed by `ltmain.sh'.  Stop.20:22
emgentsome main dev can take a look?20:22
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norsettoemgent: there was an email about new libtool in the devel m.l. this morning, perhaps its related to this problem20:32
nhandlerI've been wanting to know this for a while, what is the difference between debian/control and debian/control.in?20:40
persianhandler: often control.in is used to generate control20:43
nhandlerpersia, So if I need to make a change to the control file for a package that has both debian/control and debian/control.in, I should modify debian/control.in?20:44
persiaThis is typically when there are some values in control that need to be updated regularly under some circumstances: maybe it handles automatically changing binary package names, or maintainers, or debian/ubuntu differences, or something.20:44
* norsetto would change both20:44
* norsetto did actually change both20:45
persianhandler: I usually modify both, just to be sure.  Some packages automatically generate control at packaging time, and some don't, and it's often not worth determining which type of package you happen to have.20:45
nhandlernorsetto, But if the debian/control.in generates the debian/control file, wouldn't it override any changes made to debian/control?20:45
persianhandler: Depends on whether the control.in -> control generation happens automatically or manually.20:45
norsettonhandler: as persia said, there are csases when it doesn't, and even if it does it will just overwrite it correctly20:46
nhandlerOk, I'll edit both files. I think this is is the easiest approach. Thanks persia and norsetto20:46
norsettonhandler: de nada20:46
norsettopersia: are you happy to be in the legacy list, or would you and/or jussi move to the new one?20:48
jmarsdenAnyone know what the build dependencies should be when packaging a Java app (iriverter)?  Or where this kind of info is documented?20:53
norsettojmarsden: the debian java policy should give some hints I guess20:54
jmarsdennorsetto: OK, but I think they may have changed now Ubuntu uses openjdk?  I'm fixing LP#91237 and the fix is fine, but the package won't build using pbuilder because of dependency issues for me...20:55
norsettojmarsden: the policy says : "Be sure to manage all dependencies by hand in debian/control" :-)20:56
jmarsdenHmmm, that could be more helpful :-)20:56
norsettojmarsden: we have a new jama team just been established, they surely should be able to help you, personally, I know zilch about Java20:57
norsettojmarsden: well, make it java even20:58
jmarsdenOK, how should I contact the new Java team folks?20:58
norsettojmarsden: through LP, there was an announcement in the motu m.l. recently20:58
jmarsdenOK, cool, I'll look for that.  Thanks.20:59
norsettojmarsden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam21:01
jmarsdennorsetto: Thanks, I'll check out #ubuntu-java and ask there :-)21:02
norsettojmarsden: np21:03
persiajmarsden: #ubuntu-java is the place, but it's often quiet21:23
persianorsetto: I'll check with Jussi and let you know.21:23
norsettopersia: thx21:23
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, got my request for mentor?? :)21:23
norsettoRoAkSoAx: when was it sent?21:24
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, yesterday21:24
norsettoRoAkSoAx: address?21:25
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, andreserl at ubuntu-pe.org21:25
norsettoRoAkSoAx: sorry, I mean to which address :-)21:25
RoAkSoAxi sent it to: motu-mentoring-reception at reponses.net21:26
norsettoRoAkSoAx: strange, can you check with huats?21:26
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, got a reply saying: Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. because:  Post by non-member to a members-only list21:26
norsettoRoAkSoAx: yes,thats why you should check with huats, he is the administrator and usually he is very fast in doing these21:27
RoAkSoAxok cool thanks :)21:27
nxvlwe love huats21:28
nxvl:D21:28
* RoAkSoAx slaps nxvl :D21:28
RoAkSoAxnxvl, i'm finally an engineer :D21:28
norsettoRoAkSoAx: otherwise send it to me and I'll forward it to the list (but don't tell anybody ;-))21:28
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, haha ok will do :)21:28
nxvlRoAkSoAx: contratulations ingeniebrio!21:28
norsettonxvl: ingenierito ;-)21:29
RoAkSoAxnxvl, that's right :D21:29
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, se ment *ebrio* as in drunk :D21:30
nxvlnorsetto: it's a spanish word play ingeniero -> engineer, ebrio -> drunk21:30
norsettonxvl, RoAkSoAx: yes, but being a young engineer, doesn't make you an "ingenierito"? :-)21:31
nxvlactually yes21:31
nxvlbut ingeniebrio is funnier21:32
nxvl:D21:32
norsetto:P21:32
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, and some other ppl (not me) may also take it as if you aren't taking him/her serious enough to be an engineer :D21:32
norsettoRoAkSoAx: yes, that was the subtle mocking hint21:33
RoAkSoAxlol :( xDD hahaha21:33
nxvlso21:33
nxvlnow that you are free21:33
nxvlRoAkSoAx: http://augeas.net/page/Creating_a_lens_step_by_step21:33
nxvlRoAkSoAx: you have homework21:34
RoAkSoAxnxvl, hahaha ok, will take a look xD21:35
RoAkSoAxnorsetto, just forwarded you the request :)21:36
nxvlRoAkSoAx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCentralizedServiceAdministrator/Augeas21:36
nxvlRoAkSoAx: pick one21:36
nxvlnorsetto: i will pair RoAkSoAx with emgent21:36
nxvldon't need to read his application21:36
nxvlRoAkSoAx: send it to me also21:37
nxvlnorsetto: i will take care of this one21:37
RoAkSoAxnxvl, done21:38
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taconehello, I am giving a shot to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grace/+bug/248924, I attached a debdiff and asked for sponsorship. anyone would like to review it ?21:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248924 in grace "New Xmgrace upstream release (5.1.22) available" [Undecided,In progress]21:50
gesertacone: we upload to intrepid and not unstable, so you should target intrepid instead of unstable21:53
taconegeser: omg !21:53
taconelol21:53
taconecorrecting21:53
nxvlvorian: around?21:54
NCommanderAnyone around who can sponsor a revu package?21:54
cody-somervilleNCommander, moo21:54
* NCommander feeds cody-somerville 21:54
taconegeser: corrected21:55
NCommandercody-somerville, did it (finally) finish building?21:55
cody-somervilleNCommander, Indeed. I also belt it for Hardy and installed it.21:55
NCommandercody-somerville, any reason you didn't advocate it?21:55
cody-somervilleNCommander, Of course :)21:55
* NCommander waits for for it21:56
taconegeser: that little diff is everything I need to attach for a new upstream version, right ?21:56
gesertacone: I'm currently in no condition to give a full review21:57
taconegeser: ok21:58
NCommandercody-somerville, so what was wrong?21:58
cody-somervilleNCommander, There was some mime issues and also it seemed like some icons were missing in the UI21:59
NCommandercody-somerville, which icons appears ot be missing21:59
NCommanderand what was the mime issue?21:59
cody-somervilleNCommander, in the create new project dialogue22:00
cody-somervilleNCommander, in the left pane22:00
cody-somervilleNCommander, I have a screenshot. Let me upload it.22:00
NCommanderHrm22:01
NCommanderTHe icons appears to be there for me ...22:01
nedkohow do i sign without adding entry to debian/changelog?22:02
copprocody can you look at mine again please? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk422:02
* NCommander waits from Mr cody-somerville's screenshot to upload22:04
cody-somervilleNCommander, http://cody.zapto.org/Screenshot-CodeblocksIssue.png22:06
porthoseIs this the accepted format for copyright files?   http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat  Or is there some other format I should be using?22:06
NCommanderHrm .......22:07
NCommandercody-somerville, I think I had the same problem with upstreams binaries22:07
cody-somervilleNCommander, Also, mime stuff didn't take effect right away.22:09
cody-somervilleNCommander, Although I just checked (I've rebooted since I was working on your package) and it seems to recognize it fine now.22:09
NCommandercody-somerville, I had that issue before, I honestly am not sure what the cause is22:09
NCommanderThe mime file is properly installed, and dh_installmime runs right22:10
copprois code::blocks any good?22:10
NCommanderI've never had to deal with mime files, but I'd guess that maybe the shell doesn't check for new MIME types until you reload it22:10
NCommanders/shells/Nautilus/KDE shell/etc/g.22:10
cody-somervilleNCommander, Well, right after installing, when I clicked the Code Blocks files (an xml file), it opened in Firefox who knew to open it in Code Blocks.22:11
