| cody-somerville | NCommander, okay, I advocated it. | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| NCommander | finally! | 00:02 |
| * cody-somerville rolls eyes. :P | 00:03 | |
| cody-somerville | The package isn't debian perfect (I wish I could review like some of the debian folk can) but I don't think we'll have too much trouble getting it into the archive and soon into Debian. | 00:03 |
| coppro | cody can you go over mine then? please? | 00:04 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, ermmm... I guess. I've probably missed my bus already anyhow., | 00:05 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, link? | 00:05 |
| coppro | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk4 | 00:05 |
| coppro | thanks | 00:05 |
| nxvl | ScottK: ping | 00:45 |
| coppro | any MOTUs around? | 00:46 |
| cody-somerville | I am. | 00:46 |
| coppro | oh | 00:47 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=libmk4 | 01:18 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, hey | 01:22 |
| nxvl | cody-somerville: hi! | 01:25 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, want to do me a favour? :) | 01:25 |
| nxvl | yup | 01:26 |
| nxvl | shot | 01:26 |
| === cprov is now known as cprov-zZz | ||
| coppro | thanks cody | 01:30 |
| nxvl | cody-somerville: yes, sure | 01:31 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, I've been assisting NCommander over the last 24 hours to get his codeblocks package on revu in shape. | 01:32 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, I was wondering if maybe you could take a look to see if you'd be able to provide a second advocate so we can get it uploaded? | 01:32 |
| nxvl | it takes an eternity to build | 01:33 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, hehe. It isn't so bad if you upload it to a PPA. | 01:33 |
| nxvl | cody-somerville: i'm not a MOTU yet | 01:33 |
| cody-somerville | nxvl, no? | 01:33 |
| nxvl | nope | 01:33 |
| cody-somerville | Sorry to bother you then. | 01:33 |
| nxvl | np | 01:33 |
| coppro | okay, upstream includes an outdated config.guess, what do I do? | 01:54 |
| nxvl | ask upstream to update it | 01:54 |
| coppro | in the meanwhile? | 01:54 |
| nxvl | try to build it | 01:55 |
| nxvl | sometime it includes some .in file or something that updates it | 01:56 |
| coppro | lintian gives an error :( | 01:57 |
| coppro | and apparently I can't just replace it | 01:57 |
| nxvl | well | 01:58 |
| nxvl | actually in that particular case i would: | 01:58 |
| nxvl | a) ask upstream to include it and wait | 01:59 |
| coppro | done | 01:59 |
| nxvl | b) patch it, and send the patch to upstream | 01:59 |
| jmarsden | I'm having a dependency issue building iriverter using pbuilder, can anyone help please? It builds fine under 8.0.4 (x86) but not in pbuilder. | 02:03 |
| coppro | how do I download the stuff necessary to pbuilder? | 02:04 |
| nxvl | apt-get? | 02:04 |
| nxvl | i don't understand the question | 02:05 |
| jmarsden | copro... stuff like?? sudo apt-get install pbuilder installs it for me. | 02:05 |
| coppro | not that, one moment | 02:05 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, just copy over the config stuff over at build time and delete it in your clean statement. | 02:05 |
| coppro | ok ty | 02:05 |
| coppro | oh, it's just pbuilder completion being stupid | 02:06 |
| coppro | nvm | 02:06 |
| coppro | hmm... error is in satisfying the build dependencies | 02:07 |
| coppro | don't have any problems with hardy... | 02:07 |
| coppro | someone name a random universe package | 02:11 |
| crimsun_ | exfalso | 02:11 |
| wgrant | Very random. | 02:12 |
| wgrant | coppro: Have you enabled universe in your pbuilder? | 02:13 |
| coppro | no | 02:13 |
| coppro | which is likely the case | 02:13 |
| coppro | *issue | 02:13 |
| coppro | jmarsden: something about depending on a virtual package I think | 02:17 |
| jmarsden | coppro: Yes, there's supposedly a table specifying how to satisfy such virtua dependencies... but man pbuilder doesn't seem to tell me where that table is... ? | 02:18 |
| coppro | it's a problem with the package source I think then | 02:19 |
| jmarsden | coppro: Well, iriverter is already packaged and so at some point I presume it must have built OK with pbuilder? I'm fixing a minor bug... bug fix is fine, but pbuilder won't build it, which irks me. | 02:22 |
| jmarsden | I wonder if the new openjdk stuff in Hardy changed something about Java package build depends? | 02:23 |
| coppro | try the --extra-packages option | 02:23 |
| jmarsden | OK, will do. | 02:23 |
| coppro | i don't know if it will really help but | 02:23 |
| coppro | its worth a try | 02:23 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, I followed up | 02:29 |
| coppro | ok ty | 02:29 |
| * NCommander inhales | 02:30 | |
| * NCommander begins hacking apart revu | 02:31 | |
| coppro | thx for the feedback | 02:31 |
| coppro | can someone help me set up CDBS please? | 02:36 |
| NCommander | coppro, what do you need to setup? | 02:37 |
| coppro | the whole thing | 02:37 |
| NCommander | Run dh_make, and select CDBS | 02:37 |
| NCommander | If its something that works via make/make install, it's pretty much done ;-) | 02:37 |
| coppro | hmm | 02:38 |
| NCommander | damn it, brb | 02:39 |
| NCommander | Would anyone like to be the second advocate of codeblocks? | 02:44 |
| coppro | I would like to be, but I'm not a MOTU :( | 02:45 |
| NCommander | heh, its appericated | 02:45 |
| * NCommander watches keys get imported from launchpad | 02:45 | |
| wgrant | NCommander: You might want to try a smaller team. | 02:46 |
| coppro | what's the format for 00list? | 02:46 |
| NCommander | wgrant, yeah, I discovered that the hard way | 02:46 |
| NCommander | coppro, its just the patch names | 02:46 |
| coppro | ok | 02:46 |
| * NCommander has it pulls the keys from my personal launchpad team | 02:47 | |
| NCommander | it appears fetch-launchpad-keys ignores the config file | 02:47 |
| wgrant | Quite possibly. | 02:47 |
| NCommander | SOmewhat anonying | 02:47 |
| NCommander | I don't like the hardcoded paths either :-/ | 02:47 |
| jmarsden | coppro: I think dpatch or whatever patch creation tool you are using should update 00list automagically? | 02:48 |
| coppro | I was converting from diff patches | 02:49 |
| jmarsden | OK. | 02:49 |
| * NCommander makes a test team | 02:50 | |
| NCommander | ahah | 02:50 |
| NCommander | Cool, I can just use my username and get that one specific key :-) | 02:51 |
| NCommander | yeah, it appears most/all of the scripts ignore the config file | 02:52 |
| NCommander | (aside from the webpage) | 02:52 |
| coppro | great | 02:56 |
| coppro | I now have a random failure | 02:56 |
| coppro | oh, I know why | 02:57 |
| coppro | insidious | 02:57 |
| coppro | is there any way to change the name my packages are signed with by default? | 03:02 |
| NCommander | coppro, define the env variables DEBNAME and DEBEMAIL | 03:02 |
| coppro | ok ty | 03:02 |
| * NCommander has a fully functional revu at 127.0.0.1 ^_^ | 03:10 | |
| coppro | debuild should always be passed --lintian-opts -i | 03:10 |
| coppro | it should be a law or something | 03:10 |
| wgrant | NCommander: Make sure you have it turn off email, though. | 03:11 |
| wgrant | NCommander: I've spammed a few people with it once when I forgot to disable things. | 03:11 |
| NCommander | Is there a handy disable switch? | 03:11 |
| wgrant | Since my changes last week, I belive that altering the email address in the config will get everything to respect it, but I'd grep to make sure. | 03:11 |
| coppro | yay lintian-complaint-free! | 03:17 |
| foxmike | Good evening! Is there an f-spot expert around? I have a little compilation/packaging problem to sort out with f-spot 0.4.4 for hardy... | 03:23 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: ping | 03:24 |
| coppro | just ask anyway | 03:25 |
| coppro | worst-case-scenario: no one can help | 03:26 |
| coppro | foxmike: ping | 03:27 |
| foxmike | Here is the thing: f-spot seems to try to install upon compilation some data-hooks under /usr/lib, and that makes the compilation crash since it is done via debuild, with user permissions. I've located where in the Makefile it happens, but I don't know how to fix such thing... | 03:27 |
| coppro | ok | 03:27 |
| coppro | one moment, installing build-deps | 03:28 |
| foxmike | ok thanks | 03:28 |
| coppro | odds are the makefile just needs to be changed to install to $(PREFIX)/usr/lib | 03:29 |
| foxmike | ok, check I'll try this... I guess $(PREFIX) will be something like (put working directory here)/f-spot-0.4.4/debian/tmp or something? (sorry for the noob question, I'm fairly new to all this...) | 03:31 |
| coppro | it should be substituted in by the build system, but I'm not sure | 03:32 |
| coppro | so you're trying to compile 0.4.4 right? | 03:32 |
| coppro | where did you get the source from? | 03:33 |
| coppro | foxmike: I need a copy of the 0.4.4 source, may I ask where you got it? | 03:35 |
| foxmike | Well, I got it from f-spot website I've copied the debian directory from 0.4.3... | 03:35 |
| coppro | ok | 03:35 |
| coppro | ty | 03:35 |
| foxmike | thanks to you!:) | 03:35 |
| foxmike | coppro: have you got it? If not, I can send you a copy... | 03:42 |
| coppro | yeah I've got it, and I think I have a better solution | 03:42 |
| foxmike | go ahead | 03:43 |
| coppro | 0.4.4 is already in intrepid | 03:43 |
| coppro | http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/f-spot/f-spot_0.4.2-1ubuntu3_i386.deb | 03:44 |
| foxmike | geez, I'm looking almost every day if it is there (I'm working on the package to learn, mostly...) and I didn't check today... anyway, I try to compile like this if it doesn't, well, I'll backport from intrepid!;) | 03:44 |
| foxmike | thanks for the link | 03:44 |
| coppro | ok | 03:44 |
| foxmike | It's still listed as f-spot0.4.2 on packages.ubuntu.com/f-spot ...:~ | 03:49 |
| foxmike | thanks again coppro, I got to go! | 03:52 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl, here! | 03:56 |
| marnanel | Is this the wrong place for asking a question about packaging even if it's not a MOTU thing, or is there a better place for that? | 03:56 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl, had to run for a while | 03:56 |
