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* JontheEchidna wonders how long koffice will take to build00:22
JontheEchidna!!!100:23
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 100:23
JontheEchidnavorian: we're not actually building the panorama extension00:23
JontheEchidnavorian: http://pastebin.com/m1b42aca00:23
DaskreechHaha00:23
JontheEchidna*that's* why it ftbfs00:24
* JontheEchidna is sooo extremely lucky he actually saw that00:24
* JontheEchidna dances00:24
JontheEchidnavorian: I'll add those packages as build deps00:26
JontheEchidnaor at least the one to fix the ftbfs, I can't find half of the other ones00:36
JontheEchidnaWhee, 3% built00:36
JontheEchidnaestimated build time 6 hours :(00:38
djmazeDoes kubuntu support dual-screen with 1 screen rotated?00:41
JontheEchidnaAny kind soul with a faster PC than mine care to testbuild koffice2?00:41
Daskreechicream00:42
JontheEchidnaiCream?00:42
JontheEchidnaIs that what apple fanbois do when a new iPhone is announced?00:42
Daskreechice cream00:42
djmazeI want to replace the whole tech department from Windows to kubuntu but they use dualscreens including rotation.00:43
djmazeOr should i compile the kernel myself with the non-free nvidia drivers?00:43
JontheEchidnaI don't think you need to compile the kernel yourself if you want the proprietary drivers00:43
JontheEchidnajust install the drivers via the driver manager00:44
JontheEchidnaWell, you would if you wanted the latest beta version of the drivers00:44
djmazeMost kernels don't support the full 3D "out of the box" and use midas isntead00:44
djmazeSo i was wondering which approach would be best.00:45
vorianJontheEchidna: what kind o' system do ye have?00:49
JontheEchidnaC-C-C-Compaq Breaker!00:50
JontheEchidna2.5 GHZ Celeron00:50
JontheEchidna640 MB RAM00:50
voriangroovie00:50
JontheEchidna~5 years old00:50
vorianok, It takes an hour on my machine00:50
voriani'll build it00:50
vorianwhat did you add for build-deps?00:51
JontheEchidnaI think it really needs libxbase00:51
JontheEchidnalibgmm-dev,00:51
JontheEchidna libxbase2.0-dev,00:51
JontheEchidnathose two00:51
JontheEchidnaI couldn't find any spnov or OpenCTL stuff, and it doesn't say it won't build anything without them00:52
JontheEchidnawould you like me to send over the .dsc and diff.gz?00:52
vorianwe should look into those libs00:52
vorianno, i'll just throw them in00:53
JontheEchidnaok00:53
voriangroovie00:54
vorianit's building away00:54
JontheEchidnaOh, and what about bug 214756?00:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 214756 in koffice2 "krita-kde4 installs kplato" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21475600:54
vorianhmmm00:54
JontheEchidnado they really depend on each other?00:54
* JontheEchidna doesn't think libs would generally depend on binaries that depend on the libs00:55
JontheEchidnacircular dependency ftl00:55
vorianthat's odd00:55
vorianDepends: ${shlibs:Depends}, koffice-data-kde4 (>= ${source:Version})00:56
vorianit doesn't even suggest or recommend either of those00:56
voriankoffice-libs-kde4, that is00:57
JontheEchidnamaybe it got fixed in a recent merge/updated package?00:57
voriankoolio01:03
vorianarrgh, fail01:49
JontheEchidnaD:01:49
vorianJontheEchidna: xbase needs some care01:54
JontheEchidnaWhat kind of care?01:54
voriani'm looking01:55
vorianhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/28580/01:56
vorianthat's the failure (around 38%)01:56
JontheEchidnaupstream bug that we need to patch?01:57
* JontheEchidna isn't much for C++01:57
vorianhmm02:00
vorianiirc, keximigrate built fine w/o libxbase2.0-dev02:02
JontheEchidnaI guess we could try building w/o it then02:03
vorianbug 24953302:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 249533 in koffice2 "New upstream release of koffice2 (1.9.95.9)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24953302:03
JontheEchidna?02:04
vorianit sure did02:05
vorian-- Installing: /build/buildd/koffice2-1.9.96.0~that.is.really.1.9.95.8/debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/keximigration_driver.desktop02:05
