vorian | evening | 01:02 |
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JontheEchidna | Oh hi, I was wondering how koffice was coming along. | 01:03 |
* JontheEchidna is just getting back himself | 01:03 | |
vorian | i havent looked at it since last night | 01:06 |
* vorian takes another look-see | 01:08 | |
vorian | JontheEchidna: I uploaded your plasma app today, you should have poked me about it | 01:09 |
JontheEchidna | Oh, plasmoid-am4rok? | 01:10 |
vorian | yes | 01:10 |
JontheEchidna | Oh, um, well thanks. ;) | 01:10 |
JontheEchidna | Did you get your system-status package uploaded? | 01:11 |
* JontheEchidna is quite happy with the number of plasmoids in Intrepid | 01:11 | |
vorian | yeah, a few days ago | 01:12 |
vorian | fo realz! keep an eye out for new ones | 01:12 |
jjesse__ | JontheEchidna: thanks for closing a lot of the bugs i was working on... i haven't had much time for follow up and work on kubuntu/kde stuff lately | 01:12 |
JontheEchidna | So far we've got plasmoid-weather, plasmoid-wifi, plasmoid-quickview, plasmoid-am4rok, and plasmoid-system-status | 01:12 |
jjesse__ | seriously thanks for taking the time | 01:12 |
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JontheEchidna | No problem. ;) | 01:12 |
* JontheEchidna is currently triaging kdebase-kde4 | 01:14 | |
JontheEchidna | Putting all the bugs that still apply in kdebase, and requesting infos on the ones that I can't reproduce | 01:14 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm, though now that I'm using konqueror as my browser that makes it less convenient to test Konqi crashes... | 01:16 |
JontheEchidna | Where did the ability to add an affected package in LP go? | 01:20 |
jjesse | it disappeared in the wonderful upgrade to the new look and feel | 01:25 |
JontheEchidna | Actually | 01:26 |
JontheEchidna | if you change the source package in the url | 01:26 |
JontheEchidna | and hit enter | 01:27 |
JontheEchidna | It'll say that this bug isn't in the source package, and asks you if you want to open it there too | 01:27 |
gnomefreak | what do i need to set my terminal to to view a .so file without it looksing like @@@@ all over it? | 01:42 |
gnomefreak | ok gedit cant open it :( | 01:46 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: I thinks "also affects distribution"? | 02:36 |
JontheEchidna | Oh hey, it is | 02:36 |
yuriy | evening all | 02:37 |
JontheEchidna | vorian: plasmoid-system-status has a new upstream release | 02:43 |
vorian | eek | 02:43 |
vorian | it's not even out of new yet! | 02:43 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 02:43 |
vorian | apachelogger: when you have a moment http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom | 04:59 |
Riddell | seele: nice knm review | 08:30 |
kduser | Going though it now :-) | 08:38 |
Wubbbi | good morning everyone :D | 08:50 |
* kduser waves | 08:54 | |
Wubbbi | I have got a Crash on Intrepid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28930/ Kubuntu or KDE bug? | 08:54 |
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Wubbbi | seems that everyone is still sleeping xD | 10:17 |
Riddell | I expect that's an upstream crash | 10:24 |
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Wubbbi | Well i have reported it to #plasma and they have reported it ( as a Bug report ) to kde :) so my part is done :D | 10:25 |
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Wubbbi | I get a crash, when I try to watch Videos ( With Xine ) on Firefox. But the only massage I get is "Segmentation fault". Very strange. How to debug that? Terminal wont help | 11:15 |
Wubbbi | on Konqueror it crashs too. So that is a Xine bug ( libxine 1.1.14-1ubuntu1 ) on Intrepid | 11:19 |
Wubbbi | Konqueror shows me that: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28952/ | 11:20 |
Wubbbi | any idea? | 11:20 |
nixternal | mornin' | 12:43 |
JontheEchidna | mornin' | 12:46 |
Riddell | my inbox tells me that JontheEchidna wants to be a member | 12:47 |
Riddell | we should convene the council for the solem and serious decision making process | 12:47 |
ryanakca | Riddell: I'm guessing there wouldn't be any problem if Edubuntu wanted to use our Drupal theme? | 12:49 |
Riddell | ryanakca: nope | 12:51 |
Riddell | the theme should be put under some suitable free licence | 12:51 |
* ryanakca nods, I'm not too sure what newz released it under | 12:51 | |
nixternal | Riddell: we should setup up a meeting for sometime soon | 12:51 |
jussi01 | Riddell: just so you know - that is me who asked for facebook friendship... (approval would be nice) :D | 12:51 |
Nightrose | Riddell: on hardy since 4.1 RC 1 launching kde 3 programs launches the kde 4 version instead | 12:54 |
Nightrose | launching from kickoff and krunner | 12:54 |
Nightrose | patch got lost? | 12:54 |
* txwikinger wonders why Nightrose sends patches by mail :D | 12:56 | |
Nightrose | hmmm? | 12:56 |
txwikinger | well.. the mail often loses things :D | 12:56 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: Also, looking for sponsorship for bug 248792 | 12:56 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 248792 in kdenetwork "Binary package knewsticker should be renamed to plasmoid-knewsticker" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248792 | 12:56 |
Nightrose | ;-) | 12:57 |
* nixternal heads to work | 13:02 | |
* Riddell lunches, back soon | 13:14 | |
smarter | all plasmoids should be named plasmoid-foo now? | 13:27 |
JontheEchidna | Yes plz | 13:27 |
JontheEchidna | Or that's the consensus that vorian, apachelogger and I came to | 13:28 |
