[00:21] <foxbuntu> TheOther, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-350#Displaying_X_on_the_PVR-350_video_output
[00:23] <TheOther> @foxbuntu, thanks! Will check this out.  My problem is I think that I'm running hardy, and most example configs are for earlier versions
[00:23] <foxbuntu> TheOther, the X portions should be the same
[00:25] <TheOther> hm, ok
[00:25] <TheOther> let me try again...
[00:26] <foxbuntu> joat, I dont think its documented, you can ask in #mythtv however
[00:31] <erpo> When I press s while watching TV to use the channel guide, the interface becomes very laggy. There is a delay of many seconds (perhaps 7 or 8?) between pressing the up, down, left, or right arrows and mythtv responding. CPU usage is far below maximum while this is happening. How can I begin troubleshooting this?
[00:34] <hads> Check the logs. Possibly an issue with icons or something.
[00:37] <erpo> The only thing in there that looks like it could be negative would be "Realtime priority would require SUID as root."
[00:37] <erpo> Of course, I'm assuming that a slow frontend is a frontend problem...
[00:38] <zabbadapp> i think there is a connection with the theme used, some themes feel laggier when navigating the epg ...
[00:38] <erpo> I'll try changing the theme.
[00:40] <zabbadapp> never 7-8s lags though ...
[00:41] <erpo> Actually it's more like 10 or 12. :/
[00:42] <erpo> I'm not sure if it's getting worse or I'm just measuring it more accurately.
[00:46] <erpo> Ok, I'm getting this in my backend logs: http://pastebin.com/m1b8d08bd
[00:56] <Ryuho> can you install and login via ssh and run processes in background if you install mythbuntu?
[00:57] <hads> Sure, it's just Ubuntu.
[00:58] <Ryuho> thx
[00:58] <Ryuho> wait so there's no difference in just installing ubuntu then doing sudo apt-get mythtv*?
[00:58] <Ryuho> *install
[00:59] <hads> Well sort of. You would end up with the same thing if you configured everything the same yes.
[00:59] <Ryuho> hm
[00:59] <hads> But you may need to do a bunch of configuration.
[00:59] <hads> It is all the same repository/packages though.
[01:00] <Ryuho> installing mythtv on ubuntu is still on topic for this chan right?
[01:00] <hads> Sure, I'd say so.
[01:00] <Ryuho> k thx
[01:01] <hads> erpo: Looks like there's some sort of config issue there.
[01:01] <erpo> Hmm.
[01:01] <hads> Perhaps you've setup a slave backend or something?
[01:01] <hads> 'Could not connect to server ""' looks pretty suspicious.
[01:02] <Ryuho> yeah i had that problem too
[01:02] <erpo> A show automatically started recording and I hit the "watch live TV" button. It gave me the option of watching the channel that was being recorded, which I selected. Then, I hit s to go to the program guide and it's not laggy. But there's no PiP window.
[01:02] <erpo> Ryuho: What was your issue?
[01:02] <Ryuho> mysql and the backen had trouble connecting to it's self
[01:02] <Ryuho> backend
[01:02] <Ryuho> i just uninstalled everything mythtv*
[01:03] <Ryuho> but i'll try again once i get the chance
[01:03] <erpo> Ugh.
[01:03] <erpo> Mythtv needs to be more maintenance free, like an appliance. :/
[01:05] <acloseX> anyone know if MythBuntu installs Compiz or Beryl by default?
[01:05] <erpo> Beryl is no more.
[01:05] <acloseX> k, guess it ain't that one :)
[01:06] <acloseX> Compiz?
[01:06] <hads> erpo: It is like an appliance.
[01:06] <erpo> acloseX: Compiz is not installed on my mythbuntu machine.
[01:06] <erpo> hads: I respectfully disagree.
[01:06] <acloseX> thx :)
[01:07] <erpo> acloseX: np.
[01:07] <acloseX> yeah, it's not like  toaster :)
[01:07] <hads> erpo: You're welcome to.
[01:07] <acloseX> that just works ;)
[01:07] <erpo> acloseX: Now that's not true. My mythtv box can make toast.
[01:08] <erpo> acloseX: Reliably, regardless of whether the software is working.
[01:08] <hads> I'm sure patches would be welcome for your issues.
[01:09] <acloseX> erpo, maybe you'll have some sage advice for me :)
[01:09] <erpo> acloseX: Take of the case and put the bread on the CPU heat sink.
[01:09] <erpo> s/of/off/
[01:09] <acloseX> i'm struggling with a new install where shows will be recorded but i can't play them
[01:10] <acloseX> i'm recording with an HDHR
[01:10] <acloseX> and even if they were x.264 1080p recordings, this (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9300  @ 2.50GHz) should be able to handle them
[01:11] <acloseX> i'm thinkng my prob is my video chipset: Intel G35
[01:11] <erpo> acloseX: If HD in HDHR stands for high definition, I don't know anything about it.
[01:11] <acloseX> i don't know that it really handles HD.  it's just a digital tuner as far as i know
[01:11] <erpo> acloseX: AFAIK, only two things matter about your video chipset: whether it and/or the drivers are buggy, and whether it and the drivers support XvMC.
[01:12] <acloseX> drivers appear to be buggy, and there is only cursory support for XvMC at this point i believe
[01:13] <acloseX> i'm lookin for info on compiling the latest drivers from source
[01:13] <erpo> acloseX: If you're not doing HD and you have a CPU that new, I would just turn off XvMC. The CPU should be able to handle what you're doing and it's more trouble than it's worth.
[01:13] <acloseX> i don't believe i have XvMC turned on.  how do i tell?
[01:13] <acloseX> if it wasn't autoconfigured for me, i didn't do it :)
[01:14] <erpo> acloseX: The last time I messed around with it, I had to set an option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- but things are moving toward a configurationless setup for X these days, so it may be set automatically or set somewhere else.
[01:14] <acloseX> hmm, i'll look at my xorg.conf...
[01:16] <acloseX> i don't see any mention of XvMC in there
[01:16] <acloseX> or xv
[01:17] <erpo> Then it's probably off.
[01:18] <acloseX> k, i don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing :)
[01:19] <acloseX> i was hoping it was on so i could turn it off
[01:19] <acloseX> now i need a new fix :)
[01:19] <erpo> You might want to describe what happens when you try to play a show.
[01:19] <acloseX> sure
[01:20] <acloseX> i'm in the recording manager
[01:20] <acloseX> i see a couple shows that have been recorded
[01:20] <acloseX> and i can see the animated thumbnails at the bottom of the screen for the show i've selected
[01:20] <acloseX> it looks like it will play fine
[01:20] <acloseX> when i actually select it to play, the screen blanks and i get nothing
[01:21] <acloseX> looking in the logs i have a bunch of wonderful errors :)
[01:21] <acloseX> http://pastebin.ca/1076822
[01:21] <acloseX> basically it looks like X can't provide resources
[01:22] <acloseX> but this box has plenty of CPU and 4GB RAM
[01:22] <erpo> I think you pasted the wrong paste.
[01:22] <acloseX> heh
[01:22] <acloseX> let me find the other one
[01:24] <acloseX> http://pastebin.ca/1077157
[01:25] <acloseX> i was able to get a video tht wouldn't play in the internal player or with mplayer to work
[01:25] <acloseX> i ended up using 'mplayer -vo x11 file'
[01:26] <acloseX> and it played
[01:26] <acloseX> from what i've Google that looks like an Intel i810 driver issue
[01:26] <erpo> Sorry, your problem is outside my knowledge bubble.
[01:27] <acloseX> :)
[01:27] <acloseX> no worries
[01:27] <acloseX> thanks for looking
[01:27] <erpo> You're welcome.
[01:28] <acloseX> this may be a silly question, but does video need 3D drivers?
[01:28] <erpo> No.
