[00:14] <hggdh> hum. Does http://answers.launchpad.net also answer questions on WIndows?
[00:16] <Flannel> hggdh: What sort of question?
[00:49] <hggdh> on how to update a Windows program -- on Windows
[00:50] <Flannel> hggdh: No, that's not what answers.lp is for.  You might try ##windows, or said programs website/support network/whatever
[00:51] <hggdh> Flannel, its not for me, I was going thru answers.lp trying to answer questions on Evo. I was just wondering if answers had opened up to any O.S.
[00:52] <hggdh> cuz there is a lot -- even being answered -- questions on Windows issues...
[00:53] <hggdh> :-)
[00:54] <stpere> I fixed my bug! :D
[00:55] <stpere> patch sent on launchpad
[00:55] <hggdh> hey, that was fast, stpere ;-)
[00:55] <stpere> it surprises me that I'm the only one affected tho
[00:56] <stpere> heh, it was a one liner
[00:56] <hggdh> perhaps others are, but have not noticed. I ran mvo's test script on my laptop, and found it was stating 0:0 updates -- and I *do* have one that I did not apply
[00:57] <hggdh> so I was also affected (but since I do not use update-manager, I did not even noticed
[00:57] <stpere> ah yes
[01:04] <Flannel> hggdh: Well, I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask
[01:16] <hggdh> Flannel, I agree, and this is why I asked -- should we answer non-Ubuntu questions, or redirect?
[01:16] <crimsun_> Ubuntu questions.
[01:18] <hggdh> :-) so answers.lp is up to some cleanup... perhaps we should -- somehow -- make it more clear to both sides (those asking, and those answering)
[01:18] <Flannel> hggdh: I think you should ask in #ubuntu-answers
[01:18] <hggdh> will do
[01:19] <hggdh> except nobody's there
[01:19] <Flannel> hggdh: Well, thats always fun
[01:20] <hggdh> ah well. Not that I am there always, anyways. I will keep on redirecting non-Ubuntu questions until someone shoots me down
[01:22] <Flannel> hggdh: maybe info@launchpad.net is your only recourse.  Seems odd at any rate.
[01:22] <Flannel> hggdh: I would think answers would be for anything hosted on LP
[01:23]  * Old_Soldier tends to agree with flannel. LP is not ubuntu centric
[01:24] <Old_Soldier> it just seems that way because LP and bzr are the tools of choice for Ubuntu devs, since canonical owns them
[01:25] <hggdh> ok, let me rephrase -- if it is hosted on LP, its OK.. But -- for example -- a SELinux question on Fedora is not
[01:26] <hggdh> ah, blast it. Whatever.
[01:26] <Old_Soldier> oh yeah hggdh in that context i agree with you but then again its only my opinion and I dont have any special say :)
[01:28] <hggdh> Old_Soldier, neither do I
[01:29] <Old_Soldier> its kind of a double edged sword though. if we blast em then we are jerks and dont give back to the linux community. If we answer them we are wasting our own resources and (possibly?) violating some policy
[01:34] <hggdh> dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. Hum. I like it
[02:00] <Roberto> Good night.. Someone can help me with a bug on Hardy with Nvidia?
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[06:40] <Jordan_U> Do the appropriate people know that many people seem to be currently hit with this recent bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340 ?
[06:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 249340 in langpack-locales "Gutsy->Hardy upgrade hangs in localedef" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:25] <Rocket2DMn> RE bug 250009 - what is the correct package for System->Quit, Shutdown ?
[07:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 250009 in gshutdown "shutdown goes to ubuntu password screen " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250009
[07:25] <gnomefreak> oh good i was gonna file that
[07:25] <gnomefreak> ubuntu for now
[07:26] <gnomefreak> its most likely gnome but ubuntu for now let desktop team decide
[07:26] <Rocket2DMn> you mean ubuntu-meta?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: it has right package
[07:26] <gnomefreak> im looking at it now
[07:26] <Rocket2DMn> gshutdown is not correct
[07:27] <Rocket2DMn> i can confirm the problem, but gshutdown is nt installed, it is a package in universe
[07:28] <Rocket2DMn> gnomefreak, ?
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: hold on
[07:32] <gnomefreak> its set to ubuntu i will ping desktop guy this weekend or monfayish
[07:33] <gnomefreak> its either gnome-menu or gdm maybe even kernel. i started seeing it after .4 releease
[07:33] <gnomefreak> same with usplash
[07:34] <Rocket2DMn> why do i still have the .2 kernel
[07:34] <Rocket2DMn> i will mark that bug as medium importance
[07:35] <Rocket2DMn> could potentially be marked as high
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: are you on intrepid?
[07:38] <Rocket2DMn> this laptop is not, the one next to me is
[07:38] <Rocket2DMn> so yes
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: on intrepid pc if  your kernal isnt lower than 2.6.26.4 than use apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: after update
[07:39] <Rocket2DMn> doh, i knew that, thanks for refreshing my memory
[07:39] <gnomefreak> np
[07:39] <Rocket2DMn> do i need to do that every time a new alpha/beta is released?
[07:39]  * gnomefreak wonders where i gonna find most of these people :(
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Rocket2DMn: you want to run update than upgrade. running dist-upgrade on devel cycle can be extreamly bad but also very good
[07:41] <gnomefreak> example if dist-upgrade wants to remove all X packages because a package is broken you know you don twant to do that
[07:41] <Rocket2DMn> yeah i was running update/upgrade before
[07:41] <gnomefreak> or run update than dist-upgrade but watch it for what it wants to do
[07:42] <Rocket2DMn> i started this testing machine befora alpha1 was released, so its an upgrade from hardy
[07:42] <gnomefreak> upgrade wont grab kerneals and some others
[07:42] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, it wouldnt install all those xserver pacakges
[07:42]  * gnomefreak always starts the day the repos open or the next day
[07:43] <Rocket2DMn> this is my first full dev cycle, i started testing dev released with hardy alpha 4 or so when i finally got my hands on the second laptop
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Do the appropriate people know that many people seem to be currently hit with this recent bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340 ?
[07:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 249340 in langpack-locales "Gutsy->Hardy upgrade hangs in localedef" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Would it be reasonable to label it hight priority?
[07:58] <Rocket2DMn> i think that would be acceptable Jordan_U
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Rocket2DMn, I can't set the priority, can you?
[07:59] <Rocket2DMn> im going to request on the report that you add some information
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Rocket2DMn, I am not actually hit by this ( not using Hardy at all right now ), I just saw a lot of activity about it in #ubuntu and ubuntuforums
[08:01] <Rocket2DMn> ok, well the users posting there need to attach the info that was requested.  I marked as High.  Once the info requested is added, I will mark the bug as Triaged
[08:02] <Jordan_U> Rocket2DMn, That was requested by me and may not be as useful as I originally thought
[08:03] <Rocket2DMn> what? the /var/log/dist-upgrade/ stuff?
[08:04] <Rocket2DMn> that is what they want for update manager problems
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Rocket2DMn, No, sorry I missed that, I just made the comment about sh -x
[08:05] <Rocket2DMn> k
[10:42] <joumetal> is bug 249724 rejected kindly and informative enough.
[10:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 249724 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] JANE - Just Another Nonlinear (Video) Editor" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249724
[11:03] <mouz> stjerm is released 4 days ago in intrepid, yet the status in bug 216603 is not 'Fix Released'. My understanding was that that status would be set automatically. Am I right? If so: what could have gone wrong?
[11:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 216603 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] stjerm" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216603
[11:04] <Hobbsee> mouz: not until it gets through the new queue, i expect.
[11:04] <mouz> Hobbsee: it is in the archives
[11:05] <Hobbsee> ah, so it is
[11:05] <Hobbsee> better mark it manually then
[11:05] <mouz> Hobbsee: ok. Am I right it should have been set automatically?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> if you had the correct syntax in the changelog entry, yes
[11:06] <mouz> i had :)
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[15:19] <hggdh> mouz, ping
[16:15] <snadge> how do i update a kernel on a wubi install?
[16:16] <snadge> the grub setup works differently
[16:21] <charlie-tca> snadge: That would be better asked on #ubuntu if you are using Ubuntu or #xubuntu if you are using Xubuntu
[16:22] <snadge> its a bug? :P
[16:22] <charlie-tca> This channel is for those working the actual bug reports in launchpad
[16:23] <charlie-tca> what is the bug number?
[16:23] <charlie-tca> :)
[16:23] <snadge> 1
[16:24] <charlie-tca> Great! Still need to ask in the right channel, I think.