smarter | ;) | 13:28 |
smarter | I'll fill a bug for my kepas package then | 13:28 |
smarter | but we should ask Debian first imho | 13:28 |
smarter | are they already packaging applets? | 13:28 |
JontheEchidna | Don't know | 13:29 |
JontheEchidna | Does debian's bug database even have a web interface? | 13:29 |
JontheEchidna | for reporting? | 13:29 |
smarter | nop | 13:30 |
smarter | but asks in #debian-qt-kde@irc.oftc.net | 13:30 |
* JontheEchidna also has to go for now | 13:30 | |
seele | Riddell: thx | 13:52 |
Wubbbi | hello :D | 14:29 |
mooper | ello, I have a bit of a whine about firefox intergration if anyones interested | 14:43 |
Hobbsee | mooper: don't whine. use that energy to start putting forth actual patches to fix it. | 14:48 |
Hobbsee | there's already a spec about it, if you're interested - has been for a while. | 14:49 |
Riddell | trouble with firefox is we tend to use konqueror, and the firefox guys tend not to use KDE | 14:54 |
Riddell | but the spec is on their side not ours :) | 14:54 |
Hobbsee | making firefox useful for those who *do* use it with kubuntu would be very useful, though | 14:54 |
Riddell | yep | 15:00 |
seezer | can i somehow find out which compilation flags had been used on compilation of binary packages? | 15:22 |
seezer | or what I'm really interested in: do qt(4) packages get build with QT_NO_(DEBUG|WARNING)_OUTPUT? | 15:23 |
yuriy | seezer: download the source for a package (apt-get source) and look at the debian/rules file | 15:27 |
seezer | yuriy: ah ok - so what's not in the rules file isn't called from somewhere else? alright then, thanks | 15:28 |
seezer | or do those cdbs files contain anything like that? | 15:30 |
mooper | Riddell: Hobbsee: I dont think I have the skills to do anything usfulll | 15:34 |
mooper | where is the spec? | 15:34 |
Riddell | seezer: nothing shows up grepping the build log for OUTPUT | 15:40 |
Riddell | mooper: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/firefox-kde-integration-intrepid | 15:40 |
Riddell | "Assignee: None" | 15:40 |
Riddell | ah well | 15:40 |
seezer | Riddell: nice, thank you | 15:40 |
smarter | IIRC someone is working on a Qt frontend for Firefox | 15:42 |
mooper | Intrepid? | 16:00 |
mooper | Iguana? | 16:00 |
mooper | Ibex? | 16:00 |
mooper | Iceland Scallop | 16:00 |
Riddell | smarter: only the fifth such project to do that :) | 16:06 |
mooper | Riddel: sadly, thats way beyond my skill level | 16:07 |
mooper | which is only just enough for making a good cup of tea | 16:07 |
smarter | Riddell: true :p | 16:08 |
smarter | that reminds me, I should update the webkitkde package with a new snapshot | 16:08 |
Riddell | smarter: I e-mailed Urs the SoC student working on it, he doesn't think it'll be good enough for intrepid unfortunately | 16:15 |
smarter | oh :/ | 16:16 |
smarter | we'll stick with khtml for the moment then, it's not that bad :p | 16:16 |
Riddell | smarter: but do take new snapshots when you get time and there's notable changes | 16:21 |
smarter | Riddell: I'll do, once I'll be a MOTU ;) | 16:22 |
smarter | s/once/when/ | 16:22 |
smarter | well, maybe once is appropriate in this context, don't know :P | 16:22 |
smarter | bug #250551 << could someone please upload my fix? | 16:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 250551 in kvpm "FTBFS with 0.4.5b-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250551 | 16:41 |
smarter | Riddell maybe? ;) ^ | 16:46 |
Riddell | ok | 16:47 |
smarter | thanks | 16:48 |
Riddell | smarter: uploaded, mind and send the change to upstream | 16:55 |
smarter | that's in my TODO list ;) | 16:55 |
* Arby wanders in looking for things to work on | 17:12 | |
Arby | Riddell: do we have things that need packaging? | 17:16 |
Riddell | Arby: there's a ktorrent merge on dholbach's sponsoring list | 17:17 |
Arby | ok I'll look into it, is this a new list of some kind? | 17:17 |
Riddell | webpage | 17:17 |
Riddell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/ | 17:18 |
Riddell | it's for ktorrent-kde4 but we use ktorrent as the package name now so dunno if it's needed or not | 17:18 |
Arby | I'll look | 17:18 |
Half-Left | Hello, can I speak to a packager who does KDE4? | 17:24 |
Riddell | that'll be us | 17:26 |
Half-Left | hi, I heard you package svg's with the Oxygen icons? | 17:26 |
Riddell | seems so, I should probably remove them to make some CD space | 17:27 |
Half-Left | ok but you shouldn't because they are suorces only and will save you lots of bandwith | 17:28 |
Arby | Riddell: short summary, ktorrent 3.1.1 is released, intrepid has 3.1~rc1, hardy has 3.0.1 | 17:29 |
Arby | Riddell: I assume we want intrepid updated, do we want 3.1.1 backported to hardy as well? | 17:30 |
Riddell | Arby: yes we want intrepid updated, ktorrent-kde4 source package should be removed, I don't use backports so I can't say I'm fussed :) | 17:31 |
Riddell | Half-Left: looks like we just install usr/share/icons/oxygen/* in kdebase-runtime currently | 17:31 |
Riddell | Half-Left: so not installing the .svgz files would be good | 17:31 |
Riddell | Half-Left: what's your interest? | 17:32 |
Half-Left | I do artwork for KDE4 | 17:32 |
Riddell | bling bling | 17:32 |
Half-Left | 4.2 actaully | 17:32 |
Arby | Riddell: I'll do intrepid first. How do I get ktorrent-kde4 removed, use 'Replaces' in debian/control? | 17:32 |
Riddell | Arby: replaces and conflicts yes, and file a bug on ktorrent-kde4 asking for removal subscribing ubuntu-archive | 17:33 |
Arby | Riddell: thanks | 17:33 |
Riddell | Half-Left: do you know who added all the new mouse themes to 4.1? | 17:33 |
