[00:12] <sayaleproso> help !! =/
[00:13] <SaYaLePRoSo> alguien que me pueda ayudar ?
[00:13] <SaYaLePRoSo> .d
[00:15] <SebNaitsabes> so I just re installed Flashplugin non free from the repo into this womans Kubuntu and it's still doing it.  Flash stuff is not loading in Firefox. any ideas?
[00:17] <MrKennie> SebNaitsabes: in firefox does anything show in about:plugins ?
[00:18] <SebNaitsabes> i'll have to try stuff like that next time
[00:18] <SebNaitsabes> I was vncing her
[00:18] <SebNaitsabes> and she had to go
[00:18] <MrKennie> ah ok
[00:18] <SebNaitsabes> ,but I just remove the plugin and put it back on again
[00:18] <SebNaitsabes> and looked for some plugins folder in .mozilla that I could not find
[00:19] <MrKennie> should be in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[00:19] <MrKennie> er, firefox/plugins
[00:20] <SebNaitsabes> yeah I went looking for
[00:20] <MrKennie> which is a link to /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
[00:20] <SebNaitsabes> a folder that I knew should be there
[00:20] <Guest30866> moin moin
[00:20] <mikedomo> some people have problems with wireless cards in ubuntu
[00:21] <SebNaitsabes> whilst I am at it,   I am prety sure there is a way to get Shockwave working in Linux Firefox with Wine or Codeweavers, but not entirely sure since I have not done that myself before
[00:21] <MrKennie> it is possible, I've done it myself but it's very unstable.
[00:21] <MrKennie> so I just gave up on that idea :)
[00:21] <SebNaitsabes> well some stupid game on Facebook that she  wants to run maybe needs it
[00:21] <mikedomo> i posted one solution for that
[00:22] <mikedomo> http://www.republicaubuntu.org.do/foro/viewtopic.php?t=1309
[00:22] <jonathan_> flash sometimes wont load on firefox 3
[00:22] <SebNaitsabes> why?
[00:22] <MrKennie> I'm still using FF2
[00:22] <jonathan_> refreshing wont fix it
[00:23] <jonathan_> same glitch with firefox 2 as well
[00:23] <mikedomo> i never have this problem in firefox
[00:23] <SebNaitsabes> hummmmmmm and on mine I get problems like slowness and freezes with Firefox 3 in Ubuntu
[00:23] <jonathan_> maybe its a 64 bit thing
[00:23] <SebNaitsabes> she is using 32bit
[00:23] <jonathan_> :(
[00:23] <mikedomo> is big trouble inst linux 64 bits version
[00:23] <MrKennie> doesn't the latest flash work under x64?
[00:23] <jonathan_> im trying to buy some tracks on beat port but its just fnarked up
[00:24] <jonathan_> well flash does work fine
[00:24] <SebNaitsabes> maybe it's worth trying to get Flash plugin working in konqueror as well
[00:24] <jonathan_> when it wants to
[00:24] <jonathan_> well oddly enough
[00:24] <MrKennie> for me, video performance sucks in flash but other than that it's good.
[00:24] <jonathan_> same glitch in konqueror
[00:24] <jonathan_> seriously
[00:24] <MrKennie> ah yea, I've had the same in konq
[00:25] <SebNaitsabes> what would really suck is having to use the WIndows Firefox under Wine or something like that
[00:25] <SebNaitsabes> well she woudn't care
[00:25]  * icarus test
[00:25] <SebNaitsabes> ,but I sure as hell would
[00:25] <jonathan_> it could work for hours all day
[00:25] <jonathan_> then suddenly
[00:25] <jonathan_> *plop*
[00:25] <jonathan_> its broke
[00:25] <jonathan_> like a magic gblin sneezed onit or something
[00:25] <jonathan_> goblin*
[00:25] <lesergi> hi all
[00:26] <jonathan_> its makes no sense
[00:26] <mikedomo> hi
[00:26] <SebNaitsabes> or it does make sense since it's propritary closed source software
[00:26] <init6> I have a Lite-On DVDRW SOHW-1633S drive. Can't burn to my TDK DVD-r but can burn to Maxell DVD-r. Tried to flash the drive but they are all .exe apps. wine will let it detect the drive fine but can't flash it. any suggestions on how to upgrade the firmware to allow other media types?
[00:26] <jonathan_> .....
[00:26] <SebNaitsabes> which does make me think of gnash again
[00:26] <jonathan_> ahhhh
[00:26] <jonathan_> is gnash any good then?
[00:26] <SebNaitsabes> ,but the open source flash palyer lacks certain features and I have not tryed it
[00:27] <MrKennie> I don't think gnash can do videos yet (or probably never will)
[00:27] <jonathan_> i dont think id try buying music on beatport with gnash
[00:27] <mikedomo> not the adobeś non free plugin still better than gnash
[00:27] <jonathan_> hmmm......
[00:27] <mikedomo> :(
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> is there a way to choose which plugin for a flash video?
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> I mean
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> any flash
[00:27] <jonathan_> yeah
[00:27] <jonathan_> you get flash or gnash
[00:27] <jonathan_> thats the choice
[00:27] <mikedomo> yeah
[00:27] <lesergi> do I can get 8.6 version of ati driver from any repo or I must install with ATI installer??
[00:27] <SebNaitsabes> I meant have both installed
[00:28] <SebNaitsabes> and say I want this plugin  no I want that plugin
[00:28] <jonathan_> ....
[00:28] <SebNaitsabes> choose between the plugin
[00:28] <jonathan_> i guess you could
[00:28] <jonathan_> try it... if something breaks.... say a swear
[00:28] <mikedomo> use envy to inatall this graphic card
[00:28] <lesergi> 8.6 version?
[00:28] <init6> whats the best way to flash a DVD drives firmware with the applications don't work on linux to flash the drive?
[00:29] <MrKennie> personally I would like to see flash die a horrible death an d make the internet liveable again.
[00:29] <lesergi> mikedomo: I checked it, it's right
[00:29] <SebNaitsabes> could put the Windows versin of Firefox on and yeah in Wine, but then I would want the user agent changed :)  and always have my changed one.  so it says Linux not Windows, even though technically it's Wine,  but Wine is running in Linux anyway so
[00:29] <init6> lol@Mrkennie I right there with you on the flashing hoping to die
[00:29] <mikedomo> ok :) iesergi
[00:30] <lesergi> mikedomo: it seems be not-compiled version...
[00:30] <MrKennie> and that;s for silverlight, keep it. Why bother porting it mono guys, MS 0wn novell too!
[00:30] <jonathan_> action script 3 is good
[00:30] <MrKennie> sorry about the rant
[00:30] <jonathan_> but...
[00:30] <jonathan_> mainly made of ass
[00:30] <mikedomo> well
[00:30] <MrKennie> I've had to do some actionscript in my time.
[00:31] <MrKennie> as2.0 that is
[00:31] <jonathan_> i once used visual art software made in actionscript 3
[00:31] <jonathan_> fairly stable
[00:31] <lesergi> oh mikedomo, it is compiling now itself ^^
[00:31] <jonathan_> but i was using a mac though
[00:31] <jonathan_> mind you id rather set fire to my mac than use it
[00:32] <lesergi> mikedomo: thanks you very much, let's restart X server
[00:32] <lesergi> bye
[00:32] <MrKennie> although one pro for flash is that it has got rid of that nasty realplayer for *nix and everyone can watch videos again!
[00:32] <mikedomo> see ya
[00:32] <jonathan_> real player was made by hitler and satan
[00:32] <jonathan_> in one weekend
[00:32] <jonathan_> and they werent even really trying
[00:32] <MrKennie> at least the linux version was
[00:33] <jonathan_> oh yes
[00:33] <jonathan_> omg Real Player staff actually knew what linux was?
[00:33] <jonathan_> wow
[00:33] <jonathan_> -_-
[00:33] <MrKennie> it was hard to even find the download on their site I recall
[00:33] <MrKennie> had to google it
[00:33] <jonathan_> then they created Real Arcade
[00:33] <jonathan_> which.....
[00:33] <jonathan_> died
[00:33] <jonathan_> horribly
[00:34] <mikedomo> i dont like real player i love kaffeine
[00:34] <MrKennie> kaffeine is great, so is caffeine!
[00:34] <mikedomo> simple fast
[00:34] <mikedomo> awesome :)
[00:35] <MrKennie> give me that and amarok and my computerised life is complete
[00:36] <jonathan_> armarok scares me its playlist system confuses me
[00:36] <mikedomo> amarok with mysql as a database manager is amazig
[00:36] <MrKennie> it can take a while tog et used to but it's worth it
[00:36] <mikedomo> of music compilations
[00:36] <MrKennie> I tried that but got terribly slow
[00:36] <zhobbs> is it hard to switch to esd instead of arts?
[00:37] <jonathan_> ill give it another go but right now super happy idiot proof xmms keeps me happy
[00:37] <Githzerai> Hm, I prefere SMplayer, Amarok is...well..Amarok, but don't forget K3b and Konqueror ;)
[00:37] <jonathan_> what about  Foobar?
[00:37] <MrKennie> zhobbs: why would you want to use esd?
[00:37] <jonathan_> oh wait
[00:37] <mikedomo> k3b a great cd burner
[00:38] <MrKennie> oh, k3b!
[00:38] <zhobbs> MrKennie: I don't really, but there is an application that I have to use that seems to really want to use esd and won't work otherwise
[00:38] <jonathan_> i bought ut3 ages ago....... got it home.... then realised there is no linux client
[00:38] <jonathan_> o_o
[00:38] <MrKennie> zhobbs: oh, hmm. What application is that?
[00:38] <mikedomo> esd a daemon sound sounds very good when use xmms
[00:38] <jonathan_> ive been staring at the box of it all day
[00:38] <MrKennie> jonathan_: I thought there was
[00:38] <MrKennie> jonathan_: I remember playing the demo
[00:38] <jonathan_> nope
[00:38] <jonathan_> .....
[00:39] <jonathan_> i cant find the linux client anywhere
[00:39] <MrKennie> seriously
[00:39] <jonathan_> i have been everywhere
[00:39] <MrKennie> I used to paly wit ha buddy who used to hang out on here (freenode)
[00:39] <MrKennie> then he got the full version and I didn't :P
[00:40] <jonathan_> maybe there was a linux demo but there still is no linux full version
[00:40] <jonathan_> ah poo
[00:40] <zhobbs> MrKennie: closed source bete software
[00:40] <lesergi> fucking ATI card :'(
[00:40] <jonathan_> now what have we learned from this lesergi?
[00:40] <jonathan_> dont buy ATI ever
[00:40] <MrKennie> jonathan_: that sucks, I just googled and it seems to be something in the works
[00:41] <lesergi> why when I use 3D in my card computer halts!!!
[00:41] <lesergi> jonathan_: xD
[00:41] <jonathan_> yes in the works....... its being programmed by the Epic Games mascott ..... pan pan the fat hamster
[00:41] <MrKennie> zhobbs: that's strange, usually closed software goes for at least OSS
[00:41] <mikedomo> i use nvidia because the sopport for linux driver is better
[00:41] <zhobbs> yeah, it has oss mode, but doesn't work (even with artsdsp)
[00:41] <MrKennie> never known anything to depend on sound daemons but I live a simple life I guess.
[00:42] <lesergi> I'll change my ati card for girlsfriend nvidia card ^^
[00:42] <MrKennie> zhobbs: can you tell me what the program is?
[00:42] <jonathan_> i use nvidia because i like to be controled by a corperation whos logo looks like the All Seeing Eye
[00:42] <gurkentraeger> if you buy an nvidia they will tell you to buy an ati
[00:42] <lesergi> hahaha
[00:42] <mikedomo> hehehehehe
[00:43] <jonathan_> all hail the golden eye of zorgron king of the potato kingdom
[00:43]  * MrKennie bows
[00:43] <lesergi> so, really nvidia better in linux?
[00:43] <mikedomo> well in my case yes
[00:43] <jonathan_> nvidia is the true road...... do not listen to the others....... they are false profits
[00:43] <MrKennie> I've always stuck with nvidia where possible but I have an older ati card which using opensource drivers works very well.
[00:44] <lesergi> in my laptop I have an ATI card with no-problems...
[00:45] <Dragnslcr> If you're going for Linux support, you'd probably want Intel
[00:45] <mikedomo> yeah because the open ati drivers are released this year and for that reason ati drivers will very soon more stable tha nvidia`s drivers
[00:45] <jonathan_> is it just me or is the only way to make computer music with VST plugins and samplers?
[00:45] <MrKennie> Dragnslcr: I agree, kde4.1 with all the compiz stuff works brilliantly on my laptop which has Intel gfx
[00:46] <lesergi> 7 days left to 4.1 right?
[00:46] <MrKennie> or 8?
[00:46] <Githzerai> lesergi: 29. july
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> I'd guess that within a year or two, Intel's graphics chipsets will be powerful enough to do anything for normal desktop use
[00:46] <MrKennie> tagged 4.1 on tuesday and the following week it's realised
[00:46] <lesergi> so, 8 days xD
[00:46] <mikedomo> kde 4.1!
[00:47] <MrKennie> rc1 still needs lots of work though
[00:47] <lesergi> yeah
[00:47] <lesergi> kubuntu integration too
[00:47] <mikedomo> yeah i prefer use it in october
[00:47] <gurkentraeger> or maybe Mark Shuttleworth has a contract with nvidia... he just looks like  sth. gnaws at his conscience
[00:47] <MrKennie> 4.1 at rc1 is still way better than 4.0.x IMO
[00:48] <mikedomo> i hope so that
[00:48] <lesergi> so, can I do something to avoid computers reboot when I use 3D?????
[00:48] <Sydero> it's better, but very buggy
[00:48] <MrKennie> yea
[00:48] <MrKennie> lesergi: agp or pciex?
[00:48] <lesergi> agp
[00:49] <lesergi> I don't know what to do
[00:49] <MrKennie> soemtiems fast write can cause problems
[00:49] <MrKennie> if it's enabled int he bios
[00:49] <Sydero> ah good old fast write
[00:49] <lesergi> fast write, I must disable it, right?
[00:49] <Sydero> but now you can pay $60 for a DX10 card
[00:49] <MrKennie> if it's enabled yea, if not then it can't be that
[00:50] <MrKennie> usually it's disabled by default but who knows
[00:50] <lesergi> MrKennie: if it is disable, what can I do? :(
[00:51] <lesergi> I did not see  information about error in logs
[00:51] <MrKennie> lesergi: check agp aperture size, I've had problems with it set to high
[00:51] <Sydero> it doesn't need to be really anything if you have a lot of gfx memory
[00:51] <MrKennie> too high*
[00:52] <Phoenix92x> I'm running 8.04 and I'd like some help fixing my sound system. I have 5.1 speakers from a soundblaster audigy platinum ex and before was getting only 2 channels of sound. I forgot to backup a file I was editing I think it was pulse.conf in /etc for the pulseaudio system, and now I dont have sound. I want to be able to run speaker-test -c 6 and get sound out of all channels. Right now I'm getting *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[00:52] <Phoenix92x> Playback open error: -111,Connection refused
[00:52] <Phoenix92x>  
[00:52] <lesergi> aperture size? in bios too?
[00:52] <Sydero> yeah
[00:52] <MrKennie> aye
[00:52] <jonathan_> can anyone direct me to a linux music channel?
[00:52] <lesergi> oks
[00:53] <lesergi> MrKennie: thanks a lot, I'm goint to reboot and I turn back ::P
[00:53] <intelikey> why are all fruit cakes are baked on "yum echad hashabuwa" the first day of the week ?
[00:53] <intelikey> jonathan_ linux music ?
[00:53] <MrKennie> there used to be a radio show on here
[00:54] <Phoenix92x> um, basically, can anyone help me fix my pulseaudio system?
[00:54] <MrKennie> not anymore though, been a few years too. =(
[00:54]  * intelikey just wonders what linux music is ?
[00:54] <jonathan_> a irc for people making music on linux
[00:54] <Phoenix92x> why its the music of the kernel of course
[00:54] <MrKennie> oh, lol
[00:55] <intelikey> jonathan_ i'm still not sure i follow you,   but check !freeformats
[00:55] <jonathan_> hmm...... take the linux kernal...... pack it into a file.... change the file extention to .ogg and run it.
[00:55] <jonathan_> kernel*
[00:55] <homie> hi how can i change login manager ?
[00:56] <intelikey> heh jonathan_ cat /boot/vmlinuz* > /dev/dsp
[00:56] <jonathan_> as in a chatroom for poor people who wanna make music using linux stuff like Ardour and Rosegarden?