cody-somervilleHowever, for some reason, Thunar didn't catch on until presumably after I rebooted.22:11
NCommandercody-somerville, dh_installmime is calling update-mime-database22:12
NCommandercody-somerville, it might be a glitch in xubuntu, it appears to work right here with GNOME22:13
cody-somervilleThats what I feared.22:13
norsettonxvl: do you want to take care of the other too?22:15
nxvlnorsetto: what other?22:15
* nxvl checks22:15
nxvlnorsetto: Mike?22:16
RoAkSoAxnxvl, someone with lot's of patience :P22:16
norsettonxvl: yes22:16
nxvlnorsetto: yep, i will mail dktrkranz22:17
norsettonxvl: thx22:17
NCommanderso just the icons then22:17
* NCommander plays more with the mime issue22:19
cody-somervilleNCommander, I'm wondering what one Thunar relies on - the desktop file or the mime file you install.22:21
NCommanderThe desktop files don't assiocate it with its binary files22:22
NCommanderIt's got to be the mime file22:22
NCommanderI'm chasing down the other issue22:22
cody-somervilleNCommander, Ughh...22:24
cody-somervilleNCommander, Have you looked at src/setup/mime ?22:24
NCommanderThat's the mime file I install22:24
cody-somervilleNCommander, So you just copied it to debian/ ?22:25
NCommanderyeah22:25
NCommandercody-somerville, I just installed upstream's binaries, and sitll have no icons in the Projects lists22:25
NCommandercody-somerville, the icons issue is upstream bug22:29
cody-somervilleNCommander, Okay. Thank you for confirming.22:29
NCommanderI just didn't notice it before I've used codeblocks before22:29
NCommanderIts likely they forgot to package a file in the source repo or something22:30
* NCommander downloads the Windows version to see if thats the case22:30
NCommandercody-somerville, so should I also make it available as a hardy backport?22:30
cody-somervilleNCommander, I'd worry about getting it into Intrepid first :)22:31
cody-somervilleNCommander, also, if you can patch CodeBlocks to fix the icon issue that would be great22:31
NCommandercody-somerville, I just installed WINE, and I got the MIME assiocation right off the bat22:31
cody-somervilleNCommander, in Xubuntu?22:31
NCommanderIn regular ubuntu22:31
NCommanderI'm going to install xubuntu and check22:32
NCommandercody-somerville, it's a wxWidgets bug22:32
NCommanderLet me take a screenshot of the Windows version so you can see what I mean specific22:32
copprocody-sommerville, can you look at the new version of libmk4?22:32
NCommanderbad22:33
NCommander*bah22:33
cody-somervilleThats not going to work.22:33
NCommandercody-somerville, http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotnewfromtemplavc7.png22:34
NCommanderTHat's what it looks like in Windows (sans the check screenshot window)22:34
NCommanderits a wxWidgets bug22:34
cody-somervilleAhhh... okay.22:34
NCommanderI'll file a bug against wxGTK22:34
NCommandercody-somerville, I am installing xubuntu-desktop ;-)22:35
NCommandercody-somerville, so can I get a advocate?22:36
cody-somervilleNCommander, I'm just double checking everything. I think this'll be my first advocate come to think of it.22:37
NCommanderYour good at it22:37
cody-somervilleWell, thank you.22:37
NCommanderAnd patient too ;-)22:38
NCommandernow I just need a plus +122:39
cody-somervilleAhh!! I get what you're doing :P22:40
NCommandercody-somerville, ?22:40
cody-somervilleNCommander, Trying to say nice things so I'll get you an advocate, haha ;]22:41
NCommanderI mean them ;-)22:41
NCommandercody-somerville, bug filed against wxWidgets22:43
* NCommander watches xubuntu run22:44
NCommandercody-somerville, how can I help out in regard?22:44
taconewhat's the policy for Apache DocumentRoot in Intrepid ? debian now seems to use /srv/www/, will ubuntu stick to /var/www ? where to ask about that ?22:44
Flanneltacone: -server I think has been discussing it22:44
taconeFlannel: I knew that, but I don't know the conclusion they came to :)22:45
stgrabercody-somerville: hey, I'm the (sort of) maintainer of italc for Edubuntu. It's a classroom management software that you can use to remote control computers. For now we have logout/shutdown/reboot working for gnome (gdm-signal and gnome-session-save) and KDE (dcop). I would have liked to add XFCE to the list, do you know how to logout from the command line ? (I guess shutdown and reboot using gdm-signal will work with XFCE as well)22:45
taconeoh  the channel you mean. right22:45
taconethanks22:45
FlannelMmmm, one of their recent meetings coveredit, I don't remember22:45
* NCommander waits for Cody22:48
NCommanderbrb22:51
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cody-somervillestgraber, calling xfce4-session-logout would do the same thing as clicking our logout/shutdown button.22:53
stgrabercody-somerville: great, will push that change upstream, thanks. (one-liner to add one more desktop to the list, that's great :))22:53
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cody-somervillestgraber, calling that won't automatically close the session though and what not. It'll bring up the dialogue.22:54
cody-somervilleIs that what you're looking for?22:54
stgraberno, is there some kind of --force parameter ?22:55
stgraberteachers don't usually ask their students if they want to close the session :) so I need the sessions to close when they click logout22:55
norsettonhandler: thx for answering!22:58
nhandlerNo problem norsetto. I still can't believe I sent my original reply to the wrong address22:59
norsettonhandler: don't worry, I also sent my email to two wrong addresses ;-) pls. let me know if you have special requirements, of if you are happy just to help anybody22:59
NCommanderOooh23:00
NCommanderXubuntu got sexy from 7.0423:00
nhandlernorsetto, I'm fine helping anyone. Just keep in mind, I'm still not a MOTU, and I'm still learning myself.23:00
NCommanderMy fn keys don't work anymore ...23:00
cody-somervilleNCommander, are you on Intrepid?23:00
norsettonhandler: :-)23:01
NCommandercody-somerville, hardy23:01
NCommanderBut I'm considering dist-ugprading to Intrepid23:01
* NCommander removes ubuntu-desktop23:03
NCommanderedr23:03
NCommanderWhich package needs to get nuked to kill GNOME?23:03
* NCommander looks for a proper theme23:04
NCommanderand xcfe-dusk is the current window23:05
NCommandererr, winner23:05
NCommandercody-somerville, so anything else found?23:05
LaserJockI don't need to get any acks to sync a NEW package do I? we assume if it made it into Debian it's good enough for us23:06
cody-somervilleLaserJock, Do you don't need an ack, silly :P23:07
cody-somervillegah23:07
cody-somerville"No, of course you don't need an ack, silly :P"23:08
LaserJockyou know, just checkin'23:08
LaserJocksee if you guys hadn't made some STV package voting system while I wasn't looking23:08
cody-somerville: O23:08
NCommandercody-somerville, so am I going to get advocated?23:10
cody-somervilleNCommander, I imagine we can get it uploaded this evening.23:10
NCommanderdid you advocate it on REVU so it shows 0 (1) or something like that?23:11
cody-somervilleNCommander, I'm just going to finish going over the binary packages that get produced and then I'm going to twist LaserJock's arm into giving the second advocate.23:11
NCommandersweet23:11
LaserJocklol23:11
NCommanderBut leave LaserJock's arm box alone23:11
NCommanderARMs are awesome23:12
LaserJockewww, don't touch my ARM ;-)23:12
* NCommander can't decide which xcfe skin/thme to use23:12
NCommanderwell, that works for now23:13
cody-somervillestgraber, I'm looking and I'm not really seeing anything.23:14
cody-somervilleI just asked upstream and they're 99.9% sure there isn't that sort of functionality ATM.23:14
NCommanderxubuntu is aweomse23:14
NCommanderso now what can I do to help23:14
cody-somervilleNCommander, with Xubuntu?23:14
NCommandercody-somerville, yeah23:14
cody-somervilleNCommander, well, first step would be to subscribe to the xubuntu-devel mailing list and add #xubuntu-devel to your auto-join.23:15
cody-somerville:)23:15
NCommandercody-somerville, done and done23:16
norsettonxvl: check my email23:17
* nxvl refreshes23:18
nxvlnorsetto: where did you send it? i don't have any mail from you23:23
norsettonxvl: ah yes, there is some garbage appended to the address23:24
nxvl:D23:24
nxvlevolution?23:24
NCommandercody-somerville, so my package?23:24
norsettonxvl: no, I guess I just made a cut & paste error, resent, please check it out23:24
cody-somervillestgraber, It doesn't seem like it would be very difficult to add the functionality you're looking for.23:31
cody-somervillestgraber, You can modify an xfce4 setting to disable PromptOnLogout and call that command23:32
stgraberok, I'll have a look, thanks.23:33
cody-somervillestgraber, If you require any assistance, I'll be happy to help.23:37
* NCommander now has a revu at 127.0.0.1 :-)23:41
cody-somerville:)23:44
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