Half-Left | nope | 17:34 |
Half-Left | oh | 17:34 |
Half-Left | yes | 17:34 |
Half-Left | Think it was Ruphy or pinheiro | 17:34 |
toma | yeah, upstream | 17:35 |
Riddell | they seem a bit excessive for kdebase, for the same space reasons | 17:37 |
toma | splitting them off to something like oxygen-cursors makes sense | 17:38 |
jtechidna | By the way, I'm backporting kdebindings-kde4 for the hardy ppa | 17:39 |
Riddell | that's what I did with the wallpapers | 17:39 |
Riddell | jtechidna: good luck! | 17:39 |
Riddell | jtechidna: where did you get to with koffice? | 17:39 |
Riddell | rediscovering kdeartwork would be good though | 17:40 |
jtechidna | We fixed the FTBFS and ran into a few more which we also fixed | 17:40 |
jtechidna | But it takes 6 hrs to build on my computer so vorian is doing the testbuildign | 17:40 |
Riddell | mm, it's a beast to build | 17:40 |
jtechidna | and I don't know if the latest works built yet | 17:40 |
jtechidna | *builds | 17:40 |
Riddell | jtechidna: you mean kde4bindings ? | 17:40 |
jtechidna | koffice2 | 17:41 |
jtechidna | It took 15 mins for it to get to 3% built on my computer | 17:41 |
jtechidna | vorian's computer can do it in an hour | 17:41 |
jtechidna | So he's doing the testbuilding | 17:41 |
Riddell | right, I changed the subject | 17:41 |
Riddell | jtechidna: you mean kde4bindings rather than kdebindings-kde4 ? | 17:42 |
jtechidna | right | 17:42 |
Riddell | good good | 17:42 |
ryanakca | Could someone look at 233972 please? | 17:43 |
ryanakca | bug 233972 , unsure if I merged it properly | 17:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 233972 in kde-style-qtcurve "Please merge kde-style-qtcurve 0.55.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233972 | 17:43 |
Riddell | ryanakca: looking | 17:46 |
Riddell | ryanakca: looks groovy, uploading | 17:46 |
ryanakca | Riddell: I'm pointing to the ``skipping'' patch part... | 17:47 |
ryanakca | or is that just during the debian/rules clean section, it notices that it isn't applied, so skips unapplying it? (I'm not too familiar with just plain patch) | 17:48 |
Riddell | ryanakca: yes that's fine | 17:52 |
ryanakca | ok, thanks :) | 17:52 |
ryanakca | Riddell: also, feel free to tweak the sentence describing the kubuntuway forums | 17:55 |
Riddell | "yet another forum" | 17:57 |
ryanakca | done. Also, how hard would it be to patch out the logout dialog options, where could I get the sources to do so, and what options need to be patched out? I'm guessing this is for KDE4? | 17:59 |
Riddell | ryanakca: yes KDE 4 | 18:09 |
Riddell | not sure how hard, it depends if the menu just calls "logout dialog" or if it calls "shutdown" or "restart" or the specific option | 18:09 |
Riddell | I think the code is shutdowndlg.cpp from ksmserver | 18:10 |
Riddell | it would also be worth investigating why upstream hasn't got it showing only the one option as picked from the kmenu | 18:11 |
* ryanakca nods | 18:12 | |
Riddell | ryanakca: probably best remove the "yet", it's a bit too derogitory | 18:14 |
* ryanakca switches it back | 18:15 | |
toma | opensuse shows only the option selected from the kmenu | 18:15 |
apachelogger | Oo | 18:25 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom I am wondering what that thing is doing | 18:25 |
apachelogger | oh | 18:25 |
apachelogger | re | 18:25 |
apachelogger | btw | 18:25 |
apachelogger | ;-) | 18:25 |
Nightrose | haha | 18:25 |
Nightrose | yea yea... | 18:25 |
apachelogger | hm | 18:27 |
apachelogger | actually quite boring | 18:27 |
apachelogger | vorian: typo: Description: immage manipulation tool | 18:27 |
apachelogger | vore: line 6 in control has a trailing whitespace which makes it exceed 80 characters :P | 18:35 |
apachelogger | vorian even | 18:39 |
apachelogger | vore: sorry | 18:39 |
apachelogger | vorian: in the manpage: for the \fBKubuntu GNU/Linux\fP system. ---- please use 'the Kubuntu system' since that is the official naming | 18:40 |
jtechidna | PyKDE sorta takes a long time to build | 18:41 |
* jtechidna runs off to do other things | 18:41 | |
apachelogger | jtechidna: dude, you have no idea how long all of kdebindings would take :S | 18:42 |
apachelogger | vorian: and please tell upstream that DocPath in the desktop file should be X-KDE-DocPath, that Terminal=0 should use a boolean and the genericname is _far too_ generic | 18:46 |
DRebellion | apachelogger, could I ask you something about posterazor? | 18:50 |
apachelogger | DRebellion: I don't even know what that is, but you can certainly ask me ;-) | 18:50 |
apachelogger | smarter: archived kvpm ppa1 upload to revu | 18:51 |
apachelogger | smarter: what's the status of foxkit? | 18:51 |
apachelogger | DRebellion: btw, what is the status of monkeystudio? | 18:53 |
DRebellion | apachelogger, heh, it's another package i'm working on. The current version released on the website is 1.5, however this has a problem with gcc-4.3. The upstream developer has fixed it in a version called 1.5.1, however he has not been able to test the new package under os x yet (only win32 and linux). He has given me a link to the new, unreleased source package, http://www.casaportale.de/lagerraum/PosteRazor-1.5.1-Source.zip , which | 18:54 |
DRebellion | I have prepared and builds fine. Can I upload that package, or should I wait (it's been a couple of weeks) for it to be released after mac testing? | 18:54 |
DRebellion | apachelogger, the package is ready, but the current release fails to build under amd64. | 18:54 |
DRebellion | upstream says the dev branch works, but i can't test | 18:54 |
DRebellion | also, the dev branch uses a debugging binary, etc, other oddities, etc. | 18:55 |
DRebellion | so I am waiting for the next full release. | 18:55 |
apachelogger | technically you will have to wait for the official release | 18:55 |
DRebellion | =( | 18:55 |
apachelogger | upstream could just release the source | 18:55 |
DRebellion | ok | 18:55 |
apachelogger | and if it doesn't work on osx | 18:55 |
apachelogger | push 1.5.2 and skip the .1 release for osx | 18:56 |
apachelogger | you might suggest that | 18:56 |
DRebellion | I will bug upstream and ask them to do a release for win32 and linux only then. | 18:56 |
DRebellion | s/them/him :P | 18:56 |
apachelogger | ...or just don't tell anyone that it isn't official released, maybe none notices ;-) | 18:56 |
DRebellion | hehe | 18:56 |
apachelogger | vorian: status of kio-ftps? | 18:57 |
smarter | hey apachelogger | 18:58 |
* apachelogger waves to smarter | 18:59 | |
smarter | apachelogger: yeah, sorry for the upload to revu | 18:59 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: archiving qtcurve on revu | 19:00 |
smarter | I've not touched foxkit for sometimes now, I'll probably finish it soon, but first I've to make that why-I-think-I-should-be-a-motu page | 19:00 |
* jtechidna fears for the amount of time kdebindings will take' | 19:01 | |
smarter | jtechidna: a lot | 19:01 |
jtechidna | Hmm, it's up to PyQT4 now | 19:01 |
jtechidna | *Qt | 19:01 |
jtechidna | Bah, python plasmoids won't be supported until 4.2 is released | 19:05 |
jtechidna | well, support will come in the pre-releases | 19:06 |
* jtechidna sighs -_- | 19:06 | |
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* apachelogger is singing ruby ruby ruby | 19:06 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did I upload konq-plugins yet? | 19:11 |
JontheEchidna | Don't think so; did you ever get the email? I got a reutrn message saying that delivery was delayed or somethign | 19:19 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: ^ | 19:19 |
apachelogger | oh well | 19:20 |
apachelogger | I just hope you didn't break anything :P | 19:20 |
* apachelogger uploads | 19:20 | |
* JontheEchidna never figured out how he was supposed to use them | 19:20 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: konqueror -> tools | 19:22 |
apachelogger | or settings -> configure extensions to activate/deacitvate them | 19:22 |
apachelogger | depends alot on the plugin really | 19:22 |
* JontheEchidna can only see a Text-to-speech one | 19:23 | |
* JontheEchidna hopes that isn't bad | 19:23 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you actually install any plugin? :P | 19:25 |
JontheEchidna | I installed the debs that debuild spit out | 19:26 |
JontheEchidna | all of 'em | 19:27 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe you use the wrong cdbs again? ;-) | 19:34 |
JontheEchidna | ;) | 19:35 |
Arby | Riddell: ktorrent update done, files are on lichts | 19:42 |
Arby | is the backport worth doing? | 19:43 |
JontheEchidna | does it fix the crash on exit? | 19:43 |
JontheEchidna | If it does, the backport would fix a crash. :P | 19:44 |
Arby | what crash on exit? | 19:44 |
JontheEchidna | KTorrent 3.0.1 crashes on exit in Hardy | 19:44 |
Arby | ok let me check the changelog | 19:44 |
JontheEchidna | http://saroengels.blogspot.com/2008/07/sweet-dreams.html <- Plasma on windows | 19:45 |
Riddell | Arby: there's no .orig .dsc .diff.gz on lichts | 19:46 |
Arby | hmm, odd | 19:46 |
Riddell | oh, wiat | 19:48 |
JontheEchidna | Bah, kde4bindings ftbfs | 19:50 |
JontheEchidna | missing files.... | 19:50 |
JontheEchidna | Oh, I guess I wasn't supposed to /usr/lib/kde4 that one | 19:51 |
JontheEchidna | debuild -nc will make it not do a make clean, correct? | 19:53 |
Riddell | yes | 19:53 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: fix it then run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list0missing | 19:54 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: fix it then run dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing | 19:54 |
Riddell | repeat until it doesn't complain then debuild -nc | 19:54 |
JontheEchidna | Woo, that was the only one | 19:56 |
Arby | JontheEchidna: there's nothing obvious here about fixing a crash on exit | 19:56 |
JontheEchidna | hmm... | 19:56 |
Arby | did you have a specific bug number | 19:56 |
Arby | brb | 19:56 |
JontheEchidna | just a second | 19:57 |
JontheEchidna | Arby: bug 227932 | 19:58 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 227932 in ktorrent-kde4 "Ktorrent-kde4 crashes after shutdown of closing" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227932 | 19:58 |
Arby | JontheEchidna: thanks | 19:59 |
* JontheEchidna injects humor: | 19:59 | |
JontheEchidna | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/i-can-fix-thiz-sorta.jpg | 19:59 |
JontheEchidna | (Disclaimer, I probably couldn't fix that crash :P) | 20:00 |
Arby | :) | 20:02 |
JontheEchidna | and kde4bindings builds! | 20:05 |
JontheEchidna | :D | 20:05 |
Nightrose | jcastro: hey :) just gone through brainstorm again and there are a lot of amarok ideas that can be closed as wontfix basically or could use an upstream comment - can you get me admin rights to do that? | 20:06 |
Nightrose | or is that not possible yet? | 20:06 |
jcastro | Nightrose: I can't personally give you admin rights, but nand or stgraber can | 20:06 |
jcastro | I think nand is on holiday though | 20:06 |
Nightrose | ok | 20:07 |
Nightrose | thx | 20:07 |
jcastro | no worries, thanks for looking after them! | 20:07 |
