[02:42] up and running [03:18] hi @ all [03:18] is anybody using photoshop cs3 on ubuntu? [03:21] support in #ubuntu [03:27] hardy-neon packages should work with intrepid too, not? [03:28] i wouldn't bet on it === Pici` is now known as Pici [05:03] hi, alpha 3 out thursday? [05:06] can the intel wireless iwl3954 firmware be included, i think it was missing in alpha 2 [05:06] I don't think it was? [05:07] Or, at least, my iwl3945 hasn't stopped working at any point in the Intrepid cycle. [05:07] i did a fresh install with alpha 2 cd [05:11] im pretty sure it was missing from alpha 2 coz i installed it about 5 times [05:12] then had to download and copy it into firmware [05:19] mine's been working fine too [05:59] Desktop CDs are due to drop in Alpha 3, right? [05:59] * LSD|Ninja can't wait [06:01] lsdninja : what do u mean? [06:03] do u mean the alpha 3 cd? [06:18] I've been using Debian/sid for many years at home.. now on Ubuntu at work .. I miss the thrill and occasional brokeness of Sid .. is Intrepid comparable, or will my box explode? :) [06:19] Pretty comparable. [06:20] Lots of stuff is broken in Intrepid right now, you'll cream your pants by the sound of it [06:20] We've past the hugely-less-stable-than-Sid mass-import stage. Now it should be just the regular ordinary development version brokenness, pretty much. [06:20] hmm.. sounds like fun [06:21] Speaking of Sid, I realise that acronym means "Still in Development" but was that chosend because Sid too is a character from Toy Story? [06:22] I think it's both .. I think the acronym is a "backronym" too [06:23] "Sid will break your toys". [06:23] Is the source, I believe. [06:24] It makes sense, I'm just wondering if that's the reason it was chosen [06:31] I think it was, yes. [06:46] Goddamnit, nvidia! Fix the frikkin full-screen black flashes when changing clockspeed already. [06:46] O_o [06:46] what? [06:47] weren't you using nouveau? [06:47] Today I'm testing nvidia-glx-177. [06:47] my card doesn't give black flashes when changing clock speed [06:47] i see [06:47] While running compiz? [06:47] yes [06:47] i use nvclock [06:48] and coolbits or wahtever it was for changing the clock speed isn't existent on my card [06:48] either that or my driver [06:48] so nvclock uses some other backend to do it [06:48] Well, the nvidia drivers will automatically downclock to save power. [06:48] seriously? [06:48] At least on my laptop carde. [06:48] Yes. [06:48] i never knew that [06:48] like cpu freq scaling huh [06:48] I can tell, because everytime they do, the whole screen flashes black! [06:49] lol isn't there a way to disable it [06:49] There might be. On the other hand, I'm a bit of a fan of not burning more battery than strictly necessary. [06:50] I wonder if they're waiting for Alpha 3 before pushing out the new nvidia 96.43 package... [06:50] simple solution to that: tune it to the lowest clock speed and force it to stay [06:50] Well, that option isn't exposed in any of the tools I have. [06:50] LSD|Ninja: doesn't nvidia-glx-96 work? [06:51] He's almost certainly talking about a version that works with the Xserver 1.5 ABI. [06:51] oh [06:52] hyperair_: last I checked, it was 96.43.05. Latest is 96.43.07. nVidia don't explicitly mention xorg 1.5 (they may be waiting for it to ge releases) but I still want to try iy [06:52] okay... so that means that i'm not going to get any nvidia support if i switch to intrepid now [06:52] =( [06:53] then i'll just sit around in arch and wait for it to work [07:30] i have install intrepid as a base installation. and have put lxde as the default window manager. i am trying to change the wallpapers but i am not able to since i can't remember where the settings are . [08:14] i accidently activated a radio button in the gui and the problem started [08:14] why is the channel so quiet? [08:15] or is it me lagging? [08:15] anyone ? [08:24] hi. anyone know how to enable nvidia propietary driver? i know someone did it... [08:26] install nvidia-glx-xxx [08:26] "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-177 && sudo nvidia-xconfig" (and then probably remove the rgb.txt line from your xorg.conf. [08:26] what rgb.txt line? [08:27] Unless you've got a geforce 5, in which case you replace 177 with 173. Or have a geforce 4, in which case you replace 177 with 96. Or have a geforce 2 or below, in which case your computer combusts. [08:28] hyperair__: Apparently nvidia-xconfig will write a line that's no longer accepted in Xserver 1.5; I don't think I hit it because I actually had an xorg.conf file. [08:29] i see [08:29] i never had a rgb.txt line before [08:29] i have a geforce 6200 card. is this one still suported? [08:29] Yes. [08:30] It's a geforce 6. That's still supported by the 177 driver. [08:30] T_T geforce4 for me [08:30] thanks. i'l install it now. [08:32] hyperair__: Nvidia hate you :) [08:33] >=( hate you too nvidia [08:34] one more thing that i hit today. after a clean install the splash screen seems to be broken. i'm not sure how to isolate and find were is the problem. [08:34] The bootsplash? Yeah, that's borken. [08:34] It's usplash (or possibly vm86, or uvesafb) [08:36] i'm not using it, but i just wanted to be sure that it is a known problem. [08:49] it's not working. nvidia-glx-177 is installed but nvidia-xconfig is not. if i try to install nvidia-xconfig synaptic is trying to remove nvidia-glx-177. is kinda odd... and on gnome-app-install it says this: "NVidia binary X.Org driver ('new' driver) cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)." === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [12:53] Hi all [12:53] anyone here using xgl? [12:54] why would you want to use xgl? [12:54] i've always used xgl and i think its better than just xorg [13:01] why don't you use aiglx? [13:01] xgl is the worst thing you could do to get 3d working [13:01] seriously [13:01] it's slow, adds an extra layer [13:01] bla [13:02] not 3d, just compiz-fusion [13:02] brb [13:03] hello if you have 2 .deb files (new kernel) and one is an image and the other an header wich do you need to install first? [13:05] s0u][ight: doesnt matter much IIRC but you are safe with image [13:05] than headers [13:05] ace_: sorry, i meant compiz fusion too. aiglx > xgl [13:05] hint you dont need headers for normal useage [13:47] hi all [13:48] i have installed intrepid by doing custom installation. [13:48] now i want to install pulse audio without having alsa drivers [13:48] is it possible ? [13:49] if so what are the packages that are needed ? [13:49] !pulseaudio [13:49] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [13:52] is alsa required ? [13:53] ikonia: are u busy ? [14:03] hello in my UPdate-Manager i have a package called Ubuntu-Desktop and i can't select it ! whats wrong?? === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [15:40] besides nfs, is there any way to copy files over from one computer to another while preserving uid, gid and permissions? === marko_ is now known as marko-_- === x-spec-t is now known as Spec [16:38] would a package dependency mistake in hardy be fixed in hardy or wait for intrepid? [16:40] Depends on how serious it is [16:43] firefox version 3.0 depends on firefox-3.0 when it should depend on firefox-3.0 version 3.0 [16:47] ahh, didnt realize #ubuntu-bugs existed [16:47] perhaps a better venue for my question === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle [17:52] One thing that really bugs me: "Lock Applet" does not work as one would expect. [17:53] If you change screen resolutions... chances are, your panel layout will be trampled upon. [17:55] That's assuming you can change resolutions without hand editing xorg.conf >_< [17:59] My laptop can. [18:00] I do have to edit xorg.conf to change touchpad settings, though. [18:03] I can get it to change resolutions without messing with xorg.conf after a fashion but there are times when I feel editing xorg.conf would be faster. It's been 10 years, why is this still so goddamn difficult? [18:05] alt-f2. xrandr -s 1440x900 -- that's how I do it. I only use one monitor, though. [18:36] !find qatomicpointer.h [18:36] File qatomicpointer.h found in qt4-doc-html [18:37] qt4-doc-html? That's odd. [18:37] !find qatomicpointer [18:37] File qatomicpointer found in qt4-doc-html === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === porncake is now known as beefcake === catweazle_ is now known as catweazle === amblin_ is now known as amblin === macd_ is now known as macd === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG