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[09:10] <asac> hi
[09:14] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:15] <asac> gnomefreak: any serious regressions reported after ffox 2 sec update yet?
[09:15]  * asac synchs mail
[09:22] <gnomefreak> asac: not sure i havent looked. What regreesion did you have in mind.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> im on 3.0.1 but if you need ff2 tested if you have one ready for testing let me know where it is and ill test while im around
[09:23]  * gnomefreak just playing with abook until i get around to coding one
[09:24] <asac> gnomefreak: no wondered if you saw any incoming bugs
[09:24] <asac> dont need to test yourself
[09:24] <gnomefreak> asac: no not yet all i saw the past few days were ff3 bugs
[09:26] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[09:26] <asac> i think ffox 2 went out like 14 hours ago
[09:26] <asac> so bugs should start flowing in if there were serious issues
[09:26] <asac> (same ffox 1.5 in dapper)
[09:26] <gnomefreak> im checking email when im done with this peice of crap address book
[09:27] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.16?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> asac: you pushed a 1.5?
[09:28] <asac> to dapper yes
[09:28] <asac> as always
[09:28] <asac> 2.0.0.16 for feisty + gutsy + (hardy)
[09:30] <asac> gnomefreak: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.15~prepatch080614d-0ubuntu1
[09:30] <asac> thats the dapper update
[09:30] <gnomefreak> oh
[09:31]  * gnomefreak suffers from CRS this morning
[09:35] <gnomefreak> asac: have you heard anything about the Usplash being broken
[09:37] <asac> in intrepid? nope
[09:37] <gnomefreak> yeah
[09:37] <asac> whats CRS?
[09:37] <gnomefreak> what is with this offline mode bug. half want it changed half dont :(
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Cant Remember Shit
[09:37] <asac> lol
[09:38] <asac> gnomefreak: 3.0.1 has a feature that allows users to turn it off
[09:38] <asac> iirc
[09:38] <gnomefreak> have you read latest on that bug?
[09:38] <asac> in the end NM should be fixed though
[09:38] <asac> gnomefreak: the bug became a "all-rant-here-and-its-ok-bug"
[09:38] <asac> gnomefreak: have the bug id at hand?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> bug 191889
[09:39] <asac> upstream is mozilla bug 424626
[09:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 191889 in firefox-3.0 "[MASTER] [WORKAROUND] "Offline Mode" feature fails to detect proper online state for networks that are managed outside of network manager." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191889
[09:39] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 424626 in OS Integration "(linux) Firefox is put into offline mode on startup when NetworkManager is running but not controlling the active network interface (e.g. when using PPP)" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424626
[09:39] <asac> hmm
[09:39] <gnomefreak> please feel free to shut him/her up
[09:40] <gnomefreak> bug 240648
[09:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 240648 in linux "Ubuntu:network show incorrect wired status after S4" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240648
[09:42] <gnomefreak> asac: did 3.0.1 happen to fix https:// links
[09:44] <gnomefreak> from what it looks like in the last comment of bug there are steps to fix it at support.mozilla
[09:44] <gnomefreak> looks like its a proxy issue and if its the same as the bug last week its not a proxy issue
[09:49] <asac> gnomefreak: ok i added two workarounds to bug
[09:49] <asac> (offline bug)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> asac: ok good maybe the bug will lose some of its traffic
[09:50] <gnomefreak> asac: how big is our langpacks source?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> say for ff
[09:50] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[09:50] <asac> not sure about langpack size
[09:50] <asac> i could figure next time i have some cycles left ;)
[09:51] <gnomefreak> because i was looking at the pushes of kde-il8n-*
[09:51] <gnomefreak> they dont package them together in a source
[09:51] <asac> gnomefreak: ffox langpacks re in launguage-pack-XX and language-pack-XX-base
[09:51] <gnomefreak> source would be ~250mb if they did
[09:52] <asac> but there are much more applications translated in those langpacks so you cannot use the size of the package
[09:52] <asac> to guess oiur langpacks sized
[09:52] <asac> sizes
[09:52] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[09:53] <asac> ok ... got a meeting in a few minutes. hope it doesnt take more than an hour
[09:53] <gnomefreak> im gonna hurt cody
[09:53] <asac> but most likely it does :(
[09:53] <asac> gnomefreak: is he still ranting about flash?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> no he still hasnt added meetings to fridge
[09:53] <gnomefreak> 'ill find nixternal and have it done
[09:54] <asac> tse
[09:54] <asac> damn
[09:55]  * gnomefreak might have found someone ;)
[09:57] <gnomefreak> it looks like i have 3 editors in -ops so when someone wakes up ill have it done i hope
[09:57] <gnomefreak> what is b/i/r?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> used in "I have tested (mayavi2_2.2.0-1) on Hardy. b/i/r."