Nightrose | :) | 20:07 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: can I send kde4bindings 4.0.98~hardy~ppa1 over to you? | 20:09 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: sure | 20:10 |
Arby | JontheEchidna: no real idea whether 3.1.1 fixes that bug or not | 20:10 |
Arby | best solution is probably to do the backport and tet to find out | 20:10 |
Arby | s/tet/test/ | 20:10 |
* JontheEchidna agrees | 20:10 | |
Wubbbi | hello to everyone :D | 20:10 |
JontheEchidna | Hi | 20:12 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna: is there something easy to fix? I want to learn more :D. Now I know hoe to creat a gpg and how the get a source and how to edit a file :D | 20:13 |
* JontheEchidna can't think of anything | 20:13 | |
JontheEchidna | But that's good I guess :P | 20:13 |
Wubbbi | guess what? | 20:13 |
JontheEchidna | what? | 20:13 |
Wubbbi | ohhh ... I have read wrong xD sorry | 20:14 |
yuriy | Wubbbi: look at bugs and see what there is you can fix! | 20:19 |
Wubbbi | hihi ^^ | 20:19 |
yuriy | Wubbbi: maybe start with bugs tagged bitesize or packaging | 20:20 |
Wubbbi | how to searc for bug? It's a bit difficult on Launchpad :/ | 20:20 |
Wubbbi | search | 20:20 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna: can I use created GPG-Keys always or just one time? | 20:22 |
JontheEchidna | always | 20:22 |
Wubbbi | ahhh ok good to know :) | 20:22 |
Wubbbi | thx | 20:23 |
yuriy | Wubbbi: go to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and go to the advanced search. there you can put in keywords, what status you want, and what tags you want | 20:24 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent | 20:27 |
Wubbbi | yuriy: ahhh thank you :D | 20:32 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm, I should probably backport kdeutils and kdesdk next | 20:34 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: please add libzip-dev to kdeutils | 20:38 |
apachelogger | otherwise ark doesn't support zippy files | 20:38 |
Arby | if I'm backporting ktorrent3.1.1 to hardy should I name the package ktorrent or ktorrent-kde4? | 20:39 |
Wubbbi | apachelogger: This was I bug, I had today too :) | 20:39 |
apachelogger | Arby: -kde4 | 20:40 |
Arby | thanks | 20:40 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bindings uploaded | 20:41 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D | 20:42 |
Arby | ktorrent3.1.1/debian has gained several files that don't exist in 3.0.x /debian | 20:50 |
Arby | is it safe to just copy those files across | 20:51 |
Arby | or is that likely to break things | 20:51 |
Arby | for example .install .lintian .postinst.debhelper | 20:51 |
Arby | quite a few actually | 20:51 |
smarter | apachelogger: I've finally updated my wiki page :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuillaumeMartres | 20:59 |
* Wubbbi klapps his hands for smarter | 20:59 | |
Wubbbi | :D | 20:59 |
smarter | :) | 21:00 |
Wubbbi | smarter: You are just 15 years old? oO .. so younger than me ^^ | 21:01 |
apachelogger | Arby: depends on the files' content really | 21:02 |
apachelogger | .lintian only overrides lintian overrides for example | 21:02 |
apachelogger | .install probably needs path changes | 21:02 |
apachelogger | smarter: https://edge.launchpad.net/~smarter/+packages is changing | 21:03 |
Arby | apachelogger: does it seem reasonable to copy them and see what debuild complains about? | 21:03 |
apachelogger | smarter: like when someone uploads a newer version to intrepid the packages will disappear | 21:03 |
apachelogger | smarter: so I suggest to actually protocol all your work | 21:04 |
smarter | apachelogger: ok | 21:04 |
apachelogger | Arby: if you can upload to the ppa -> no, if you can't -> yes ;-) | 21:04 |
Arby | I can't so I'll go with that option | 21:05 |
apachelogger | Arby: I think only the .install files should require changes | 21:05 |
apachelogger | adding /usr/lib/kde4/ as prefix to everything | 21:05 |
Arby | apachelogger: I was expecting those | 21:05 |
Arby | also I'm confused by the debian changelogs, let me pastebin | 21:06 |
* apachelogger is updating the kde.org content | 21:06 | |
apachelogger | Arby: is there already a backport? | 21:06 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna seems to sleep xD | 21:08 |
Arby | apachelogger: no, newest in hardy is 3.0.1, I'm working on 3.1.1 | 21:08 |
apachelogger | Arby: yeah | 21:09 |
apachelogger | just copy the official changes since 3.0.1 at the beginning of the new backport | 21:09 |
apachelogger | and add your backport entry | 21:09 |
Arby | ok | 21:10 |
* JontheEchidna was away | 21:11 | |
Wubbbi | hihi ^ | 21:11 |
Wubbbi | ^ | 21:11 |
* JontheEchidna won't be going to sleep for another 6 hours :P | 21:11 | |
Wubbbi | lol | 21:11 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D | 21:12 |
JontheEchidna | That's not all that has to be done | 21:13 |
Arby | apachelogger: does this look ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/29092/ | 21:13 |
Wubbbi | JontheEchidna: :( | 21:13 |
apachelogger | Arby: sure | 21:14 |
Arby | thanks | 21:14 |
apachelogger | it doesn't really matter all that much for the ppa ;-) | 21:14 |
Arby | I still prefer to do it right so that I understand when it does matter :) | 21:14 |
Wubbbi | Well If i have nothing to do, let me go to bed ... Its 22:15 o'clock ^^ see you tomorw :D | 21:16 |
Wubbbi | tomorow | 21:16 |
Wubbbi | I'm very tired | 21:16 |
JontheEchidna | 16:16 here | 21:16 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh crap, I think I know why I can't find any of the plugins | 21:25 |
JontheEchidna | I forgot to rename the .install files | 21:25 |
