[00:01] <__mikem> actually after looking at the screenshot for SharpChocolate, its starting to grow on me [00:03] <__mikem> well how am I supposed to get this theme installed without him? [00:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid [00:04] interesting top of window decoration.. [00:04] <__mikem> that ones actually not bad [00:04] * xanax` agrees [00:07] * __mikem wishes compiz worked in vmware [00:35] * xanax` uses virtualbox, not vmware. [00:37] <__mikem> vmware fusion actually performs much better than virtualbox [00:38] you have a mac ? [00:39] <__mikem> yes [00:41] enabling full 3D support to OS emulators is going to be a long task [00:41] <__mikem> I have a feeling its doable with current technology [00:46] * xanax` is longing to test gdm-face-browser once it gets released [00:46] <__mikem> zerwas: why did you leave me hanging? :( [00:47] __mikem, sorry [00:47] <__mikem> its alright [00:47] __mikem, did you got it working? :) [00:48] <__mikem> I only got as far as adding those two lines to the source [00:48] <__mikem> you never told me how to get the theme [00:50] nice! almost done now. open system -> administration -> synaptic now. [00:50] <__mikem> okay [00:50] now the upper left button "reload" (or something like that) [00:51] <__mikem> reload was correct sir [00:51] <__mikem> okay, now what [00:51] xanax`: the new gdm should go a long way to improving the efficiency of user switching among others. I really like the direction the devs are moving in [00:53] __mikem, good. now (according to this page https://launchpad.net/~kwwii/+archive) press "Search", enter "human" and click on "human-theme" to install it. do these steps for "gtk2-engines-murrine" and "ubuntu-artwork" too. Click on "Apply" now. You are done. [00:53] the new gdm ? you mean.. gdm 2 or .. ? [00:54] the current recode. it was originally scheduled for 2.22 but was unfinished, and was thus deferred [00:55] * xanax` is searching for new features of the latest version of gdm [00:55] xanax`: it's the version that foresight and fedora use.. I'll grab a link [00:57] xanax`: here ya go, complete with screenies http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=478 [00:57] <__mikem> zerwas: well I notice that there is some difference, but I still think you could do more [00:57] cool [00:57] __mikem, me? [00:58] __mikem, do you have it activated? [00:58] <__mikem> yes, I am using the newhuman theme right now [00:59] __mikem, me needed to use it for a couple of days to begin to like it ... [01:00] <__mikem> zerwas: it still doesn't live up to the standards of OSX and vista [01:00] <__mikem> its good but just not good enough in my oppinion [01:00] __mikem, agree. [01:00] __mikem, help cimi, he could really need a helping hand :> [01:01] <__mikem> zerwas: I did make some changes to the gelitan theme [01:01] <__mikem> but graphic design is not my strong suit [01:01] i think i'll have to test this version of gdm first before having a clear opinion.. these screenshots and comments aren't enough for a teaser.. imo [01:02] __mikem, i don't think working on gtk theme engines has soo much to do with graphic design. especially when it is known what it could/should look like [01:02] <__mikem> it'd be an interesting challange [01:04] bbl [01:05] xanax`: if you want to test it you could always run a vm of sulfur (fedora 9) or install it on an extra partition. fedora already uses that version === zerwas_ is now known as zerwas [03:49] where does kwii live? [03:52] do you want to hug him? [03:52] well [03:53] kwii? http://www.kwiisblog.com/d/ [03:53] ;-) [03:53] oops looks like he is also german [08:51] hello [15:41] hi [21:24] Someone might know the answer to my question(s). In gnome-appearance-settings, I go into customize a theme, but GTK themes have a question mark over the theme picture(or preview) and some themes change, and some don't. How can I fix this? [22:21] J-_, install the engine? [22:48] zerwas: good answer :-) [22:48] zerwas: btw, I am not german ;-) [22:48] kwwii, :) oh so i was on the wrong blog [22:48] kwwii: nuts [22:49] i was hoping i could send someone over to the one dudes house and help him set up an LP project for his theme [22:49] I do speak german though [22:50] pwnguin: I am sure that I can help set up an LP project [22:50] kwwii: the kim guy seems anxious about it [22:50] kwwii, oh okay, so you moved to germany? [22:51] yes, almost 13 years ago [22:51] i suggested on the ML that he set one up so that people like mike can share changes but he seemed to prefer his blog to host it [22:51] I guess that makes me germarican [22:52] pwnguin: I just caught up on emails today, I'll send Kim an email offering help [22:52] k [22:53] I spent most of the day working on a good idea for a generic web browser icon [22:53] uh oh [22:53] why? [22:54] it is for our mobile solutions group [22:54] so not firefox [22:55] can't really say more than that, contracts and all [22:55] but no worries, ubuntu will still have firefox [22:55] no iceweasel for us (thank god) [22:56] the other day i came across them threatening branding over whos libnss we linked to [22:57] we now link firefox to their own libnss and friends [22:57] when people say they're a memory hog you can now agree via that point ;) [22:59] firefox(mozilla) seems to have very strict rules because of contracts that they have signed [22:59] makes things really nasty [23:00] apparently if you change *anything* in firefox without having them review it you are not allowed to call it firefox [23:00] that part i know about [23:00] but not the part where calling your changes firefox puts THEM in violation of contracts [23:00] i dont even know how that works [23:01] and they apparently have contracts with companies which prevent them from even allowing small/intelligent changes in some cases [23:01] iceweasel begins to sound appealing [23:01] I guess it is more the worry of law suits than the actual thing, but when you get as big as them that kind of stuff comes up [23:01] the idea of iceweasel is not bad but the name is simply stupid [23:02] it is like a 10 year old child thought of it [23:02] worse than "hardy heron"? [23:02] lol [23:02] I cannot comment on that or it will put my job at risk [23:02] :p [23:02] hhaha [23:02] hey it will get even better with intrepid ibex [23:02] you could just refer to it as 8.04 in all communications [23:04] but then nobody would know what I am talking about :p [23:04] maybe I should though [23:04] I am not a big fan of the names [23:05] although it does offer a good incentive for art direction [23:05] its supposed to be a development code name anyways [23:05] I am somewhat worried about always having to use an animal pic [23:05] which we've done once [23:05] in the entire history of code names [23:06] sure, but if we do it twice it is almost like saying we are always going to do it [23:07] of course, its also the most wildly successfull background we have ;) [23:07] and the ibex pics all remind me of heavy metal / satanism [23:07] :p [23:07] excellent [23:07] in the end we will probably use something like that again [23:07] more proof we dont need a satanic edition [23:07] ha ha... but there is already a satanic ubutu edition [23:07] but I would really hesitate to do it three time [23:08] anything that isnt christian is satanic, right? ;) [23:08] lol, right [23:08] well, you could always use that concern as motivation this cycle or next to make something else [23:11] my biggest problem this cycle is that I go on vacation on Aug2-23 and I have all kinds of stuff to work on first [23:11] I've been working on a time zone map for the installer which is not based on funky arrows pointing to cities [23:12] but the file is so big that my 10" thinkpad core duo 1.8Ghz with 1GB of RAM simply makes it impossible to work on [23:13] I plug into my 23" monitor so I an at least see parts of it closer but I simply need a faster machine [23:13] *click* (wait a minute), *click* (wait a minute), repeat [23:14] kwwii, using gimp? I feel dirty to say this, but Photoshop would work a lot better with large images due to the caching [23:14] AFAIK, the CS2 tryout should work with WINE, you may want to try it [23:15] psyke83: nope, with inkscape [23:15] ah, k [23:15] psyke83: yeah, from what I have heard CS2 works in wine...been a while since I used adobe stuff though [23:15] it would probably handle the file better though [23:16] it refreshes the screen in a much more efficient method than inkscape (I had a long discussion about that) [23:16] it is nice to work at a company with two of the inkscape maintainers :-) [23:17] ;) [23:17] I've been running Ted's private branch and it has a couple of nifty extras [23:17] rgba support for all the dialogue windows [23:17] and such [23:18] kwwii, are you keeping rgba enabled in the themes for release, by the way? === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [23:21] psyke83: no, i am going to turn it off again [23:21] although until now we have not had any complaints [23:21] at least none that I am aware of [23:21] I am still somewhat worried about being responsible for the packaging [23:21] :D [23:23] oh well, time for sleep [23:23] night all [23:25] ye, good night [23:27] nite === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG