JontheEchidnaOh hi, I was wondering how koffice was coming along.01:03
* JontheEchidna is just getting back himself01:03
voriani havent looked at it since last night01:06
* vorian takes another look-see01:08
vorianJontheEchidna: I uploaded your plasma app today, you should have poked me about it01:09
JontheEchidnaOh, plasmoid-am4rok?01:10
JontheEchidnaOh, um, well thanks. ;)01:10
JontheEchidnaDid you get your system-status package uploaded?01:11
* JontheEchidna is quite happy with the number of plasmoids in Intrepid01:11
vorianyeah, a few days ago01:12
vorianfo realz! keep an eye out for new ones01:12
jjesse__JontheEchidna: thanks for closing a lot of the bugs i was working on... i haven't had much time for follow up and work on kubuntu/kde stuff lately01:12
JontheEchidnaSo far we've got plasmoid-weather, plasmoid-wifi, plasmoid-quickview, plasmoid-am4rok, and plasmoid-system-status01:12
jjesse__seriously thanks for taking the time01:12
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JontheEchidnaNo problem. ;)01:12
* JontheEchidna is currently triaging kdebase-kde401:14
JontheEchidnaPutting all the bugs that still apply in kdebase, and requesting infos on the ones that I can't reproduce01:14
JontheEchidnaHmm, though now that I'm using konqueror as my browser that makes it less convenient to test Konqi crashes...01:16
JontheEchidnaWhere did the ability to add an affected package in LP go?01:20
jjesseit disappeared in the wonderful upgrade to the new look and feel01:25
JontheEchidnaif you change the source package in the url01:26
JontheEchidnaand hit enter01:27
JontheEchidnaIt'll say that this bug isn't in the source package, and asks you if you want to open it there too01:27
gnomefreakwhat do i need to set my terminal to to view a .so file without it looksing like @@@@ all over it?01:42
gnomefreakok gedit cant open it :(01:46
yuriyJontheEchidna: I thinks "also affects distribution"?02:36
JontheEchidnaOh hey, it is02:36
yuriyevening all02:37
JontheEchidnavorian: plasmoid-system-status has a new upstream release02:43
vorianit's not even out of new yet!02:43
vorianapachelogger: when you have a moment http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom04:59
Riddellseele: nice knm review08:30
kduserGoing though it now :-)08:38
Wubbbigood morning everyone :D08:50
* kduser waves08:54
WubbbiI have got a Crash on Intrepid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28930/ Kubuntu or KDE bug?08:54
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Wubbbiseems that everyone is still sleeping xD10:17
RiddellI expect that's an upstream crash10:24
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WubbbiWell i have reported it to #plasma and they have reported it ( as a Bug report ) to kde :) so my part is done :D10:25
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams
WubbbiI get a crash, when I try to watch Videos ( With Xine ) on Firefox. But the only massage I get is "Segmentation fault". Very strange. How to debug that? Terminal wont help11:15
Wubbbion Konqueror it crashs too. So that is a Xine bug ( libxine 1.1.14-1ubuntu1 )  on Intrepid11:19
WubbbiKonqueror shows me that: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28952/11:20
Wubbbiany idea?11:20
Riddellmy inbox tells me that JontheEchidna wants to be a member12:47
Riddellwe should convene the council for the solem and serious decision making process12:47
ryanakcaRiddell: I'm guessing there wouldn't be any problem if Edubuntu wanted to use our Drupal theme?12:49
Riddellryanakca: nope12:51
Riddellthe theme should be put under some suitable free licence12:51
* ryanakca nods, I'm not too sure what newz released it under12:51
nixternalRiddell: we should setup up a meeting for sometime soon12:51
jussi01Riddell: just so you know - that is me who asked for facebook friendship... (approval would be nice) :D12:51
NightroseRiddell: on hardy since 4.1 RC 1 launching kde 3 programs launches the kde 4 version instead12:54
Nightroselaunching from kickoff and krunner12:54
Nightrosepatch got lost?12:54
* txwikinger wonders why Nightrose sends patches by mail :D12:56
txwikingerwell.. the mail often loses things :D12:56
JontheEchidnaRiddell: Also, looking for sponsorship for bug 24879212:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 248792 in kdenetwork "Binary package knewsticker should be renamed to plasmoid-knewsticker" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24879212:56
* nixternal heads to work13:02
* Riddell lunches, back soon13:14
smarterall plasmoids should be named plasmoid-foo now?13:27
JontheEchidnaYes plz13:27
JontheEchidnaOr that's the consensus that vorian, apachelogger and I came to13:28
