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| Drk_Guy | How can i enable UDF support? | 04:38 |
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| Drk_Guy | Do i have to recompile= | 04:38 |
| Drk_Guy | ? | 04:38 |
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| tallmtt | I am having issues compiling a kernel from git - I am now compiling a kernel with only make then make modules_install - is this way risky to my system? | 16:09 |
| prahmod | can anyone tell me about the kernel in ubuntu | 19:31 |
| prahmod | i am quite new to thsi topic but interested | 19:31 |
| pwnguin | leann had a good discussion / posting during open week | 19:34 |
| prahmod | ???? | 19:34 |
| pwnguin | prahmod: I'll see if i can find a link for you | 19:34 |
| pwnguin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekhardy/UpstreamKernels | 19:35 |
| prahmod | plzz man get me one.i am very much interested.but even plz u don't mind talking to me about it | 19:35 |
| pwnguin | its more oriented towards the upstream kernel than what ubuntu ships | 19:35 |
| prahmod | ok got that.do share some useful links | 19:35 |
| prahmod | so can we go slow. | 19:35 |
| pwnguin | the wiki in the subject of this channel is also useful ;) | 19:35 |
| prahmod | well i do understand kernel but what does the upstream kernel mean?? | 19:36 |
| pwnguin | Linus Torvalds writes the linux kernel, along with his army of volunteer kernel hackers | 19:36 |
| pwnguin | they store and publish their work at kernel.org | 19:37 |
| pwnguin | this work is basically patches migrating from one person to the next and so on until torvalds approves the work | 19:37 |
| pwnguin | at which point it flows to places like ubuntu, debian, the public at large | 19:38 |
| pwnguin | kernel.org is the "upstream project" | 19:38 |
| pwnguin | sometimes ubuntu kernel developers apply patches that aren't in upstream, and that's one differnce | 19:39 |
| pwnguin | the build process is also a bit different, since ubuntu kernels are built for a wide variety of people and purposes, while people building an upstream kernel usually know exactly what they want | 19:40 |
| prahmod | ok.i am getting some idead | 19:41 |
| prahmod | idea | 19:41 |
| prahmod | and how do i get a kernel file at the kernel.org | 19:41 |
| pwnguin | before we do that, let me ask you about technical proficienceis | 19:42 |
| prahmod | ok | 19:42 |
| pwnguin | how confident are you with UNIX and C programming? | 19:42 |
| prahmod | go on | 19:42 |
| prahmod | well i am quite perfect in c and c++ | 19:43 |
| prahmod | and i have also a good knowledge in vb and java. | 19:43 |
| prahmod | talking to u truely i shifted to linux just a few week back | 19:43 |
| prahmod | so i am trying to adjust man | 19:44 |
| pwnguin | (I'm always a bit worried when people declare themselves perfectly knowledgable about a language, but for this it shall suffice) | 19:44 |
| pwnguin | hmm | 19:45 |
| prahmod | welll perfect means i have a quite good knowldge but not the whole sum | 19:45 |
| pwnguin | heh, this is an odd definition, but im not here to quiz you | 19:45 |
| prahmod | b frank man so lets get started | 19:46 |
| prahmod | will you?? | 19:46 |
| pwnguin | im thinking; | 19:46 |
| pwnguin | ok. so you're ok with programming but not quite ready to join in with the ubuntu kernel team's work | 19:47 |
| pwnguin | http://kernelnewbies.org/ looks like a good site to learn more | 19:47 |
| prahmod | no i don't mean that.well i am interested to join that group.but i think i should get prepared first | 19:48 |
| pwnguin | indeed | 19:48 |
| tallmtt | what is the harm in compiling a git kernel with "make && make modules_install" in ubuntu | 19:49 |
| pwnguin | tallmtt: im thinking you might overwrite modules for a currently installed kernel | 19:49 |
| tallmtt | That is what I'm worried about - I am getting errors using the make-kpkg (ubuntu way) | 19:50 |