[09:59] <gnomefreak> we support peoples slow hard drives and/or memory :(
[10:03] <asac> jtv: conference!
[10:05] <gnomefreak> asac: have fun ;)
[10:38] <gnomefreak> finally done with email bugs so far. will work on new bugs for some time today. if im needed today please ping me and i will get back to you asap.
[11:09] <armin76> asac: buuuuuumb!
[11:09] <armin76> why not bumbed yet!
[11:10] <armin76> ubottu: bumb asac
[11:11] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bumb asac
[11:11] <armin76> !info firefox-3.0
[11:11] <ubottu> firefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 (hardy), package size 1038 kB, installed size 3552 kB
[11:11] <armin76> old!
[11:31] <gnomefreak> armin76: hes gone
[11:31] <gnomefreak> hes in meeting
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ill be back a bit later
[11:34] <asac> armin76: regressions
[11:34] <asac> regressions
[11:34] <asac> regressions
[11:39] <armin76> asac: lies!
[11:44] <asac> armin76: backout!
[11:53] <armin76> asac: but ppl will ask! :D
[11:54] <asac> gentoo has ppl as users? thats news! :-D
[11:55] <asac> what happened to the monkeys?
[12:05] <armin76> eh
[12:05] <armin76> i mean ubuntu users :P
[12:05] <armin76> i already bumbed on gentoo *g*
[12:24] <asac> monday
[12:24] <asac> all is there ... its just that we had issues ;)
[12:26] <asac> gnomefreak: so you processed bugs ... any complains yet about the sec update?
[13:25] <asac> [reed]: where are the official configure options nowadays in the tree?
[13:25] <[reed]> release branch in CVS for 1.9
[13:25] <[reed]> I'll find them later
[13:25] <[reed]> gotta run
[14:33] <Nukeador> Hi there
[14:34] <Nukeador> Why locales with a Firefox localized version have translations in launchpad?
[14:45] <asac> [reed]: thanks
[14:46] <asac> Nukeador: why not?
[14:46] <Nukeador> Emmm, because it's done
[14:47] <Nukeador> It has no sense
[14:48] <Nukeador> For example, there is group of people translating mozilla products for es-ES. Why should other people re-do all that hard work in launchpad?
[14:48] <Nukeador> It's crazy
[14:52] <asac> Nukeador: 1st: its not how it works
[14:52] <asac> 2nd, we dont use the translations for officially translated languages
[14:53] <asac> Nukeador: the idea is to allow our translators to help improve translations that will then get send to the upstream translation groups on a regular basis for review and inclusion
[14:53] <asac> Nukeador: and we import the upstream translations into launchpad ... so actually what you see in launchpad are the upstream translations
[14:53] <asac> does that answer your question?
[14:54] <Nukeador> Not completely
[14:54] <asac> Nukeador: are you involved in launchpad translations?
[14:54] <asac> or upstream?
[14:54] <Nukeador> No, I'm involved in es-Es Mozilla translation team
[14:54] <asac> Nukeador: ok. what you want to know?
[14:54] <Nukeador> And I have no notice about these suggestions
[14:55] <Nukeador> for inclusion
[14:55] <Nukeador> I have seen tons of translations done in launchpad for Firefox
[14:55] <asac> Nukeador: the feature to do .xpi translations is pretty new in launchpad. we are still in process to get full xpi support into it.
[14:55] <Nukeador> And I don't want people to duplicate efforts
[14:56] <asac> Nukeador: right. i agree and we are working on getting this sorted
[14:56] <Nukeador> the current contributors know this?
[14:57] <Nukeador> I mean, do they know that their translations are no applied and currently not sended to upstream?
[14:57] <asac> Nukeador: they should. but the policy and procedure is still in work too. so maybe some are not aware of all the details and the future plans
[14:58] <Nukeador> aha
[14:59] <asac> Nukeador: so what we plan to do is to provide the translation groups in launchpad with tools to properly export diffs from launchpad and forward them to you
[14:59] <Nukeador> perfect
[14:59] <Nukeador> I'll try to contact at least "es" contributors to inform them and try to collaborate in the translation.