smarterI'll fill a bug for my kepas package then13:28
smarterbut we should ask Debian first imho13:28
smarterare they already packaging applets?13:28
JontheEchidnaDon't know13:29
JontheEchidnaDoes debian's bug database even have a web interface?13:29
JontheEchidnafor reporting?13:29
smarterbut asks in #debian-qt-kde@irc.oftc.net13:30
* JontheEchidna also has to go for now13:30
seeleRiddell: thx13:52
Wubbbihello :D14:29
mooperello, I have a bit of a whine about firefox intergration if anyones interested14:43
Hobbseemooper: don't whine.  use that energy to start putting forth actual patches to fix it.14:48
Hobbseethere's already a spec about it, if you're interested - has been for a while.14:49
Riddelltrouble with firefox is we tend to use konqueror, and the firefox guys tend not to use KDE14:54
Riddellbut the spec is on their side not ours :)14:54
Hobbseemaking firefox useful for those who *do* use it with kubuntu would be very useful, though14:54
seezercan i somehow find out which compilation flags had been used on compilation of binary packages?15:22
seezeror what I'm really interested in: do qt(4) packages get build with QT_NO_(DEBUG|WARNING)_OUTPUT?15:23
yuriyseezer: download the source for a package (apt-get source) and look at the debian/rules file15:27
seezeryuriy: ah ok - so what's not in the rules file isn't called from somewhere else? alright then, thanks15:28
seezeror do those cdbs files contain anything like that?15:30
mooperRiddell: Hobbsee: I dont think I have the skills to do anything usfulll15:34
mooperwhere is the spec?15:34
Riddellseezer: nothing shows up grepping the build log for OUTPUT15:40
Riddellmooper: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/firefox-kde-integration-intrepid15:40
Riddell"Assignee: None"15:40
Riddellah well15:40
seezerRiddell: nice, thank you15:40
smarterIIRC someone is working on a Qt frontend for Firefox15:42
mooperIceland Scallop16:00
Riddellsmarter: only the fifth such project to do that :)16:06
mooperRiddel: sadly, thats way beyond my skill level16:07
mooperwhich is only just enough for making a good cup of tea16:07
smarterRiddell: true :p16:08
smarterthat reminds me, I should update the webkitkde package with a new snapshot16:08
Riddellsmarter: I e-mailed Urs the SoC student working on it, he doesn't think it'll be good enough for intrepid unfortunately16:15
smarteroh :/16:16
smarterwe'll stick with khtml for the  moment then, it's not that bad :p16:16
Riddellsmarter: but do take new snapshots when you get time and there's notable changes16:21
smarterRiddell: I'll do, once I'll be a MOTU ;)16:22
smarterwell, maybe once is appropriate in this context, don't know :P16:22
smarterbug #250551 << could someone please upload my fix?16:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250551 in kvpm "FTBFS with 0.4.5b-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25055116:41
smarterRiddell maybe? ;) ^16:46
Riddellsmarter: uploaded, mind and send the change to upstream16:55
smarterthat's in my TODO list ;)16:55
* Arby wanders in looking for things to work on17:12
ArbyRiddell: do we have things that need packaging?17:16
RiddellArby: there's a ktorrent merge on dholbach's sponsoring list17:17
Arbyok I'll look into it, is this a new list of some kind?17:17
Riddellit's for ktorrent-kde4 but we use ktorrent as the package name now so dunno if it's needed or not17:18
ArbyI'll look17:18
Half-LeftHello, can I speak to a packager who does KDE4?17:24
Riddellthat'll be us17:26
Half-Lefthi, I heard you package svg's with the Oxygen icons?17:26
Riddellseems so, I should probably remove them to make some CD space17:27
Half-Leftok but you shouldn't because they are suorces only and will save you lots of bandwith17:28
ArbyRiddell: short summary, ktorrent 3.1.1 is released, intrepid has 3.1~rc1, hardy has 3.0.117:29
ArbyRiddell: I assume we want intrepid updated, do we want 3.1.1 backported to hardy as well?17:30
RiddellArby: yes we want intrepid updated, ktorrent-kde4 source package should be removed, I don't use backports so I can't say I'm fussed :)17:31
RiddellHalf-Left: looks like we just install usr/share/icons/oxygen/* in kdebase-runtime currently17:31
RiddellHalf-Left: so not installing the .svgz files would be good17:31
RiddellHalf-Left: what's your interest?17:32
Half-LeftI do artwork for KDE417:32
Riddellbling bling17:32
Half-Left4.2 actaully17:32
ArbyRiddell: I'll do intrepid first. How do I get ktorrent-kde4 removed, use 'Replaces' in debian/control?17:32
RiddellArby: replaces and conflicts yes, and file a bug on ktorrent-kde4 asking for removal subscribing ubuntu-archive17:33
ArbyRiddell: thanks17:33
RiddellHalf-Left: do you know who added all the new mouse themes to 4.1?17:33
