[00:26] i used wine to install a game on here, using xubuntu 8.04, and it created an "Other" section in my apps menu, containing the game I installed... although, the game doesn't work and i've removed it using wine, but now the "Other" section stays... how would i remove it [00:28] bassboi: it's in ~/.local/share/applications [00:30] i just delete? [00:30] yeah, you can delete the .desktop file that's in there [00:30] it's a laouncher for the menu [00:31] theres defaults.list and wine [00:31] in wine? [00:32] yeah [00:33] ok.. if i remove wine, i can delete the whole wine folder, right [00:34] yes, it's your home directory anyways, all you can lose is your user's settings [00:35] wow, ty very much [00:35] not hard at all [00:35] sudo rm -Rv wine [00:35] <3 [00:36] great [00:37] no sudo necessary [00:37] actually, you shouldn't use sudo when doing things in your home dir [00:37] ok [00:38] learning new things every day bout this linux fandango [00:42] GANGSTER [00:52] hi, I was wondering if there is a keyboard shortcut for accessing the application menu? [00:52] or if I could set one? [00:54] eh. [00:55] huh [00:55] never thought of that stjan, there probably is [00:55] have you checked the documentation? [00:55] stjan: quick search : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292391 [00:56] heh, guess I'm not a very good searcher then sage. [00:56] thanks. [01:22] hello, how do i set the default audio device if i have more than 1 soundcard [01:33] AlexJP: hi again .. there's also a package called "asoundconf-gtk" that offers a GUI way to do that it seems, just found out .. [01:39] How do I get a network graph in the panel? (I tried install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin but it seem I have to install alot of gnome stuff befor I can use it) [01:39] David-A, check gkrellm [01:40] David-A, it won't be in the panel...but I have run it for about a decade now...wouldn't want linux without it [01:43] I have a cpu graph in the panel and would like the netw too. so it wont overlap or be overlapped by other windows. [01:45] David-A, gkrellm will put a ton of stuff in a stack...it is highly configurable and there are a good number of plugins for it as well. I also found it to be more efficient than the panel plugins...uses less memory and less cpu [01:46] th0r: how do you get it out of the way but still visible? [01:46] David-A, just let it sit on the desktop...it sits under everything else unless I click on it, so it is pretty inobtrusive [01:47] David-A, I hardly run anything maximized, so there is always a little space betweeen the windows and the screen edge, so if I need to see the info in gkrellm I just click on it and it pops to the top [01:48] th0r: I never maximize too, but there is seldom a corner I can count on being unused. [01:50] David-A, I keep gkrellm along the right side of the screen. I like to keep an eye on the network, cpu and memory, and this also puts the volume controls where they are usable. [01:51] David-A, in a stack about half the height of the screen I have cpu, memory, wifi, network, battery, volume, webcam, hard drive, and a screenshot button [01:51] "click on it": I have the clock and the cpu graph in the panel, and I have tried to have the panel auto-hide, but wasnt good, because i had to move the mouse to see clock or cpu. I think move the mouse plus click is too much work for me. :) [01:51] David-A, you can always make it stay on top...but I find that annoying [01:52] David-A, In fact, I am on a quest to find out how to make the xfce panels NOT stay-on-top [01:52] interesting. did you try autohide? [01:53] David-A, yeah...I have two of them autohide now, but would like to make them act like normal windows [01:56] th0r: there ara about 30 plugins for gkrellm. any needed for cpu graph, netw graph and digital clock, or are they builtin? [01:57] David-A, those are all built in, but you should take a look at some of the others. Also, take a look at the homepage...there are a ton of themes and some of them are very nice [01:58] David-A, the homepage is actually on page two of the google search ... http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/ [01:58] David-A, also be aware you can turn off things that are built into the stack so you only show what you want [02:00] th0r: ok, i am in gkrellm's config dialog now, i'll see what it can do for me. thanks! [02:08] Hi all... I have an external USB HDD and it is partitioned with NTFS, can I mount it with write privs? [02:14] alyawn: there's a package called ntfs-config with which you can configure it that way yes, there's a nice howto with screenshots at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html (for feisty, but still works the same in hardy) [02:18] glitsj16: Thanks for the info [02:18] looks exactly like what I need! [02:18] alyawn: very welcome [02:23] is there a program for keying macros? i.e. I want to repeat a set of keystrokes for the next 20 hours; any ideas? >.