| marnanel | (it is an Ubuntu thing, but not a MOTU thing.) | 03:57 |
| coppro | you can probably ask anyway | 03:57 |
| marnanel | okay. What if I have a .deb I didn't make and I want to unpack it so I can make changes? I have lots of guides from various places telling me how to build them, but I haven't found how to unbuild them. | 03:59 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: ok | 03:59 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: stay here | 03:59 |
| nxvl | vorian: ping | 03:59 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl, k ;) | 04:00 |
| coppro | where did you get it from? | 04:00 |
| coppro | ideally, you want the source package | 04:00 |
| vorian | yo! | 04:01 |
| nxvl | ok | 04:01 |
| nxvl | vorian: this is RoAkSoAx, you mentee | 04:01 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: this is vorian, your mentor | 04:01 |
| nxvl | :D | 04:01 |
| nxvl | i hope you 2 the best on the mentoring program | 04:01 |
| vorian | howdy RoAkSoAx | 04:01 |
| nxvl | make me proud! | 04:01 |
| RoAkSoAx | vorian, master!! :D | 04:01 |
| RoAkSoAx | hahaha | 04:01 |
| RoAkSoAx | vorian, i'm ready to role xD | 04:02 |
| vorian | excellent | 04:02 |
| marnanel | coppro: ah, that makes sense. I'll get that, then. | 04:03 |
| * marnanel used to know how to do this (at least to some extent), but it's been years... | 04:03 | |
| coppro | well, the source package isn't necessarily the source code, it's the .diff.gz, .orig.gz, and .dsc | 04:03 |
| marnanel | right | 04:04 |
| * marnanel has it now. yay | 04:04 | |
| marnanel | thanks. I will try this and see how it goes... | 04:06 |
| ScottK | nxvl: Pong | 04:14 |
| nxvl | ScottK: i was looking for you to mention my application, but you already replied, so nm | 04:16 |
| nxvl | ScottK: and Thanks for the support | 04:16 |
| coppro | ScottK: you up for a REVU? | 04:22 |
| ScottK | nxvl: You're welcome, you deserve it. | 04:25 |
| LucidFox | !seen | 04:34 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen | 04:34 |
| coppro | any MOTUs willing to do a REVU? | 04:34 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| LucidFox | coppro> What package? | 04:39 |
| coppro | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk4 | 04:39 |
| coppro | thanks | 04:39 |
| * LucidFox looks | 04:42 | |
| LucidFox | coppro> commented | 04:51 |
| coppro | ty | 04:51 |
| coppro | one question | 04:51 |
| coppro | how do I get dh_install to install do a different name? | 04:51 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, you can't | 04:52 |
| coppro | that's why I used regular install for lintian-overrides | 04:52 |
| LucidFox | Ah. | 04:52 |
| LucidFox | Then it's fine. | 04:52 |
| cody-somerville | coppro, all the debhelper scripts have pretty comprehensive man pages. | 04:53 |
| coppro | yeah, that's what I thought | 04:53 |
| coppro | which is why I was pretty sure I was doing the right thing (as I understand it, intrepid has dh_lintian) | 04:53 |
| LucidFox | Isn't dh_lintian part of debhelper 7? | 04:54 |
| LucidFox | and you use 5 | 04:54 |
| coppro | I should use binary-indep for Python stuff, right? | 04:58 |
| LucidFox | binary-indep is for arch:all packages | 05:03 |
| coppro | oh, ok | 05:04 |
| coppro | wait, but Python is arch:all | 05:04 |
| LucidFox | cody-somerville, would you like the honor of sponsoring codeblocks, or should I do it? :) | 05:06 |
| coppro | ok, dumb question | 05:07 |
| coppro | how do you put a paragraph break in a long package description | 05:07 |
| LucidFox | . | 05:07 |
| cody-somerville | LucidFox, what would you do differently? | 05:07 |
| LucidFox | a space, followed by a dot | 05:07 |
| coppro | ok ty | 05:08 |
| LucidFox | for example, I'd use install instead of cp | 05:08 |
| LucidFox | like coppro just did :) | 05:08 |
| coppro | great, now dpkg-source is complaining | 05:09 |
| LucidFox | and I'd remove the upstream debian from the orig.tar.gz rather than diffing against it | 05:09 |
| coppro | apparently the +x mode on my patchfiles won't get through to the diff... that's a problem | 05:09 |
| LucidFox | coppro> Python is arch:all, but your _own_ package should be arch:all to use -indep | 05:09 |
| coppro | yeah, my source package has a python component. I just haven't gotten around to packing it | 05:10 |
| coppro | along with the docs and the tcl | 05:10 |
| LucidFox | ah | 05:10 |
| coppro | I was making sure that went into -indep, which is what I figured | 05:10 |
| LucidFox | well, if it's a binding for a C library, then the C library will typically be arch:any and the binding will be arch:all | 05:10 |
| coppro | how do I deal with 'warning: executable mode 0755 of 'debian/patches/disable-test-cleanup.dpatch' will not be represented in diff' | 05:10 |
| LucidFox | Ignore it. | 05:11 |
| coppro | ok | 05:11 |
| coppro | ok, new version on REVU | 05:14 |
| coppro | and now that it's gotta be perfect i can get to the docs :P | 05:14 |
| coppro | should -dev recommend or suggest -doc? | 05:16 |
| nxvl | jcastro: around? | 05:20 |
| cody-somerville | NCommander, congratz. | 05:22 |
| coppro | yeah, congrats | 05:23 |
| NCommander | on what? cody-somerville? | 05:23 |
| coppro | (I hope to enjoy your new package once 8.10 comes out) | 05:23 |
| cody-somerville | NCommander, I just uploaded codeblocks. | 05:23 |
| * NCommander faints from shock | 05:23 | |
| NCommander | cody-somerville, why'd you feel the package didn't mean Debian expectations? | 05:23 |
| coppro | pretty good time from "decides to make package" to package | 05:24 |
| NCommander | coppro, not really ... | 05:24 |
| cody-somerville | NCommander, I don't think I said that. | 05:24 |
| NCommander | Er, I thought someone did | 05:24 |
| NCommander | But my memory is about as reliable as a Windows Vista workstation | 05:24 |
| gnomefreak | can anyone point me in right direction to fix this issue in my intrepid chroot? next post will be error | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | E: Failed to process build dependencies | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | oops way too many lines | 05:25 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, in your chroot, type: mount -t devpts none /dev/pts | 05:26 |
| NCommander | And you probably need to manually add the Debian-exim group | 05:26 |
| NCommander | (groupadd -s Debian-exim) | 05:26 |
| gnomefreak | there is not option -s | 05:27 |
| coppro | what compression does .deb use? I thought it was .tar.gz, but that doesn't seem to be the case | 05:27 |
| gnomefreak | isnt it zip? | 05:28 |
| NCommander | cody-somerville, who was the other advocate? | 05:28 |
| coppro | LucidFoz | 05:28 |
| coppro | s/z/x/ | 05:28 |
| NCommander | sweeeet | 05:28 |
| coppro | he advocated it when I asked him to check my package | 05:28 |
| coppro | I think | 05:28 |
| NCommander | So he did it by mistake? | 05:28 |
| NCommander | ... | 05:28 |
| coppro | no | 05:28 |
| NCommander | Eh, if that what it takes ;-) | 05:29 |
| * NCommander watches Ubuntu suddenly explode in an amazing display of colors and Debian swirls | 05:29 | |
| coppro | anyone know what compression format a .deb is? | 05:30 |
| NCommander | ar archive | 05:30 |
| NCommander | use ar x to extract | 05:30 |
| NCommander | and the man page to determine how to compress | 05:30 |
| coppro | oh ok ty | 05:30 |
| coppro | ar r isn't it? | 05:30 |
| gnomefreak | what is [--gid ID] | 05:31 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, the GID of the group you are creating | 05:31 |
| gnomefreak | assuming group id | 05:31 |
| NCommander | coppro, don't know off hand | 05:31 |
| gnomefreak | how would i know what it is :( | 05:31 |
| coppro | make one up that isn't taken I guess | 05:32 |
| * NCommander loves looking at codeblocks in the archive | 05:33 | |
| NCommander | It's like | 05:33 |
| NCommander | wow | 05:33 |
| NCommander | I did that | 05:33 |
| gnomefreak | is there a way to list all gids? | 05:34 |
| NCommander | cat /etc/group | 05:34 |
| NCommander | THe first number is the gid | 05:34 |
| NCommander | Just pick an unusued one | 05:34 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 05:34 |
| NCommander | cody-somerville, so now my package is in the NEW queue, right? | 05:34 |
| cody-somerville | NCommander, correct. | 05:35 |
| NCommander | So in seven days, I'll get the email notification about REJECT(ed) ;-) | 05:35 |
| cody-somerville | NCommander, :) | 05:36 |
| gnomefreak | it seems i cant use a number that isnt used already. error message addgroup: The user `125' does not exist. | 05:36 |
| NCommander | gnomefreak, just do "groupadd -s Debian-exim" | 05:37 |
| NCommander | Or loose the -s if it doesn't work | 05:37 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: cant -s isnt an option | 05:37 |
| NCommander | then just groupadd Debian-exim | 05:37 |
| gnomefreak | ok i did and got no output im gonna say this is good and i will try dpkg again thanks | 05:38 |
| LucidFox | Will version 1.7.dfsg be considered bigger than 1.7? | 05:38 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: it worked ;) | 05:39 |
| NCommander | LucidFox, Well, if I remember how dpkg works, the string gets turned into numbers (its a char I think), and the greater sum is the higher package version. THat's why x86suse > ubuntu | 05:40 |
| NCommander | Sadly :-/ | 05:40 |
| NCommander | *char cast | 05:40 |
| NCommander | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Which-Internet.aspx - lol | 05:46 |
| coppro | ok, new confusion | 05:48 |
| coppro | upstream puts all the documentation in doc/ | 05:48 |
| * NCommander apt-get gets your confusion | 05:48 | |
| coppro | all this needs to be put in /usr/share/doc/package/html | 05:49 |
| coppro | can I specify that somehow in package.docs? | 05:49 |
| coppro | it gets seriously confused if I just try doc/* | 05:49 |
| NCommander | Can't you just list the path to the docs folder and it will recursively do the rest? | 05:51 |
| * NCommander admits its been awhile since he had such fuck | 05:51 | |
| NCommander | ... fun | 05:51 |
| NCommander | damn it | 05:51 |
| NCommander | Two thoughts crashed at extactly the same time; my pager going off, and that statement | 05:51 |
| coppro | it puts them all into the /usr/share/doc/package/ | 05:52 |