Half-LeftThink it was Ruphy or pinheiro17:34
tomayeah, upstream17:35
Riddellthey seem a bit excessive for kdebase, for the same space reasons17:37
tomasplitting them off to something like oxygen-cursors makes sense17:38
jtechidnaBy the way, I'm backporting kdebindings-kde4 for the hardy ppa17:39
Riddellthat's what I did with the wallpapers17:39
Riddelljtechidna: good luck!17:39
Riddelljtechidna: where did you get to with koffice?17:39
Riddellrediscovering kdeartwork would be good though17:40
jtechidnaWe fixed the FTBFS and ran into a few more which we also fixed17:40
jtechidnaBut it takes 6 hrs to build on my computer so vorian is doing the testbuildign17:40
Riddellmm, it's a beast to build17:40
jtechidnaand I don't know if the latest works built yet17:40
Riddelljtechidna: you mean kde4bindings ?17:40
jtechidnaIt took 15 mins for it to get to 3% built on my computer17:41
jtechidnavorian's computer can do it in an hour17:41
jtechidnaSo he's doing the testbuilding17:41
Riddellright, I changed the subject17:41
Riddelljtechidna: you mean kde4bindings rather than kdebindings-kde4 ?17:42
Riddellgood good17:42
ryanakcaCould someone look at 233972 please?17:43
ryanakcabug 233972 , unsure if I merged it properly17:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 233972 in kde-style-qtcurve "Please merge kde-style-qtcurve 0.55.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23397217:43
Riddellryanakca: looking17:46
Riddellryanakca: looks groovy, uploading17:46
ryanakcaRiddell: I'm pointing to the ``skipping'' patch part...17:47
ryanakcaor is that just during the debian/rules clean section, it notices that it isn't applied, so skips unapplying it? (I'm not too familiar with just plain patch)17:48
Riddellryanakca: yes that's fine17:52
ryanakcaok, thanks :)17:52
ryanakcaRiddell: also, feel free to tweak the sentence describing the kubuntuway forums17:55
Riddell"yet another forum"17:57
ryanakcadone. Also, how hard would it be to patch out the logout dialog options, where could I get the sources to do so, and what options need to be patched out? I'm guessing this is for KDE4?17:59
Riddellryanakca: yes KDE 418:09
Riddellnot sure how hard, it depends if the menu just calls "logout dialog" or if it calls "shutdown" or "restart" or the specific option18:09
RiddellI think the code is shutdowndlg.cpp from ksmserver18:10
Riddellit would also be worth investigating why upstream hasn't got it showing only the one option as picked from the kmenu18:11
* ryanakca nods18:12
Riddellryanakca: probably best remove the "yet", it's a bit too derogitory18:14
* ryanakca switches it back18:15
tomaopensuse shows only the option selected from the kmenu18:15
apacheloggerNightrose: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=darkroom I am wondering what that thing is doing18:25
Nightroseyea yea...18:25
apacheloggeractually quite boring18:27
apacheloggervorian: typo: Description: immage manipulation tool18:27
apacheloggervore: line 6 in control has a trailing whitespace which makes it exceed 80 characters :P18:35
apacheloggervorian even18:39
apacheloggervore: sorry18:39
apacheloggervorian: in the manpage: for the \fBKubuntu GNU/Linux\fP system.  ---- please use 'the Kubuntu system' since that is the official naming18:40
jtechidnaPyKDE sorta takes a long time to build18:41
* jtechidna runs off to do other things18:41
apacheloggerjtechidna: dude, you have no idea how long all of kdebindings would take :S18:42
apacheloggervorian: and please tell upstream that DocPath in the desktop file should be X-KDE-DocPath, that Terminal=0 should use a boolean and the genericname is _far too_ generic18:46
DRebellionapachelogger, could I ask you something about posterazor?18:50
apacheloggerDRebellion: I don't even know what that is, but you can certainly ask me ;-)18:50
apacheloggersmarter: archived kvpm ppa1 upload to revu18:51
apacheloggersmarter: what's the status of foxkit?18:51
apacheloggerDRebellion: btw, what is the status of monkeystudio?18:53
DRebellionapachelogger, heh, it's another package i'm working on. The current version released on the website is 1.5, however this has a problem with gcc-4.3. The upstream developer has fixed it in a version called 1.5.1, however he has not been able to test the new package under os x yet (only win32 and linux). He has given me a link to the new, unreleased source package, http://www.casaportale.de/lagerraum/PosteRazor-1.5.1-Source.zip , which18:54
DRebellion I have prepared and builds fine. Can I upload that package, or should I wait (it's been a couple of weeks) for it to be released after mac testing?18:54
DRebellionapachelogger, the package is ready, but the current release fails to build under amd64.18:54
DRebellionupstream says the dev branch works, but i can't test18:54
DRebellionalso, the dev branch uses a debugging binary, etc, other oddities, etc.18:55
DRebellionso I am waiting for the next full release.18:55
apacheloggertechnically you will have to wait for the official release18:55
apacheloggerupstream could just release the source18:55
apacheloggerand if it doesn't work on osx18:55
apacheloggerpush 1.5.2 and skip the .1 release for osx18:56
apacheloggeryou might suggest that18:56
DRebellionI will bug upstream and ask them to do a release for win32 and linux only then.18:56
DRebellions/them/him :P18:56
apachelogger...or just don't tell anyone that it isn't official released, maybe none notices ;-)18:56
apacheloggervorian: status of kio-ftps?18:57
smarterhey apachelogger18:58
* apachelogger waves to smarter18:59
smarterapachelogger: yeah, sorry for the upload to revu18:59
apacheloggerryanakca: archiving qtcurve on revu19:00
smarterI've not touched foxkit for sometimes now, I'll probably finish it soon, but first I've to make that why-I-think-I-should-be-a-motu page19:00
* jtechidna fears for the amount of time kdebindings will take'19:01
smarterjtechidna: a lot19:01
jtechidnaHmm, it's up to PyQT4 now19:01
jtechidnaBah, python plasmoids won't be supported until 4.2 is released19:05
jtechidnawell, support will come in the pre-releases19:06
* jtechidna sighs -_-19:06
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* apachelogger is singing ruby ruby ruby19:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did I upload konq-plugins yet?19:11
JontheEchidnaDon't think so; did you ever get the email? I got a reutrn message saying that delivery was delayed or somethign19:19
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: ^19:19
apacheloggeroh well19:20
apacheloggerI just hope you didn't break anything :P19:20
* apachelogger uploads19:20
* JontheEchidna never figured out how he was supposed to use them19:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: konqueror -> tools19:22
apacheloggeror settings -> configure extensions to activate/deacitvate them19:22
apacheloggerdepends alot on the plugin really19:22
* JontheEchidna can only see a Text-to-speech one19:23
* JontheEchidna hopes that isn't bad19:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: did you actually install any plugin? :P19:25
JontheEchidnaI installed the debs that debuild spit out19:26
JontheEchidnaall of 'em19:27
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: maybe you use the wrong cdbs again? ;-)19:34
ArbyRiddell: ktorrent update done, files are on lichts19:42
Arbyis the backport worth doing?19:43
JontheEchidnadoes it fix the crash on exit?19:43
JontheEchidnaIf it does, the backport would fix a crash. :P19:44
Arbywhat crash on exit?19:44
JontheEchidnaKTorrent 3.0.1 crashes on exit in Hardy19:44
Arbyok let me check the changelog19:44
JontheEchidnahttp://saroengels.blogspot.com/2008/07/sweet-dreams.html <- Plasma on windows19:45
RiddellArby: there's no .orig .dsc .diff.gz on lichts19:46
Arbyhmm, odd19:46
Riddelloh, wiat19:48
JontheEchidnaBah, kde4bindings ftbfs19:50
JontheEchidnamissing files....19:50
JontheEchidnaOh, I guess I wasn't supposed to /usr/lib/kde4 that one19:51
JontheEchidnadebuild -nc will make it not do a make clean, correct?19:53
RiddellJontheEchidna: fix it then run   dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list0missing19:54
RiddellJontheEchidna: fix it then run   dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing19:54
Riddellrepeat until it doesn't complain then debuild -nc19:54
JontheEchidnaWoo, that was the only one19:56
ArbyJontheEchidna: there's nothing obvious here about fixing a crash on exit19:56
Arbydid you have a specific bug number19:56
JontheEchidnajust a second19:57
JontheEchidnaArby: bug 22793219:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 227932 in ktorrent-kde4 "Ktorrent-kde4 crashes after shutdown of closing" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22793219:58
ArbyJontheEchidna: thanks19:59
* JontheEchidna injects humor:19:59
JontheEchidna(Disclaimer, I probably couldn't fix that crash :P)20:00
JontheEchidnaand kde4bindings builds!20:05
Nightrosejcastro: hey :) just gone through brainstorm again and there are a lot of amarok ideas that can be closed as wontfix basically or could use an upstream comment - can you get me admin rights to do that?20:06
Nightroseor is that not possible yet?20:06
jcastroNightrose: I can't personally give you admin rights, but nand or stgraber can20:06
jcastroI think nand is on holiday though20:06
jcastrono worries, thanks for looking after them!20:07
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: can I send kde4bindings 4.0.98~hardy~ppa1 over to you?20:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: sure20:10
ArbyJontheEchidna: no real idea whether 3.1.1 fixes that bug or not20:10
Arbybest solution is probably to do the backport and tet to find out20:10
* JontheEchidna agrees20:10
Wubbbihello to everyone :D20:10
WubbbiJontheEchidna: is there something easy to fix? I want to learn more :D. Now I know hoe to creat a gpg and how the get a source and how to edit a file :D20:13
* JontheEchidna can't think of anything20:13
JontheEchidnaBut that's good I guess :P20:13
Wubbbiguess what?20:13
Wubbbiohhh ... I have read wrong xD sorry20:14
yuriyWubbbi: look at bugs and see what there is you can fix!20:19
Wubbbihihi ^^20:19
yuriyWubbbi: maybe start with bugs tagged bitesize or packaging20:20
Wubbbihow to searc for bug? It's a bit difficult on Launchpad :/20:20
WubbbiJontheEchidna: can I use created GPG-Keys always or just one time?20:22
Wubbbiahhh ok good to know :)20:22
yuriyWubbbi: go to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and go to the advanced search. there you can put in keywords, what status you want, and what tags you want20:24
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sent20:27
Wubbbiyuriy: ahhh thank you :D20:32
JontheEchidnaHmm, I should probably backport kdeutils and kdesdk next20:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: please add libzip-dev to kdeutils20:38
apacheloggerotherwise ark doesn't support zippy files20:38
Arbyif I'm backporting ktorrent3.1.1 to hardy should I name the package ktorrent or ktorrent-kde4?20:39
Wubbbiapachelogger: This was I bug, I had today too :)20:39
apacheloggerArby: -kde420:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bindings uploaded20:41
WubbbiJontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D20:42
Arbyktorrent3.1.1/debian has gained several files that don't exist in 3.0.x /debian20:50
Arbyis it safe to just copy those files across20:51
Arbyor is that likely to break things20:51
Arbyfor example .install .lintian .postinst.debhelper20:51
Arbyquite a few actually20:51
smarterapachelogger: I've finally updated my wiki page :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GuillaumeMartres20:59
* Wubbbi klapps his hands for smarter20:59
Wubbbismarter: You are just 15 years old? oO .. so younger than me ^^21:01
apacheloggerArby: depends on the files' content really21:02
apachelogger.lintian only overrides lintian overrides for example21:02
apachelogger.install probably needs path changes21:02
apacheloggersmarter: https://edge.launchpad.net/~smarter/+packages is changing21:03
Arbyapachelogger: does it seem reasonable to copy them and see what debuild complains about?21:03
apacheloggersmarter: like when someone uploads a newer version to intrepid the packages will disappear21:03
apacheloggersmarter: so I suggest to actually protocol all your work21:04
smarterapachelogger: ok21:04
apacheloggerArby: if you can upload to the ppa -> no, if you can't -> yes ;-)21:04
ArbyI can't so I'll go with that option21:05
apacheloggerArby: I think only the .install files should require changes21:05
apacheloggeradding /usr/lib/kde4/ as prefix to everything21:05
Arbyapachelogger: I was expecting those21:05
Arbyalso I'm confused by the debian changelogs, let me pastebin21:06
* apachelogger is updating the kde.org content21:06
apacheloggerArby: is there already a backport?21:06
WubbbiJontheEchidna seems to sleep xD21:08
Arbyapachelogger: no, newest in hardy is 3.0.1, I'm working on 3.1.121:08
apacheloggerArby: yeah21:09
apacheloggerjust copy the official changes since 3.0.1 at the beginning of the new backport21:09
apacheloggerand add your backport entry21:09
* JontheEchidna was away21:11
Wubbbihihi ^21:11
* JontheEchidna won't be going to sleep for another 6 hours :P21:11
WubbbiJontheEchidna: Is it easy to add libzyp-dev to kdeutils? If it was can I do this? :D21:12
JontheEchidnaThat's not all that has to be done21:13
Arbyapachelogger: does this look ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/29092/21:13
WubbbiJontheEchidna: :(21:13
apacheloggerArby: sure21:14
apacheloggerit doesn't really matter all that much for the ppa ;-)21:14
ArbyI still prefer to do it right so that I understand when it does matter :)21:14
WubbbiWell If i have nothing to do, let me go to bed ... Its 22:15 o'clock ^^ see you tomorw :D21:16
WubbbiI'm very tired21:16
JontheEchidna16:16 here21:16
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: oh crap, I think I know why I can't find any of the plugins21:25
JontheEchidnaI forgot to rename the .install files21:25