< [02:23] I just installed xubuntu-desktop onto ubuntu-server-amd64. When I login through gdm, I get a heron background with an xterm - no panel, no WM. Diagnostic steps? [02:24] When I manually run xfwm4 and xfce4-panel manaully, it's ok. [02:25] PMantis, are those two running when you get the terminal and the heron? [02:25] no [02:25] sup [02:26] One other thing happening: the menus, and the border around the term keep changing... like the human theme is fighting with another theme. [02:26] PMantis, do you have gnome installed? I have encountered such problems after installing xfce on a gnome ubuntu [02:26] I never install gnome [02:27] PMantis: do you run a xfce session in gdm ? [02:28] dpkg-reconfigure gdm doesn't give any options, so it's the only DM installed. [02:28] PMantis, you need to run 'startxfce4' if I remember correctly [02:28] glitsj16: Yes, GDM show the login screen, XFCE is supposed to provide the desktop. [02:28] Shouldn't the xinitrc handle that? [02:29] PMantis, I think you can add it to one of the files in ~..... .profile or .bashrc or maybe .xinitrc? [02:29] PMantis, I am not on my ubuntu machine right now so I can't tell you for sure [02:30] PMantis, if I remember correctly the default is to run twm, which just gives you a terminal [02:30] PMantis: not sure, they changed xubuntu-defaults recently and that changed the default GDM session from xinitrc to something else, easily checked i suppose via the settings > login window (or gksy /usr/sbin/gdmsetup) [02:30] I ran gdmsetup over SSH to config this [02:31] I setup an identical server last week, except it was JeOS based. [02:31] That's still running fine. I have an NFS mounted /home, and ldap auth. Both servers use the same /home and same ldap through pam. [02:32] I can login to one server w/o issues. but the new one won't load properly. [02:33] PMantis: okay, i was thinking that changing the default session in gdm to xfce might autostart xfwm etc. [02:33] * PMantis chcks gdmsetup [02:33] Hello [02:34] hi cody-somerville [02:34] This is so weird. [02:35] PMantis, you should be aware that not all linux distros will start the wm in the same way [02:35] As I'm typing in the terminal, the fonts of "File edit view..." keep changing, the colors change. [02:35] th0r: True, but I rarely use anything except *buntu [02:35] PMantis, please provide output of: ps ux | cat [02:36] PMantis, I thought you said the other machine was JeOS [02:36] Yeah: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos [02:37] PMantis, learn something new every day [02:37] :-) [02:37] th0r: So, basically the same thing, just diff kernel [02:37] cody-somerville: You prefer that to be ran from an X session? [02:38] PMantis, You might want to look closer just to make sure. With that small footprint I wouldn't be surprised if the start sequence hasn't been tailored [02:38] cody-somerville: And why pipe through cat? [02:38] PMantis, so that I get the entire thing instead of it being cut off [02:39] th0r: on a completely different note, i read that you are looking for a way to get your panels to your liking .. have you tried devilspie ? [02:39] JeOS is a server based, just like the Ubuntu-server I installed. I assume it's the same once I install xubuntu-desktop [02:40] cody-somerville: Neat trick [02:41] can xubuntu do compiz? [02:41] cody-somerville: OK, particular pastebin you like, or /query it to you ? :) [02:41] like with the wiggly windows and what not [02:41] zaapiel, yup [02:41] cool [02:41] zaapiel: if your graphics supports it yes [02:41] PMantis, pastebin.ubuntu.com [02:41] how? :D [02:41] glitsj16, no..hadn't heard of it. I have the panels set up like i want, but I want them to behave as normal windows instead of staying on top all the time [02:41] i got the nvidia driver glitsj16 [02:41] so i got hardware accell [02:42] http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ [02:42] cody-somerville: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28586/ [02:42] ty [02:43] PMantis, the xfce4 session isn't starting [02:43] th0r: it's a window-matching utility and in the repo's, might work .. it has a GUI as well, more info at http://burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie [02:43] PMantis, pastebin ~/.dmrc [02:43] cody-somerville: I know that. :) === Zeeded|AFK is now known as Zeeded [02:44] PMantis, Click session in gdm and click xfce4 and then click make it default session [02:44] hmm... still can't mount my external hdd w/ ntfs [02:44] oops: The NTFS partition is hibernated. [02:45] alyawn: so that ntfs-config package didn't do the trick ? any relevant errors ? [02:45] cody-somerville: Only 2 lines in ~/.dmrc: [Desktop]\n Session=default [02:45] alyawn: ah well that would explain things :) [02:45] nope... when