[00:56] <MrKennie> jonathan_: maybe there's an #ardour which should have more info?
[00:56] <intelikey> homie just install another one.
[00:56] <jonathan_> thanks at least its a start
[00:57] <Sydero> Are there any security apps we should install on linux i.e. a firewall configuring tool
[00:57] <MrKennie> I was playing around with Hydrogen yesterday. Very cool stuff.
[00:57] <homie> i have kdm and gdm i want to use kdm
[00:58] <lesergi> hi again
[00:58] <MrKennie> homie: dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm, doesn't matter which
[00:58] <MrKennie> lesergi: hi
[00:58] <lesergi> agp fast write was enabled, I disabled it
[00:58] <MrKennie> lesergi: OK, any luck?
[00:58] <lesergi> aperture from 64->32
[00:59] <lesergi> I did glxgears and no errors...
[00:59] <MrKennie> cool
[00:59] <lesergi> I'll play urban terror...
[00:59] <MrKennie> good luck :)
[00:59] <lesergi> I'll tell you
[00:59] <lesergi> thanks !!! :D
[01:00] <jonathan_> is urban terror any good?
[01:00] <MrKennie> I can't even remember what it is. I've not played games for well over a year now.
[01:00] <MrKennie> is it an addon for ET?
[01:00] <jonathan_> free counterstrike
[01:00] <jonathan_> basically
[01:01] <MrKennie> ah, I remember, yea it's a very good mod
[01:01] <jonathan_> i thought i t was a stand alone game
[01:01] <MrKennie> probably is by now
[01:01] <MrKennie> I remember playing it when it was a mod
[01:02] <MrKennie> a huge mod at that.
[01:02] <jonathan_> biggest free game on linux is free space 2....
[01:02] <jonathan_> oh my god its unbelivable
[01:03] <jonathan_> if you install it it basically installs every community made thing in one go for freespace 2
[01:03] <_2> jonathan_ there isn't any money in writing free games.
[01:03] <jonathan_> you will never finish it theres so much content
[01:03] <jonathan_> nope
[01:04] <anom01y> hi, I have 2 cameras, both are kodak easyshare cameras, but one is a c330, the other a c430
[01:04] <anom01y> one works in digikam, but the other does not
[01:04] <_2> set to disk mode anom01y ?
[01:04] <anom01y> _2: both set to auto
[01:04] <_2> set to disk mode anom01y
[01:05] <init6> So I am thinking the best way to flash my DVD drives firmware is to download ophcrack-xp-livecd and run the flash software from that. unless anyone has another idea on how to flash a DVD drives firmware in linux
[01:05] <MrKennie> not I
[01:05] <Dr_willis> move drive to another machine.
[01:06] <init6> they are all linux
[01:06] <Dr_willis> using a 'not quite legal' live cd.. is proberly against channel rules.. heh.. good luck
[01:06] <histo> init6: put the drive in a linux box
[01:06] <init6> It is,
[01:07] <init6> but all the software to flash the drive are .exe and wine wont let me flash it
[01:07] <MrKennie> probably not a good idea to try via wine anyway
[01:07] <Dr_willis> flashing from wine. would be a scary idea also.
[01:07] <init6> the software detects the drive and when I am about to do it. It doesn't get the correct info from the drive becauses it's going tthrough wine
[01:07] <anom01y> _2: ok will try that first
[01:08] <MrKennie> init6: I would guess check related forums/newsgroups. Not really the right place to discuss here.
[01:09] <init6> thats cool, I googled the crap out of this issue. This is normaly my last stop. Thanks thou.
[01:09] <MrKennie> :)
[01:09] <Nyle> hi
[01:09] <Nyle> I am using kubuntu hurdy 8.04
[01:09] <Nyle> its nice
[01:09] <MrKennie> great
[01:10] <MrKennie> :)
[01:10] <Nyle> its more friendly than debian
[01:10] <Nyle> and new
[01:10] <Nyle> and it  works
[01:10] <Nyle> but sometimes my pc freeze up and nothing works
[01:10] <Nyle> I ran full memtest and it seem to bo ok
[01:11] <histo> man is kde have some wierd issues.
[01:11] <Nyle> but sometimes I can move the mouse but everything elseis locked and sysrq don't work either
[01:11] <histo> Is there a way to hide windows from the taskbar that are on other desktops?
[01:11] <Nyle> histo, yes
[01:11] <MrKennie> Nyle: how's your CPU temp?
[01:11] <Nyle> show windows from workspace option somewhere in kcontrol
[01:11] <Nyle> MrKennie, hang on
[01:11] <MrKennie> Nyle: and which graphics card you got
[01:11] <Nyle> Core 0:      +48.0°C  (crit = +85.0°C)
[01:11] <Nyle> Core 1:      +48.0°C  (crit = +85.0°C)
[01:12]  * Githzerai wonders where are all those Debian lovers now? They missed that and it works part... :D
[01:12] <MrKennie> looks sweet
[01:12] <Nyle> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz
[01:12] <MrKennie> ok, CPU is no problem. Graphics card?
[01:12] <Nyle> which sensors read it?
[01:12] <Nyle> i don't know how to configure to find temp of gfx
[01:13] <Nyle> what program to use
[01:13] <MrKennie> oh, no I mean which one you got?
[01:13] <MrKennie> sorry, I should have been more specific :)
[01:13] <Nyle> X1900 XTX w/ fglrx (from kubuntu)
[01:13] <Nyle> 256mb
[01:13] <MrKennie> hmm
[01:13] <Nyle> r580 chipset
[01:13] <lesergi> MrKennie: I love you :P
[01:13] <Nyle> amd64 kubuntu
[01:14] <lesergi> It works fine
[01:14] <MrKennie> lesergi: I'm pleased it works :)
[01:14] <Nyle> i use ubuntu/kubuntu every single time on every single release
[01:14] <Nyle> and every time it makes me angry because it dont' works
[01:14] <Nyle> and i have to go back into the debian
[01:14] <MrKennie> Nyle: I will hand this over to the ATI exports, I don't have much experience with ATI.
[01:14] <lesergi> haha
[01:14] <Nyle> but this one new is good
[01:14] <MrKennie> experts*
[01:14] <Nyle> this new kubuntu is work nice
[01:14] <Nyle> but sometimes i got lockups
[01:15] <admin_> hey guys, if anyone if good with kernel updating and grub, please see if you can answer my question, thanks. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865545
[01:15] <Nyle> sometime pc work fine for days and sometime I have it crash 10 times in a day
[01:15] <MrKennie> Nyle: Although it may not be the ATI driver, ATI are not known for great drivers unfortunatley :(
[01:15] <MrKennie> or AMD/ATI as it is now
[01:15] <Nyle> there is no 3d support in radeonhd yet
[01:15] <Nyle> and the one from git doesn't build these days
[01:16] <kaiwen> hey, does anyone know how to get shortcuts working under kde 4.1?
[01:16] <Nyle> they may have fixed it but it is still a little sketchy
[01:16] <kaiwen> the gui to create shortcuts is useless
[01:16] <Nyle> ask #kde also
[01:16] <kaiwen> i did
[01:16] <Nyle> ok
[01:16] <MrKennie> Nyle: hang around for someone experienced with ATI, I can't really be of much help, sorry.
[01:16] <kaiwen> ati?
[01:16] <Nyle> thank you
[01:16] <kaiwen> :D
[01:16] <kaiwen> what's yoru problem
[01:17] <Nyle> its not a gfx card issue
[01:17] <kaiwen> i just got here
[01:17] <Nyle> it happen also sometime in radeon driver
[01:17] <Nyle> or driver issue
[01:17] <Nyle> there is no logs nothing
[01:17] <Nyle> just system lockup randomly, no input works, sysrq + stuff doesn't work
[01:17] <kaiwen> ok
[01:17] <Nyle> sysrq + b doesn't reboot
[01:17] <kaiwen> what is your cpu usage when it locks up
[01:17] <Nyle> i have to hard reset
[01:18] <Nyle> how could I know
[01:18] <kaiwen> run system manager
[01:18] <Nyle> uhm
[01:18] <Nyle> dude
[01:18] <kaiwen> or whatever shows cpu usage
[01:18] <Nyle> do you understand what I'm saying?
[01:18] <kaiwen> yes i do
[01:18] <kaiwen> yoru system locks up b/c of the radeon driver
[01:18] <Nyle> no
[01:18] <histo> wtf anytime I minimize or close limewire to the taskbar by the clock I can't get focus back for the mouse
[01:18] <Nyle> its not a driver issue
[01:18] <Nyle> :)
[01:18] <kaiwen> then it's a cpu issue
[01:19] <kaiwen> what's ur cpu
[01:19] <Nyle> model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz
[01:19] <kaiwen> ok
[01:19] <kaiwen> hmm...
[01:19] <kaiwen> some people have problems with high cpu usage when idle
[01:19] <kaiwen> it causes random freezes at random times
[01:19] <Nyle> not frequently
[01:20] <Nyle> but when it does happen, it happens many times in a row
[01:20] <Nyle> but then its fine again
[01:20] <Nyle> its not a heat issue either
[01:20] <Nyle> I can't narrow down it
[01:20] <kaiwen> what type of memory do u have
[01:20] <Nyle> i tested psu with psu tester
[01:20] <Nyle> I made memtest for many complete full passes
[01:20] <kaiwen> ic
[01:20] <kaiwen> so it just randomly freezes? nothing responds?
[01:20] <Nyle> correct
[01:20] <kaiwen> ok
[01:21] <kaiwen> have you tried restarting X while it is frozen?
[01:21] <kaiwen> ctr alt backspace
[01:21] <Nyle> input doesn't work
[01:21] <kaiwen> ic
[01:21] <Nyle> if sysrq+b doesn't work, nothing will
[01:21] <kaiwen> well idk about that problem..
[01:21] <Nyle> its not aproblem
[01:21] <kaiwen> if it is a video driver prob. i can help
[01:21] <kaiwen> if not, idk
[01:22] <Nyle> all kernels these days are compiled with magic sysrq support
[01:22] <Nyle> as does debian and in turn ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:22] <MrKennie> kaiwen: type dmesg in konsole and seee if you get and seek/request errors
[01:22] <kaiwen> ok
[01:22] <MrKennie> any*
[01:22] <MrKennie> er, not kawain sorry, Nyle
[01:23] <Nyle> kaiwen, http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm
[01:23] <kaiwen> lol
[01:23] <Nyle> no
[01:23] <Nyle> here are no ata errors in syslog
[01:23] <kaiwen> idk man
[01:23] <kaiwen> can't help u there
[01:24] <Nyle> nothing in dmesg output
[01:24] <MrKennie> Nyle: you have tested the card in Windows?
[01:24] <Nyle> kaiwen, look at that link, you may find it useful
[01:24] <Dr_willis> seems most lockups i have are either drives dieing.. or video drivers crashing..
[01:24] <Nyle> MrKennie, it all works fine in windows and debian
[01:24] <MrKennie> ok
[01:24] <kaiwen> Nyle: what for.
[01:25] <Nyle> if you dont' look, you will never know :)
[01:25] <kaiwen> i'm looking at it now
[01:25] <Dr_willis> if on a lan, you could ssh in, and keep an eye on things and hope to catch some info.  You could also try the  non-acelerated drivers for your video card if you can.
[01:25] <MrKennie> Nyle: I had a similar issue with a machine of mine which turned out to be the SATA cable but I was having intermittent boot problems too.
[01:25] <kaiwen> i don't need it though ;)
[01:25] <Nyle> MrKennie, I see
[01:26] <Nyle> MrKennie, I also went through that once
[01:26] <Nyle> MrKennie, I changed the cable and my disks were no longer being recognized as BzBzBzBzBzBz but by the correct drive name/serial#
[01:27] <Nyle> kaiwen, you saying you could never use that info I told you about?
[01:27] <MrKennie> Nyle: what is your kernel version? uname -a in konsole
[01:27] <Dr_willis> I had an ide cable once. with one wire on the edge..just barely cut  by a sharp edge on the case. :) took me forever to discover that.
[01:27] <Nyle> ok buddy... your choice.  It is VERY useful when you need it... then again if you don't care.. go ahead and reboot
[01:28] <kaiwen> Nyle: well i don't need it right now ;)
[01:28] <kaiwen> Nyle: my problem is about shortcuts in kde 4.1
[01:29] <Nyle> I am aware of that
[01:29] <kaiwen> the gui configuration is broken
[01:29] <kaiwen> i'll book mark it to make u happy
[01:29] <kaiwen> ;)
[01:29] <Nyle> you don't honestly believe I'd tell you about the magis sysrq key in reponse to your original query, do you?
[01:29] <MrKennie> Nyle: type uname -r in konsole, and tell us your result.
[01:29] <Nyle> Linux desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 21:01:46 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:29] <MrKennie> ok, all upto date.
[01:29] <Nyle> daily updates
[01:29] <Nyle> I love the adept update manager
[01:30] <Nyle> kubuntu has come a long way
[01:30] <MrKennie> how recent? I think there was a restricted modules update today
[01:30] <Nyle> I update everyday
[01:30] <Nyle> actually
[01:30] <Nyle> whenever I see a notice to update
[01:30] <MrKennie> ok
[01:30] <Nyle> nah no updates in console either
[01:31] <Nyle> no package lists were diff'd
[01:31] <MrKennie> Nyle: not really sure, it could be many things.
[01:31] <Nyle> yeh buddy
[01:31] <Nyle> I'm also scratching my head
[01:31] <Nyle> :)
[01:31] <MrKennie> Nyle: most common cause for that is graphics and hdd like others have mentioned here.
[01:31] <Nyle> it maybe be a hardware issue
[01:31] <Nyle> this system is 2 years old
[01:31] <Nyle> maybe the motherboard is giving out?
[01:32] <MrKennie> maybe your PSU is faulty, that can cause it.
[01:32] <Nyle> 2 of 4 ram slots are dead
[01:32] <Dr_willis> When in doubt.. open it up. give it a good cleaning.. check all cables/reseat the ram, and so forth.
[01:32] <MrKennie> motherboard could have a fault.
[01:32] <Nyle> Dr_willis, done it
[01:32] <Dr_willis> 2 of 4? icky. :) thats not a good sign.
[01:32] <Nyle> i know
[01:32] <Nyle> ;)
[01:32] <MrKennie> oh
[01:32] <Nyle> I mean to upgrade soon, just a funding issue atm
[01:32] <MrKennie> well you never mentioend that :)
[01:32] <Nyle> it may verywell be the mobo
[01:32] <Nyle> I just remembered
[01:32] <Nyle> I apologize
[01:33] <MrKennie> I could well put money on your mobo then
[01:33] <MrKennie> being the fault
[01:33] <Nyle> oh
[01:33] <Dr_willis> there were a lot of bad capaciaters being used a few years back.
[01:33] <Nyle> I thought you were going to buy me a new mobo
[01:33] <Nyle> :)
[01:33] <MrKennie> haha
[01:33] <Dr_willis> seeing a lot of death of MB's  lately at work. :)
[01:33] <Nyle> put _your_ money on _my_ motherboard
[01:33] <Nyle> ;)
[01:33] <Nyle> hw manufacturers have gotten cheap
[01:34] <MrKennie> yea, when I was in teh trade a couple fo years ago, bursting/leaking caps were common
[01:34] <anom01y> hi, I have 2 cameras, both are kodak easyshare cameras, but one is a c330, the other a c430
[01:34] <Nyle> yup
[01:34] <anom01y> one works in digikam, but the other does not
[01:34] <Nyle> I've seen very much leakage on video card caps too
[01:34] <Nyle> and modems
[01:34] <Nyle> made recently for dialup
[01:35] <MrKennie> Nyle: welp, I would start saving for a new mobo, other than that I can't offer any more suggestions
[01:37] <miraclemaxim> why did u guys decide it's a faulty mobo instead of a faulty graphics card
[01:37] <miraclemaxim> nevermind i read up
[01:37] <MrKennie> nobody has decided from where I'm sitting
[01:38] <MrKennie> it's a case of why waste time on soemthing already faulty I guess
[01:38] <miraclemaxim> if it works fine in debian and windows why would it be the mobo
[01:38] <histo> Alright how do I remove kubuntu-desktop now?
[01:38] <histo> Tried KDE for a while not a big fan.
[01:39] <histo> Maybe try it again when 4 comes out mainstream.
[01:39] <MrKennie> miraclemaxim: if you have any suggestions that can help Nyle then fine. I'm out of ideas.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> !puregnome
[01:39] <miraclemaxim> well no suggestion is better than a bad suggestion
[01:40] <MrKennie> it's bad to suggest replacing a faulty mothergboard?