apachelogger | *thumbsup* | 21:25 |
apachelogger | :P | 21:25 |
apachelogger | "KDE is a very big project" or "KDE is a very large project"? | 21:27 |
JontheEchidna | Both work, afaik. But I think the latter is more "proper". | 21:27 |
JontheEchidna | you could even go with "KDE is a rather expansive project" | 21:28 |
apachelogger | simplified english | 21:28 |
raphink_ | "KDE is a big bunch of code" | 21:28 |
JontheEchidna | "a series of tubes" | 21:28 |
apachelogger | tubes ftw | 21:28 |
raphink_ | "KDE is a big stuff with tons of programs" | 21:30 |
Daskreech | KDE is a group of three letters. Please enjoy | 21:32 |
* Arby is having problems with patches | 21:41 | |
Arby | ktorrent backport fails to build with http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/ | 21:41 |
smarter | trying to stop smoking? :} | 21:42 |
Arby | the patch is against 3.1.1 and doesn't exist in 3.0.1 | 21:42 |
Arby | :P | 21:42 |
Arby | I have no idea how to deal with that | 21:42 |
smarter | apachelogger: updated my wiki page, again :P | 21:42 |
apachelogger | smarter: perfect | 21:45 |
apachelogger | smarter: now you just need some wicked photo so that we can buy you a coke when meeting :-P | 21:46 |
smarter | I'll try to find one ;) | 21:46 |
smarter | so, what is the process to become a master of da universe now? | 21:47 |
apachelogger | that is a very good question | 21:47 |
* apachelogger is totally confused by the new contributors thingy | 21:47 | |
* JontheEchidna just does what he keeps doing | 21:47 | |
apachelogger | but as I understand it - first you need to apply as ubuntu contributor | 21:47 |
smarter | launchpad group? | 21:48 |
apachelogger | which is basically yet another form of ubuntu membership | 21:48 |
apachelogger | smarter: motu-council | 21:48 |
JontheEchidna | Question: to autostart .destkop files get /usr/lib/kde4'd? | 21:48 |
apachelogger | and the fact that it is basically an ubuntu membership makes we wonder whether one has to apply for that thing even if already approved as ubuntu member | 21:48 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: everything | 21:49 |
apachelogger | \sh: are you around? | 21:49 |
JontheEchidna | not application .deskotp files | 21:49 |
smarter | hmm | 21:49 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: every file | 21:49 |
apachelogger | smarter: best thing is to ask in ubuntu-motu | 21:49 |
apachelogger | but I think you need to apply for contributor | 21:50 |
apachelogger | then contribute | 21:50 |
apachelogger | and then become motu | 21:50 |
smarter | apachelogger: I'll ask that tomorrow, it's late here (: | 21:50 |
apachelogger | tell me about it :P | 21:50 |
smarter | g'night everybody | 21:50 |
apachelogger | nini smarter | 21:50 |
jpds | bonsoir smarter | 21:51 |
Arby | apachelogger: if it's not too late could you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/ | 21:51 |
Arby | I'm confused by this patch | 21:51 |
Arby | it's new in 3.1.1 and it's blocking this backport from building | 21:52 |
Arby | and I can't find anything in the changelog to say what it actually does | 21:52 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent you new konq-plugins | 21:53 |
Arby | starting to think this may be beyond my skills :( | 21:54 |
apachelogger | Arby: take a look at the patch and at the patched files | 21:57 |
apachelogger | maybe it got applied upstream | 21:58 |
apachelogger | though | 21:58 |
apachelogger | how did it apply | 21:58 |
apachelogger | very strange issue I have to say | 21:58 |
Arby | what do you mean by how did it apply? | 21:58 |
Arby | it's probably my fault, there's quite a lot of difference in /debian between 3.0.1 and 3.1.1 | 21:59 |
apachelogger | Arby: well, just get a clean source tree (i.e. extact the orig tarball again) and copy your debian/ in | 22:00 |
apachelogger | then it should be working | 22:00 |
Arby | apachelogger: good call, somewhere between beta and final the patch got rolled into the main source | 22:02 |
Arby | should have thought of that | 22:02 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: forgot I was still debuilding before sending the new konq-plugins, lol | 22:05 |
* JontheEchidna did something wrong... | 22:05 | |
* apachelogger thinks that JontheEchidna needs upload rights to the ppa to get that special feeling when users come after one because everything is broken :P | 22:07 | |
JontheEchidna | what the heck? | 22:07 |
JontheEchidna | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory | 22:07 |
JontheEchidna | jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/konqplugins-hardy/konq-plugins-kde4-4.1~svn831460$ dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing | 22:07 |
JontheEchidna | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory | 22:07 |
JontheEchidna | Ooh, I see, extra / | 22:07 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: correct cdbs? | 22:07 |
apachelogger | not the extra / it is | 22:07 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, nevermind | 22:08 |
* JontheEchidna has correct cdbs | 22:08 | |
Riddell | Arby: ktorrent uploaded thanks, please close that bug on the sponsoring bit saying thanks for his contribution | 22:08 |
Arby | Riddell: thanks for uploading | 22:09 |
Arby | Riddell: do you still want me to file a bug about removing ktorrent-kde4? | 22:09 |
Riddell | Arby: oh aye please. my archive day tomorrow so I'll do that and some more | 22:10 |
apachelogger | the some more is hopefully amarok-kde4 ;-) | 22:11 |
apachelogger | alpha2 coming up | 22:11 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/project.php | 22:11 |
