| === mbp_ is now known as poolie | ||
| CarlFK | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/250340 "Add a comment/attachment" ... how? | 00:19 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250340 in ubuntu "alt install: Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.26-4-generic" [Undecided,New] | 00:20 |
| thumper | CarlFK: are you asking how to add a comment or an attachment or both? | 00:21 |
| thumper | CarlFK: click on the link, and a form should appear | 00:21 |
| thumper | CarlFK: needs JS | 00:21 |
| thumper | CarlFK: or if JS is disabled, it *should* take you to another page | 00:21 |
| CarlFK | i reloaded the page, now it is a link | 00:31 |
| wgrant | thumper: You are of course assuming that production is serving CSS and JS. That isn't a valid assumption at this point. | 01:02 |
| hansengel | Hi, I messed up here.. I accidentally created a milestone named '1.1' inside the 'trunk' release series, which I don't use. I just realized this after already filing bugs under this milestone. How can I move the milestone to the '1.0' series, and delete the 'trunk' series? | 01:26 |
| hansengel | my project is at https://launchpad.net/twitkit | 01:26 |
| hansengel | hi, are there any launchpad admins in here? I need this release series to be deleted https://launchpad.net/twitkit/trunk | 02:37 |
| Rinchen | hansengel, please file an answer ticket (see irc top) and someone should get around to it tomorrow during the week | 02:40 |
| hansengel | Rinchen: okay, thanks | 02:43 |
| Wofl | hey, who do i talk to if i need a project to be renamed? | 04:26 |
| mwhudson | Wofl: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 04:26 |
| Wofl | not possible to find someone on irc really fast? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | Wofl: probably not at this time. | 04:29 |
| Wofl | ok, thanks | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | Wofl: and i'm not sure that "really fast" is a priority for launchpad. | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | (in general, anyway) | 04:29 |
| thumper | :) | 04:34 |
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| Wofl | its ok, i just submitted it there | 04:43 |
| Wofl | lets see how long that tkaes | 04:43 |
| Wofl | takes* | 04:44 |
| spm | Wofl: name changed. Sorry for delay. Was recovering a downed server. :-) | 05:00 |
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| poolie | hey that was actually pretty fast :-) | 05:17 |
| Wofl | thanks a lot | 05:42 |
| Wofl | did you see my question regarding a redirect? | 05:43 |
| thumper | yeah, LP isn't set up to handle redirects right now | 05:54 |
| thumper | we have raised it before WRT renaming projects | 05:54 |
| thumper | cool URLs don't die and all that | 05:54 |
| Wofl | thumper: just toss a php file in there for now? or that too much extra? | 06:09 |
| thumper | haha | 06:10 |
| thumper | sorry | 06:10 |
| thumper | the entire system is "virtual" | 06:10 |
| thumper | a zope based web servcie | 06:10 |
| thumper | service | 06:10 |
| Wofl | i see... | 06:16 |
| Wofl | should i register a ndiswrapprer project and have a like to the real page? | 06:47 |
| lut4rp | I have a branch in my project, which has one subscriber. I cant delete that branch, and I cant figure out how to remove that subscriber. Can someone help me? | 07:10 |
| jml | lut4rp: you have to contact the subscriber and ask them to unsubscribe. | 07:12 |
| lut4rp | jml, even if I am the admin of the project? | 07:13 |
| jml | lut4rp: yep. | 07:13 |
| lut4rp | jml, thanks | 07:13 |
| kblin | morning folks | 08:17 |
| kblin | what's the best way to make the bug tracker changes go to a mailing list? sorry if that's sort of a common question, but I'm still waiting for answers.lp.n to come up for me, I'm on a really lousy connection | 08:20 |
| BjornT | kblin: you can create a team, setting the mailing list address as the 'contact address'. you can then subscribe that team to the project's bugs. | 08:34 |
| kblin | I can make a team a member of another team, right? | 08:37 |
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| BjornT | kblin: yes | 08:42 |
| kblin | BjornT: ok, that'll do then. Thanks :) | 08:44 |
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| === stub1 is now known as stub | ||
| gnomefreak | any LP admins awake yet? | 09:57 |
| lut4rp | I am using bazaar and lp for the first time. sorry if this is dumb, but i am unable to figure out how to push to trunk. I have an ssh key. can someone help me? | 09:58 |
| spiv | lut4rp: what command are you trying? | 10:03 |
| spiv | lut4rp: and what error are you getting? | 10:03 |
| gnomefreak | spiv: i dont think he has by the sound of it hes not sure of the commands | 10:04 |
| lut4rp | spiv, i am trying "bzr push lp:poonji" as it says on my project page. | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | i was gonna look they all up | 10:04 |
| lut4rp | strangely, i have got no response or error for the past 15 mins. | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp: did you commit first? | 10:04 |
| lut4rp | gnomefreak, sorry, what do you mean by that? | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp: you have to commit the files that you are trying to push. | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp: hold on i have all the commmands you need | 10:05 |
| lut4rp | gnomefreak, okay. | 10:06 |
| lut4rp | hmm, its saying on LP, Branch format 6 | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | damn i dont have them but first you have to make your local files a branch | 10:07 |
| lut4rp | Repository format: Packs containing knits without subtree support | 10:07 |
| lut4rp | gnomefreak, and how do I do that? | 10:07 |
| spiv | lut4rp: you mean the 'bzr push lp:poonji' command has given no response for 15 minutes? | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp: theres bzr docs online. iirc its "init" than "commit" than push but you would have to read docs. once i get a sec ill find them | 10:08 |
| lut4rp | spiv, you're right. I am on ubuntu hardy, if that's needed. | 10:09 |
| lut4rp | okay, i did do "init" | 10:10 |
| * lut4rp looks up "commit" | 10:10 | |
| gnomefreak | lut4rp: it commits the files to get them ready to be pushed | 10:10 |
| lut4rp | hmm, it should be more verbose :) | 10:11 |
| spiv | lut4rp: you should have gotten a response from the command like "No revisions to push." | 10:11 |
| lut4rp | spiv, but I didn't. I cancelled it anyway now. | 10:12 |
| spiv | lut4rp: yeah, that sounds like a bug. If you could pastebin your ~/.bzr.log I'd be interested to see where it got stuck. | 10:13 |