| coppro | how do I get it to go another level down | 05:52 |
| NCommander | ,,? | 05:52 |
| NCommander | er .. | 05:52 |
| coppro | I need it to be in /usr/share/doc/package/html/ | 05:52 |
| NCommander | I'd just manually create the doc package with some fancy dh_install rules then ... | 05:53 |
| coppro | or I could just cp -a doc debian/tmp/html | 05:53 |
| coppro | and put debian/tmp/html into the .docs file | 05:53 |
| NCommander | go for it | 05:53 |
| coppro | ok ill say you told me to do it lol | 05:56 |
| coppro | or you know what | 05:56 |
| coppro | 'doc' is an okay folder name | 05:56 |
| NCommander | ack | 05:58 |
| coppro | what? | 05:59 |
| NCommander | nm | 06:00 |
| * NCommander sends a rst packet into the channel | 06:00 | |
| * coppro /clears | 06:01 | |
| gnomefreak | do we know status of ruby1.8? | 06:02 |
| * NCommander throws more rst packets and an x-mas tree too | 06:03 | |
| * coppro clears multiple times | 06:04 | |
| coppro | ow | 06:04 |
| coppro | I just came up with a new warning lintian should check | 06:09 |
| coppro | if there exists a debian/patches/*.dpatch and you don't build-depend dpatch, something is probably wrong | 06:10 |
| coppro | gaah! what options are there for Section: in a doc-base file? | 06:16 |
| coppro | found it | 06:17 |
| coppro | but the examples in the doc-base docs are invalid :( | 06:17 |
| coppro | wait, no | 06:19 |
| coppro | stupid lintian | 06:19 |
| gnomefreak | its funny how chroot doesnt install apt | 06:22 |
| coppro | it doesn't? | 06:23 |
| gnomefreak | nope | 06:23 |
| coppro | you used debootstrap right? | 06:23 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 06:23 |
| coppro | well, my chroot has apt | 06:24 |
| gnomefreak | i have 5 chroots set up intrepid is only one that doesnt install apt | 06:24 |
| coppro | not really much else, but it definitely has apt | 06:24 |
| gnomefreak | root@Development:/# apt-get update | 06:24 |
| gnomefreak | bash: apt-get: command not found | 06:24 |
| coppro | O.o | 06:25 |
| coppro | try reinstalling your chroot then? | 06:25 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: 2 times | 06:25 |
| coppro | sudo chroot /chroot/intrepid | 06:25 |
| coppro | apt-get update | 06:25 |
| coppro | <bunch of crap> | 06:25 |
| gnomefreak | ending up downloading it from p.u.c moving it to /var/chroot/intrepid/home and installing it with dpkg | 06:25 |
| gnomefreak | this breakage is recent | 06:27 |
| gnomefreak | last 7 days or so | 06:27 |
| coppro | I made my chroot yesterday | 06:28 |
| coppro | or the day before, I forget | 06:28 |
| gnomefreak | i had one set up last week but i had broken it so im setting it up again. last week apt was installible | 06:31 |
| gnomefreak | -i +a | 06:31 |
| coppro | I just made another one: | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Retrieving Release | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Retrieving Packages | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Validating Packages | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Resolving dependencies of required packages... | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Resolving dependencies of base packages... | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Found additional base dependencies: libgnutls26 | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu... | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Retrieving adduser | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Validating adduser | 06:32 |
| coppro | I: Retrieving apt | 06:32 |
| coppro | so there | 06:32 |
| * coppro ducks from the spam police | 06:32 | |
| coppro | is /usr/bin in your $PATH? | 06:33 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: it is | 06:36 |
| coppro | wow something is messed up on your end then | 06:36 |
| gnomefreak | yep fixing it as we speak | 06:37 |
| gnomefreak | how in gods name am i gonna get a root/sudo dhell to install sudo | 06:39 |
| coppro | from a chroot? | 06:40 |
| coppro | or does your system not have sudo installed? | 06:40 |
| coppro | if the latter, and if root has no password (the default on ubuntu), you have to boot into single-user-mode | 06:40 |
| gnomefreak | from a chroot but sudo never got installed in the chroot | 06:41 |
| coppro | you start with a root shell in a chroot | 06:41 |
| gnomefreak | su doesnt work | 06:41 |
| coppro | doesn't need to | 06:41 |
| coppro | you are root | 06:41 |
| coppro | just apt-get install sudo | 06:41 |
| gnomefreak | (intrepid)gnomefreak@Development:~/downloads$ apt-get install sudo | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | i downloaded it but cant use sudo dpkg | 06:42 |
| coppro | you have chrooted in? | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | yes (intrepid)gnomefreak@Development:~/downloads$ | 06:42 |
| coppro | that's not right | 06:42 |
| gnomefreak | sure it is | 06:42 |
| coppro | why isn't it a root shell | 06:42 |
| coppro | chroot can only be run as root and gives a root shell | 06:43 |
| gnomefreak | none of mine are | 06:43 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: nope it runs fine without root shell | 06:43 |
| coppro | I have never heard of chroot not giving a root shell | 06:43 |
| gnomefreak | shares ~/ | 06:43 |
| coppro | ok wait close out of everything | 06:44 |
| coppro | go back to your normal shell | 06:44 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=(chroot) | 06:44 |
| coppro | and 'sudo chroot /var/chroot/intrepid' | 06:44 |
| gnomefreak | and that gives me the same tht i was in | 06:44 |
| coppro | that should be a root shell | 06:45 |
| gnomefreak | the chroot is set up already but somehow the packages didnt install | 06:45 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: no its not Setting up a dchroot (non-root) environment | 06:45 |
| coppro | oh | 06:46 |
| gnomefreak | on the link i gave you | 06:46 |
| coppro | you are supposed to install sudo first, before you mess with the other stuff | 06:46 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: yeah hence the screw up | 06:47 |
| coppro | can't you still chroot in normally? | 06:47 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: not to root | 06:47 |
| coppro | why not? | 06:48 |
| coppro | wait there might be a way | 06:48 |
| coppro | try 'sudo chroot /var/chroot/intrepid apt-get install sudo' | 06:48 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: because i set it up with nonroot | 06:48 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: i think that worked but give me a minute and ill let you know | 06:49 |
| gnomefreak | coppro: it worked thank you | 06:49 |
| coppro | manpages are your friend :) | 06:50 |
| gnomefreak | they were already downloaded but didnt get configured due to apt not being installed so i could have just dpkg --configure -a :( | 06:51 |
| gnomefreak | thats what i get for working at 2am | 06:51 |
| coppro | lol | 06:52 |
| === coppro is now known as Halph | ||
| === Halph is now known as coppro | ||
| gnomefreak | someone broke ruby1.8 so i see if i can fix it locally most likely just a respin | 06:53 |
| gnomefreak | does ruby build like python or normal package using dpkg-buildpackage | 07:09 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: It is a package, so yes. | 08:05 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: thanks now i have to figure out the error its 3:05 am atm so im not sure if im gonna continue or not i have bad feeling its *-buildpackage | 08:06 |
| wgrant | Ruby is rather temperamental. It will sometimes build. | 08:06 |
| gnomefreak | 2 | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | it may be ruby since it runs -b after i run dpkg-buildpackage keystuff -i.bzr | 08:17 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: Hi | 08:43 |
| LucidFox | slytherin> Are you sure that the TIFF and JPEG transcoders don't build with openjdk? | 08:44 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: Let me check. | 08:44 |
| LucidFox | as I mentioned in the bug, they did build for me | 08:45 |
| LucidFox | same for xmlgraphics-commons | 08:45 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: Ihaven't looked much into oenjdk but do you if com.sun.image.codec.jpeg.JPEGCodec is available in openjdk? | 08:46 |
| LucidFox | Yes, Ubuntu's openjdk-6 the contains com.sun.image.* APIs | 08:46 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: meanwhile check line 164 in build.xml | 08:47 |
| LucidFox | yes | 08:47 |
| LucidFox | and for openjdk, that check succeeds | 08:47 |
| LucidFox | javac does warn that these APIs are deprecated, but the dependent classes still build | 08:48 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: That is cool then. | 08:49 |
| slytherin | Now what we can do is add debain/ant.properties file and add properties ant.build.javac.source=1.5 and ant.build.javac.target=1.5 to the file. Also include ant-vars.mk in rules file. | 08:50 |
| slytherin | LucidFox: and whom do I bug now to clear batik from 'NEW'? | 08:58 |
| geser | slytherin: batik got uploaded? | 08:59 |
| slytherin | geser: LucidFox did. | 08:59 |
| slytherin | geser: and as he is saying it is built with openjdk without loss of cuntionality. | 09:00 |
| geser | even better then | 09:00 |
| slytherin | s/cunctionality/functionality | 09:00 |
| slytherin | Now I have to apply for motu-contributors membership. :-D | 09:01 |
| geser | slytherin: the NEW queue gets usually processed on the archive days | 09:02 |
| slytherin | geser: yes I know. I am just too eager to look into other depwait/ftbfs that depended on batik | 09:03 |
| geser | :) | 09:03 |
| gnomefreak | can someone point me to wher ei can figure out what the following error is. | 09:14 |
| gnomefreak | error is: dpkg-buildpackage: failure: dpkg-source -b ruby1.8-1.8.7.22 gave error exit status 255 | 09:14 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: It would generally indicate that the build failed somewhere. You must look for the source of failure yourself. | 09:16 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: its ruby that failed? | 09:16 |
| gnomefreak | wasnt sure if it was ruby or dpkg | 09:17 |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: read the complete build output not just the last error. You will surely find the cause. | 09:17 |
