[00:21] TheOther, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_PVR-350#Displaying_X_on_the_PVR-350_video_output [00:23] @foxbuntu, thanks! Will check this out. My problem is I think that I'm running hardy, and most example configs are for earlier versions [00:23] TheOther, the X portions should be the same [00:25] hm, ok [00:25] let me try again... [00:26] joat, I dont think its documented, you can ask in #mythtv however [00:31] When I press s while watching TV to use the channel guide, the interface becomes very laggy. There is a delay of many seconds (perhaps 7 or 8?) between pressing the up, down, left, or right arrows and mythtv responding. CPU usage is far below maximum while this is happening. How can I begin troubleshooting this? [00:34] Check the logs. Possibly an issue with icons or something. [00:37] The only thing in there that looks like it could be negative would be "Realtime priority would require SUID as root." [00:37] Of course, I'm assuming that a slow frontend is a frontend problem... [00:38] i think there is a connection with the theme used, some themes feel laggier when navigating the epg ... [00:38] I'll try changing the theme. [00:40] never 7-8s lags though ... [00:41] Actually it's more like 10 or 12. :/ [00:42] I'm not sure if it's getting worse or I'm just measuring it more accurately. [00:46] Ok, I'm getting this in my backend logs: http://pastebin.com/m1b8d08bd [00:56] can you install and login via ssh and run processes in background if you install mythbuntu? [00:57] Sure, it's just Ubuntu. [00:58] thx [00:58] wait so there's no difference in just installing ubuntu then doing sudo apt-get mythtv*? [00:58] *install [00:59] Well sort of. You would end up with the same thing if you configured everything the same yes. [00:59] hm [00:59] But you may need to do a bunch of configuration. [00:59] It is all the same repository/packages though. [01:00] installing mythtv on ubuntu is still on topic for this chan right? [01:00] Sure, I'd say so. [01:00] k thx [01:01] erpo: Looks like there's some sort of config issue there. [01:01] Hmm. [01:01] Perhaps you've setup a slave backend or something? [01:01] 'Could not connect to server ""' looks pretty suspicious. [01:02] yeah i had that problem too [01:02] A show automatically started recording and I hit the "watch live TV" button. It gave me the option of watching the channel that was being recorded, which I selected. Then, I hit s to go to the program guide and it's not laggy. But there's no PiP window. [01:02] Ryuho: What was your issue? [01:02] mysql and the backen had trouble connecting to it's self [01:02] backend [01:02] i just uninstalled everything mythtv* [01:03] but i'll try again once i get the chance [01:03] Ugh. [01:03] Mythtv needs to be more maintenance free, like an appliance. :/ [01:05] anyone know if MythBuntu installs Compiz or Beryl by default? [01:05] Beryl is no more. [01:05] k, guess it ain't that one :) [01:06] Compiz? [01:06] erpo: It is like an appliance. [01:06] acloseX: Compiz is not installed on my mythbuntu machine. [01:06] hads: I respectfully disagree. [01:06] thx :) [01:07] acloseX: np. [01:07] yeah, it's not like toaster :) [01:07] erpo: You're welcome to. [01:07] that just works ;) [01:07] acloseX: Now that's not true. My mythtv box can make toast. [01:08] acloseX: Reliably, regardless of whether the software is working. [01:08] I'm sure patches would be welcome for your issues. [01:09] erpo, maybe you'll have some sage advice for me :) [01:09] acloseX: Take of the case and put the bread on the CPU heat sink. [01:09] s/of/off/ [01:09] i'm struggling with a new install where shows will be recorded but i can't play them [01:10] i'm recording with an HDHR [01:10] and even if they were x.264 1080p recordings, this (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz) should be able to handle them [01:11] i'm thinkng my prob is my video chipset: Intel G35 [01:11] acloseX: If HD in HDHR stands for high definition, I don't know anything about it. [01:11] i don't know that it really handles HD. it's just a digital tuner as far as i know [01:11] acloseX: AFAIK, only two things matter about your video chipset: whether it and/or the drivers are buggy, and whether it and the drivers support XvMC. [01:12] drivers appear to be buggy, and there is only cursory support for XvMC at this point i believe [01:13] i'm lookin for info on compiling the latest drivers from source [01:13] acloseX: If you're not doing HD and you have a CPU that new, I would just turn off XvMC. The CPU should be able to handle what you're doing and it's more trouble than it's worth. [01:13] i don't believe i have XvMC turned on. how do i tell? [01:13] if it wasn't autoconfigured for me, i didn't do it :) [01:14] acloseX: The last time I messed around with it, I had to set an option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- but things are moving toward a configurationless setup for X these days, so it may be set automatically or set somewhere else. [01:14] hmm, i'll look at my xorg.conf... [01:16] i don't see any mention of XvMC in there [01:16] or xv [01:17] Then it's probably off. [01:18] k, i don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing :) [01:19] i was hoping it was on so i could turn it off [01:19] now i need a new fix :) [01:19] You might want to describe what happens when you try to play a show. [01:19] sure [01:20] i'm in the recording manager [01:20] i see a couple shows that have been recorded [01:20] and i can see the animated thumbnails at the bottom of the screen for the show i've selected [01:20] it looks like it will play fine [01:20] when i actually select it to play, the screen blanks and i get nothing [01:21] looking in the logs i have a bunch of wonderful errors :) [01:21] http://pastebin.ca/1076822 [01:21] basically it looks like X can't provide resources [01:22] but this box has plenty of CPU and 4GB RAM [01:22] I think you pasted the wrong paste. [01:22] heh [01:22] let me find the other one [01:24] http://pastebin.ca/1077157 [01:25] i was able to get a video tht wouldn't play in the internal player or with mplayer to work [01:25] i ended up using 'mplayer -vo x11 file' [01:26] and it played [01:26] from what i've Google that looks like an Intel i810 driver issue [01:26] Sorry, your problem is outside my knowledge bubble. [01:27] :) [01:27] no worries [01:27] thanks for looking [01:27] You're welcome. [01:28] this may be a silly question, but does video need 3D drivers? [01:28] No. [01:28] thx :) [01:29] i'll just try grabbing the latest intel source and compiling it [01:29] i'm sure there's a Tut out there somewhere ;) [01:29] If that doesn't work, you should try complaining to Intel. [01:29] i'm sure they'll be happy to help ) [01:29] ;) [01:29] A friend of mine works for Intel, and his job is to make sure Intel chips are the best ones for PVR applications in Linux. [01:30] he wouldn't happen to frequent AVSForum.com, would he? [01:30] Jesse Barnes? [01:31] don't know. there's a guy there from Intel that goes by archibald, or something similar [01:31] gotta love apt-get :) [01:31] very cool [01:32] I find it's an acquired taste... [01:38] erpo: is the kernel source installed by default in a default install? [01:40] looks like it might be in /usr/src [02:28] is there a generic package, or set of packages, that can be installed for dev tools? [02:29] like the stuff you'd need to run autogen,automake, configure...? [02:29] * acloseX ignorant [02:30] i've downloaded the latest Intel graphics driver source from their git repo [02:30] yes [02:30] bin-utils [02:30] learn to search synaptic [02:30] and i'm attempting to follow the build instructions [02:30] thx darth [02:30] build-essentials [02:30] this channel needs ubottu [02:31] i come up empty when searching for either of those [02:31] build-essential [02:31] then shroten it [02:31] ah, binutils-dev [02:31] shorten it [02:31] no [02:32] build-esential [02:32] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ [02:32] http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [02:32] thx :) [02:33] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/build-essential [02:34] goodness, there's a lot of stuff in here :) [02:38] i'm installin' stuff left and right :) [02:43] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy [02:47] wow, nice [02:47] thx darth. looks like i've got some reading to do :) [02:47] i think i just had my first successful compile on Linux! [03:12] hey alll [03:13] Is anyone have an issue with mythbuntu-8.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso? MD5 is not matching and I can not burn? [03:13] download another iso [03:14] I did same issue... Tried other sites also [03:31] hey all [03:32] i am having a opengl problem it goes blank screen on live tv but get sound [04:18] thedarkone: try disabling your screensave? [06:50] hello [06:50] can someone pleae help me [06:50] i cant remember the command for lirc in term to be able and see the output [07:03] well yesterday I had scratchy sound, now I have no sound (wintv tuner card, es1968) .. line in works on sound card when I use kdetv to test. but no sound from mythtv. and of course the line is not an acceptable source anyhow due to the lack of sync [07:04] I have been googling but have not found a path to trouble shoot. aplay -l list 4 items, no errors [08:16] Hi there.. can anybody tell me, why i can't watch tv with mythtv? [08:17] when i choose "watch tv" the screen get black for 3 seconds and returns than to the main menue [08:18] roland, can you pastebin your backend log [08:19] hi tgm4883_laptop [08:19] hi [08:22] do you have a direction to point me in on my lack of audio?. I have yet to find "TFM" to "R" lol I have things muted and set to capture as I did when I had sound but I now have no sound except the tiny bleed through the muted line input [08:22] other apps sound fine [08:23] sure.... if you can tell me how [08:23] <--- newbie [08:24] roland it is in the cannel topic that shows when you first join [08:24] Paste logs @ http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com [08:24] roland, go to the backend, find /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and copy and paste the whole thing here [08:24] !pastebin | roland [08:24] roland: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/ [08:25] thx [08:25] buntumyth, seems like a common software encoder problem [08:27] hmmm, It may have occured after I updated last night but I have no idea where to start. my logs show no errors, I have tried all the settings there are in general setup and nothing changes. even playback of old recordings is silent not just live tv [08:29] these old recordings have sound outside of mythtv? [08:30] so, the logfile is "on air" ;-) [08:30] hmmm I havent tried to play them there. [08:31] they had sound in myth before, but it did not occure to me that the nuv file could be played outside of mythtv [08:31] roland_, please paste the link here [08:31] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d6d9c1992 [08:31] buntumyth, if they had sound before then that answers my question [08:31] ok [08:32] buntumyth, you have switched the audio device that mythtv uses? [08:32] roland_, yep just as I thought [08:32] your recording directory isn't writable [08:32] you need to move it outside your home directory [08:32] maybe kdetv messed with things? [08:33] and make it owned by mythtv:mythtv [08:33] and the permissions 775 [08:33] but at this point I have been messing with things so I am sure I chaged stuff. [08:33] and livetv is depends on this fact too? [08:34] roland_, yes [08:34] hey, I try this [08:34] Thanks a lot [08:35] I feel silly. I just need to keep changing stuff till it works. I figured it would be that "simple" sorry tgm4883 I try not to ask bad questions ;) [08:36] buntumyth, no question is a bad question. We all start somewhere [08:38] oh well bed time. I will spend tomorrow playing 3card monte with myth audio. I had scratchy audio yesterday, I started working on tweaks and dont remember the sound quiting, but it did apparently [08:39] it wouldnt be as bad if it had never worked, but to know I broke it and have no idea is gonna keep me up :/ [08:39] good night tgm4883_laptop thanks [08:39] night [08:42] do i have to restart my mysql-server after all this? it still doesen't work [08:48] do i have to restart my mysql-server after all this? it still doesen't work [12:48] Greetings all [12:57] hi, can anyone help me with my remote control problem? [12:58] !ask [12:58] Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. [12:58] :) [12:58] im running mythbuntu 8.04.1 with a nova-t pci what remote control should I choose in the config editor ? [12:59] ive tried nova-t 500 and the key mapping is weird, Back/Exit doesnt work so you get stuck inside a movie [13:14] Is there anyway I can boost reception on my DVB-T stick? In Kaffeine it is fine as it is in Me-TV and VLC player. My channels.conf file was scanned a populated fine and MythTV has all the channels listed and can get a lock...but only ever gets about a 30% signal at best which creates artifacts and lags. [13:23] bosambo: r u using an external aerial or a supplied internal one? [13:24] Using an internal one, bigger tan the one that came with the stick [13:27] sorry i dont know, here i have an external aerial wired to my nova-t [13:49] im thinking theres some incompatibility with haupuagge kit and mythbuntu [13:49] when you go into the menu to choose a video you cannot go back to the main myth menus either [13:49] it's most likely not configured properly [13:50] laga: i chose the remote control via the gui which should build the config files [13:51] ah, i thought mythtv was hanging [13:51] no because i can go back up by hitting "esc" on the keyboard [13:53] i was trying to test lircd from the command line, but lircd wont launch either (sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start) [13:54] it's probably registered as an input device already.. can't help ya much, but if you search the forums i'm sure you will find a solution [13:54] ah i think i finding the problem [13:55] /usr/sbin/lircd --driver=devinput --device=/dev/lirc0 [13:55] /dev/lirc0 doesnt exist [14:04] now ive tied it to /dev/input/input5 which is correct , the buttons start to work,but OK and Back/Exit fail [14:04] so getting closer :) [14:16] fixed :) [14:16] now just have to remap the keys, as putting ESC on the stop key is silly imho [14:49] whats the tric to getting audio out volume louder [14:49] i have everthing max the i can find [14:51] even tried a new sblive card [16:26] <|gandhii|> I'm trying to exit X via "ctrl-alt-del" to install new nvidia drivers... just exits out to login screen.. wasup with that? [16:29] ctrl/alt/del will reload the x server [16:30] <|gandhii|> how do i exit it? ie.. to a cmd line [16:31] |gandhii|: please use envy-ng [16:31] easiest way is to boot ur distro into console only mode [16:31] <|gandhii|> oh wait.. i meant to say ctrl-alt-bkspc [16:31] instead of fscking up your system [16:32] <|gandhii|> laga: if you're refering to the open source drivers... I was under the impression that the 3d wasn't working.. as well as the multi-monitor and tv out functions [16:32] no, i'm referring to envy-ng ;) [16:32] it's a tool to install new drivers in a more supported way [16:33] <|gandhii|> oh. I'll check that out. [16:33] <|gandhii|> thanks. [16:33] <|gandhii|> gavin: i'm not seeing a console only mode option in the login screen that doesn't keep me in X === rhpot1992 is now known as rhpot1991 === zippytech_ is now known as zippytech [20:45] is it possible to use mythtv with over the air? [20:47] i tried using a device that brings in the antenna signal through USB but no channels would come in... it was all snow [20:50] yes it is possible [20:50] i don't know anything about the USB tuners though [20:50] they (most likely) have very limited support [20:50] but a lot of Myth users only get OTA [21:14] what's the alternative to a USB tuner [21:48] is there any alternative to a USB tuner for OTA? If not, should I look into a better one? The problem is.... mine is only bringing in snow [22:07] sorry, i've been off reading :) [22:07] there are several PCI tuners available [22:07] and there are a couple network enabled tuners such as the SiliconDust HDHR [22:08] spend a little time here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Hardware [22:08] that should list most of the 'supported' tuners [22:19] ok [23:31] I'd like to autotranscode after the cutlist is generated [23:31] without those sloppy broken scripts [23:34] Sloppy broken scripts? [23:42] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Script_-_RemoveCommercials [23:46] superm1: you around?