| __mikem | actually after looking at the screenshot for SharpChocolate, its starting to grow on me | 00:01 |
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| __mikem | well how am I supposed to get this theme installed without him? | 00:03 |
| xanax` | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid | 00:03 |
| xanax` | interesting top of window decoration.. | 00:04 |
| __mikem | that ones actually not bad | 00:04 |
| * xanax` agrees | 00:04 | |
| * __mikem wishes compiz worked in vmware | 00:07 | |
| * xanax` uses virtualbox, not vmware. | 00:35 | |
| __mikem | vmware fusion actually performs much better than virtualbox | 00:37 |
| xanax` | you have a mac ? | 00:38 |
| __mikem | yes | 00:39 |
| xanax` | enabling full 3D support to OS emulators is going to be a long task | 00:41 |
| __mikem | I have a feeling its doable with current technology | 00:41 |
| * xanax` is longing to test gdm-face-browser once it gets released | 00:46 | |
| __mikem | zerwas: why did you leave me hanging? :( | 00:46 |
| zerwas | __mikem, sorry | 00:47 |
| __mikem | its alright | 00:47 |
| zerwas | __mikem, did you got it working? :) | 00:47 |
| __mikem | I only got as far as adding those two lines to the source | 00:48 |
| __mikem | you never told me how to get the theme | 00:48 |
| zerwas | nice! almost done now. open system -> administration -> synaptic now. | 00:50 |
| __mikem | okay | 00:50 |
| zerwas | now the upper left button "reload" (or something like that) | 00:50 |
| __mikem | reload was correct sir | 00:51 |
| __mikem | okay, now what | 00:51 |
| darkmatter | xanax`: the new gdm should go a long way to improving the efficiency of user switching among others. I really like the direction the devs are moving in | 00:51 |
| zerwas | __mikem, good. now (according to this page https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive) press "Search", enter "human" and click on "human-theme" to install it. do these steps for "gtk2-engines-murrine" and "ubuntu-artwork" too. Click on "Apply" now. You are done. | 00:53 |
| xanax` | the new gdm ? you mean.. gdm 2 or .. ? | 00:53 |
| darkmatter | the current recode. it was originally scheduled for 2.22 but was unfinished, and was thus deferred | 00:54 |
| * xanax` is searching for new features of the latest version of gdm | 00:55 | |
| darkmatter | xanax`: it's the version that foresight and fedora use.. I'll grab a link | 00:55 |
| darkmatter | xanax`: here ya go, complete with screenies http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=478 | 00:57 |
| __mikem | zerwas: well I notice that there is some difference, but I still think you could do more | 00:57 |
| xanax` | cool | 00:57 |
| zerwas | __mikem, me? | 00:57 |
| zerwas | __mikem, do you have it activated? | 00:58 |
| __mikem | yes, I am using the newhuman theme right now | 00:58 |
| zerwas | __mikem, me needed to use it for a couple of days to begin to like it ... | 00:59 |
| __mikem | zerwas: it still doesn't live up to the standards of OSX and vista | 01:00 |
| __mikem | its good but just not good enough in my oppinion | 01:00 |
| zerwas | __mikem, agree. | 01:00 |
| zerwas | __mikem, help cimi, he could really need a helping hand :> | 01:00 |
| __mikem | zerwas: I did make some changes to the gelitan theme | 01:01 |
| __mikem | but graphic design is not my strong suit | 01:01 |
| xanax` | i think i'll have to test this version of gdm first before having a clear opinion.. these screenshots and comments aren't enough for a teaser.. imo | 01:01 |
| zerwas | __mikem, i don't think working on gtk theme engines has soo much to do with graphic design. especially when it is known what it could/should look like | 01:02 |
| __mikem | it'd be an interesting challange | 01:02 |
| xanax` | bbl | 01:04 |
| darkmatter | xanax`: if you want to test it you could always run a vm of sulfur (fedora 9) or install it on an extra partition. fedora already uses that version | 01:05 |
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| pwnguin | where does kwii live? | 03:49 |
| zerwas | do you want to hug him? | 03:52 |
| pwnguin | well | 03:52 |
| zerwas | kwii? http://www.kwiisblog.com/d/ | 03:53 |
| zerwas | ;-) | 03:53 |
| zerwas | oops looks like he is also german | 03:53 |
| xanax` | hello | 08:51 |
| psyke83 | hi | 15:41 |
| J-_ | Someone might know the answer to my question(s). In gnome-appearance-settings, I go into customize a theme, but GTK themes have a question mark over the theme picture(or preview) and some themes change, and some don't. How can I fix this? | 21:24 |
| zerwas | J-_, install the engine? | 22:21 |
| kwwii | zerwas: good answer :-) | 22:48 |
| kwwii | zerwas: btw, I am not german ;-) | 22:48 |
| zerwas | kwwii, :) oh so i was on the wrong blog | 22:48 |
| pwnguin | kwwii: nuts | 22:48 |
| pwnguin | i was hoping i could send someone over to the one dudes house and help him set up an LP project for his theme | 22:49 |
| kwwii | I do speak german though | 22:49 |
| kwwii | pwnguin: I am sure that I can help set up an LP project | 22:50 |
| pwnguin | kwwii: the kim guy seems anxious about it | 22:50 |
| zerwas | kwwii, oh okay, so you moved to germany? | 22:50 |
| kwwii | yes, almost 13 years ago | 22:51 |
| pwnguin | i suggested on the ML that he set one up so that people like mike can share changes but he seemed to prefer his blog to host it | 22:51 |
| kwwii | I guess that makes me germarican | 22:51 |
| kwwii | pwnguin: I just caught up on emails today, I'll send Kim an email offering help | 22:52 |
| pwnguin | k | 22:52 |
| kwwii | I spent most of the day working on a good idea for a generic web browser icon | 22:53 |
| pwnguin | uh oh | 22:53 |
| pwnguin | why? | 22:53 |
| kwwii | it is for our mobile solutions group | 22:54 |
| pwnguin | so not firefox | 22:54 |
| kwwii | can't really say more than that, contracts and all | 22:55 |
| kwwii | but no worries, ubuntu will still have firefox | 22:55 |
| kwwii | no iceweasel for us (thank god) | 22:55 |
| pwnguin | the other day i came across them threatening branding over whos libnss we linked to | 22:56 |
| pwnguin | we now link firefox to their own libnss and friends | 22:57 |
| pwnguin | when people say they're a memory hog you can now agree via that point ;) | 22:57 |
| kwwii | firefox(mozilla) seems to have very strict rules because of contracts that they have signed | 22:59 |
| kwwii | makes things really nasty | 22:59 |
| kwwii | apparently if you change *anything* in firefox without having them review it you are not allowed to call it firefox | 23:00 |
| pwnguin | that part i know about | 23:00 |
| pwnguin | but not the part where calling your changes firefox puts THEM in violation of contracts | 23:00 |
| pwnguin | i dont even know how that works | 23:00 |
| kwwii | and they apparently have contracts with companies which prevent them from even allowing small/intelligent changes in some cases | 23:01 |
| pwnguin | iceweasel begins to sound appealing | 23:01 |
| kwwii | I guess it is more the worry of law suits than the actual thing, but when you get as big as them that kind of stuff comes up | 23:01 |
| kwwii | the idea of iceweasel is not bad but the name is simply stupid | 23:01 |
| kwwii | it is like a 10 year old child thought of it | 23:02 |
| pwnguin | worse than "hardy heron"? | 23:02 |
| kwwii | lol | 23:02 |
| kwwii | I cannot comment on that or it will put my job at risk | 23:02 |
| kwwii | :p | 23:02 |
| pwnguin | hhaha | 23:02 |
| zerwas | hey it will get even better with intrepid ibex | 23:02 |
| pwnguin | you could just refer to it as 8.04 in all communications | 23:02 |
| kwwii | but then nobody would know what I am talking about :p | 23:04 |
| kwwii | maybe I should though | 23:04 |
| kwwii | I am not a big fan of the names | 23:04 |
| kwwii | although it does offer a good incentive for art direction | 23:05 |
| pwnguin | its supposed to be a development code name anyways | 23:05 |
| kwwii | I am somewhat worried about always having to use an animal pic | 23:05 |
| pwnguin | which we've done once | 23:05 |
| pwnguin | in the entire history of code names | 23:05 |
| kwwii | sure, but if we do it twice it is almost like saying we are always going to do it | 23:06 |
| pwnguin | of course, its also the most wildly successfull background we have ;) | 23:07 |
| kwwii | and the ibex pics all remind me of heavy metal / satanism | 23:07 |
| kwwii | :p | 23:07 |
| pwnguin | excellent | 23:07 |
| kwwii | in the end we will probably use something like that again | 23:07 |
| pwnguin | more proof we dont need a satanic edition | 23:07 |
| zerwas | ha ha... but there is already a satanic ubutu edition | 23:07 |
| kwwii | but I would really hesitate to do it three time | 23:07 |
| pwnguin | anything that isnt christian is satanic, right? ;) | 23:08 |
| kwwii | lol, right | 23:08 |
| pwnguin | well, you could always use that concern as motivation this cycle or next to make something else | 23:08 |
| kwwii | my biggest problem this cycle is that I go on vacation on Aug2-23 and I have all kinds of stuff to work on first | 23:11 |
| kwwii | I've been working on a time zone map for the installer which is not based on funky arrows pointing to cities | 23:11 |
| kwwii | but the file is so big that my 10" thinkpad core duo 1.8Ghz with 1GB of RAM simply makes it impossible to work on | 23:12 |
| kwwii | I plug into my 23" monitor so I an at least see parts of it closer but I simply need a faster machine | 23:13 |
| kwwii | *click* (wait a minute), *click* (wait a minute), repeat | 23:13 |
| psyke83 | kwwii, using gimp? I feel dirty to say this, but Photoshop would work a lot better with large images due to the caching | 23:14 |
| psyke83 | AFAIK, the CS2 tryout should work with WINE, you may want to try it | 23:14 |
| kwwii | psyke83: nope, with inkscape | 23:15 |
| psyke83 | ah, k | 23:15 |
| kwwii | psyke83: yeah, from what I have heard CS2 works in wine...been a while since I used adobe stuff though | 23:15 |
| kwwii | it would probably handle the file better though | 23:15 |
| kwwii | it refreshes the screen in a much more efficient method than inkscape (I had a long discussion about that) | 23:16 |
| kwwii | it is nice to work at a company with two of the inkscape maintainers :-) | 23:16 |
| psyke83 | ;) | 23:17 |
| kwwii | I've been running Ted's private branch and it has a couple of nifty extras | 23:17 |
| kwwii | rgba support for all the dialogue windows | 23:17 |
| kwwii | and such | 23:17 |
| psyke83 | kwwii, are you keeping rgba enabled in the themes for release, by the way? | 23:18 |
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| kwwii | psyke83: no, i am going to turn it off again | 23:21 |
| kwwii | although until now we have not had any complaints | 23:21 |
| kwwii | at least none that I am aware of | 23:21 |
| kwwii | I am still somewhat worried about being responsible for the packaging | 23:21 |
| kwwii | :D | 23:21 |
| kwwii | oh well, time for sleep | 23:23 |
| kwwii | night all | 23:23 |
| zerwas | ye, good night | 23:25 |
| psyke83 | nite | 23:27 |
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