apachelogger"KDE is a very big project" or "KDE is a very large project"?21:27
JontheEchidnaBoth work, afaik. But I think the latter is more "proper".21:27
JontheEchidnayou could even go with "KDE is a rather expansive project"21:28
apacheloggersimplified english21:28
raphink_"KDE is a big bunch of code"21:28
JontheEchidna"a series of tubes"21:28
apacheloggertubes ftw21:28
raphink_"KDE is a big stuff with tons of programs"21:30
DaskreechKDE is a group of three letters. Please enjoy21:32
* Arby is having problems with patches21:41
Arbyktorrent backport fails to build with http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/21:41
smartertrying to stop smoking? :}21:42
Arbythe patch is against 3.1.1 and doesn't exist in 3.0.121:42
ArbyI have no idea how to deal with that21:42
smarterapachelogger: updated my wiki page, again :P21:42
apacheloggersmarter: perfect21:45
apacheloggersmarter: now you just need some wicked photo so that we can buy you a coke when meeting :-P21:46
smarterI'll try to find one ;)21:46
smarterso, what is the process to become a master of da universe now?21:47
apacheloggerthat is a very good question21:47
* apachelogger is totally confused by the new contributors thingy21:47
* JontheEchidna just does what he keeps doing21:47
apacheloggerbut as I understand it - first you need to apply as ubuntu contributor21:47
smarterlaunchpad group?21:48
apacheloggerwhich is basically yet another form of ubuntu membership21:48
apacheloggersmarter: motu-council21:48
JontheEchidnaQuestion: to autostart .destkop files get /usr/lib/kde4'd?21:48
apacheloggerand the fact that it is basically an ubuntu membership makes we wonder whether one has to apply for that thing even if already approved as ubuntu member21:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: everything21:49
apachelogger\sh: are you around?21:49
JontheEchidnanot application .deskotp files21:49
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: every file21:49
apacheloggersmarter: best thing is to ask in ubuntu-motu21:49
apacheloggerbut I think you need to apply for contributor21:50
apacheloggerthen contribute21:50
apacheloggerand then become motu21:50
smarterapachelogger: I'll ask that tomorrow, it's late here (:21:50
apacheloggertell me about it :P21:50
smarterg'night everybody21:50
apacheloggernini smarter21:50
jpdsbonsoir smarter21:51
Arbyapachelogger: if it's not too late could you have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/29101/21:51
ArbyI'm confused by this patch21:51
Arbyit's new in 3.1.1 and it's blocking this backport from building21:52
Arbyand I can't find anything in the changelog to say what it actually does21:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sent you new konq-plugins21:53
Arbystarting to think this may be beyond my skills :(21:54
apacheloggerArby: take a look at the patch and at the patched files21:57
apacheloggermaybe it got applied upstream21:58
apacheloggerhow did it apply21:58
apacheloggervery strange issue I have to say21:58
Arbywhat do you mean by how did it apply?21:58
Arbyit's probably my fault, there's quite a lot of difference in /debian between 3.0.1 and 3.1.121:59
apacheloggerArby: well, just get a clean source tree (i.e. extact the orig tarball again) and copy your debian/ in22:00
apacheloggerthen it should be working22:00
Arbyapachelogger: good call, somewhere between beta and final the patch got rolled into the main source22:02
Arbyshould have thought of that22:02
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: forgot I was still debuilding before sending the new konq-plugins, lol22:05
* JontheEchidna did something wrong...22:05
* apachelogger thinks that JontheEchidna needs upload rights to the ppa to get that special feeling when users come after one because everything is broken :P22:07
JontheEchidnawhat the heck?22:07
JontheEchidnacp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory22:07
JontheEchidnajonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/ubuntu/konqplugins-hardy/konq-plugins-kde4-4.1~svn831460$ dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp --list-missing22:07
JontheEchidnacp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/config/translaterc': No such file or directory22:07
JontheEchidnaOoh, I see, extra /22:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: correct cdbs?22:07
apacheloggernot the extra / it is22:07
JontheEchidnahmm, nevermind22:08
* JontheEchidna has correct cdbs22:08
RiddellArby: ktorrent uploaded thanks, please close that bug on the sponsoring bit saying thanks for his contribution22:08
ArbyRiddell: thanks for uploading22:09
ArbyRiddell: do you still want me to file a bug about removing ktorrent-kde4?22:09