[16:24] <snadge> #ubuntu gives me nightmares
[16:25] <charlie-tca> You could also try the forums or user mailing list; ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:32] <charlie-tca> snadge: here's the real place to join the mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[16:47] <charlie-tca> A little help, please. I'm wanting to confirm Bug 220987 since it in Xfce Bugzilla as Bug #3502
[16:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 220987 in thunar "(xubuntu 8.04rc amd64) When I insert my removable usb flash pen thunar doubly opens automatically the unit with two windows instead of one." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220987
[16:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 3502 in anewt "Logging module" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3502
[16:47] <charlie-tca> I don't know if it been fixed or not. I can't tell from reading the report on Xfce's website.
[16:47] <charlie-tca> How do I tell?
[16:52] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: it says fix released is that not enough for you?
[16:52] <charlie-tca> Yes, it is enough. How do _I_ find that?
[17:02] <mouz> hggdh pong. saw your posting
[17:03] <mouz> thanks btw :)
[17:04] <charlie-tca> gnomefreak: you weren't by chance looking at the 3502 that ubottu printed, I hope. The one I wanted to know
[17:04] <charlie-tca> about is on the Xfce website. I found the status, though. Thanks
[17:06] <hggdh> mouz, thank you for bringing this up. Good catch
[17:09] <mouz> hggdh y/w
[17:11] <mouz> hggdh: are there 'products' in the list of distributions?
[17:11] <mouz> is there a distinction to make?
[17:12] <hggdh> well, yes
[17:12] <hggdh> there are variants of Ubuntu, for example
[17:13] <hggdh> and other linux distros
[17:13] <hggdh> then there are the projects that are based in LP
[17:14] <hggdh> but here we only deal with Ubuntu-related bugs
[17:15] <hggdh> if you go to https://code.launchpad.net/ you will have an idea. Most of them are related to Ubuntu, but not all
[17:19] <gnomefreak> charlie-tca: nope i wasnt looking at any bug today other than what was in my email
[17:20] <charlie-tca> :)
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[21:07] <nickellery> #250000
[21:08] <nickellery> Bug 250000
[21:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 250000 in gnome-terminal "gnome-terminal not started as an "interactive shell"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250000
[21:08] <nickellery> heh, 250 000 bugs reported in Launchpad!
[21:12] <norsetto> nickellery: make it invalid! make it invalid!
[21:34] <Fallenou> lol
[21:34] <Fallenou> is that good news nickellery ? :p
[21:48] <bdrung_> bug #1000000
[21:48] <bdrung_> we didn't reach 1M :D
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[22:01] <porthose> I found a bug I can work on, is this how the work flow should go: set status to confirmed (which I have done), assign the bug to myself, fix the bug, attache debdiff to the bug and subscribe universe sponsors?
[22:04] <greg-g> I'm sure of all the steps except which team to subscribe, but that sounds right
[22:05] <porthose> greg-g: cool thx:)
[22:06] <greg-g> porthose: yep, you are correct, see this for more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue
[22:07] <porthose> greg-g: ooh yea that helped thx for the link
[22:07] <greg-g> np
[22:09] <norsetto> porthose: bug #?
[22:20] <LimCore> is it really so hard to provide 1 good media player?  or perhaps we can help to do so?
[22:20] <LimCore> VLC is riddled with bugs (i.e. fullscreen,  and lesser bug - rewind)
[22:22] <LimCore> btw, new website skin? :)
[22:24] <LimCore> some pages look like CSS is missing...?
[22:42] <porthose> norsetto: #249862
[22:42] <norsetto> bug 249862
[22:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 249862 in denemo "Error on string "Display notataion toolbar"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249862
[22:43] <norsetto> porthose: have you checked that the string is indeed wrong?
[22:43] <porthose> yes it is
[22:44] <norsetto> porthose: also in later version?
[22:44] <porthose> not sure
[22:44] <norsetto> porthose: ok, please check it, if you have a debdiff you have to subscribe u-m-s for this, the package is in main
[22:45] <porthose> ok will do
[22:46] <porthose> norsetto: would you like to look at it when I'm done?
[22:47] <norsetto> porthose: sure, but I can't sponsor it; a little tip, when you are working on a bug, please set it to in-progress, thats the best status
[22:47] <porthose> norsetto: I read that after I had already set it oops
[22:48] <norsetto> porthose: sure, no problem :-)
[22:48]  * porthose goes to work
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