[14:59] <asac> then you can review them and when we import your translations next time the translation groups will see your changes as "to review" so they can incorporate tem
[15:00] <asac> which basically means: "take your translations"
[15:00] <Nukeador> aha
[15:00] <Nukeador> Sounds good
[15:01] <Nukeador> Ok, thanks for the info, i have to go
[15:01] <Nukeador> see you
[15:01] <asac> Nukeador: point of all this is that we have so many translators that we want to find a way that you can get contributions from them. further we have lots of languages upstrea mdoesnt have so we also want to provide tools and features so ubuntu translation groups can become official upstream translators
[15:01] <asac> Nukeador: feel free to jump in
[15:01] <asac> i am open for discussion and new ideas
[15:01] <asac> if there are things you want to see changed once we start implementing the back-flux we certainly need your input
[15:02] <Nukeador> ok
[15:02] <Nukeador> I'll do
[15:02] <asac> thank you verfy much
[15:02] <asac> cu Nukeador
[15:02] <asac> Nukeador: would be cool to see you here
[15:02] <asac> i have questions about mozilla processes too
[15:03] <asac> so maybe join this channel more regularly ;)
[15:03] <Nukeador> #l10n channel at irc.mozilla.org it's a nice place too :P
[15:04]  * Nukeador is now away
[16:47] <AnAnt> Hello, is one of those packages sort of obsolete for hardy: libnspr4-0d , libnspr4
[17:32] <asac> bug 226699
[17:32] <ubottu> asac: Bug 226699 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/226699 is private
[17:36] <armin76> bumb
[17:36] <Volans> LOL
[18:19] <Volans> asac: remember that you have time until sunday to change the automatic alert of the meeting if there are changes in the date
[18:38] <armin76> !info hunspell
[18:38] <ubottu> hunspell (source: hunspell): spell checker and morphological analyzer (program). In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-1 (hardy), package size 74 kB, installed size 200 kB
[18:39] <armin76> asac: when are you going to add native hunspell support!
[19:39] <asac> Volans: thanks
[19:39] <asac> armin76: i bumbed everywhere
[19:39] <asac> its the stupid archive admins holding it back because of REGRESSIONS ;)
[19:40] <Volans> asac: don't mention it... have you decided when the next meeting will be held?
[19:40] <asac> armin76: anyway. lets talk about something serious ;)
[19:40] <asac> Volans: err, i think we scheduled all those meetings already, didnt we?
[19:41] <Volans> sure, but you talked about the possibility to push back the next meeting due to some delay
[19:41] <asac> Volans: let me say what i remember
[19:41] <asac> feel free to correct me if my memory is lying
[19:41] <Volans> ok
[19:42] <asac> i thought we had one meeting pushed back one meeting because of intrepid release
[19:42] <asac> is that what matches your memroy?
[19:42] <Volans> yes, but I was referring to the next one
[19:43] <Volans> but maybe I don't have understood something... if all will as we have scheduled it
[19:43] <Volans> we have nothing to do for the list alert
[19:44] <asac> the next one? isnt that this sunday?
[19:44] <asac> or next?
[19:44] <Volans> just the members alerts of we want to make it manually waiting for a solution in launchpad itself (the problem to contact all memers at once)
[19:44] <Volans> I have 03-08-2008 18:00 UTC for the next one
[19:45] <asac> Volans: ok. lets keep that date
[19:45] <Volans> ok, no problem
[19:45] <asac> i will return from firefox summit on 2nd ... so should work
[19:46] <Volans> probably i have misunderstood something in the past days ;)
[19:46] <armin76> asac: i didn't talk about bumbing :P i asked you about native hunspell
[19:46] <asac> no ... i most likely was too in-verbose
[19:46] <asac> armin76: a few lines above you said: bumb
[19:46] <asac> armin76: we will swtich in intrepid
[19:47] <Volans> I have to go now, if you can asac, read the email I have sent to you on 9 july, at about 00:50 bye bye
[19:48] <asac> Volans: will do. sorry i am still at sprint
[19:48] <asac> hope i can catch up when i return home tomorrow
[19:48] <asac> sprint == distro sprint in london
[19:48] <asac> so excuse in case i missed things or wrote incomplete things this week
[19:49] <Volans> no problem , thank you :)
[19:49] <Volans> bye
[19:49] <asac> thanks YOU! ;)
[19:49] <asac> darn
[19:51] <armin76> fail
[19:53] <asac> armin76: how would you describe our collaboration? e.g. ubuntu  vs. ubuntu?
[19:53] <asac> hehe
[19:53] <asac> s/vs. ubuntu/vs. gentoo/ ;)
[19:54] <asac> err, s/u\/vs\./u\/and /
[20:20] <armin76> woot
[22:32] <Jazzva> asac, should I wait for a review for MIR to write a request, or should I write it now?