RiddellArby: oh aye please.  my archive day tomorrow so I'll do that and some more22:10
apacheloggerthe some more is hopefully amarok-kde4 ;-)22:11
apacheloggeralpha2 coming up22:11
apacheloggerNightrose: http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/project.php22:11
* JontheEchidna is 100% sure he has correct cdbs, but is still running into the ftbfs22:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: just comment out that install line22:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: once it built run make -f debian/rules list-missing22:12
ArbyRiddell: actually, does the sponsoring bug count as closed, the users experiencing it are on hardy not intrepid22:13
Arbyso unless I can make this backport build the fix won't reach them22:13
ArbyI'm sure you're right, just trying to understand22:13
apacheloggerNightrose: did you do any pushing on accessibility yet?22:14
JontheEchidnaHmm, looks like kdeutils might be a long builder too22:14
apacheloggerArby: grab the intrepid source and try to build it in hardy-backports enabled chroot22:15
apacheloggerif it builds against kdelibs 4.0.x we can do a hardy-backports backport22:16
apacheloggerotherwise we have to go with the kde4 ppa22:16
* JontheEchidna notes that 4.1 final is tagged tomorrow.22:16
Arbyapachelogger: ok, I think I'm going to have start over anyway, I've made a mess of this22:17
JontheEchidnaIs 4.1 going to Hardy backports?22:17
apacheloggerah right, we can't do an officlal backpot anyway22:17
JontheEchidnaoh well22:18
* JontheEchidna hopes Intrepid becomes stable-ish soon22:19
apacheloggerit isn't?22:19
JontheEchidna...in regards to 3D and proprietary drivers22:20
* JontheEchidna hugs KWin22:20
apacheloggerthey would use that dkms thingy from dell22:20
apacheloggerthere wouldn't be any problem22:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: dynamic kernel module support22:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://linux.dell.com/projects.shtml#dkms22:21
JontheEchidnasounds... dynamic!22:21
sebasapachelogger: if the proprietary drivers actually work with new xorg and kernel, dkms would work as well22:21
ArbyRiddell: before I do the subscription, do you need more info than this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent-kde4/+bug/25062622:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New]22:21
* sebas is just trying newest ati w/ 2.6.2622:21
apacheloggersebas: nvidia works ;-)22:21
apacheloggerand even then... we all got an intel onboard chip, right? ;-)22:22
sebasapachelogger: not with kwin though :)22:22
sebasapachelogger: we do, users don't.22:22
sebasAs a matter of fact, I don't.22:22
apacheloggerusers don't use itnrepid :P22:22
sebasthat leaves only me :'/22:23
* apachelogger hands sebas a beer22:23
apacheloggeralso provides fancy graphics ;-)22:23
JontheEchidnaActually KWin works great with my GeForce 4 MX 44022:23
JontheEchidnaironic, isn't it?22:23
ScottK-laptopArby: Did you review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive?highlight=%28CategoryUbuntuDevelopment%29#head-6a4a4d2ad0cc004c6199f465539e3bbc2239291e22:23
sebasapachelogger: lsd works better with fancy graphics, or so I've heard.22:24
apacheloggerI am quite sure beer tastes better though22:24
sebasJontheEchidna: no signs of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16538 ?22:24
ubottuFreedesktop bug 16538 in Driver/nVidia (proprietary) "Slow resizing of windows in kwin from KDE4" [Normal,New]22:24
ArbyScottK-laptop: no I filed it because I was asked to, reading now.22:24
sebasYeah, but you usually don't drink a pint of lsd22:24
sebasSo that's moot.22:25
sebasAnd they're not mutually exclusive anyway22:25
JontheEchidnasebas: half a  second max22:25
sebaswhat exactly, JontheEchidna?22:25
sebasOr resizing konsole?22:25
sebasAnd is that the legacy driver or the 'real' one?22:26
JontheEchidnaresizing konsole22:26
sebasThat's faster than my 7600gs22:26
JontheEchidnanvidia-glx which is the 90.x22:26
JontheEchidnaBet you're envious of my smokin' card. :P22:27
* JontheEchidna never thought he'd see the day where his videocard actually was 5 times faster than anybody else's22:30
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yay, all files included now22:31
JontheEchidna...and the bookmarks show up!22:31
ArbyScottK-laptop: for this line, mention to remove both source and all binaries22:32
Arbyif we remove the source do we also have to remove the binaries?22:33
ScottK-laptopArby: If you want binary packages removed, you need to list them.22:33
ScottK-laptopDepends on if the same binary is being built from another source packages now.22:33
* JontheEchidna hugs google searchbar22:34