[01:40] <miraclemaxim> from what i can tell his mobo sounds fine
[01:40] <MrKennie> you missed the part where he mentions 2 ram slots are dead?
[01:41] <jonathan_> omg.....
[01:42] <jonathan_> i found the mother load of VSt plugins
[01:42] <jonathan_> O_O
[01:50] <MrKennie> I have a problem where switching to another user sometimes kills my session. Any ideas? :)
[01:51] <Nyle> thanks
[01:51] <Nyle> I think so too MrKennie
[01:52] <Nyle> what is a good chipset to go with, something for core2 or better, with pref. 4gb ram max don't need 8, and onboard intel gfx
[01:52] <Nyle> something good enough to do 3d gaming under ubuntu for ubutugames.org site
[01:52] <Nyle> like nexiuz, open arena etc. etc.
[01:52] <MrKennie> Nyle: well, I hope you find a solution soon so you can enjoy kubuntu :)
[01:53] <Nyle> currently I have ich8(r)
[01:53] <MrKennie> Nyle: I'm using nforce4 with an AMD NB which is pretty old now.
[01:53] <Nyle> oh, and I may also require PATA support
[01:54] <Nyle> pref. chipset based and not a 3rd party controller
[01:54] <Nyle> but I heard intel dropped support for pata lately
[01:55] <MrKennie> Nyle: I'm a bit out of touch with the latest and greatest
[01:55] <Nyle> are you very old?
[01:55] <Nyle> like a grampa?
[01:55] <Nyle> :)
[01:55] <MrKennie> haha no
[01:55] <Nyle> just wondering
[01:55] <Nyle> hehe
[01:55] <kaiwen> i am
[01:56] <kaiwen> i'm like
[01:56] <kaiwen> 18
[01:56] <histo> God for some reason can't get rid of kio-umountwrapper
[01:56] <MrKennie> I wonder if I'm the oldest here
[01:56] <histo> Getting errors removing it.
[01:56] <Nyle> MrKennie, how old are you?
[01:56] <histo> 28
[01:56] <MrKennie> 33
[01:56] <Nyle> histo, please pastebin your output
[01:56] <histo> k
[01:56] <Nyle> <--- 27
[01:57] <MrKennie> I feel old now
[01:57] <histo> !paste
[01:57] <Nyle> you shouldn't feel old
[01:57] <MrKennie> grampa #kubuntu
[01:57] <Nyle> Grumpubuntu! Ubuntu for the Grumpy Grampa Human Beings
[01:58] <Nyle> hehe
[01:58] <MrKennie> I should grow a beard like RMS and become an OSS evangelist
[01:58] <stmiller> 8
[01:59] <histo> Nyle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28871/
[02:00] <MrKennie> although like it or not, RMS is alot more intelligent than me
[02:00] <histo> Thats the last kde package I have left to remove.
[02:01] <Nyle> I think he is very intelligent, though a comparison is futile
[02:01] <MrKennie> histo: are any kio services still running?
[02:02] <histo> well I tried ps aux | grep kio and see nothing
[02:02] <Nyle> no
[02:02] <Nyle> its not that
[02:02] <Nyle> its to do with diversions
[02:02] <histo> Any way to fix it?
[02:02] <Nyle> something I can't recall but it has to do with a package perhaps ovewriting some files
[02:02] <Nyle> from another package
[02:02] <Nyle> or the opposite of that or I dunno its something along those lines
[02:03] <MrKennie> you could try dpkg -r --force-all but I only do that in extreme cases.
[02:03] <Nyle>        dpkg-divert - override a package’s version of a file
[02:03] <Nyle> no
[02:03] <Nyle> don't force
[02:03] <Nyle> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop': No such file or directory
[02:03] <Nyle> try this
[02:04] <Nyle> sudo touch /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop
[02:04] <Nyle> and then try to remove the package again
[02:04] <Nyle> what is d3lphin anyway? never heard of it
[02:04] <MrKennie> never seen it spelt like that
[02:05] <MrKennie> dolphin
[02:05] <Nyle> I know about dolphin though
[02:05] <MrKennie> which is the file manager.
[02:05] <Nyle> maybe it has something to do with delphi?
[02:05] <Nyle> not sure
[02:05] <histo> don't know something with kio aparently
[02:05] <Nyle> well, as sudo try to touch the file
[02:05] <Nyle> though i doubt it will work
[02:05] <Nyle> maybe you could cp a this .desktop file from the diff location to this one, and perhaps dpkg-divert won't give you an error
[02:06] <histo> It can't touch it because it doens't exist
[02:06] <histo> I tried creating it too that didn't work
[02:06] <Nyle> histo, man touch
[02:06] <histo> You can't use touch on a file that isn't there.
[02:06] <Nyle> yes
[02:06] <Nyle> histo, try "touch ~/histo_sucks"
[02:07] <Nyle> you will get a blank file
[02:07] <Nyle> with that filename
[02:07] <MrKennie> the path doesn't exist
[02:07] <Nyle> what is d3lphin man
[02:07] <Phoenix92x> I completely screwed my sound up and have none, could someone please help me get alsa working? I've been trying to get it working with 5.1 sound now for a few hours, sound card is Audigy
[02:07] <histo> Yes but you can't touch wihtin a path that isn't there.
[02:07] <Nyle> histo, oh yes
[02:08] <Nyle> you're right about that
[02:08] <histo> A file manager for kde
[02:10] <MrKennie> looks like a force would be safe
[02:10] <MrKennie> I can't see what can be affected by it
[02:10] <histo> Yeah especially since I don't need kde anymore
[02:11] <histo> Force didn't even get rid of it.
[02:12] <histo> It appears its partially removed its showing a status of rH in dpkg
[02:12] <MrKennie> I wonder if it's because konq and dolphin are sim,ialr in functionality and dpkg-divert enables you to use one or the other.
[02:13] <histo> Man this sucks
[02:15] <histo> ahh its a bug trying a fix
[02:16] <histo> sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/
[02:17] <histo> sry wrong window
[02:17] <Nyle> actually
[02:17] <Nyle> in this case
[02:17] <histo> Just created that directory and made a file in there and it remove kio its a bug
[02:17] <Nyle> you can just even force it and i think it will be fine
[02:18] <Nyle> ok
[02:18] <histo> bug 186729
[02:18] <histo> Forcing it didn't work.
[02:18] <Nyle> you found it
[02:18] <Nyle> cool good job
[02:18] <Nyle> you are the man
[02:18] <Nyle> :)
[02:19] <histo> ty all for your help
[02:20] <FastPutty> Gell guys need a quick help with Wine
[02:20] <FastPutty> i cannot start my games.. is there a way to figure out the problem?
[02:20] <MrKennie> have you configure wine?
[02:20] <FastPutty> i just install it and run it
[02:20] <MrKennie> run winecfg
[02:21] <FastPutty> ok
[02:21] <FastPutty> and?
[02:21] <MrKennie> not much needs to be changed really, jsut go through each tab, expecially sound.
[02:21] <FastPutty> hmm ok
[02:21] <FastPutty> seem not having porblem anywhere..
[02:22] <MrKennie> sound tab you should have at least alsa selected.
[02:22] <MrKennie> you probably want oss too. Some games are touch and go with alsa.
[02:22] <FastPutty> hmm sound could stop the game to work?
[02:22] <MrKennie> not always
[02:23] <FastPutty> hmmm
[02:23] <MrKennie> if you are happy with everything click apply or ok or whatever
[02:23] <FastPutty> hmmm
[02:23] <FastPutty> tat not fixing my problem xD
[02:24] <MrKennie> then the easiest way to see what's happening is to go in konsole and type wine path/to/exe
[02:24] <FastPutty> i did
[02:24] <MrKennie> and?
[02:24] <FastPutty> nothing appear
[02:24] <FastPutty> look like it runing
[02:24] <FastPutty> but i dont see anythinjg appear
[02:24] <FastPutty> top show me wineserver running and the Exe file too
[02:25] <FastPutty> so no one has an idea?
[02:25] <MrKennie> what are you trying to run?
[02:25] <FastPutty> ragnarok online
[02:26] <MrKennie> is it in http://appdb.winehq.org/ ?
[02:26] <Jucato> #winehq too
[02:27] <Jucato> but if your version of Ragnarok Online uses GameGuard, no it won't run in Wine
[02:27] <FastPutty> nah
[02:28] <FastPutty> im playing ina  private server o_o
[02:28] <FastPutty> err:seh:setup_exception_record stack overflow 1324 bytes in thread 0009 eip 7b844bca esp 00230e04 stack 0x230000-0x231000-0x330000
[02:28] <MrKennie> check the appdb, there maybe comments there that might help you, or what Jucato suggested
[02:29] <MrKennie> (#winehq)
[02:31] <flajann> http://www.linuxbloke.com/ -- KDE Konsole Backgrounds and ssh sessions
[02:39] <MrKennie> bb
[02:41] <Len_> Greetings
[02:41] <Len_> Ooookey
[02:53] <shaffy> does anyone know how to make a script run in a terminal window (i.e. so you can see what is being output from the script)?
[02:54] <Dontrelle> shaffy:   ./myscript.sh  for bash scripts
[02:56] <shaffy> Dontrelle:  i'm not sure if i'm following.  maybe i should be a bit more explicit.  i made a simple wget script, and i run it from my "alt-f2" console.  however, i don't get to see the process take place (i believe it runs in the background).
[02:57] <Dontrelle> shaffy: does the script output lines using "echo"?
[02:59] <shaffy> Dontrelle: http://pastebin.com/d1375735a
[03:01] <Dontrelle> shaffy: I see what you mean now. I'm not sure why it doesn't show the output
[03:02] <Walzmyn> amarok is saying it does not have mp3 support, when i click to install nothing happens.
[03:02] <shaffy> Dontrelle: if i was to use "echo", do i just put it in front of the wget command?
[03:02] <hmorales> hello
[03:02] <Walzmyn> hi
[03:05] <Dontrelle> shaffy: If running the command via a terminal window outputs the progress, then it should do the same thing in the script that you wrote.
[03:24] <Dr_willis> i would just make a script that called the other script with 'xterm -e scriptname' :)
[03:50] <manager> selam
[03:52] <manager> hi
[03:52] <manager__> hi
[03:54] <mr---t-> !hi
[04:04] <shaffy> can anyone please help me with this aptitude error?  http://pastebin.com/d288cdd70
[04:07] <genii> shaffy: Have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[04:07] <mot_> is the kde 4.1 RC1 in the repos yet?
[04:08] <genii> mot_: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[04:08] <shaffy>  genii:  yes, it is enabled.  so puzzling.
[04:09] <genii> shaffy: Could you pastebin result of: apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin
[04:10] <mot_> also
[04:10] <mot_> what does it mean when i try to apt-get upgrade and packages have been 'kept back'?
[04:10] <shaffy> genii here is another error message when i go about trying to uninstall firefox-2.   http://pastebin.com/d4bb2623f
[04:10] <shaffy> and yes, i will paste that next for you
[04:11] <shaffy> genii: here you go http://pastebin.com/d4201614a
[04:11] <genii> shaffy: Looks like the two errors are related
[04:12] <shaffy> any ideas genii?
[04:12] <shaffy> how do i do this: "This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)"
[04:13] <genii> shaffy: No immediate ones, the version it complains about not being able to install is same version apt says is available to install
[04:13] <genii> shaffy: Are you on 64bit ?
[04:15] <shaffy> genii: no
[04:15] <felix> hola
[04:15] <genii> !es | felix
[04:15] <shaffy> genii: i'm trying apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[04:16] <genii> shaffy: Conceivably corrupted file in /var/cache/apt/archives of sun-java6 deb files
[04:18] <Kernel> hello all. im using fluxbox and im wondering what the app is called that alerts you of updates?...
[04:18] <Kernel> id like to start it when i log into fluxbox
[04:20] <shaffy> genii: it appears sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin worked.  i no longer receive errors and sudo aptitude upgrade now works (it was not in the beginning).  i think apt-get forced the install of the package?
[04:21] <genii> shaffy: Maybe it could not install that as a dependency automatically since I believe it needs a user input of agreement to continue installing it
[04:22] <shaffy> that's interesting genii, as when i tried to do the upgrade via adept, it did prompt me to agree, however, an error kept arising, that would thus render me with the error i initially came to you with.  it appears aptitude was not able to solve the problem?
[04:23] <shaffy> that is, if adept manager is a gui of aptitude (and not apt-get)
[04:24] <genii> Kernel: The KDE one is adept-notifier. But you may want to use another if using flux and not KDE. The gnome one is just update-notifier
[04:24] <genii> shaffy: It seems so. I generally use apt-get instead of aptitude so not overly familiar with it
[04:25] <Kernel> genii: ah ok. awesome. thanks :-)
[04:25] <shaffy> thanks for you input genii.  much appreciated.  have a great night/day. :)
[04:25] <genii> Kernel: np
[04:25] <genii> shaffy: You too :)
[04:45] <gabe1002> hello, I am getting a grub error 15 message when I turn my PC on. What can I do to get my data stored in my hardrive??? will I lose it?
[04:47] <gabe1002> hello, I am getting a grub error 15 message when I turn my PC on. What can I do to get my data stored in my hardrive??? will I lose it?
[04:47] <genii> gabe1002: Did you add/remove/switch around drives lately?
[04:47] <gabe1002> no at all
[04:48] <gabe1002> no at all
[04:48] <genii> This would include having an external USB,firewire disk plugged in at boot, or a usb storage stick
[04:48] <gabe1002> are you talking to me genii?
[04:48] <genii> gabe1002: Yes
[04:49] <gabe1002> sorry I'm not sure what you meant by that
[04:49] <genii> gabe1002: Do you have any external hard drives or usb storage?
[04:49] <gabe1002> oh no, it's my internal hard drive
[04:50] <gabe1002> I had the OS installed and suddenly it won't boot. I get this grub 15 error message instead
[04:51] <genii> gabe1002: Did it boot at all into linux, or the error was right after install?
[04:51] <gabe1002> it did boot for a couple of days
[04:51] <gabe1002> that was 3 days ago
[04:52] <genii> gabe1002: Did you shut it down while it was trying to run updates?
[04:52] <gabe1002> no, everything was find and like I said, today it just decided not to boot
[04:53] <genii> gabe1002: OK. Are you on the livecd right now or another computer?
[04:53] <gabe1002> I'm using my lap top my my desktop is the one with this problem
[04:54] <gabe1002> but I can boot a live cd if that's needed
[04:54] <genii> gabe1002: It's useful to boot to livecd on affected box so disk can be examined and so on
[04:54] <gabe1002> ok it's loading right now
[04:55] <genii> gabe1002: I may not be here much longer for prolonged assistance but hopefully someone else can also help
[04:55] <gabe1002> ok I got it ready
[04:55] <gabe1002> please just tell me what command to run in terminal to rebuild the grub
[04:56] <Sydero> Is there a way to reset the desktop (wallpaper with icons)?
[04:56] <Sydero> in kde
[04:58] <genii> gabe1002: It's not that simple, since the affected disk is not the disk we are booted into from livecd. It will want to rebuild the gub of the livecd
[05:00] <genii> !pastebin | gabe1002 Please use pastebin to post results of command: sudo fdisk -l
[05:00] <genii> just sudo fdisk -l    without the : which bot added
[05:00] <Sydero> brb I'm about to try something very stupid
[05:03] <gabe1002> Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB 200049647616 bytes
[05:03] <gabe1002> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[05:03] <genii> gabe1002: PASTEBIN please and not into the channel here
[05:03] <gabe1002> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:04] <gabe1002> Disk identifier: 0x1549f232
[05:04] <genii> !pastebin
[05:04] <gabe1002> sorry, I can't paste I'm using my lap top and my desk top has the commands
[05:05] <genii> gabe1002: If you have the machine booted to livecd then it should be able to use the network, so to come here from the desktop with konversation or so
[05:06] <Sydero> yaaah I survived
[05:06] <gabe1002> ok I'll be back
[05:14]  * genii sips his coffee and looks at his watch
[05:16]  * elo wonders if anybody will come alive anytime soon
[05:17] <Sydero> I am
[05:17] <Sydero> messing around with my kde 4.1
[05:17] <Nyle> how is it working out so far?
[05:17] <Nyle> Istill have not given it a try
[05:18] <Sydero> good
[05:18] <Sydero> just deleted .kde & .kde4
[05:18] <Sydero> which helped
[05:18] <Nyle> i'm waiting for a official stable 4.1 release
[05:18] <Sydero> 4.0 is still buggy
[05:19] <janhaj> :)
[05:19] <Sydero> however...
[05:20] <Sydero> with 4.1
[05:20] <Sydero> I can't link the windows key to the k-menu
[05:20] <Sydero> the 3rd level window key setting trick doesn't work
[05:20] <Sydero> which is stupid
[05:21] <Sydero> and viewing a video file crashes dolphin
[05:21] <Sydero> well the icon itself
[05:23] <elo> Sydero do u know why it resets my panels to blank everytime i restart?
[05:23] <elo> the panel is blank yet it shows the widgets as being present
[05:24] <Sydero> no :S
[05:24] <Sydero> maybe deleting .kde4 will fix it :P
[05:24] <elo> what did deleting .kde and .kde4 do?
[05:24] <Sydero> reset the settings
[05:24] <Gustin> removes your kde settings
[05:25] <Sydero> i.e. chosen fonts
[05:25] <Sydero> dpi
[05:25] <Gustin> basically puts it back to the defaults next time you login
[05:25] <elo> i think i should do that too
[05:25] <elo> 4.1 is acting like such a baby
[05:25] <Sydero> it fixed a hell of a lot with 4.1
[05:26] <elo> Sydero: http://paste.ubuntu.com/28900/ <--- any idea how to fix that
[05:27] <Sydero> sorry no idea, I'm still a newbie
[05:28] <Sydero> wait
[05:28] <mr---t-> !kde4
[05:28] <Sydero> hmmm
[05:28] <Sydero> nope*
[05:29] <Sydero> I mainly only use adept since it handles dependencies as well
[05:30] <elo> mr---t-,  i know it can be found in the kde4 channel, but there isn't really anybody alive in there and since Sydero  brought it up I thought I might as well ask, thanks for your amazing insight and widsom
[05:30] <Sydero> why not try ./configure & make ;)
[05:30] <Sydero> then make install
[05:30] <Sydero> or something
[05:31] <Sydero> instead of cmake...
[05:31] <elo> cmake should have done any configuring
[05:31] <Sydero> k
[05:32] <Sydero> all I see is a bunch of not found things
[05:32] <elo> plus it seems ./configure doesnt even work in setting up plasmoids
[05:34] <mr---t-> elo: just trying to be helpful this is a help channel
[05:34] <elo> like i said, i thank you... again
[05:36] <ahmos> hi, i want a good pro. for editing sound tracks
[05:36] <elo> u want a prostitute for sound editing?
[05:36] <SebNaitsabes> lol
[05:37] <ahmos> programme
[05:37] <elo> ohhhhhhhh
[05:37] <ahmos> :)
[05:38] <elo> ;)
[05:38] <Sydero> pro. usually stands for professional ;)
[05:38] <elo> nothing like a little fun
[05:38] <ahmos> sure
[05:39] <Sydero> download all of the programs from the repositories ;)
[05:40] <Sydero> and try them out :P
[05:40] <ahmos> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:40] <elo> i guess u could start out with audacity
[05:40] <elo> but God help u with getting ur sound device figured out satisfactorily
[05:41] <ahmos> plz god help me
[05:41] <ahmos> and what a bout kwave i just found it in the repo
[05:41] <Sydero> I wouldn't trust k apps
[05:41] <Sydero> in general
[05:41] <Sydero> to do the job
[05:42] <ahmos> because of crashes or why?
[05:43] <elo> probably because most K programs are not made for specific stuff
[05:43] <elo> rather they ar emostly made just to have a K program to try and do the job
[05:43] <elo> no offense anybody, just my opinion
[05:44] <ahmos> ah.... so thank u all for help ;)
[05:44] <Sydero> they don't usually focus on what the thing is about
[05:44] <Sydero> rather they create something that gets the job done
[05:45] <Sydero> well that's my impression anyways
[05:45] <ahmos> i see now ..thank's alot :)
[05:46] <ahmos> bye
[05:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> help i'm having trouble, opening up html files that i've saved on folders, as soon as i get the mouse pointer on top of the file i get the following error from dolphin :/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[05:58] <grendal_prime> this is probably going to sound stupid..but hey..im alittle stupid when it comes to this varriant of debian.
[05:59] <grendal_prime> im very used to using the /etc/network/interfaces file to conf all my networking needs...thing is...kubuntu has the network manager app and the wireless radio locator...but it seems like they never work right for me.  do i need to do smething different with the interfaces file to get the netmanager to work right?
[07:03] <gkffjcs> where dose kde store the .desktop files used in kmenu?
[07:04] <bdizzle> hello?
[07:04] <bdizzle> I'm looking for a quick program to measure the heat in my laptop, does anyone have any suggestions?
[07:05] <jussi01> !sensors
[07:07] <anom01y> how come a certain digital camera works on Sidux but not kubuntu ?
[07:08] <bdizzle> jussi01, I'm running sensors-detect right now, and it came up saying "Load 'i2c-i801' (say NO if built into your kernel)? (YES/no):
[07:08] <bdizzle> is it?
[07:08] <jussi01> ive no idea to be honest
[07:12] <anom01y> does anyone know if 512mb ram (-64mb for video card) is ok for kubuntu to run on (installed to hd) ??
[07:19] <jussi01> anom01y: yes, that should be fine
[07:19] <jussi01> anom01y: I have run on that before no probs
[07:19] <anom01y> jussi01: well it seems kinda slow
[07:20] <jussi01> anom01y: you may want to try one of the lighter desktops like fluxbox or xfce though
[07:20] <jussi01> !fluxbuntu
[07:20] <anom01y> Im not sure if the reason why its slow is because of the lack of memory or if I dont have the video drivers properly installed
[07:20] <jussi01> anom01y: which video card?
[07:45] <desk> Bonjour
[07:46] <desk> Itta-est
[07:46] <desk> delly-mede
[07:46] <desk> loo-we-doo
[07:46] <desk_> doo-we-doo
[07:47] <_2> yeah howdy
[07:47] <_2> !fr
[07:47] <desk_> yup how ya doing
[07:47] <desk_> na just messing about
[07:47] <desk_> :D
[07:48] <desk_> where ya from ?
[07:48] <_2> !help
[07:48] <_2> !support
[07:57] <anom01y> jussi01: ati 330m/340m/350m
[07:57] <anom01y> not sure if thats the problem or not
[07:57] <jussi01> anom01y: got the restricted drivers installed?
[07:58] <jussi01> !ati | anom01y
[08:17] <posingaspopular> tip: you can look at previous text you've sent using irssi via the up arrow key or scrolling up on the mouse. im very proud of myself for learning this.
[08:17] <Jucato> posingaspopular: blog about it too! :)
[08:17] <Jucato> (glad to see your old nick again btw :P)
[08:17] <posingaspopular> Jucato: another string of useless blogs by me... lol ;p
[08:18] <posingaspopular> ot
[08:18] <Jucato> <offtopic />
[08:18] <posingaspopular> it's been disappointing, when i come in here there is nothing to fix
[08:19] <_2> posingaspopular fix my atheros wifi   :)
[08:20] <posingaspopular> _2: whats the issue?
[08:20] <Jucato> it's an atheros. that's what :)
[08:20] <posingaspopular> i bought a system76 computer specifically to run ubuntu and avoid hardware issues, but i'll try
[08:21] <_2> well   1. it's atheros.    2. running dapper lts.   3. never messed with wifi before...    need i say more ?
[08:21] <posingaspopular> hmm
[08:21] <Jucato> yep... but I won't say it :)
[08:22] <posingaspopular> to scan for networks using the command line (konsole) use iwlist config
[08:22] <posingaspopular> sorry
[08:22] <posingaspopular> iwlist scan
[08:22] <_2> claydoh:   and the system is totally intelikeized
[08:22] <Jucato> where's claydoh? O.o
[08:22] <_2> ^ that was for Jucato :)
[08:22] <Jucato> :)
[08:23] <_2> iwlist scan says   lo   and  eth0
[08:23] <posingaspopular> eth0 is your wireless interface im assuming?
[08:23] <_2> nope
[08:23] <_2> wired
[08:24] <posingaspopular> hmm so youre not seeing any wireless networks?
[08:24] <_2> i'm not seeing any wireless cards
[08:25] <_2> i'll pastebin lspci  with and without -vv for you.
[08:26] <posingaspopular> kk
[08:26] <posingaspopular> im not gonna lie
[08:26] <posingaspopular> it's probably going to be a driver issue
[08:26] <posingaspopular> which i know nothing about
[08:27] <_2> oh crap.   i mean i'll pastebin it as soon as i remember to plug the stupid cable in....
[08:28] <_2> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1947f6d0
[08:29] <_2> Jucato remind me to disarm the nick completion char.
[08:29] <Jucato> _2: disamr the nick completion char
[08:29] <Jucato> disarm*
[08:30] <posingaspopular> disarm?
[08:30] <posingaspopular> it has a weapon
[08:30] <jussi01> _2: i would have said this is the wireless card there: #
[08:30] <jussi01> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 001c (rev 01)
[08:30] <_2> yeah it shoots claydoh every time i say oh;
[08:31] <posingaspopular> nickserv is on a rampage, netslplit to commence in 5...4....3...2..
[08:31] <posingaspopular> hmm if teh device is unknown
[08:31] <_2> jussi01 yes and line 164 for full output
[08:31] <keymone1> hi guys
[08:32] <keymone1> did anybody tryed to setup double-screen on kubuntu?
[08:32] <tictric> yep
[08:32] <keymone1> it looks completely bugged for me
[08:32] <keymone1> it killed my previous setup so i can't even get back to normal options..
[08:33] <jussi01> _2: Id say ask in the madwifi channel imho - they will have more of an idea
[08:34] <_2> ;/
[08:34] <tictric> keymone1: if your xorg.conf is broken and you can't restore it you can just remove it in 8.04
[08:34] <keymone1> when i try to set screen resolution 1400x900 it actually sets 1280x720 and shows cropped screen - does anybody know how to fix it?
[08:34] <tictric> what driver
[08:34] <keymone1> nvidia
[08:34] <keymone1> i have a laptop
[08:34] <tictric> I knew it :)
[08:34] <keymone1> dell vostro 1500
[08:34] <jussi01> !dualhead | keymone1
[08:35] <keymone1> ok, i'll try to remove xorg.conf
[08:36] <_2> jussi01 seems awful quiet in there...
[08:37] <keymone1> damn..
[08:37] <keymone1> laptop screen is now black :)
[08:37] <CostaRicanQuaker>  help i'm having trouble, opening up html files that i've saved on folders, as soon as i get the mouse pointer on top of the file i get the following error from dolphin :/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[08:38] <keymone1> what is better driver nv or nvidia?
[08:39] <_2> for my card nv   for yours  nvidia
[08:39] <posingaspopular> 0.o
[08:39] <pag> CostaRicanQuaker, " sudo mv /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop . " will fix it (though it will remove the Add as Podcast servicemenu)
[08:39] <posingaspopular> keymone1: reset X using ctrl+alt+del
[08:39] <keymone1> i did
[08:39] <CostaRicanQuaker> pag:thankyou, also, how do i check my system specs?
[08:39] <posingaspopular> or ctrl+alt+f2, login, and then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:39] <posingaspopular> CostaRicanQuaker: lshw
[08:40] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker kinda depends on the info you want
[08:40] <keymone1> posingaspopular: xorg.conf should be created after that by ubuntu?
[08:40] <posingaspopular> you deleted xorg.conf?
[08:40] <keymone1> because i don't have one after restaring x server
[08:40] <keymone1> yes
[08:41] <_2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   # will generate an xorg.conf
[08:41] <keymone1> instead i have xorg.conf.x, x=1..7
[08:43] <neko> hoho
[08:43] <neko> hiho
[08:43] <posingaspopular> hi neko
[08:44] <neko> What i can join to ubuntu irc
[08:44] <keymone1> md5sum: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[08:45] <posingaspopular> neko: you already are...
[08:45] <neko> im on kubuntu
[08:45] <neko> i wanna ubuntu
[08:45] <posingaspopular>  /j #ubuntu
[08:46] <neko> #ubuntu
[08:46] <neko> sryy
[08:46] <_2> jussi01    it looks like the only thing i'll get from #madwifi   is a bot thinking that because i set my ircname to root, that i am irc'ing as root...    "silly bot anyway :)"      anything else i might try ?
[08:47] <jussi01> _2:  I suppose you have been through the docs on the wiki?
[08:47] <jussi01> ie.
[08:47] <jussi01> !madwifi
[08:48] <neko> Someone know good game for linux ?
[08:48] <_2> jussi01  all links point to that page...   i have "tried" to find something pertenant on it.  yes.
[08:48] <_2> neko   kolf   ?
[08:48] <_2> neko    gnuchess  ?
[08:48] <neko> hmmm
[08:48] <neko> Mmorpg
[08:49] <neko> 2d or 3d
[08:49] <_2> neko    wesnoth  ?
[08:49] <neko> i check it ;p
[08:49] <jussi01> _2: so this didnt help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManagerMadWifi
[08:50] <neko> wesnoth see nice
[08:51] <_2> jussi01   well i'll have to dl the kernel source to build a new driver   and i'm on dialup ....  ;/
[08:52] <_2> if that's the only way...      it will take a while.
[08:52] <jussi01> _2: thats about where its at it seems :/
[08:52] <_2> neko    asc   might like you.
[08:52] <neko> Thanks
[08:53] <_2> !games
[08:53] <neko> thanks
[08:54] <_2> jussi01   is that only for "wpa"  ?     or am i missing something ?
[08:56] <jussi01> _2: hehe, try this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[08:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> !pastebin
[08:57] <neko> why i always have problem after instalation ubuntu. I had max 800x600 resolution and i can change it
[08:58] <neko> can't*
[08:59] <neko> i repaired it but it's sucks
[09:01] <neko> Bye all :] and Thanks for helping me
[09:04] <keymone1> Jesus....
[09:05] <keymone1> why does it have to be that hard
[09:05] <keymone1> when i switch to nvidia driver my desktop goes mad
[09:05] <keymone1> it either sets resolution to 640x480
[09:06] <keymone1> either starts producing lots of random color pixels on black screen...
[09:12] <_2> well i have the "dope" on this chip set.   seems the madwifi driver for it exists.  was writen yesterday  O.o
[09:12] <_2> have to compile it if i use it...
[09:12] <posingaspopular> lol lucky you _2
[09:12] <jussi01> _2: that sucks
[09:12] <jussi01> _2: at least there is a driver
 _2: ubuntu provides a madwifi package, but that has no ar5007 support. hence you need to install a different madwifi version manually <<< so i'm told.
 _2: yes, unless ubuntu did add support for ar5007 in the past day (which i doubt). <<<
[09:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> I have 248 mb memory, for this reason, eventhough i installed kubuntu, i downloaded gnome and xfce and use xubuntu the most as it's the fastest followed by kde
[09:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> is there a way of keeping kde's programs
[09:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> and gnome's programs
[09:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> but getting rid of the desktop environments? gnome is too eye candy and that slows everything down
[09:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> and kde is my favorite but it's not as fast as xfce
[09:29] <cpk1> CostaRicanQuaker: yes, but remember that you will still need to load all the libraries required for those programs
[09:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> cpk1: so better just log into xfce everytime from  the login menu'
[09:31] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?*
[09:36] <keymone2> i give up
[09:54] <dharmendra> i need help wit a web cam in ubuntu
[09:54] <dharmendra> any sucessful sotires out therE?
[09:57] <Qwerty__> Hello peeps
[09:57] <Qwerty__> I have some serious problems on my Kubuntu
[09:57] <Qwerty__> Anyone can help?
[09:57] <jussi01> !ask | Qwerty__
[09:58] <Qwerty__> It locks down after suspend, and I don't want it to do that
[09:58] <Schorfi> your "u" key behaves strange? :D *scnr*
[09:59] <Qwerty__> Ahem?
[09:59] <Schorfi> sorry ;)
[09:59] <Qwerty__> !ask How to prevent user session lock down after suspend?
[10:00] <oaidnfa> l0l
[10:00] <Qwerty__> !ask | How to prevent user session lock down after suspend?
[10:01] <Qwerty__> Ok, no idea how that !help thing works but anyway, anyone can help?
[10:01] <oaidnfa> Qwerty__ just ask your questions here in the channel and wait
[10:01] <oaidnfa> Qwerty__ and in the meantime browse yourself google to try to find if someone had a similar problem
[10:01] <Qwerty__> I have done that, no real help
[10:02] <Qwerty__> I have already started a forum topic about it
[10:02] <oaidnfa> Qwerty__ I am not sure I understand what your problem is. Can you formulate it in a more precise and clear way?
[10:02] <Qwerty__> Ok, step by step then:
[10:02] <pag> Qwerty__, it might be some kind of bug in acpi.. not sure though
[10:03] <oaidnfa> Qwerty is the problem that the computer does not turn itself off but halts itself when you want it to close down?
[10:03] <Qwerty__> You put your pc to suspend mode. When you wake it up it asks the admin password, but since pc is in public use, you can't use thta
[10:04] <oaidnfa> so you want to remove the password?
[10:04] <Qwerty__> No it do goes off, it just won't come back to Kubuntu unless you give the password and automatic login is in use
[10:04] <Qwerty__> Yes
[10:04] <oaidnfa> you currently use kubuntu?
[10:04] <Qwerty__> yeah
[10:04] <oaidnfa> ok one moment
[10:06] <Qwerty__> I have tested this and it didn't work for me -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2416854&postcount=7
[10:07] <mazinga> i have problem a condivision file in kubuntu, i look net other pc, but for transfer required pass... in gnome no required pass....
[10:07] <mazinga> sorry for my bad english
[10:08] <snegel> good morning
[10:08] <jussi01> !it | mazinga
[10:09] <pag> Qwerty__, try changing the value to 'false' instead of commenting out
[10:09] <Qwerty__> I have done that, no help. Do every user have their own acpi-support file?
[10:10] <_2> Qwerty__ no. that's system wide.
[10:10] <oaidnfa> Qwerty__ have you tried to dissable lock screen in screen saving settings?
[10:10] <_2> Qwerty__ did you try just setting the screensaver to not  require a password ?
[10:11] <Qwerty__> I have no screensaver at all.
[10:11] <_2> oaidnfa you typomatic attic
[10:11] <_2> set it and see what it changes.
[10:11] <oaidnfa> Qwerty__ You need to go into your screen saving settings and go over the settings there...
[10:11] <oaidnfa> time, lock screent, etc
[10:12] <Qwerty__> Ok, I go test that, brb
[10:12] <oaidnfa> _2 sorry
[10:13] <_2> nothing just that you beet me to it
[10:13] <_2> ;/
[10:13] <oaidnfa> _2 ok hehe we can say that you helped him if it works np
[10:13] <_2> oaidnfa lol   it's not that.
[10:14] <oaidnfa> _2 I am not even on ubuntu/kubuntu whatever...
[10:14] <_2> just hate to post something and see someone else said the same thing just above me...
[10:14] <_2> oaidnfa me either
[10:14] <oaidnfa> _2 are you on windows vista?
[10:14] <_2> no
[10:14] <_2> i don't do windows
[10:14] <oaidnfa> :P
[10:15] <oaidnfa> debian ?
[10:15] <_2> no.  it's ubuntu based.  but you wouldn't really recognize it.
[10:15] <oaidnfa> _2 lol
[10:17] <_2> i mean i compile my own /bin/bash "fully posix compliant"  write my own sysV style startup   don't use partitions   don't have swap  don't use a gui but on occasion...
[10:17] <Qwerty__> No, password asking wasn't on.
[10:19] <oaidnfa> ok _2 ill let you help this guy out. because i need to go take care of other things but it is power settings acpi or screen saver. i think it is possible to fix it. bye..
[10:20] <_2> plasmast   sure run off....
[10:21] <Qwerty__> So what do I need to change from power settings acpi and how do I get there?
[10:23] <_2> Qwerty__ you don't have gdm installed do you ?     ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:24] <_2> Qwerty__ is it pure kde    is what i'm asking ?
[10:26] <Qwerty__> I have kde installed
[10:27] <_2> but do you have gnome ?
[10:27] <Qwerty__> No.
[10:27] <_2> ok.
[10:27] <Qwerty__> Should I have that?
[10:28] <_2> check this     in a konsole type:  ls -l /etc/acpi/resume/*screen*
[10:28] <_2> Qwerty__ what does it say ?
[10:29] <Qwerty__> Wait, need to go find out, its on second floor.
[10:29] <Qwerty__> So brb
[10:29] <_2> short answer to the "<Qwerty__> Should I have that?"  is NO    not unless you want it.   i'm just trying to understand all that your system is doing.
[10:31]  * _2 wonders why we are messing with suspend when he doesn't even have the two boxen nat'd yet ???
[10:35] <Qwerty__> I said that no such file found
[10:35] <_2> !tab
[10:37] <_2> Qwerty__ lets look one more time:  find /etc/acpi<tab> -iname '*screen*' # <tab> means hit the tab key.   and see if that finds a file
[10:38] <_2> Qwerty__ if it does   move it to  your home.   you'll have to use root to move it.
[10:38] <_2> sudo mv /etc/blah/blah/blah ~/
[10:40] <Qwerty__> Ok, I go try that
[10:43] <Qwerty__> I check if I can get myself to irc on that pc, would be a lot faster. ^^
[11:01] <_2> why would anyone want a spam bot in their channel ?
[11:06] <minhaaj> can someone help me back up my home ?
[11:06] <minhaaj> its been two months i am trying, nothing works. simple backup, keep, mondo
[11:06] <minhaaj> :s
[11:07] <_2> tar
[11:07] <minhaaj> doesnt work
[11:07] <_2> why not ?
[11:07] <minhaaj> says you don't have permission, and in properties it says i have permission
[11:08] <_2> where you backing to ?
[11:08] <minhaaj> usb
[11:08] <_2> what fs ?
[11:08] <minhaaj> doesnt matter, becausei  have copied other things to it too
[11:08] <_2> if you use tar it matters
[11:09] <minhaaj> prolly fat32
[11:09] <pag> minhaaj, how large is your /home ?
[11:09] <_2> nope that wont work   file size limitation
[11:09] <minhaaj> 700 mb
[11:10] <pag> minhaaj, hmm.. try tarring to a local directory and then try copying to usb
[11:10] <minhaaj> what local dir ? i can't do it in home
[11:11] <_2> well if that's all....      open a konsole and type in this.      sudo tar -C ~/.. -czf backup001.tgz ~
[11:11] <pag> minhaaj, create yourself one with permissions
[11:11] <_2> minhaaj    ^
[11:12] <minhaaj> what do you mean ?
[11:12] <minhaaj> what does that do _2 ?
[11:12] <_2> it should mak a "backup001.tgz" file in /home     (assuming you live in /home/$USER)
[11:12] <minhaaj> yes i do
[11:12] <minhaaj> hmm ok hang on
[11:13] <minhaaj> on its way
[11:13] <minhaaj> can i copy that tar into usb then ?
[11:14] <_2> yep.   mount the disk    sudo cp ../backup001.tgz /mount/point/
[11:14] <minhaaj> i also want to clear up the meanings of this term mount
[11:14] <minhaaj> what does this mean ?
[11:14] <_2> mount command will be something like     sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:14] <minhaaj> in my case it would be /media/disk-1/backup
[11:15] <_2> you can use      sudo fdisk -l    to find the exact device node
[11:15] <_2> if you don't know it.
[11:15] <minhaaj> device node ?
[11:15] <minhaaj> can you explain
[11:15] <_2> run the command  ^
[11:17] <_2> it will list the partitions it finds      they will look like     "/dev/sdb1   *   1   261   2096451   6   FAT16"     or something.      the "device node" is  /dev/sdb1 in that example.
[11:17] <minhaaj> yea b is for storage devices
[11:17] <minhaaj> and a for hard drives
[11:17] <_2> no
[11:18] <minhaaj> read that in book
[11:18] <_2> a is first recognized scsi device  b is second c is third....
[11:18] <_2> they could all be hdd's they could be all external  they could be any combonation thereof
[11:18] <minhaaj> yea but second device is called a2
[11:18] <minhaaj> not b
[11:18] <_2> no
[11:19] <_2> second partition on device is called 2
[11:19] <minhaaj> whats the difference ?
[11:19] <_2> you need a new book
[11:19] <minhaaj> thats what i said.
[11:19] <minhaaj> a b c partitions will be referred to as sda1 sda2 sda 3
[11:20] <_2> minhaaj those are partitions not disks. tho
[11:20] <minhaaj> oh ok, sorry for the wrong terminology then
[11:20] <_2> the disk is a   the partitions are all on a
[11:20] <_2> the second disk "aka device" is b
[11:21] <minhaaj> btw meanwhile home tars, can you tell me why my usb partition is showing on 435 mb free space whereas when i went in selected all and went to properties, it showed 3.5 GB free space ?
[11:21] <minhaaj> ok good
[11:21] <minhaaj> then my usb is sdb1
[11:21] <minhaaj> :)
[11:22] <_2> your usb device is sdb in this case and the first partition on that device is sdb1   :)))       get it right!
[11:24] <_2> minhaaj as per your Q.   linux file systems reserver a default percentage of space that only root can access   'default is 5%'   that being an vfat fs it "may" reserve a persentage on it when it mounts...  i'm not sure what they do with defaults on a vfat or ntfs
[11:26] <_2> there is no permissions bit on vfat or ntfs  so a psyudo permission is set fs-wide for them when mounted in linux   they may set some reserve there too   i have never tried to find out about that.
[11:26] <minhaaj> ahh
[11:27] <minhaaj> oh got it. so partitions are numeric and devices are alpha
[11:27] <_2> yep
[11:27] <minhaaj> device one a partition one 1
[11:27] <_2> yep
[11:27] <_2> you got it
[11:27] <minhaaj> ok problems already
[11:28] <minhaaj> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[11:28] <minhaaj> tar: /home/minhaaj/.transmission/gtk/socket: socket ignored
[11:28] <minhaaj> tar: /home/minhaaj/.local/share/Trash/files/.gdesklets/sockets/%3A0.0: socket ignored
[11:28] <minhaaj> tar: /home/minhaaj/.gvfs: Cannot stat: Permission denied
[11:28] <minhaaj> tar: /home/minhaaj/.mozilla-thunderbird/u29ifao3.default/Mail/pop.gmail.com/Inbox: file changed as we read it
[11:28] <minhaaj> gdesklets is useless i deleted it, so its prolly ok. whats that gvfs permission prob ?
[11:28] <minhaaj> i prolly don't need transmission too
[11:28] <_2> only problem i see is that you were down loading mail and backing up at the same time      errr and don't know about pastebin.
[11:29] <minhaaj> lol i do
[11:29] <minhaaj> sorry i was a bit impatient
[11:29] <minhaaj> gotta do it again or ?
[11:30] <_2> well unless you wanted to backup your "inbox" along with that.  all should be fine.
[11:30] <minhaaj> shut down everything
[11:30] <minhaaj> you mean my emails ?
[11:30] <_2> yes your new email
[11:30] <minhaaj> nah don't care
[11:30] <_2> then it should be fine
[11:30] <minhaaj> but i am using xchat at the moment
[11:30] <minhaaj> how about this ?
[11:30] <_2> it should be fine
[11:30] <gurkentraeger> hello!
[11:30] <minhaaj> let me quit pidgin and skype too
[11:31] <minhaaj> why should it be ? whats the logic ? if its bad for thunderbird why is it good for xchat ?
[11:31] <_2> minhaaj you can use something like file-roller   or what's that other gui thingy ???   and look in the tar ball to see what you put in there.
[11:31] <_2> ark  that the other
[11:32] <minhaaj> what do you mean ?
[11:32] <_2> just open it.    look at the content listing
[11:32] <minhaaj> my question was that why is it bad for thunderbird to back up while running and same is not true for xchat
[11:32] <minhaaj> ?
[11:33] <_2> minhaaj only thing that *chat might be writing to is a log file   in such case you may not want to save the irc-log   anyway
[11:34] <gurkentraeger> please tell me where do i find the file where the screen resolution for x-sessions is saved. Xorg.conf doesnt contain no more information about resolution or about syncing frequencies
[11:34] <minhaaj> heyyyyyyyy its backing up back0001.tar.gz too
[11:34] <_2> even konqueror  can be generating new data while in use  "think thumbnails"  but a precise backup of that is futile anyway
[11:34] <minhaaj> isn't it an endless loop? backing up the back up ?
[11:35] <_2> minhaaj did you use the exact command i gave ?
[11:35] <minhaaj> yes
[11:35] <minhaaj> i told you, you never place back up in home
[11:35] <minhaaj> ok its done
[11:35] <minhaaj> how do i check the integrity of the back up ?
[11:37] <minhaaj> hello ?
[11:38] <gurkentraeger> where is the configuration file for the screen resolution ?????????? nothing there in xorg.conf
[11:38] <_2> minhaaj i didn't place backup in home.
[11:39] <_2> sudo tar -C ~/.. -czf backup001.tgz ~   <<< that is the "exact" command i gave you.   it put's it in the parent dir of your home.
[11:39] <minhaaj> i copy pasted it
[11:39] <minhaaj> yea its in minhaaj
[11:39] <minhaaj> /home/minhaaj
[11:39] <minhaaj> wasn't it where it was supposed to be ?
[11:39] <_2> then you didn't do something right.
[11:40] <_2> no.  the -C ~/..     will change dir to parrent of your home.
[11:40] <minhaaj> well i checked the back up size its 4.8 gb
[11:40] <minhaaj> not bad
[11:41] <minhaaj> now how do i check if its exactly like my home and i am not missing files and it would run ok if i restore it ?
[11:41] <_2> ummm too big for vfat
[11:41] <minhaaj> vfat ?
[11:41] <minhaaj> i can delete songs from it, np
[11:41] <_2> your storage media
[11:41] <minhaaj> its 8 gb
[11:41] <minhaaj> :)
[11:41] <_2> but it's vfat you said
[11:41] <minhaaj> i am not sure.
[11:41] <minhaaj> how do you check that ?
[11:42] <_2> you mounted it ?
[11:42] <minhaaj> command ?
[11:42] <minhaaj> sudo mount /media/disk-1
[11:42] <minhaaj> ?
[11:42] <_2> mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt   # or /media/disk-1 if you prefer
[11:43] <_2> anyway   issue the mount command without arguments
[11:43] <minhaaj> would that format my data ?
[11:43] <_2> it will list what's mounted
[11:43] <minhaaj> ok
[11:43] <_2> format ?   no.
[11:43] <minhaaj> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/disk-2
[11:44] <_2> minhaaj so issue    mount     and see what fs it is
[11:45] <minhaaj> how do i do that ?
[11:45] <minhaaj> just tell me commands :)
[11:45] <_2> mount
[11:45] <minhaaj> didnt i just do it?
[11:45] <_2> no
[11:45] <minhaaj> i did
[11:45] <minhaaj> sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[11:45] <_2> no
[11:45] <_2> that is not the same as this
[11:45] <_2> mount
[11:45] <_2> sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[11:46] <_2> see the differance
[11:46] <_2> one is one word the other is three
[11:46] <minhaaj> k
[11:46] <minhaaj> lemme pastebin
[11:47] <_2> mount | grep dev/sdb1   # that would give the pertenant information
[11:48] <_2> grep the filter of champions
[11:48] <minhaaj> yea right. command not found
[11:48] <_2> copy and paste it
[11:48] <minhaaj> i did
[11:49] <_2> obviously not all of it.   or you got my nick with it.
[11:49] <minhaaj> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/28956/
[11:49] <minhaaj> forget it
[11:50] <_2> yep vfat.
[11:50] <_2> and there is no way in hell that "grep" or "mount" is NOT on your system... so the "command not found is pebcak"
[11:51] <minhaaj> hehe
[11:51] <minhaaj> so what do we do now :)
[11:53] <_2> let me look into tar and see if there is a known issue with -C and ..   togather.  in the mean time.    try this.    delete the backup you made.  and drop this command in the konsole.  "cd ~/.. ;sudo tar -czf backup001.tgz $HOME "
[11:53] <_2> that should get the size down to something you can store on a vfat system
[11:54] <_2> and it will be in /home/  not in your home
[11:54] <minhaaj> err
[11:54] <minhaaj> delete the tar ?
[11:55] <_2> yeah
[11:55] <_2> the backup*.tgz in your home
[11:55] <minhaaj> ok its on it
[11:56] <andy_> Hello everyone
[11:56] <andy_> newbie to linux here
[11:56] <minhaaj> good now its backing up in /
[11:56] <minhaaj> welcome andy_
[11:56] <_2> minhaaj ?
[11:56] <_2> no.  in /home
[11:57] <minhaaj> no its its in /
[11:57] <minhaaj> where ever directory is, /var /etc /usr /home
[11:58] <_2> ok i'm finished.    if you can't get "cd ~/.."  to put you in /home  and you do live in /home/something/   i'm through.    sorry man.  i can't go any farther down that road.