[01:28] <acloseX> thx :)
[01:29] <acloseX> i'll just try grabbing the latest intel source and compiling it
[01:29] <acloseX> i'm sure there's a Tut out there somewhere ;)
[01:29] <erpo> If that doesn't work, you should try complaining to Intel.
[01:29] <acloseX> i'm sure they'll be happy to help )
[01:29] <acloseX> ;)
[01:29] <erpo> A friend of mine works for Intel, and his job is to make sure Intel chips are the best ones for PVR applications in Linux.
[01:30] <acloseX> he wouldn't happen to frequent AVSForum.com, would he?
[01:30] <erpo> Jesse Barnes?
[01:31] <acloseX> don't know.  there's a guy there from Intel that goes by archibald, or something similar
[01:31] <acloseX> gotta love apt-get :)
[01:31] <acloseX> very cool
[01:32] <erpo> I find it's an acquired taste...
[01:38] <acloseX> erpo: is the kernel source installed by default in a default install?
[01:40] <acloseX> looks like it might be in /usr/src
[02:28] <acloseX> is there a generic package, or set of packages, that can be installed for dev tools?
[02:29] <acloseX> like the stuff you'd need to run autogen,automake, configure...?
[02:29]  * acloseX ignorant
[02:30] <acloseX> i've downloaded the latest Intel graphics driver source from their git repo
[02:30] <darthanubis> yes
[02:30] <darthanubis> bin-utils
[02:30] <darthanubis> learn to search synaptic
[02:30] <acloseX> and i'm attempting to follow the build instructions
[02:30] <acloseX> thx darth
[02:30] <darthanubis> build-essentials
[02:30] <darthanubis> this channel needs ubottu
[02:31] <acloseX> i come up empty when searching for either of those
[02:31] <darthanubis> build-essential
[02:31] <darthanubis> then shroten it
[02:31] <acloseX> ah, binutils-dev
[02:31] <darthanubis> shorten it
[02:31] <darthanubis> no
[02:32] <darthanubis> build-esential
[02:32] <darthanubis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[02:32] <darthanubis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:32] <acloseX> thx :)
[02:33] <darthanubis> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/build-essential
[02:34] <acloseX> goodness, there's a lot of stuff in here :)
[02:38] <acloseX> i'm installin' stuff left and right :)
[02:43] <darthanubis> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[02:47] <acloseX> wow, nice
[02:47] <acloseX> thx darth.  looks like i've got some reading to do :)
[02:47] <acloseX> i think i just had my first successful compile on Linux!
[03:12] <MythbuntuGuest99> hey alll
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest99> Is anyone have an issue with mythbuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso? MD5 is not matching and I can not burn?
[03:13] <darthanubis> download another iso
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest99> I did same issue... Tried other sites also
[03:31] <thedarkone> hey all
[03:32] <thedarkone> i am having a opengl problem it goes blank screen on live tv but get sound
[04:18] <rhpot1991> thedarkone: try disabling your screensave?
[06:50] <jesse_> hello
[06:50] <jesse_> can someone pleae help me
[06:50] <jesse_> i cant remember the command for lirc in term to be able and see the output
[07:03] <buntumyth> well yesterday I had scratchy sound, now I have no sound (wintv tuner card, es1968) ..  line in works on sound card when I use kdetv to test. but no sound from mythtv. and of course the line is not an acceptable source anyhow due to the lack of sync
[07:04] <buntumyth> I have been googling but have not found a path to trouble shoot. aplay -l list 4 items, no errors
[08:16] <roland> Hi there.. can anybody tell me, why i can't watch tv with mythtv?