Arbythe reason for the removal is that ktorrent-kde4 becomes ktorrent in intrepid22:34
Arbyso I guess the answer is yes22:34
Arbyboth binary and source package names have changed22:34
ArbyScottK-laptop: does this look acceptable to you now? bug 25062622:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250626 in ktorrent-kde4 "Please remove ktorrent-kde4 from intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25062622:39
* ScottK-laptop looks22:40
ScottK-laptopArby: Look at it now.22:42
ArbyScottK-laptop: so the content was ok? I deliberately left subscribers, status etc until I had that sorted22:44
Arbyminimise e-mail churn et22:44
ScottK-laptopArby: Yes.  That's why I confirmed it and subscribed the archive.22:45
Arbyok thanks22:45
* Arby has one more go at this backport before giving up for the night22:45
Arbywhat the... debuild is trying to apply a patch I just deleted22:52
Riddellcheck debian/patches/series22:52
ArbyRiddell: there isn't one, there is only one patch, which is no longer needed so I removed the whole of debian/patches.22:53
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: having a tad bit of trouble with kmail, konq-plugins coming soon22:53
apacheloggerArby: did you apply the patch?22:55
Arbyapachelogger: no, it's been incorporated into the source so is no longer needed.22:56
apacheloggerArby: are you sure it's applying and not unapplying?22:57
apacheloggerso, how does quilt know about that patch if there is no patches directory Oo22:57
ArbyI no longer have any idea what is happening22:57
Arbythat's what I want to know22:57
apacheloggerArby: are you sure you deleted it in the right directory?22:57
* Arby triplecheck22:58
* apachelogger usually works in 3 branches at the same time leading to that kind of issue ;-)22:58
JontheEchidnabah, gmail is being retarded22:58
Arbyyes definitely the right directory22:58
apacheloggerArby: tar up the directory and send it over22:59
* apachelogger can't think of any other cause realy22:59
JontheEchidnabrb, restarting router22:59
apacheloggerwe should get a kolab setup for kubuntu.org22:59
Arbyapachelogger: ok, I suspect it's a pebkac :)22:59
Arbyapachelogger: the whole source tree, or just the debian directory23:00
apacheloggerArby: former23:00
Arbyapachelogger: incoming23:04
Arbymaybe, eventually23:05
* apachelogger is afraid of the impact23:05
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sent konq-plugins ppa323:06
Arbysent at last23:08
vorianyee haa23:13
vorianhow goes23:14
JontheEchidnavorian: any progress on koffice2? :P23:14
JontheEchidnawhere do we stand right now?23:14
vorianthere is some problem with the icons in koffice-data icons23:15
JontheEchidnathe insert table one?23:16
JontheEchidnaor a different one?23:16
* JontheEchidna is improving at backporting23:46
* apachelogger is enjoying is crappy connection today23:46
apacheloggeromg Arby left23:47
JontheEchidnahmm, still no .zip support in ark even with libzyp-dev :/23:47
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: could you ark --version for me?23:48
apacheloggerme@apoc:~/tmp/ktorrent-3.1.1$ ark --version23:48
apacheloggerQt: 4.4.023:48
apacheloggerKDE: 4.00.98 (KDE 4.0.98 (4.1 RC1))23:48
apacheloggerArk: 2.9.99923:48
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: maybe libarchive23:48
* apachelogger isn't sure about that anymore23:48
JontheEchidnaso 2.9.999 is RC1?23:49
JontheEchidnalibZzip is what cmake wants23:53
JontheEchidnalibzzip-dev, then23:53
apacheloggerI think23:53
apacheloggerit was like libarchive -> libzip -> libzzip23:54
apacheloggereventually ark could stick with some lib at some point ;-)23:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: zzip only proivdes read access apparently23:54
JontheEchidna+ LibZip: A library for reading, creating, and modifying ZIP archives <http://www.nih.at/libzip> <cmake sez23:55
JontheEchidnaso sez upstream website too23:55
JontheEchidnaSo libzzip-dev as build-dep for the source package23:56
JontheEchidnalibzzip-0-13 as a dep for ark-kde423:56
JontheEchidnasound good?23:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: libzip != libzzip23:57
JontheEchidnaI said libzzip both times23:57
JontheEchidnaoh, nvm23:57
apacheloggerupstream website doesn't :P23:57
apacheloggerneither does the pasted output23:57
JontheEchidnalibzip and libzip-dev23:58
apacheloggerif (LIBZIP_FOUND)23:58
apacheloggeradd_subdirectory( libzipplugin )23:58
apacheloggerendif (LIBZIP_FOUND)23:58
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: where do you read libzzip?23:59
JontheEchidnaJontheEchidna: I don't, I suck at reading tonight23:59
apacheloggercool :)23:59

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