| gnomefreak | slytherin: i have read it and doing it again atm | 09:18 |
| gnomefreak | just about everything in output has to do with cdbs | 09:19 |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: can you paste the log somewhere? | 09:19 |
| gnomefreak | but as for the failure im not sure since it deapplied patches than cdbs starts | 09:19 |
| gnomefreak | slytherin: yeah | 09:19 |
| gnomefreak | http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/1076441 this maybe why ruby is broken(atleast i heard it was thats why im working on it i need it for an app | 09:21 |
| gnomefreak | was gonna say make file but it was ablet o continue | 09:22 |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: line 64 in your pastebin | 09:22 |
| gnomefreak | that wont make it fail would it? | 09:23 |
| * gnomefreak thought ive had apps sontinue but ill try it | 09:23 | |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: I don't know. But you have to fix it anyway. | 09:23 |
| wgrant | It says 'dpkg-source: error'. That looks like an error. Errors make things fail. | 09:24 |
| slytherin | :-) | 09:25 |
| gnomefreak | what do i change the maintainer to (the one that is in there now so i can add me to maintainer | 09:27 |
| gnomefreak | xbdc or something like that? | 09:28 |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: XSBC-Original-Maintainer. I suggest you use update-maintainer script | 09:28 |
| gnomefreak | didnt know there was one | 09:29 |
| slytherin | And don't add yourself as maintainer, it is either ubuntu-devel-discuss@u.c or ubuntu-motu@u.c | 09:29 |
| slytherin | gnomefreak: the script is in ubuntu-dev-tools ackage | 09:29 |
| gnomefreak | slytherin: wgrant thanks i havenever seen build fail due to no ubuntu maintianer because of the ubuntu version | 09:34 |
| gnomefreak | all this for alexandria book app | 09:35 |
| jscinoz | hey guys | 09:41 |
| jscinoz | Im having an issue with dh_shlibdeps finding a library in a different binary package built by the same source package.. debian/rules: http://pastebin.com/f5ee3112a debian/control: http://pastebin.com/f7068ed9c buildlog: http://pastebin.com/f6581008e Any ideas why dh_shlibdeps cant find the lib it needs from the same source package even though dh_makeshlibs is run before dh_shlibdeps? | 09:42 |
| laga | awesome, the buildlog doesn't load here | 09:54 |
| slytherin | same here | 09:54 |
| laga | i'd be really interested because i might be suffering from the same problem | 09:55 |
| Iulian | cody-somerville: Hi, I just uploaded a new debdiff for salasaga, hope it's ok now. | 10:03 |
| k0p | hi all | 10:11 |
| k0p | someone can review my package, please? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit | 10:12 |
| elmargol | Has someone seen a pywebkitgtk package? | 10:37 |
| Iulian | k0p: Call dh_desktop in debian/rules. It's better just to say "Please report bugs at http://trac.umitproject.org" in your manpage and don't forget to mention the authors of the package. | 10:39 |
| k0p | Iulian, about dh_desktop is it necessary? yesterday a guy in the channel told me that it is useless. do you know something about that? | 10:41 |
| k0p | Iulian, where I can set authors of the package? | 10:43 |
| jscinoz | laga, oh didnt notice, one moment ill psate again | 10:43 |
| jscinoz | laga, http://pastebin.com/f3427fb96 | 10:45 |
| k0p | Iulian, now no warnings and I fix the bug text on manpage. | 10:46 |
| k0p | lack the authors of package. | 10:46 |
| LucidFox | Blimey, slytherin left | 10:46 |
| Iulian | k0p: It seems that lintian complains about dh_desktop, not sure if it's necessary. | 10:46 |
| k0p | Iulian, yeap | 10:46 |
| k0p | and about authors | 10:46 |
| k0p | are you talk about manpage? | 10:47 |
| Iulian | k0p: Well, if someone from here told you that it's not necessary, don't add it. | 10:47 |
| Jazzva | k0p, as far as I know, only if you have a .desktop file in your package, then you should call dh_desktop. | 10:47 |
| k0p | Jazzva, yeah I have | 10:47 |
| k0p | so I'll call. | 10:47 |
| k0p | :) | 10:47 |
| k0p | dh_desktop debian/umit.desktop | 10:48 |
| k0p | something like that? | 10:48 |
| Iulian | k0p: Add the authors of the package in AUTHORS section in your man page. | 10:48 |
| k0p | Iulian, so.. replace AUTHOR by AUTHORS? | 10:48 |
| Iulian | Exactly | 10:49 |
| Jazzva | k0p, manpage for dh_desktop says it can't install .desktop files. It takes care of adding maintainer script fragments to call update-desktop-database (copied from manpage). | 10:49 |
| Iulian | k0p: If it has more than one author, yes. | 10:49 |
| k0p | Jazzva, really nice. :) | 10:49 |
| Jazzva | k0p, and if .desktop file does not contain MimeType field it will be ignored. So, if your desktop doesn't have that field, than maybe you don't need to call it :) | 10:50 |
| k0p | Iulian, nop. don't have.. | 10:50 |
| k0p | Iulian, is it authors of package or of project? | 10:50 |
| k0p | Jazzva, sure :) | 10:50 |
| Iulian | k0p: Yes, upstream authors. | 10:51 |
| k0p | ok | 10:51 |
| k0p | Iulian, and can I mantain the author of manpage? | 10:52 |
| Iulian | Yup | 10:53 |
| k0p | done | 10:54 |
| k0p | Iulian, what I can do to my package be added on ubuntu repositorys? only wait? | 10:55 |
| Iulian | k0p: You'll need two advocates from two MOTUs. | 10:58 |
| k0p | advocates? is it like a approvation? | 10:59 |
| * directhex is still waiting for sponsorship on a couple of syncs to make some packages actually work | 11:01 | |
| k0p | directhex, syncs? | 11:02 |
| directhex | syncs. as in "take debian package, place in ubuntu" | 11:03 |
| k0p | hmm sure | 11:03 |
| directhex | considering i updated the debian packages, specifically so they could easily be synced to ubuntu, it's kinda annoying | 11:04 |
| k0p | directhex, only debian package can be added on ubuntu? | 11:04 |
| directhex | k0p, no, but it's the best way | 11:04 |
| k0p | :S | 11:05 |
| directhex | it's designed straight into the ubuntu package numbering process, after all | 11:05 |
| k0p | I don't added my package in debian yet | 11:05 |
| k0p | I need to prepare debian package and send to debian-mentors | 11:05 |
| directhex | non-debian packages need to have "0ubuntu" in the version, e.g. 1.0-0ubuntu1 | 11:05 |
| k0p | sure | 11:06 |
| directhex | the idea being that if/when debian uses the package, they start at 1.0-1, which is higher-versioned | 11:06 |
| k0p | yeah | 11:07 |
| k0p | I understand | 11:07 |
| k0p | directhex, I would like that my package will be available on 8.10. But I don't have debian package in repository. Do you know that is possible? | 11:08 |
| directhex | sure. add to ubuntu, make sure you follow the correct numbering shemes & use 0ubuntuX for package versions. | 11:08 |
| k0p | yeah sure. | 11:09 |
| k0p | I would like how I can two advocates from two MOTUs | 11:09 |
| k0p | I don't know motus | 11:10 |
| directhex | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/No-Mono-by-Default - pushing at the boundaries of how much bullshit can go into one page | 11:22 |
| Iulian | That guy must be nuts. | 11:27 |
| elmargol | How about no stupid Evolution by default? :D | 11:30 |
| LucidFox | directhex> Yes, I saw that page. Some people even mistook it for official policy. | 11:39 |
| directhex | i'm busy adding my $0.02 | 11:40 |
| === bastiao_ is now known as k0p | ||
| porthose | I'm looking at the changelog of a package and it is written with a mixture of english and german, is this acceptable? | 13:10 |
| jscinoz | elmargol, but evolution is awesome. | 13:25 |
| RainCT | porthose: for Debian/Ubuntu, no | 13:47 |
| porthose | RainCT: they should be in english correct? | 13:48 |
| RainCT | porthose: Yes. Imagine what would happend if everyone would write changelog entries in their native language... | 13:50 |
| porthose | RainCT: that's what I was thinking thx:) | 13:50 |
| directhex | genius idea: put debian/changelog under the control of pofiles! put out a request for translations with every package update, to keep the changelog translated! | 13:51 |
| Iulian | Haha | 13:53 |
| CyberCod | anyone in here available to help with (what looks to me to be) a bug? | 15:03 |
| CyberCod | I can't seem to start audacious (and play a playlist) by using crontab | 15:04 |
| CyberCod | spent like 3 hours on it in #ubuntu last night | 15:04 |
| CyberCod | there seems to be some block on crontab using the display | 15:05 |
| CyberCod | even if you stipulate what it is | 15:05 |
| CyberCod | and I tried stipulating it 3 different ways. New line variable, inline variable, and audacious switch | 15:06 |
| CyberCod | the command is embedded in a script, and the script is being run | 15:09 |
| CyberCod | echos to a log file lemme know start and finish of the script | 15:09 |
| CyberCod | and 2>/blah/logfile is appended to the end of the line that calls audacious | 15:10 |
| CyberCod | output from that is "audacious: cannot open display" | 15:11 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | better join #ubuntu | 15:11 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | and I think you have to specify the display | 15:11 |
| CyberCod | tried stipulating it 3 different ways. New line variable, inline variable, and audacious switch | 15:12 |
| CyberCod | which is why this feels like a bug | 15:12 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | try: | 15:12 |
| CyberCod | none of those ways work | 15:12 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | DISPLAY=:0.0 yourapp | 15:12 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | as command in crontab | 15:12 |
| CyberCod | IN crontab? | 15:12 |
| CyberCod | so | 15:12 |
| CyberCod | DISPLAY=:0.0 /path/to/script | 15:13 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | hm.. yes. or in your script | 15:13 |
| CyberCod | tried in the script | 15:13 |
| CyberCod | will try in crontab | 15:13 |
| CyberCod | thanks for the suggestion | 15:13 |
| CyberCod | this is for the wife | 15:13 |
| CyberCod | wake to music | 15:14 |
| CyberCod | originally used mpg321 but she couldn't easly kill it | 15:14 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | hm - i would use "mplayer /media/music/wake_up.mp3" and make a big button that executes "killall mplayer" | 15:15 |
| CyberCod | mplayer doesn't rely on display? | 15:16 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | no | 15:16 |