| spiv | lut4rp: Anyway, http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html is worth looking over if you haven't already. | 10:13 |
| lut4rp | oh thanks! | 10:13 |
| gnomefreak | spiv: are you LP admin by chance? | 10:14 |
| spiv | gnomefreak: nope | 10:15 |
| spiv | Just a bzr developer (and ex-launchpad developer). | 10:15 |
| gnomefreak | it seems teams only have a month when you renew the membership this has just happened ice had team for over a year now i have to renew every month | 10:16 |
| spiv | gnomefreak: that doesn't sound good, but unfortunately I don't know anything about that. | 10:17 |
| alecw1 | Why isn't Launchpad open-source? | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | alecw1: parts of it is | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | just not the part we use ;) | 10:17 |
| alecw1 | which parts? | 10:17 |
| spiv | alecw1: https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ#Is%20Launchpad%20Free%20Software/open%20source?%20If%20not,%20why%20not? | 10:17 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: The team admin sets the renewal period... | 10:19 |
| alecw1 | So, it's closed because (1) you don't want "multiple launchpads", and (2) it helps funding? | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: i set it to not expire when i made it over a year ago | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | or longer | 10:19 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: That sounds unlikely and bad. | 10:19 |
| gnomefreak | Created on: 2006-12-27 | 10:20 |
| wgrant | And none of my teams work like that. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | What are the settings? | 10:20 |
| alecw1 | Will Launchpad ever release it's source? | 10:20 |
| alecw1 | its* | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | aafter hitting renew i got Membership renewed until 2008-08-26. | 10:20 |
| gnomefreak | a month? | 10:20 |
| wgrant | alecw1: 'Unlike those other services, we have committed to making Launchpad Free Software.' | 10:20 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: How is the team configured, what do you expect to happen, and what happens? | 10:21 |
| alecw1 | Okay, but I'm wondering why it's not open-source, not "free". | 10:21 |
| gnomefreak | Subscription period: 0 | 10:21 |
| wgrant | Open source is almost sysnonymous with Free. | 10:21 |
| wgrant | *synonymous | 10:21 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: i expect it to work the same way since the date i showed you above | 10:22 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Huh? What does the date have to do with anything? | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam | 10:22 |
| alecw1 | wgrant: no, that's not true at all. Things that are free as in "free beer" are not the same as "you can look at the ingredients, and the recipe here, for free." | 10:22 |
| wgrant | alecw1: 'Free Software' has a specific meaning. | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: the sate i created it. this is the first time i had to renew it and now it seems like its monthly | 10:22 |
| wgrant | Meaning free as in speech, not as in beer. | 10:22 |
| gnomefreak | s/sate/date | 10:23 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: You probably have an expiry date set... | 10:23 |
| alecw1 | What does it mean that it is free "as in speech"? | 10:23 |
| stgraber | alecw1: in this sentence "Free Software" is meant as in "free speech", LP is already free so there would be no point in saying "we have commited to making" otherwise | 10:23 |
| wgrant | alecw1: Same as it means for any other piece of Free Software. | 10:24 |
| kblin | alecw1: if you want to fix the free as in beer vs. free as in speech thing, find out where to file a bug about the English language | 10:24 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: no i just showed you. please look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam | 10:24 |
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| gnomefreak | and give me a hint on wtf is wrong | 10:24 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Subscript period != your expiry date | 10:24 |
| wgrant | *subscription period, damnit. | 10:24 |
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| gnomefreak | is 0 | 10:25 |
| alecw1 | wgrant: I'm not sure what "free as in in free-speech" metaphor means. Can you explain? | 10:25 |
| kblin | alecw1: for all practical purposes, "free as in free speech" for software means open source | 10:25 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Have you altered your expiration date since you were last asked to renew? And are you sure it's on that team? | 10:25 |
| wgrant | alecw1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software is good. | 10:26 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: no this is the first time i had to renew | 10:26 |
| alecw1 | you mean, "I have the right to browse the code source." | 10:26 |
| gnomefreak | i havent touched any settings | 10:26 |
| alecw1 | because "open source" literally means... "open source". | 10:26 |
| kblin | alecw1: there's some philosophical connotations to both "Open Source" and "Free Software" | 10:26 |
| wgrant | alecw1: But Free Software implies something extra. | 10:27 |
| alecw1 | Not just that it is "free" as in beer? | 10:27 |
| wgrant | There are many Open Source licenses which are unfortunately not Free Software. | 10:27 |
| wgrant | RIght. | 10:27 |
| alecw1 | So, how does the community benefit from a project being "free software" without releasing its source? | 10:28 |
| kblin | alecw1: yeah, but what about a license where you're allowed to see the source, but not to modify it? :) | 10:28 |
| wgrant | That's not possible. | 10:28 |
| wgrant | Free Software implies Open Source. | 10:28 |
| wgrant | But not vice-versa. | 10:28 |
| gnomefreak | found the issue and fixed it | 10:28 |
| alecw1 | Then Launchpad should be open source, right? | 10:28 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: What was the issue? | 10:28 |
| alecw1 | If you claim to be "free software". | 10:28 |
| wgrant | alecw1: They do not claim to be free software. | 10:28 |
| wgrant | They claim they will be. | 10:28 |
| alecw1 | "we have committed to making Launchpad Free Software. " | 10:29 |
| stgraber | alecw1: please read the page you were pointed to before ... "we have committed to making Launchpad Free Software." | 10:29 |
| alecw1 | Oh. | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: i missunderstood since mozillateam is owner of mozillasquad it was mozillasquad page that was causing it | 10:29 |
