[00:33] <BHSPitLappy> __mikem, I disagree
[00:34] <BHSPitLappy> I don't think radical graphical deviations from what people consider "normal" are good for mass adoption
[03:52] <Flannel> Hey guys, is there a place I can go to get a list of features that are planned for Intrepid?  (Or even just some people telling me some big ones).  We're doing a speech at a LUG in a month and they're interested in what they can look forward to.
[03:58] <LSD|Ninja> I remember seeing something somwhere about that, I can't remember where though
[04:23] <jbroome> Flannel: there may be somethign off the wiki link in the topic
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> can someone check for me what version of dovecot is in intrepid ?
[06:54] <Flannel> !info dovecot intrepid
[06:54] <Flannel> !info dovecot-common intrepid
[09:34] <nikolam> Hi.
[09:35] <nikolam> Should I post a bug about Seamonkey not newewst in Ubuntu?
[10:54] <G_009> enabling external monitor on MT3422 laptop fails. still waiting for update-manager to update me to 2.6.26-4. it would also be nicer if firestarter would automatically recognize connection type (wlan or wifi) on program start.
[10:54] <G_009> err, wlan or eth0
[10:55]  * G_009 burps
[10:58] <G_009> update-manager continues to err with 'partial upgrade', result: could not calculate upgrade .   proceeding to run apt-get instead
[11:00] <G_009> success. however, still not updated to 2.6.26-4
[11:05] <G_009> test 386 desktop is already updated so am wondering whats keeping the amd64 back
[11:05]  * G_009 
[11:09] <joaopinto> Hello, mplayer is playing the sound to the internal PC speaker, anyone else experienced this ?
[11:19] <marius___> hi. i'm trying to setup an fully encrypted sistem with Intrepid, but the guided partitioning make a too big swap, about 5*ram. any ways to fix this?
[11:20] <DistroJockey> marius___, can't use manual partitioning?
[11:21] <marius___> it seems is not working.
[11:21] <DistroJockey> in what way?
[11:23] <G_009> couldnt you resize your swap later on
[11:24] <joaopinto> marius___, and you should file a bug report about it
[11:26] <G_009> also, you mean 5gigs of swap or that you have 5 gigs of physical memory
[11:28] <marius___> i have 768 MB RAM and is makeing 5GB of swap
[11:28] <knurra> joaopinto: yes had it with amarok
[11:29] <joaopinto> I was trying with other playes now, totem works fine, amarok does have the same problem
[11:29] <knurra> joaopinto: but I think I set amarok to specifically use alsa or oss
[11:29] <knurra> then it worked
[11:29] <G_009> you should still expect to have 2gigs on swap with that small physical memory ..
[11:30] <knurra> joaopinto: maybe it's an amarok-problem
[11:30] <G_009> unless your tight for disk space
[11:31] <joaopinto> setting it to alsa does work, but I guess the default being set to the pck speaker is a bug :P
[11:31] <G_009> there is a workaround for that, joaopinto .. however i forgot the link to it
[11:32] <G_009> check the forums
[11:32] <joaopinto> manually setting the output to alsa worked
[11:32] <knurra> joaopinto: great
[11:32] <G_009> roger that
[11:33] <G_009> basically blacklisting pcsp_snd does it too..
[11:33] <knurra> G_009: seems a bit harsch :D
[11:34] <G_009> not really.. unless you have a real use for pcspeaker..
[11:34]  * G_009 shrugs
[11:38] <marius___> if i will install it using only /boot and encrypted / and keep free space for a future swap, space that will be just 2*ram not more, will this be ok? or is there any canche that install process will break if it have no swap?
[11:49] <elkbuntu> marius___, it's unlikely unless you are seriously short on ram
[13:46] <DrHalan> hey
[14:03] <DrHalan> how is the alpha so far?
[14:44] <Infecto> hi all
[14:58] <martijn81> can i request kpackagekit  to be included in intrepid?
[15:05] <martijn81> guys?
[15:15] <martijn81> oops http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/packagekit/2008-July/003282.html
[15:15] <martijn81> you were already there
[15:18] <Dedi> whats the best method to backup the current system so i could revert to hardy after intrepid?
[15:18] <joaopinto> partimage
[15:19] <Dedi> thx
[17:03] <jonpackard> Question for others testing Intrepid with virtualbox: I lost mouse integration with an xorg update.. anybody have it working? Here's what I get when I try to re-install: Detected Xorg 1.5 RCx, refusing to install the Xorg modules. We will provide
[17:03] <jonpackard> updated guest additions once Xorg 1.5.0 was released finally.
[17:38] <tnnc> Does anyone know an way to fix the vncserver where it is now broke thanks
[18:12] <hyperair__> can someone fill me in on the status of nvidia atm?
[18:13] <jonpackard> working for me.. havent updated in a few days tho
[18:14] <tnnc> Does anyone know an way to fix the vncserver where it is now broke thanks
[18:15] <hyperair__> nvidia 1xx or nvidia 96.xx?
[18:19] <G_009>                 have not being prompted to install or utilize any restricted drivers here...
[18:19] <hyperair__> meh. maybe i should consider a reinstall
[18:21] <G_009> i dont think that would help you.  it seems restricted drivers arent ready yet
[18:23] <G_009> unless you want to hack your way around it, like Jonpackard did
[18:23] <G_009> (i guess)
[18:25] <hyperair__> oh.
[18:26] <hyperair__> jonpackard: what "hack" did you use?
[18:26] <G_009> he left the room
[18:27] <joaopinto> hyperair__, have you tried one of thenvidia-glx-* versions ?
[18:28] <hyperair__> nope
[18:28] <hyperair__> but would it work?
[18:29] <hyperair__> i just saw their existence
[21:39] <lymeca> Hi, I just witched to 2.6.26-4 packages from 2.6.24 but the new kenel won't boot after GRUB ebcause
[21:39] <lymeca> PCI: Not using MMCONFIG
[21:39] <lymeca> it just hangs
[21:46] <jonpackard> ﻿lymeca: are you in virtualbox by chance?
[21:48] <lymeca> jonpackard: No
[21:49] <jonpackard> ﻿lymeca: Thanks! Just wondering.. anything after 2.6.26.2 doesn't seem to work in virtualbox unless you have AMD-V or xVT =(
[21:49] <lymeca> I have to resort to using  2.6.24-19-generic
[21:49] <lymeca> I have AMD-V I believe.
[22:24] <hmuller> So there's a v86 problem with the x86_64 version?
[23:35] <RAOF> Argh!  What's messin with X?
[23:35] <RAOF> It seems that nothing can embed windows properly.
[23:42] <askand> Will tracker be re-enabled from default in Intrepid? Anyone knows? :)