=== jepler_ is now known as jepler === asac_ is now known as asac [04:38] How can i enable UDF support? [04:38] Do i have to recompile= [04:38] ? === thegodfather is now known as fabbione [16:09] I am having issues compiling a kernel from git - I am now compiling a kernel with only make then make modules_install - is this way risky to my system? [19:31] can anyone tell me about the kernel in ubuntu [19:31] i am quite new to thsi topic but interested [19:34] leann had a good discussion / posting during open week [19:34] ???? [19:34] prahmod: I'll see if i can find a link for you [19:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekhardy/UpstreamKernels [19:35] plzz man get me one.i am very much interested.but even plz u don't mind talking to me about it [19:35] its more oriented towards the upstream kernel than what ubuntu ships [19:35] ok got that.do share some useful links [19:35] so can we go slow. [19:35] the wiki in the subject of this channel is also useful ;) [19:36] well i do understand kernel but what does the upstream kernel mean?? [19:36] Linus Torvalds writes the linux kernel, along with his army of volunteer kernel hackers [19:37] they store and publish their work at kernel.org [19:37] this work is basically patches migrating from one person to the next and so on until torvalds approves the work [19:38] at which point it flows to places like ubuntu, debian, the public at large [19:38] kernel.org is the "upstream project" [19:39] sometimes ubuntu kernel developers apply patches that aren't in upstream, and that's one differnce [19:40] the build process is also a bit different, since ubuntu kernels are built for a wide variety of people and purposes, while people building an upstream kernel usually know exactly what they want [19:41] ok.i am getting some idead [19:41] idea [19:41] and how do i get a kernel file at the kernel.org [19:42] before we do that, let me ask you about technical proficienceis [19:42] ok [19:42] how confident are you with UNIX and C programming? [19:42] go on [19:43] well i am quite perfect in c and c++ [19:43] and i have also a good knowledge in vb and java. [19:43] talking to u truely i shifted to linux just a few week back [19:44] so i am trying to adjust man [19:44] (I'm always a bit worried when people declare themselves perfectly knowledgable about a language, but for this it shall suffice) [19:45] hmm [19:45] welll perfect means i have a quite good knowldge but not the whole sum [19:45] heh, this is an odd definition, but im not here to quiz you [19:46] b frank man so lets get started [19:46] will you?? [19:46] im thinking; [19:47] ok. so you're ok with programming but not quite ready to join in with the ubuntu kernel team's work [19:47] http://kernelnewbies.org/ looks like a good site to learn more [19:48] no i don't mean that.well i am interested to join that group.but i think i should get prepared first [19:48] indeed [19:49] what is the harm in compiling a git kernel with "make && make modules_install" in ubuntu [19:49] tallmtt: im thinking you might overwrite modules for a currently installed kernel [19:50] That is what I'm worried about - I am getting errors using the make-kpkg (ubuntu way) [19:51] tallmtt: did you see the link i pasted? [19:51] kernelnewbies? [19:51] openweekhardy [19:51] pwnguin: going there now [19:53] pwnguin:can u give me some idea.from where should i get started so as to understand and able to write kernel in future [19:55] well, I think a good first step is to be able to build and run a kernel [19:55] theres a lot of configuration involved with the kernel, so its going to be a lot of reading [19:55] if you know how to compile extra drivers ;) [19:56] the next step is probably understanding how to use git to get source, diff source and get changelogs. then figuring out how the ubuntu kernel is built [19:56] compiling extra drivers? well till now i even don't know about compiling files in linux as i am a new user [19:57] can we go slowly [19:57] prahmod: if you're not familiar with UNIX programming, your best bet is to write a hello world C project, then find GNU's hello world project [19:57] and compare [19:57] how can i build a kernel and run it??? [19:58] prahmod: the kernel newbies website has that information [19:58] http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelBuild [19:58] pwnguin: Ok - I have been doing everything as is described but when typing "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers" I get a lot of errors [19:58] so GNU is a compiler.is that? [19:59] got that link [19:59] I am new to using git and only doing so because of a driver available from it for a wireless card [20:00] tallmtt: pastebin some of the errors maybe? [20:02] pwnguin: sure - http://pastebin.com/m41b2b0ac [20:02] thats not good [20:03] pastebin rt2x00dev [20:03] or if you have a public gitweb that'd also work [20:03] pwnguin: that is the driver I need also - the git is from rt2x00 for RaLink wireless cards [20:04] so should i dowload git-core??? [20:04] There is a public gitweb - hold on [20:04] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ivd/rt2x00.git;a=summary [20:04] Is that what you wanted? [20:05] sure [20:05] rt2800? [20:05] so uh, thats a pretty busy git at the moment [20:05] tallmtt: which commit do you have? [20:06] pwdguin: I downloaded it yesterday [20:06] there have been 8 patches since then [20:07] Yeah - but the feature I need is already comitted and should be working [20:07] except for the part where it isnt building [20:07] :) [20:08] and later i need to download the git file.am i getting right??? [20:08] prahmod: #kernel-newbies on irc.oftc.net can help you a lot better than I can I think [20:10] For background info: I have an rt61pci wireless card whose driver works in managed mode but i want master mode to use it as an AP [20:14] tallmtt: so how did you piece this code together? [20:14] just grabbed the whole thing from git? [20:14] pwnguin: yes [20:15] try updaing to the latest [20:15] if that doesn't work, you probably want to take it upstream [20:19] thanks [20:21] did it work? [20:43] no it didn't [20:45] pwnguin: thanks again for your help, I need to go right now - will try more later [21:28] np