| alecw1 | So, you are NOT "Free Software" right now. | 10:29 |
| stgraber | indeed | 10:29 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Aha. So I was right: "And are you sure it's on that team?" | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | it was saying mozillateam as owner the relationship between 2 team would expire | 10:29 |
| alecw1 | Therefore, you have committed to release the source code, eventually, correct? | 10:29 |
| wgrant | alecw1: Note that there are no official Launchpad people involved in this conversation right now. | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 10:29 |
| alecw1 | wgrant: noted. =) | 10:30 |
| alecw1 | Has Launchpad made any progress to just "eventually"? | 10:30 |
| gnomefreak | You must specify a default renewal period greater than 0. | 10:30 |
| gnomefreak | since when | 10:30 |
| alecw1 | I mean, it would be great to have a timeframe, or some sort of specification for when they will release the backend. | 10:30 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Leave it blank, I suspect. | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: same thing | 10:31 |
| kblin | alecw1: the way I read the FAQ, it seems so | 10:31 |
| * kblin shrugs | 10:31 | |
| kblin | I have to admit I don't care. :) | 10:31 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Ensure you have the first option selected. | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | its optional so i shouldnt have to put anything there and im assuming nothing == 0 | 10:31 |
| wgrant | AS one can't automatically renew for 0 days. | 10:31 |
| alecw1 | I mean, they have "dedicated" to "becoming" free software, but I would like some sort of real commitment that it WILL happen. | 10:31 |
| wgrant | alecw1: As would we all. | 10:31 |
| wgrant | alecw1: Parts have been released. | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | subscription policy == openteam | 10:32 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: No, the renewal policy. | 10:32 |
| alecw1 | wgrant: which parts? significant ones? | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | subscription period == 30 | 10:32 |
| wgrant | alecw1: Storm is pretty significant, I suspect. | 10:32 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Period != policy. | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | next invite them to renew their own memebership | 10:32 |
| alecw1 | Oh, there is a paragraph showing what they have released. | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | renewal period == problem | 10:33 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Right, that's the problem. | 10:33 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Set it to not allow them to renew their own? | 10:33 |
| kblin | alecw1: you're preaching to the choir here. I doubt any foss developer would mind more open source software | 10:33 |
| mwhudson | yeah, releasing cscvs really enabled community contributions! | 10:33 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: You can't allow them to renew their own but then say you can only renew for 0 time. | 10:33 |
| mwhudson | </sarcasm> | 10:33 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: But cscvs is useless as we have bzr-svn. | 10:33 |
| wgrant | And it seems to work. | 10:33 |
| wgrant | Whereas other parts of LP do not. | 10:33 |
| alecw1 | kblin: I'm certainly not trying to preach, I'm just trying to understand, and get some sort of feel for the current status with launchpad's status as free software. | 10:33 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: it's still the best choice for importing cvs when you don't have the ,v files, afaik | 10:34 |
| * gnomefreak confused only thing that matches that is renew their membersip auto.. also notifie admins | 10:34 | |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Probably so. | 10:34 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: EPARSE | 10:34 |
| wgrant | 'invite them to apply for renewal' | 10:34 |
| mwhudson | (i would actually be extremely interested if i'm wrong about this) | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | When someone's membership is about to expire, notify them and: | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | 05:33 < wgrant > gnomefreak: You can't allow them to renew their own but then say you can only renew for 0 time. | 10:35 |
| alecw1 | I can't think of a reason they wouldn't release the source code, either. They are currently well established in the open-source community, thus, they probably don't have to worry about being one-upped by someone with their own source. | 10:35 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Yes? | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | you are conflicting comments | 10:35 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Where is this conflict? | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | you said dont let them renew | 10:35 |
| wgrant | I don't see where I've said otherwise. | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: oh i see it i had to scroll :( | 10:36 |
| wgrant | That form needs rewording, but it's quite intelligible. | 10:36 |
| kblin | alecw1: hm, sorry, that's a figure of speech. I mean you're telling this to people who will agree with you | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: it sounded conflicking sinc ei couldnt see whole page | 10:36 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Ah. | 10:36 |
| wgrant | It is strange that it's labelled as optional when it is in fact required most of the time. | 10:36 |
| wgrant | And I shall now run off and file a bug. | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | ok so everything will stay good than? | 10:36 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: If you have the first radio button selected, it should let you pass. | 10:37 |
| alecw1 | kblin: well, I guess it ended up like that, yes. But originally I was just curious about Launchpad's code. | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: it did | 10:37 |
| alecw1 | Thanks a lot, everyone. | 10:37 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Great. | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | wgrant: thanks | 10:38 |
| wgrant | np | 10:38 |
| wgrant | gnomefreak: Bug #173019 | 10:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 173019 in launchpad ""Renewal period" is marked as "(Optional)" when it isn't" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173019 | 10:39 |
| wgrant | (thankyou Hobbsee) | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | ah not just me | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: opened that bug? | 10:39 |