I try to mount by hand I get the "hibernated" error above [02:46] cody-somerville: Hmmm, choosing the session in GDM worked! But I selected xfce with gdmsetup!. I dont' get that. [02:46] PMantis, probably because of the .dmrc overrode that [02:46] glitsj16: yes it does explain it, but now to fix it... [02:47] That's the same /home that used on our other server.. so it would've overrode that on THAT serve, too, wouldn't it?? [02:47] glitsj16, thanks...I installed devilspie just now and will fetch the gui when I get a chance [02:47] alyawn: did you go to hibernate on that drive under windows or anything ? [02:47] cody-somerville: Both machines use NFS mounted /home to the same export. [02:47] glitsj16: no clue... the truth is that it probably wasn't shutdown properly [02:47] Hmmmm [02:48] PMantis, Why would it not then? [02:48] alyawn: in that case i'd suggest rebooting into windows and get a clean shutdown [02:49] glitsj16, I'm not sure that's possible... It's a laptop hdd and I no longer have the original hardware [02:49] alyawn, use ntfs tools then [02:49] cody-somerville: That's my point - the .dmrc file exists on both server in my /home, since it's NFS /home. both servers have xfce4 & gdm, no gnome, no kde, etc. If the .gdmrc is at fault, it should cause issues on both servers. Hmmm [02:50] PMantis, it may very well have been causing issues you were unaware of [02:50] cody-somerville, you mean ntfsprogs... apt-getting now [02:50] cody-somerville: Maybe... I just DELETED the file, and I can login fine... so it was the file causing the problem. weird! [02:51] * cody-somerville nods. [02:51] Btw, who is psyched for Xubuntu Intrepid 8.10???!! :D [02:51] cody-somerville: I'm still a little flabbergasted. Either way, thanks!! [02:51] PMantis, np :] [02:52] Is Xubuntu "offical" ? [02:52] SuperMonster, yes [02:53] cody-somerville: And a 'ls -l /home/*/.dmrc' revealed a few of those buggers [02:55] PMantis, did you delete them all? [02:55] cody-somerville: yup [02:56] Gotta have this new server ready for monday [02:56] PMantis, does any of the computers run a de besides xfce4? [02:56] Not that use this /home [02:56] Okay. [02:57] only the 2 machines - both thin client servers. [02:57] :) [02:58] how do i disable system sounds? [02:59] cody-somerville: Very handy line: apt-get remove --purge gnome-games* brasero transmission-gtk abiword gnumeric [02:59] :-D [02:59] gotisch, xubuntu doesn't come with any [03:00] PMantis, :P [03:00] PMantis, do you install any alternatives? [03:00] cody-somerville: openoffice.org [03:00] They can't burn a CD on a thin client, and we don't need them downloading things p2p. [03:01] or wasting times with games. :) [03:01] err, time [03:01] mh well xchat does a loud tuut whenever i press backspace in entry bar and there is no text.. are you saying this is xchat related? [03:02] gotisch, oh, that [03:02] the system bell [03:02] is there a safe way to "disconnect" a usb hdd? or is umounting enough? [03:02] so how do i disable that? its like 3 times louder then anything else [03:03] cody-somerville: This brings up another point - if they're on a thin client using XDMCP, *why* should the be given a "shutdown" option on the logoff menu? None of them have permission to shut down the server! :) [03:04] PMantis, you can use kiosk mode to disable that option [03:04] alyawn, yes, unmounting makes it safe [03:04] cody-somerville: Oh, do tell. [03:04] gotisch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746 [03:05] PMantis, this is for 4.2 but it should work with 4.4: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session [03:05] PMantis, particularly: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-kiosk-mode [03:06] PMantis, put this in /etc/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc [03:06] [xfce4-session] [03:06] Shutdown=%admin [03:07] and all new users will have that kios setting :) [03:07] cody-somerville: "new" users? [03:08] PMantis, the file would only be copied over to the user's home directory when their account is created [03:09] So, needs to be in ~/.config/xfce4/kiosk [03:10] PMantis, actually... [03:11] PMantis, I've never used kiosk myself [03:11] PMantis, you'll have to look into it for full details [03:12] thanks :) [03:12] was missing system bell in my google hunt [03:12] gotisch, :) [03:12] cody-somerville: Awesome pointer. It's grayed out now. [03:12] PMantis, :] [03:12] cody-somerville: But without a $HOME/.dmrc file, it complains at login. [03:12] PMantis, what does? [03:13] I think it's GDM - happens as soon as I hit enter. [03:13] cody-somerville: Also mentions permissions [03:13] Anyone here available to help with a problem installing Xubuntu? [03:13] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91455 [03:14] ok... ntfsfix, followed by mount -ntfs-3g -o remove_hiberfile... thanks for the help again everyone [03:14] err ^^ it worked... [03:14] :D [03:44] hi all [03:48] hi [04:04] does anyone know of a decent lan monitor app? [04:14] are there proper bluetooth tools? bluetooth-sendto is pretty pathetic [04:15] install gnome-bluetooth [06:28] does anyone know if there is a way to modify the desktop settings so that when an image is dragged from firefox, the image is saved rather than a url-shortcut? [06:53] I don't think so [06:54] just thought id ask [09:25] HI [09:25] Do you use some search engine for a desktop computer running xubuntu? [09:25] I had wrong first impressions with Beagle in the past [09:26] Beaing unable to control it`s beahvior [09:26] And I am wondering, did things changed in Hardy 8.04.1, [09:27] Is it safe to use Beagle or sonething, without putting myself in position that my computer will index everything without control and waste my resources while I am working? [09:36] * Valsum doesn't use any search engine. [09:38] Valsum, How do you search ,for instance, for *.deb files, recursively in directory? [09:40] I've never had to do that so far, but guess I'd do it via File Browser. [09:41] nikolam: find directory -name '*.deb' [09:42] nikolam: you could use catfish for that, if you like gui [09:42] I use catfish. But it seems very slow and when I search for *.deb results includes zz.deblala etc.. [10:58] hi [10:58] i've changed the size of the mouse cursor to big but it only works when the cursor is over some applications [10:58] is this normal? [11:00] this behaviour only applies to xubuntu [11:35] got a question about xfe [11:35] i've attempted to change cursor size [11:36] but it only has different look over certain applications [11:36] is this a sensible behaviour? [11:41] mr_boo, try logging out and back in? [11:48] i've rebooted [11:52] If it looks like a bug, smells like a bug, and quacks like a bug than it is probably a bug :) [12:57] Hello @All: When I try to access a partition, gnome says: "Cannot mount volume. You are not privileged to mount this volume." although I am i the plugdev group, any ideas what causes this problem ? [13:05] eshat: just guessing here, but have you tried sudo? [13:15] anyone know where i can get an nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200 driver? [14:27] hello, i have just installed mpg123, but it hasnt shown up. anyone know where it will be? [14:32] hi [14:38] hey [14:44] AlexJP: mpg123 is a command-line based music player. :) [14:45] jlmc oh yeah [14:45] jlmc lol thats no good :P [14:45] :) so it wouldn't show up in your menu [14:45] nah i just did a cmd line mpg123 [14:46] dont suppose you know of a good, light mp3 player, with a gui [14:46] let me check something [14:48] jlmc sure [14:48] how lightweight do you need it to be? [14:49] well, it doesnt reall matter, but i just want it to be fast [14:49] if you need something very lightweight, i might suggest xmms, but it's a little old school. [14:49] i will check it out [14:49] otherwise, exaile or quod-libet would provide a bit more functionality, but would be a little heavier. [14:49] still not as heavy as rhythmbox or banshee. [14:50] well, i have been using totem [14:50] and certainly not as heavy (on a gtk-based system) as amarok. [14:50] no, amarok wa very heavy when i tried it [14:50] would rhythmbox be lighter than totem? [14:51] um, on xubuntu rhythmbox tries to install a bunch of gnome stuff... rhythmbox would be heavier than totem. [14:52] oh ok [14:52] but totem (although it can play music) isn't really much of a music player. [14:53] no [14:53] its a bit useless [14:53] what does the universe and multiverse things in synaptic mean? [14:56] good question. there are 3 different 'levels' within the repositories. [14:56] main, universe, and multiverse [14:57] main is where all of the core stuff goes - this stuff is supported by canonical. [14:57] universe is supported by the community, but is still 'free as in freedom' software. [14:58] multiverse software still doesn't cost any money, but doesn't live up to the 'free as in freedom' status of the other software. it likely isn't fully open source. [14:58] stuff like mp3 support or binary drivers would be in multiverse. [15:00] oh i see, cool [15:01] hey, in exaile's track list, do you have to display albums? [15:01] if rather click an artist and see all songs [15:01] i dunno... :/ i don't really use exaile. sorry. [15:01] no worries [15:02] what do you use [15:02] if you'd like, there's an #exaile channel where you can ask those kinds of questions. [15:02] * AlexJP joins #exaile @P [15:03] lately i've been using songbird. it's not in the repos. you have to install it manually, but there are instructions on how to do it. it's still in beta, and isn't particularly lightweight. [15:03] i gotta run for now. best of luck to you. [15:03] see you mate === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [15:29] Hi, I