[11:59] <_2> only way that should have dumped you in / is if you were root when you did it.
[11:59] <_2> makes no sense.  and i'm gone.
[12:01] <minhaaj> :(
[12:08] <gurkentraeger> ARRGH! NOOO!
[12:09] <gurkentraeger> what happened to the X-server?
[12:09] <gurkentraeger> hello, ...? where are my configurations for screen resolution and for hsync and vsync??
[12:10] <gurkentraeger> help!
[12:10] <gurkentraeger> using ati driver.. is that the problem?
[12:13] <Schorfi>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:13] <gurkentraeger> no... no resolution no frequencies in there
[12:14] <gurkentraeger> there has to be another config file...
[12:30] <martijn81> gurkentraeger: is actually is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <martijn81> backup it and try this
[12:31] <martijn81> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:32] <mooper> hi yall, Firefox 3 is very badly integrated into kde
[12:33] <mooper> is there a package to fix this?
[12:33] <mooper> file types are not associated etc
[12:33] <martijn81> mooper: use konqueror
[12:33] <martijn81> most sites work with it
[12:34] <mooper> martijn81: deVries?
[12:35] <mooper> martijn81: firefox2 intergration was good in 7.10
[12:36] <martijn81> nope van Vliet
[12:37] <martijn81> sorry i wouldn't know, i gave up firefox when i started using kde
[12:39] <neko_> Hiho all
[12:42] <HUNTER_byt2> I want that my script be executed after the KDE startup automatically. How to do this?
[12:43] <pag> HUNTER_byt2, link or move it to ~/.kde/Autostart/
[12:59] <Berkut> Ïîäñêàæèòå äèñòðèáóòèâ Kubuntu 8.04 íà CD âêëþ÷àåò â ñåáÿ òîëüêî àíãëèéñêèé ÿçûê?
[13:00] <Pici> !ru | Berkut
[13:23] <keldron> http://www.barzellettelibere.splinder.com/
[13:26] <bibek> where did ksynaptics go?
[13:26] <bibek> apt-cache show ksynaptics
[13:26] <bibek> shows empty
[13:31] <keldron> http://www.barzellettelibere.splinder.com/
[13:46] <testi> I choose another wallpaper and click on apply, but it does not change
[13:50] <KomiaPoika> hi
[13:50] <KomiaPoika> i have a kubunut vmware machine with encrypted disk, yesterday it worked, but now, when i boot and click the window to enter the passphrase, the tube stops to move and the system freezes when im typing the phrase. why?
[13:51] <KomiaPoika> kubuntu*
[14:09] <lesergi> good afternoon
[14:13] <Yiye> i'm trying to reinstall my scanner
[14:13] <Yiye> any1 help?
[14:51] <legycsapo> HI ALL !
[14:51] <legycsapo> how can i change my subtitle size in Kaffeine?
[14:55] <legycsapo> how can i change my subtitle size in Kaffeine?
[14:55] <legycsapo> somebody plz !
[14:56] <trollig> in xine parameters I believe
[14:57] <legycsapo> and wth is that? :D
[14:59] <sigma_12> do you think users would appreciate me making a video tutorial of kde4 for the beginners? with audio narration
[14:59] <legycsapo> grat idea ! :)
[15:00] <sigma_12> yeah just thought thats one thing thats missing. if i had it when i started it would have helped alot
[15:02] <sigma_12> i should probably wait for intrepid though
[15:08] <falckon> hi, i'm trying to set up kubuntu on my usb hard drive so that I can take my OS and run it anywhere I go, it works great using default video card drivers but I want to be able to use the accelerated NVidia or ATI drivers on computers that have those cards
[15:08] <falckon> so i thought I could just install them and make a startup script reconfigure X using lspci to detect which card (if any) was in the computer
[15:09] <aomegax4> hi
[15:09] <aomegax4> how can I utilize ark to extract .rar?
[15:09] <falckon> but after the nvidia binary driver is installed opengl support stops working in the i915
[15:09] <aomegax4> what must I install?
[15:10] <falckon> aomegax4, i know you can use unrar
[15:10] <aomegax4> no I referr to graphical mode
[15:10] <falckon> 'apt-get install unrar' and then 'unrar x archivename.rar'
[15:10] <falckon> oh ok
[15:10] <aomegax4> ah ok
[15:11] <falckon> ark seems like it should support rar no problem
[15:12] <aomegax4> boh in kde4 doesn't go...
[15:13] <aomegax4> I have a .rar so I click with right mouse button but I haven't extract here but only open with ark -.-
[15:15] <aomegax4> perhaps I haven't any packaage...bah! I don't know it
[15:17] <slobad23> i have changed to kde after installing it from ubuntu... as a result am i missing anything i should download asap?
[15:18] <falckon> slobad23, how did you switch to kde? the best way to switch to kubuntu is to install kubuntu-desktop and this will install the standard kubuntu desktop installation
[15:18] <slobad23> that is exactly what i did
[15:18] <falckon> ok, then you should be fine
[15:18] <slobad23> thanks :-)
[15:18] <genii> slobad23: You may want to add codecs etc
[15:18] <genii> !codecs
[15:31] <aomegax4> how can i solve ark problem
[15:31] <aomegax4> ?
[15:31] <genii> If you describe better the problem....
[15:33] <genii> aomegax4: A more detailed report of the exact problem with ark that you are having may be useful in assisting
[15:35] <aomegax4> i don't succed to extract file with ark
[15:36] <aomegax4> what must I do?
[15:39] <falckon> if you right click on the rar file, and go to actions -> "extract here"
[15:39] <falckon> this works for me
[15:40] <falckon> otherwise you could open the rar file in ark probably by clicking on it, and then select the actions menu and extract, or you can drag the files from ark to where you want to put them and say to copy them there
[15:45] <genii> Depending also on file extension you may need to install the compressor/decompressor for it. For example .rar or .zip extensions need this.
[15:45] <aomegax4> yes but these don't succed with me...
[15:45] <aomegax4> I have installed all...
[15:46] <aomegax4> rar, unrar zip tar gz
[15:47] <aomegax4> I trust it is a kde4 problem
[15:47] <aomegax4> because I have read in internet other people with the same problem...
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> unrar-nonfree
[15:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't know if the free implementation is up to the most current release, so that could explain it
[15:51] <aomegax4> i have installed unrar free
[15:51] <aomegax4> and unrar...
[15:56] <aomegax4> what is command to extract rar ?
[15:57] <pag> aomegax4, unrar x file.rar
[16:02] <Yiye> ĸ
[16:08] <oscar> hi  guys I have a strange problem with home permissions
[16:08] <oscar> could anybody help me?
[16:16] <genii> oscar: sudo chmod -R $(whoami):$(whoami) `ls -a ~/`
[16:16] <genii> Bah he didn't hang around
[16:20] <kunim> hello, i have a problem - since my last reboot my ntfs drive is only mounted with "700" (mounted via ntfs-3g) owned by my user (although i mount it as root)  - i want it to be 777 again, but it seems umask=0 has no effect..  any tips what i can do?
[16:26] <genii> kunim: What does your fstab entry look like?
[16:27] <kaldor> Has anyone tried KDE 4.1 RC1 yet? If so, is it worth getting?
[16:27] <kunim> genii: it's manually mounted
[16:28] <kunim> type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) <- those are the flags
[16:28] <genii> kunim: Then whats the line you are using to mount it
[16:33] <macitela> hello
[16:33] <macitela> goog morning
[16:33] <genii> !hi
[16:34] <kunim> genii: no options at all, just mount -t ntfs-3g dev mntpnt
[16:36] <genii> kunim: Maybe try: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o users,umask=0 dev mntpnt
[16:39] <nuccio> ciao
[16:40] <genii> !it | nuccio
[16:40] <Pici> !it
[16:40] <genii> Pici: Hehe
[16:49] <BooVeMan_work> hi - a question - how do I get rid of the "system policy prevents mounting internal media" message wen plugin a flash memory - this jasyt started recently..
[16:51] <BooVeMan_work> if i understand this correctly this is related to hal policies - but i can't find the related config -file
[16:51] <genii> bug 2235548
[16:52] <genii> bah
[16:52] <genii> bug 223548
[16:52] <BooVeMan_work> right
[16:52] <BooVeMan_work> thts not the one - y don't get a frozen system - just wont to get rid of the message
[16:55] <genii> BooVeMan_work: It's also mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784179 but no satisfactory solution is given
[16:55] <BooVeMan_work> what seems strange is that I only affect some fue?
[16:55] <i3ooi3oo> how do i mount a  removeable dvdrom?
[16:57] <BooVeMan_work> i3oo3oo: should mount itself automatically
[17:03] <BooVeMan_work> no one?
[17:10] <i3ooi3oo> I thought so but It only mounts a DVD in the drive was install before boot
[17:10] <i3ooi3oo> if the drive is installed while the system is up i can't find it
[17:11] <BooVeMan_work> so thats an external case whci you plug in via ubs - right?
[17:34] <Dragonath> hey, how do I stop kubuntu from using the swap partition on my old HD as swap now?
[17:34] <Dragonath> argh stupid me, the disable button was down there
[17:34] <Dragonath> sorry
[17:42] <amikrop> How can I change my Desktop Environment from GNOME to KDE?
[17:42] <Algyz> amikrop:  install kubuntu-desktop
[17:43] <amikrop> Algyz: And how can I set it as a default DE?
[17:43] <amikrop> * the default
[17:43] <Algyz> amikrop: if you want kde4, then kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[17:43] <BooVeMan_work> en el logeo escojes
[17:43] <BooVeMan_work> sorry
[17:43] <Algyz> you'll see, you'll have to select kdm either gdm
[17:43] <BooVeMan_work> choose it in the login screen
[17:44] <amikrop> I don't want to select each time. I want to permanently start X with KDE.
[17:44] <Algyz> you can
[17:44] <amikrop> How?
[17:45] <Algyz> amikrop:  with gdm just look into sessions
[17:45] <amikrop> Algyz: OK, thanks a lot :-)
[17:45] <Algyz> amikrop:  gdm will offer for you to select kde session as default, agree, that's it
[17:45] <amikrop> k, thx
[17:45] <Algyz> you're welcome ;)
[17:46] <amikrop> Algyz: And if I want to remove GNOME? How could I do that?
[17:47] <Algyz> sudo aptitude remove gnome-base
[17:47] <Algyz> I'm not sure, but hope this will help
[17:48] <BooVeMan_work> if not: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[17:48] <amikrop> ok guys. thanks.
[17:48] <Algyz> try to remove gnome packages one after another, using adept
[17:49] <BooVeMan_work> i think that would be apt-get remove gnome-desktop...
[17:49] <Algyz> BooVeMan_work:  I'm afraid this wil not work
[17:50] <BooVeMan_work> as it is a meta-package?
[17:50] <alarico> hi guys
[17:50] <Algyz> probably
[17:50] <BooVeMan_work> well it wokred for me removine kde4
[17:52] <BooVeMan_work> obviously you will need to be running kde to do that
[17:57] <luis> hi
[17:57] <luis> hi everybody
[17:57] <luis> somebody
[17:57] <luis> please
[17:57] <alarico_> hi guys
[17:57] <BooVeMan_work> ?
[17:59] <luis> hi
[18:00] <Jucato> I guess he was just waiting for someone to say hi to him :)
[18:01] <genii> PErhaps :)
[18:01] <BooVeMan_work> if he'd had a question he would have asked
[18:01]  * genii occasionally does !hi | person              then watches them try to talk the bot up
[18:10]  * genii wonders if when !countrycode is used if the person goes to the new channel and then speaks of the legendary helper "ubottu"
[18:10] <trappist> yeah he speaks like a hundred languages!
[18:11] <genii> hehe yeah
[18:12] <bobo> hello ppl hows all of you guys day going
[18:13] <TheTsar> It is fine
[18:13] <genii> bobo: So long as the coffee keeps flowing, great :)
[18:13] <TheTsar> I don't like cofee, but girls
[18:13] <bobo> good deal i dont do coffee but if thats your thing ok
[18:13] <bobo> i have a great job you guys know that
[18:14] <TheTsar> What is youre job bobo
[18:14] <bobo> at the strip club im a dj
[18:15] <bobo> im at work now
[18:15] <TheTsar> Nice bobo
[18:15] <bobo> and i have internet here now to its awesome
[18:18] <TheTsar> bobo: Do you have live cam....he he he
[18:19] <bobo> no they wont let me use it i brought it but they didnt like that idea to much
[18:19] <TheTsar> bobo: Where is this club?
[18:19] <bobo> warner robins, ga.
[18:20] <TheTsar> ga?
[18:20] <bobo> georgia
[18:20] <TheTsar> It is far away from me
[18:20] <bobo> where you at
[18:22] <TheTsar> In Norway
[18:22] <bobo> oh ok i see know
[18:22] <yakuzi> gergia is USA :p
[18:23] <yakuzi> *georgia
[18:23] <TheTsar> I know
[18:23] <TheTsar> I have been there
[18:23] <bobo> yup im a usa idiot
[18:23] <BooVeMan_work> I', al least in the same time zone (i hink) - but still far off - Ecuador
[18:23] <TheTsar> Lived in the US for 5 years
[18:23] <bobo> id rather be in amsterdam
[18:24] <BooVeMan_work> sip weed is legal
[18:24] <bobo> i could care less about weed the djs there make damn good money
[18:25] <BooVeMan_work> and damn good music - like in Berlin
[18:25] <BooVeMan_work> but I recon this should be moved to #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:38] <minimax> has anyone successfully run Vista Home Premium in VirtualBox?
[18:39] <falckon> does anyone have a good idea for auto-detecting ati/nvidia graphics cards and switching on and off at boot (probably with a script which detects it using lspci) so that X starts with full opengl support?
[18:40] <aorkwa> minimax: I have Vista HP running in VirtualBox, but it's a violation of Vista's EULA IIRC.
[18:41] <genii> aorkwa: So long as you don't have it installed on more than one machine, shouldn't violate
[18:41] <extor> HP being hewlett packards OEM licensed vista?
[18:42] <genii> HP= Home Premium
[18:42] <minimax> extor: no, the edition Home Premium, though I am personally using an Hewlett Packard
[18:42] <aorkwa> genii: I think Microsoft's EULA explicitly forbids running Home Premium in a virtual machine, even if you don't have it installed anywhere else.
[18:42] <extor> I was talking to aorkwa, sorry for the confusion minimax
[18:43] <minimax> aorkwa: yeah.. though there's no way of telling you are, and not much they can do
[18:44] <minimax> except make code that breaks in a virtual machine, which is what I'm afraid of
[18:44] <extor> If I wanted to make the kubuntu desktop similar to the gnome-ubuntu desktop in terms of having two taskbars, bottom and top, which behave exactly as in gnome with the top being a launchpad and the bottom being a taskbar...is that easy to do? Anyone done it and are there any web pages that show how to do it?
[18:45] <minimax> aorkwa: btw, have you tested the seamless mode?
[18:46] <minimax> extor: running a second kicker?
[18:46] <extor> what is a kicker? and how do I run one?
[18:47] <genii> kicker is the kde taskbar name
[18:47] <minimax> extor: I'm not using kde3 anymore, though
[18:48] <extor> where can I adjust the kicker settings from, specifically the one which launches two kickers?
[18:48] <aorkwa> minimax: Yes I have. It works OK, although it probably doesn't work with Aero. I can't check that because I don't have enough RAM to use Aero.
[18:48] <i3ooi3oo> BooVeMan_work: no it' a removalbe dvd drive in a laptop that exchanges with a removable HDD
[18:48] <minimax> aorkwa: heh, how much ram do you have alloced?
[18:49] <minimax> aorkwa: I'm trying with the recommended 512MB, because I've only got 4GB
[18:49] <aorkwa> minimax: I have the recommended 512MB allocated.
[18:50] <minimax> btw, I've only got 32-bit edition, but can Vbox run 64-bit guests?
[18:52] <Nyle> extor, gu
[18:52] <Nyle> extor, kicker is the panel you see
[18:52] <aorkwa> minimax: Not at the moment, I don't think, but if I remember correctly they're working on it.
[18:52] <Nyle> you can right click the panel in kde, and go to Add New Panel
[18:53] <Nyle> then you can coinfugre this panel and put it on top and add kicker applets to them
[18:53] <Nyle> you can adjust your panels anywhich way you want
[18:53] <Nyle> extor, help:/kicker/index.html
[18:53] <Nyle> start reading
[18:54] <extor> Nyle, that add new panel option was so "in my face" that I never realized it was there
[18:54] <Nyle> it happens
[18:54] <Nyle> :)
[18:56] <Dein> can anyone please analyze this and tell me how to fix? http://paste.ubuntu.com/29044/
[18:57] <Nyle>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop', which is also in package kio-umountwrapper
[18:57] <Nyle> i remember this from yesterday
[18:57] <Nyle> someone else had a problem with this package as well while they were trying to remove kio stuff
[18:57] <Dein> is it fixable?