| wgrant | She did. | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | she seems to open bugs just beofre i see the issue | 10:40 |
| wgrant | This was 80000 bugs ago. | 10:40 |
| wgrant | Hm, that's a few bugs. | 10:40 |
| gnomefreak | maybe she should stand in door way to this channel and tell people problems when she finds them ;) save us alot of worrk | 10:40 |
| wgrant | Heh. | 10:40 |
| * wgrant shakes a fist at mpt. You broke my automated process for looking at each Launchpad bug by making the milestone easy to see. | 10:42 | |
| mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 11:00 |
| mpt | wgrant, what automated process? | 11:06 |
| wgrant | mpt: The one where I automatically expand the task (sorry) to see if it's going to be fixed in the next 12 months. | 11:07 |
| mpt | aha | 11:07 |
| mpt | I didn't break that, the milestone's still there | 11:07 |
| mpt | I just made it unnecessary ;-) | 11:07 |
| wgrant | Some pleasant retraining will be required. | 11:07 |
| wgrant | This is true. | 11:07 |
| geser | where did the box with the package versions on the bug page go? I was quite handy while doing sponsoring for checking the last version and component | 11:09 |
| wgrant | geser: To mpt's context independent land | 11:09 |
| wgrant | One decision I see the rationale for, but cannot agree with. | 11:09 |
| mpt | geser, hover over the package name | 11:10 |
| wgrant | mpt: Where is this documented? | 11:10 |
| wgrant | And woah that date is ugly. | 11:11 |
| wgrant | And there are no links :( | 11:11 |
| geser | mpt: thanks for the hint. It contains all the info I need | 11:11 |
| mpt | wgrant, do you have any suggestions for where we could document its new position that would be easier to find than its new position? | 11:11 |
| wgrant | mpt: It could be inside the task. | 11:12 |
| geser | wgrant: LP just want to be precise about the upload date :) | 11:12 |
| wgrant | Or somewhere less completely undiscoverable. | 11:12 |
| wgrant | It should be in the tooltip as well. | 11:12 |
| wgrant | But it should be mentioned in the non-existent page help. | 11:12 |
| wgrant | As I don't want to have to hover over every element on the page or grep through the source to work out what has a .title. | 11:13 |
| mpt | wgrant, eventually we want to get rid of the expandable section, so that wouldn't be a long-term design | 11:14 |
| wgrant | mpt: Where do all of the widgets go!? | 11:14 |
| mpt | a long-term solution, rather | 11:14 |
| mpt | wgrant, into the table when you click on a cell. | 11:15 |
| mpt | e.g. click "New" and it turns into an option menu. | 11:15 |
| mpt | Click the package name and it turns into a text field. | 11:15 |
| mpt | etc. | 11:15 |
| wgrant | mpt: Oh, I thought that that must have been dismissed as an option, as it's rather obvious. | 11:15 |
| wgrant | I was thinking that the package name could act somewhat like an <abbr> | 11:16 |
| mpt | It already does, in the sense that <abbr> usually has title=, and the package name has title= giving its details | 11:16 |
| wgrant | ? cursor, dotted underline, which everyone knows to mean it has a tooltippy thing. | 11:16 |
| mpt | In what sense do you mean it? | 11:16 |
| mpt | ah | 11:16 |
| wgrant | I spent all too much time cleaning a webapp UI up today. So I might be annoyed and wrong. | 11:19 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: no, i opened the bug ages ago when creating a team, after the auto-expiry stuff. | 11:30 |
| Hobbsee | that's months old | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 11:31 |
| * gnomefreak very behind ;) | 11:31 | |
| Hobbsee | dear launchpad, if you can't cope with Big Numbers, why do you let me enter them in your fields? | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | why not restrict me to numbers the size that you can actually handle. no love, me. | 11:43 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: What's this? | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: manually reprio'ing a build. | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: LP will let you put in a Very Big Number, then will oops, presumably because the number is too big. | 11:44 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Nice. How big were you making it? | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i held down '9' for a couple of seconds, so pretty long. | 11:45 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | surely, if you've only got a limited number of possible inputs, you can limit the number of digits that can be entered, so your software *won't* fall over. | 11:45 |
| wgrant | I think you need a 'build this now really kthxbye' button. | 11:45 |
| wgrant | Or at least fail gracefully. | 11:46 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: buildd.py tends to do that, yes. | 11:46 |
| Hobbsee | i was just already there, and only wanted to hit one arch. | 11:46 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, please report that, (I assume) I don't have permission so I can't give an example URL | 12:21 |
| mpt | (I mean I don't have permission to reprioritize a build, not that I don't have permission to report a bug) | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: i've already reported it for the length of time for members of a team to be invited to renew, and afaik, that hasn't been fixed yet. | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/logwatch/7.3.6.cvs20080702-1ubuntu1/+build/662729/+rescore is a sample url | 12:23 |
| Hobbsee | well, is the one i used before | 12:23 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, that's a separate bug that'll need a separate fix | 12:23 |
| mpt | ok | 12:23 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, do you have the oops code handy? (or generate a new one?) | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | you'll have to find something that hasn't built yet, and look up the build, and add +rescore to it for another one. | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | i do not. | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: (Error ID: OOPS-933EA36) | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/softgun/0.16-2.1/+build/666832/+rescore | 12:25 |
| mpt | thankyew | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | np. | 12:25 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, do you happen to know what the maximum value is? | 12:26 |
| mpt | Ursinha, welcome! | 12:27 |
| Ursinha | mpt, hi! :) | 12:27 |
| Ursinha | thanks :) | 12:27 |
| mpt | Everybody, Ursinha is our new QA person | 12:28 |