| CyberCod | does it handle .pls playlists? | 15:16 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | probably | 15:16 |
| CyberCod | k | 15:16 |
| CyberCod | thanks | 15:16 |
| CyberCod | I tried using xmms instead and that wouldn't work either | 15:16 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | mplayer isnt graphical (at least as long as you dont watch a video in non-aalib mode) | 15:17 |
| CyberCod | someone suggested this last night right when I was giving up. I couldn't keep my eyes open any longer | 15:17 |
| Laibsch | Hi, I wonder how I can get debuild to ignore the debian/.bzr directory "pdebuild -i.bzr" does not work. Any ideas? | 15:18 |
| CyberCod | DISPLAY=:0.0 /path/to/script doesn't work | 15:24 |
| CyberCod | got output | 15:24 |
| CyberCod | No protocol specified | 15:24 |
| CyberCod | audacious: cannot open display: | 15:24 |
| CyberCod | attempting with mplayer | 15:24 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | then specify DISPLAY=:0.0 audacious in your script (alternatively) | 15:24 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | i mean, start audac* with DISPLAY=:0.0 before it | 15:25 |
| Laibsch | looks like "pdebuild --debbuildopts -i.bzr" is what I was searching for | 15:25 |
| CyberCod | mplayer didn't work, but there's more output | 15:27 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | oO(i think he's doing something wrong) | 15:28 |
| CyberCod | http://pastebin.com/d23874861 | 15:29 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | No such file or directory | 15:30 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | what do you specify in your crontab? | 15:30 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | hm | 15:30 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | XOpenDisplay() failed | 15:30 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok, show your crontab | 15:30 |
| CyberCod | yeah | 15:30 |
| CyberCod | just a sec | 15:30 |
| CyberCod | 27 9 * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 /home/fayte/MorningPlayer/morningmusic.sh | 15:32 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | and show morningmusic.sh ? | 15:32 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | s/show/your/ | 15:32 |
| CyberCod | hang on a sec... will jump in from that machine, it keeps droppin my ssh session | 15:33 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ehm | 15:33 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | a x server is running? | 15:33 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | +n | 15:34 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 15:34 |
| CyberCo1 | just a sec | 15:34 |
| CyberCo1 | mplayer -playlist /home/fayte/Desktop/Playlists/MorningMusic.pls 2> /home/fayte/MorningPlayer/MP.log | 15:34 |
| CyberCo1 | thats the line from the script | 15:35 |
| CyberCo1 | everything else has been commented out | 15:35 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok | 15:35 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | mplayer -playlist /home/fayte/Desktop/Playlists/MorningMusic.pls | 15:35 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | this works when you start it by hand? | 15:35 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m5d3fa1b1 | 15:36 |
| CyberCo1 | works just fine from nautilus and from CLI | 15:36 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok | 15:36 |
| CyberCo1 | wait | 15:36 |
| CyberCo1 | no | 15:36 |
| CyberCo1 | haven't tried it in either since changing to mplayer | 15:36 |
| CyberCo1 | but it worked fine from CLI and nautilus when it was audacious | 15:37 |
| CyberCo1 | gimme a sec, will check it agian | 15:37 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | remove the -playlist argument | 15:37 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | try it without it from CLI first I mean | 15:37 |
| CyberCo1 | its working from CLI | 15:38 |
| CyberCo1 | with -playlist option | 15:38 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok | 15:39 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | http://pastebin.com/m50ed90 | 15:40 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | does this work in cli? | 15:40 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/d8cc086d | 15:40 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | with my command? | 15:40 |
| CyberCo1 | yep | 15:41 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | try the command that works for you and mine, and then paste the _WHOLE_ prompt | 15:41 |
| CyberCo1 | no CLI output | 15:41 |
| CyberCo1 | but its playing | 15:41 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | try your command and mine, and then paste the _WHOLE_ prompt | 15:42 |
| CyberCo1 | not sure what you mean | 15:42 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | youve opened a terminal, right? | 15:43 |
| CyberCo1 | yep | 15:43 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | then open a new one and enter and cancel both commands. then copy everything you see (everything!) and paste it | 15:44 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/d22cb5347 | 15:46 |
| CyberCo1 | thats from your command | 15:46 |
| CyberCo1 | output from the log | 15:46 |
| CyberCo1 | there was no output in the terminal | 15:46 |
| CyberCo1 | Ctrl-C just went to the next line | 15:47 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok | 15:47 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | do the same without the > and 2> stuff at the end | 15:47 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 15:47 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | so that the messages appear in the terminal | 15:47 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/d1502845c | 15:48 |
| CyberCo1 | its playing | 15:49 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | also remove the > /home/blabla stuff at the end | 15:49 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 15:49 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m5151e133 | 15:50 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | it played? | 15:51 |
| CyberCo1 | yep | 15:51 |
| CyberCo1 | the "no such file or directory" bit must be referring to something internal | 15:51 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ok, fine. now put DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer -playlist /home/fayte/Desktop/Playlists/MorningMusic.pls in your crontab | 15:52 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | not the script | 15:52 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | ehm | 15:52 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | but add the log stuff | 15:52 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer -playlist /home/fayte/Desktop/Playlists/MorningMusic.pls > /home/fayte/mpl.log 2>&1 | 15:53 |
| StevenK | You know cron has a different environment to the logged in user. | 15:53 |
| StevenK | Which means you probably can't run X programs from cron | 15:53 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | well, but audio should work without x? | 15:53 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | and there's the DISPLAY var | 15:54 |
| leleobhz | tried? xhost +localhost from inside X? | 15:54 |
| StevenK | xhost +localhost is a horrid hack | 15:54 |
| StevenK | As long as the user has permissions to open the sound device, it should be fine. | 15:54 |
| leleobhz | StevenK: only to know if X is the problem :] | 15:54 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | if it runs as root he shouldnt need xhost | 15:54 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 15:54 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | IIRC | 15:54 |
| CyberCo1 | 1 min | 15:54 |
| leleobhz | hmmmm | 15:54 |
| leleobhz | Kopfgeldjaeger: correct | 15:55 |
| CyberCo1 | been trying as root crontab | 15:55 |
| leleobhz | ls -lah /dev/dsp | 15:55 |
| tacone | where do I download the nightly iso of intrepid ? | 15:55 |
| CyberCo1 | fayte@faytal:~/MorningPlayer$ ls -lah /dev/dsp | 15:55 |
| CyberCo1 | crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-07-15 22:28 /dev/dsp | 15:55 |
| CyberCo1 | time has past | 15:56 |
| leleobhz | hmmm | 15:56 |
| CyberCo1 | will check the log | 15:56 |
| leleobhz | syslog? | 15:56 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m18e4efcf | 15:57 |
| CyberCo1 | no, a log output from the command | 15:57 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | maybe try it with the user-crontab or use sth. like sudo -u fayte | 15:58 |
| CyberCo1 | is it supposed to be this hard? | 15:58 |
| CyberCo1 | have any of you tried it on your systems? is it just my install? | 15:59 |
| leleobhz | WOP: try put into crontab: echo $UID > /tmp/test | 15:59 |
| CyberCo1 | is this a bug? is there another way to do cron jobs? | 15:59 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | http://www.getdeb.net/app/AlarmClockApp | 16:00 |
| CyberCo1 | I'd have to set 10 of those to play the album :-/ | 16:01 |
| CyberCo1 | but thanks, I'll use that app on my machine I'm sure | 16:01 |
| CyberCo1 | echo $UID > /tmp/test whats that do? | 16:02 |
| CyberCo1 | I'm just not sure what the $UID is | 16:04 |
| leleobhz | CyberCo1: may be cron set the uid environment | 16:04 |
| leleobhz | so can you see the user crontab uses | 16:04 |
| CyberCo1 | ah | 16:04 |
| CyberCo1 | I get you | 16:05 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 16:05 |
| CyberCo1 | will try it | 16:05 |
| CyberCo1 | 1 min | 16:06 |
| CyberCo1 | no output | 16:07 |
| leleobhz | hmmmmm | 16:08 |
| CyberCo1 | - /tmp/test was created, but it was blank | 16:08 |
| leleobhz | CyberCo1: | 16:08 |
| leleobhz | cat /proc/self/status > /tmp/test | 16:09 |
| CyberCo1 | you want that in a crontab? | 16:11 |
| CyberCo1 | or run from term | 16:11 |
| leleobhz | yep :] | 16:11 |
| leleobhz | on cron | 16:11 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 16:11 |
| leleobhz | i think this is empty-environment proof :] | 16:11 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m6512d10d | 16:13 |
| CyberCo1 | I understand the need for the empty environment, but there's an obvious need for a scheduler with the ability to output to display | 16:15 |
| leleobhz | Uid: 1001 1001 1001 1001 | 16:16 |