| pwnguin | tallmtt: did you see the link i pasted? | 19:51 |
| tallmtt | kernelnewbies? | 19:51 |
| pwnguin | openweekhardy | 19:51 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: going there now | 19:51 |
| prahmod | pwnguin:can u give me some idea.from where should i get started so as to understand and able to write kernel in future | 19:53 |
| pwnguin | well, I think a good first step is to be able to build and run a kernel | 19:55 |
| pwnguin | theres a lot of configuration involved with the kernel, so its going to be a lot of reading | 19:55 |
| Kano | if you know how to compile extra drivers ;) | 19:55 |
| pwnguin | the next step is probably understanding how to use git to get source, diff source and get changelogs. then figuring out how the ubuntu kernel is built | 19:56 |
| prahmod | compiling extra drivers? well till now i even don't know about compiling files in linux as i am a new user | 19:56 |
| prahmod | can we go slowly | 19:57 |
| pwnguin | prahmod: if you're not familiar with UNIX programming, your best bet is to write a hello world C project, then find GNU's hello world project | 19:57 |
| pwnguin | and compare | 19:57 |
| prahmod | how can i build a kernel and run it??? | 19:57 |
| pwnguin | prahmod: the kernel newbies website has that information | 19:58 |
| pwnguin | http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelBuild | 19:58 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: Ok - I have been doing everything as is described but when typing "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers" I get a lot of errors | 19:58 |
| prahmod | so GNU is a compiler.is that? | 19:58 |
| prahmod | got that link | 19:59 |
| tallmtt | I am new to using git and only doing so because of a driver available from it for a wireless card | 19:59 |
| pwnguin | tallmtt: pastebin some of the errors maybe? | 20:00 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: sure - http://pastebin.com/m41b2b0ac | 20:02 |
| pwnguin | thats not good | 20:02 |
| pwnguin | pastebin rt2x00dev | 20:03 |
| pwnguin | or if you have a public gitweb that'd also work | 20:03 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: that is the driver I need also - the git is from rt2x00 for RaLink wireless cards | 20:03 |
| prahmod | so should i dowload git-core??? | 20:04 |
| tallmtt | There is a public gitweb - hold on | 20:04 |
| tallmtt | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ivd/rt2x00.git;a=summary | 20:04 |
| tallmtt | Is that what you wanted? | 20:04 |
| pwnguin | sure | 20:05 |
| Kano | rt2800? | 20:05 |
| pwnguin | so uh, thats a pretty busy git at the moment | 20:05 |
| pwnguin | tallmtt: which commit do you have? | 20:05 |
| tallmtt | pwdguin: I downloaded it yesterday | 20:06 |
| pwnguin | there have been 8 patches since then | 20:06 |
| tallmtt | Yeah - but the feature I need is already comitted and should be working | 20:07 |
| pwnguin | except for the part where it isnt building | 20:07 |
| tallmtt | :) | 20:07 |
| prahmod | and later i need to download the git file.am i getting right??? | 20:08 |
| pwnguin | prahmod: #kernel-newbies on irc.oftc.net can help you a lot better than I can I think | 20:08 |
| tallmtt | For background info: I have an rt61pci wireless card whose driver works in managed mode but i want master mode to use it as an AP | 20:10 |
| pwnguin | tallmtt: so how did you piece this code together? | 20:14 |
| pwnguin | just grabbed the whole thing from git? | 20:14 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: yes | 20:14 |
| pwnguin | try updaing to the latest | 20:15 |
| pwnguin | if that doesn't work, you probably want to take it upstream | 20:15 |
| tallmtt | thanks | 20:19 |
| pwnguin | did it work? | 20:21 |
| tallmtt | no it didn't | 20:43 |
| tallmtt | pwnguin: thanks again for your help, I need to go right now - will try more later | 20:45 |
| pwnguin | np | 21:28 |
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