=== asac_ is now known as asac [09:06] Hello, I noticed that there are new linux-image-2.6.24-20* & linux-restricted-modules-common packages for Hardy, yet linux-image-generic is still at version 2.6.24.19.21, is that correct ? [12:49] zul: hi there [12:49] hey ivoks [13:23] Hello, I noticed that there are new linux-image-2.6.24-20* & linux-restricted-modules-common packages for Hardy, yet linux-image-generic is still at version 2.6.24.19.21, is that correct ? [13:27] it is [13:28] so I can upgrade the linux-restricted-modules-common without expecting any problems ? [13:29] wait for the meta package [13:29] the linux-restricted-modules-common new version is 2.6.24-20 [13:29] ok, thanks [15:14] hi BenC , do you want to keep 686 setting? k6-2/3 are only 586 and usually fast enough too [15:14] like the hardy kernel, intrepid is 686 [15:15] Kano: 586 will probably work still [15:19] BenC: current kernel definitely does not boot on k6-2 [15:19] due to: CONFIG_M686=y [15:22] before it was CONFIG_M586=y [15:35] is cogito available in hardy? i dont see it in apt :-/ [15:52] Hi [15:53] I'm compiling my own kernel using make-kpkg - just extracted linux-source.tar.bz2; copied /boot/config-*server .config and run make-kpkg kernel-image [15:53] this results in a 180MB linux-image*.deb [15:53] why is this so large? [15:58] bboschman: Please don't you use the Debian way to build Ubuntu kernel: it is completely unsupported. The Ubuntu way ("fakeroot debian/rules binary-server") should be works great. [15:59] abogani, but I'm not sure how to make config changes the ubuntu way [16:06] <_ruben> anyone know why im seeing only 4gb of ram on a system which has 6gb? .. this is what i get in dmesg: [16:06] <_ruben> [ 40.008864] Memory: 3993236k/6291456k available (2295k kernel code, 135080k reserved, 1238k data, 308k init) [16:06] <_ruben> its a dual 1st gen opteron running 64bits gutsy gibbon [16:10] maybe wrong bios settings? [16:11] <_ruben> post shows 6gigs [16:11] <_ruben> and it does detect it, but cant use it somehow [16:12] _ruben: what kernel are you using ? [16:13] <_ruben> Linux vn-vm03 2.6.22-15-server #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 19:20:50 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:13] can I just overwrite debian/config/i386/config.server with a Full .config file? [16:14] mkrufky: cogito is gone, use plain git [16:14] pblumbing disappears and porcelaine of git itslef gets good! [16:14] bboschman, configs are combined config and config.server (in your case) you might want to empty one and place everything else into the other [16:15] bboschman: FYI, "the Ubuntu way" is described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile [16:16] <_ruben> most 4gb related stuff i see on google is 32bits related .. not much 64bits stuff there [16:16] Blinny, I know that it is described there, but not how the config files are defined (or even a own branch is set) [16:17] I'd like to build something like linux-image-*-preempt [16:18] thanks, maks_ [16:19] <_ruben> i'll try with hardy tomorrow, perhaps the hw is just too old (HP DL145 G1) to handle 4+ GB properly .. gotta go now [16:20] does config.server override options from config? [16:23] bboschman, AFAIK it is cat'ed together so normally it would by name sorting... [16:51] let's see ... :) [17:48] zul: did you see the note on the kernel team mailing list regarding Xen: "Lates XEN Kernel do not come up" [17:48] rtg: yeah its something to do with his raid [17:49] we didnt make any changes to the xen bits [17:49] zul: perhaps you could respond to him. [17:49] rtg: sure [18:56] <_ruben> lets see if upgrading to hardy fixes the 4g/6g prob [19:24] <_ruben> will see in the morning afterall .. box doesnt come up after reboot ;) [19:43] _ruben: what 4g/6g issue do you mean? [19:55] I need to compile 2.6.24-19 AND 2.6.26-4.10 with acpi debugging AND tracing to track a known issue on Dell Latitude d800 and so laptops. This issue occurs in both kernels, I am certain. I am familiar with how to do this with a vanilla kernel, but I want to confirm what the most useful/correct way to do this for this Ubuntu-specific build. I would love to help finally nail down this problem and thus contribute to the improvement of Ubuntu, [19:57] RAdams, have you already looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile? [20:10] RAdams: if it occurs on vanilla kernel