JontheEchidnaheh02:06
JontheEchidnaI guess cmake lied to us then?02:06
voriankexi is fine02:06
vorianlibgmm-dev should be the only missing build-dep02:07
vorianwe'll see in an hour or so :)02:07
JontheEchidnaheh02:07
JontheEchidnawere there any other bugs you had in mind besides the "provide -dbg package" bug?02:07
vorianlet's take a look02:08
vorianhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice202:08
JontheEchidnaalready there ;)02:08
JontheEchidnaHmm, what's the policy on fiesty backports?02:09
vorianthere is no way this will build in feisty02:10
vorianerm02:11
JontheEchidnaThen I'll close bug 14486002:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 144860 in koffice2 "FTBFS on Feisty" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14486002:12
ScottKWhat's the issue with feisty-backports?02:19
JontheEchidnakoffice2 won't build02:19
JontheEchidnaheh, it's such an early build it's probably not worth fixing anyway02:20
ScottKSomeone should ask Riddell to remove that one.02:21
ScottKWe didn't backport other KDE4 stuff to Feisty did we?02:21
JontheEchidnaMethinks that's why it fails02:21
ScottKIt should have never been done.02:22
ScottKThere are some KDE4 issues in gutsy-backports that need cleaned up.02:22
* ScottK would be glad to sponsor uploads if someone would look into it.02:22
JontheEchidnaScottK: Like what?02:23
ScottKBug 193567 and Bug 18729802:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 193567 in gutsy-backports "koffice2 package broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19356702:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 187298 in gutsy-backports "kscan-kd4 file level conflict with kde4graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18729802:24
ScottKJontheEchidna: ^^02:24
* JontheEchidna looks02:24
JontheEchidnaSo kdebase-runtime doesn't provide the binary package kdebase-runtime-bin02:27
ScottKApparently not.02:27
* ScottK wonders off.02:27
JontheEchidnakscan looks easy enough to fix02:28
JontheEchidnaNeeds moar transitional packagde02:35
JontheEchidnaer, just a conflict I guess02:36
voriankexi built02:36
JontheEchidnayay02:38
JontheEchidnaIs there a way to add a conflict to everything in an entire source package?02:45
JontheEchidnaLike if I add a conflict to kde4graphics in the kdegraphics-kde4 metapackage, would that effectively block all binary packages in kde4graphics?02:46
ScottKJontheEchidna: No.  It needs to be based on the binary packages.02:47
* JontheEchidna thinks he needs to grab the kde4graphics source too02:48
Daskreech;-)02:48
Daskreechhow many hours to compile that?02:48
JontheEchidnano clue, heh02:49
JontheEchidnatarball is only 2.6 MB big02:49
JontheEchidnaSo every binary in kdegraphics-kde4 should conflict kde4graphics02:53
JontheEchidnaand perhaps kde4graphics-data02:54
* JontheEchidna is much happier with the current state of packaging02:56
ScottKJontheEchidna: I think for gutsy-backports they were supposed to be co-installable.02:57
ScottKBut I wasn't paying close attention, so I'm not certain.02:58
* JontheEchidna doesn't see how they could coexist without giving bugs like that one02:58
ScottKThey were supposed to install into a different directory I thought.02:59
* JontheEchidna has the source for both so he can check02:59
JontheEchidnakde4graphics install stuff to /usr/lib/kde403:02
JontheEchidnaand so does kdegraphics-kde403:02
JontheEchidnaScottK: debdiff attached to bug03:09
JontheEchidnabug 18729803:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 187298 in gutsy-backports "kscan-kd4 file level conflict with kde4graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18729803:10
vorianwell that's not fun03:23
vorianok JontheEchidna, here's where you stand with your current changes with koffice2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/28589/03:25
JontheEchidnahmm03:25
* JontheEchidna hopes it was moved to kde-oxygen-icons03:26
* JontheEchidna can't find it in his 4.0.98 kde-oxygen-icons install03:28
JontheEchidnaOh hey, they changed the filename to actions-table, I think03:29
vorianbingo03:29
* JontheEchidna goes ahead and searches for the rest of the resolutions03:32
* JontheEchidna has to go for the night03:52
voriannighty night03:53
DaskreechNight03:53
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serzholinoHi! In kde4 rc1 */KDE3 menu entries launch kde4 apps, if there is one, instead of kde3's06:56
serzholinoin beta 2 they launched kde3 versions06:56
serzholinofor example System Settings/KDE3 launches System Settings from KDE406:57
ScottK-laptopserzholino: Where there are KDE4 apps, the KDE3 ones have been replaced.06:59
ScottK-laptopSo there's no KDE3 app to launch.06:59
serzholinoso, it was done intentional in rc1 packages?06:59
serzholinoanother example. alt+f2, enter kontact07:00
serzholinokontact and kontact/KDE3 appears07:00
serzholinoclik on kontact/KDE3 and you get kde4's kontact launched07:01
ScottK-laptopBecause kdepim for KDE4 is new in 4.1, it wouldn't suprise me if there were still some issues.07:01
serzholinobut in beta2 it launched kde3's kontact07:01
ScottK-laptopDunno what to tell you.  Then intent is for the final release to have the KDE4 version only.07:04
ScottK-laptopserzholino: You might write a mail to the kubuntu-devel mail list with your findings and see what others have to say about what the plan is.07:04
serzholinoScottK-laptop: ok, thanks08:26
WubbbiJontheEchidna: are you here? I have just 1 question09:20
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Nightroseserzholino: please file a bug - the same happens with kate and konqueror09:22
Nightrosesomething is wrong09:22
Nightrosemorning btw :)09:23
serzholinoNightrose: ok, against wich package?09:23
Nightrosehmmm kubuntu-meta if noone can tell you something better09:24
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JontheEchidnaGood morning13:03
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JontheEchidnaRiddell: Looking for sponsorship for bug 24879213:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248792 in kdenetwork "Binary package knewsticker should be renamed to plasmoid-knewsticker" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24879213:59
* JontheEchidna would like to get this one in before KDE 4.1 final packaging13:59
JontheEchidnaWubbbi: Hi, your fix for kdebase-workspace got released yesterday. :-]14:00
JontheEchidnaand you had a question?14:01
* JontheEchidna will be back later14:05
WubbbiJontheEchidna: yes ... the installation had some problems. But "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f" fixed that. I dont know anymore, what that bug was. Something with "kde-workspace-data" and "kde-workspace-wallpaper" and with the Wallpaper:Blue_cure14:06
WubbbiJontheEchidna: and thanks for upload :)14:06
Wubbbione a weekend ^^14:06
WubbbiJontheEchidna: and the question was: wehre can I get the Source code of kickoff? I would like the take a look on it.14:20
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JontheEchidnaWubbbi: Thank Riddell, he uploaded it15:16
JontheEchidna;)15:17
Wubbbi^^15:17
JontheEchidnaThe source is in kdebase-workspace15:17
JontheEchidnain the plasma folder15:17
Wubbbiohhh k thank you :)15:17
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ryanakcaRiddell: I'm guessing there wouldn't be any problem if Edubuntu wanted to use our Drupal theme?16:37
ryanakcaAnybody mind reviewing my kde-style-qtcurve merge (REVU) before I upload the debdiff to LP? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kde-style-qtcurve16:44
WubbbiMe is back :D16:45
ryanakcaWelcome Back :)16:45
Wubbbi^^16:45
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WubbbiHello to every Kubuntu Developer :D18:44
Wubbbiand the others ^^18:44
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dAskreeChhaha :)/me waves19:03
dAskreeChGrrr19:03
Xand3rhey jockey-kde doesnt find on the 2.6.24-19 kernel my nvidia card, but on the 2.6.24-1620:55
Xand3rapachelogger: an idea?20:56
Xand3rapachelogger: hi btw20:56

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