| leleobhz | Gid: 1001 1001 1001 1001 | 16:16 |
| leleobhz | o.0 | 16:16 |
| leleobhz | suid?!? | 16:16 |
| CyberCo1 | lost me | 16:16 |
| CyberCo1 | I dont know what any of that means | 16:16 |
| leleobhz | well | 16:16 |
| leleobhz | if you ran that line from crontab | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | nah | 16:17 |
| CyberCo1 | it was a user's crontab | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | dont make sense | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | hmm | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | no makes sense :] | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | *now | 16:17 |
| leleobhz | well, it uses you own user to run crontab | 16:18 |
| CyberCo1 | should I do it again from root crontab? | 16:18 |
| leleobhz | you need to test this script from crontab you get the problem :] | 16:19 |
| leleobhz | CyberCo1: try create a script i some place | 16:20 |
| leleobhz | /home/cyberco/WakeupMachine.sh | 16:20 |
| CyberCo1 | and within the script ? | 16:21 |
| leleobhz | and inside tuse #!/bin/bash (newline) mplayer somethingyouwant | 16:21 |
| leleobhz | *use | 16:21 |
| CyberCo1 | that is how I've been doing it | 16:21 |
| CyberCo1 | still get display errors | 16:21 |
| CyberCo1 | even if I specify display | 16:21 |
| leleobhz | try | 16:22 |
| leleobhz | mplayer -vo null | 16:22 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 16:22 |
| * leleobhz dont see another way | 16:22 | |
| CyberCo1 | set 1 min | 16:24 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m137ba1f4 | 16:25 |
| CyberCo1 | thats what was > log | 16:26 |
| CyberCo1 | whats crazy is that this is a new problem... worked fine in feisty | 16:28 |
| leleobhz | hmmm | 16:28 |
| leleobhz | try add -v -v -v | 16:29 |
| CyberCo1 | verbose? | 16:29 |
| leleobhz | yep | 16:29 |
| CyberCo1 | keep the -vo null ? | 16:29 |
| leleobhz | keep | 16:29 |
| CyberCo1 | mplayer -v -v -v -vo null -playlist /home/fayte/Desktop/Playlists/MorningMusic.pls 2> /home/fayte/MorningPlayer/MP_.log | 16:30 |
| CyberCo1 | thats the line in the script | 16:30 |
| CyberCo1 | any changes before I cron it? | 16:30 |
| leleobhz | nop | 16:32 |
| CyberCo1 | 1.5 min | 16:32 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m693eb8b6 | 16:34 |
| leleobhz | o.0 | 16:34 |
| CyberCo1 | yeah | 16:34 |
| CyberCo1 | module unknown | 16:35 |
| CyberCo1 | wtf? | 16:35 |
| CyberCo1 | I think this is bug worthy | 16:35 |
| CyberCo1 | shouldn't be this hard to get cron to open something to display | 16:35 |
| leleobhz | well | 16:36 |
| leleobhz | another | 16:36 |
| leleobhz | remove -vo and -v's | 16:36 |
| leleobhz | add --novideo | 16:37 |
| CyberCo1 | k | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | or | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | (if dont work) | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | like manpage say | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | -novideo | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | Do not play/encode video. In many cases this will not work, use -vc null -vo null | 16:37 |
| leleobhz | instead. | 16:37 |
| CyberCo1 | 1 min | 16:39 |
| CyberCo1 | http://pastebin.com/m4dc2fcee | 16:41 |
| CyberCo1 | I think I'm going to have to go deeper down the rabbit hole | 16:41 |
| CyberCo1 | need to find out why cron is blocked from using display and how it is done | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | but right now I have to cook some breakfast | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | :) | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | thanks for trying folks | 16:42 |
| leleobhz | i think the problem isnt X | 16:42 |
| leleobhz | CyberCo1: ok | 16:42 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | or just use that applet from getdeb | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | Kopfgeldjaeger: if it will play a playlist, I'm all over it | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | but this still bugs me | 16:42 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | and maybe write a script that shuffles the song in the configuration of the applet | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | and I'm stubborn | 16:42 |
| CyberCo1 | I will get to the bottom of this | 16:43 |
| CyberCo1 | eventually | 16:43 |
| CyberCo1 | I just figured it'd be a no-brainer for the Motu's | 16:43 |
| leleobhz | CyberCo1: may you try #mplayer | 16:43 |
| CyberCo1 | its not just mplayer though | 16:44 |
| CyberCo1 | its also audacious | 16:44 |
| CyberCo1 | and xmms | 16:44 |
| CyberCo1 | I'm beginning to think cron can't run any graphical apps at all, and I'll test that theory after breakfast | 16:44 |
| Kopfgeldjaeger | CyberCo1: where are you from? | 16:44 |
| CyberCo1 | kentucky | 16:49 |
| gnomefreak | is anyone else being bit by ruby1.8: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/gtk2.so: undefined symbol: gtk_file_system_error_quark when trying to run an app? | 16:50 |
| gnomefreak | ^^ intrepid | 16:50 |
| gnomefreak | CyberCo1: it should beable to but not reall sure why you would want it to. it will end up being very slow | 16:51 |
| CyberCo1 | to have the option would be nice | 16:52 |
| CyberCo1 | not by default | 16:52 |
| gnomefreak | CyberCo1: ive never tried but i dont see why it cant | 16:53 |
| CyberCo1 | gnomefreak: I don't see why it can't either, but it's not | 17:09 |
| CyberCod | no matter how you stipulate the display, it won't take it | 17:11 |
| CyberCod | at least not in hardy | 17:11 |
| CyberCod | not a problem in feisty | 17:11 |
| CyberCod | dunno about gutsy | 17:11 |
| === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx | ||
| k0p | how make a non native package? | 17:27 |
| leleobhz | ? | 17:28 |
| leleobhz | non native? | 17:28 |
| k0p | well.. i'm in trouble because it not create a diff file | 17:29 |
| k0p | it create only a tar.gz | 17:29 |
| jpds | k0p: Rename the .tar.gz to packageName_version.orig.tar.gz | 17:29 |
| k0p | jpds, does work .. | 17:30 |
| k0p | umit (0.9.5RC2-0ubuntu1) | 17:30 |
| k0p | is 0.9.5RC2 version? | 17:30 |
| jpds | I think you should rename it to umit (0.9.5~rc2-0ubuntu1) | 17:31 |
| jpds | And call the tarball: umit_0.9.5~rc2.orig.tar.gz | 17:31 |
| k0p | jpds, it's of course temporary | 17:33 |
| k0p | but we're working on stable right now | 17:33 |
| k0p | but we can't release yet | 17:33 |
| RoAkSoAx | does anyone of you has the Debian New Maintainer's Guide in one single document? | 17:37 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: there is a PDF version of it | 17:42 |
| * nxvl seaarches | 17:42 | |
| RoAkSoAx | didn't know : | 17:44 |
| nxvl | RoAkSoAx: sudo apt-get install maint-guide | 17:44 |
| nxvl | comes with the html, pdf, txt, ps and smgl version of it | 17:45 |
| RoAkSoAx | nxvl: ok cool, i found the pdf too | 17:45 |
| coppro | ok, I have a question | 17:45 |
| coppro | what are the allowable doc-base ssections? | 17:45 |
| nxvl | as in? | 17:45 |
| coppro | on package.doc-base | 17:46 |
| coppro | there is a field called Section: | 17:46 |
| coppro | no matter what I put there, lintian complains | 17:46 |
| nxvl | Section? | 17:47 |
| nxvl | no | 17:47 |
| nxvl | the package.extension files under debian/ directory only show the path to the files which needs to install | 17:47 |
| nxvl | not any Sections | 17:47 |
| nxvl | that i remember at least | 17:47 |
| coppro | not doc-base | 17:49 |
| ScottK | Dear fellow motu-sru members: Do the reports in Bug 246301 amount to a regression that needs to be reverted? | 18:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 246301 in linux-restricted-modules-envy-2.6.24 "Update the FGLRX and NVIDIA driver to 8.6 and 173.14.09" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246301 | 18:20 |
| * ScottK is inclined to say yes, but I haven't followed it closely. | 18:20 | |
| ScottK | tseliot: What do you think? | 18:20 |
| tseliot | ScottK: there is little we can do if a driver breaks some cards and solves problems for others | 18:22 |
| coppro | ScottK: what are valid Section entries in doc-base files? | 18:23 |
| coppro | lintian complains at me! | 18:23 |
| tseliot | ScottK: other users added a comment on my blog to say that their ATI cards work well with the new driver | 18:23 |
| ScottK | tseliot: This is why I'm not sure if it's truly a regression. | 18:24 |
| ScottK | coppro: Run lintian with -I and see if it gives you enough detail to figure it out. | 18:24 |
| coppro | my experiences with fglrx can only be described as bad | 18:24 |
| coppro | -I? | 18:24 |
| ScottK | tseliot: Would you please at least comment in the bug and at least tell him how to get back to the previous version then. | 18:25 |
| ScottK | coppro: lintian -I filename.dsc or .deb | 18:25 |
| coppro | W: libmk4-doc: doc-base-unknown-section libmk4-cpp:6 Apps/Programming | 18:26 |
| ScottK | coppro: That's a capital i if it's ambiguous with small l | 18:26 |
| coppro | yeah, that's what I see | 18:26 |
| tseliot | ScottK: it's what I suggested in comment 23. I can post step-by-step instructions. What do you think? | 18:26 |
| ScottK | With -I it should spit out additional explanaition. | 18:26 |
| coppro | lower-case i gives the complet information | 18:26 |
| ScottK | tseliot: I think that's what' | 18:26 |
| ScottK | what's needed. | 18:26 |
| ScottK | coppro: Try -Ii | 18:27 |
| coppro | but that just says "the possible values are similar but different from the menu values" or something like that | 18:27 |
| tseliot | ScottK: ok, thanks for the notification | 18:27 |
| coppro | but I can't find the list of valid doc-base sections | 18:27 |
| ScottK | coppro: It should also give you a Debian standards paragraph reference. | 18:27 |
| coppro | furthermore, there are packages already installed that use this section | 18:27 |
| coppro | I've looked at that reference it says nothing | 18:27 |
| ScottK | Not sure then. | 18:27 |
| coppro | :( | 18:28 |
| coppro | I'm thinking I have to look into lintian's source package to see what it'll accept | 18:28 |
| ScottK | That's one way to do it. IIRC it's written in Perl. | 18:29 |
| coppro | having just downloaded it, I can confirm that | 18:29 |
| StevenK | Mostly Perl. Some shell is sprinkled around it. | 18:30 |