| * Ursinha waves | 12:28 | |
| andrea-bs | hi Ursinha! I hope you'll like my bugs :D | 12:29 |
| Ursinha | hahahahaha :) | 12:29 |
| Ursinha | andrea-bs, sure i will :) | 12:30 |
| mpt | andrea-bs is one of our most prolific bug reporters | 12:30 |
| andrea-bs | Ursinha: mpt is too generous ;) | 12:31 |
| Ursinha | :) | 12:31 |
| * wgrant apologises to Ursinha in advance. | 12:33 | |
| Ursinha | hahaha why so? | 12:33 |
| wgrant | I file too many bugs. | 12:33 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: 2147483647 is the highest number you can put in. | 12:34 |
| Ursinha | you should be proud of it ;) | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | without LP oopsing. | 12:34 |
| Hobbsee | heya Ursinha | 12:34 |
| wgrant | Oh no! Implementation details! Run! | 12:34 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, reported bug 250490 | 12:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 250490 in soyuz "Entering large rescore value causes an oops" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250490 | 12:35 |
| Ursinha | Hobbsee, hi :) | 12:35 |
| * Hobbsee is another troublesome filer. | 12:36 | |
| Ursinha | so you are the bug gang :P | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | yeah... | 12:36 |
| Hobbsee | and we're the "whine when LP goes down, or otherwise breaks" gang. | 12:36 |
| Ursinha | :) | 12:37 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Whining that one of the production appservers is borked doesn't help on a weekend, unfortunately. | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | wgrant: don't you have numbers of doom to call? | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | actually, i couldn't reproduce the errors. | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | which is why i didn't call. | 12:37 |
| wgrant | Hobbsee: Of course not. | 12:37 |
| geser | wgrant: just abolish weekends for LP admins and LP devs :) | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i see, that's what the subscriber panel is supposed to look like. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | It was only production, so most would have missed it. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | And what's this? A LOSA in a sane timezone! Yay! | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | even when switching to production | 12:38 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, as opposed to...? | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: the bloody mess it is in anything ubuntu-related. | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 12:38 |
| mpt | aha | 12:39 |
| wgrant | At least the actions are up the top now. | 12:39 |
| wgrant | That is a definite improvement. | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, but what shocks me more is you can actually easily see what the next box is underneath it | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | you dont' have to do the scrolling dance first. | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | to the point where the boxes underneath are vaguely useful | 12:39 |
| wgrant | It is much more pleasant navigating LP bugs. | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | although, why we have a search on the lower right, and another one at the bottom, i'm not so sure. | 12:40 |
| mrevell | New Launchpod episode online at: http://news.launchpad.net/podcast/launchpod-episode-8-developer-interview-with-curtis-hovey-and-chat-about-landscape | 12:41 |
| wgrant | Huh? Landscape in Launchpod? | 12:41 |
| * Hobbsee wonders offhand, if planet ubuntu is supposed to be an advertising ground. | 12:42 | |
| mpt | Hobbsee, does that mean you won't scream if I get rid of the search from the lower right? | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: i'd say so - i've never used it. | 12:42 |
| wgrant | I find the LP posts on Planet Ubuntu to be somewhat appropriate. It is a big part of Ubuntu. | 12:42 |
| mpt | I'm fairly sure I've seen posts about bugzilla.gnome.org on Planet Gnome | 12:43 |
| gnomefreak | where is the page to turn off edge.launchpad.net? i thought it would be at launchpad.net but its not there | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | nevermind it wasnt there under edge but is without the edge | 13:00 |
| geser | is there a reason why the edit icon/link for the bug title is after the title while every other icon is before the text? | 13:03 |
| === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch | ||
| mpt | geser, the edit icons for bug supervisors and translation groups are also after the text | 13:19 |
| mpt | The one for bug privacy is before the text, but that'll change soon | 13:19 |
| mpt | Putting the one for the bug title before the text would indent the title oddly | 13:20 |
| mpt | but putting it after makes the title harder to copy | 13:20 |
| mpt | soren, not sure what to do there :-) | 13:20 |
| mpt | arg, *so* I'm not sure what to do there | 13:20 |
| mpt | (that's the second time I've done that in the past week) | 13:21 |
| geser | it looks a little bit inconsistent right now, but if some other links will change soon, perhaps it doesn't look inconsistent afterwards anymore | 13:27 |
| soren | mpt: You're not the only one... :/ | 13:34 |
| soren | :) | 13:34 |
| mpt | soren, at least you don't have a kernel driver named after you | 13:35 |
| soren | Hahah! | 13:35 |
| soren | No, I do not. | 13:35 |
| soren | Yet. | 13:35 |
| soren | :) | 13:35 |
| === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell | ||
| jmunro | does anyone know why my ppa package builds on most architectures, but not amd64? the build deps are correct as far as i can tell | 13:56 |
| jmunro | "dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 needed by debian/sugar-develop-activity/usr/share/sugar/activities/Develop.activity/lib/libgtksourceview-2.0.so (its RPATH is '')." | 13:57 |
| jmunro | i have the required dependancies and this builds fine on i386 | 13:58 |
| mpt | bigjools, ^ | 14:04 |
| mpt | bigjools, can you help jmunro? | 14:19 |
| bigjools | I'll have a look | 14:20 |
| bigjools | jmunro: what is your PPA name please | 14:20 |
| jmunro | chapter78 | 14:21 |
| === EdwinGrub is now known as EdwinGrubbs | ||
| jmunro | im sure its just me making a novice error, but help is appreciated | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | jmunro: which arches is it building on? | 14:27 |
| jmunro | i386, lpia | 14:28 |
| Hobbsee | er, which package? | 14:29 |
| geser | Hobbsee: I'd guess the package is sugar-develop-activity | 14:30 |