too, best bet is to start there [20:11] smb_tp_: yes. Would using the steps under "Alternate Build Method: The Old-Fashioned Debian Way" yield a good enough kernel/debugging to help trace this issue? The only way I know how to enable acpi debugging and tracing is with make menuconfig, which I apparently don't get the opportunity to do using the first method [20:12] benc: that would be more helpful? I can do that. But won't I have to obtain/rebuild drivers for hardware? what other changes can I expect I'll need to make to get a workable system for testing? It doesn't have to have every feature, just enough to replicate the problem [20:12] benc: I am not certain that the problem exists in vanilla, so the first thing I would have to do is verify that it does :o [20:13] RAdams: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config [20:13] Also, passing acpi=off stops the problem from happening, so it's something with /proc/acpi as it's implemented into the ubuntu kernels [20:13] RAdams: in a vanilla kernel, and start from there [20:13] benc: will do [20:16] RAdams, Otherwise, if you want to use the git source, you can do. For test purposes you could put you could put your config file to debian /config//config and empty the config.generic there. [20:17] which vanilla kernel should I use? http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/patch-2.6.26.bz2? any need to build http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/patch-2.6.24.bz2 as well, or is the current sufficient, so the problem gets fixed upstream (if that's where the problem is) [20:18] I have 0 git experience, btw, so if it's best to go that route, I'll have to read up on git I suppose o.O [20:21] RAdams, You would need t know only one command "git-clone http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git " [20:21] smb_tp_: that will get me the current devel version of the kernel? [20:21] RAdams, Just don't ask for "mrproper" He is too clean [20:23] RAdams, Replace hardy with intrepid and you get the current intrepid tree. If you mean Linus tree with devel version, that would be a different url [20:23] oic [20:23] so the hardy one will get me the current hardy kernel in use? [20:23] .24-19? [20:24] RAdams, Current Hardy: yes. 24-19 no. 24-20 is somewhere rolling [20:24] oh [20:24] ok ty === smb_tp_ is now known as smb_tp === chuck_ is now known as zul === macd_ is now known as macd [22:24] hi [22:26] I am trying to patch the server kernel. I am confused, however. If I get linux-source-2.6.24 and copy the config from /boot/config-2.6.24-19-server to the source, the source doesn't build because arch/xen/Makefile doesn't exist. that same file is also neither in the linux-headers packages for 2.6.24-19 or 2.6.24-19-server. Is that a bug? [22:27] Obviously the server-kernel is patched with xen, but how do I build that kernel? where does the patch come from? [23:02] netzwurm, You should not need that. I am not sure what you did. I just tried a "fakeroot debian/rules binary-server" and a similar out-of-tree build. both seem to run happily [23:04] smb: oh. that's in the debian source package? What I am asking about is whether there is a way to build the server-kernel from within the linux-source-2.6.24/ dir. [23:05] smb: you took the apt-get source linux-image-2.6.24-19-server i take it? [23:05] netzwurm, yes [23:05] smb: hm. how do i add my custom patches to that then? [23:05] oh. i just patch the source. [23:05] whatever. [23:05] thanks. [23:06] netzwurm, I would guess so. :) np [23:07] smb: although that's still complicated with modifying the config. [23:07] i mean, i am trying to find the patchset for the server-kernel now. [23:08] netzwurm, Practically you could replace the debian/config//config{,.server} file(s) [23:09] smb: right. [23:10] smb, Will you need to distribute a patchset later or would just getting a kernel package compiled be enough [23:14] netzwurm, Anyways, I am not sure this gets repeated too often but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile should be of help... [23:25] smb: what i'd really like would be a configured kernel-source with all patches. I don't really want to build the kernel, but i need the build-source. [23:25] smb: because the headers aren't enough. [23:30] netzwurm, the linux-headers-server package is not enough? maybe the missing headers from lum... but sorry I have to go. bbiab