have some weird power management issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28734/ [15:31] First time I installed Hardy on that computer it would lock up when running anything remotely demanding [15:31] in Gutsy no problem at all [15:32] that output from power is the only suspicious stuff I could find === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche === gaurdro_ is now known as gaurdro [17:16] hello [17:19] Hello, gillux [18:02] how to help xubuntu ? because my association use xubuntu www.defis.info [18:10] !seen vidd [18:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen vidd [18:59] Hi, I'm having issues with Hardy, the computer it's on freezes when playing a media file, loading a map in OpenArena or randomly in Wesnoth [19:00] K6-2 500, MVP3 chipset, 192MB RAM, Voodoo3 pci video card, SB 32 AWE ISA sound card [19:01] I get weird ACPI stuff like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12824/ [19:02] acpi=off option in grub doesn't solve anything, I've also tried turning off acpi and powernow services, no luck [19:07] PsynoKhi0: what's so weird with it? [19:10] TheSheep: with the pastebin output? [19:12] PsynoKhi0: yeah [19:26] http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/processor.html "(Note: C0 is not mentioned, it is the CPU "working" state)é [19:29] also the bus master activity is different... anyway Gutsy is fine, Hardy isn't and so far this is one of the very few leads I have [19:30] that and "DRIUnlock called when not locked" in Xorg.0.log [19:31] though I don't know if the latter happens in Gutsy too [19:33] hmm http://readlist.com/lists/vger.kernel.org/linux-kernel/91/456123.html ok the acpi stuff might not be relevant... [19:35] ok I don't care I just want a freaking solution now, got better stuff to do than waste a whole afternoon for stuff that still borks the same wat 3 months after release for no appearent reason [19:40] anyone use both soft raid 1 and lvm? [19:47] hope someone in here can help me out here.... I'm trying to use my laptop's built-in card reader, but it's not working. anyone know why? [19:54] great. outstanding help. [19:59] hello all... i just tried to use wubi [19:59] I get to the point where it says computing partitions.. it doesn't get past that screen [20:00] the progress bar is sitting at 100% [20:02] slashdot, what kind of card reader do you have? [20:02] can anyone help me with this issue [20:03] I'm not sure...I keep trying to look for it, but it doesn't show up. [20:03] so i can't tell you the name. [20:09] slashdot: use lshw [20:11] description: Computer [20:11] width: 32 bits [20:11] *-core [20:11] description: Motherboard [20:11] physical id: 0 [20:11] *-memory [20:11] description: System memory [20:11] physical id: 0 [20:11] hmmm [20:13] woops [20:28] slashdot can you help [20:29] why does wubi stall at the checking install - computer partitions section [21:27] Look at his crama! (https://launchpad.net/~starsheep-trooper) :-)) [21:30] i'm typing gnome-power-manager in terminal and nothing's coming up. [21:31] what's happening? [21:33] now it works X_X wow. sorry. === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [21:49] hows everybody doing today? [21:50] ok thans [21:50] except its night here [21:51] :) [21:52] I found a solution to a lot of complaint regarding power features in Xubuntu (tested on amd64, I don't know about i386) The gnome-screensaver program is not set to run at startup. without it, gnome power manager is useless. by adding the program to the autostart apps issues found in 6 threads that i have identified are fixed. I don't know if there is a way to roll out an update, but if there is, I think this would s [21:52] and good evening then!! [21:53] hehe [21:53] oops, this was meant for xubuntu-devel. Ill copy it over there real quick. [21:53] cool [21:54] well done btw [21:54] thanks. [21:54] hey does anyone know if its possible to install googleearth in xubuntu [21:54] is there a way to send out an update for this? It is just a matter of enabling an additional autostart app, but I think man users would just suffer [21:55] im just a n00b :) [21:55] oh [21:55] google medibuntu and activate that repository. [21:55] ty :) [21:55] google earth should then be available via synaptic. [22:27] hello, I'm looking for the md5 hash of the xubuntu 8.04.1 alternate ISO [22:28] Hi [22:28] ok, found it, but why it's not on the official page? [22:44] how can i prevent firefox to switch into the offline mode if i haven't a network connection? [22:45] i want to use firefox for a lokal web application [22:45] and i don't want to have to disable the offline mode every time [23:37] where can you find older ISO's from xubuntu 7.x? [23:38] cdimages.ubuntu.com [23:40] the medium is the same for ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu? [23:41] yup [23:41] thanks :)