| bigjools | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16211531/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.sugar-develop-activity_33-0ubuntu1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:30 |
| Hobbsee | oh, the one that's deleted, and the other two that are superceeded? | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, no wonder i didn't find that one | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | jmunro: didn't you fix it, with ~ppa3? | 14:32 |
| jmunro | nope i made human errors on all of them lol | 14:33 |
| jmunro | excluding the one i deleted, that failed to build | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | no it didn't | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | the one you deleted *did* build. | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | * sugar-develop-activity_33-0ubuntu1~ppa3.diff.gz (1.2 KiB) | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | * sugar-develop-activity_33-0ubuntu1~ppa3.dsc (693 bytes) | 14:33 |
| bigjools | only on i386 | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | * sugar-develop-activity_33-0ubuntu1~ppa3_all.deb (210.8 KiB) | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | * sugar-develop-activity_33.orig.tar.gz (209.7 KiB) | 14:33 |
| jmunro | ppa3 has human error | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | bigjools: yes, that's deliberate. | 14:33 |
| Hobbsee | but that will work on all arches | 14:34 |
| jmunro | Hobbsee: i changed arch to 'all' but this is incorrect | 14:34 |
| Hobbsee | jmunro: why? | 14:34 |
| jmunro | it has .so's, surely these are arch dependent? | 14:34 |
| jmunro | (apologies for taking your time, im inexperienced at creating packages) | 14:35 |
| Hobbsee | oh, hmmm. | 14:37 |
| Hobbsee | libgtk2.0-0 is definetly *built* on all the arches, separately. i don't know :) | 14:37 |
| jmunro | im a bit confused to the nature of the problem, at home i have amd64, i could try building there to see if it stumbles on the same problem | 14:38 |
| bigjools | there might be a problem with the libgtk2.0-0 package on amd64, I dunno | 14:40 |
| jmunro | is it still possible that there is an error on my behalf? | 14:40 |
| MagicFab | Where should I log a bug about news.launchpad.net ? | 14:40 |
| beuno | MagicFab, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-documentation/ | 14:41 |
| MagicFab | gracias :)_ | 14:42 |
| beuno | de nada | 14:42 |
| bigjools | jmunro: I see the package being installed in the build chroot, then dpkg-shlibdeps can't find one of its files. I can't see anything else wrong, sorry I can't help more :( | 14:44 |
| jmunro | thats ok, perhaps there is somewhere else i can find help bigjools? | 14:45 |
| bigjools | jmunro: I like your idea of building it on your home machine | 14:46 |
| jmunro | ill try this tonight | 14:47 |
| bigjools | let me know how it goes | 14:47 |
| jmunro | thanks for your help! | 14:47 |
| bigjools | np, sorry I can't help more | 14:47 |
| mpt | I'm looking for a prettier way to present the "This site is running pre-release code" message on edge.launchpad.net. Anyone have any suggestions? :-) | 15:10 |
| intellectronica | mpt: ah i see what you mean. on my screen, it would fit nicely on the same line as the menu and the username/logout button | 15:12 |
| intellectronica | there may not be enough space on smaller windows, though | 15:12 |
| mpt | intellectronica, which menu? You mean the Launchpad > ... hierarchy? | 15:12 |
| intellectronica | mpt: yes | 15:13 |
| mpt | Yes, whether there was room there would depend highly on the name of any project/package/person and the width of the window | 15:15 |
| andrea-bs | mpt: how about a small "beta" label near the "launchpad" logo on the location bar? | 15:15 |
| mpt | I was thinking maybe a diagonal ribbon in the corner | 15:15 |
| mpt | or something in the footer | 15:15 |
| andrea-bs | in the footer there's "beta site" near the version number | 15:16 |
| mpt | andrea-bs, that would work, but it wouldn't be obvious how to report bugs | 15:16 |
| andrea-bs | mpt: that's right | 15:16 |
| klette | A nice large gif animation of some road workers and a big fat "under construction" sign.. Back to the 90s ;-) | 15:17 |
| mpt | http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-2 | 15:17 |
| klette | hehe | 15:18 |
| klette | A ribbon or something non-intrusive like that is a good idea though. Doesnt need to be a big fat warning, as lp is mainly for developers anyway, and all developers know that beta-software means :-) | 15:19 |
| beuno | mpt, hey there. Is it just me, or under the last item of the hierarchy, there is blank 1-2px blank space? | 15:22 |
| * andrea-bs notices this too | 15:23 | |
| beuno | mpt, also, maybe for pre-release code, you can add an overlapped round icon that says "beta" on the top left of the hierarchy. Like we did with the messages/warnings/errors | 15:24 |
| mpt | beuno, the 1px gap is dependent on your font size and zoom level. I'm expecting it to go away when I redo the hierarchy with floats. | 15:25 |
| beuno | mpt, I have default font size and zoom level set. The only way I can get it to go away is by zooming out. | 15:26 |
| mpt | Well you implemented that, you tell me ;-) | 15:27 |
| beuno | heh, fair enough. I'll take a stab at it, and see if I can find what's causing this | 15:29 |
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| beuno | mpt, I also have a fix for the warning image to send you, which doesn't have a transparent background now | 15:31 |
| mpt | beuno, ah great, I was going to regenerate it from the SVG but hadn't had time yet | 15:32 |
| beuno | mpt, I have somewhere around here an improved SVG, so I'll send you the whole lot | 15:33 |
| mpt | ok, thanks | 15:33 |
| mpt | beuno, since it's going to be rewritten anyway, it's probably not worthwhile to spend time on the 1px gap | 16:04 |
| mpt | More interesting to investigate why the tabs aren't centered and "Answers" wraps occasionally :-) | 16:04 |
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| beuno | mpt, centered by a few pixels? I know why that is already. Answers, on the other hand, hmmm... any way to reproduce that? | 16:27 |
| mpt | beuno, sure, resize the window. Happens at many widths in IE, moderately often in Konqueror, occasionally in Firefox. | 16:28 |
| beuno | ah, I see... | 16:29 |
| beuno | min-width is probably off | 16:30 |
| * beuno pulls | 16:30 | |
| mrevell | Hey, beuno, could you check a line of Spanish text for me please? | 16:50 |
| beuno | hey mrevell, sure | 16:54 |
| mrevell | thanks beuno. "Por favor, seleccione la página de inicio que desea usar" | 16:55 |
| beuno | I don't quite understand in what context that would work, but there's nothing wrong with it | 16:55 |