* JontheEchidna is 100% sure he has correct cdbs, but is still running into the ftbfs | 22:12 | |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: just comment out that install line | 22:12 |
Nightrose | apachelogger++ | 22:12 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: once it built run make -f debian/rules list-missing | 22:12 |
Arby | Riddell: actually, does the sponsoring bug count as closed, the users experiencing it are on hardy not intrepid | 22:13 |
Arby | so unless I can make this backport build the fix won't reach them | 22:13 |
Arby | I'm sure you're right, just trying to understand | 22:13 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: did you do any pushing on accessibility yet? | 22:14 |
Nightrose | nope | 22:14 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm, looks like kdeutils might be a long builder too | 22:14 |
apachelogger | Arby: grab the intrepid source and try to build it in hardy-backports enabled chroot | 22:15 |
apachelogger | if it builds against kdelibs 4.0.x we can do a hardy-backports backport | 22:16 |
apachelogger | otherwise we have to go with the kde4 ppa | 22:16 |
* JontheEchidna notes that 4.1 final is tagged tomorrow. | 22:16 | |
apachelogger | hm | 22:16 |
Arby | apachelogger: ok, I think I'm going to have start over anyway, I've made a mess of this | 22:17 |
apachelogger | ^_^ | 22:17 |
JontheEchidna | Is 4.1 going to Hardy backports? | 22:17 |
apachelogger | ah right, we can't do an officlal backpot anyway | 22:17 |
apachelogger | *backport | 22:17 |
JontheEchidna | oh well | 22:18 |
* JontheEchidna hopes Intrepid becomes stable-ish soon | 22:19 | |
apachelogger | it isn't? | 22:19 |
JontheEchidna | ...in regards to 3D and proprietary drivers | 22:20 |
* JontheEchidna hugs KWin | 22:20 | |
apachelogger | hm | 22:20 |
apachelogger | if | 22:20 |
apachelogger | they would use that dkms thingy from dell | 22:20 |
apachelogger | there wouldn't be any problem | 22:20 |
JontheEchidna | dkms? | 22:20 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: dynamic kernel module support | 22:21 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: http://linux.dell.com/projects.shtml#dkms | 22:21 |
JontheEchidna | sounds... dynamic! | 22:21 |
sebas | apachelogger: if the proprietary drivers actually work with new xorg and kernel, dkms would work as well | 22:21 |
Arby | Riddell: before I do the subscription, do you need more info than this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent-kde4/+bug/250626 | 22:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New] | 22:21 |
* sebas is just trying newest ati w/ 2.6.26 | 22:21 | |
apachelogger | sebas: nvidia works ;-) | 22:21 |
apachelogger | and even then... we all got an intel onboard chip, right? ;-) | 22:22 |
sebas | apachelogger: not with kwin though :) | 22:22 |
sebas | apachelogger: we do, users don't. | 22:22 |
sebas | As a matter of fact, I don't. | 22:22 |
apachelogger | users don't use itnrepid :P | 22:22 |
apachelogger | *intrepid | 22:23 |
sebas | that leaves only me :'/ | 22:23 |
apachelogger | :( | 22:23 |
* apachelogger hands sebas a beer | 22:23 | |
apachelogger | also provides fancy graphics ;-) | 22:23 |
JontheEchidna | Actually KWin works great with my GeForce 4 MX 440 | 22:23 |
JontheEchidna | ironic, isn't it? | 22:23 |
ScottK-laptop | Arby: Did you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive?highlight=%28CategoryUbuntuDevelopment%29#head-6a4a4d2ad0cc004c6199f465539e3bbc2239291e | 22:23 |
sebas | apachelogger: lsd works better with fancy graphics, or so I've heard. | 22:24 |
apachelogger | I am quite sure beer tastes better though | 22:24 |
sebas | JontheEchidna: no signs of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16538 ? | 22:24 |
ubottu | Freedesktop bug 16538 in Driver/nVidia (proprietary) "Slow resizing of windows in kwin from KDE4" [Normal,New] | 22:24 |
Arby | ScottK-laptop: no I filed it because I was asked to, reading now. | 22:24 |
sebas | Yeah, but you usually don't drink a pint of lsd | 22:24 |
sebas | So that's moot. | 22:25 |
sebas | And they're not mutually exclusive anyway | 22:25 |
apachelogger | true | 22:25 |
JontheEchidna | sebas: half a second max | 22:25 |
sebas | what exactly, JontheEchidna? | 22:25 |
sebas | Vdesktopswitching? | 22:25 |
sebas | Or resizing konsole? | 22:25 |
sebas | And is that the legacy driver or the 'real' one? | 22:26 |
JontheEchidna | resizing konsole | 22:26 |
sebas | That's faster than my 7600gs | 22:26 |
JontheEchidna | nvidia-glx which is the 90.x | 22:26 |
JontheEchidna | 96.43.05 | 22:26 |
JontheEchidna | Bet you're envious of my smokin' card. :P | 22:27 |
* JontheEchidna never thought he'd see the day where his videocard actually was 5 times faster than anybody else's | 22:30 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yay, all files included now | 22:31 |
JontheEchidna | ...and the bookmarks show up! | 22:31 |
JontheEchidna | *extenstoins | 22:32 |
Arby | ScottK-laptop: for this line, mention to remove both source and all binaries | 22:32 |
Arby | if we remove the source do we also have to remove the binaries? | 22:33 |
ScottK-laptop | Arby: If you want binary packages removed, you need to list them. | 22:33 |
ScottK-laptop | Depends on if the same binary is being built from another source packages now. | 22:33 |
* JontheEchidna hugs google searchbar | 22:34 | |
Arby | the reason for the removal is that ktorrent-kde4 becomes ktorrent in intrepid | 22:34 |
Arby | so I guess the answer is yes | 22:34 |