[18:58] <Nyle> so this is the package that overwrites that file, and when you try to remove kio-umountrwapper it gives error
[18:58] <Nyle> i think
[18:58] <Nyle> but he was using dolphin i dunno
[18:58] <Nyle> yeh it should be
[18:59] <Dein> any ideas?
[18:59] <zabbadapp> aorkwa: eula's are not legally binding everywhere afaik ... so big company can't expect you to obey "you must not use our product as drink coasters or whatever" in those places
[18:59] <Nyle> yeh
[18:59] <Nyle> i dunno exctly
[18:59] <Nyle> but try this
[18:59] <testi> I have a video file from my digicam in digikam, but the player of digikam hangs when i click on it. How is that possible?
[18:59] <Nyle> sudo mv /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop.backup
[18:59] <Nyle> and then apt-get -f install
[18:59] <TimS> Is it possible to list all packages by their size?
[18:59] <genii> bug 192889
[19:00] <Nyle> genii, i thought as much but I didn't know which bug number, thanks
[19:00] <genii> np
[19:00] <BooVeMan_work> i3ooi3oo: you see something in your /var /log/messages when inserting the dvd in the bay - I recon thats a problem with hdd and dvd beeing fixed devices and as such aren't set up for automount
[19:01] <Dein> Nyle: that is all i do or is there anything else?
[19:01] <Nyle> try to understand why the error happens
[19:01] <Nyle> and think what is being done in order to resolve it
[19:01] <Nyle> take a look at the link genii got from bot
[19:01] <Dein> doesn't work
[19:02] <Nyle> i would think if you rename the file being overwritten it should continue and dpkg-deb shouldn't error out
[19:02] <genii> Dein:  What says command:     ls /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror*
[19:02] <aorkwa> zabbadap: I hardly ever use Vista anymore anyway (it broke; I switched to Kubuntu) so it doesn't really matter that much. I just keep it there because I paid for it.
[19:02] <Dein> well, it's two lines so i'll paste here /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[19:02] <Dein> /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror-nsplugins_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[19:04] <extor> Would kubuntu run halfway decent on a PII-233 lappy with about 64MB of RAM? Or am I better off installing another distro?
[19:04] <genii> Dein: Try then: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[19:04] <Dein> genii: yes, tried that right now
[19:05] <Dein> genii: it's still working
[19:06] <Dein> genii: it seems that this helped... although i must confess i don't really know what i did :S
[19:06] <genii> Dein: The fix that was on the bug page, just with correct deb name. Forces it to overwite dirs if neccesary
[19:06] <falckon> extor: I'd recommend trying xubuntu, its still ubuntu so you'll be familiar with it but its much lighter
[19:07] <extor> ahh ok xubuntu it is then
[19:07] <extor> I presume it just takes a lot of the fluff out of the desktop
[19:07] <TheTsar> What is better xubuntu or kubuntu?
[19:07] <falckon> yep basically, i'm running it on a 233 laptop myself
[19:07] <genii> TheTsar: Remember you're asing this in #kubuntu :)
[19:08] <extor> falckon, how much ram?
[19:08] <TheTsar> genii: Will the people there not be a little one sided?
[19:09] <falckon> i think its 192, but xubuntu is still your best bet cause kubuntu will be slow on that system, i had to use the alternative installer too because it couldn't run the live environment
[19:09] <genii> TheTsar: "what is better" is basically a subjective question to begin with. And since we are kubuntu based in this channel the answer from most here will almost always side that way. Best just to try both and decide for yourself what "what is better" for your tastes
[19:10] <TheTsar> You have a point genii
[19:13] <Dein> genii: thank you for your assistance :)
[19:13] <BooVeMan_work> extop - check out DSL (Danm, Small Linux) or puppylinux
[19:13] <genii> Dein: Glad to help
[19:14] <Dein> genii: are there any more things i should watch out for because i installed kde on my ubuntu, to try it out? will there be more issues like this?
[19:15] <kyle0016> just went from a hp deskjet 5700 to a laserjet 1320n on kubuntu 8.04
[19:15] <kyle0016> I open up filemaker pro 5 and now it willnot print
[19:15] <genii> Dein: Probably not. If so return here for assistance :)
[19:15] <kyle0016> had no issues with the deskjet
[19:15] <Dein> genii: sure ^^
[19:15] <kyle0016> any solutions??
[19:16] <genii> kyle0016: I'm pretty sure the 1100 and 1300 series are whats called host-based sort of like a winmodem printer.
[19:16] <BooVeMan_work> genii - no it is not as ists the n which comes with an networkl interface
[19:17] <BooVeMan_work> the question is how is it connected
[19:17] <kyle0016> usb
[19:17] <kyle0016> it works great with all my linux apps
[19:17] <BooVeMan_work> right than applies what genii just said
[19:18] <kyle0016> is their a workaround
[19:18] <BooVeMan_work> you are runing filemaker pro natively or using wine
[19:18] <kyle0016> or do i have to run it networked
[19:18] <kyle0016> i am using wine
[19:18] <BooVeMan_work> thats than a wine issue
[19:19] <kyle0016> its odd because all my wine apps recognize it, the print window comes up and then i click print and nothing happens
[19:20] <BooVeMan_work> go over to #winehq - i guess theres more help
[19:20] <Nyad> Hi. I forgot my pwd for the kdewallet, I have my root pwd though, how do I get my kdewallet pwd?
[19:20] <extor> Alternate install CD  <--- Why is this recommended for low ram systems? What reason?
[19:21] <falckon> extor: it doesn't run a live-cd version of the operating system for the install
[19:21] <BooVeMan_work> extor: uses less ram
[19:21] <BooVeMan_work> ;-)
[19:21] <extor> uses less ram for the installation? Or even after the install? I don't get it.
[19:22] <BooVeMan_work> for the intsllation
[19:22] <BooVeMan_work> extor: the ammount of ram zou use depends on other factors
[19:22] <extor> right but you can just choose a text install..what was the point?
[19:23] <BooVeMan_work> as ar as i know there is no text-intaller on the live disk anymore
[19:23] <l1f7s0s9> wutsup
[19:23] <l1f7s0s9> qepedo
[19:24] <l1f7s0s9> wutsup
[19:24] <l1f7s0s9> somebody in there?
[19:25] <genii> kyle0016: Might want to ask them in #winehq    I suspect it needs proper setup in wine.conf file
[19:25] <genii> |1
[19:25] <genii> bah
[19:26] <l1f7s0s9> jaja
[19:26] <l1f7s0s9> qepedo
[19:26] <l1f7s0s9> geni
[19:27] <genii> Hmm. You might want to use a name which begins with a letter on everyone's keyboards there so we can direct messages to you
[19:27] <Pici> You dont have an L on your keyboard?
[19:27] <genii> Pici: It's not a lowercase l or a pipe or an uppercae I
[19:28] <genii> *i
[19:28] <Pici> genii: irssi seems to think its a lowercase l, and nicknames can't be any extended ascii characters.
[19:29] <falckon> genii: it's tab-completing as a lowercase l for me
[19:29] <genii> Pici: Ah have it now. !tab wasn't working though for some reason
[19:39] <slobad23> i am trying to look for where i change the screen resoluton but cant seem to find it anywhere - am i being thick or is it just really well hidden?
[19:40] <TheTsar> I found it right away
[19:40] <BooVeMan_work> system settings -> display
[19:41] <TheTsar> administration mode
[19:44] <senethril_> _-_-_-_
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[19:45] <senethril_> _-_-_-_
[19:45] <senethril_> _-_
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[19:45] <senethril_> _-_-_-_-_
[19:45] <senethril_> _-_-_-_-_
[19:45] <jussi01> senethril: enough now
[19:45] <senethril_> sorry
[19:45] <senethril_> yeah
[19:45] <senethril_> :D
[19:45] <trummer> trotzdem danke
[19:46] <senethril_> toctoctoc
[19:46] <chubacca> my control panel in windows is gone
[19:46] <senethril_> II
[19:46] <senethril_> :D
[19:47] <chubacca> and i dont have permission to use ctl alt delete anymore :(
[19:47] <senethril_> knock knock
[19:47] <senethril_> oops
[19:47] <chubacca> and this virus blocker wants me to pay
[19:48] <BooVeMan_work> chubacca: this is a kubuntu/linux channel don't expect mor e help than "intsall kubuntu for a start"
[19:48] <jussi01> chubacca:this is for kubuntu support - for windows, please try ##windows
[19:49] <chubacca> i use kubuntu
[19:49] <chubacca> i dual boot
[19:50] <ilkin> people please help...sssssssssooooooooooooossssssssss,,,,Kubuntu still cant open phone card reader
[19:50] <ilkin> MMC card plugged in usb device
[19:51] <chubacca> does anyone understand how to use the audio service for bluez
[19:51] <BooVeMan_work> chubacca: but that virus blocker sure isn't in ubuntu - right?
[19:52] <chubacca> yeah but i figuerd i could delete a virus on the other partition while im on here
[19:53] <chubacca> i got avg for linux today
[19:53] <chubacca> i was flabbergasted to say the least
[19:54] <falckon> chubacca: i've used bluetooth audio using a2dpd, there's a few guides floating around the net
[19:54] <BooVeMan_work> ctrl-alt-f1 : apt-get remove avg
[19:54] <chubacca> i been using btsco
[19:55] <chubacca> is a2dpd better
[19:55] <falckon> chubacca: yes, its the high quality version of the bluetooth audio system
[19:56] <chubacca> normally when im using skype there is a bit of delay when someone calls i get a beep and say hello a couple times to make sure the other person dont hang up
[19:57] <chubacca> is a2dpd for stereo bluetooth devices
[19:58] <falckon> well its for high fidelity devices, stereo or not, i'm using it for my stereo bluetooth headphones to play music
[19:59] <falckon> seems there's a nice easy script for installing it
[19:59] <falckon> http://fosswire.com/2008/01/11/a2dp-stereo-linux/
[20:04] <markus_> hi
[20:04] <genii> !hi | markus_
[20:05] <falckon> ubottu's a pretty enthusiastic guy, obedient too
[20:13] <genii> !coffee
[20:13]  * genii decides to have one
[20:14] <sea_> Why did you teach that to ubottu?
[20:14] <genii> sea_: So he can stay awake.
[20:15] <falckon> !ubottu
[20:15] <falckon> uh oh, he's self-aware
[20:15] <genii> hehe Almost, it seems sometimes
[20:24] <Sydero> Is there a way to set KDE/Ubuntu that when I close my laptop screen, it enters standby mode?
[20:30] <genii> Sydero: Click on battery meter. Choose at bottom: When Laptop Lid Closed                what option you want for that action
[20:35] <maurice2peter> hapchi
[20:45] <scripted> hi
[20:45] <scripted> can i ask a question?
[20:47] <BooVeMan_work> scripted: you already did so
[20:47] <scripted> i guess so
[20:48] <genii> !ask
[20:48] <scripted> i have some lines to mount several partitions in ntfs. how do i add them to fstab
[20:48] <scripted> i guess i was just checkin if anyone was around.
[20:49] <scripted> can i manually just add the changes opening the fstab file in kate?
[20:49] <scripted> and do i have to be carefull about the ordering of the command
[20:50] <scripted> # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /mnt
[20:50] <genii> scripted: The fstab syntax is like: /dev/to-mount <tab> /mountpoint <tab> filesystem type(s) <tab> filesystem options <tab> dump number <tab> pass number
[20:50] <minimax> gtk-theme-switch2 does not seem to work properly... apply does nothing. does this need a restart of X or something?
[20:51] <genii> scripted: And to edit it, you can do: alt-f2 kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[20:51] <scripted> thank you.
[20:51] <genii> scripted: You're welcome
[20:51] <scripted> ill give it a go.
[20:51] <BooVeMan_work> man fstab ,,,
[20:52] <minimax> or is there something special you have to do in Kubuntu to enable gtk2 themes, besides installing them
[20:52] <scripted> i tried ntfs configuration tool.  but its pants on a stick.
[20:52] <minimax> oh, this also fails with gtk-theme-switch, for gtk 1 themes
[20:53] <scripted> bbl
[20:57] <genii> minimax: Normally it is done the other way, enforcing QT themes onto GTK apps, which package gtk-qt-engine  or gtk-qt-engine-kde4 is normally used
[20:57] <minimax> genii: oh, gtk-qt-engine-kde4.. forgot, since I am using kde4 I should apt-get that
[20:58] <genii> minimax: But you wanted to use GTK themes in ubuntu?
[20:58] <genii> In kubuntu, rather
[20:59] <minimax> genii: I wanted to be able to set it, because it was the default unthemed look
[21:00] <genii> minimax: OK, so then if you want firefox and allt hat to use the KDE theming, thats the one to use
[21:01] <scripted> if i have manually added them as root would it have already put the line in fstab for me?
[21:01] <genii> scripted: ?
[21:01] <minimax> genii: I just symlinked the rc files, and it works
[21:01] <genii> minimax: Good :)
[21:01] <scripted> there are entries in the fstab file that already pertain to the command line i want to enter.
[21:02] <minimax> genii: but Qt4, no matter what theme I have set for KDE4, looks like the default KDE4 theme
[21:02] <minimax> genii: not that it matters, I just didn't want the old blocky one
[21:02] <nado> wtf
[21:02] <nado> somebody gotta help me
[21:02] <nado> i got like 150 processes of python running and i don't know why
[21:03] <genii> scripted: Ah. So long as it has the correct options and so on which allow you to do what you want in the ntfs system, should be ok (and if the /dev names are right)
[21:03] <nado> when i kill em, x seems to crash
[21:03] <scripted> im not going to killmu pc if i get it wrong.
[21:03] <scripted> *kill my
[21:03] <genii> scripted: You should make a backup of the file first for insurance
[21:04] <scripted> help nado first lol. his problem sounds much more urgent lol
[21:04] <nado> scripted: lol thanks. i got a ram usage of 1gb during idle
[21:04] <genii> nado: Did you try to make some custom python script to run at boot?
[21:04] <KDave> what is the best free virtual machine software for linus?
[21:04] <nado> genii: nope, nothing
[21:04] <KDave> linux
[21:05] <genii> (sounds like infinitely recursing problem)
[21:05] <genii> !virtualization
[21:05] <genii> ^ KDave See above
[21:06] <nado> if it were a script, there should be some entry under command in the process table or not? mine just says python
[21:06] <genii> nado: Just "python" is running or some aspecific app name>
[21:06] <nado> genii just python
[21:06] <KDave> genii: thanks I am reading it
[21:07] <KDave> I already have virtual box but it is not alowing my usb to be detected
[21:07] <KDave> which of them is the easiest to use?
[21:08] <KDave> and set up?
[21:08] <genii> KDave: I don't use any but hear best things about VMWare
[21:09] <KDave> yeah I heard a little about that too
[21:09] <nado> crap i'd like to know since when i got that problem...
[21:09] <KDave> I'll look into it
[21:09] <KDave> thanks
[21:09] <genii> nado: Interesting. Is there something in /etc/init.d   that looks like it has python as part of the name?
[21:10] <nado> my init.d is empty?
[21:10] <nado> oh no wait
[21:10] <BooVeMan_work> KDave: vmware has no kernel package vor current ubuntu
[21:10] <genii> nado: Definitely shouldn't be. Thats where the startup scripts are
[21:10] <BooVeMan_work> i'm on virtualbox and works just fine
[21:11] <nado> genii: right, i just tried to open it as a file, didn't know it's a folder. it's not empty, but no sign of anything related to python....
[21:12] <Sydero> genii: there isn't an option when I click the battery icon in the tray
[21:13] <genii> nado: OK. How about anything in folder ~/.kde/Autostart like that?
[21:13] <genii> nado: ~/.kde4/Autostart if on kde4
[21:13] <nado> nothing
[21:14] <genii> nado:Anything in file /etc/rc.local       ?
[21:14] <asktoby> Does anyone in here have Kopete working with their webcam over MSN Messenger?