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| === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch | ||
| beuno | mpt, I don't see the 1px separation in trunk :/ | 17:58 |
| mpt | beuno, try zooming in | 18:00 |
| Dexhu | hello | 18:05 |
| Dexhu | 13 does anayone know anything about - enabled community maintained software (universe) | 18:06 |
| Dexhu | 13 hello | 18:07 |
| === mrevell is now known as mrevell-bbl | ||
| Dexhu | any upgard people here?? | 18:08 |
| Dexhu | any upgrade people here?? | 18:09 |
| mpt | Dexhu, what are "upgrade people"? | 18:10 |
| mpt | Dexhu, this channel is about Launchpad. If you're looking for help with Ubuntu, try #ubuntu. | 18:10 |
| Dexhu | I'm upgrading to 8.04 and I want to knw what - enabled community maintained software (universe) IS?? | 18:10 |
| Dexhu | should I go to Ubuntu to find this anaswer?? | 18:11 |
| LaserJock | Dexhu: #ubuntu would be the right place | 18:11 |
| Dexhu | OK..THX laser jock | 18:12 |
| beuno | mpt, right, if I zoom in enough, I see it. But I have to fiddle with it. Right now, I see if by default | 18:12 |
| beuno | any unlanded changes to the CSS? | 18:12 |
| mpt | beuno, yes, the hierarchy rewrite that I mentioned before :-) | 18:12 |
| beuno | mpt, ignore me, for some reason, I can see the same issue now | 18:13 |
| * beuno grumbles and gets back to CSS | 18:13 | |
| LaserJock | is there somebody about I can bug about bug #81002 ? | 18:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 81002 in malone "Changing sort order after advanced results forgets any assignee value" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81002 | 18:14 |
| LaserJock | it's rather annoying to not be able to sort search results | 18:14 |
| === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara | ||
| LaserJock | is there a reason why sorting was removed? | 18:15 |
| smarter | Hi | 18:41 |
| smarter | How many times does it take for a .pot/.po to be approved? | 18:41 |
| smarter | *how long | 18:44 |
| bdmurray | bug spam is dealt with via answers is that right? | 19:18 |
| matsubara | bdmurray: yes, that's the best way to get lp admins attention. | 19:20 |
| LaserJock | is there a particular reason why I wouldn't be getting bugmail for comments I've made? | 19:36 |
| LaserJock | it's been a number of minutes and I haven't gotten anything | 19:37 |
| andrea-bs | LaserJock: It may be a temporary slowdown. How long have you been waiting? | 19:39 |
| LaserJock | hmm, probably 20min | 19:39 |
| kiko | LaserJock, for what? | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | not all that long, but usually they are quite quick | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | kiko: I've been changing some tags and making comments on some bugs | 19:40 |
| LaserJock | but I haven't gotten any bugmail | 19:40 |
| kiko | LaserJock, hmmm, that's odd | 19:40 |
| === mrevell-bbl is now known as mrevell | ||
| LaserJock | kiko: do you know of any reason why I wouldn't be getting my own bugmail? I've been getting bugmail in general | 19:56 |
| kiko | LaserJock, no, I asked BjornT but he didn't answer, but I've been receiving some at least | 19:56 |
| LaserJock | hmmpf | 19:58 |
| LaserJock | weird | 19:58 |
| andrea-bs | I've filed a bug 8 minutes ago and I've received the mail just now | 20:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 8 in rosetta "Translator forums/means of communication" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8 | 20:07 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I've still got nothing | 20:12 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: you're not using gmail, are you? | 20:46 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: if you are, that's probably the problem. gmail doesn't display mail from yourself by default. | 20:51 |
| kiko | yeah | 20:52 |
| beuno | BjornT, really? I constantly get emails "from myself" that LP sends | 20:52 |
| beuno | to the point where it's annoying :) | 20:52 |
| beuno | reporting bugs, for example | 20:53 |
| BjornT | beuno: i think there is a setting for this. maybe you have changed it (or google changed the default) | 20:53 |
| * beuno looks | 20:55 | |
| beuno | I can't find such a setting | 20:56 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: what? really? | 20:57 |
| LaserJock | I am indeed using gmail | 20:57 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: you could try sending a mail to yourself; see if you get it. | 21:02 |
| LaserJock | ok, I did | 21:04 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: yeah, I do get it when I just send a test email to myself | 21:05 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: I got bugmail from myself on July 10th | 21:06 |
| BjornT | LaserJock, beuno: hmm. i know there used to be such a setting. and from reading the help, it seems like gmail still does it for mails you send to mailing list. maybe there is some auto-detection going on there. | 21:09 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: can you give an example of a bug you changed, but didn't get a notification for? | 21:10 |
| beuno | BjornT, ah, yes, I don't get emails from mailing lists I send, although I always thought that was something the mailing list did for me | 21:10 |
| LaserJock | beuno: many mailing lists are set up that way | 21:11 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: also, are the mail sent directly to you, or through a mailing list? | 21:11 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: which mails? | 21:11 |
| beuno | mrevell, this weeks Launchpod was really good, congrats :) | 21:13 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: sorry, i was referring to the bug notifications. i.e., are you subscribed directly, or through a team that has a mailing list. | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: it wasn't through subscriptions | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | bug #109544 is an example | 21:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 109544 in ubuntu "Automated system update of x64 Kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 has messed up my display settings." [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109544 | 21:14 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: do I have to be subscribed to a bug to get my own bugmail? | 21:15 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: yes | 21:15 |
| LaserJock | why? :( | 21:15 |
| LaserJock | I don't remember needing to in the past | 21:16 |
| kiko | LaserJock, you are auto-subscribed if you reported the bug. I don't know what you are talking about. | 21:17 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: it has always been like that. doesn't make sense to get only your changes, but not anyone else's, does it? | 21:17 |
| kiko | this has never changed | 21:17 |
| LaserJock | are you sure? | 21:18 |
| LaserJock | I swear that I used to get all bugmail | 21:18 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: yes, it very much does make sense | 21:18 |
| LaserJock | I use the bugmail to record what I've done | 21:18 |
| kiko | LaserJock, yes, we're absolutely sure. you /are/ confused, trust me. | 21:20 |
| kiko | LaserJock, if you're not subscribed to a bug, you don't get email about it. end of story. always been that way. you can be however an implicit subscriber. | 21:20 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not sure how I could have been getting that bugmail previously then | 21:21 |
| mario_limonciell | cprov, ping | 21:21 |
| cprov | mario_limonciell: pong | 21:21 |
| LaserJock | I guess it must have been through implicit subscription, but I'm not sure how | 21:21 |
| mario_limonciell | cprov, i got a reject email on my first try to upload dkms to main | 21:21 |
| kiko | anyway, I have a session now, will be back later | 21:21 |
| mario_limonciell | telling me that "Signer is not permitted to upload to the component 'main' of file 'dkms_2.0.20.2-0ubuntu1.dsc'." | 21:21 |
| cprov | mario_limonciell: irght, let me check | 21:22 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: so how do I get a record of what I've done then? if the bugmail is incomplete and the activity logs are incomplete I'm not sure where else I can get information | 21:23 |
| kiko | LaserJock, ubuntu-bugs. | 21:23 |
| matsubara | cprov! | 21:23 |
| kiko | bbl! | 21:23 |
| cprov | matsubara: opa | 21:23 |
| matsubara | cprov: de volta pra terrinha? | 21:23 |
| cprov | matsubara: yup, I'm back home. | 21:25 |
| matsubara | cool. welcome back! | 21:25 |
| cprov | matsubara: thanks | 21:33 |
| mrevell | thanks beuno! | 21:34 |
| cprov | mario_limonciell: there is indeed a problem in the code, mainly caused because you already have perms to 'universe'. I will have to debug it a little more. | 21:37 |
| mario_limonciell | cprov, ah, that's unfortunate then | 21:37 |
| cprov | mario_limonciell: is the upload urgent ? | 21:37 |
| mario_limonciell | cprov, it's not urgent. it's a minor bug fix release | 21:37 |
| cprov | mario_limonciell: ok, give some hours, I will email you soon. | 21:38 |
| mario_limonciell | cprov, okay thank you | 21:38 |
| TuniX12 | hello | 21:42 |
| TuniX12 | how to upload packages into PPA ?? | 21:43 |
| beuno | TuniX12, take a look at: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart | 21:43 |
| mouz | I'd like to use wikiname Mouz. I can not because it is in use by another account. As far as I can see the account has never been used (de-can; created 2005-08-29). I sent a mail about 6 days ago to the mail address on ~de-can, but I got no reply. Can I have the Mouz wikiname somehow? Currently I'm using MouzMouz and redirecting it to 'his' page. | 21:44 |
| jpds | mouz: I'd file a question in Launchpad requesting that the inactive user be deleted. | 21:46 |
| mouz | jpds: ok i'll do that. thanks | 21:47 |
| TuniX12 | hello how to make sha keys? | 21:49 |
| beuno | TuniX12, https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair | 21:50 |
| TuniX12 | beuno: thanks | 21:50 |
| beuno | :) | 21:50 |
| beuno | TuniX12, https://help.launchpad.net/ contains all kinds of wisdom, I'd recommend you check it out | 21:51 |
| TuniX12 | ok thank you | 21:51 |
| beuno | welcome' | 21:52 |
| mario_limonciell | so it appears that with the libtool in intrepid, ltmain.sh got moved from /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh to /usr/share/libtool/config/litmain.sh. Should we be writing patches to configure scripts to handle this, or what's the appropriate policy for it? | 22:31 |
| mwhudson | mario_limonciell: this is definitely not the right place for that question | 22:33 |
| mario_limonciell | oops sorry mwhudson i thought i was in #ubuntu-devel :) | 22:33 |
| mario_limonciell | my bad | 22:33 |
| mwhudson | :) | 22:34 |
| Laibsch | Is it correct that to download translations from launchpad you need to be logged in, IOW you need to have an account? | 22:54 |
| wgrant | It needs to know your email address, doesn't it? | 22:56 |
| emgent | wgrant: heya. | 22:56 |
| wgrant | Hi emgent. I'm about to leave. | 22:57 |
| emgent | why launchpad dont send an email to last uploader if someone open bug on package? | 22:58 |
| wgrant | emgent: Because we don't have the concept of maintainers, and TIL is weak at best. | 22:59 |
| wgrant | You should subscribe to the package's bugs if you want to get them. | 22:59 |
| wgrant | doko doesn't want to get mail for 600 packages because he uploaded a transition | 22:59 |
| emgent | yeah but i can subscribe in a bug, not in package. | 22:59 |
| wgrant | emgent: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/somepackage should have the action. | 23:00 |
| wgrant | You can subscribe to all bugs for a package easily. | 23:00 |
| wgrant | Ah, scrap the 'bugs.' | 23:00 |
| doko_ | wgrant: ? | 23:01 |
| wgrant | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/somepackage/+subscribe | 23:01 |
| wgrant | doko_: Argh, I thought it wouldn't ping you because you had a tail. Sorry. | 23:01 |
| emgent | oh nice, i saw now. | 23:01 |
| Laibsch | wgrant: that is rather suboptimal | 23:07 |
| wgrant | Laibsch: Why? | 23:07 |
| wgrant | Laibsch: It needs to know when to email you. | 23:07 |
| wgrant | *where | 23:07 |
| Laibsch | not if the stuff was available for download | 23:07 |
| wgrant | And it probably needs to stop people from requesting enormous numbers of exports or the world will collapse. | 23:07 |
| Laibsch | I am trying to push LP for translation | 23:07 |
| Laibsch | and this could be the killer for it | 23:07 |
| wgrant | Is it that hard to create an account? The Launchpad account creation process is particularly painless. | 23:08 |
| wgrant | But I must run. | 23:08 |
| Laibsch | well, *I* have an account and I don't see a problem | 23:10 |
| Q-FUNK | howdy! is there any way to relaunch a build that stopped because of a missing build-dep on a ppa? | 23:42 |
| cprov | Q-FUNK: access the build page and click 'retry'. | 23:43 |
| Q-FUNK | ah, ok. let's see... | 23:43 |
| Q-FUNK | I see build logs, but not build actions | 23:44 |
| Q-FUNK | ah | 23:45 |
| Q-FUNK | found | 23:45 |
| Q-FUNK | ot an obvious place | 23:45 |
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