Arby | both binary and source package names have changed | 22:34 |
Arby | ScottK-laptop: does this look acceptable to you now? bug 250626 | 22:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250626 | 22:39 |
* ScottK-laptop looks | 22:40 | |
ScottK-laptop | Arby: Look at it now. | 22:42 |
Arby | ScottK-laptop: so the content was ok? I deliberately left subscribers, status etc until I had that sorted | 22:44 |
Arby | minimise e-mail churn et | 22:44 |
Arby | *etc | 22:44 |
ScottK-laptop | Arby: Yes. That's why I confirmed it and subscribed the archive. | 22:45 |
Arby | ok thanks | 22:45 |
* Arby has one more go at this backport before giving up for the night | 22:45 | |
Arby | what the... debuild is trying to apply a patch I just deleted | 22:52 |
Arby | :( | 22:52 |
Riddell | check debian/patches/series | 22:52 |
Arby | Riddell: there isn't one, there is only one patch, which is no longer needed so I removed the whole of debian/patches. | 22:53 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: having a tad bit of trouble with kmail, konq-plugins coming soon | 22:53 |
apachelogger | Arby: did you apply the patch? | 22:55 |
apachelogger | oh | 22:56 |
Arby | apachelogger: no, it's been incorporated into the source so is no longer needed. | 22:56 |
apachelogger | Arby: are you sure it's applying and not unapplying? | 22:57 |
Arby | no | 22:57 |
apachelogger | so, how does quilt know about that patch if there is no patches directory Oo | 22:57 |
Arby | I no longer have any idea what is happening | 22:57 |
Arby | that's what I want to know | 22:57 |
apachelogger | Arby: are you sure you deleted it in the right directory? | 22:57 |
* Arby triplecheck | 22:58 | |
Arby | s | 22:58 |
* apachelogger usually works in 3 branches at the same time leading to that kind of issue ;-) | 22:58 | |
JontheEchidna | bah, gmail is being retarded | 22:58 |
Arby | yes definitely the right directory | 22:58 |
apachelogger | Arby: tar up the directory and send it over | 22:59 |
* apachelogger can't think of any other cause realy | 22:59 | |
JontheEchidna | brb, restarting router | 22:59 |
apachelogger | we should get a kolab setup for kubuntu.org | 22:59 |
Arby | apachelogger: ok, I suspect it's a pebkac :) | 22:59 |
Arby | apachelogger: the whole source tree, or just the debian directory | 23:00 |
Arby | ? | 23:00 |
apachelogger | Arby: former | 23:00 |
Arby | k | 23:00 |
Arby | apachelogger: incoming | 23:04 |
Arby | maybe, eventually | 23:05 |
* apachelogger is afraid of the impact | 23:05 | |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: sent konq-plugins ppa3 | 23:06 |
Arby | sent at last | 23:08 |
vorian | yee haa | 23:13 |
vorian | how goes | 23:14 |
JontheEchidna | good | 23:14 |
JontheEchidna | vorian: any progress on koffice2? :P | 23:14 |
vorian | nope | 23:14 |
JontheEchidna | where do we stand right now? | 23:14 |
vorian | there is some problem with the icons in koffice-data icons | 23:15 |
JontheEchidna | the insert table one? | 23:16 |
JontheEchidna | or a different one? | 23:16 |
* JontheEchidna is improving at backporting | 23:46 | |
* apachelogger is enjoying is crappy connection today | 23:46 | |
apachelogger | omg Arby left | 23:47 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, still no .zip support in ark even with libzyp-dev :/ | 23:47 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: could you ark --version for me? | 23:48 |
apachelogger | me@apoc:~/tmp/ktorrent-3.1.1$ ark --version | 23:48 |
apachelogger | Qt: 4.4.0 | 23:48 |
apachelogger | KDE: 4.00.98 (KDE 4.0.98 (4.1 RC1)) | 23:48 |
apachelogger | Ark: 2.9.999 | 23:48 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: maybe libarchive | 23:48 |
* apachelogger isn't sure about that anymore | 23:48 | |
JontheEchidna | heh | 23:49 |
JontheEchidna | so 2.9.999 is RC1? | 23:49 |
apachelogger | aye | 23:49 |
JontheEchidna | good | 23:50 |
JontheEchidna | libZzip is what cmake wants | 23:53 |
JontheEchidna | libzzip-dev, then | 23:53 |
apachelogger | ok | 23:53 |
apachelogger | I think | 23:53 |
apachelogger | it was like libarchive -> libzip -> libzzip | 23:54 |
apachelogger | eventually ark could stick with some lib at some point ;-) | 23:54 |
apachelogger | hm | 23:54 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: zzip only proivdes read access apparently | 23:54 |
JontheEchidna | + LibZip: A library for reading, creating, and modifying ZIP archives <http://www.nih.at/libzip> <cmake sez | 23:55 |
JontheEchidna | so sez upstream website too | 23:55 |
JontheEchidna | So libzzip-dev as build-dep for the source package | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | libzzip-0-13 as a dep for ark-kde4 | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | sound good? | 23:57 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: libzip != libzzip | 23:57 |
JontheEchidna | ? | 23:57 |
JontheEchidna | I said libzzip both times | 23:57 |
JontheEchidna | oh, nvm | 23:57 |
apachelogger | upstream website doesn't :P | 23:57 |
apachelogger | neither does the pasted output | 23:57 |
JontheEchidna | libzip and libzip-dev | 23:58 |
apachelogger | if (LIBZIP_FOUND) | 23:58 |
apachelogger | add_subdirectory( libzipplugin ) | 23:58 |
apachelogger | endif (LIBZIP_FOUND) | 23:58 |
JontheEchidna | *libzip1 | 23:59 |
apachelogger | hm | 23:59 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: where do you read libzzip? | 23:59 |
Daskreech | 4 | 23:59 |
JontheEchidna | JontheEchidna: I don't, I suck at reading tonight | 23:59 |
apachelogger | cool :) | 23:59 |
apachelogger | +1 | 23:59 |
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