[21:15] <genii> Sydero: When you right-click on it, should have Restore   as an option to select. It should open the config screen
[21:16] <Sydero> nope, just battery monitor options
[21:16] <Sydero> and unlock widets
[21:16] <genii> Sydero: Ask in #kubuntu-kde4 then please
[21:16] <Sydero> :(
[21:16] <Sydero> it's always inactive there
[21:17] <genii> Sydero: You're using kde4, the battery applet doesn't have rightclick. They need to tell you a way specific to your kde version
[21:17] <nado> crap, hit the wrong process again.... genii: nothing in rc.local either
[21:18] <genii> nado: Hmm. Can you pastebin then the contents of files: ~/.xsession   and ~/.xinitrc
[21:18] <nado> !pastebin
[21:19] <nado> genii: no such files in my home folder...
[21:21] <nado> genii: just this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/29094/ in .xsession-errors
[21:24] <Sydero> Is apm useful anymore if a notebook computer has acpi?
[21:27] <KDave> BooVeMan_work: I have virtual box on my machine but I have difficulty getting it to accept usb connections
[21:28] <nado> damn, i'm gonna get nuts
[21:30] <Sydero> Did you make sure that it's enabled in the vbox options?
[21:30] <Sydero> under settings
[21:30] <sparr> there is a mouse tooltip permanently open on my screen.  i dont know which program created it, and i cant xkill it.  other than restarting X, how might i get rid of it?
[21:30] <Sydero> restart your entire computer :D
[21:32] <Sydero> this might help for the usb thing http://buranen.info/?p=187
[21:32] <Sydero> Since changing /etc/fstab like many people and user's manual suggest to do don't solve the problem, I tried this way:
[21:32] <Sydero> 1 - create a new group called "usb";
[21:32] <Sydero> 2 - locate file usbfs: in my case is /sys/bus/usb/drivers (I suggest to find the file with a usb device inserted;
[21:32] <Sydero> 3 - modify file /etc/fstab inserting a line containing the right path and the number corresponding the "usb" group :
[21:32] <Sydero> none /sys/bus/usb/drivers usbfs devgid=503,devmode=664 0 0
[21:32] <Sydero> 4 - command mount -a;
[21:32] <Sydero> 5 - start VB and try...;
[21:32] <Sydero> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=162084
[21:33] <Sydero> nvm
[21:33] <Sydero> ignore that
[21:33] <Sydero> http://samiux.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/make-usb-works-on-virtualbox-152-ubuntu-710/
[21:34] <KDave> Sydero: you are talking to me right?
[21:35] <Sydero> yes
[21:36] <KDave> ok thanks I will read what you wrote
[21:37] <Sydero> just follow the last link
[21:42] <nado> genii: if in the processtable i list all processes in a tree, that python crap is all listed under kdeinit...
[21:43] <BooVeMan_work> did you istall something recently - like a desktop spide?
[21:43] <nado> BooVeMan_work: me? no
[21:44] <genii> Sorry for lag guys, work is needing me.
[21:44]  * BooVeMan_work goes back thinking
[21:45] <genii> nado: It looks like some "copyover" script for amarok might be at least causing some problem, not sure if the one of python. For that I'd suggest maybe delete the ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc file
[21:46] <lpalomares> Hi there!
[21:46] <TimS> !gnome
[21:46] <Sydero> !kde
[21:46] <Sydero> !kde4
[21:46] <TimS> What package will install gnome? ubuntu-desktop
[21:46] <genii> Yes
[21:47] <Sydero> !blackbox
[21:47] <nado> genii: i stopped the script, that didn't seem to help
[21:47] <Sydero> !kernel
[21:47] <TimS> I thought I had that :(
[21:47] <TimS> !botabuse | Sydero
[21:47] <lpalomares> looking for a link howto put kubuntu on my pendrive
[21:47] <lpalomares> anyone?
[21:47] <genii> nado: OK. I have to leave work but back online in about 1 hour
[21:47] <Sydero> !botabuse | TimS
[21:47] <TimS> ...
[21:47] <nado> genii: great, thanks a lot
[21:56] <Sydero> Can starcraft run on linux?
[21:59] <posingaspopular> yes
[21:59] <posingaspopular> using wine
[22:04] <Sydero> Question: To prelink or not to prelink?
[22:04] <TimS> How can I switch from KDM to GDM as my login?
[22:04] <Pici> TimS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[22:04] <TimS> Thankyou.
[22:04] <TimS> Now, do I want GDM as my login manager :p
[22:05] <lau123> i was trying to setup VNC with KDM with little success.  I got the vnc started through xinetd.  However, kdm greeter crashed leaving only the kdm blue background.  I am using xinetd, tightvnc
[22:06] <lau123> anyone?
[22:07] <lau123> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448
[22:09] <bbeck> Does anyone know how to set certain programs to begin or not to begin when I start KDE?
[22:09] <Sydero> use the autostart file
[22:10] <bbeck> Where is that?
[22:10] <Sydero> which version of kde do you have?
[22:10] <bbeck> Sydero: KDE4
[22:10] <Sydero> goto system settings then advanced
[22:10] <Sydero> then autostart
[22:10] <Sydero> then choose add program
[22:11] <bbeck> Sydero: I see a .kde4/Autostart/ directory, but there's nothing in it.
[22:11] <bbeck> Ok ok
[22:11] <bbeck> er... Oh, ok.
[22:11] <Sydero> there's that too
[22:14] <lau123> i was trying to setup VNC with KDM and got stuck.  I got the vnc started through xinetd.  However, kdm greeter crashed leaving only the kdm blue background.  I am using xinetd, tightvnc.  Anyone has any experience?
[22:14] <BluesKaj> I guess my scripting skills leaves something to be desired , but I misinterpreted a bin/bash that' really a bin/sh. I'm looking for the cmnd that enables the the script to run in init.d
[22:29] <KDave> Syd
[22:30] <KDave> Sydero: I have ubuntu 8.04 and virtual box 1.6
[22:30] <KDave> will that step still apply for that?
[22:33] <mio> ciao
[22:37] <deibis> hoal como estas
[22:37] <joseph> QUESTION how do i find freshly installed packages... cant find them through K
[22:39] <joseph> also getting this warning from "Warning - KDE Panel" -- "A program called 'python' is slowing down the others on your machine. It may have a bug that is causing this, or it may just be busy."
[22:39] <joseph> then stop or keep running
[22:42] <josePH> well shit... everone is sleep
[22:44] <BooVeMan_work> nope I'm around
[22:44] <BooVeMan_work> genii mentioned something liek python as an amaraok script going havoc
[22:44] <BooVeMan_work> this refers to joseph
[22:45] <BooVeMan_work> hit ctrl+esc
[22:45] <BooVeMan_work> ans see if there a 100s of phythons running
[22:46] <josePH> just one
[22:46] <josePH> but im getting this error message for damn near everything!
[22:46] <josePH> just been clicking keep running
[22:46] <josePH> i may need to just reinstall
[22:47] <josePH> its fresh on this machine
[22:47] <BooVeMan_work> dont think so - better find out whats this phython script is doing
[22:47] <BooVeMan_work> ps aux|grep python gives something?
[22:47] <engineer> josePH what message?
[22:48] <josePH> A program called 'python' is slowing down the others on your machine. It may have a bug that is causing this, or it may just be busy.
[22:48] <engineer> josePH http://www.google.com/search?q=A+program+called+%27python%27+is+slowing+down+the+others+on+your+machine.+It+may+have+a+bug+that+is+causing+this%2C+or+it+may+just+be+busy.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[22:49] <PhilRod> josePH: if you don't notice any actual slowdown on your system, just remove the "runaway process catcher" from your panel
[22:49] <PhilRod> or if you're seeing some slowdown, take a look in ksysguard or top to see what process is using up your resources
[22:50] <josePH> ohh shit i think thats when it all started
[22:50] <josePH> how do i get it off?
[22:50] <josePH> nvm got it
[22:50] <josePH> thanks :) stoner moment
[22:51] <josePH> now back to the first question... installed packages i can t find???
[22:51] <josePH> that one slips me at this moment also
[22:52] <PhilRod> what do you want to "find" about them? their names?
[22:52] <josePH> where the hell they are so i can .... click the icon heh
[22:53] <PhilRod> most user-visible apps will install themselves in your k menu
[22:53] <PhilRod> just look in the appropriate category
[22:53] <josePH> i have .... all of the were p2p clients
[22:54] <josePH> wouldnt they be in the same place? installed 5 found one
[22:54] <PhilRod> they'd all be under "internet" I imagine
[22:54] <josePH> just Murmur
[22:55] <josePH> and i cant figure out how to use it
[22:55] <PhilRod> what else did you install?
[22:55] <josePH> ... i really fried
[22:55] <josePH> cant remember
[22:55] <josePH> just done it 5 mins ago
[22:57] <PhilRod> that might be a more fundamental problem
[22:57] <PhilRod> which you'd want to sort out first
[22:57] <josePH> lol
[22:58] <BooVeMan_work> other chance : open apedt again and do the same seach again - like seraching p2p
[22:58] <BooVeMan_work> there the install ones wil be marked
[22:59] <BooVeMan_work> *adept
[22:59] <josePH> using synaptic
[23:03] <BooVeMan_work> same thing - different gui
[23:03] <josePH> lol
[23:04] <josePH> i got ya...
[23:04] <josePH> thanks
[23:04] <sven_> hi all
[23:05] <sven_> i have a problem with my firefox installation...im running kubuntu 4.1 and uninstalled firefox 3.0 some weeks ago...now, each time i want to reinstall it, it installs the version 2....anybody an idea?
[23:06] <sven_> kde 4.1...i meant
[23:08] <grinias> there is #kubuntu-kde4 for kde 4 related questions
[23:08] <BooVeMan_work> sven_: when serching apt-cache are there more than one firefox? - like a firefox3?
[23:10] <sven_> BooVeMan_work: could you please give me the full console command, then i will try it
[23:11] <BooVeMan_work> sven_: apt-cache search firefox
[23:12] <sven_> BooVeMan_work: there are a lot entries for version 2 and 3
[23:14] <histo> !test > histo
[23:14] <histo> hrm...
[23:14] <BooVeMan_work> i figured - but there are ususally only two which call tehmself fiefox - in my case (kubuntu 8.04) firefox (a meta package whcih points to:), firefox-3.0 and firefox-2 - in which case
[23:15] <BooVeMan_work> apt-get install firefox will isntal firefox 3
[23:16] <BooVeMan_work> but you may install as well apt-get install firefox-2
[23:16] <sven_> okay, one second, i try it
[23:17] <nikhil> Is this the Help Channel?
[23:17] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys, can anyone rdp into a windows machine using krdc? ive had no luck!
[23:18] <BooVeMan_work> no prop - do that all the tim
[23:19] <BooVeMan_work> are you trying to connect to aworkstation or a server?
[23:19] <sven_> BooVeMan_work: if looks like firefox 3 would be installed...but i have no icon in the menu and when i search in the kde menu search, the will be only show the firefox 2
[23:19] <ForzaPalermo> workstation
[23:20] <ForzaPalermo> well both
[23:20] <BooVeMan_work> try firefox-3.0 in the console
[23:20] <ForzaPalermo> it just craps out right away
[23:20] <BooVeMan_work> for workstations you'll need to enable the remote access
[23:20] <ForzaPalermo> server is ienabled
[23:20] <ForzaPalermo> from any computer (dumb i know)
[23:21] <BooVeMan_work> if you can't get anywhere - is theree a firewall involved?
[23:21] <sven_> BooVeMan_work: that worked...firefox version 3 would started
[23:21] <BooVeMan_work> like ufw on your machine
[23:21] <ForzaPalermo> hold on im installing rdesktop
[23:21] <BooVeMan_work> sven_: welcome
[23:21] <BooVeMan_work> TAHT would help a lot
[23:21] <ForzaPalermo> crap
[23:21] <ForzaPalermo> that was it
[23:21] <ForzaPalermo> lol
[23:21] <ForzaPalermo> well why wouldnt it be installed by default
[23:22] <ForzaPalermo> to rdp in
[23:22] <BooVeMan_work> because krdc connects by default to vnc
[23:22] <BooVeMan_work> and rdesktop y M$ crap
[23:23] <ForzaPalermo> its slowo as balls this krdc
[23:24] <sven_> BooVeMan_work: thank you for your help...i think i will find a way on the docs to replace the old shortcut
[23:25] <BooVeMan_work> not that bad on GBit ether...
[23:26] <ForzaPalermo> is there anything thats better than krdc in terms of usability?
[23:31] <florian__> Hi! How can i setup fonts for firefox and thunderbird under kubuntu? 8.04
[23:32]  * genii sips his coffee
[23:34] <BooVeMan_work> florian__: like aon any platform - in the preferences
[23:35] <genii> Did nado get his situation of hundreds instances of python running on the box sorted out?
[23:36] <florian__> BooVeMan_work: in which preferences? Firefox or kde? I changed fonts in kde (system-settings) but they doesn't have effects to thunderbird. And in thunderbird i didn't found preferences to change the front
[23:36] <florian__> font
[23:37] <BooVeMan_work> florian__: that would be in ff ant tb directly in my tb 2.0 there is a tab display to choose the font - but as well you can change the css oth your installed theme
[23:40] <florian__> I installed a package named "gtk-qt-engine-kde4". Have to restart my kde and then all gtk-programs should use the kde style. I'll try and report in a second....
[23:41] <Sydero> sounds interesting
[23:41] <florian> Hi!
[23:41] <florian> It works :-)
[23:41] <Sydero> What did it change?
[23:41] <grinias> florian__: i have tested it and it works just fine
[23:42] <florian> I read it on this site: http://noronha.id.au/?p=36
[23:42] <Sydero> Does it change how firefox looks?
[23:42] <Taggnostr> how can I use the kubuntu live cd to kill vista on the harddisk?
[23:42] <Sydero> or xchat
[23:42] <florian> Works like a charme
[23:43] <Sydero> you would delete the partition during setup tagg
[23:43] <Sydero> florian, do you use firefox?
[23:43] <florian> yes
[23:43] <Sydero> does it look different now?
[23:43] <Sydero> with the update
[23:43] <florian> yes
[23:43] <Sydero> ooooh
[23:43] <Sydero> can you post a screenshot :D ?
[23:43] <florian> I use tahoma 8pt without antialiasing :-)
[23:43] <Taggnostr> is there an installation howto?
[23:44] <Taggnostr> !install
[23:44] <Sydero> Tagg during the install, it'll prompt you
[23:44] <Taggnostr> thanks ubottu and Sydero, I'm going to try it
[23:44] <Sydero> but that would be the ubuntu install cd
[23:45] <grinias> Sydero: here is the amasing result http://www.foo-gr.blogspot.com/
[23:45] <Sydero> omg omg omg
[23:45] <Sydero> that's what I've been looking for
[23:46] <Sydero> wtf
[23:46] <Sydero> it's going to install all this gnome stuff too
[23:47] <florian> Syndero: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2695/firefoxab5.png
[23:48] <Sydero> k brb
[23:51] <Taggnostr> how should I set up the partitions during the installation?
[23:51] <Taggnostr> /root /home and /swap?
[23:52] <florian> Sydero: and thunderbird: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2038/thunderbirdba2.png
[23:52] <XJman> Is there a way to install ndiswrapper from a disc? I'm trying to install it on a pc that can't get internet at all
[23:52] <Sydero> I installed it and nothing has changed...
[23:53] <Sydero> firefox still looks aweful
[23:53] <florian> Sydero: you mean the design-thing?
[23:53] <florian> Sydero: do you use kde4?
[23:53] <Sydero> yes
[23:53] <Sydero> well 4.1RC
[23:54] <BooVeMan_work> Taggnostr: I usually do / /boot /home swap
[23:54] <Taggnostr> /boot?
[23:54] <Sydero> but I didn't change any settins
[23:54] <Sydero> so I'm going to do that first
[23:54] <florian> Then open the system-settings -> appearance (here it is "erscheinungsbild" :-) -> GTK-Styles and fonts -> "Use my KDE style in GTK applications"
[23:55] <Sydero> yeah
[23:55] <Sydero> just did that
[23:55] <Sydero> brb
[23:56] <BooVeMan_work> Taggnostr: yep - boot partition - there will go my linux images
[23:57] <Taggnostr> I'm not sure if I need that
[23:57] <BooVeMan_work> Taggnostr: and as benifit I can boot into gparted-live-cd and shift my partitions arround (well not the boot one...)
[23:57] <thomas__> hello
[23:57] <grinias> Sydero: Since edgy I had to do a "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" to really get the result shown in the snapshots i sent you before
[23:58] <Taggnostr> and I don't think I'll need to shift the partitions around :P
[23:59] <XJman> Does the latest Kubuntu come with ndiswrapper on the install?