| ScottK | You might also file a bug with a patch suggesting a more useful long explanation in Debian. | 18:30 |
| ScottK | Hello StevenK. | 18:30 |
| coppro | I think the lintian check is busted, actually | 18:31 |
| ScottK | coppro: Make sure you have the lintian from Intrepid. | 18:31 |
| coppro | I don't, that could be it | 18:31 |
| * StevenK waves to ScottK | 18:32 | |
| ScottK | coppro: I've asked for it to be put in hardy-backports, but it hasn't yet. | 18:32 |
| coppro | ok, it's in | 18:32 |
| coppro | nope same error | 18:33 |
| ScottK | OK. Well at least you've tried the latest so no one can complain. | 18:33 |
| coppro | ok well it seems the section I want is Programming | 18:34 |
| coppro | yet the reference guide lintian quotes and a bunch of installed packages use Apps/Programming | 18:34 |
| coppro | does Ubuntu have different menu sections than Debian? | 18:35 |
| ScottK | Ubuntu doesn't use Debian Menu. | 18:35 |
| coppro | well doc-base sections then | 18:36 |
| coppro | (which are supposed to basically be Debian Menu sections) | 18:36 |
| ScottK | Not AFAIK. | 18:36 |
| * ScottK looks over at StevenK and wonders what he knows about it. | 18:36 | |
| * StevenK tries to figure out how to travel around Boston | 18:36 | |
| StevenK | I don't think doc-base is used much in Ubuntu. | 18:37 |
| tseliot | ScottK: was this package removed from hardy-updates? I can find it only on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/xorg-driver-fglrx-envy/1:7.1.0-8-4+2.6.24.501-501.30 | 18:38 |
| * ScottK looks. | 18:38 | |
| ScottK | tseliot: It's marked Superseded, so it was replaced by the later upload. | 18:40 |
| ScottK | I'd suggest have him wget the .deb from Launchpad and then install it using dpkg. | 18:40 |
| coppro | ok, now I have an irritating issue | 18:40 |
| tseliot | ScottK: yes, that's the only solution. Thanks again :-) | 18:41 |
| coppro | my pacakge needs separate -arch and -indep targets | 18:41 |
| coppro | is there any way to invoke the dh_install* scripts to only install for the appropriate packages/ | 18:41 |
| coppro | hello? | 18:43 |
| coppro | ScottK? | 18:43 |
| ScottK | coppro: Sorry. I need to focus on some $WORK right now. Generally you're better off asking questions of the channel in general as others may be better positioned to answer. | 18:46 |
| coppro | ok | 18:46 |
| ScottK | coppro: My short suggestion is find another similar package and use it for an example. | 18:46 |
| coppro | or I could just ingore -arch and -indep... | 18:47 |
| coppro | no wait, I was misreading policy | 18:47 |
| warp10 | Hi all | 18:55 |
| jpds | hi warp10 | 18:55 |
| warp10 | hey jpds | 18:56 |
| coppro | hey, does anyone know how to get debhelper to install only arch:all or arch:any packages? | 18:56 |
| slytherin | coppro: what do you mean exactly? | 18:58 |
| coppro | well, I'm writing a library, so the binary packages are arch:any and the docs package is arch:all | 18:58 |
| coppro | policy requires that the binary-indep target make all the architecture-indep packages | 18:58 |
| coppro | but debhelper will try to install even the binary-arch targets if binary-indep is called | 18:59 |
| slytherin | coppro: paste your rules file to pastebin | 18:59 |
| coppro | http://rafb.net/p/z0fNlW18.html | 19:01 |
| tuxmaniac | slytherin: did you try building electric? | 19:01 |
| slytherin | tuxmaniac: No. Didn't find time. Will do latest by Monday. | 19:02 |
| slytherin | coppro: Sorry, not able to figure out the problem. | 19:04 |
| * slytherin has to restart | 19:04 | |
| NCommander | morning ScottK | 19:35 |
| coppro | NCommander, I have a tricky one for you | 19:44 |
| NCommander | ok | 19:44 |
| coppro | how do I tell dh_install to only install some packages' files? | 19:44 |
| coppro | same with the rest of debhelper | 19:45 |
| coppro | I need to be able to split up the -indep and -arch files, so I need to tell debhelper to only install ome | 19:45 |
| NCommander | coppro, create package.install files, and list the files that need to go into each package | 19:48 |
| NCommander | (take a look at codeblocks to see how its done) | 19:48 |
| coppro | I know that | 19:48 |
| NCommander | ok | 19:48 |
| coppro | but how do I tell debhelper to only install files from a certain package | 19:48 |
| NCommander | I don't understand the question (sorry, I'm a litlte out of it) | 19:48 |
| coppro | well, policy says that the binary-arch target builds all the architecture-specific packages | 19:49 |
| NCommander | Right | 19:49 |
| coppro | and binary-indep makes the independent ones | 19:49 |
| NCommander | and binary-indep builds any all arch packages | 19:49 |
| coppro | but debhelper will try to install all the packages | 19:49 |
| NCommander | debhelper doesn't install the package ... your make install rule does | 19:50 |
| coppro | install isn't part of policy | 19:50 |
| NCommander | Where's your rules file | 19:50 |
| coppro | my point is that if i run binary-arch, I'm only allowed to make the arch-dependent packages | 19:50 |
| NCommander | I think I get what your saying, but I need some point of reference to work form | 19:50 |
| coppro | http://rafb.net/p/z0fNlW18.html | 19:50 |
| NCommander | Are you splitting your package into multiple ones, one of which is arch all? | 19:51 |
| coppro | no, I'm trying to package the python component into another package | 19:51 |
| coppro | so you could say yes, I guess | 19:51 |
| coppro | (and the docs are arch all as well) | 19:52 |
| NCommander | So you have one python package, and one that is arch all | 19:52 |
| coppro | currently i have 2 library packages (regular and -dev), both arch any. I also have a docs package, arch all | 19:52 |
| NCommander | Oh, I get it | 19:52 |
| NCommander | Does the documentation need to be built or somethign (i.e. pod2man, or something else) | 19:53 |
| coppro | no | 19:53 |
| coppro | but it needs to be packaged by binary-indep, as I understand it | 19:53 |
| NCommander | then build-indep is a no-op; | 19:53 |
| NCommander | Unless I'm very much mistaken | 19:53 |
| coppro | build-indep, yes | 19:53 |
| coppro | binary-indep, no | 19:53 |
| coppro | (build-indep will be used by the python component anyway) | 19:53 |
| NCommander | Oh, OH! | 19:54 |
| NCommander | Ok | 19:54 |
| NCommander | Finally I got it | 19:54 |
| NCommander | I haven't played with an arch all package in quite awhile | 19:54 |
| coppro | so my question is how do I get debhelper to not bother with the ones that aren't necessarily built? | 19:54 |
| NCommander | Give me a sec to think | 19:56 |
| NCommander | List the docs under the *package*.docs file, and move the dh_installdocs rule to binary-indep | 19:59 |
| coppro | doy! | 20:00 |
| k0p | hi all. | 20:00 |
| coppro | thanks, I'm stupid | 20:00 |
| NCommander | coppro, you may also need to copy the dh_compress, and everything below it (expect shlibdeps) to the indep file | 20:00 |
| NCommander | ; rule | 20:00 |
| coppro | yeah | 20:00 |
| NCommander | You threw me through a loop on that one | 20:01 |
| NCommander | Most packages that just move documentation do it as part of the binary-arch step | 20:01 |
| NCommander | I've seen it even if it generates an all package | 20:01 |
| k0p | packages like umit-locale-pt-pt is used on python applications? | 20:02 |
| coppro | yeah, the problem was I thought the python was arch-indep, which I just realized it isn't | 20:02 |
| coppro | so it doesn't matter | 20:02 |
| * NCommander hits coppro | 20:02 | |
| NCommander | There | 20:03 |
| NCommander | Now you'll remember ;-) | 20:03 |
| coppro | but if it was, it would be a headache to deal with | 20:03 |
| NCommander | python kinda weird because you can get both arch-dep and indep-dep python packages | 20:03 |
| coppro | (it's a python library so it has to actually get compiled) | 20:03 |
| NCommander | yeah | 20:03 |
| NCommander | pyscho is another one like that | 20:03 |
| coppro | but if, say, there was a perl module in the source package, that would be tough with debhelper | 20:05 |
| NCommander | coppro, why, it would just use build-indep for everything since the module would be arch all ... | 20:05 |
| coppro | yes, but what if there was an arch-dep package in the source package? How do you get debhelper not to explode if it finds that the -dep stuff isn't ready to install when you try and install the -indep stuff? | 20:06 |
| NCommander | coppro, you lost me | 20:10 |
| coppro | nvm I know what to do | 20:10 |
| coppro | don't have separate build-arch and build-indep targets | 20:10 |
| NCommander | coppro, they're required ;-) | 20:11 |
| NCommander | But you can alias them to build | 20:12 |
| coppro | no they aren't | 20:12 |
| coppro | they are clearly listed as optional in policy | 20:12 |
| coppro | then all you need to is, rather than call dh_builddeb at the end, use dpkg-deb yourself for the packages you want | 20:13 |
| coppro | thus, I conform to policy, even though it's a bit of a cop-out | 20:16 |
| jmarsden | REVU help wanted getting started: I uploaded a package last night using dput, but today trying to log in to it, REVU still says I don't have an account...? | 20:17 |
| jpds | jmarsden: Which package? | 20:17 |
| jmarsden | iriverter. I fixed LP #91237 | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 91237 in iriverter "java library not found" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91237 | 20:18 |
| jpds | jmarsden: Have you added yourself to https://launchpad.net/~revu-uploaders? | 20:18 |
| coppro | and asked for a key update here? | 20:18 |
| jmarsden | OK, neat. I added myself... didn't ask for a key update. Key udpate, please :-) | 20:18 |
| coppro | it should happen overnight, so try now | 20:19 |
| jpds | jmarsden: One moment please.- | 20:19 |
| jmarsden | I thought that since it let me dput it must haev already recognized my key? | 20:19 |
| coppro | try dputting again | 20:20 |
| jpds | coppro: No need. | 20:20 |
| jpds | jmarsden: I've moved your upload from the rejected packages. It should appear soon. | 20:20 |
| jmarsden | Thanks... what caused it to be rejected?? | 20:20 |
| jpds | jmarsden: Your key was not in the keyring. | 20:21 |
| jmarsden | OK. But dput doesn't tell you that at time of upload? Would be nice if it did. | 20:21 |
| StevenK | jmarsden: dput can't usually check that. | 20:21 |
| jpds | jmarsden: dput just checks if the sigature is correct. | 20:22 |
| jmarsden | OK, thanks. Makes sense. | 20:22 |
| jpds | siretart: Is the move_uploads scripts suppose to have root as owner? I cannot do: sudo -u revu1 ./move_uploads.sh | 20:24 |
| jpds | jmarsden: Et voila, your upload has been successfully processed: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iriverter | 20:28 |
| jmarsden | jpds: Thanks! Now I need people to review it :-) BTW, Would it be reasonable to file a wishlist bug against REVU suggesting that when it rejects an upload for lack of key in keyring, it emails the signer? | 20:29 |
| jpds | jmarsden: That would be an idea, the place is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/revu | 20:31 |
| jmarsden | Thanks. OK... now I have another new packager question: I ran debuild and lintian on Ubuntu 8.04 and they said the latest standards version was 3.7.3, so I updated to that. Now REVU lintian says the current number is 3.8.0 -- how do I get a "more up to date" development environment to avoid this kind of thing? | 20:32 |
| jpds | jmarsden: Current Standards-Version is 3.8.0. | 20:32 |
| jpds | And I think that the issue may be fixed by installing lintian from hardy-backports | 20:33 |
| stgraber | 1.24.1~hardy1 is in hardy-backports so using it should work fine | 20:33 |
| jmarsden | jpds: OK, will do, thanks. | 20:34 |
| stgraber | another way of testing that is to use an Intrepid chroot but that's a little more work to create and maintain | 20:34 |
| stgraber | (running Intrepid is another way but probably not the recommended one if you need a stable system) | 20:34 |
| jmarsden | stgraber: Is there a document describing hwo to set that up you can point me to? Yes, I'm not ready to run Intrepid yet! | 20:34 |
| stgraber | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot should be a good starting point | 20:36 |
| jpds | stgraber: Using http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/makechroot makes chroot creating easier. | 20:36 |
| stgraber | jpds: oh, nice | 20:37 |
| jmarsden | Thanks, I'll try it out. | 20:37 |
| * jpds personally comments out the bind mounts but they may be useful. | 20:38 | |
| jpds | evening norsetto | 20:40 |
| norsetto | hi jpds | 20:41 |
| coppro | what debhelper script is supposed to add ldconfig to postinst and postrm scripts | 20:41 |
| norsetto | coppro: dh_makeshlibs | 20:46 |
| coppro | yeah, it was my fault, I did a patch wrong and seriuosly confused it | 20:46 |
| highvoltage | norsetto: hey there | 20:47 |
| norsetto | highvoltage! | 20:47 |
| highvoltage | :) | 20:47 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: how is it mate? | 20:47 |
| highvoltage | norsetto: it's going well, I was wondering if you could answer a question I have... do merges only happen during the beginning of the development cycle, or does it sometimes happen during it as well? | 20:48 |
| highvoltage | I'm just wondering if I'll get a chance to learn how to do it during this cycle still, or if I'd have to wait for the next one. | 20:48 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: well, we can merge up until final freeze, but its more and more stricter | 20:48 |
| highvoltage | norsetto: aah | 20:49 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: right now its ok, the merge has to be justified though | 20:49 |
| highvoltage | norsetto: hmm, I see. is there a place where I can find out if there's something that needs to be merged? | 20:49 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: mon and dad are the right places | 20:50 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: well, obviously you won't know if it will be just a sync or a merge, you will have to check | 20:51 |
| emgent | norsetto: o/ | 20:52 |
| norsetto | emgent: a noi o/! | 20:52 |
| highvoltage | norsetto: how are things your side? | 20:53 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: ecticts, but keeps an old carcass like me young :-) | 20:53 |
| norsetto | highvoltage: and today I discovered that watermelon comes from south africa, man, you have paradise there | 20:54 |
| * highvoltage thought that they make watermelons everywhere :) | 20:55 | |
| norsetto | highvoltage: yeah they do, but it originates from there | 20:56 |
| emgent | norsetto: -.- | 20:56 |
| highvoltage | heh, now I'm learning food/geography in this channel too. bonus! | 20:56 |
| bdrung_ | yeah, i have filed three bugs in series with nobody reporting a bug between. | 20:56 |
| * norsetto hands over new spectacles to emgent | 20:57 | |
| coppro | I have a package which will only work with python 2.5, but any version of 2.5 will do | 20:59 |
| coppro | how do I express this in my relationship? | 20:59 |
| coppro | nvm, didn't realize python2.5 is a package :/ | 21:00 |
| bdrung_ | coppro: either let your package depend on "python2.5" or better on "python (>= 2.5)" | 21:01 |
| coppro | can't go with python 2.6 though (if and when it comes out | 21:01 |
| bdrung_ | you know that it will not work with python 2.6? | 21:02 |
| coppro | yes, it's a build-dep and the makefile has 2.5 hard-coded in | 21:06 |
| warp10 | ScottK: sorry for opening all the tasks for the mayavi2 backport, I really thought it was necessary. | 21:12 |
| norsetto | heilá warpie | 21:13 |
| warp10 | ciao norsetto, good to see you around! | 21:14 |
| * norsetto wonders how warp10 correctly guessed it was him warpie | 21:14 | |
| * norsetto thinks that medical doctors know more than the devil ... | 21:15 | |
| * warp10 guessed it because he didn't see any other *warp* in the channel | 21:16 | |
| emgent | lol | 21:17 |
| norsetto | warp10: I have a strange problem actually, whenever I drink coffee, I get a sore eye | 21:18 |
| warp10 | norsetto: well, try not drinking it :) | 21:19 |
| norsetto | warp10: ah, I discovered you! A real doctor would have immediately said "well, try taking the spoon out first" | 21:21 |
| * emgent "intrepiding little box" | 21:22 | |
| warp10 | norsetto: I just thought you take coffee without sugar, like real coffee-impassioned do :) | 21:23 |
| norsetto | warp10: you right, I do, damned, you are a REAL doctor | 21:23 |
| warp10 | norsetto: indeed! :D | 21:25 |
| jmarsden | Is anyone willing to review my first ever Ubuntu packaging attempt: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=iriverter | 21:29 |
| kaminix | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate <-- I'm trying to package a new edict version, could anyone help me? I'm not really sure how to apply this information to packaging a dictionary file. | 21:29 |
| kaminix | The current edict version is almost a year old | 21:30 |
| kaminix | Pretty please? :) | 21:33 |
| jmarsden | kaminix: I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu packaging, but I can try to help... what is the issue you are trying to solve exactly? | 21:34 |
| kaminix | Okay, so the edict file is pretty much just a long text file (japanese<->english dictionary file) in /usr/share/edict, I'm just trying to update the package but I don't know how. | 21:35 |
| jmarsden | kaminix: which step of that recipe did you get 'stuck' at? | 21:35 |
| kaminix | 3 | 21:35 |
| jmarsden | kaminix: So the issue is that the new edict file you want to package doesn't come in an upstream tarball?? | 21:36 |
| kaminix | It came with a gz file, which I've unpacked. It doesn't have it's own directory which I can cd in to. | 21:37 |
| jmarsden | If you apt-get source edict and then untar the .orig.tar.gz that gives you you'll see how the original package was back then. | 21:39 |
| jmarsden | Then you need to try and find the new edict in a similar form, I would think? | 21:39 |
| kaminix | I have the new edict, and it's just a text file by default when you untar it. | 21:40 |
| jmarsden | kaminix: So where did the packager of the current Ubuntu edict package find that orig.tar.gz file? I don't know, but finding out would help you. I suppose you could try creating such an orig.tar.gz yourself??? But I'm pretty sure that breaks the rules... | 21:42 |
| kaminix | I think the old packager must've created it himself, because on the official page they only give .gz I think. | 21:44 |
| * kaminix opens up official page again | 21:44 | |
| jmarsden | Then I'd suggest you do the same, and email the old packager asking about it. | 21:45 |
| kaminix | The original packager was Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>, should I mail the list? | 21:50 |
| kaminix | Strange. This file contains enamdict which is not installed by the edict package but kept in it's own enamdict package | 21:55 |
| kaminix | I've sent a message to the mailing list now, will I get answers or do I need to register somehow? | 22:06 |
| jmarsden | kaminix: If you're doing packaging work, I'd subscribe to that list. | 22:10 |
| kaminix | I'm subscribed now. I don't know if I'll be packaging a lot though. | 22:10 |
| kaminix | Do I want MIME digests if I use KMail? | 22:11 |
| siretart | jpds: yes. it has do be run as root in order to fix the permissions and owner of the files it moves | 22:26 |
| NCommander | I be back | 23:11 |
| Iulian | cody-somerville: It won't even build if I add the upstream's clean rule. | 23:14 |
| NCommander | So whats up world | 23:24 |
| Iulian | Well, enjoying the week-end. | 23:26 |
| === bdrung_ is now known as bdrung | ||
| k0p | is now revu slow? :S | 23:52 |
| k0p | I make dput and nothing appears yet | 23:52 |
| wgrant | kirkland: Did you upload it before XX:50? | 23:52 |
| k0p | yeap | 23:54 |
| k0p | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=umit what's last chance? | 23:55 |
| k0p | may be cache | 23:55 |
| k0p | but I think no | 23:55 |
| k0p | i'll upload again | 23:56 |
| wgrant | Don't. | 23:56 |
| wgrant | If it's not there, I'll poke the server and work out what went wrong. | 23:56 |
| wgrant | July 19 12:00... that's old. | 23:56 |
| * NCommander works out how old it is | 23:57 | |
| k0p | wgrant, ok.. but may be it's my mistake | 23:58 |
| wgrant | It's Europe/Berlin. | 23:58 |
| k0p | yeah UTC+2 | 23:58 |
| wgrant | Your upload is still sitting in the incoming dir :( | 23:58 |
| wgrant | k0p: Ah, you upload the i386.changes, not the source.changes. | 23:59 |
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