[08:17] <roland> when i choose "watch tv" the screen get black for 3 seconds and returns than to the main menue
[08:18] <tgm4883_laptop> roland, can you pastebin your backend log
[08:19] <buntumyth> hi tgm4883_laptop
[08:19] <tgm4883_laptop> hi
[08:22] <buntumyth> do you have a direction to point me in on my lack of audio?. I have yet to find "TFM" to "R"  lol   I have things muted and set to capture as I did when I had sound but I now have no sound except the tiny bleed through the muted line input
[08:22] <buntumyth> other apps sound fine
[08:23] <roland_> sure.... if you can tell me how
[08:23] <roland_> <--- newbie
[08:24] <buntumyth> roland it is in the cannel topic that shows when you first join
[08:24] <buntumyth> Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com
[08:24] <tgm4883_laptop> roland, go to the backend, find /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and copy and paste the whole thing here
[08:24] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin | roland
[08:24] <Zinn> roland: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/
[08:25] <roland_> thx
[08:25] <tgm4883_laptop> buntumyth, seems like a common software encoder problem
[08:27] <buntumyth> hmmm, It may have occured after I updated last night but I have no idea where to start. my logs show no errors, I have tried all the settings there are in general setup and nothing changes. even playback of old recordings is silent not just live tv
[08:29] <tgm4883_laptop> these old recordings have sound outside of mythtv?
[08:30] <roland_> so, the logfile is "on air" ;-)
[08:30] <buntumyth> hmmm I havent tried to play them there.
[08:31] <buntumyth> they had sound in myth before, but it did not occure to me that the nuv file could be played outside of mythtv
[08:31] <tgm4883_laptop> roland_, please paste the link here
[08:31] <roland_> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d6d9c1992
[08:31] <tgm4883_laptop> buntumyth, if they had sound before then that answers my question
[08:31] <buntumyth> ok
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> buntumyth, you have switched the audio device that mythtv uses?
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> roland_, yep just as I thought
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> your recording directory isn't writable
[08:32] <tgm4883_laptop> you need to move it outside your home directory
[08:32] <buntumyth> maybe kdetv messed with things?
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> and make it owned by mythtv:mythtv
[08:33] <tgm4883_laptop> and the permissions 775
[08:33] <buntumyth> but at this point I have been messing with things so I am sure I chaged stuff.
[08:33] <roland_> and livetv is depends on this fact too?
[08:34] <tgm4883_laptop> roland_, yes
[08:34] <roland_> hey, I try this
[08:34] <roland_> Thanks a lot
[08:35] <buntumyth> I feel silly. I just need to keep changing stuff till it works.  I figured it would be that "simple"  sorry tgm4883 I try not to ask bad questions ;)
[08:36] <tgm4883_laptop> buntumyth, no question is a bad question.  We all start somewhere
[08:38] <buntumyth> oh well bed time. I will spend tomorrow playing 3card monte with myth audio.  I had scratchy audio yesterday, I started working on tweaks and dont remember the sound quiting, but it did apparently
[08:39] <buntumyth> it wouldnt be as bad if it had never worked, but to know I broke it and have no idea is gonna keep me up :/
[08:39] <buntumyth> good night tgm4883_laptop thanks
[08:39] <tgm4883_laptop> night
[08:42] <roland_> do i have to restart my mysql-server after all this? it still doesen't work
[08:48] <roland_> do i have to restart my mysql-server after all this? it still doesen't work
[12:48] <Bosambo> Greetings all
[12:57] <gavinlew> hi, can anyone help me with my remote control problem?
[12:58] <laga> !ask
[12:58] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[12:58] <laga> :)
[12:58] <gavinlew> im running mythbuntu 8.04.1 with a nova-t pci what remote control should I choose in the config editor ?
[12:59] <gavinlew> ive tried nova-t 500 and the key mapping is weird, Back/Exit doesnt work so you get stuck inside a movie
[13:14] <Bosambo> Is there anyway I can boost reception on my DVB-T stick? In Kaffeine it is fine as it is in Me-TV and VLC player. My channels.conf file was scanned a populated fine and MythTV has all the channels listed and can get a lock...but only ever gets about a 30% signal at best which creates artifacts and lags.
[13:23] <gavinlew> bosambo: r u using an external aerial or a supplied internal one?
[13:24] <Bosambo> Using an internal one, bigger tan the one that came with the stick
[13:27] <gavinlew> sorry i dont know, here i have an external aerial wired to my nova-t
[13:49] <gavinlew> im thinking theres some incompatibility with haupuagge kit and mythbuntu
[13:49] <gavinlew> when you go into the menu to choose a video you cannot go back to the main myth menus either
[13:49] <laga> it's most likely not configured properly
[13:50] <gavinlew> laga: i chose the remote control via the gui which should build the config files
[13:51] <laga> ah, i thought mythtv was hanging
[13:51] <gavinlew> no because i can go back up by hitting "esc" on the keyboard
[13:53] <gavinlew> i was trying to test lircd from the command line, but lircd wont launch either (sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start)
[13:54] <laga> it's probably registered as an input device already.. can't help ya much, but if you search the forums i'm sure you will find a solution
[13:54] <gavinlew> ah i think i finding the problem
[13:55] <gavinlew>  /usr/sbin/lircd --driver=devinput --device=/dev/lirc0
[13:55] <gavinlew>    /dev/lirc0 doesnt exist
[14:04] <gavinlew> now ive tied it to /dev/input/input5 which is correct , the buttons start to work,but OK and Back/Exit fail
[14:04] <gavinlew> so getting closer :)
[14:16] <gavinlew> fixed :)
[14:16] <gavinlew> now just have to remap the keys, as putting ESC on the stop key is silly imho
[14:49] <zippytech> whats the tric to getting audio out volume louder
[14:49] <zippytech> i have everthing max the i can find
[14:51] <zippytech> even tried a new sblive card
[16:26] <|gandhii|> I'm trying to exit X via "ctrl-alt-del" to install new nvidia drivers...   just exits out to login screen..  wasup with that?
[16:29] <gavinlew> ctrl/alt/del will reload the x server
[16:30] <|gandhii|> how do i exit it?   ie..  to a cmd line
[16:31] <laga> |gandhii|: please use envy-ng
[16:31] <gavinlew> easiest way is to boot ur distro into console only mode
[16:31] <|gandhii|> oh wait..   i meant to say ctrl-alt-bkspc
[16:31] <laga> instead of fscking up your system
[16:32] <|gandhii|> laga:  if you're refering to the open source drivers...  I was under the impression that the 3d wasn't working.. as well as the multi-monitor and tv out functions
[16:32] <laga> no, i'm referring to envy-ng ;)
[16:32] <laga> it's a tool to install new drivers in a more supported way
[16:33] <|gandhii|> oh.    I'll check that out.
[16:33] <|gandhii|> thanks.
[16:33] <|gandhii|> gavin:  i'm not seeing a console only mode option in the login screen that doesn't keep me in X
[20:45] <camden_eutaw> is it possible to use mythtv with over the air?
[20:47] <camden_eutaw> i tried using a device that brings in the antenna signal through USB but no channels would come in... it was all snow
[20:50] <acloseX> yes it is possible
[20:50] <acloseX> i don't know anything about the USB tuners though
[20:50] <acloseX> they (most likely) have very limited support
[20:50] <acloseX> but a lot of Myth users only get OTA
[21:14] <camden_eutaw> what's the alternative to a USB tuner
[21:48] <camden_eutaw> is there any alternative to a USB tuner for OTA?  If not, should I look into a better one?  The problem is.... mine is only bringing in snow
[22:07] <acloseX> sorry, i've been off reading :)
[22:07] <acloseX> there are several PCI tuners available
[22:07] <acloseX> and there are a couple network enabled tuners such as the SiliconDust HDHR
[22:08] <acloseX> spend a little time here:  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Hardware
[22:08] <acloseX> that should list most of the 'supported' tuners
[22:19] <camden_eutaw> ok
[23:31] <Tuv0k> I'd like to autotranscode after the cutlist is generated
[23:31] <Tuv0k> without those sloppy broken scripts
[23:34] <hads> Sloppy broken scripts?
[23:42] <Tuv0k> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Script_-_RemoveCommercials
[23:46] <defendguin> superm1: you around?